Re: WiFi restoration
Tim: With close distances, it's usually signal reflections, that mess up a signal, rather than signal losses. The reflections can add together in bad ways, and cancel out, or seriously mess up the signal. g: all of which can be decreased with a parabolic reflector for each antenna. You can also get signal overload causing strange things. which a parabolic reflector might cause. ;-) This blessing is cursed... ;-) I wonder if all off-the-shelf WiFi antennas are omnidirectional. I've never actually needed to change my antenna. -- tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.19.5-100.fc20.i686 #1 SMP Mon Apr 20 20:28:39 UTC 2015 i686 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. George Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning against tyranny, not a set of instructions for supposedly democratic governments. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: WiFi restoration
On 04/29/2015 12:33 AM, Tim wrote: On Tue, 2015-04-28 at 10:01 +0200, j.witvl...@mindef.nl wrote: With only ten feet away, drop of signal because of distance isn't a serious consideration. With close distances, it's usually signal reflections, that mess up a signal, rather than signal losses. The reflections can add together in bad ways, and cancel out, or seriously mess up the signal. all of which can be decreased with a parabolic reflector for each antenna. You can also get signal overload causing strange things. which a parabolic reflector might cause. ;-) -- peace out. in a world with out fences, who needs gates. CentOS GNU/Linux 6.6 tc,hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 21: How to download files from my Galaxy S5
On 28/04/15 06:42, Jim Lewis wrote: cp: cannot open IMG_20150123_163703_512.jpg for reading: Operation not supported Not sure I have ever seen a situation like this. I can change the phone from MTP to PTP mode but then all of the files do not show up (but I can copy the files that do). I tried looking at this issue on the net but all I got was noise. Same on F20 with a Android 4.4 device, which implements only MTP (media device), whereas my old android was 2.3 and supported USB mass storage. See eg: http://www.howtogeek.com/192732/android-usb-connections-explained-mtp-ptp-and-usb-mass-storage/ With MTP, I find that I can: - view the whole directory structure - access all directories - create new folders - add new files. - retrieve / move image files and audio files. But not retrieve other file types, nor file types with invalid characters. A workaround is to rename the file (eg ES file manager) on the device and append either .jpg or .mp3. Then I can copy or move to local disk. But I seem to remember that at one stage, I could read/delete/move files using my Fedora20 machine. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: WiFi restoration
My cell phone has no problem. chromecast has no problem. Shifting seats doesn't make it go away. I'm 20 feet from the router in line of sight. I'm not in a faraday cage. There are no overlapping channels. There's no RF voodoo here. sean On 04/28/2015 02:52 AM, Tim wrote: Timothy Murphy wrote: One room in my house is at the boundary of WiFi reception, and WiFi occasionally fails there. When this happens it is nearly always restored by re-booting. Re-starting NetworkManager never does the trick, however. Is there any other step I could take, short of re-booting? I'm running Fedora-21/KDE. sean darcy: I'm about 10 feet directly across from an n wireless router. And what you describe happens 2-3 times a day. Never on my wife's windows laptop. BTW, I don't reboot, just disconnect and reconnect. You could be in a dead spot for wireless reception - reflections of signals around the room you're in merge and cancel out where your computer's antenna is located. Try moving position a bit. I can produce this sort of problem when just a couple of feet from an access point. You could be using the same WiFi channel as a neighbour, and the clash of each others signals messes up yours. Try changing your access point's channel. I've had that problem, too. Changing channels made a world of difference. I wish the interface that shows your nearby networks that you use to pick the one you wanted showed what channels were in use, rather than having to use some other debugging tool. It'd make setting up your wireless LANs a lot easier. Some access points have an automatic option for them to pick which channel to use. Mine always automatically picked the worst one to use. Logically speaking, it'd be scanning nearby networks, and avoiding channels that are in use; or, for where they're all in use, opting to re-use the channel with the weakest signal, presuming that it was the furthest one away. However, there's a fundamental flaw with this process - the access point can only determine best and worst channels for itself, your clients are in other locations, and which already-in-use channels are stronger and weaker, for them, will probably be a different set of channels than the access point's. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 21: How to download files from my Galaxy S5
