Re: How to save/export a VM? -

2014-07-25 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA


On 07/25/14 17:33, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 07/25/2014 01:50 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:

it took time but I've got my XFCE4 desktop configured as I want it, no
fuss no muss!


Wouldn't it have been easier just to copy across $HOME if that's all 
you needed?


Possibly if that could be put in the VM. It would also be simpler to 
make an ordinary Centos7 install if I really needed it. It's just an 
exercise to see what can be done the provided Virtual Machine Manager. 
It's there and I will install Fedora 21 beta in it eventually.


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Re: How to save/export a VM? -

2014-07-25 Thread Joe Zeff

On 07/25/2014 01:50 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:

it took time but I've got my XFCE4 desktop configured as I want it, no
fuss no muss!


Wouldn't it have been easier just to copy across $HOME if that's all you 
needed?

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Re: How to save/export a VM? -

2014-07-25 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA


On 07/25/14 15:43, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 15:22:02 -0400
Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:


Is this the image file you're talking about?



Yep. The name just depends on which version of libvirt
created it. Very old ones tend to be named .img, with
newer versions it gives a different suffix depending on
what kind of file it created.



Sure enough, that worked, I have a duplicate of Centos7 in the VM on 
this box10 in the VM in box7 now. I think I did as you suggested but in 
the end I told it to import the Centos7.qcow2 file, it churned slowly 
and gradually produced an exact copy, hopefully it will all work on a 
reboot ...


That file was huge, I didn't check the size and just sent it to my NFS 
server before sending it to box7, 10+ gigs, it took time but I've got my 
XFCE4 desktop configured as I want it, no fuss no muss!


Another hurdle overcome, thanks to all,

Bob



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Cannot add a hard disk during fedora installation

2014-07-25 Thread Hsiang-Chi Kuo
Hi,


I am trying to install Fedora 20 on my new purchase computer- DELL xps 8700 
(i7-4790, 16GB DDR3, 2TB 7200 RPM SATA hard drive. NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750Ti 2GB 
DDR5). Computer was pre-installed with windows 8. I partitioned HD such that 
the unallocated HD space is 1.5TB, there is also a SSD with 30GB of unallocated 
space. I choose secure Boost off in BIOS to install FEDORA from DVD. However, 
the installation destination cannot find any available HD. There was message 
showing  "No disk detected".


I have used DELL's online and offline diagnosis tool to check the computer and 
no error was reported. I've also tried Fedora 15 and Fedora 19 but have no luck 
to install successfully. Anyone can comment on this and give me a hint?


Thanks,


Gary
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Re: How to save/export a VM? -

2014-07-25 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 15:22:02 -0400
Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:

> Is this the image file you're talking about?
> 
> 

Yep. The name just depends on which version of libvirt
created it. Very old ones tend to be named .img, with
newer versions it gives a different suffix depending on
what kind of file it created.
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Re: How to save/export a VM? -

2014-07-25 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA


On 07/25/14 11:52, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 10:15:32 -0400
Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:


Now that I have a working Centos7 VM how do I save it and transfer it ti
a second computer?

virsh dumpxml centos7 > centos7.xml

Replace centos7 with whatever your virtual machine name actually is.

That gives you an xml file which will contain one or more lines of the
form:



Copy the xml file to the new machine, copy the disk image file it
mentions to the new machine as well, then on the new machine run

virsh define centos7.xml

If you want to change the name of the image file, you can do
that, but be sure to change the xml to reflect the new name
before running the virsh define.

P.S. The virtual machine should not be running when you do this.


Is this the image file you're talking about?



I don't see anything xxx.img.

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Re: PWM fan speed too high

2014-07-25 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 25.07.2014, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote: 

> What an effort in time and disk space just to change a few bytes of code!

It takes no time when you already have a complete kernel tree :-) 
You can just apply the patch, type "make" and your're 
done within a minute.

Otherwise, if you plan to recompile a few times more, setting up
ccache could be a good idea.

https://ccache.samba.org/

> But I finally succeeded in building and installing a (reversely) patched
> kernel package: kernel-3.15.6-200.fan.fc20.x86_64, with the hopefully
> expected result.

Well done!

Unfortunately, I have no nvidia graphics to test your work. But I'm
shure the ones with problems here in this thread will give you
some feedback.

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Re: PWM fan speed too high

2014-07-25 Thread Klaus-Peter Schrage

Am 25.07.2014 10:04, schrieb Heinz Diehl:

On 24.07.2014, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote:


But I can refrain from trying a kernel recompile which I last
did a decade or so ago (although, as far as I can remember, this is not such
a kind of rocket science as one might guess from the recent thread on "new
kernel & rebooting").


