Re: Thunderbird does not display images in email messages

2015-03-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/07/15 16:45, Tim wrote:
 The sample you provided, on a later email, has some JPEGs encoded into
 the message (as per the second description, above).  But you didn't say
 if you were supplying a working or non-working sample.

It wouldn't make much sense for him to have supplied a working example, would 
it?  :-) :-)

Anyway, if you were to try view the mail in T-Bird you'd find it to be as 
originally described. 

I had a bit more time to look at this in the evening and I can see what is 
being expected of T-Bird.  If you look at the MIME headers for the images 
you'd these headers as an example

Content-Type: image/jpeg
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-ID: tAhk9iyMmm1CIfpU4g9p

The key being the Content-ID. 

Then, in the text/html section of the message you'd find this sort of html 
snippet

div class=3Dyiv3030508851ecxyiv7863957078MsoNormal style=3D=
BACKGROUND:white;span style=3DFONT-SIZE:16pt;FONT-FAMILY:Arial, sans-se=
rif;COLOR:black;img id=3Dyiv3030508851ecxyiv7863957078_x_i1044 alt=
=3D[] src=3Dcid:tAhk9iyMmm1CIfpU4g9p width=3D561 height=3D405 data-=
id=3D17bfaf0f-58fa-c795-9880-bde833a43cb7/span

Notice the cid:tAhk9iyMmm1CIfpU4g9p?  Which is referring to image via the 
Content-ID?  I don't know what standard defines this, but it seems clear that 
the HTML engine of T-Bird can't handle this.


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Re: Unable to blank dvd/rw media

2015-03-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/07/15 19:52, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote:
 Am 07.03.2015 um 03:18 schrieb jd1008:
 This drive or media does not support the 'BLANK media' command
 cdrecord: Cannot blank disk, aborting. 

 These lines say it all, see the BLANK command applies to CDs, not to DVD-rw's 
 (cdrecord --help).
 Usually you *format* these media once, then, unlike CDs, you simply overwrite 
 them.

I hardly use optical media these days.  But I happen to find an old Philips 
DVD+RW disk in a drawer.  I used the cdrecord -v blank=all command on it and it 
worked just fine.  I didn't save the output it created but there was a HINT 
telling me I really should be using the dvd+rw-format command.

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Re: Problem installing Fedora 22 Alpha RC3

2015-03-07 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 06:42:36 -0700, Lawrence E Graves wrote:

 I really don't know how to get the information needed to diagnose what 
 is going on. Rather than criticizing me, help me get what you need to 
 better the project. I am still in the learning stages of using Fedora. I 
 know something about cars but not about Fedora. I had to learn about 
 cars. Thank you for your help.

What file exactly did you download?
How did you try to install F22 Alpha?
What buttons did you click? What installation method did you choose?
What response did you get?
You refer to this problem. What problem? An error message?
You refer to success in a virtual machine. Describe in details what
you did to install in that virtual machine. Do the same for your
failed installation attempt.
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Re: GNOME Boxes resizing the disk

2015-03-07 Thread Frederic Muller
On 03/08/2015 01:28 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:
 qemu-img, virt-resize, and guestfish. It depends on whether you're
 shrinking or growing which you use and in what order. All of it can be
 done from the host using qemu-img and guestfish, without the VM being
 online. And guestfish can resize (well, delete then add) MBR and GPT
 partitions, resize LVs, and at least the three major filesystems. For
 sure the VM needs to be off when using guestfish.
 
 Of course, you could boot the VM from some other image, and use the
 tools you're familiar with from inside the VM. For growing, it's
 possible to do this online even without booting from some other image,
 but it'll take one early reboot after changing the last partition
 size, or adding another partition, to capture the extra space from
 qemu-img resize.
 
 
 Chris Murphy
 
Hi!

So I actually chose the smallest/defaut size and that was a mistake. Now
I need to increase the size which I did through the GUI, but of course
the OS (GNU/Linux) doesn't see it. I do not want to delete the disk and
make a bigger one as I don't want to reinstall. I think the fs type is
ext4 but I went through automatic install and didn't pay attention...

I couldn't find out how to reboot for the iso file an already installed VM.

Thank you if you could tell me more.

Fred
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Flash drive question -

2015-03-07 Thread Bob Goodwin
I have two flash drives I cleared of data and somehow put them in a 
condition where they do not show up on the desktop display and I do not 
know how to access them, there must be a way?


Both are detected when plugged in:

[bobg@box10 ~]$ lsusb
Bus 005 Device 004: ID 154b:6545 PNY FD Device

What do I need to do access them?

Bob

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Re: Flash drive question -

2015-03-07 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 03/07/15 12:22, Bob Goodwin wrote:
I have two flash drives I cleared of data and somehow put them in a 
condition where they do not show up on the desktop display and I do 
not know how to access them, there must be a way?


Both are detected when plugged in:

[bobg@box10 ~]$ lsusb
Bus 005 Device 004: ID 154b:6545 PNY FD Device

What do I need to do access them?

Bob


.

Ok, I found them listed in journalctl when plugged in under /dev/sdd and 
then I was able to fix things and mkfs vfat.


Bob



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Re: Thunderbird does not display images in email messages

2015-03-07 Thread jd1008



On 03/07/2015 01:45 AM, Tim wrote:

The sample you provided, on a later email, has some JPEGs encoded into
the message (as per the second description, above).  But you didn't say
if you were supplying a working or non-working sample.

I supplied what my thread subject says :) :)

It is a real message, and I did not concoct it.

Thanx.
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Re: How can I figure out what yum/systemd is doing?

2015-03-07 Thread Dave Johansen
On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Dave Johansen davejohan...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Over an hour ago, I started a yum remove in F21 and it seems to have
 hung at removing the 2nd of 8 rpms. I noticed that systemd was using ~40%
 of a CPU and so I left figuring it might just work itself out, but now
 over an hour later, it's still hung and system is still using a lot of CPU.
 What can I do to try and diagnose what is going wrong with yum and/or
 systemd?
 Thanks,
 Dave


I attached to the yum process with gdb and here's the backtrace:
#0  0xb76debac in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#1  0xb7510d03 in __waitpid_nocancel () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#2  0xb6fa4842 in rpmScriptRun () from /lib/librpm.so.3
#3  0xb6f83c53 in runScript () from /lib/librpm.so.3
#4  0xb6f8434f in runInstScript () from /lib/librpm.so.3
#5  0xb6f8531b in rpmpsmRun () from /lib/librpm.so.3
#6  0xb6f9a3cb in rpmteProcess () from /lib/librpm.so.3
#7  0xb6fa1714 in rpmtsRun () from /lib/librpm.so.3
#8  0xb6fd0f0a in rpmts_Run () from
/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/rpm/_rpm.so
#9  0xb758a609 in PyCFunction_Call () from /lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#10 0xb754a645 in PyObject_Call () from /lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#11 0xb75e6f33 in PyEval_CallObjectWithKeywords () from
/lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#12 0xb75616c6 in methoddescr_call () from /lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#13 0xb754a645 in PyObject_Call () from /lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#14 0xb75eb187 in PyEval_EvalFrameEx () from /lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#15 0xb75ecfe1 in PyEval_EvalFrameEx () from /lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#16 0xb75ee1ea in PyEval_EvalCodeEx () from /lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#17 0xb75ecf11 in PyEval_EvalFrameEx () from /lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#18 0xb75ee1ea in PyEval_EvalCodeEx () from /lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#19 0xb75ecf11 in PyEval_EvalFrameEx () from /lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#20 0xb75ee1ea in PyEval_EvalCodeEx () from /lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#21 0xb75ecf11 in PyEval_EvalFrameEx () from /lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#22 0xb75ee1ea in PyEval_EvalCodeEx () from /lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#23 0xb75ecf11 in PyEval_EvalFrameEx () from /lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#24 0xb75ee1ea in PyEval_EvalCodeEx () from /lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#25 0xb75ee344 in PyEval_EvalCode () from /lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#26 0xb76078db in run_mod () from /lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#27 0xb7608d70 in PyRun_FileExFlags () from /lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#28 0xb760a163 in PyRun_SimpleFileExFlags () from /lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#29 0xb760a6c8 in PyRun_AnyFileExFlags () from /lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#30 0xb761c911 in Py_Main () from /lib/libpython2.7.so.1.0
#31 0x08048578 in main ()

It looks like it's waiting on some process. Is there a way I can tell what
the process is and why it hasn't returned yet?

