Re: hourly yum cron
On Tue, 2015-03-24 at 16:30 -0500, anlarye wrote: > Every hour I get the same notice from a default yum cron job. > > /etc/cron.hourly/0yum-hourly.cron: > > Not using downloaded repomd.xml because it is older than what we have: > Current : Thu Mar 19 23:01:22 2015 > Downloaded: Thu Mar 19 17:54:56 2015 > > > If I run any of the following commands the next hourly yum cron will go by > without the notice but following that this same notice returns. Including > having the same time date stamp on the downloaded repomd.xml file > > > yum clean expire-cache > yum clean metadata > yum clean all > > Any help in getting this fixed? I could hazard a guess that it's not a fault. i.e. That the repo data hasn't changed since you last checked, so there's no need to change what you downloaded. If it had changed, it'd be newer. Is this a recent thing? -- tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.18.9-100.fc20.i686 #1 SMP Mon Mar 9 17:04:05 UTC 2015 i686 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. George Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning against tyranny, not a set of instructions for supposedly democratic governments. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Does KDE do offline software updates?
Patrick O'Callaghan: >> So updating any package, no matter how trivial, means rebooting? >> Speaking as someone who has never been a Gnome user, thanks for the >> clarification. KDE certainly does not do this. I don't know if any other >> DE does. Joe Zeff: > That's right if, and only if you use Gnome's built in package updater. > If you use yum, yumex or dnf, you're not forced to reboot. Jeez, but that sounds such a crap encumbrance. Even just a log out and log back in again is a severe nuisance. It's beginning to sound a lot like Windows; built for morons, by morons. -- tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.18.9-100.fc20.i686 #1 SMP Mon Mar 9 17:04:05 UTC 2015 i686 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. George Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning against tyranny, not a set of instructions for supposedly democratic governments. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Does KDE do offline software updates?
On Tue, 2015-03-24 at 17:33 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > quite frequently I can update packages without restarting anything, so > forcing a restart would be overkill. Likewise... Though, these days, I'm running Mate on a current release, rather than Gnome (I'm using Gnome on some out-of-date installs). Thus far, I can only remember finding Firefox to foul up if you try to keep using it when an update has been installed. Obviously you need to fully quit and restart it to use the new version, but not so obvious is that it doesn't always fully quit when you think it should have. Though I don't use a great deal of software, it's rare that I'm using much more than a web browser, mail client, IM client, text editor, and a command line terminal. A few other things get started, from time to time, but those are the few that will be running nearly any time I'm logged in. Over the years, I've been pleasantly surprised at how well most things (just about everything) handled updates being applied while they were running. -- tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.18.9-100.fc20.i686 #1 SMP Mon Mar 9 17:04:05 UTC 2015 i686 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. George Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning against tyranny, not a set of instructions for supposedly democratic governments. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: mdadm raid1 confuses fedora 21?
On Tue, 24 Mar 2015 19:49:01 -0400 Tom Horsley wrote: > Do I need the initramfs rebuilt or > something? Yep. I chrooted into the f21 partition and did a yum update kernel to get a new kernel and everything started functioning correctly. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Does KDE do offline software updates?
On 03/24/2015 05:39 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: So updating any package, no matter how trivial, means rebooting? Speaking as someone who has never been a Gnome user, thanks for the clarification. KDE certainly does not do this. I don't know if any other DE does. That's right if, and only if you use Gnome's built in package updater. If you use yum, yumex or dnf, you're not forced to reboot. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Does KDE do offline software updates?
On Tue, 2015-03-24 at 18:24 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > > That's fine. It's just that from your description I had the > impression > > that the only way to apply updates was from this Restart & Install > > action. > > If you're using the graphical package manager, yes, this is the only > way. So updating any package, no matter how trivial, means rebooting? Speaking as someone who has never been a Gnome user, thanks for the clarification. KDE certainly does not do this. I don't know if any other DE does. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Does KDE do offline software updates?