This would be a perfect chance to update your kernel skills :-)


As there was nothing else to do due to very bad weather conditions this 
afternoon, I dived into a kernel compile, following the guidelines in

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Building_a_custom_kernel
What an effort in time and disk space just to change a few bytes of code!
But I finally succeeded in building and installing a (reversely) patched 
kernel package: kernel-3.15.6-200.fan.fc20.x86_64, with the hopefully 
expected result.

Thanks
Klaus

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Re: How to save/export a VM? -

2014-07-25 Thread poma

On 25.07.2014 17:47, poma wrote:

On 25.07.2014 17:31, poma wrote:

On 25.07.2014 16:59, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:


On 07/25/14 10:52, poma wrote:

On 25.07.2014 16:35, Rabin Yasharzadehe wrote:

If it is a kvm vm and you are using cow file as the disks back-end,
you can
just copy the files to the new machine,
and copy the machine xml from /etc/libvirt/qemu/vm.xml to the new
machine
and use `virsh define vm.xml` to recreate it


OK, 'QEMU *QCOW* Image' files.
And what about 'QEMU *QED* Image' files?





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libvirt fan club





I am being overwhelmed with new terms, e.g. 'QEMU *QCOW.*

All I really want is the name of a file I can save, or is that not possible?

Bob



https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7/html/Virtualization_Deployment_and_Administration_Guide/sect-KVM_live_migration-Migrating_with_virt_manager.html
19.5. Migrating with virt-manager

Unable to migrate guest: unsupported configuration: Domain requires KVM, but it 
is not available. Check that virtualization is enabled in the host BIOS, and 
host configuration is setup to load the kvm modules. :)


kvm fan club




BTW Bob, what are this "save" & "export"? :)
'Clone' or/and 'Migrate' in libvirt terminology?


bios fan club




And the rest of the well made "virt" docs is here,
https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7/#_Virtualization
Good luck with the libvirt. ;)


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Re: How to save/export a VM? -

2014-07-25 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 10:15:32 -0400
Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:

> Now that I have a working Centos7 VM how do I save it and transfer it ti 
> a second computer?

   virsh dumpxml centos7 > centos7.xml

Replace centos7 with whatever your virtual machine name actually is.

That gives you an xml file which will contain one or more lines of the
form:

   

Copy the xml file to the new machine, copy the disk image file it
mentions to the new machine as well, then on the new machine run

   virsh define centos7.xml

If you want to change the name of the image file, you can do
that, but be sure to change the xml to reflect the new name
before running the virsh define.

P.S. The virtual machine should not be running when you do this.
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Re: How to save/export a VM? -

2014-07-25 Thread poma

On 25.07.2014 17:31, poma wrote:

On 25.07.2014 16:59, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:


On 07/25/14 10:52, poma wrote:

On 25.07.2014 16:35, Rabin Yasharzadehe wrote:

If it is a kvm vm and you are using cow file as the disks back-end,
you can
just copy the files to the new machine,
and copy the machine xml from /etc/libvirt/qemu/vm.xml to the new
machine
and use `virsh define vm.xml` to recreate it


OK, 'QEMU *QCOW* Image' files.
And what about 'QEMU *QED* Image' files?





*-- Rabin*


libvirt fan club





I am being overwhelmed with new terms, e.g. 'QEMU *QCOW.*

All I really want is the name of a file I can save, or is that not possible?

Bob



https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7/html/Virtualization_Deployment_and_Administration_Guide/sect-KVM_live_migration-Migrating_with_virt_manager.html
19.5. Migrating with virt-manager

Unable to migrate guest: unsupported configuration: Domain requires KVM, but it 
is not available. Check that virtualization is enabled in the host BIOS, and 
host configuration is setup to load the kvm modules. :)


kvm fan club




BTW Bob, what are this "save" & "export"? :)
'Clone' or/and 'Migrate' in libvirt terminology?


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Re: How to save/export a VM? -

2014-07-25 Thread poma

On 25.07.2014 16:59, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:


On 07/25/14 10:52, poma wrote:

On 25.07.2014 16:35, Rabin Yasharzadehe wrote:

If it is a kvm vm and you are using cow file as the disks back-end,
you can
just copy the files to the new machine,
and copy the machine xml from /etc/libvirt/qemu/vm.xml to the new
machine
and use `virsh define vm.xml` to recreate it


OK, 'QEMU *QCOW* Image' files.
And what about 'QEMU *QED* Image' files?





*-- Rabin*


libvirt fan club





I am being overwhelmed with new terms, e.g. 'QEMU *QCOW.*

All I really want is the name of a file I can save, or is that not possible?

