Re: fedora 20, on my system, actually works only to line command.

[Angelo Moreschini]

OK

thank  you

On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 1:50 AM, Marko Vojinovic  wrote:

> On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 16:18:10 +0200
> Angelo Moreschini  wrote:
> >
> > I made all you suggested :
> >yum localinstall --nogpgcheck 
> >yum install kmod-nvidia
> >shutdown ...
> >
> > Nothing was change however .
> >
> > is there anything that I can still try ?
>
> Send me again the latest version of /var/log/Xorg.0.log file. If X is
> failing even with the nvidia driver, then something else might be the
> cause of the problem. But I cannot be sure without looking into that
> file.
>
> Best, :-)
> Marko
>
>
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Re: Network problem. Is this a fedora issue?

[Tim]

On Wed, 2014-12-10 at 15:06 +, Bill Oliver wrote:
> Over the past few weeks, basically since I moved to Fedora21, there
> are extended periods where I simply cannot get to web pages using
> http.  Things will work fine for hours, and then stop for hours, and
> then come back up.
>  
> During that time, however, *other* connectivity using the wireless
> network is fine.

A shot in the dark:  On other occasions where strange network "does and
doesn't" work symptoms occur has, sometimes, been a MTU issue.

You might want to read up about it, and have a tweak.

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Re: Fedora 21 64bit ram usage

[kc8...@ohioham.com]

If I'm reading this right under mem I see 1.9 for gnome shell and virt I have 
1947724 . And for evolution calen men is 1.0 and virt is 1568376 and up top I 
see kib mem 80472 free is 679272 used is 546188 dose that help

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On 12/10/2014 01:52 PM, kc8...@ohioham.com wrote:
> I installed 21 yesterday and I seen that I was using 1.5 g of ram. I
> didn't have anything running but the os it self I have a Dell I7 3.9 g
> and 8 g of ram . Has anyone else ham this problem and no how to fix it .
> When I opened my mail and open Firefox  I go up to 3.6g of ram . All the
> fans pick up to pull the heat off like they should 
> 
> Sent from my HTC
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> 
> 
what does top, sorted by memory, show? top, then SHIFT-M

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Re: pdftk

[Paul Allen Newell]

On 12/10/2014 08:02 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:

On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 19:49:55 -0800 Paul Allen Newell  wrote:


On 12/10/2014 04:07 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:

On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 18:55:10 -0500 Matthew Miller  
wrote:


On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 05:51:59PM -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote:

It would be good if someone who could pick it up w/o the issues that
Fedora had would do it -- pdftk was a good package and will be
missed. Given that Fedora isn't going to continue, I understand it
is a bit useless to make the comment here. But hopefully senior folk
in Fedora can give a push for pdftk to be "somewhere" within the
Linux world that Fedora users can pick up (and also Centos).

We'd love to have it in Fedora. The itext5 author is really the person
to talk to here.

Who would that be? Can this go to RPMfusion?

That's up to the RPMfusion people. But really, that's a lot less
ideal than having the software licensed in a truly open way so everyone
can benefit.

Completely agree with this sentiment! But we can not do much here, I guess, 
except hope!

Ranjan



Okay, I will hope (and in a positive manner as opposed to sarcastic) ...
but part of that will be in the spirit of my original use of the word
"hopeful" that someone with a "voice that matters" can give a push to
either itext5 author or rpmfusion group that it would be a good thing.

Thanks for giving this thread a "let's hope" flavor rather than a "ain't
gonna happen so forget it" brick wall

Well, yes it is a fond hope because as I said, it is a fond hope. But I can't 
make it happen because I do not know the issues that this entails.

Ranjan



I probably know less of the issues involved and understand that I am 
walking a fine line to avoid sounding like a Pollyanna



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Re: pdftk

[Ranjan Maitra]

On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 19:49:55 -0800 Paul Allen Newell  wrote:

> 
> On 12/10/2014 04:07 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> > On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 18:55:10 -0500 Matthew Miller 
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 05:51:59PM -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> > It would be good if someone who could pick it up w/o the issues that
> > Fedora had would do it -- pdftk was a good package and will be
> > missed. Given that Fedora isn't going to continue, I understand it
> > is a bit useless to make the comment here. But hopefully senior folk
> > in Fedora can give a push for pdftk to be "somewhere" within the
> > Linux world that Fedora users can pick up (and also Centos).
>  We'd love to have it in Fedora. The itext5 author is really the person
>  to talk to here.
> >>> Who would that be? Can this go to RPMfusion?
> >> That's up to the RPMfusion people. But really, that's a lot less
> >> ideal than having the software licensed in a truly open way so everyone
> >> can benefit.
> > Completely agree with this sentiment! But we can not do much here, I guess, 
> > except hope!
> >
> > Ranjan
> >
> >
> 
> Okay, I will hope (and in a positive manner as opposed to sarcastic) ... 
> but part of that will be in the spirit of my original use of the word 
> "hopeful" that someone with a "voice that matters" can give a push to 
> either itext5 author or rpmfusion group that it would be a good thing.
> 
> Thanks for giving this thread a "let's hope" flavor rather than a "ain't 
> gonna happen so forget it" brick wall

Well, yes it is a fond hope because as I said, it is a fond hope. But I can't 
make it happen because I do not know the issues that this entails.

Ranjan


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Re: why does distro-sync find packages to downgrade after fedup

[Andre Robatino]

Ranjan Maitra  inbox.com> writes:

> On a system not fed up from fedup -- not the one that is hosed for now --
I do the following:
> 
> sudo yum --releasever=21 distro-sync
> 
> Dependencies Resolved
> 
>

>  Package   Arch  VersionRepository   
 Size
>

> Downgrading:
>  flac  x86_641.3.0-5.fc21   fedora   
571 k
>  flac-libs x86_641.3.0-5.fc21   fedora   
178 k
>  icedtea-web   x86_641.5.1-1.fc21   fedora   
1.3 M
>  jogl2 x86_642.0.2-1.fc21   fedora   
4.0 M
>  libRmath  x86_643.1.1-7.fc21   fedora   
125 k
>  libRmath-develx86_643.1.1-7.fc21   fedora   
 31 k
>  sqlitex86_643.8.7-1.fc21   fedora   
449 k
>  sqlite-devel  x86_643.8.7-1.fc21   fedora   
114 k
> 
> Transaction Summary
>

> Downgrade  8 Packages
> 
> Total download size: 6.7 M
> Is this ok [y/d/N]: Exiting on user command
> 
> Why does this happen?

Before I clean installed F21, I had flac-libs-1.3.0-3.fc20,
icedtea-web-1.5.1-0.fc20, and sqlite-3.8.7-1.fc20 on F20. You must have had
higher versions than these in order to be downgraded. Which versions do you
have, and which repos did they come from?


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Re: pdftk

[Paul Allen Newell]

On 12/10/2014 04:07 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:

On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 18:55:10 -0500 Matthew Miller  
wrote:


On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 05:51:59PM -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote:

It would be good if someone who could pick it up w/o the issues that
Fedora had would do it -- pdftk was a good package and will be
missed. Given that Fedora isn't going to continue, I understand it
is a bit useless to make the comment here. But hopefully senior folk
in Fedora can give a push for pdftk to be "somewhere" within the
Linux world that Fedora users can pick up (and also Centos).

We'd love to have it in Fedora. The itext5 author is really the person
to talk to here.

Who would that be? Can this go to RPMfusion?

That's up to the RPMfusion people. But really, that's a lot less
ideal than having the software licensed in a truly open way so everyone
can benefit.

Completely agree with this sentiment! But we can not do much here, I guess, 
except hope!

Ranjan




Okay, I will hope (and in a positive manner as opposed to sarcastic) ... 
but part of that will be in the spirit of my original use of the word 
"hopeful" that someone with a "voice that matters" can give a push to 
either itext5 author or rpmfusion group that it would be a good thing.