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 5:57 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2015-03-24 at 11:40 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: >> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 5:14 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan >> wrote: >> > On Mon, 2015-03-23 at 17:50 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: >> >> OK I'm going to display some total KDE ignorance here, hopefully a KDE >> >> user can answer this. >> > >> > Note that there's a Fedora-KDE list at >> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde >> > >> >> On GNOME, gnome-software + packagekit + systemd work together to make >> >> the user aware of software updates. This includes any installed >> >> applications, as well as OS + kernel updates. The user clicks on >> >> Restart & Install in gnome-software, or chooses that option in the >> >> reboot/poweroff panel. The system reboots, a special systemd offline >> >> updates target is triggered, and packagekit installs all the >> >> previously downloaded rpms with a progress indicator, then reboots >> >> (again). >> > >> > You mean Gnome makes you reboot for every update? I must be >> > misunderstanding what you're saying. >> >> OS updates yes. If it's strictly an application update or install, no. > > That's fine. It's just that from your description I had the impression > that the only way to apply updates was from this Restart & Install > action. If you're using the graphical package manager, yes, this is the only way. -- Chris Murphy -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Does KDE do offline software updates?
On Tue, 2015-03-24 at 11:40 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 5:14 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan > wrote: > > On Mon, 2015-03-23 at 17:50 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > >> OK I'm going to display some total KDE ignorance here, hopefully a KDE > >> user can answer this. > > > > Note that there's a Fedora-KDE list at > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde > > > >> On GNOME, gnome-software + packagekit + systemd work together to make > >> the user aware of software updates. This includes any installed > >> applications, as well as OS + kernel updates. The user clicks on > >> Restart & Install in gnome-software, or chooses that option in the > >> reboot/poweroff panel. The system reboots, a special systemd offline > >> updates target is triggered, and packagekit installs all the > >> previously downloaded rpms with a progress indicator, then reboots > >> (again). > > > > You mean Gnome makes you reboot for every update? I must be > > misunderstanding what you're saying. > > OS updates yes. If it's strictly an application update or install, no. That's fine. It's just that from your description I had the impression that the only way to apply updates was from this Restart & Install action. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
mdadm raid1 confuses fedora 21?
I enabled mdmonitor, and created a raid1 while booted into fedora 20 and everything is wonderful. It recognizes the entry in fstab and boots no problem. (I'm not using the raid1 to boot from, BTY, just as a data disk). I then tried to boot the fedora 21 partition on the same machine (being sure to enable mdmonitor in it as well), and it never finishes booting. (Though a fedora 21 live USB stick boots fine). Has something changed in the vicinity of mdadm in f21? Do I need the initramfs rebuilt or something? Right now it stops booting with messages on the screen something like "/dev/sde is a large disk, trying to use READCAPACITY" and just sits there. (Where /dev/sde is one of the two disks I have in the array). -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
hourly yum cron
Every hour I get the same notice from a default yum cron job. /etc/cron.hourly/0yum-hourly.cron: Not using downloaded repomd.xml because it is older than what we have: Current : Thu Mar 19 23:01:22 2015 Downloaded: Thu Mar 19 17:54:56 2015 If I run any of the following commands the next hourly yum cron will go by without the notice but following that this same notice returns. Including having the same time date stamp on the downloaded repomd.xml file yum clean expire-cache yum clean metadata yum clean all Any help in getting this fixed? Thanks -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Does KDE do offline software updates?
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 5:14 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2015-03-23 at 17:50 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: >> OK I'm going to display some total KDE ignorance here, hopefully a KDE >> user can answer this. > > Note that there's a Fedora-KDE list at > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde > >> On GNOME, gnome-software + packagekit + systemd work together to make >> the user aware of software updates. This includes any installed >> applications, as well as OS + kernel updates. The user clicks on >> Restart & Install in gnome-software, or chooses that option in the >> reboot/poweroff panel. The system reboots, a special systemd offline >> updates target is triggered, and packagekit installs all the >> previously downloaded rpms with a progress indicator, then reboots >> (again). > > You mean Gnome makes you reboot for every update? I must be > misunderstanding what you're saying. OS updates yes. If it's strictly an application update or install, no. -- Chris Murphy -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: calendar servers?
