Re: VM access to base system files

2014-12-31 Thread Sam Varshavchik

Robert Moskowitz writes:

I just did a little test.  If my focus is on the VM, it gets the USB mount,  
and the host OS does not.  If my focus is on a host OS window, it gets the  
USB mount and the VM does not see it.  So that prevents two writers to the  
one device.


Really? If I plug in USB storage, I always have to futz around with the VM's  
settings, manually select "add new USB device", find the new USB storage  
device, and only then Windows 7 that's running in my VM sees it.


This might be a new virtual USB hardware "device" that I have to switch to,  
does anyone know this for sure? This is probably somewhat similar to how  
audio support evolved over time. When I set up my first Windows 7 VM, there  
was no audio passthrough from the VM to the real audio. I kind of let it go,  
after Googling that, on an off, for a year or so. A few releases of Fedora  
later, a second Windows 7 VM install suddenly had sound. Comparing the two  
VMs, the older one showed "Display: VNC", the new VM had "Display: Spice".  
After changing the older VM's setting, I suddenly had audio.


If KVM can now automatically grab USB storage if the VM has input focus,  
this would certainly be a very nice jump in functionality, if I could only  
figure out how to make it do that, now…




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emacs with emacs-slime shows error "Don't know how to compile nil"

2014-12-31 Thread R Mercado
I see the error below when starting emacs ever since I added emacs-slime
to my fedora 20 box.

/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/site-start.d/slime.el:Error: Don't know how
to compile nil

Where to report the bug?

Thanks


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Re: Evolution not filtering

2014-12-31 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2014-12-31 at 15:08 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote:
> In Fedora 21, using evolution-3.12.9, in KDE (maybe it happens in gnome
> as well?), anyone having trouble with evolution not downloading all the
> emails, via imap, as in just stops?  Mine does that, and if I close it,
> then open again, it shows and gets the emails.  And sometimes it either
> doesn't filter at all, or it does, and acts like it leaves a copy
> showing in the inbox?  Had no issues with the version from fedora 20 at
> all. 

Works for me, same version of Evo and using KDE under F21. You might
want to ask on the Evolution list
(https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list). See also the
builtin help for how to turn on debugging, and
https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/mail-filters-not-working.html.en 
for how to log filter activity.

poc

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Re: 2015

2014-12-31 Thread Aradenatorix Veckhom Vacelaevus
Happy New Year for you Pomidoral Belisima and thanks for all your time
and helping in this mail list.

Regards
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2015

2014-12-31 Thread poma
More joy, more engagement.

poma
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Re: VM access to base system files

2014-12-31 Thread Robert Moskowitz


On 12/31/2014 04:55 PM, Digimer wrote:

On 31/12/14 04:51 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


On 12/31/2014 04:47 PM, Digimer wrote:

On 31/12/14 04:45 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


On 12/31/2014 04:14 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Wed, 31 Dec 2014 16:07:59 -0500
Robert Moskowitz wrote:

First to access files in my base system.  Like my real /home/me 
stuff.

So far my searching how to do this has come up empty.

I just setup NFS on both systems (or if you are taking windows,
then samba).


Argh.  Then I have to relearn NFS.  Been only some 20 years since I 
last

used it.


A VM is, effectively, just another computer on your network. So
communicating between them is, save for a few special exceptions, no
different that setting up access between two normal computers.


Figured as much.  But since the VM has access to things like the USB
ports and supposedly can see the mounts (have not tried this yet), I was
wondering the extent that mounting works.  So far I have not found
anything in my searching.  Perhaps because, as you imply, there is
nothing else other then network (and physical device) mounts.


Generally things like USB work when you "pass through" the device to 
the VM. I don't play with pass-through much, but my understanding is 
that it usually involves disconnecting it from the host (save for 
shareable devices like dvd drives which are read-only by nature).


I've seen talk about the host being able to see the contents of a VM, 
but this would have to work like plugging another machine's HDD into 
yours... You certainly don't want to do that when the guest is running 
because most filesystems expect any changes to the underlying storage 
to go through it, lest you corrupt your storage.