Thanks,
Dave
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How can I figure out what yum/systemd is doing?

2015-03-07 Thread Dave Johansen
Over an hour ago, I started a yum remove in F21 and it seems to have hung
at removing the 2nd of 8 rpms. I noticed that systemd was using ~40% of a
CPU and so I left figuring it might just work itself out, but now over an
hour later, it's still hung and system is still using a lot of CPU. What
can I do to try and diagnose what is going wrong with yum and/or systemd?
Thanks,
Dave
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Re: Unable to blank dvd/rw media

2015-03-07 Thread Klaus-Peter Schrage

Am 07.03.2015 um 15:15 schrieb Ed Greshko:


I hardly use optical media these days.  But I happen to find an old Philips 
DVD+RW disk in a drawer.  I used the cdrecord -v blank=all command on it and it 
worked just fine.  I didn't save the output it created but there was a HINT 
telling me I really should be using the dvd+rw-format command.



Perhaps this depends on the types of drive or media. I used 'cdrecord -v 
blank=all' on two different DVD+RW brands and got error outputs similar 
to the op's, whereas the same command erased a CD-RW just fine.

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Re: Thunderbird does not display images in email messages

2015-03-07 Thread jd1008



On 03/06/2015 07:34 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 03/07/15 09:22, jd1008 wrote:

OK, I uploaded it to sendspace.com

The download link is:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/1audkv

The images are there, at least in my T-Bird, if I scroll all down to the bottom.

They are not displayed within the message with the text to describe the image since the 
message is poorly constructed by what appears to be a JavaMail client of 
yahoo.  That being said, it does display if one uses the web interface of gmail.

There isn't a setting to solve this.


Thank you Ed. I will pass it on to my friend.
I think others in his blind list are seeing this
issue that TB does not have a setting to redeem.
Sometimes the list of images he sends is so long
that you keep scrolling and scrolling to get to the
first displayable image becomes old, as one has
only a ton of emails to view :)

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Re: Thunderbird does not display images in email messages

2015-03-07 Thread jd1008



On 03/07/2015 03:47 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 03/07/15 16:45, Tim wrote:

The sample you provided, on a later email, has some JPEGs encoded into
the message (as per the second description, above).  But you didn't say
if you were supplying a working or non-working sample.

It wouldn't make much sense for him to have supplied a working example, would 
it?  :-) :-)

Anyway, if you were to try view the mail in T-Bird you'd find it to be as 
originally described.

I had a bit more time to look at this in the evening and I can see what is being 
expected of T-Bird.  If you look at the MIME headers for the images you'd 
these headers as an example

Content-Type: image/jpeg
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-ID: tAhk9iyMmm1CIfpU4g9p

The key being the Content-ID.

Then, in the text/html section of the message you'd find this sort of html 
snippet

 div class=3Dyiv3030508851ecxyiv7863957078MsoNormal style=3D=
BACKGROUND:white;span style=3DFONT-SIZE:16pt;FONT-FAMILY:Arial, sans-se=
rif;COLOR:black;img id=3Dyiv3030508851ecxyiv7863957078_x_i1044 alt=
=3D[] src=3Dcid:tAhk9iyMmm1CIfpU4g9p width=3D561 height=3D405 data-=
id=3D17bfaf0f-58fa-c795-9880-bde833a43cb7/span

Notice the cid:tAhk9iyMmm1CIfpU4g9p?  Which is referring to image via the 
Content-ID?  I don't know what standard defines this, but it seems clear that 
the HTML engine of T-Bird can't handle this.

Thank you again Ed.
I hope TB devs will view your message.

Cheers,

JD
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Re: Problem installing Fedora 22 Alpha RC3

2015-03-07 Thread Sam Varshavchik

Lawrence E Graves writes:

I am sorry. My bag. It won't install what else can I say. If it won't  
install there is nothing to tell or show you.


If you call an auto mechanic, and you only tell him that your car doesn't  
work, and nothing else, do you expect to get a reasonable answer?




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Re: Problem installing Fedora 22 Alpha RC3

2015-03-07 Thread Lawrence E Graves
I really don't know how to get the information needed to diagnose what 
is going on. Rather than criticizing me, help me get what you need to 
better the project. I am still in the learning stages of using Fedora. I 
know something about cars but not about Fedora. I had to learn about 
cars. Thank you for your help.


On 03/07/2015 06:01 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

Lawrence E Graves writes:

I am sorry. My bag. It won't install what else can I say. If it won't 
install there is nothing to tell or show you.


If you call an auto mechanic, and you only tell him that your car 
doesn't work, and nothing else, do you expect to get a reasonable answer?






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Re: MATE on dual screen, put a panel on secondary screen?

2015-03-07 Thread Tom Killian
 Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2015 19:06:42 -0500
 From: Fred Smith fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us
 To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
 Subject:
 Message-ID: 20150307000642.ga25...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

 hi all!

 Experimenting with dual screens on F20 using MATE. Video card is Nvidia
9800GT
 using Nvidia drivers from rpmfusion:

 kmod-nvidia.x86_64 1:331.113-1.fc20.5  @rpmfusion-nonfree-updates

 So, I've got it configured, using the nvidia X-Server Settings tool and it
 works nicely sofar.

 But I'd kinda like trying it with a set of panels on the second screen
much
 like (if not identical to) those on the main screen.

 But so far I've not figured out how to add a panel to the second screen.
 The context menu (right-click on a panel) for new panel offers no
options,
 it just sticks it on the first screen. I can't drag it, it just seems to
 want to sit there.

 Can someone advise me if thereis a way to do what I want? some arcane
 incantation on the commandline, perhaps?

 thanks!
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The (non-intuitive) solution is to make a new panel on the first screen,
then use alt-click to drag it to the second screen where you can set its
orientation and content to taste.  If someone knows how to script this,
that would be nice.
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GNOME Boxes resizing the disk

2015-03-07 Thread Frederic Muller
Hi!

I'm playing with Boxes and need to resize the virtual disk which I had
done through the graphical interface. Now I need to resize the disk
probably by booting from the ISO disk and can't find anyway to do that.

If someone could point out how to do that, or where to find the
information I would really appreciate.

Thank you.

Fred
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Re: Thunderbird does not display images in email messages

2015-03-07 Thread Tim
Tim:
 The sample you provided, on a later email, has some JPEGs encoded into
 the message (as per the second description, above).  But you didn't say
 if you were supplying a working or non-working sample.

Ed Greshko:
 It wouldn't make much sense for him to have supplied a working
 example, would it?  :-) :-)

Well, he did say some worked and some didn't.  I'd be inclined to
provide samples of both, for analysis.

 Anyway, if you were to try view the mail in T-Bird you'd find it to be
 as originally described. 

Don't have it installed, don't really like putting it on systems,
either.  I just had a quick scroll through the raw message (kind of
hard, considering the rather huge content).

 I had a bit more time to look at this in the evening and I can see
 what is being expected of T-Bird.  If you look at the MIME headers
 for the images you'd these headers as an example
  
 Content-Type: image/jpeg
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
 Content-Disposition: inline
 Content-ID: tAhk9iyMmm1CIfpU4g9p
 
 The key being the Content-ID. 
 