On 03/24/2015 11:41 AM, Ian Malone wrote: Thanks, had given it a look a while back and thought it might be a bit heavy-duty if I just wanted a caldav facility, but it might do. The Darwin one seems it should be the most compliant, but doesn't play well with py-caldav. I use radicale with Thunderbird and DAVdroid to sync my multiple desktops, laptops, and phone for both calendar and contacts. I've never had a problem. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Does KDE do offline software updates?
On Tue, 2015-03-24 at 15:38 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Tue, 24 Mar 2015 12:45:26 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > I don't use Gnome so my understanding of this is based only on a literal > > reading. It appears to say that packages are updated with a tool which > > among other things causes two reboots. Obviously I know that the user > > might just employ yum as I do myself (on KDE) but the description of the > > GUI tool is quite specific. Which is why I asked if that's what really > > happens. Call it a rhetorical question. > > You sound as if you're surprised that an update tool applies offline > updates with the help of rebooting. The way the description was phrased is not specifically limited to offline updates (they are only mentioned in the message Subject), but rather makes it sound as if this was how *all* updating is normally done under Gnome. I still don't know if that's the case or not. Makes it sound like Windows. > It has never been entirely safe to update/upgrade with Yum. Simply > because Yum does not take any precautions, such as making sure the > user doesn't use a program while upgrading it, or killing and > restarting services in a way it doesn't harm the runtime environment. > Offline updates remove some of the pitfalls. Of course. Every time I use yum I check (using needs-restarting) to see what has to be done. However quite frequently I can update packages without restarting anything, so forcing a restart would be overkill. But as I say, I still don't know of that is what is being said. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: The last eclipse-cdt update has broken my c++ perspective
Hi Kevin, thank you for your help. I uninstalled all eclipse packages and then install them again as to have c++ support issuing yum install eclipse eclipse-cdt as root I had to completely remove my eclipse metadata from .eclipse in my home folder, for some reasons, unknown to me, they were non in sync anymore or they got broken. After that I got the c perspective back again. Thank you and have a nice week! Luca On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Kevin Cummings wrote: > > On 03/24/2015 04:38 AM, luca paganotti wrote: > > Hi all, I'm searching help about the last eclipse-cdt update carried out > > on my fedora 20 box. > > It seems I'm not able anymore to load my existing c++ projects, nor > > create new ones. I've tried to uninstall and then reinstall all my > > eclipse environment few times. I've also tried to rollback to the > > previous yum transaction. The c perspective is absent. I've tried also > > to issue eclipse with the -clean switch. But no hope for the time being. > > The last cdt update is about eclipse-cdt 8.3.0-2 x86_64 and was > > performed on 2015-03-22. > > I also have the updated to the new eclipse-cdt, but I am *not* seeing > what you are. My old projects are available to me, and I can edit > sources files in my old projects. My eclipse files are: > > > eclipse-swt-4.3.2-3.fc20.x86_64 > > eclipse-gef-3.9.1-0.2.gitb9f2e9.fc20.noarch > > eclipse-cdt-8.3.0-2.fc20.x86_64 > > eclipse-egit-3.3.2-1.fc20.noarch > > eclipse-emf-2.9.2-1.fc20.noarch > > eclipse-rse-3.5-3.fc20.noarch > > eclipse-rpm-editor-2.2.1-1.fc20.1.noarch > > eclipse-mylyn-context-cdt-3.10.0-2.fc20.noarch > > eclipse-subclipse-1.10.5-1.fc20.noarch > > eclipse-jdt-4.3.2-3.fc20.x86_64 > > eclipse-mpc-1.2.1-0.1.git519e70b.fc20.noarch > > eclipse-mylyn-3.10.0-2.fc20.noarch > > eclipse-collabnet-merge-4.0.2-1.fc20.noarch > > eclipse-mylyn-tasks-web-3.10.0-2.fc20.noarch > > eclipse-ptp-rdt-xlc-7.0.4-1.fc20.noarch > > eclipse-oprofile-2.2.1-1.fc20.1.noarch > > eclipse-p2-discovery-4.3.1-1.fc20.noarch > > eclipse-emf-core-2.9.2-1.fc20.noarch > > eclipse-equinox-osgi-4.3.2-3.fc20.x86_64 > > eclipse-platform-4.3.2-3.fc20.x86_64 > > eclipse-changelog-2.8.3-1.fc20.1.noarch > > eclipse-dtp-1.11.2-1.fc20.noarch > > eclipse-linuxtools-2.2.1-1.fc20.1.noarch > > eclipse-rpmstubby-2.2.1-1.fc20.1.noarch > > eclipse-ecf-core-3.8.0-1.fc20.noarch > > eclipse-fedorapackager-0.4.1-8.fc20.noarch > > eclipse-mylyn-context-java-3.10.0-2.fc20.noarch > > eclipse-ptp-7.0.4-1.fc20.x86_64 > > eclipse-valgrind-2.2.1-1.fc20.1.noarch > > eclipse-pde-4.3.2-3.fc20.x86_64 > > eclipse-mylyn-tasks-bugzilla-3.10.0-2.fc20.noarch > > eclipse-pydev-3.5.0-1.fc20.noarch > > eclipse-ptp-rdt-7.0.4-1.fc20.noarch > > eclipse-mylyn-tasks-trac-3.10.0-2.fc20.noarch > > eclipse-jgit-3.3.2-1.fc20.noarch > > eclipse-cdt-parsers-8.3.0-2.fc20.x86_64 > > eclipse-packagekit-0.1.0-6.fc20.noarch > > > > Is there someone kind to help or drive me to the right source of info? > > I don't know if this is of any help, but it is another data point to > consider. > > > Thank you for any answer and forgive my italianish ... > > -- > Kevin J. Cummings > kjch...@verizon.net > cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net > cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us > Registered Linux User #1232 (http://www.linuxcounter.net/) > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: The last eclipse-cdt update has broken my c++ perspective
On 03/24/2015 04:38 AM, luca paganotti wrote: > Hi all, I'm searching help about the last eclipse-cdt update carried out > on my fedora 20 box. > It seems I'm not able anymore to load my existing c++ projects, nor > create new ones. I've tried to uninstall and then reinstall all my > eclipse environment few times. I've also tried to rollback to the > previous yum transaction. The c perspective is absent. I've tried also > to issue eclipse with the -clean switch. But no hope for the time being. > The last cdt update is about eclipse-cdt 8.3.0-2 x86_64 and was > performed on 2015-03-22. I also have the updated to the new eclipse-cdt, but I am *not* seeing what you are. My old projects are available to me, and I can edit sources files in my old projects. My eclipse files are: > eclipse-swt-4.3.2-3.fc20.x86_64 > eclipse-gef-3.9.1-0.2.gitb9f2e9.fc20.noarch > eclipse-cdt-8.3.0-2.fc20.x86_64 > eclipse-egit-3.3.2-1.fc20.noarch > eclipse-emf-2.9.2-1.fc20.noarch > eclipse-rse-3.5-3.fc20.noarch > eclipse-rpm-editor-2.2.1-1.fc20.1.noarch > eclipse-mylyn-context-cdt-3.10.0-2.fc20.noarch > eclipse-subclipse-1.10.5-1.fc20.noarch > eclipse-jdt-4.3.2-3.fc20.x86_64 > eclipse-mpc-1.2.1-0.1.git519e70b.fc20.noarch > eclipse-mylyn-3.10.0-2.fc20.noarch > eclipse-collabnet-merge-4.0.2-1.fc20.noarch > eclipse-mylyn-tasks-web-3.10.0-2.fc20.noarch > eclipse-ptp-rdt-xlc-7.0.4-1.fc20.noarch > eclipse-oprofile-2.2.1-1.fc20.1.noarch > eclipse-p2-discovery-4.3.1-1.fc20.noarch > eclipse-emf-core-2.9.2-1.fc20.noarch > eclipse-equinox-osgi-4.3.2-3.fc20.x86_64 > eclipse-platform-4.3.2-3.fc20.x86_64 > eclipse-changelog-2.8.3-1.fc20.1.noarch > eclipse-dtp-1.11.2-1.fc20.noarch > eclipse-linuxtools-2.2.1-1.fc20.1.noarch > eclipse-rpmstubby-2.2.1-1.fc20.1.noarch > eclipse-ecf-core-3.8.0-1.fc20.noarch > eclipse-fedorapackager-0.4.1-8.fc20.noarch > eclipse-mylyn-context-java-3.10.0-2.fc20.noarch > eclipse-ptp-7.0.4-1.fc20.x86_64 > eclipse-valgrind-2.2.1-1.fc20.1.noarch > eclipse-pde-4.3.2-3.fc20.x86_64 > eclipse-mylyn-tasks-bugzilla-3.10.0-2.fc20.noarch > eclipse-pydev-3.5.0-1.fc20.noarch > eclipse-ptp-rdt-7.0.4-1.fc20.noarch > eclipse-mylyn-tasks-trac-3.10.0-2.fc20.noarch > eclipse-jgit-3.3.2-1.fc20.noarch > eclipse-cdt-parsers-8.3.0-2.fc20.x86_64 > eclipse-packagekit-0.1.0-6.fc20.noarch > Is there someone kind to help or drive me to the right source of info? I don't know if this is of any help, but it is another data point to consider. > Thank you for any answer and forgive my italianish ... -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@verizon.net cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://www.linuxcounter.net/) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Does KDE do offline software updates?