I just did a little test.  If my focus is on the VM, it gets the USB 
mount, and the host OS does not.  If my focus is on a host OS window, it 
gets the USB mount and the VM does not see it.  So that prevents two 
writers to the one device.


Until I get NFS setup, this will work.


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Re: VM access to base system files

2014-12-31 Thread Digimer

On 31/12/14 04:51 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


On 12/31/2014 04:47 PM, Digimer wrote:

On 31/12/14 04:45 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


On 12/31/2014 04:14 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Wed, 31 Dec 2014 16:07:59 -0500
Robert Moskowitz wrote:


First to access files in my base system.  Like my real /home/me stuff.
So far my searching how to do this has come up empty.

I just setup NFS on both systems (or if you are taking windows,
then samba).


Argh.  Then I have to relearn NFS.  Been only some 20 years since I last
used it.


A VM is, effectively, just another computer on your network. So
communicating between them is, save for a few special exceptions, no
different that setting up access between two normal computers.


Figured as much.  But since the VM has access to things like the USB
ports and supposedly can see the mounts (have not tried this yet), I was
wondering the extent that mounting works.  So far I have not found
anything in my searching.  Perhaps because, as you imply, there is
nothing else other then network (and physical device) mounts.


Generally things like USB work when you "pass through" the device to the 
VM. I don't play with pass-through much, but my understanding is that it 
usually involves disconnecting it from the host (save for shareable 
devices like dvd drives which are read-only by nature).


I've seen talk about the host being able to see the contents of a VM, 
but this would have to work like plugging another machine's HDD into 
yours... You certainly don't want to do that when the guest is running 
because most filesystems expect any changes to the underlying storage to 
go through it, lest you corrupt your storage.


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Re: VM access to base system files

2014-12-31 Thread Robert Moskowitz


On 12/31/2014 04:47 PM, Digimer wrote:

On 31/12/14 04:45 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


On 12/31/2014 04:14 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Wed, 31 Dec 2014 16:07:59 -0500
Robert Moskowitz wrote:


First to access files in my base system.  Like my real /home/me stuff.
So far my searching how to do this has come up empty.

I just setup NFS on both systems (or if you are taking windows,
then samba).


Argh.  Then I have to relearn NFS.  Been only some 20 years since I last
used it.


A VM is, effectively, just another computer on your network. So 
communicating between them is, save for a few special exceptions, no 
different that setting up access between two normal computers.


Figured as much.  But since the VM has access to things like the USB 
ports and supposedly can see the mounts (have not tried this yet), I was 
wondering the extent that mounting works.  So far I have not found 
anything in my searching.  Perhaps because, as you imply, there is 
nothing else other then network (and physical device) mounts.




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Re: VM access to base system files

2014-12-31 Thread Digimer

On 31/12/14 04:45 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


On 12/31/2014 04:14 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Wed, 31 Dec 2014 16:07:59 -0500
Robert Moskowitz wrote:


First to access files in my base system.  Like my real /home/me stuff.
So far my searching how to do this has come up empty.

I just setup NFS on both systems (or if you are taking windows,
then samba).


Argh.  Then I have to relearn NFS.  Been only some 20 years since I last
used it.


A VM is, effectively, just another computer on your network. So 
communicating between them is, save for a few special exceptions, no 
different that setting up access between two normal computers.


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Re: VM access to base system files

2014-12-31 Thread Robert Moskowitz


On 12/31/2014 04:14 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Wed, 31 Dec 2014 16:07:59 -0500
Robert Moskowitz wrote:


First to access files in my base system.  Like my real /home/me stuff.
So far my searching how to do this has come up empty.

I just setup NFS on both systems (or if you are taking windows,
then samba).


Argh.  Then I have to relearn NFS.  Been only some 20 years since I last 
used it.