 Then, in the text/html section of the message you'd find this sort of html 
 snippet
 
 div class=3Dyiv3030508851ecxyiv7863957078MsoNormal style=3D=
 BACKGROUND:white;span style=3DFONT-SIZE:16pt;FONT-FAMILY:Arial, sans-se=
 rif;COLOR:black;img id=3Dyiv3030508851ecxyiv7863957078_x_i1044 alt=
 =3D[] src=3Dcid:tAhk9iyMmm1CIfpU4g9p width=3D561 height=3D405 data-=
 id=3D17bfaf0f-58fa-c795-9880-bde833a43cb7/span
 
 Notice the cid:tAhk9iyMmm1CIfpU4g9p?  Which is referring to image via
 the Content-ID?  I don't know what standard defines this, but it
 seems clear that the HTML engine of T-Bird can't handle this.

Yes, I remember that kind of thing, of old.  I remember that it would
flumux various emailers, back in my early days of using the internet.
Though I can't recall which specific mail clients.


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Re: MATE on dual screen, put a panel on secondary screen?

2015-03-07 Thread Fred Smith
On Sat, Mar 07, 2015 at 10:27:36AM -0500, Tom Killian wrote:
 Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2015 19:06:42 -0500
 From: Fred Smith [1]fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us
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 hi all!

 Experimenting with dual screens on F20 using MATE. Video card is
Nvidia 9800GT
 using Nvidia drivers from rpmfusion:

         kmod-nvidia.x86_64 1:331.113-1.fc20.5Â
@rpmfusion-nonfree-updates

 So, I've got it configured, using the nvidia X-Server Settings tool
and it
 works nicely sofar.

 But I'd kinda like trying it with a set of panels on the second
screen much
 like (if not identical to) those on the main screen.

 But so far I've not figured out how to add a panel to the second
screen.
 The context menu (right-click on a panel) for new panel offers no
options,
 it just sticks it on the first screen. I can't drag it, it just seems
to
 want to sit there.

 Can someone advise me if thereis a way to do what I want? some arcane
 incantation on the commandline, perhaps?

 thanks!
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The (non-intuitive) solution is to make a new panel on the first
screen, then use alt-click to drag it to the second screen where you
can set its orientation and content to taste.  If someone knows how to
script this, that would be nice.

Yeah, I did figure out how to drag a panel across to the other display
(uncheck the expand box in the panel properties then you can drag it).

I also found out that if you're careful about how you configure the
Nvidia Settings, it will treat the two screens as separate displays,
and Mate will automatically populate the second screen with panels.

Unfortunately, with either technique, the panels on the second screen
appear with nothing on them. I suppose it's possible to figure out how
to put menus on the seconday panels so that they look like the ones on
the main screen, but so far I haven't found the right incantation for
doing that.

I did stumble across an XML file that may be the place to tweak, if I
can't find a GUI for it, but right now I forget where it was. I suppose
I could find it again, with some digging

Fred

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Re: Thunderbird does not display images in email messages

2015-03-07 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2015-03-06 at 17:34 -0700, jd1008 wrote:
 I have been having a problem with TB for quite some time,
 and I am getting rather tired of the problem.
  
 Images in messages that are sent to me by users of windows
 are not displayed in TB. Rather, all I see are empty boxes
 where images are supposed to be.
  
 This is not to say that every message I get from windows users
 containing images are treated this way by TB.

There are three ways messages may contain images, that I can think of
off the top of my head:

1. A plain text message, with files attached.  But this doesn't sount
like your situation.

2. A HTML message which has the images included with the email.  These
may be the kind that works for you.  Though there will be some mail
clients that simply create badly encoded mail, and will fail unless you
use a similarly broken mail client.

3. A HTML message which doesn't include the images with the email, but
has URIs for fetching the images from a webserver.  These may be the
kind that don't work for you.

Also, most mail clients that author HTML email, create a simultaneous
plain text version of the message.  Some mail clients can be configured
to show one or the other, as a preference, for these kinds of messages.
If you're viewing the plain text version, you won't see the images in
the message.

The sample you provided, on a later email, has some JPEGs encoded into
the message (as per the second description, above).  But you didn't say
if you were supplying a working or non-working sample.

Various mail clients give you options for dealing with images in
messages, such as always showing them, never showing them, never
downloading images from the net, or always showing images for certain
people you've okayed in your address book.  You may need to look through
your VIEW menu in the message reader, and some entries in your address
book.

These days, there's a tendency for the default being to not download
images from the net, automatically (you instruct the mail client to
fetch them, if you want them, while reading the message).  This being
due to these images being used for nefarious techniques of one kind or
another (monitoring that you've read the message, exploiting foibles in
mail clients with specially crafted data, etc).

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Re: rsyslog

2015-03-07 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2015-03-06 at 08:28 -0700, Pete Travis wrote:
 No, the journalctl man page does not tell you about ntp logs, nor do
 the rsyslog pages explain grep :)

;-)

The man page suggested that the search parameter was a service name
(that I wouldn't know, at the time), as opposed to just being a keyword
I could supply to look for in a log entry.

It's still tediously slow to use, compared to the old messages text file
(which was only a recent log file, since the last rotation, not a huge
behemoth).  I'm not convinced it's the best way to do things for those
that only need to do the occasional system administration (because,
generally, their computer just works fine).

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All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying
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Booting up to black screen - Log included

2015-03-07 Thread linuxnutster

Greetings,

I previously posted that since a fedup to fedora 21, I intermittently 
boot up to a blank screen. I'm using akmod-nvidia-340xx, but reverting 
back to nouveau did not solve the issue. One out of every 3 boot results 
in the problem. I pressed ctrl+alt+F2 and logged in and attempted the 
startx command. The resulting error message said to check xorg.1.log.


The nvidia console ( nvidia xserver settings ) clearly indicates my 
screen type ( Ancor communications Asus VH196. Would the no screens 
found be the possible source of my headache?


This is the error log from /var/log/Xorg.1.log:

[   359.396] (II) FBDEV: driver for framebuffer: fbdev
[   359.396] (II) VESA: driver for VESA chipsets: vesa
[   359.396] (++) using VT number 2

[   359.396] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for modesetting
[   359.396] (II) Loading sub module fbdevhw
[   359.396] (II) LoadModule: fbdevhw
[   359.396] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/libfbdevhw.so
[   359.397] (II) Module fbdevhw: vendor=X.Org Foundation
[   359.397]compiled for 1.16.3, module version = 0.0.2
[   359.397]ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 18.0
[   359.397] (EE) open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory
[   359.397] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for fbdev
[   359.397] (II) Loading sub module fbdevhw
[   359.397] (II) LoadModule: fbdevhw
[   359.397] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/libfbdevhw.so
[   359.397] (II) Module fbdevhw: vendor=X.Org Foundation
[   359.397]compiled for 1.16.3, module version = 0.0.2
[   359.397]ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 18.0
[   359.397] (EE) open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory
[   359.397] vesa: Ignoring device with a bound kernel driver
[   359.397] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for vesa
[   359.397] (EE) Screen 0 deleted because of no matching config section.
[   359.397] (II) UnloadModule: modesetting
[   359.397] (EE) Screen 0 deleted because of no matching config section.
[   359.397] (II) UnloadModule: fbdev
[   359.397] (II) UnloadSubModule: fbdevhw
[   359.397] (EE) Screen 0 deleted because of no matching config section.
[   359.397] (II) UnloadModule: vesa
[   359.397] (EE) Device(s) detected, but none match those in the config 
file.

[   359.397] (EE)
Fatal server error:
[   359.397] (EE) no screens found(EE)
[   359.397] (EE)
Please consult the Fedora Project support
 at http://wiki.x.org
 for help.
[   359.397] (EE) Please also check the log file at 
/var/log/Xorg.1.log for additional information.

[   359.397] (EE)
[   359.398] (EE) Server terminated with error (1). Closing log file.
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Re: Problem installing Fedora 22 Alpha RC3

2015-03-07 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2015-03-06 at 20:38 -0700, Lawrence E Graves wrote:
 I have tried with a dvd and with usb and the only place I got any 
 success in installing Fedora 22 was in my virtual machine. It there 
 something I am missing that is causing this problem with installing on 
 my PC or my laptop. Please advise if there is a step I am missing in the 
 download or the install process.