On Tue, 24 Mar 2015, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2015-03-23 at 17:50 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: OK I'm going to display some total KDE ignorance here, hopefully a KDE user can answer this. Note that there's a Fedora-KDE list at https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde Hey! Thanks. I didn't know that. billo -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: calendar servers?
On 24 March 2015 at 14:51, Dave Ihnat wrote: > On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 01:04:55PM +, Ian Malone wrote: >> I've got a project I'm developing for the raspberry pi which requires >> a calendar server. ... > > You could consider using ownCloud. Among all the other services it offers > is a shared calendar. > Thanks, had given it a look a while back and thought it might be a bit heavy-duty if I just wanted a caldav facility, but it might do. The Darwin one seems it should be the most compliant, but doesn't play well with py-caldav. -- imalone http://ibmalone.blogspot.co.uk -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: calendar servers?
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 01:04:55PM +, Ian Malone wrote: > I've got a project I'm developing for the raspberry pi which requires > a calendar server. ... You could consider using ownCloud. Among all the other services it offers is a shared calendar. Cheers, -- Dave Ihnat dih...@dminet.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Does KDE do offline software updates?
On Tue, 24 Mar 2015 12:45:26 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I don't use Gnome so my understanding of this is based only on a literal > reading. It appears to say that packages are updated with a tool which > among other things causes two reboots. Obviously I know that the user > might just employ yum as I do myself (on KDE) but the description of the > GUI tool is quite specific. Which is why I asked if that's what really > happens. Call it a rhetorical question. You sound as if you're surprised that an update tool applies offline updates with the help of rebooting. It has never been entirely safe to update/upgrade with Yum. Simply because Yum does not take any precautions, such as making sure the user doesn't use a program while upgrading it, or killing and restarting services in a way it doesn't harm the runtime environment. Offline updates remove some of the pitfalls. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
calendar servers?
I've got a project I'm developing for the raspberry pi which requires a calendar server. While it will probably run on raspbian it would be handy if I could do some of the work on Fedora. Is radicale the only calendar server? It's the only one that shows up in a DNF search. They have a pretty webpage, but I'm a little put off by their "Development choices: lazy" thing, such as, "The Radicale Server assumes that the clients are perfect and that protocol violations do not exist." Under raspbian there's the Darwin Calendar server (calendarserver) though that has it's own problems in lacking TLS support. -- imalone http://ibmalone.blogspot.co.uk -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Does KDE do offline software updates?