Thanks for giving this thread a "let's hope" flavor rather than a "ain't 
gonna happen so forget it" brick wall


Paul

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Re: Raid 1 and Anaconda -

[Chris Murphy]

On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA <
bobgood...@wildblue.net> wrote:

>
>>  All of that looks ok except "Device Type" is always grayed out and I
> never get to select raid.


I'm going to guess this is because you didn't use mdadm -C to create the
raid array in advance. Just making partitions isn't enough. Technically
type code 0xFD is deprecated, because it only applies to mdadm metadata
version 0.9 meant for kernel raid autodetect, but I don't think that's
related to your problem.

Option A: Delete all of the partitions you previously created by selecting
them, then clicking the minus (-) button. Then create new "mount points"
using the plus (+) button, setting mount point and size in the resulting
dialog, then on the right side UI change Device Type to RAID.



> I made /boot ext2 and the others ext4 and /dev/sda seems happy with that
> but no matter what I do entries to /dev/sdb are not accepted, and as I say
> I can't select raid and raid 1.
>

This does sound like the installer has no idea that the sda and sda
partitions are mdadm members.

Option B: Post the result from:
$ sudo parted /dev/sd[ab] u s p
$ mdadm -E /dev/sda[123]
$ mdadm -E /dev/sdb[123]

I'm assuming 3 partitions, if there's four then use [1234].

For what it's worth I think you're better off with /boot being formatted
ext4, and if for some reason you don't want journaling you can disable it
post-install with 'sudo tune2fs -o ^has_journal '


> I set the disks up with fdisk but have not created any files on the
> assumption that the installer should do that, perhaps I am wrong?


Nope, either the installer creates the partitions+mdadm metadata (i.e.
creates the raid set), or it will use an existing already created one. It
won't just use already made partitions, it has no information on how to
assemble them without mdadm metadata already in place. So if you didn't use
mdadm -C to create each raid set you wanted, you can omit option B above.

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Re: pdftk

[jd1008]

On 12/10/2014 04:31 PM, Doug wrote:

On 12/10/2014 07:07 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 18:55:10 -0500 Matthew Miller 
 wrote:



On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 05:51:59PM -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote:

It would be good if someone who could pick it up w/o the issues that
Fedora had would do it -- pdftk was a good package and will be
missed. Given that Fedora isn't going to continue, I understand it
is a bit useless to make the comment here. But hopefully senior folk
in Fedora can give a push for pdftk to be "somewhere" within the
Linux world that Fedora users can pick up (and also Centos).
We'd love to have it in Fedora. The itext5 author is really the 
person

to talk to here.

Who would that be? Can this go to RPMfusion?


That's up to the RPMfusion people. But really, that's a lot less
ideal than having the software licensed in a truly open way so everyone
can benefit.


Completely agree with this sentiment! But we can not do much here, I 
guess, except hope!


Ranjan



I'm running pclos-kde, and I had not heard of pdftk, but my system has 
it available in
the repos, so I looked up the description. It seems to be a very 
useful, competent tool
with a lot of features, so I really don't understand why Fedora would 
drop it. However,
it is available from PDF labs in an rpm version, so you should be able 
to download it

and install in Fedora. Here's the url:

https://www.pdflabs.com/docs/install-pdftk-on-redhat-or-centos/

(I don't know if it has dependencies that you no longer have in 
addition to not

have pdftk.)

--doug


I downloaded the el6 64 bit version, and ran rpmrebuild to rebrand it as
fc21 and tried to install it.
Below are the reasons why fedora dropped this package:

# yum -y install pdftk-2.02-1.fc21.x86_64.rpm
Loaded plugins: langpacks
Examining pdftk-2.02-1.fc21.x86_64.rpm: pdftk-2.02-1.fc21.x86_64
Marking pdftk-2.02-1.fc21.x86_64.rpm to be installed
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package pdftk.x86_64 0:2.02-1.fc21 will be installed
--> Processing Dependency: libgcj for package: pdftk-2.02-1.fc21.x86_64
--> Processing Dependency: libgcj.so.10()(64bit) for package: 
pdftk-2.02-1.fc21.x86_64

--> Finished Dependency Resolution
Error: Package: pdftk-2.02-1.fc21.x86_64 (/pdftk-2.02-1.fc21.x86_64)
   Requires: libgcj.so.10()(64bit)
Error: Package: pdftk-2.02-1.fc21.x86_64 (/pdftk-2.02-1.fc21.x86_64)
   Requires: libgcj
 You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem


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why does distro-sync find packages to downgrade after fedup

[Ranjan Maitra]

On a system not fed up from fedup -- not the one that is hosed for now -- I do 
the following:

sudo yum --releasever=21 distro-sync

Dependencies Resolved


 Package   Arch  VersionRepository Size

Downgrading:
 flac  x86_641.3.0-5.fc21   fedora571 k
 flac-libs x86_641.3.0-5.fc21   fedora178 k
 icedtea-web   x86_641.5.1-1.fc21   fedora1.3 M
 jogl2 x86_642.0.2-1.fc21   fedora4.0 M
 libRmath  x86_643.1.1-7.fc21   fedora125 k
 libRmath-develx86_643.1.1-7.fc21   fedora 31 k
 sqlitex86_643.8.7-1.fc21   fedora449 k
 sqlite-devel  x86_643.8.7-1.fc21   fedora114 k

Transaction Summary

Downgrade  8 Packages

Total download size: 6.7 M
Is this ok [y/d/N]: Exiting on user command

Why does this happen?

Many thanks,
Ranjan


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Re: pdftk

[Ranjan Maitra]

> I'm running pclos-kde, and I had not heard of pdftk, but my system has it 
> available in
> the repos, so I looked up the description. It seems to be a very useful, 
> competent tool
> with a lot of features, so I really don't understand why Fedora would drop 
> it. However,
> it is available from PDF labs in an rpm version, so you should be able to 
> download it
> and install in Fedora. Here's the url:
> 
> https://www.pdflabs.com/docs/install-pdftk-on-redhat-or-centos/
> 
> (I don't know if it has dependencies that you no longer have in addition to 
> not
> have pdftk.)

The problem is that libgcj does not exist on F21. So, we can not run pdftk 
unless we go back to F20. 

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Re: pdftk

[Doug]

On 12/10/2014 07:07 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:

On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 18:55:10 -0500 Matthew Miller  
wrote:


On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 05:51:59PM -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote:

It would be good if someone who could pick it up w/o the issues that
Fedora had would do it -- pdftk was a good package and will be
missed. Given that Fedora isn't going to continue, I understand it
is a bit useless to make the comment here. But hopefully senior folk
in Fedora can give a push for pdftk to be "somewhere" within the
Linux world that Fedora users can pick up (and also Centos).

We'd love to have it in Fedora. The itext5 author is really the person
to talk to here.

Who would that be? Can this go to RPMfusion?


That's up to the RPMfusion people. But really, that's a lot less
ideal than having the software licensed in a truly open way so everyone
can benefit.


Completely agree with this sentiment! But we can not do much here, I guess, 
except hope!

Ranjan



I'm running pclos-kde, and I had not heard of pdftk, but my system has it 
available in
the repos, so I looked up the description. It seems to be a very useful, 
competent tool
with a lot of features, so I really don't understand why Fedora would drop it. 
However,
it is available from PDF labs in an rpm version, so you should be able to 
download it
and install in Fedora. Here's the url:

https://www.pdflabs.com/docs/install-pdftk-on-redhat-or-centos/

(I don't know if it has dependencies that you no longer have in addition to not
have pdftk.)