F22 has not been released yet and won't be for several months. It's a
test system and should be discussed on the Test list (the hint is in the
name Alpha, and RC3, which means Release Candidate 3).

poc

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Re: rsyslog

2015-03-07 Thread Joonas Sarajärvi
2015-03-07 11:04 GMT+02:00 Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au:
 On Fri, 2015-03-06 at 08:28 -0700, Pete Travis wrote:
 No, the journalctl man page does not tell you about ntp logs, nor do
 the rsyslog pages explain grep :)

 ;-)

 The man page suggested that the search parameter was a service name
 (that I wouldn't know, at the time), as opposed to just being a keyword
 I could supply to look for in a log entry.

 It's still tediously slow to use, compared to the old messages text file
 (which was only a recent log file, since the last rotation, not a huge
 behemoth).  I'm not convinced it's the best way to do things for those
 that only need to do the occasional system administration (because,
 generally, their computer just works fine).

You can limit the amount of data to be grepped or otherwise searched,
if you just tell journalctl to limit its output a bit. On a system
that is booted quite frequently, limiting oneself to just messages
since the last boot should work nicely:

  journalctl -b | grep -i ntp

If your system has a long uptime, the -b option might produce a large
amount of data. In such a case, you might instead use the --since
option:

  journalctl --since '-1 week' | grep -i ntp

I would usually let journalctl put the results in a pager (it does
that by default when not piping) and then use the search/filter
features of less to narrow down the results. These examples use grep,
though, because you seemed to prefer using it for searching.

-Joonas
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Re: Unable to blank dvd/rw media

2015-03-07 Thread Klaus-Peter Schrage

Am 07.03.2015 um 03:18 schrieb jd1008:

This drive or media does not support the 'BLANK media' command
cdrecord: Cannot blank disk, aborting. 


These lines say it all, see the BLANK command applies to CDs, not to 
DVD-rw's (cdrecord --help).
Usually you *format* these media once, then, unlike CDs, you simply 
overwrite them.


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Re: Problem installing Fedora 22 Alpha RC3

2015-03-07 Thread Sam Varshavchik

Lawrence E Graves writes:

I really don't know how to get the information needed to diagnose what is  
going on. Rather than criticizing me, help me get what you need to better the  
project. I am still in the learning stages of using Fedora. I know something  
about cars but not about Fedora.


Great! In that case: my car doesn't work. Do you know why?

I have a feeling it's going to be the same reason you can't install Fedora.


  I had to learn about cars. Thank you for  
your help. 


As much as I, and others, would like to help, it's impossible to help you if  
you can't explain what the problem is. Fedora doesn't install is not an  
explanation.





On 03/07/2015 06:01 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:


Lawrence E Graves writes:

I am sorry. My bag. It won't install what else can I say. If it won't  
install there is nothing to tell or show you.


If you call an auto mechanic, and you only tell him that your car doesn't  
work, and nothing else, do you expect to get a reasonable answer?






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[ F21 ] How to remove GNOME

2015-03-07 Thread Martin Cigorraga
Hi all,

I'm a newcomer to Fedora and still learning its ways so excuse me if my
question sounds stupid.
Now, I want to remove GNOME from my install as I use i3; from what I saw
there's no gnome-group or similar goup available, how should I proceed?

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Re: Problem installing Fedora 22 Alpha RC3

2015-03-07 Thread Lawrence E Graves



On 03/07/2015 02:32 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

Lawrence E Graves writes:

I really don't know how to get the information needed to diagnose 
what is going on. Rather than criticizing me, help me get what you 
need to better the project. I am still in the learning stages of 
using Fedora. I know something about cars but not about Fedora.


Great! In that case: my car doesn't work. Do you know why?

I have a feeling it's going to be the same reason you can't install 
Fedora.



  I had to learn about cars. Thank 
you for your help.


As much as I, and others, would like to help, it's impossible to help 
you if you can't explain what the problem is. Fedora doesn't install 
is not an explanation.





On 03/07/2015 06:01 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:


Lawrence E Graves writes:

I am sorry. My bag. It won't install what else can I say. If it 
won't install there is nothing to tell or show you.


If you call an auto mechanic, and you only tell him that your car 
doesn't work, and nothing else, do you expect to get a reasonable 
answer?


I am going to tell you a little story and then I am through with 
this; I drive a 1996 Lincoln and day one day I went out to start it 
and it wouldn't. I worked on that car for about 3 days until I 
decided to call a tow truck to take it to the shop. When he went to 
move it, it started. The problem was the computer was stuck and all 
I had to do was take the battery post off for 5 minutes and fix it. 
I didn't have a clue asto what was wrong but some else figured it 
out because he had the experience with a car he had. Many of you 
claim to have knowledge of how to fix things but I have noticed that 
many of you have no experience because this is not the first time 
this has happen. I read the threads. I got a good download and made 
an install dvd and install usb drive, put either one in its proper 
place it comes up to the screen that says,Fedora Live and then the 
countdown starts, when the countdown is over the screen goes blank. 
How would you report that?

If anyone desires to respond, thank you.


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Re: Problem installing Fedora 22 Alpha RC3

2015-03-07 Thread Lawrence E Graves



On 03/07/2015 03:17 PM, Martin Cigorraga wrote:

Hi all,
@Lawrence: if the screen goes black at boot time it seems it could a 
video issue, does your computer have a hybrid GPU setup? You can do $ 
lspci | grep -i vga from your running system. Also, you might try 
booting the ISO in the so-called 'safe' mode to reach the GUI.


I'm running F21 and my system has weird Intel/ATI setup. To boot the 
image I had to do so in safe mode, install the system that way (I miss 
a text installer!) then add the proper flags to the kernel line in 
/etc/default/grub in order to have both CPU working as expected and 
enjoy my screen max resolution.


As a side note, it would be good if you switch to the test ML as 
instructed to help keep things tidy.


HTH.

On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 7:07 PM, Lawrence E Graves lgrave...@gmail.com 
mailto:lgrave...@gmail.com wrote:




On 03/07/2015 02:32 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

Lawrence E Graves writes:


I really don't know how to get the information needed to
diagnose what is going on. Rather than criticizing me, help me
get what you need to better the project. I am still in the
learning stages of using Fedora. I know something about cars but
not about Fedora.


Great! In that case: my car doesn't work. Do you know why?

I have a feeling it's going to be the same reason you can't
install Fedora.



I had to learn about cars. Thank you for your help.


As much as I, and others, would like to help, it's impossible to
help you if you can't explain what the problem is. Fedora
doesn't install is not an explanation.




On 03/07/2015 06:01 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:


Lawrence E Graves writes:


I am sorry. My bag. It won't install what else can I say. If
it won't install there is nothing to tell or show you.


If you call an auto mechanic, and you only tell him that your
car doesn't work, and nothing else, do you expect to get a
reasonable answer?

I am going to tell you a little story and then I am through
with this; I drive a 1996 Lincoln and day one day I went out to
start it and it wouldn't. I worked on that car for about 3 days
until I decided to call a tow truck to take it to the shop.
When he went to move it, it started. The problem was the
computer was stuck and all I had to do was take the battery
post off for 5 minutes and fix it. I didn't have a clue asto
what was wrong but some else figured it out because he had the
experience with a car he had. Many of you claim to have
knowledge of how to fix things but I have noticed that many of
you have no experience because this is not the first time this
has happen. I read the threads. I got a good download and made
an install dvd and install usb drive, put either one in its
proper place it comes up to the screen that says,Fedora Live
and then the countdown starts, when the countdown is over the
screen goes blank. How would you report that?
If anyone desires to respond, thank you.