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Re: KVM/QEMU remote connection

2014-12-31 Thread Flavio Leitner
On Wednesday, December 31, 2014 03:21:46 PM Glenn Holmer wrote:
> On 12/31/2014 02:33 PM, Flavio Leitner wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 31, 2014 02:11:38 PM Glenn Holmer wrote:
> >> I'm trying to connect to another machine using virt-manager (File/Add
> >> Connection). I select QEMU/KVM as hypervisor, "connect to remote host",
> >> method SSH, and a username and hostname on the remote machine. The
> >> result is always that I get prompted for my passphrase, but then see
> >> "authentication failed: no agent is available to authenticate". I get
> >> this going from either machine to the other.
> >>
> >> Virtualization is set up OK because I can run virtual machines on both
> >> VM hosts. SSH is set up OK, I can ssh with public key in both directions
> >> both as myself and as root. I tried "setenforce 0" on both machines to
> >> see if SELinux was blocking it, but the result was the same.
> >>
> >> What am I missing?
> > 
> > Do you see the process ssh-agent running?
> 
> I see this on both machines:
> 
> /usr/bin/ssh-agent /bin/sh -c exec -l /bin/bash -c "/usr/bin/startkde"
> 

Right, do you see your identity there?
$ ssh-add -l 

If so, is there any chance of you are running the virt-manager out of the
established session?  I'd start the virt-manager on the same shell running
the ssh-add above to confirm.

I just tried here with F21 and I could add a remote hypervisor using ssh keys.

fbl
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Re: KVM/QEMU remote connection

2014-12-31 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 12/31/2014 02:33 PM, Flavio Leitner wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 31, 2014 02:11:38 PM Glenn Holmer wrote:
>> I'm trying to connect to another machine using virt-manager (File/Add
>> Connection). I select QEMU/KVM as hypervisor, "connect to remote host",
>> method SSH, and a username and hostname on the remote machine. The
>> result is always that I get prompted for my passphrase, but then see
>> "authentication failed: no agent is available to authenticate". I get
>> this going from either machine to the other.
>>
>> Virtualization is set up OK because I can run virtual machines on both
>> VM hosts. SSH is set up OK, I can ssh with public key in both directions
>> both as myself and as root. I tried "setenforce 0" on both machines to
>> see if SELinux was blocking it, but the result was the same.
>>
>> What am I missing?
> 
> Do you see the process ssh-agent running?

I see this on both machines:

/usr/bin/ssh-agent /bin/sh -c exec -l /bin/bash -c "/usr/bin/startkde"

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Re: VM access to base system files

2014-12-31 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 31 Dec 2014 16:07:59 -0500
Robert Moskowitz wrote:

> First to access files in my base system.  Like my real /home/me stuff.  
> So far my searching how to do this has come up empty.

I just setup NFS on both systems (or if you are taking windows,
then samba).
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VM access to base system files

2014-12-31 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Well I got my first VM created and in it.  Got Firefox installed and 
adblock plugged in...


There are two things I want to do next.

First to access files in my base system.  Like my real /home/me stuff.  
So far my searching how to do this has come up empty.


Next I will want to set up firefox to run proxy through an SSH tunnel to 
a server on my net.  This is for when I am on the road to give me a 
trusted connection for a number of things.  But hopefully this will be a 
'simple' SSH tunnel with port 80/443 proxy support.


thanks


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Evolution not filtering

2014-12-31 Thread Mike Chambers
In Fedora 21, using evolution-3.12.9, in KDE (maybe it happens in gnome
as well?), anyone having trouble with evolution not downloading all the
emails, via imap, as in just stops?  Mine does that, and if I close it,
then open again, it shows and gets the emails.  And sometimes it either
doesn't filter at all, or it does, and acts like it leaves a copy
showing in the inbox?  Had no issues with the version from fedora 20 at
all. 
 