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Re: pdftk

[Ranjan Maitra]

On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 18:55:10 -0500 Matthew Miller  
wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 05:51:59PM -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> > > > It would be good if someone who could pick it up w/o the issues that
> > > > Fedora had would do it -- pdftk was a good package and will be
> > > > missed. Given that Fedora isn't going to continue, I understand it
> > > > is a bit useless to make the comment here. But hopefully senior folk
> > > > in Fedora can give a push for pdftk to be "somewhere" within the
> > > > Linux world that Fedora users can pick up (and also Centos).
> > > We'd love to have it in Fedora. The itext5 author is really the person
> > > to talk to here.
> > Who would that be? Can this go to RPMfusion?
> 
> That's up to the RPMfusion people. But really, that's a lot less
> ideal than having the software licensed in a truly open way so everyone
> can benefit.

Completely agree with this sentiment! But we can not do much here, I guess, 
except hope!

Ranjan


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Re: pdftk

[Matthew Miller]

On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 05:51:59PM -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> > > It would be good if someone who could pick it up w/o the issues that
> > > Fedora had would do it -- pdftk was a good package and will be
> > > missed. Given that Fedora isn't going to continue, I understand it
> > > is a bit useless to make the comment here. But hopefully senior folk
> > > in Fedora can give a push for pdftk to be "somewhere" within the
> > > Linux world that Fedora users can pick up (and also Centos).
> > We'd love to have it in Fedora. The itext5 author is really the person
> > to talk to here.
> Who would that be? Can this go to RPMfusion?

That's up to the RPMfusion people. But really, that's a lot less
ideal than having the software licensed in a truly open way so everyone
can benefit.


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Re: pdftk

[Ranjan Maitra]

On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 14:04:12 -0500 Matthew Miller  
wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 12:28:57AM -0800, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
> > It would be good if someone who could pick it up w/o the issues that
> > Fedora had would do it -- pdftk was a good package and will be
> > missed. Given that Fedora isn't going to continue, I understand it
> > is a bit useless to make the comment here. But hopefully senior folk
> > in Fedora can give a push for pdftk to be "somewhere" within the
> > Linux world that Fedora users can pick up (and also Centos).
> 
> We'd love to have it in Fedora. The itext5 author is really the person
> to talk to here.

Who would that be? Can this go to RPMfusion?

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Re: fedora 20, on my system, actually works only to line command.

[Marko Vojinovic]

On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 16:18:10 +0200
Angelo Moreschini  wrote:
> 
> I made all you suggested :
>yum localinstall --nogpgcheck 
>yum install kmod-nvidia
>shutdown ...
> 
> Nothing was change however .
> 
> is there anything that I can still try ?

Send me again the latest version of /var/log/Xorg.0.log file. If X is
failing even with the nvidia driver, then something else might be the
cause of the problem. But I cannot be sure without looking into that
file.

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Re: Raid 1 and Anaconda -

[Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA]

On 12/10/14 14:15, Chris Murphy wrote:

On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 7:41 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
 wrote:

I want to install Fedora 21 Server.

I have two "750G" drives, both formatted for raid, type "fd." boot 2G, /
30G, home/ whatever the remainder. I did not create a file system, assuming
that would be created by the installer?

Anyway, Raid is not being offered as an option.

Starting at the hub (main menu of installer):
1. Installation Destination
2. From list of "local standard disks" you need to select at least 2+
devices, i.e. they must have check marks

Did that.

3. Choose "I will configure partitioning', click Done which will take
you to Manual Partitioning

Did that also.

4. On the left hand side of the UI you'll see an Unknown section you
need to click on that to expose existing md block devices you created.

"Unknown" I had never clicked on that so that was a stumbling point for me.

You can either delete these and have the installer recreate them
itself, or fill in the blanks on the right. You need to set a
mountpoint for each, and a filesystem. Device Type will be RAID.

For whatever reason Device Type is not accepting entry?


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All of that looks ok except "Device Type" is always grayed out and I 
never get to select raid. I made /boot ext2 and the others ext4 and 
/dev/sda seems happy with that but no matter what I do entries to 
/dev/sdb are not accepted, and as I say I can't select raid and raid 1.


I set the disks up with fdisk but have not created any files on the 
assumption that the installer should do that, perhaps I am wrong?


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Re: fedup - luks encrypted system

[Chris Murphy]

On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 7:20 AM, Michael Morgan  wrote:

> I ran into a hang like BZ 1160079 while upgrading from F20 on a similar
> setup yesterday. I didn't have any issues with disk space but the reboot
> did get stuck on the LUKS container when trying to unmount sysroot.
> Power cycling at that point was a bit frightening but the system came
> back up without issue.


Best to try 'reboot -f' which should still cleanly unmount filesystems. And
if that doesn't work then sysrq + s, u, b (in order). If that doesn't work,
OK power cycle.


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Re: how to get rid of failed fedup

[Ranjan Maitra]

On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 14:54:44 -0600 Isaac Cortés González 
 wrote:

> 2014-12-10 11:49 GMT-06:00 Ranjan Maitra :
> > So, as you can see from my other post, one of my fedups failed: how do I 
> > get rid of everything that it did (and the boot option at startup)?
> 
> If you have a /home partition and a / one, you just can to format the
> root one and make a fresh installation. Not before making a kickstart
> file(http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Kickstart), maybe?

Thanks! Actually, I was wondering about not doing a full reinstall. I just 
wanted to see if it is possible to get rid of this fedup stuff that failed.

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Re: Fedora 21 64bit ram usage

[Steven Stern]

On 12/10/2014 01:52 PM, kc8...@ohioham.com wrote:
> I installed 21 yesterday and I seen that I was using 1.5 g of ram. I
> didn't have anything running but the os it self I have a Dell I7 3.9 g
> and 8 g of ram . Has anyone else ham this problem and no how to fix it .
> When I opened my mail and open Firefox  I go up to 3.6g of ram . All the
> fans pick up to pull the heat off like they should 
> 
> Sent from my HTC
> 
> 
> 
what does top, sorted by memory, show? top, then SHIFT-M

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libiguanaIR?

[Tom Horsley]

I'm installing gazillions of rpms to get everything on my
fedora 21 partition I had on fedora 20, and the massive
dnf install is printing this every time anyone runs ldconfig:

/sbin/ldconfig: /lib64/libiguanaIR.so.0.3 is not a symbolic link

Is a package busted somewhere?
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Re: how to get rid of failed fedup

[Isaac Cortés González]

2014-12-10 11:49 GMT-06:00 Ranjan Maitra :
> So, as you can see from my other post, one of my fedups failed: how do I get 
> rid of everything that it did (and the boot option at startup)?

If you have a /home partition and a / one, you just can to format the
root one and make a fresh installation. Not before making a kickstart
file(http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Kickstart), maybe?
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Fedora 21 64bit ram usage

[kc8...@ohioham.com]

I installed 21 yesterday and I seen that I was using 1.5 g of ram. I didn't 
have anything running but the os it self I have a Dell I7 3.9 g and 8 g of ram 
. Has anyone else ham this problem and no how to fix it . When I opened my mail 
and open Firefox  I go up to 3.6g of ram . All the fans pick up to pull the 
heat off like they should 

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Re: Raid 1 and Anaconda -

[Chris Murphy]

On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 7:41 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
 wrote:
> I want to install Fedora 21 Server.
>
> I have two "750G" drives, both formatted for raid, type "fd." boot 2G, /
> 30G, home/ whatever the remainder. I did not create a file system, assuming
> that would be created by the installer?
>
> Anyway, Raid is not being offered as an option.

Starting at the hub (main menu of installer):
1. Installation Destination
2. From list of "local standard disks" you need to select at least 2+
devices, i.e. they must have check marks
3. Choose "I will configure partitioning', click Done which will take
you to Manual Partitioning
4. On the left hand side of the UI you'll see an Unknown section you
need to click on that to expose existing md block devices you created.
You can either delete these and have the installer recreate them
itself, or fill in the blanks on the right. You need to set a
mountpoint for each, and a filesystem. Device Type will be RAID.