My PC has a nvidia card and my laptop has onboard video. That's
what threw me. Thank you, that worked. I just got it started to
install.
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Re: Thunderbird does not display images in email messages

2015-03-07 Thread jd1008



On 03/07/2015 01:28 PM, Markus Schönhaber wrote:

For once HTML post on purpose.

Am 07.03.2015 um 11:47 schrieb Ed Greshko:

On 03/07/15 16:45, Tim wrote:

The sample you provided, on a later email, has some JPEGs encoded into
the message (as per the second description, above).  But you didn't say
if you were supplying a working or non-working sample.

It wouldn't make much sense for him to have supplied a working example, would 
it?  :-) :-)

Anyway, if you were to try view the mail in T-Bird you'd find it to be as 
originally described.

I had a bit more time to look at this in the evening and I can see what is being 
expected of T-Bird.  If you look at the MIME headers for the images you'd 
these headers as an example

Content-Type: image/jpeg
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-ID: tAhk9iyMmm1CIfpU4g9p

The key being the Content-ID.

Then, in the text/html section of the message you'd find this sort of html 
snippet

 div class=3Dyiv3030508851ecxyiv7863957078MsoNormal style=3D=
BACKGROUND:white;span style=3DFONT-SIZE:16pt;FONT-FAMILY:Arial, sans-se=
rif;COLOR:black;img id=3Dyiv3030508851ecxyiv7863957078_x_i1044 alt=
=3D[] src=3Dcid:tAhk9iyMmm1CIfpU4g9p  width=3D561 height=3D405 data-=
id=3D17bfaf0f-58fa-c795-9880-bde833a43cb7/span

Notice thecid:tAhk9iyMmm1CIfpU4g9p?  Which is referring to image via the 
Content-ID?  I don't know what standard defines this,

http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2392

  but it seems clear that the HTML engine of T-Bird can't handle this.
Thunderbird generally can handle displaying images referenced via a 
cid URL. I often get mails containing images which are referenced this 
way and are displayed correctly.
If you're viewing this post in HTML, you should see an image here 
(provided the list software hasn't stripped it) which is referenced 
via a cid URL:



Why this doesn't work in the provided sample mail, I don't know. Maybe 
(or maybe not) it's related to this:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61815

BTW: this mail is created using Thunderbird,

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Sorry to say that I find this totally unhelpful and it does not address
the sample message I provided, which TB is unable to handle.

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ping not allowed??

2015-03-07 Thread jd1008

$ ping google.com
ping: icmp open socket: Operation not permitted


Is ping supposed to be an suid to root cmd?

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Re: Problem installing Fedora 22 Alpha RC3

2015-03-07 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On 7 March 2015 at 13:42, Lawrence E Graves lgrave...@gmail.com wrote:

 I really don't know how to get the information needed to diagnose what is
 going on. Rather than criticizing me, help me get what you need to better
 the project. I am still in the learning stages of using Fedora.


In that case you might want to learn in the relatively stable environment
of F21 rather than an alpha version of the next release, which is almost
guaranteed to be problematic.

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Re: ping not allowed??

2015-03-07 Thread Doug

On 03/07/2015 07:05 PM, jd1008 wrote:

$ ping google.com
ping: icmp open socket: Operation not permitted


Is ping supposed to be an suid to root cmd?



Here's my ping to Google and the replies. No root required.

[doug@linux64 ~]$ ping google.com
PING google.com (167.206.10.221) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 167.206.10.221: icmp_req=1 ttl=60 time=33.1 ms
64 bytes from 167.206.10.221: icmp_req=2 ttl=60 time=17.9 ms
64 bytes from 167.206.10.221: icmp_req=3 ttl=60 time=28.8 ms
64 bytes from 167.206.10.221: icmp_req=4 ttl=60 time=15.2 ms
^C
--- google.com ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% packet loss, time 3005ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 15.248/23.781/33.152/7.426 ms

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Re: Thunderbird does not display images in email messages

2015-03-07 Thread Markus Schönhaber
For once HTML post on purpose.

Am 07.03.2015 um 11:47 schrieb Ed Greshko:
 On 03/07/15 16:45, Tim wrote:
 The sample you provided, on a later email, has some JPEGs encoded into
 the message (as per the second description, above).  But you didn't say
 if you were supplying a working or non-working sample.
 It wouldn't make much sense for him to have supplied a working example, would 
 it?  :-) :-)

 Anyway, if you were to try view the mail in T-Bird you'd find it to be as 
 originally described. 

 I had a bit more time to look at this in the evening and I can see what is 
 being expected of T-Bird.  If you look at the MIME headers for the images 
 you'd these headers as an example

 Content-Type: image/jpeg
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
 Content-Disposition: inline
 Content-ID: tAhk9iyMmm1CIfpU4g9p

 The key being the Content-ID. 

 Then, in the text/html section of the message you'd find this sort of html 
 snippet

 div class=3Dyiv3030508851ecxyiv7863957078MsoNormal style=3D=
 BACKGROUND:white;span style=3DFONT-SIZE:16pt;FONT-FAMILY:Arial, sans-se=
 rif;COLOR:black;img id=3Dyiv3030508851ecxyiv7863957078_x_i1044 alt=
 =3D[] src=3Dcid:tAhk9iyMmm1CIfpU4g9p width=3D561 height=3D405 data-=
 id=3D17bfaf0f-58fa-c795-9880-bde833a43cb7/span

 Notice the cid:tAhk9iyMmm1CIfpU4g9p?  Which is referring to image via the 
 Content-ID?  I don't know what standard defines this,
http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2392
  but it seems clear that the HTML engine of T-Bird can't handle this.
Thunderbird generally can handle displaying images referenced via a cid
URL. I often get mails containing images which are referenced this way
and are displayed correctly.
If you're viewing this post in HTML, you should see an image here
(provided the list software hasn't stripped it) which is referenced via
a cid URL:


Why this doesn't work in the provided sample mail, I don't know. Maybe
(or maybe not) it's related to this:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61815

BTW: this mail is created using Thunderbird,

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Re: Problem installing Fedora 22 Alpha RC3

2015-03-07 Thread Martin Cigorraga
Hi all,
@Lawrence: if the screen goes black at boot time it seems it could a video
issue, does your computer have a hybrid GPU setup? You can do $ lspci |
grep -i vga from your running system. Also, you might try booting the ISO
in the so-called 'safe' mode to reach the GUI.

I'm running F21 and my system has weird Intel/ATI setup. To boot the image
I had to do so in safe mode, install the system that way (I miss a text
installer!) then add the proper flags to the kernel line in
/etc/default/grub in order to have both CPU working as expected and enjoy
my screen max resolution.

As a side note, it would be good if you switch to the test ML as instructed
to help keep things tidy.

HTH.

On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 7:07 PM, Lawrence E Graves lgrave...@gmail.com
wrote:



 On 03/07/2015 02:32 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

 Lawrence E Graves writes:

 I really don't know how to get the information needed to diagnose what is
 going on. Rather than criticizing me, help me get what you need to better
 the project. I am still in the learning stages of using Fedora. I know
 something about cars but not about Fedora.


 Great! In that case: my car doesn't work. Do you know why?

 I have a feeling it's going to be the same reason you can't install
 Fedora.


   I had to learn about cars. Thank you for
 your help.


 As much as I, and others, would like to help, it's impossible to help you
 if you can't explain what the problem is. Fedora doesn't install is not
 an explanation.



 On 03/07/2015 06:01 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

 Lawrence E Graves writes:

 I am sorry. My bag. It won't install what else can I say. If it won't
 install there is nothing to tell or show you.


 If you call an auto mechanic, and you only tell him that your car doesn't
 work, and nothing else, do you expect to get a reasonable answer?