On Tue, 2015-03-24 at 12:44 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Tue, 24 Mar 2015 11:14:46 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > You mean Gnome makes you reboot for every update? I must be > > misunderstanding what you're saying. > > Why? Would you mind explaining your thoughts? To quote the OP: On GNOME, gnome-software + packagekit + systemd work together to make the user aware of software updates. This includes any installed applications, as well as OS + kernel updates. The user clicks on Restart & Install in gnome-software, or chooses that option in the reboot/poweroff panel. The system reboots, a special systemd offline updates target is triggered, and packagekit installs all the previously downloaded rpms with a progress indicator, then reboots (again). I don't use Gnome so my understanding of this is based only on a literal reading. It appears to say that packages are updated with a tool which among other things causes two reboots. Obviously I know that the user might just employ yum as I do myself (on KDE) but the description of the GUI tool is quite specific. Which is why I asked if that's what really happens. Call it a rhetorical question. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: current laptop recommendations
On 9 January 2015 at 14:41, Andras Simon wrote: > 2015-01-09 15:03 GMT+01:00, Ian Malone : >> On 9 January 2015 at 13:54, Ranjan Maitra >> wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 9 Jan 2015 13:43:58 + Ian Malone wrote: >>> Anyone have any good suggestions for a new laptop with good Linux compatibility? My current one is about 8 years old (IIRC), not looking for anything superspecced to replaced it, just annoyances like reduced battery life and the wifi switch playing up are starting to build up (plus people have poked the screen one too many times). It's a 13.3" screen with 100GB hard drive and I guess I'd be hoping to find something similar with a maximum budget of about £500. >> >>> I like my Dell XPS 13 (2.9 lbs) with 13.3" and 1920x1080 resolution and it >>> actually came with Ubuntu (which I promptly stripped for Fedora) which >>> also meant that I did not have to pay the Windoze tax. >>> >> >> Yes, they look really nice! Was browsing them yesterday. Unfortunately >> a bit over budget as not my main computer and wont be getting loads of >> use. > > In that case, you may want to have a look at this: > http://ktgee.net/post/49423737148/thinkpad-guide > > The one I've got recently (X201 with a Core i5 CPU and 4GB RAM) for > about $200 is well supported by Fedora, and may be good enough for > what you want to use it (it certainly is for me). > Thanks for this pointer, I did go refurb in the end (a UK company called tier1online, who provided pretty good service), and got a i5 T420 (the machine EGO II mentioned). Everything seemed to work out of the box and start speed (with an SSD) on F22 beta is shockingly quick. (A clean windows install for dual boot involved an hour downloading and installing drivers, though credit to tier1, it had all the right drivers on it when it got here.) -- imalone http://ibmalone.blogspot.co.uk -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Does KDE do offline software updates?
On Tue, 24 Mar 2015 11:14:46 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > You mean Gnome makes you reboot for every update? I must be > misunderstanding what you're saying. Why? Would you mind explaining your thoughts? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: The last eclipse-cdt update has broken my c++ perspective
Hi Michael, thank you for your prompt answer. I was not even able to downgrade as my yum rollback command failed. I'm in the need to use eclipse, so I uninstalled all fedora eclipse packages and download an Eclipse IDE for c/c++ developers from the eclipse website, now I have in a temporary folder a running instance of Eclipse Mars that I used to open a little test project and it's building fine. I've also installed bodhi-client searched on the bodhi website and found the contents of your next email. I checked my yum repos' setup. I've a bunch of repos, from planetccrma to jenkins, rpmfusion etc ... but no testing or debug repos enabled. I've created a new test user. Issued yum install eclipse as root Issued yum install eclipse-cdt as root logout from my own user and then login as the new created user. Issued eclipse & and with this new user I've the C perspective back again Logout the new user and then login with my own. eclipse & --> no C perspective, not possible to create new projects I then completely removed my workspace metadata and my user eclipse setup in .eclipse in my home folder. Now I have the C perspective back again I think that in some way my own setup has been compromised, but I'm not able to say when or to tell the cause. I think it's not worth to file a bug as the problem was with my own setup of eclipse. Thank you very much for your support. Have a nice day On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Tue, 24 Mar 2015 09:38:59 +0100, luca paganotti wrote: > > > Hi all, I'm searching help about the last eclipse-cdt update carried out > on > > my fedora 20 box. > > It seems I'm not able anymore to load my existing c++ projects, nor > create > > new ones. I've tried to uninstall and then reinstall all my eclipse > > environment few times. I've also tried to rollback to the previous yum > > transaction. The c perspective is absent. I've tried also to issue > eclipse > > with the -clean switch. But no hope for the time being. The last cdt > update > > is about eclipse-cdt 8.3.0-2 x86_64 and was performed on 2015-03-22. > > > > Is there someone kind to help or drive me to the right source of info? > > > > Thank you for any answer and forgive my italianish ... > > Downgrading is a good idea and may help during trouble-shooting. > > Create a fresh user account and try to reproduce the problem there. > > Become familiar with the Fedora Updates System website > running an app called "bodhi": > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/ > > Locate the update tickets that may be the culprit. In one ticket there > can be multiple packages. Perhaps you've not downgraded all related > packages. Also watch out for new test-updates that may already fix > the problem. > > Finally, the links of the form > > http://bugz.fedoraproject.org/SOURCE-RPM-PACKAGE-NAME > > e.g. http://bugz.fedoraproject.org/eclipse-cdt > > are a very convenient to Fedora bugzilla and other infrastructure > places, such as a list of currently open problem reports. It may be > necessary to open a ticket there, especially if you can reproduce > the problem in a fresh user account. > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org > -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Does KDE do offline software updates?