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Re: KVM/QEMU remote connection

2014-12-31 Thread Flavio Leitner
On Wednesday, December 31, 2014 02:11:38 PM Glenn Holmer wrote:
> I'm trying to connect to another machine using virt-manager (File/Add
> Connection). I select QEMU/KVM as hypervisor, "connect to remote host",
> method SSH, and a username and hostname on the remote machine. The
> result is always that I get prompted for my passphrase, but then see
> "authentication failed: no agent is available to authenticate". I get
> this going from either machine to the other.
> 
> Virtualization is set up OK because I can run virtual machines on both
> VM hosts. SSH is set up OK, I can ssh with public key in both directions
> both as myself and as root. I tried "setenforce 0" on both machines to
> see if SELinux was blocking it, but the result was the same.
> 
> What am I missing?

Do you see the process ssh-agent running?

fbl
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KVM/QEMU remote connection

2014-12-31 Thread Glenn Holmer
I'm trying to connect to another machine using virt-manager (File/Add
Connection). I select QEMU/KVM as hypervisor, "connect to remote host",
method SSH, and a username and hostname on the remote machine. The
result is always that I get prompted for my passphrase, but then see
"authentication failed: no agent is available to authenticate". I get
this going from either machine to the other.

Virtualization is set up OK because I can run virtual machines on both
VM hosts. SSH is set up OK, I can ssh with public key in both directions
both as myself and as root. I tried "setenforce 0" on both machines to
see if SELinux was blocking it, but the result was the same.

What am I missing?

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Wine installation

2014-12-31 Thread Angelo Moreschini
Hi,

I used* gnome-software* to install Wine.
Now I have on the desk top an icon of "wine" that I can launch.
If I search for wine, I have this output:
--
[angelo_user@zorro ~]$ sudo find / -iname "q4wine"
[sudo] password for angelo_user:
/usr/bin/q4wine
/usr/lib64/q4wine
/usr/share/doc/q4wine
/usr/share/q4wine
find: ‘/run/user/1000/gvfs’: Permission denied
/home/angelo_user/.config/q4wine


The problem come when I use the application (when I launch wine)...

...then I get some messages of error that say the application is not
properly installed.
The first one is:
---
Cannot find or execute the 'wine' binary. Make sure that this binary is
available by search PATH variable and see also INSTALL file for application
depends.
---
After this messages come a wizard to help me to do the set up of Wine...
The first steps of the wizard ask me :

   - wine bin:
   - wine server:
   - wine loader:
   - wine libs ..:

I am not able to set correctly this data  (for example wine server in
not installed).

So I am confused .. because gnome-software  don't seem it made the
installation also gnome-software didn't get me a .rpm file to use for
the installation...

What I have to do ???

Regards

Angelo
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Re: Finally finished - Re: New to building VMs. Build stalled at 597/1241

2014-12-31 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 31 Dec 2014 12:53:21 -0500
Robert Moskowitz wrote:

> Please explain.  What is this 'disk cache mode' you speak of?  Is it 
> part of the virutal machinery or my base installed OS?

In virt-manager when you look at the VM properties (the light bulb
icon), you can select different bits of virtual hardware and
fiddle with things like the disk cache mode.

Annoyingly, however, all it ever says when you look at it
at first is "default", so you have no clue what the default
setting is. I experimented once a long time ago with all the
different cache modes, and found writeback much faster than
the default (or course, for all I know the default is now
better, but I can't tell because I still can't find out
what "default" means :-).
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Re: Finally finished - Re: New to building VMs. Build stalled at 597/1241

2014-12-31 Thread Robert Moskowitz


On 12/31/2014 12:48 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Wed, 31 Dec 2014 12:44:11 -0500
Robert Moskowitz wrote:


Took a number of hours.

That may be a sign that the disk cache mode isn't
set right. I find that "writeback" speeds things
up a lot compared to some of the other settings.


Please explain.  What is this 'disk cache mode' you speak of?  Is it 
part of the virutal machinery or my base installed OS?