Bob



https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7/html/Virtualization_Deployment_and_Administration_Guide/sect-KVM_live_migration-Migrating_with_virt_manager.html
19.5. Migrating with virt-manager

Unable to migrate guest: unsupported configuration: Domain requires KVM, but it 
is not available. Check that virtualization is enabled in the host BIOS, and 
host configuration is setup to load the kvm modules. :)


kvm fan club


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Re: How to save/export a VM? -

2014-07-25 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA


On 07/25/14 10:52, poma wrote:

On 25.07.2014 16:35, Rabin Yasharzadehe wrote:
If it is a kvm vm and you are using cow file as the disks back-end, 
you can

just copy the files to the new machine,
and copy the machine xml from /etc/libvirt/qemu/vm.xml to the new 
machine

and use `virsh define vm.xml` to recreate it


OK, 'QEMU *QCOW* Image' files.
And what about 'QEMU *QED* Image' files?





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libvirt fan club





I am being overwhelmed with new terms, e.g. 'QEMU *QCOW.*

All I really want is the name of a file I can save, or is that not possible?

Bob

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Re: How to save/export a VM? -

2014-07-25 Thread poma

On 25.07.2014 16:35, Rabin Yasharzadehe wrote:

If it is a kvm vm and you are using cow file as the disks back-end, you can
just copy the files to the new machine,
and copy the machine xml from /etc/libvirt/qemu/vm.xml to the new machine
and use `virsh define vm.xml` to recreate it


OK, 'QEMU *QCOW* Image' files.
And what about 'QEMU *QED* Image' files?





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On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 5:15 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA <
bobgood...@wildblue.net> wrote:



Now that I have a working Centos7 VM how do I save it and transfer it ti a
second computer?

I can't seem to find this, perhaps I don't know the right terms?

Bob

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Re: How to save/export a VM? -

2014-07-25 Thread Rabin Yasharzadehe
If it is a kvm vm and you are using cow file as the disks back-end, you can
just copy the files to the new machine,
and copy the machine xml from /etc/libvirt/qemu/vm.xml to the new machine
and use `virsh define vm.xml` to recreate it



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On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 5:15 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA <
bobgood...@wildblue.net> wrote:

>
> Now that I have a working Centos7 VM how do I save it and transfer it ti a
> second computer?
>
> I can't seem to find this, perhaps I don't know the right terms?
>
> Bob
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How to save/export a VM? -

2014-07-25 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA


Now that I have a working Centos7 VM how do I save it and transfer it ti 
a second computer?


I can't seem to find this, perhaps I don't know the right terms?

Bob

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Re: CPU fan running at full speed

2014-07-25 Thread poma

On 24.07.2014 20:15, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:

On 07/24/14 15:52, poma wrote:
...

"drm/nouveau/therm: let the vbios decide on the automatic fan management
mode"
https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git/commit/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/core/subdev/therm/fan.c?h=linux-3.15.y&id=0e994d6

This should fix automatic fan management on fermi cards who do not
have 0x46 entries in the thermal table.
On my nve6, the blob sets the default linear range from 40°C to 100°C
but my nvcf's default values are 40°C to 85°C.
Let's keep 85 as a default for everyone.


I really must say that I do not understand why this change was made.
Obviously it breaks the fan management for some (me included). Did it
solve it for others? And what is 0x46 entries?


You can directly ask the developers, right.
Developers, developers, developers! :)

$ grep -R -w 0x46 drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/
drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau_connector.c:
nv_device(drm->device)->chipset >= 0x46)
drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/core/engine/device/nv40.c:  case 0x46:
drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/core/engine/graph/ctxnv40.c:case 0x46:
drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/core/engine/graph/ctxnv40.c:case 0x46:
drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/core/engine/graph/ctxnv40.c:if (device->chipset == 
0x46 || device->chipset == 0x47 ||
drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/core/engine/graph/ctxnv40.c:if 
(device->chipset == 0x46)
drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/core/engine/graph/ctxnv40.c:case 0x46:
drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/core/engine/graph/ctxnv40.c:case 0x46:
drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/core/engine/graph/ctxnv40.c:case 0x46:
drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/core/engine/graph/ctxnv40.c:case 0x46:
drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/core/engine/graph/nv40.c:   case 0x46:
drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/core/engine/graph/nv40.c:   case 0x46: /* G72 */
drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/core/engine/graph/nv40.c:   case 0x46:
drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/core/subdev/therm/nv40.c:   case 0x46:
drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/core/subdev/fb/nv46.c:  .base.base.handle = 
NV_SUBDEV(FB, 0x46),
drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/core/subdev/i2c/anx9805.c:  while 
(nv_rdi2cr(mast, port->addr, 0x46) & 0x10) {
drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/core/subdev/vm/nvc0.c:  0x28, 0x29, 0xff, 0xff, 0xff, 
0xff, 0x46, 0xff, /* 0x40 */
drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/core/subdev/vm/nvc0.c:  0xff, 0x46, 0x46, 0x46, 0x46, 
0xff, 0xff, 0xff, /* 0x50 */
drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/core/subdev/bios/pll.c:  * maxN2 (0x46) and 10 
* maxM2 (0x4), so set maxN2 to 0x28 and
drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/core/subdev/bios/therm.c:   case 0x46:
drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/core/include/subdev/bios/conn.h:
DCB_CONNECTOR_DP = 0x46,
drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/dispnv04/nvreg.h:#  define NV_CIO_CRE_RCR   
0x46
drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/dispnv04/tvmodesnv17.c: 
0x21, 0xf6, 0x94, 0x46, 0x0, 0x0, 0xb, 0x18,