On 04/27/2015 04:42 PM, Jim Lewis wrote: This worked fine on my older Android Photon Q so I expected the same on this new Galaxy S5. I plugged in the cable, found the mount point and, as my guest1 user, located the filesystem and files. I saw they were rw (read/write) and thought all was well. I tried to tar the whole thing up and noticed errors. Here's some more detail: I just plugged in my S6 and there was a notification in my system messages section ( swipe down from top) that once I tapped it, it gave me 2 options. It showed up as connected as an installer:. when I tapped it, it gave me two options to check- 1. Media device ( MTP) 2. Camera (PTP. once I selected them, all the android folders were visible to Fedora.. -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux User #367800 and new counter #561587 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: WiFi restoration
Tim: This blessing is cursed... ;-) I wonder if all off-the-shelf WiFi antennas are omnidirectional. I've never actually needed to change my antenna. g: not even. types include all sorts of; array beam, biconical, butterfly, cantenna, coaxial, corner reflector, dipole, discone, dish, helical beam, parabolic, yagi-uda beam. I'm aware of different types, we did study RF (abeit taught badly) at college. What I really meant to ask was whether you could just buy anything other than the omni style in any old computer shop you might walk into. I've seen allegedly high-gain larger omni whips, but I've never seen other patterns in a shop, but I've certainly seen things you could make, or order off the web. -- tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.19.5-100.fc20.i686 #1 SMP Mon Apr 20 20:28:39 UTC 2015 i686 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. George Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning against tyranny, not a set of instructions for supposedly democratic governments. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: SD card programing -
On 04/29/15 12:39, Rick Stevens wrote: On 04/29/2015 07:46 AM, bobgood...@wildblue.net wrote: I just received a Raspberry Pi 2b as a birthday gift. Apparently the operating system must be stored on an micro-SD card, the o/s can be downloaded but I have to get the SD card and whatever is required to program it from Fedora 21 or 22, or buy one preprogrammed. Perhaps someone with experience there can enlighten as to what I need to order to do this? I have a Raspberry Pi (B+ model). I can give some ideas. 1. I bought micro SD cards that come with an adapter that converts micro SD to regular SD. I bought the fastest SDs I could find, but you can probably go slower/cheaper. 2. My laptop has an SD card slot on it, but I also have a USB card adapter (SD/MMC/others) that works just fine. About $15 US. 3. I've tried several OSes. The most common is Raspian (a Debian-based distro). I've also used OpenELEC (essentially a purpose-built media center package) and Pidora (a Fedora 20-based package). They all come as ISOs that you simply dd to the raw SD device (NOT a partition), e.g.: dd if=pidora.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=1M 4. Just plug the micro SD into the Pi and power it up. It should boot up to the desktop (Raspian and Pidora) or the media center (OpenELEC). Hope that helps. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigital ri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - Politicians are the opposite of pickpockets because you never see - -them take their hand out of your pocket.- - -- Larry Fine - -- At this point everything helps! I will start a new section in my notes and save this. Thanks, Bob -- http://www.qrz.com/db/w2bod box10 Fedora-22/64bit Linux/XFCE -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: SD card programing -