On Mon, 2015-03-23 at 17:50 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > OK I'm going to display some total KDE ignorance here, hopefully a KDE > user can answer this. Note that there's a Fedora-KDE list at https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde > On GNOME, gnome-software + packagekit + systemd work together to make > the user aware of software updates. This includes any installed > applications, as well as OS + kernel updates. The user clicks on > Restart & Install in gnome-software, or chooses that option in the > reboot/poweroff panel. The system reboots, a special systemd offline > updates target is triggered, and packagekit installs all the > previously downloaded rpms with a progress indicator, then reboots > (again). You mean Gnome makes you reboot for every update? I must be misunderstanding what you're saying. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: The last eclipse-cdt update has broken my c++ perspective
On Tue, 24 Mar 2015 09:38:59 +0100, luca paganotti wrote: > The last cdt update > is about eclipse-cdt 8.3.0-2 x86_64 and was performed on 2015-03-22. That is https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-10650 submitted to updates-testing on 2014-09-10 already and only pushed into stable updates recently. Notice the feedback in there. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: The last eclipse-cdt update has broken my c++ perspective
On Tue, 24 Mar 2015 09:38:59 +0100, luca paganotti wrote: > Hi all, I'm searching help about the last eclipse-cdt update carried out on > my fedora 20 box. > It seems I'm not able anymore to load my existing c++ projects, nor create > new ones. I've tried to uninstall and then reinstall all my eclipse > environment few times. I've also tried to rollback to the previous yum > transaction. The c perspective is absent. I've tried also to issue eclipse > with the -clean switch. But no hope for the time being. The last cdt update > is about eclipse-cdt 8.3.0-2 x86_64 and was performed on 2015-03-22. > > Is there someone kind to help or drive me to the right source of info? > > Thank you for any answer and forgive my italianish ... Downgrading is a good idea and may help during trouble-shooting. Create a fresh user account and try to reproduce the problem there. Become familiar with the Fedora Updates System website running an app called "bodhi": https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/ Locate the update tickets that may be the culprit. In one ticket there can be multiple packages. Perhaps you've not downgraded all related packages. Also watch out for new test-updates that may already fix the problem. Finally, the links of the form http://bugz.fedoraproject.org/SOURCE-RPM-PACKAGE-NAME e.g. http://bugz.fedoraproject.org/eclipse-cdt are a very convenient to Fedora bugzilla and other infrastructure places, such as a list of currently open problem reports. It may be necessary to open a ticket there, especially if you can reproduce the problem in a fresh user account. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
The last eclipse-cdt update has broken my c++ perspective
Hi all, I'm searching help about the last eclipse-cdt update carried out on my fedora 20 box. It seems I'm not able anymore to load my existing c++ projects, nor create new ones. I've tried to uninstall and then reinstall all my eclipse environment few times. I've also tried to rollback to the previous yum transaction. The c perspective is absent. I've tried also to issue eclipse with the -clean switch. But no hope for the time being. The last cdt update is about eclipse-cdt 8.3.0-2 x86_64 and was performed on 2015-03-22. Is there someone kind to help or drive me to the right source of info? Thank you for any answer and forgive my italianish ... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