Perhaps this one is related to this topic? :)
https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/core/subdev/bios/therm.c#n199



This is my card (a Quadro 2000):

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF106GL [Quadro
2000] (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
Subsystem: NVIDIA Corporation Device 084a
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 45
Memory at f400 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32M]
Memory at e000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
Memory at e800 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M]
I/O ports at e000 [size=128]
Expansion ROM at f600 [disabled] [size=512K]
Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 3
Capabilities: [68] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
Capabilities: [78] Express Endpoint, MSI 00
Capabilities: [b4] Vendor Specific Information: Len=14 
Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel
Capabilities: [128] Power Budgeting 
Capabilities: [600] Vendor Specific Information: ID=0001 Rev=1 Len=024 

Kernel driver in use: nouveau
Kernel modules: nouveau

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Re: PWM fan speed too high

2014-07-25 Thread poma


Disclaimer: This is not an official source rpm, use at your own risk!

# yum install mock deco

- sha256sum
  http://goo.gl/mwJBue
- kernel-3.15.6-500.fc20.src.rpm
  http://goo.gl/gi0Rio

$ cd /path/to/downloads/

$ deco kernel-3.15.6-500.fc20.src.rpm

$ cat sha256sum
8a1673411403a1de8ffa1343f24db6096423d9304bc8a6a678c36bbc95a978a6  
kernel-3.15.6-500.fc20.src.rpm
159a3a4759163794d6b7182b79e6461b67f002d0c3a16331e3eb1acf7cf1737d  
kernel-3.15.6-500.fc20.src/kernel.spec
5df8dca6800a93d00362a857fe08ab9178a82c25b6173b27a0706157abe5c764  
kernel-3.15.6-500.fc20.src/revert-git0e994d6-drm_nouveau_therm-let-the-vbios-decide-on-the-automatic-fan-management-mode.patch

$ sha256sum -c sha256sum

$ mock --verbose --root=fedora-20-x86_64 --with=baseonly --without=debuginfo 
--rebuild /path/to/kernel-3.15.6-500.fc20.src.rpm

$ ls -1 /var/lib/mock/fedora-20-x86_64/result/
build.log
kernel-3.15.6-500.fc20.src.rpm
kernel-3.15.6-500.fc20.x86_64.rpm
kernel-devel-3.15.6-500.fc20.x86_64.rpm
kernel-headers-3.15.6-500.fc20.x86_64.rpm
kernel-modules-extra-3.15.6-500.fc20.x86_64.rpm
kernel-tools-3.15.6-500.fc20.x86_64.rpm
kernel-tools-libs-3.15.6-500.fc20.x86_64.rpm
kernel-tools-libs-devel-3.15.6-500.fc20.x86_64.rpm
perf-3.15.6-500.fc20.x86_64.rpm
python-perf-3.15.6-500.fc20.x86_64.rpm
root.log
state.log

# yum install $(ls 
/var/lib/mock/fedora-20-x86_64/result/*3.15.6-500.fc20.x86_64.rpm)


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Re: PWM fan speed too high

2014-07-25 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 24.07.2014, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote: 

> But I can refrain from trying a kernel recompile which I last
> did a decade or so ago (although, as far as I can remember, this is not such
> a kind of rocket science as one might guess from the recent thread on "new
> kernel & rebooting").

This would be a perfect chance to update your kernel skills :-)
The offending patch (as suggested here; I don't have any nvidia
graphics and thus can't verify the effect) reverts cleanly from latest
-stable ("cat patch.diff -p1 -R")

http://tinyurl.com/mz4vsr8

I guess the Fedora kernel .src.rpm compiles just fine doing a
"rpmbuild -bb" on the .spec file. So this should not be of any
problem.

> So I'll wait until a clever patch finds its way into the (Fedora-)kernel.
> Meanwhile I stick to the 3.14-kernel.

According to git, 3.14 has been released 30 mar 2014. The offending
patch has been committed 26 mar 2014..

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