Plus it did its reboot thing, but sat there with a blank screen. Which I 
cloesed after 15 min sitting there.  Then the manager said that the 
virtual image was running.  So I tried to force it to shutdown.  But it 
reported that there was nothing to shutdown.  I closed the VM GUI and 
will wait a bit before I check to see what is happening.


Once I get the VM working, I need to see how to access my base OS's data 
files.  I hope there is an easy access method.  It would be a pain if I 
have to rsync GB into the VM...



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Re: Finally finished - Re: New to building VMs. Build stalled at 597/1241

2014-12-31 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 31 Dec 2014 12:44:11 -0500
Robert Moskowitz wrote:

> Took a number of hours.

That may be a sign that the disk cache mode isn't
set right. I find that "writeback" speeds things
up a lot compared to some of the other settings.
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Finally finished - Re: New to building VMs. Build stalled at 597/1241

2014-12-31 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Finally finished.  Took a number of hours.  And the screen went from 
597/1241 message to finished.



On 12/31/2014 11:37 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

I have finally buckled down to learn to make a VM.

Now I probably bit off a bit much.

I am installing from my local repo.  For some reason it said this is a 
test image.  My netinst to this notebook did not say that. Something 
MAY be left over in my repo from the beta.


I then specified the URL of my updates repo.  This worked fine both on 
this notebook and my Asus i386 notebook.


I then selected Xfce desktop and really a minimal set of tools, on 
10Gb storage.  The install started and for the last ~2 hours it has 
been sitting at 597/1241 on the install status.  The message is 
installing yum.


I can access my repo server, though I don't see any activity on it.

I have been following the instructions at:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Getting_started_with_virtualization

And am using the GUI virutual manager.




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Re: F21 - Huge icons

2014-12-31 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 29 December 2014 at 22:41, David A. De Graaf  wrote:
> Icons are taking over the World!  In Fedora 21, that is.
> I've always been afraid that the GUI generation would eventually
> make Linux completely unusable, and now they've almost succeeded.  :-)
>
> In a few F21 GUI panels the icons are grotesquely large - 1.75 inches
> square on a 15 inch wide monitor.  Normal size would be ~0.25 in.
> This makes the panel nearly incomprehensible.  This occurs in, eg,
> system-config-printer
> system-config-firewall
> virt-manager
>
> A screenshot is attached of virt-manager running an instance of Centos
> 7 on the Fedora 21 host.
>   [No, it's not!  GUI's are OK; images of them are too big for this
>   list.  Sigh...]
> The virt-manager icons are so big that that
> the virtual window cannot be enlarged to a proper size.
>
> A possible clue to the error are the messages in the root window
> following the virt-manager command:
>   [root@datwiz ~]
>   # virt-manager
>   [root@datwiz ~]
>   #
>   (virt-manager:1994): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error:
>   gtk.css:67:18: Not using units is deprecated. Assuming 'px'.
>
>   (virt-manager:1994): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error:
>   gtk.css:67:20: Not using units is deprecated. Assuming 'px'.
>
> Similar messages appear when system-config-printer is invoked.
> Unfortunately these mean nothing to me.
>
> FWIW, I installed F20 using the wonderful Live Xfce4 images ( thank you
> Kevin Fenzi ), and have completely avoided the dreaded Gnome.  I've
> enabled multi-user.target so that neither lightdm nor gdm can destroy
> my env variables.
>
> My questions to you all:
> Does anyone see these huge icons in the example programs?

That could be a problem with the HiDPI stuff in GNOME, i.e. it's
detecting your monitor wrongly.

This command, run as user, should set the window scaling factor to 1:
gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface scaling-factor 1

or use dconf-editor or gnome-tweak-tool -> Windows -> "Window scaling".

> Can anyone guess the problem with the Theme?

I don't think the warning you got about the theme is the cause of the
problem you're hitting.

> Am I the only one with the problem?   On three machines, so far?
>

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New to building VMs. Build stalled at 597/1241

2014-12-31 Thread Robert Moskowitz

I have finally buckled down to learn to make a VM.

Now I probably bit off a bit much.