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Re: pdftk

[Matthew Miller]

On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 12:28:57AM -0800, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
> It would be good if someone who could pick it up w/o the issues that
> Fedora had would do it -- pdftk was a good package and will be
> missed. Given that Fedora isn't going to continue, I understand it
> is a bit useless to make the comment here. But hopefully senior folk
> in Fedora can give a push for pdftk to be "somewhere" within the
> Linux world that Fedora users can pick up (and also Centos).

We'd love to have it in Fedora. The itext5 author is really the person
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Re: core_pattern

[Kevin Fenzi]

On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 13:39:57 -0500
Tom Horsley  wrote:

> On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 13:24:32 -0500
> Tom Horsley wrote:
> 
> > > ln -sf  /usr/lib/sysctl.d/50-coredump.conf /dev/null  
> > 
> > Thanks!
> 
> Though come to think of it, shouldn't /dev/null be the 1st arg? :-).

Indeed it should. ;) 

Sorry about that. 

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Re: 21 beta -> 21

[Andras Simon]

2014-12-10 18:21 GMT+01:00, Bill Oliver :

>> Transaction check error:
>>  file /usr/lib/firewalld/services from install of
>> firewalld-0.3.12-1.fc21.noarch conflicts with file from package
>> firewalld-filesystem-0.3.13-1.fc21.noarch
>>  file /usr/lib/firewalld from install of
>> firewalld-0.3.12-1.fc21.noarch conflicts with file from package
>> firewalld-filesystem-0.3.13-1.fc21.noarch
>>  file /usr/lib/firewalld/icmptypes from install of
>> firewalld-0.3.12-1.fc21.noarch conflicts with file from package
>> firewalld-filesystem-0.3.13-1.fc21.noarch
>>  file /usr/lib/firewalld/zones from install of
>> firewalld-0.3.12-1.fc21.noarch conflicts with file from package
>> firewalld-filesystem-0.3.13-1.fc21.noarch
>>
>> No harm done, but I wonder what to try next.
>>
>> Andras
>>
>
> Bummer.  I don't remember what my firewalld was in the beta, but I had
> been updating regularly so I assume I downgraded from 3.13 to 3.12.  In
> any case, I'm now at 3.12.  I know that "hit 'yes' and pray" is probably
> not the best admin strategy, but when it comes to these upgrades that's
> pretty much how I roll, and it usually works out.

After some tinkering I am now at 3.12, too.

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Re: core_pattern

[Tom H]

On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Kevin Fenzi  wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 12:31:50 -0500
> Tom Horsley  wrote:
>
>> I see the systemd fungus has grown over the
>> /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern file now.
>>
>> Can I make it stop changing it?
>
> ln -sf /usr/lib/sysctl.d/50-coredump.conf /dev/null

Shouldn't be "ln -s /dev/null /etc/sysctl.d/50-coredump.conf" for it
not to be overridden on systemd upgrades?
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Re: core_pattern

[Tom Horsley]

On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 13:24:32 -0500
Tom Horsley wrote:

> > ln -sf  /usr/lib/sysctl.d/50-coredump.conf /dev/null  
> 
> Thanks!

Though come to think of it, shouldn't /dev/null be the 1st arg? :-).
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Re: core_pattern

[Tom Horsley]

On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 10:55:56 -0700
Kevin Fenzi wrote:

> Abrt also overrides it to handle crashes (and has for a
> long time)

Yea, but disabling the abrt* services made core files "normal"
previously, now it hangs around even with them disabled :-);

> > Can I make it stop changing it?
> 
> ln -sf  /usr/lib/sysctl.d/50-coredump.conf /dev/null

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Re: core_pattern

[Tom H]

On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Tom Horsley  wrote:
> I see the systemd fungus has grown over the
> /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern file now.
>
> Can I make it stop changing it?
>
> Or do I have to make an rc.local script to reset it
> to just plain old 'core'?

From rawhide so I'm not sure whether it's in F20, which, AFAIK, has systemd 216:

COREDUMP.CONF(5)
 coredump.conf

COREDUMP.CONF(5)

NAME
   coredump.conf - Coredump storage configuration file

SYNOPSIS
   /etc/systemd/coredump.conf

DESCRIPTION
   This file configures the behaviour of systemd-coredump, a
handler for core dumps invoked by the kernel.

OPTIONS
   All options are configured in the "[Coredump]" section:

   Storage=
   Controls where to store cores. One of "none", "external",
"journal", and "both". When "none", the coredumps will be logged but
not stored permanently. When "external" (the default), cores will be
stored in
   /var/lib/systemd/coredump. When "journal", cores will be
stored in the journal and rotated following normal journal rotation
patterns. When "both", cores will be stored in both locations.

   When cores are stored in the journal, they might be
compressed following journal compression settings, see
journald.conf(5). When cores are stored externally, they will be
compressed by default, see below.

   Compress=
   Controls the type of compression for external storage.
Takes a boolean argument, defaults to "yes".

   ProcessSizeMax=
   The maximum size in bytes of a core which will be
processed. Coredumps exceeding this size will be logged, but the
backtrace will not be generated and the core will not be stored.

   ExternalSizeMax=, JournalSizeMax=
   The maximum (uncompressed) size in bytes of a core to be saved.

   MaxUse=, KeepFree=
   Enforce limits on the disk space taken up by externally
stored coredumps.  MaxUse= makes sure that old coredumps are removed
as soon as the total disk space taken up by coredumps grows beyond
this limit (defaults to
   10% of the total disk size).  KeepFree= controls how much
disk space to keep free at least (defaults to 15% of the total disk
size). Note that the disk space used by coredumps might temporarily
exceed these limits
   while coredumps are processed. Note that old coredumps are
also removed based on time via systemd-tmpfiles(8).

SEE ALSO
   systemd-journald.service(8), coredumpctl(1), systemd-tmpfiles(8)

systemd 217


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Re: core_pattern

[Kevin Fenzi]

On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 12:31:50 -0500
Tom Horsley  wrote:

> I see the systemd fungus has grown over the
> /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern file now.

This is to allow core dumps to get handled by systemd and info to go to
the journal. Abrt also overrides it to handle crashes (and has for a
long time)

> Can I make it stop changing it?

ln -sf  /usr/lib/sysctl.d/50-coredump.conf /dev/null
 
> Or do I have to make an rc.local script to reset it
> to just plain old 'core'?

Nope, just point the system provided 50-coredump.conf to /dev/null and
sysctl will not set it on boot. 

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Re: printing broken by f20->f21 update

[Tim Waugh]

On Wed, 2014-12-10 at 11:47 -0500, Neal Becker wrote:
> Are the files in /var/spool/cups the original output from evince?

Yes, it is.

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how to get rid of failed fedup

[Ranjan Maitra]

So, as you can see from my other post, one of my fedups failed: how do I get 
rid of everything that it did (and the boot option at startup)?

Many thanks,
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Re: nf_conntrack helpers?

[Tom H]

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Tom Horsley  wrote:
>
> Should this message mean anything to an ordinary mortal?
>
>  nf_conntrack: automatic helper assignment is deprecated and it will be 
> removed soon. Use the iptables CT target to attach helpers instead.
>
> It comes out a few seconds after the boot completes on my fresh
> install of f21 workstation live image (64 bit).

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=906156

https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git/commit/?id=a9006892643a8f4e885b692de0708bcb35a7d530

https://home.regit.org/netfilter-en/secure-use-of-helpers/
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Re: Samba 4 support

[Robert Moskowitz]

On 12/10/2014 11:41 AM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote:


On Dec 9, 2014 6:44 PM, "Robert Moskowitz" > wrote:

> So what is the story?  Does Fedora work for a Samba AD?