On 04/29/2015 07:46 AM, bobgood...@wildblue.net wrote: I just received a Raspberry Pi 2b as a birthday gift. Apparently the operating system must be stored on an micro-SD card, the o/s can be downloaded but I have to get the SD card and whatever is required to program it from Fedora 21 or 22, or buy one preprogrammed. Perhaps someone with experience there can enlighten as to what I need to order to do this? I have a Raspberry Pi (B+ model). I can give some ideas. 1. I bought micro SD cards that come with an adapter that converts micro SD to regular SD. I bought the fastest SDs I could find, but you can probably go slower/cheaper. 2. My laptop has an SD card slot on it, but I also have a USB card adapter (SD/MMC/others) that works just fine. About $15 US. 3. I've tried several OSes. The most common is Raspian (a Debian-based distro). I've also used OpenELEC (essentially a purpose-built media center package) and Pidora (a Fedora 20-based package). They all come as ISOs that you simply dd to the raw SD device (NOT a partition), e.g.: dd if=pidora.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=1M 4. Just plug the micro SD into the Pi and power it up. It should boot up to the desktop (Raspian and Pidora) or the media center (OpenELEC). Hope that helps. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - Politicians are the opposite of pickpockets because you never see - -them take their hand out of your pocket.- - -- Larry Fine - -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: SD card programing -
On Wed, 2015-04-29 at 11:39 -0400, bobgood...@wildblue.net wrote: what I am really asking I guess is how do I connect the SD card to a desktop computer to install Pidora or whatever? The only thing I see that accepts the SD card is the Raspberry board. With a USB card reader. That's what I use to get photos from my digital camera. They're the sort of thing that sells for $20. -- tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.19.5-100.fc20.i686 #1 SMP Mon Apr 20 20:28:39 UTC 2015 i686 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: SD card programing -
On 04/29/2015 09:47 AM, bobgood...@wildblue.net wrote: On 04/29/15 12:39, Rick Stevens wrote: On 04/29/2015 07:46 AM, bobgood...@wildblue.net wrote: I just received a Raspberry Pi 2b as a birthday gift. Apparently the operating system must be stored on an micro-SD card, the o/s can be downloaded but I have to get the SD card and whatever is required to program it from Fedora 21 or 22, or buy one preprogrammed. Perhaps someone with experience there can enlighten as to what I need to order to do this? I have a Raspberry Pi (B+ model). I can give some ideas. 1. I bought micro SD cards that come with an adapter that converts micro SD to regular SD. I bought the fastest SDs I could find, but you can probably go slower/cheaper. 2. My laptop has an SD card slot on it, but I also have a USB card adapter (SD/MMC/others) that works just fine. About $15 US. 3. I've tried several OSes. The most common is Raspian (a Debian-based distro). I've also used OpenELEC (essentially a purpose-built media center package) and Pidora (a Fedora 20-based package). They all come as ISOs that you simply dd to the raw SD device (NOT a partition), e.g.: dd if=pidora.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=1M 4. Just plug the micro SD into the Pi and power it up. It should boot up to the desktop (Raspian and Pidora) or the media center (OpenELEC). Hope that helps. At this point everything helps! I will start a new section in my notes and save this. By the way, this isn't exactly what I have, but this is the sort of thing you need: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/insignia-usb-2-0-multiformat-memory-card-reader-black/3603026.p?id=1219092580748skuId=3603026 Just an example. There are LOTS of different ones out there. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- -Artificial Intelligence usually beats real stupidity. - -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: SD card programing -
On 04/29/15 11:19, Greg Woods wrote: On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 8:46 AM, bobgood...@wildblue.net mailto:bobgood...@wildblue.net wrote: I have to get the SD card and whatever is required to program it from Fedora 21 or 22, or buy one preprogrammed. Pretty much any old SD card would do. I have this one: http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Memory-Frustration-Free-Packaging--SDSDB-016G-AFFP/dp/B007JRB0SS/ref=sr_1_3?s=pcie=UTF8qid=1430320408sr=1-3keywords=sd+card By far the most popular OS for Rasperry Pi is Raspbian (a Debian derivative). There is a lot more third party software available for this. But there is also Pidora (a Fedora variant) which I have successfully installed and tested. I currently have an older Pi model B in service as my Bacula storage server, with an external 4TB USB drive for online backups, plus a USB enclosure that allows swapping drives to use for archival backups. Works great. Pi's have lots of uses. --Greg . Well I can see that it has to be the small micro SD type care if it's going to fit the socket and case that came with it. But what I am really asking I guess is how do I connect the SD card to a desktop computer to install Pidora or whatever? The only thing I see that accepts the SD card is the Raspberry board. Bob -- http://www.qrz.com/db/w2bod box10 Fedora-22/64bit Linux/XFCE -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: WiFi restoration