I am installing from my local repo.  For some reason it said this is a 
test image.  My netinst to this notebook did not say that. Something MAY 
be left over in my repo from the beta.


I then specified the URL of my updates repo.  This worked fine both on 
this notebook and my Asus i386 notebook.


I then selected Xfce desktop and really a minimal set of tools, on 10Gb 
storage.  The install started and for the last ~2 hours it has been 
sitting at 597/1241 on the install status.  The message is installing yum.


I can access my repo server, though I don't see any activity on it.

I have been following the instructions at:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Getting_started_with_virtualization

And am using the GUI virutual manager.


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Re: Saving ios data dash

2014-12-31 Thread Bob Goodwin


On 12/31/14 05:08, Tim wrote:

On Tue, 2014-12-30 at 16:33 -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote:

>  [bobg@box10 ~]$ cat
>  /home/bobg/.mozilla/firefox/iezecg4r.default/chrome/userContent.css
>
>  *
>   {
>color: white !important;
>background: black !important;
>border-color: red !important;
>-moz-appearance: none !important;}
>
>This seems to do most of what I want. I see that photographic images
>are still presented in color so many pages still contain everything
>but are more easily read with the white text on a black background and
>the red border shows that it's working.

Good to know.  A basic re-style is less likely to throw up nasty
surprises, but you are still fighting against a webpage's own styling,
which may have done all sorts of tricks to make their site work.

The borders should only appear on things that were meant to have
borders, so they should help reading things like tables, which would be
difficult with no clue as to where the table cells were, for example.

Images will be handled completely differently, and I'm not aware of any
CSS that can be applied to images.  So, if you did need to change image
rendering, I think you'll need to find some kind of image processing
plug-in.


>However I've been tracking an airline flight [UAL 4215] on
>Flightaware.com and most of the information on map presentation as
>well as the graph of altitude and speed have lost most of their
>detail. e.g. the map shows a line from KORF to KORD and nothing else.

Yes, that kind of thing is the risk you run when altering a website.
Being able to turn it on and off on the fly is probably needed.  There
is a good chance that some thing will become invisible.  Especially on
pages where the author set a foreground colour, but never bothered to
set a background colour, or vice versa, where they depended on the
default being what they expected.


Thank you for the help, this has filled in a big gap for me; I now have 
a section Firefox > .css in my Notecase-pro notes.


Bob


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Workaround for radiotray on F21

2014-12-31 Thread Paul Smith
Dear All,

The problem:

$ radiotray
** Message: pygobject_register_sinkfunc is deprecated (GstObject)
$

Does somebody know about a workaround?

Thanks in advance,

Paul
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Re: wireless is strange

2014-12-31 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht

Dave Ihnat  writes:
> On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 05:32:03PM +0100, antonio wrote:
>> as network is a an extension of an office network, I do not want
>> anybody even see that network is extended
>
> With all due respect, it doesn't matter.  The Bad Guys(Tm) *will* see it,
> SSID or not.  WiFi scanning tools return all channels, with or without a
> SSID.  So why obfuscate your network to no advantage?  It just gets in the
> way of legitimate administration and users.

And even more importantly, laptops and phones need to search for hidden
SSID's, so they are constantly broadcasting the fact that they are
looking for a certain SSID, even when they aren't anywhere near that
SSID.  People with hidden SSID's are effectively letting people track
them wherever they go. ;-)

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Re: wireless is strange

2014-12-31 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2014-12-30 at 17:32 +0100, antonio wrote:
> as network is a an extension of an office network, I do not want
> anybody even see that network is extended

That doesn't work, it doesn't do what you think it does.

As I'd already pointed out, removing the SSID doesn't hide the network.
It's still listed, for anybody who lists the surrounding networks, it's
just un-named.

For more admin fun and games, try connecting to the right network when
you're surrounded by several neighbours all running un-named access
points.  Then you might realise that the only thing you can do to make
your own networking easier, is to have a SSID showing with a name of
your own choosing.