As others have mentioned, not presently.

But if you're adventurous:
http://negativo17.org/samba-4-active-directory-with-bind-dlz-zones-dynamic-dns-updates-windows-static-rpc-2/




thanks T.C.

I have too many other things on my plate for the next 4 months.  I will 
need to monitor this, but concentrate on other important tasks for now.


Looks lime NTDomain for now...

But sure is tempting!

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core_pattern

[Tom Horsley]

I see the systemd fungus has grown over the
/proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern file now.

Can I make it stop changing it?

Or do I have to make an rc.local script to reset it
to just plain old 'core'?
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Re: Rpmfusion

[Bruno Wolff III]

On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 12:33:41 +0100,
 Michael Schwendt  wrote:

On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 12:01:37 +0200, jarmo wrote:


Seems, that RPMFUSION is not yet up to date with Fedora 21..


Due to their different development model, their Rawhide repo is the one
that targets Fedora 21. There even is a fresh -release-21 package in it
since yesterday. Whether the repo is complete any without broken deps
anywhere, I dunno.


For f21 rpmfusion seems OK (at least for what I have installed).

For f22 ffmpeg has been broken for a couple of weeks because it needs 
a rebuild for a soname bump in f22. I just rebuilt the f21 package and 
put it in my local repo. I think there are a few other packages that 
are blocked by dependencies in F22 for rpmfusion, but they aren't ones 
that I care much about.

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Re: 21 beta -> 21

[Bill Oliver]

On Wed, 10 Dec 2014, Andras Simon wrote:


2014-12-10 17:35 GMT+01:00, Bill Oliver :

On Wed, 10 Dec 2014, Andras Simon wrote:


Following suggestions in this list, I'm trying to use yum distro-sync
to update a Fedora 21 beta laptop to Fedora 21, but yum wants to
remove my running kernel (3.17.4-302.fc21.x86_64) and downgrade 87
packages. Should I go ahead with this?

Andras



I did it, and things worked out fine.  In fact, there was no Virtualbox
kernal module for my "updated" beta kernel, but there is one for my
sync'd kernel.  I'm a happy camper.

YMMV, of course.


It did, actually:

Transaction check error:
 file /usr/lib/firewalld/services from install of
firewalld-0.3.12-1.fc21.noarch conflicts with file from package
firewalld-filesystem-0.3.13-1.fc21.noarch
 file /usr/lib/firewalld from install of
firewalld-0.3.12-1.fc21.noarch conflicts with file from package
firewalld-filesystem-0.3.13-1.fc21.noarch
 file /usr/lib/firewalld/icmptypes from install of
firewalld-0.3.12-1.fc21.noarch conflicts with file from package
firewalld-filesystem-0.3.13-1.fc21.noarch
 file /usr/lib/firewalld/zones from install of
firewalld-0.3.12-1.fc21.noarch conflicts with file from package
firewalld-filesystem-0.3.13-1.fc21.noarch

No harm done, but I wonder what to try next.

Andras



Bummer.  I don't remember what my firewalld was in the beta, but I had
been updating regularly so I assume I downgraded from 3.13 to 3.12.  In
any case, I'm now at 3.12.  I know that "hit 'yes' and pray" is probably
not the best admin strategy, but when it comes to these upgrades that's
pretty much how I roll, and it usually works out.

billo

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Re: 21 beta -> 21

[Andras Simon]

2014-12-10 17:35 GMT+01:00, Bill Oliver :
> On Wed, 10 Dec 2014, Andras Simon wrote:
>
>> Following suggestions in this list, I'm trying to use yum distro-sync
>> to update a Fedora 21 beta laptop to Fedora 21, but yum wants to
>> remove my running kernel (3.17.4-302.fc21.x86_64) and downgrade 87
>> packages. Should I go ahead with this?
>>
>> Andras
>
>
> I did it, and things worked out fine.  In fact, there was no Virtualbox
> kernal module for my "updated" beta kernel, but there is one for my
> sync'd kernel.  I'm a happy camper.
>
> YMMV, of course.

It did, actually:

Transaction check error:
  file /usr/lib/firewalld/services from install of
firewalld-0.3.12-1.fc21.noarch conflicts with file from package
firewalld-filesystem-0.3.13-1.fc21.noarch
  file /usr/lib/firewalld from install of
firewalld-0.3.12-1.fc21.noarch conflicts with file from package
firewalld-filesystem-0.3.13-1.fc21.noarch
  file /usr/lib/firewalld/icmptypes from install of
firewalld-0.3.12-1.fc21.noarch conflicts with file from package
firewalld-filesystem-0.3.13-1.fc21.noarch
  file /usr/lib/firewalld/zones from install of
firewalld-0.3.12-1.fc21.noarch conflicts with file from package
firewalld-filesystem-0.3.13-1.fc21.noarch

No harm done, but I wonder what to try next.

Andras
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fedup on a vicious cycle

[Ranjan Maitra]

So I tried the stuff below. Got the magic message: reboot.

Reboot into fedup and it keeps throwing me back into grub and the same reboot 
into fedup after a while of text on the screen.

How do I get out of it?

Many thanks,
Ranjan


sudo fedup --network 21 --product=nonproduct

setting up repos...
getting boot images...
.treeinfo.signed| 2.1 kB  00:00 
setting up update...
finding updates 100% [=]
verify local files 100% [==]
testing upgrade transaction
rpm transaction 100% [=]
rpm install 100% [=]
setting up system for upgrade
Finished. Reboot to start upgrade.
Packages without updates:
  773b916a97e27d116b939250c25fd21f-7.13.0-0.x86_64
  aNu-0.1-1.fc20.x86_64
  adobe-release-x86_64-1.0-1.noarch
  aic94xx-firmware-30-6.fc20.noarch
  celt-0.11.3-1.fc20.x86_64
  emacs-common-ess-12.09-3.fc19.noarch
  emacs-ess-12.09-3.fc19.noarch
  flac-1.3.1-1.fc20.x86_64
  flac-libs-1.3.1-1.fc20.x86_64
  flash-plugin-11.2.202.425-release.x86_64
  jitsi-2.5-5065.x86_64
  libRmath-3.1.2-1.fc20.x86_64
  libRmath-devel-3.1.2-1.fc20.x86_64
  libtbb2-41_20130116-15.2.x86_64
  libtbbmalloc2-41_20130116-15.2.x86_64
  prelink-0.5.0-1.fc20.x86_64
  sqlite-3.8.7.2-1.fc20.x86_64
  sqlite-devel-3.8.7.2-1.fc20.x86_64
  sylfilter-0.8-12.2.x86_64
  thaali-0.4.1-1.fc20.x86_64
  wbar-2.3.5-1.fc20.x86_64
  xcolorsel-1.1a-30.3.x86_64
  1:anaconda-yum-plugins-1.0-10.fc20.noarch

(Note that aNu, thaali and wbar are my own-created rpms and are not the issue 
since a second laptop went through fine.)

Thanks,
Ranjan


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Re: printing broken by f20->f21 update

[Neal Becker]

Tim Waugh wrote:

> On Wed, 2014-12-10 at 10:35 -0500, Neal Becker wrote:
>> Thanks!  I found
>>  lp -o landscape -o fit-to-page xxx.pdf
>> 
>> printed just fine!
>> 
>> But printing from evince produced blank pages.  Almost blank, there are 2
>> tiny blue letters at the bottom of each page.
> 
> So now you can try to isolate why the evince print job fails by enabling
> PreserveJobFiles and examining the actual data it sent, and seeing if
> that's broken or if one of the filters breaks it.
> 
> Tim.
> */

1. First let me make clear that I am seeing this same bug on 2 different f21 
machines I've tested.

2. The files left in /var/spool/cups show the problem.  It appears almost all 
of 
the image is rendered off the page.  The tiny non-blank part I saw is the part 
that wasn't clipped off page.