 I am going to tell you a little story and then I am through with this; I
 drive a 1996 Lincoln and day one day I went out to start it and it
 wouldn't. I worked on that car for about 3 days until I decided to call a
 tow truck to take it to the shop. When he went to move it, it started. The
 problem was the computer was stuck and all I had to do was take the battery
 post off for 5 minutes and fix it. I didn't have a clue asto what was wrong
 but some else figured it out because he had the experience with a car he
 had. Many of you claim to have knowledge of how to fix things but I have
 noticed that many of you have no experience because this is not the first
 time this has happen. I read the threads. I got a good download and made an
 install dvd and install usb drive, put either one in its proper place it
 comes up to the screen that says,Fedora Live and then the countdown
 starts, when the countdown is over the screen goes blank. How would you
 report that?
 If anyone desires to respond, thank you.


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Re: [ F21 ] How to remove GNOME

2015-03-07 Thread Joe Zeff

On 03/07/2015 03:58 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

Of course, all of the old baggage still remains installed, after that. A
small waste of disk space, mostly. I should, one of these days, go over
and clean up as much of the unused Gnome stuff as I can find.


Be sure to switch from gdm to lightdm when you do so.  There's a fair 
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Re: Booting up to black screen - Log included

2015-03-07 Thread Martin Cigorraga
Hello, it's a GPU modules issue, by all means; I experienced the very same
the first time I booted into the live environment to install Fedora.
You need to find a workaround, maybe by adding the needed parameters in
your kernel boot line.
Regards.

On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 9:45 AM, linuxnuts...@videotron.ca wrote:

 Greetings,

 I previously posted that since a fedup to fedora 21, I intermittently boot
 up to a blank screen. I'm using akmod-nvidia-340xx, but reverting back to
 nouveau did not solve the issue. One out of every 3 boot results in the
 problem. I pressed ctrl+alt+F2 and logged in and attempted the startx
 command. The resulting error message said to check xorg.1.log.

 The nvidia console ( nvidia xserver settings ) clearly indicates my screen
 type ( Ancor communications Asus VH196. Would the no screens found be the
 possible source of my headache?

 This is the error log from /var/log/Xorg.1.log:

 [   359.396] (II) FBDEV: driver for framebuffer: fbdev
 [   359.396] (II) VESA: driver for VESA chipsets: vesa
 [   359.396] (++) using VT number 2

 [   359.396] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for modesetting
 [   359.396] (II) Loading sub module fbdevhw
 [   359.396] (II) LoadModule: fbdevhw
 [   359.396] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/libfbdevhw.so
 [   359.397] (II) Module fbdevhw: vendor=X.Org Foundation
 [   359.397]compiled for 1.16.3, module version = 0.0.2
 [   359.397]ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 18.0
 [   359.397] (EE) open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory
 [   359.397] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for fbdev
 [   359.397] (II) Loading sub module fbdevhw
 [   359.397] (II) LoadModule: fbdevhw
 [   359.397] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/libfbdevhw.so
 [   359.397] (II) Module fbdevhw: vendor=X.Org Foundation
 [   359.397]compiled for 1.16.3, module version = 0.0.2
 [   359.397]ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 18.0
 [   359.397] (EE) open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory
 [   359.397] vesa: Ignoring device with a bound kernel driver
 [   359.397] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for vesa
 [   359.397] (EE) Screen 0 deleted because of no matching config section.
 [   359.397] (II) UnloadModule: modesetting
 [   359.397] (EE) Screen 0 deleted because of no matching config section.
 [   359.397] (II) UnloadModule: fbdev
 [   359.397] (II) UnloadSubModule: fbdevhw
 [   359.397] (EE) Screen 0 deleted because of no matching config section.
 [   359.397] (II) UnloadModule: vesa
 [   359.397] (EE) Device(s) detected, but none match those in the config
 file.
 [   359.397] (EE)
 Fatal server error:
 [   359.397] (EE) no screens found(EE)
 [   359.397] (EE)
 Please consult the Fedora Project support
  at http://wiki.x.org
  for help.
 [   359.397] (EE) Please also check the log file at /var/log/Xorg.1.log
 for additional information.
 [   359.397] (EE)
 [   359.398] (EE) Server terminated with error (1). Closing log file.
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Re: Unable to blank dvd/rw media

2015-03-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/08/15 01:29, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote:
 Am 07.03.2015 um 15:15 schrieb Ed Greshko:

 I hardly use optical media these days.  But I happen to find an old Philips 
 DVD+RW disk in a drawer.  I used the cdrecord -v blank=all command on it and 
 it worked just fine.  I didn't save the output it created but there was a 
 HINT telling me I really should be using the dvd+rw-format command.


 Perhaps this depends on the types of drive or media. I used 'cdrecord -v 
 blank=all' on two different DVD+RW brands and got error outputs similar to 
 the op's, whereas the same command erased a CD-RW just fine.

Yes, well the error was

This drive *OR* media does not support the 'BLANK media' command

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[FIXED] ping not allowed??

2015-03-07 Thread jd1008

I reinstalled iputils-20140519-4.fc21.x86_64
and problem went away.

On 03/07/2015 05:05 PM, jd1008 wrote:

$ ping google.com
ping: icmp open socket: Operation not permitted


Is ping supposed to be an suid to root cmd?



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Re: ping not allowed??

2015-03-07 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 5:05 PM, jd1008 jd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 $ ping google.com
 ping: icmp open socket: Operation not permitted

 Is ping supposed to be an suid to root cmd?

No, it uses file capabilities to obtain only the specific permissions it needs.

You can set it straight by running as root:
# setcap cap_net_admin,cap_net_raw+ep /usr/bin/ping

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Re: GNOME Boxes resizing the disk

2015-03-07 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Frederic Muller f...@cm17.com wrote:

 So I actually chose the smallest/defaut size and that was a mistake. Now
 I need to increase the size which I did through the GUI, but of course
 the OS (GNU/Linux) doesn't see it.

I don't know what that means, increasing the size through the GUI. I
wasn't aware Boxes even had an option to resize qcow2 files (?)


I do not want to delete the disk and
 make a bigger one as I don't want to reinstall. I think the fs type is
 ext4 but I went through automatic install and didn't pay attention...

 I couldn't find out how to reboot for the iso file an already installed VM.

 Thank you if you could tell me more.

It's easier to tell you to reinstall and use Manual Partitioning, and
use Standard Partitions instead of LVM. Otherwise I have to write up a
bunch of questions and a how to, and to actually do that effectively
I'd probably need to run through it myself and I don't have the
hardware to do that at the moment.

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Re: Unable to blank dvd/rw media

2015-03-07 Thread jd1008



On 03/07/2015 04:49 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 03/08/15 01:29, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote:

Am 07.03.2015 um 15:15 schrieb Ed Greshko:

I hardly use optical media these days.  But I happen to find an old Philips 
DVD+RW disk in a drawer.  I used the cdrecord -v blank=all command on it and it 
worked just fine.  I didn't save the output it created but there was a HINT 
telling me I really should be using the dvd+rw-format command.


Perhaps this depends on the types of drive or media. I used 'cdrecord -v 
blank=all' on two different DVD+RW brands and got error outputs similar to the 
op's, whereas the same command erased a CD-RW just fine.

Yes, well the error was

This drive *OR* media does not support the 'BLANK media' command


Yes, that was cdrecord's output message.
But as I said, the 100 DVD box of Sony dvd/rw media
said loudly RW.

So, I do not really  know why cdrecord says what it does.

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Re: [ F21 ] How to remove GNOME

2015-03-07 Thread Sam Varshavchik

Martin Cigorraga writes:


Hi all,


I'm a newcomer to Fedora and still learning its ways so excuse me if my  
question sounds stupid.
Now, I want to remove GNOME from my install as I use i3; from what I saw  
there's no gnome-group or similar goup available, how should I proceed?


You want to remove Gnome, and then what? Without Gnome, you do not have an X  
desktop.


Perhaps you want to switch from Gnome to another window manager, like XFCE  
or KDE. Well, after installing the appropriate group, you should have an  
option to switch your session to the new window manager, when logging in.