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Re: Saving ios data dash

2014-12-31 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2014-12-30 at 16:33 -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote:
>  [bobg@box10 ~]$ cat 
>  /home/bobg/.mozilla/firefox/iezecg4r.default/chrome/userContent.css
>
>  *
>   {
>color: white !important;
>background: black !important;
>border-color: red !important;
>-moz-appearance: none !important;}
> 
> This seems to do most of what I want. I see that photographic images
> are still presented in color so many pages still contain everything
> but are more easily read with the white text on a black background and
> the red border shows that it's working.

Good to know.  A basic re-style is less likely to throw up nasty
surprises, but you are still fighting against a webpage's own styling,
which may have done all sorts of tricks to make their site work.

The borders should only appear on things that were meant to have
borders, so they should help reading things like tables, which would be
difficult with no clue as to where the table cells were, for example.

Images will be handled completely differently, and I'm not aware of any
CSS that can be applied to images.  So, if you did need to change image
rendering, I think you'll need to find some kind of image processing
plug-in.

> However I've been tracking an airline flight [UAL 4215] on 
> Flightaware.com and most of the information on map presentation as
> well as the graph of altitude and speed have lost most of their
> detail. e.g. the map shows a line from KORF to KORD and nothing else.

Yes, that kind of thing is the risk you run when altering a website.
Being able to turn it on and off on the fly is probably needed.  There
is a good chance that some thing will become invisible.  Especially on
pages where the author set a foreground colour, but never bothered to
set a background colour, or vice versa, where they depended on the
default being what they expected.
> 

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Re: extremely slow shell starts (trying to debug, dbus related)

2014-12-31 Thread Cameron Simpson

On 30Dec2014 08:36, Neal Becker  wrote:

On my server, after updating f20->f21, shell startup is _extremely_ slow.

Using strace, it appears that the problem is dbus

08:22:57 connect(5, {sa_family=AF_LOCAL,
sun_path="/var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket"}, 33) = 0
...
08:22:57 recvmsg(5, 0x7fff640c3970, MSG_CMSG_CLOEXEC) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource
temporarily unavailable)
08:22:57 poll([{fd=5, events=POLLIN}], 1, 25000) = 1 ([{fd=5, revents=POLLIN}])
08:23:22 recvmsg(5, {msg_name(0)=NULL,
msg_iov(1)=[{"l\3\1\0013\0\0\0\4\0\0\0m\0\0\0\6\1s\0\7\0\0\0:1.1155\0"...,
2048}], msg_controllen=0, msg_flags=MSG_CMSG_CLOEXEC}, MSG_CMSG_CLOEXEC) = 179
08:23:22 write(6, "\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0", 8) = 8

Notice the 30second wait for a response from dbus?

Also in /var/log/messages, various dbus messages such as:
Dec 30 08:19:32 nbecker7 su: (to root) nbecker on pts/0
Dec 30 08:20:02 nbecker7 dbus[809]: [system] Connection has not authenticated
soon enough, closing it (auth_timeout=3ms, elapsed: 30004ms)

Any hints?


Those log line times don't match the strace times. But I'll assume they're 
typical, and associate with your shell startups timingwise.


A few questions:

- why does the shell use dbus at all? (just wondering, I'm presuming this is 
some bash feature new to me)

- can you strace dbus (pid 809 in the above log)? using strace's -f option if 
dbus forks.

- 30s is in my head as a standard DNS timeout, but it is also common to some 
other things and your sample strace above shows only 25s. (Though I notice also 
that the timeout in the poll() call is itself exactly 25s).


So you're not seeing a 25s wait before dbus replies, you're seeing a 25s 
timeout on the client (your shell?)?


I'd be trying 2 things: see if dbus has a config option to turn up its 
debugging messages, and strace dbus around a shell start. Eg:


 strace -p 809 -f -o strace.dbus.out

Disclaimer: not running Fedora here, so this is all general advice.

Cheers,
Cameron Simpson 

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