Are the files in /var/spool/cups the original output from evince?

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Re: Samba 4 support

[T.C. Hollingsworth]

On Dec 9, 2014 6:44 PM, "Robert Moskowitz"  wrote:
> So what is the story?  Does Fedora work for a Samba AD?

As others have mentioned, not presently.

But if you're adventurous:
http://negativo17.org/samba-4-active-directory-with-bind-dlz-zones-dynamic-dns-updates-windows-static-rpc-2/

-T.C.
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Re: 21 beta -> 21

[Paul Cartwright]

On 12/10/2014 11:21 AM, Andras Simon wrote:
> Following suggestions in this list, I'm trying to use yum distro-sync
> to update a Fedora 21 beta laptop to Fedora 21, but yum wants to
> remove my running kernel (3.17.4-302.fc21.x86_64) and downgrade 87
> packages. Should I go ahead with this?
>
> Andras
I don't get it. I installed brand new fedora 21 beta in this partition.
I also did the yum distro-sync and it downgraded 11 packages..

Removed:
  NetworkManager-openvpn.x86_64
1:0.9.9.0-3.20141110gitda5fb9b.fc21
  NetworkManager-openvpn-gnome.x86_64
1:0.9.9.0-3.20141110gitda5fb9b.fc21  
  dnf.noarch
0:0.6.2-1.fc21
  ghostscript.x86_64
0:9.15-3.fc21 
  lohit-assamese-fonts.noarch
0:2.91.0-2.fc21  
  lohit-bengali-fonts.noarch
0:2.91.0-2.fc21   
  nfs-utils.x86_64
1:1.3.1-2.2.fc21
  scl-utils.x86_64
0:20140815-2.fc21   
  sudo.x86_64
0:1.8.11p2-1.fc21
  xen-libs.x86_64
0:4.4.1-7.fc21   
  xen-licenses.x86_64
0:4.4.1-7.fc21   

Installed:
  NetworkManager-openvpn.x86_64
1:0.9.9.0-3.git20140128.fc21   
  NetworkManager-openvpn-gnome.x86_64
1:0.9.9.0-3.git20140128.fc21 
  dnf.noarch
0:0.6.1-1.fc21
  ghostscript.x86_64
0:9.14-7.fc21 
  lohit-assamese-fonts.noarch
0:2.91.0-1.fc21  
  lohit-bengali-fonts.noarch
0:2.91.0-1.fc21   
  nfs-utils.x86_64
1:1.3.1-2.0.fc21
  scl-utils.x86_64
0:20140815-1.fc21   
  sudo.x86_64
0:1.8.8-7.fc21   
  xen-libs.x86_64
0:4.4.1-6.fc21   
  xen-licenses.x86_64 0:4.4.1-6.fc21   

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Re: 21 beta -> 21

[Bill Oliver]

On Wed, 10 Dec 2014, Andras Simon wrote:


Following suggestions in this list, I'm trying to use yum distro-sync
to update a Fedora 21 beta laptop to Fedora 21, but yum wants to
remove my running kernel (3.17.4-302.fc21.x86_64) and downgrade 87
packages. Should I go ahead with this?

Andras



I did it, and things worked out fine.  In fact, there was no Virtualbox
kernal module for my "updated" beta kernel, but there is one for my
sync'd kernel.  I'm a happy camper.

YMMV, of course.

billo
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21 beta -> 21

[Andras Simon]

Following suggestions in this list, I'm trying to use yum distro-sync
to update a Fedora 21 beta laptop to Fedora 21, but yum wants to
remove my running kernel (3.17.4-302.fc21.x86_64) and downgrade 87
packages. Should I go ahead with this?

Andras
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Re: pdftk

[Raman Gupta]

On 12/10/2014 04:23 AM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 6:37 PM, Ranjan Maitra
>  wrote:
>> What is the story with pdftk?
> 
> As pointed out by others, it used a really old Java stack that is no
> longer supported.
> 
> There is a more modern replacement called mcpdf.

Thanks for the pointer. Just took a quick look at mcpdu and it isn't
yet close to being a replacement for pdftk. For example, it does not
support named input arguments. Worth keeping an eye on though.

Regards,
Raman
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Re: printing broken by f20->f21 update

[Tim Waugh]

On Wed, 2014-12-10 at 10:35 -0500, Neal Becker wrote:
> Thanks!  I found
>  lp -o landscape -o fit-to-page xxx.pdf
> 
> printed just fine!
> 
> But printing from evince produced blank pages.  Almost blank, there are 2 
> tiny 
> blue letters at the bottom of each page.

So now you can try to isolate why the evince print job fails by enabling
PreserveJobFiles and examining the actual data it sent, and seeing if
that's broken or if one of the filters breaks it.

Tim.
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Re: printing broken by f20->f21 update

[Neal Becker]

Tim Waugh wrote:

> On Wed, 2014-12-10 at 07:10 -0500, Neal Becker wrote:
>> The problem occurs with evince and with okular, but not with adobe acroread.
>> I'm taking a wild guess that evince and okular use system libraries to
>> render, while acroread is probably self-contained, and the problem is some
>> library like cairo.
> 
> There is information about how to isolate this sort of problem on this
> page:
> 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_printing_problems#Finding_where_the_problem_lies
> 
> Perhaps you could try following that procedure and seeing what turns up?
> 
> Tim.
> */

Thanks!  I found
 lp -o landscape -o fit-to-page xxx.pdf

printed just fine!

But printing from evince produced blank pages.  Almost blank, there are 2 tiny 
blue letters at the bottom of each page.

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Re: network vs network manager wait online

[Juan Orti]

El 2014-12-10 15:43, Tom Horsley escribió:

On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 15:33:31 +0100
Juan Orti wrote:


NetworkManager-wait-online.service is disabled by default, if you
enabled it in the past, you should disable it:


This was a fresh install from scratch. I never enabled it
(but something did).


# systemctl disable NetworkManager-wait-online.service


Why doesn't this service show up in list-unit-files?


It shows up in my system. Maybe something related to the upper case 
letters?


# systemctl list-unit-files | grep -i networkmanager
dbus-org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.service enabled
NetworkManager-dispatcher.service   enabled
NetworkManager-wait-online.service  enabled
NetworkManager.service  enabled

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Network problem. Is this a fedora issue?

[Bill Oliver]

I'm trying to figure out a networking issue, and I can't tell if it is a fedora 
thing or not.  Here's the issue:

I work at a place where the wired network has very strict security.  One can go 
to very few web pages, one has very limited access to applications, every box 
has a keystroke logger, etc.  In order to accommodate folk who now rely on web 
access for their daily lives, there is *also* an essentially open wireless 
system.  Thus, if you want to come to work and browse USAToday.com on your 
break, you bring in your tablet or laptop, hook up to the wireless and go.

Frankly, I think it's a brilliant solution for some of the security issues, 
because it allows people who want access to have it -- just not on the secure 
network.

Over the past few weeks, basically since I moved to Fedora21, there are 
extended periods where I simply cannot get to web pages using http.  Things 
will work fine for hours, and then stop for hours, and then come back up.

During that time, however, *other* connectivity using the wireless network is 
fine.  So, what I've been driven to do is hook up with an offsite server I own 
using VNC, and then use the browser on that machine using vncviewer.  That, 
oddly, works fine, and bandwidth is good enough to drive a 1900x600 screen with 
minimal lag.

Calls to the IT department get the usual "We aren't noticing anything, but with the 
wireless network you are on your own.  Anyway, we don't support linux."

Is this, or something like it, anything that's been reported as a problem with 
fedora?  Frankly, my suspicion is that they are throttling http traffic -- this 
tends to happen around noon when all the secretaries are streaming their 
favorite TV shows... Polling the other staff has been inconsistent.  A few have 
said they have problems when I do, most do not.