Although, in my case, when I finally had enough of Gnome, and switched to  
XFCE, I found that my login user environment was too polluted with various  
Gnome-related flotsam, even after I logged into XFCE. To make a clean break,  
I had to create a new userid, move/change ownership of all documents and  
files, to the new userid, then delete the old one.


Of course, all of the old baggage still remains installed, after that. A  
small waste of disk space, mostly. I should, one of these days, go over and  
clean up as much of the unused Gnome stuff as I can find.




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Re: [ F21 ] How to remove GNOME

2015-03-07 Thread Martin Cigorraga
Hello Sam,

Yes, it seems that some packages in Fedora pulls down more dependencies
than I would like; for instance removing the GNOME Desktop group (if it
actually existed) should only remove everything GNOME-related stuff and
only that, not whatever else on what it may depend. Conversely, one should
be able to install X or Wayland separately - at least that's how I used
with Arch and Gentoo albeit RHEL seems more close to Debian in this regard.

About the question I made, I think it is quite self-explanatory: there are
groups for every-other Desktop Environment (even one for Window Managers)
but there's none for GNOME Desktop. Of course I believe one could go and
remove leftovers by hand, what I say is that's strange - just to say
something - that there isn't a meta-group that takes care of that.

Regards.

On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 8:58 PM, Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com
wrote:

 Martin Cigorraga writes:

  Hi all,


 I'm a newcomer to Fedora and still learning its ways so excuse me if my
 question sounds stupid.
 Now, I want to remove GNOME from my install as I use i3; from what I saw
 there's no gnome-group or similar goup available, how should I proceed?


 You want to remove Gnome, and then what? Without Gnome, you do not have an
 X desktop.

 Perhaps you want to switch from Gnome to another window manager, like XFCE
 or KDE. Well, after installing the appropriate group, you should have an
 option to switch your session to the new window manager, when logging in.

 Although, in my case, when I finally had enough of Gnome, and switched to
 XFCE, I found that my login user environment was too polluted with various
 Gnome-related flotsam, even after I logged into XFCE. To make a clean
 break, I had to create a new userid, move/change ownership of all documents
 and files, to the new userid, then delete the old one.

 Of course, all of the old baggage still remains installed, after that. A
 small waste of disk space, mostly. I should, one of these days, go over and
 clean up as much of the unused Gnome stuff as I can find.


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Re: [ F21 ] How to remove GNOME

2015-03-07 Thread Martin Cigorraga
Ahh, that's actually a nice tip Joe, thanks a lot.

On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 9:09 PM, Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us wrote:

 On 03/07/2015 03:58 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

 Of course, all of the old baggage still remains installed, after that. A
 small waste of disk space, mostly. I should, one of these days, go over
 and clean up as much of the unused Gnome stuff as I can find.


 Be sure to switch from gdm to lightdm when you do so.  There's a fair
 amount of Gnome cruft that requires gdm for one reason or another, so it's
 easier to get rid of it first, then go after the rest.
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Re: Unable to blank dvd/rw media

2015-03-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/08/15 07:58, jd1008 wrote:
 Yes, that was cdrecord's output message.
 But as I said, the 100 DVD box of Sony dvd/rw media
 said loudly RW.

 So, I do not really  know why cdrecord says what it does. 

But, RW doesn't imply that the blank command is supported.

Use format instead.  And, you also need to specify if it is -RW or +RW.

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Re: Unable to blank dvd/rw media

2015-03-07 Thread jd1008



On 03/07/2015 06:24 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 03/08/15 09:22, jd1008 wrote:


On 03/07/2015 06:08 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 03/08/15 07:58, jd1008 wrote:

Yes, that was cdrecord's output message.
But as I said, the 100 DVD box of Sony dvd/rw media
said loudly RW.

So, I do not really  know why cdrecord says what it does.

But, RW doesn't imply that the blank command is supported.

Use format instead.  And, you also need to specify if it is -RW or +RW.


+RW

On this drive, I have been able to burn both + and - RW/


So, try using dvd+rw-format command which is part of the dvd+rw-tools package.


Same 'ting :)
 /usr/local/bin/dvd+rw-format -force=full /dev/sr0
* BD/DVD±RW/-RAM format utility by ap...@fy.chalmers.se, version 7.1.
:-( mounted media doesn't appear to be DVD±RW, DVD-RAM or Blu-ray

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Re: Unable to blank dvd/rw media

2015-03-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/07/15 22:15, Ed Greshko wrote:
 On 03/07/15 19:52, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote:
 Am 07.03.2015 um 03:18 schrieb jd1008:
 This drive or media does not support the 'BLANK media' command
 cdrecord: Cannot blank disk, aborting. 
 These lines say it all, see the BLANK command applies to CDs, not to 
 DVD-rw's (cdrecord --help).
 Usually you *format* these media once, then, unlike CDs, you simply 
 overwrite them.

 I hardly use optical media these days.  But I happen to find an old Philips 
 DVD+RW disk in a drawer.  I used the cdrecord -v blank=all command on it and 
 it worked just fine.  I didn't save the output it created but there was a 
 HINT telling me I really should be using the dvd+rw-format command.


I err'd when I wrote the above as I actually found 2 DVD's in the drawer and 
the one I used was an off-brand from Melody Group here in Taiwan and blanking 
worked. 

The Philips brand DVD+RW does *not* support the blank option when using the 
dvd+rw-format tool...

[egreshko@meimei ~]$ dvd+rw-format -blank=full /dev/sr0
* BD/DVD±RW/-RAM format utility by ap...@fy.chalmers.se, version 7.1.
* 4.7GB DVD+RW media detected.
- illegal command-line option for this media.
- you have the option to re-run dvd+rw-format with:
  -lead-out  to elicit lead-out relocation for better
 DVD-ROM compatibility, data is not affected;
  -force to enforce new format (not recommended)
 and wipe the data.

But, if using cdrecord -v blank=all it will proceedbut I killed it before 
it started to wipe the disk since I found I wanted to keep the movie that was 
on it.  :-) :-)

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Re: Problem installing Fedora 22 Alpha RC3

2015-03-07 Thread Lawrence E Graves
I hear you but this is how I have learn to run and like linux. I build 
computers and am not good with software part. The only way to learn is 
to get busy.
I do run 21 on my PC but I use my laptop to learn how to run the next 
release.


On 03/07/2015 05:20 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:


On 7 March 2015 at 13:42, Lawrence E Graves lgrave...@gmail.com 
mailto:lgrave...@gmail.com wrote:


I really don't know how to get the information needed to diagnose
what is going on. Rather than criticizing me, help me get what you
need to better the project. I am still in the learning stages of
using Fedora. 



In that case you might want to learn in the relatively stable 
environment of F21 rather than an alpha version of the next release, 
which is almost guaranteed to be problematic.


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Re: [ F21 ] How to remove GNOME

2015-03-07 Thread Joe Zeff

On 03/07/2015 08:05 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:


I am afraid not.  It is quite the reverse really. GDM requires a number
of GNOME components because it provides many features directly before
you even login.  However very few packages require GDM itself


Sorry; I got it backward.  I knew that there were dependency issues but 
forgot which direction.  Thanx for the correction.

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Re: Thunderbird does not display images in email messages

2015-03-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/08/15 14:07, Tim wrote:
 Did you read the bugzilla and look at the other message headers, to see
 whether the overall HTML message content-type headers in yours was like
 the bugzilla?

FWIW, did you notice the bugzilla was open 2000-12-02?  :-) :-)

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Re: Fedora 20: After running yum update the Mate Terminal doesn't start anymore

2015-03-07 Thread Martin Cigorraga
As for alternative terminals, rxvt-unicode-256color (actual name of the
package) is a nice starting point (you can customize it via ~/.Xdefaults).
Another good alternative and more close to what I think you are used to is
lxterminal, the terminal emulator from Xfce.
Then you have Konsole (KDE's terminal) and GNOME's gnome-terminal, E17's
fancy term, aterm, eterm, xterm...