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Re: Rpmfusion

[jarmo]

Wed, 10 Dec 2014 12:55:50 +0100
Michael Schwendt  kirjoitti:


> What error/problem do you see? Anything with their own mirror manager?
> The repo tree for '21' is available, at least:

I get no more mirrors available... And looking at

http://rpmfusion.org/Configuration

There's not yet any 21... So I'll wait, have fine working system, no
hurry..

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Re: network vs network manager wait online

[Tom Horsley]

On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 15:33:31 +0100
Juan Orti wrote:

> NetworkManager-wait-online.service is disabled by default, if you 
> enabled it in the past, you should disable it:

This was a fresh install from scratch. I never enabled it
(but something did).

> # systemctl disable NetworkManager-wait-online.service

Why doesn't this service show up in list-unit-files?
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Raid 1 and Anaconda -

[Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA]

I want to install Fedora 21 Server.

I have two "750G" drives, both formatted for raid, type "fd." boot 2G, / 
30G, home/ whatever the remainder. I did not create a file system, 
assuming that would be created by the installer?


Anyway, Raid is not being offered as an option. I've had this problem 
with SL-7 also, and know that if I proceed with the installation I will 
have everything installed on one disk without the mirrored raid, Or 
perhaps I need to use LVM rather than standard partitions?.


What am I doing wrong?

Bob.

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Re: network vs network manager wait online

[Juan Orti]

El 2014-12-10 15:17, Tom Horsley escribió:

I was trying to change from NetworkManager to network on a fresh
install of f21 workstation, and it sort of works, but the boot
hangs for a long time with a start job running for NetworkManager
Wait Online.

There doesn't seem to be any service with a name like that that I can
disable.

How do I make this stop? (Shouldn't the wait online stuff be smart
enough to recognize NetworkManager is masked and avoid waiting)?


NetworkManager-wait-online.service is disabled by default, if you 
enabled it in the past, you should disable it:


# systemctl disable NetworkManager-wait-online.service

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Re: fedup - luks encrypted system

[Michael Morgan]

I ran into a hang like BZ 1160079 while upgrading from F20 on a similar
setup yesterday. I didn't have any issues with disk space but the reboot
did get stuck on the LUKS container when trying to unmount sysroot.
Power cycling at that point was a bit frightening but the system came
back up without issue.

-Mike

On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 08:17:06PM -0700, Robin Laing wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> In the past, using fedup was a disaster due to encrypted systems.
> 
> Is this working in F21?
> 
> Don't use LVM's and partitions are encrypted using LUKS.  This includes /tmp
> swap.  /boot isn't encrypted.
> 
> Have had issues installing in the past with encrypted partitions.
> 
> Seen many bug reports about fedup and encrypted partitions.
> 
> Will be going from F19 and F20 to F21.
> 
> Robin
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Re: fedora 20, on my system, actually works only to line command.

[Angelo Moreschini]

Hi Marko,

I made all you suggested :
   yum localinstall --nogpgcheck 
   yum install kmod-nvidia
   shutdown ...

Nothing was change however .

is there anything that I can still try ?


On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 7:18 PM, Marko Vojinovic  wrote:

> On Tue, 9 Dec 2014 18:05:53 +0200
> Angelo Moreschini  wrote:
>
> > So I would pray you to explain:
> >
> >- if kmod-nvidia must be downloaded from the Internet or if it is
> >already on the  computer.
>
> The kmod-nvidia package must be downloaded from the Internet, from the
> rpmfusion repository, via yum (since it depends on other packages which
> yum will also have to download, automatically). Fedora needs to
> have a working Internet connection for yum to work.
>
> >- how can I check if RPMFusion repository is already enabled for
> > yum (and how to enable it - if necessary)
>
> You can check whether rpmfusion is enabled by typing
>
>   yum repolist
>
> and verifying if rpmfusion (free and nonfree) is in the list of
> configured repositories. If not, the instructions for enabling
> rpmfusion are given on its website,
>
>   http://rpmfusion.org/Configuration
>
> Since you only have access to the command line, I suggest that you
>
> (a) log in as root
>
> (b) copy-paste the following (or type it veeery carefully) as a single
> line (beware that your a client may do word-wrapping, type spaces
> instead of newlines):
>
> yum localinstall --nogpgcheck
> http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-$(rpm
> -E %fedora).noarch.rpm
>
> http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-$(rpm
> -E %fedora).noarch.rpm
>
> This will configure yum to use both free and nonfree rpmfusion repos.
>
> (c) type
>
>   yum install kmod-nvidia
>
> and say yes when asked to confirm.
>
> (d) type
>
>   shutdown -r now
>
> to reboot the machine.
>
> HTH, :-)
> Marko
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network vs network manager wait online

[Tom Horsley]

I was trying to change from NetworkManager to network on a fresh
install of f21 workstation, and it sort of works, but the boot
hangs for a long time with a start job running for NetworkManager
Wait Online.

There doesn't seem to be any service with a name like that that I can
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Re: Samba 4 support

[Robert Moskowitz]

On 12/10/2014 07:11 AM, James Hogarth wrote:

On 10 December 2014 at 08:38,   wrote:

Indeed,

At FOSDEM, two years ago (or is it already three) at de samba-devroom they say 
that with samba4 you could do a seamless switch from Microsoft-AD to samba4,  
and back.
All major distro's fail to do so, because of the HEIMDAL / MIT issue ...

It looks like this issue is more difficult to solve than the transition to 
system.


This is being worked on.

There are changes that have been happening on the Samba Technical list
to allow the AD functionality with MIT.


I think I am on a Samba users list, not development.  Been plowing 
through that list to find discussions to help me.  Not always so easy.


So IF I am starting out fresh.  Have no interest in interoperating with 
any MS AD servers, only Win clients.  Will what exists with the MIT 
libraries work?  Or am I asking for trouble for when they switch?



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Re: printing broken by f20->f21 update

[Tim Waugh]

On Wed, 2014-12-10 at 07:10 -0500, Neal Becker wrote:
> The problem occurs with evince and with okular, but not with adobe acroread.  
> I'm taking a wild guess that evince and okular use system libraries to 
> render, 
> while acroread is probably self-contained, and the problem is some library 
> like 
> cairo.

There is information about how to isolate this sort of problem on this
page:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_printing_problems#Finding_where_the_problem_lies

Perhaps you could try following that procedure and seeing what turns up?

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Re: Samba 4 support

[James Hogarth]

On 10 December 2014 at 08:38,   wrote:
> Indeed,
>
> At FOSDEM, two years ago (or is it already three) at de samba-devroom they 
> say that with samba4 you could do a seamless switch from Microsoft-AD to 
> samba4,  and back.
> All major distro's fail to do so, because of the HEIMDAL / MIT issue ...
>
> It looks like this issue is more difficult to solve than the transition to 
> system.
>

This is being worked on.

There are changes that have been happening on the Samba Technical list
to allow the AD functionality with MIT.
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Re: printing broken by f20->f21 update

[Neal Becker]

Tim Waugh wrote:

> On Tue, 2014-12-09 at 10:45 -0500, Neal Becker wrote:
>> I have 2 machines that have both been updated f20->f21.  Printing was working
>> before.
>> 
>> Now, when I try to print pdf using either okular or evince, all I get are
>> blank pages.
> 
> Could it be this?:
>   https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1158468
> 
> Tim.

Sounds very unlikely.  I was printing pdfs with lots of graphics.  Doesn't seem 
like that would be a font issue.

The problem occurs with evince and with okular, but not with adobe acroread.  
I'm taking a wild guess that evince and okular use system libraries to render, 
while acroread is probably self-contained, and the problem is some library like 
cairo.