And finally you have Terminator - albeit I'm not sure if it's a terminal
emulator by its own or it needs gnome-terminal as an underlying base.
In any case tmux+{your terminal of choice} should be a better choice.

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 On Fri, 2015-02-27 at 10:17 -1000, Jim Lewis wrote:
  Well, I'm still trying to figure out how I can run a command to get a
  command line from the command line when I don't have a command line.
  Yes, I spent all night coming up with that :).

 ;-\

 With some desktops ALT+F2 pops up a dialog box to enter a command.

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Re: Unable to blank dvd/rw media

2015-03-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/08/15 10:36, jd1008 wrote:
 Same 'ting :)
  /usr/local/bin/dvd+rw-format -force=full /dev/sr0
 * BD/DVD±RW/-RAM format utility by ap...@fy.chalmers.se, version 7.1.
 :-( mounted media doesn't appear to be DVD±RW, DVD-RAM or Blu-ray 

What does dvd+rw-mediainfo /dev/sr0 return?


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Re: [ F21 ] How to remove GNOME

2015-03-07 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi

On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 7:12 PM, Martin Cigorraga  wrote:

 Ahh, that's actually a nice tip Joe, thanks a lot.


I am afraid not.  It is quite the reverse really.  GDM requires a number of
GNOME components because it provides many features directly before you even
login.  However very few packages require GDM itself

$sudo dnf repoquery --whatrequires gdm

Using metadata from Fri Mar  6 22:30:56 2015

gnome-initial-setup-0:3.14.2.1-1.fc21.x86_64
ovirt-guest-agent-gdm-plugin-0:1.0.10.2-1.fc21.noarch
pulseaudio-gdm-hooks-0:5.0-25.fc21.x86_64
xfce4-xfswitch-plugin-0:0.0.1-11.fc21.x86_64
gnome-initial-setup-0:3.14.2.1-2.fc21.x86_64

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Re: Unable to blank dvd/rw media

2015-03-07 Thread jd1008



On 03/07/2015 06:08 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 03/08/15 07:58, jd1008 wrote:

Yes, that was cdrecord's output message.
But as I said, the 100 DVD box of Sony dvd/rw media
said loudly RW.

So, I do not really  know why cdrecord says what it does.

But, RW doesn't imply that the blank command is supported.

Use format instead.  And, you also need to specify if it is -RW or +RW.


+RW

On this drive, I have been able to burn both + and - RW/

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Re: Thunderbird does not display images in email messages

2015-03-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/08/15 04:28, Markus Schönhaber wrote:
 Thunderbird generally can handle displaying images referenced via a cid URL. 
 I often get mails containing images which are referenced this way and are 
 displayed correctly.
 If you're viewing this post in HTML, you should see an image here (provided 
 the list software hasn't stripped it) which is referenced via a cid URL:


 Why this doesn't work in the provided sample mail, I don't know. Maybe (or 
 maybe not) it's related to this:
 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61815

 BTW: this mail is created using Thunderbird,

Thanks for that information.  As I only implied, I don't know html.  :-)

Indeed, when you use Insert within T-Bird and use HTML in the body it does 
use the cid: format. 

So, without adequate knowledge it is impossible to determine where the fault 
lies.  I've seen this sort of problem before when different groups interpreted 
a standard slightly different.  One group confusing should with must and 
then not properly handling exceptions.

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Re: Unable to blank dvd/rw media

2015-03-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/08/15 09:22, jd1008 wrote:


 On 03/07/2015 06:08 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
 On 03/08/15 07:58, jd1008 wrote:
 Yes, that was cdrecord's output message.
 But as I said, the 100 DVD box of Sony dvd/rw media
 said loudly RW.

 So, I do not really  know why cdrecord says what it does.
 But, RW doesn't imply that the blank command is supported.

 Use format instead.  And, you also need to specify if it is -RW or +RW.

 +RW

 On this drive, I have been able to burn both + and - RW/


So, try using dvd+rw-format command which is part of the dvd+rw-tools package.

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Re: Problem installing Fedora 22 Alpha RC3

2015-03-07 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 3:07 PM, Lawrence E Graves lgrave...@gmail.com wrote:
I got a good download and made an install dvd and install
 usb drive, put either one in its proper place it comes up to the screen that
 says,Fedora Live and then the countdown starts, when the countdown is over
 the screen goes blank. How would you report that?

Exactly like you just did.

The thing is, you've actually just told us a lot. You shouldn't be
using Alpha at all, so I advise you to stop and test Fedora 21 final
release instead. Alpha testers know they need to go to the
Troubleshooting menu and try basic graphics mode first in such a case.

It really isn't fair to come on a non-test list and ask about Alpha
test build behavior which could very well be buggy in a way no one on
this list can help with. If you have problems with Fedora 21 final,
this list is a good place to be. But still you really should have
poked the thing right in front of you, the Troubleshooting menu, with
a stick, before poking people on a mailing list. It's really that
basic.



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Re: Unable to blank dvd/rw media

2015-03-07 Thread jd1008



On 03/07/2015 06:24 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 03/08/15 09:22, jd1008 wrote:


On 03/07/2015 06:08 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 03/08/15 07:58, jd1008 wrote:

Yes, that was cdrecord's output message.
But as I said, the 100 DVD box of Sony dvd/rw media
said loudly RW.

So, I do not really  know why cdrecord says what it does.

But, RW doesn't imply that the blank command is supported.

Use format instead.  And, you also need to specify if it is -RW or +RW.


+RW

On this drive, I have been able to burn both + and - RW/


So, try using dvd+rw-format command which is part of the dvd+rw-tools package.


I have not tried the format command.
Will get back to you on this.

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Re: [ F21 ] How to remove GNOME

2015-03-07 Thread Martin Cigorraga
Thank you Rahul.

After doing the proper backup I will try something in the line of # yum
erase gdm $(rpm -qa | grep gnome).

On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 1:05 AM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi

 On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 7:12 PM, Martin Cigorraga  wrote:

 Ahh, that's actually a nice tip Joe, thanks a lot.


 I am afraid not.  It is quite the reverse really.  GDM requires a number
 of GNOME components because it provides many features directly before you
 even login.  However very few packages require GDM itself

 $sudo dnf repoquery --whatrequires gdm

 Using metadata from Fri Mar  6 22:30:56 2015

 gnome-initial-setup-0:3.14.2.1-1.fc21.x86_64
 ovirt-guest-agent-gdm-plugin-0:1.0.10.2-1.fc21.noarch
 pulseaudio-gdm-hooks-0:5.0-25.fc21.x86_64
 xfce4-xfswitch-plugin-0:0.0.1-11.fc21.x86_64
 gnome-initial-setup-0:3.14.2.1-2.fc21.x86_64

 Rahul

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Re: Thunderbird does not display images in email messages

2015-03-07 Thread Tim
Markus Schönhaber:
 Thunderbird generally can handle displaying images referenced via a 
 cid URL. I often get mails containing images which are referenced this 
 way and are displayed correctly.
 If you're viewing this post in HTML, you should see an image here 
 (provided the list software hasn't stripped it) which is referenced 
 via a cid URL:

 Why this doesn't work in the provided sample mail, I don't know. Maybe 
 (or maybe not) it's related to this:
 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61815


jd1008:
 Sorry to say that I find this totally unhelpful and it does not address
 the sample message I provided, which TB is unable to handle.

Did you read the bugzilla and look at the other message headers, to see
whether the overall HTML message content-type headers in yours was like
the bugzilla?

With a multipart message (text and pictures), there's one type of header
you could expect.  With a multipart alternative (a text version with a
HTML version, there's another type.  Some mail clients, particularly
Microsoft ones, are infamous for creating outright broken message, so
all bets are off regarding proper interpretation.

Here, using Evolution, I could see the disco dancing Fedora panda, and I
noticed that its content ID was in the more usual form that looks
somewhat like an email address (something@something), whereas the
failing message had a simpler (RaNdOm) kind of ID.  I don't know if
that's an extra consideration, or not a problem at all.

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