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Re: Rpmfusion

[Temlakos]

On 12/10/2014 06:55 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote:

On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 06:38:36 -0500, Temlakos wrote:


On 12/10/2014 06:33 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote:

On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 12:01:37 +0200, jarmo wrote:


Seems, that RPMFUSION is not yet up to date with Fedora 21..

Due to their different development model, their Rawhide repo is the one
that targets Fedora 21. There even is a fresh -release-21 package in it
since yesterday. Whether the repo is complete any without broken deps
anywhere, I dunno.

Now how'm I supposed to use that with fedup? Or do I wait for something
else to happen first?

What error/problem do you see? Anything with their own mirror manager?
The repo tree for '21' is available, at least:

   http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/releases/21/

So, as a last resort, using hardcoded baseurls in the repo config
files should lead to something prior to doing an upgrade.


I'm still waiting for a definite indicator that proceeding to fedup is 
safe if I have any rpmfusion stuff installed.


I'm waiting for rpmfusion's maintainers to do what they must so that 
fedup will get it right the first time.


Temlakos
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Re: Rpmfusion

[Michael Schwendt]

On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 06:38:36 -0500, Temlakos wrote:

> On 12/10/2014 06:33 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> > On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 12:01:37 +0200, jarmo wrote:
> >
> >> Seems, that RPMFUSION is not yet up to date with Fedora 21..
> > Due to their different development model, their Rawhide repo is the one
> > that targets Fedora 21. There even is a fresh -release-21 package in it
> > since yesterday. Whether the repo is complete any without broken deps
> > anywhere, I dunno.
> 
> Now how'm I supposed to use that with fedup? Or do I wait for something 
> else to happen first?

What error/problem do you see? Anything with their own mirror manager?
The repo tree for '21' is available, at least:

  http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/releases/21/

So, as a last resort, using hardcoded baseurls in the repo config
files should lead to something prior to doing an upgrade.
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Re: Rpmfusion

[T.C. Hollingsworth]

On Dec 10, 2014 4:38 AM, "Temlakos"  wrote:
>
> On 12/10/2014 06:33 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 12:01:37 +0200, jarmo wrote:
>>
>>> Seems, that RPMFUSION is not yet up to date with Fedora 21..
>>
>> Due to their different development model, their Rawhide repo is the one
>> that targets Fedora 21. There even is a fresh -release-21 package in it
>> since yesterday. Whether the repo is complete any without broken deps
>> anywhere, I dunno.
>
>
> Now how'm I supposed to use that with fedup? Or do I wait for something
else to happen first?

Install rpmfusion-(non)free-release-rawhide first and then fedup with those
repositories enabled.
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Re: Rpmfusion

[Temlakos]

On 12/10/2014 06:33 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote:

On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 12:01:37 +0200, jarmo wrote:


Seems, that RPMFUSION is not yet up to date with Fedora 21..

Due to their different development model, their Rawhide repo is the one
that targets Fedora 21. There even is a fresh -release-21 package in it
since yesterday. Whether the repo is complete any without broken deps
anywhere, I dunno.


Now how'm I supposed to use that with fedup? Or do I wait for something 
else to happen first?


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Re: Rpmfusion

[Temlakos]

On 12/10/2014 05:01 AM, jarmo wrote:

Seems, that RPMFUSION is not yet up to date with Fedora 21..

Jarmo
That's what I'm waiting for: for RPMfusion, the google repo, and the 
Adobe repo to catch up with the new release. How long would anyone 
suggest I wait?


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Re: Rpmfusion

[Michael Schwendt]

On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 12:01:37 +0200, jarmo wrote:

> Seems, that RPMFUSION is not yet up to date with Fedora 21..

Due to their different development model, their Rawhide repo is the one
that targets Fedora 21. There even is a fresh -release-21 package in it
since yesterday. Whether the repo is complete any without broken deps
anywhere, I dunno.
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Re: printing broken by f20->f21 update

[Tim Waugh]

On Tue, 2014-12-09 at 10:45 -0500, Neal Becker wrote:
> I have 2 machines that have both been updated f20->f21.  Printing was working 
> before.
> 
> Now, when I try to print pdf using either okular or evince, all I get are 
> blank 
> pages.

Could it be this?:
  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1158468

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Rpmfusion

[jarmo]

Seems, that RPMFUSION is not yet up to date with Fedora 21..

Jarmo
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Re: pdftk

[T.C. Hollingsworth]

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 6:37 PM, Ranjan Maitra
 wrote:
> What is the story with pdftk?

As pointed out by others, it used a really old Java stack that is no
longer supported.

There is a more modern replacement called mcpdf.  It supports the same
command line syntax but has much more modern underpinnings.  However,
it uses a newer version of the iText library that cannot be included
in Fedora due to nonfree restrictions in its license:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/legal/2011-June/001656.html

If you are fine with those additional restrictions, you are still free
to download and it use it yourself.  Make sure you have OpenJDK
installed if you do not already (`yum install java`), then download
and run it, as described here:
https://github.com/m-click/mcpdf/blob/master/README.org

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RE: Samba 4 support

[J.Witvliet]

Indeed,

At FOSDEM, two years ago (or is it already three) at de samba-devroom they say 
that with samba4 you could do a seamless switch from Microsoft-AD to samba4,  
and back.
All major distro's fail to do so, because of the HEIMDAL / MIT issue ...

It looks like this issue is more difficult to solve than the transition to 
system.

Hw


-Original Message-
From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
[mailto:users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Robert Moskowitz
Sent: woensdag 10 december 2014 2:43
To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Subject: Samba 4 support

I was asking about Samba 4 on the Samba list and got the following response 
about Fedora and Samba4:

"If you look thru previous posts to this forum you will see that Samba 4 uses 
Heimdal Kerberos libraries , while Fedora uses MIT kerberos libraries, so you 
need to recompile Samba 4 from scratch will all the appropriate dependencies.  
I have not done this. Samba 4 as an AD DC includes its own LDAP server."

So what is the story?  Does Fedora work for a Samba AD?

Though, at this point, I am looking very strongly at staying with an NTDomain 
setup.  I am getting strong recommendations for AD being a separate system from 
the file server, and I only want one system.


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Re: pdftk

[Paul Allen Newell]

On 12/09/2014 09:48 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:

On Tue, 9 Dec 2014 21:01:46 -0500 Matthew Miller  
wrote:


On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 07:37:08PM -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote:

What is the story with pdftk?
$ sudo yum list pdftk
.
Installed Packages
pdftk.x86_641.44-11.fc19 @fedora
Is it orphaned? That would be a bummer! I depend on it a lot.

Unfortunately, yes. See


Thanks! Any chance it will be picked up by rpmforge or something?

Best wishes,
Ranjan



It would be good if someone who could pick it up w/o the issues that 
Fedora had would do it -- pdftk was a good package and will be missed. 
Given that Fedora isn't going to continue, I understand it is a bit 
useless to make the comment here. But hopefully senior folk in Fedora 
can give a push for pdftk to be "somewhere" within the Linux world that 
Fedora users can pick up (and also Centos).


One question that I wanted to ask is whether pdftk is continuing on 
other platforms. I first encountered / used / liked on Windows 98. Is 
the non-support of such for Fedora only local to Fedora (meaning whoever 
is writing it is still pushing it out for other opSys)?


Thanks,
Paul

Paul

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Re: fedup - luks encrypted system

[Felix Schwarz]

Am 10.12.2014 um 04:17 schrieb Robin Laing:
> In the past, using fedup was a disaster due to encrypted systems.
> 
> Is this working in F21?
>
> Don't use LVM's and partitions are encrypted using LUKS.  This includes /tmp
> swap.  /boot isn't encrypted.

It worked for me, I upgraded from F20->F21 and a very similar filesystem setup
as you described (luks encrypted / + swap, no lvm).

fs

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