On 04/29/2015 11:01 AM, Tim wrote: Tim: This blessing is cursed... ;-) I wonder if all off-the-shelf WiFi antennas are omnidirectional. I've never actually needed to change my antenna. g: not even. types include all sorts of; array beam, biconical, butterfly, cantenna, coaxial, corner reflector, dipole, discone, dish, helical beam, parabolic, yagi-uda beam. I'm aware of different types, we did study RF (abeit taught badly) at college. What I really meant to ask was whether you could just buy anything other than the omni style in any old computer shop you might walk into. I've seen allegedly high-gain larger omni whips, but I've never seen other patterns in a shop, but I've certainly seen things you could make, or order off the web. i would not think the average mom and pop computer store would have such. not much of a demand. tho i would well imagine that they would be happy to order. not the any old computer shop you might walk into, but such are available at; http://www.newegg.com/Network-Antennas/SubCategory/ID-3373?Tid=27729 -- peace out. in a world with out fences, who needs gates. CentOS GNU/Linux 6.6 tc,hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: SD card programing -
On 04/29/15 12:07, Tim wrote: How do I connect the SD card to a desktop computer to install Pidora or whatever? The only thing I see that accepts the SD card is the Raspberry board. With a USB card reader. That's what I use to get photos from my digital camera. They're the sort of thing that sells for $20. Ok, I'll have to order one of those if someone in the house doesn't already have one. My daughter didn't seem to understand what I needed but it's a good bet that she has one, I will have to rephrase my question to her. Thanks, Bob -- http://www.qrz.com/db/w2bod box10 Fedora-22/64bit Linux/XFCE -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 21: How to download files from my Galaxy S5
On 04/27/2015 04:42 PM, Jim Lewis wrote: This worked fine on my older Android Photon Q so I expected the same on this new Galaxy S5. I plugged in the cable, found the mount point and, as my guest1 user, located the filesystem and files. I saw they were rw (read/write) and thought all was well. I tried to tar the whole thing up and noticed errors. Here's some more detail: I just plugged in my S6 and there was a notification in my system messages section ( swipe down from top) that once I tapped it, it gave me 2 options. It showed up as connected as an installer:. when I tapped it, it gave me two options to check- 1. Media device ( MTP) 2. Camera (PTP. once I selected them, all the android folders were visible to Fedora.. Paul Cartwright Registered Linux User #367800 and new counter #561587 Just once I would like something I haven't tried yet to work properly on Fedora 21 without having to fight with it first :). But, as I mentioned my older phone worked fine so maybe the problem is with this Galaxy S5. I am rather confused by the error message. Running mount shows the filesystem is rw, an ls -la shows: -rw--- 1 guest1 guest1753726 Jan 23 16:37:02 2015 IMG_20150123_163703_512.jpg but the file command says it's writable, executable, regular file, no read permission. Yes I am running as guest1 (since you can't get into the directory as root which in itself is bizarre). All I want to do is copy the damn files to my hard drive. So does anyone have any idea on what I should try next? Maybe try different mount options? Also, is this a bug in Fedora? Oops, almost forgot to answer the question. My phone also has the MTP and PTP options. It came up MTP and that let's me see every file but not copy them. PTP works and I can copy the files it shows, it just doesn't show them all. It might be showing just the working files on the phone, not the pictures and videos. Jim Lewis http://jklewis.com - My resume, Java games, and link to my Linux book are here. Website has no ads! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: SD card programing -
On 04/29/2015 11:01 AM, Dave Ihnat wrote: On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 06:53:53PM +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: IIRC the OP isn't asking about Fedora on the Pi, but how to create the SD card on a Fedora machine. As I read it, too. Just a Caveat--I've recently been doing a fair bit with the RPi, since one client asked for a slideshow server with specific behavior, and another for an Internet kiosk for their waiting rooms. In building and backing up these machines, I discovered something: 8GB is 8GB the world 'round isn't true for SD cards. In fact, two different 8GB cards (that's all these kiosk apps need) were actually about 200MB different in size. This breaks all the recommended methods for backing up or duplicating images, since all the tools--from Windows to 'dd'--use the raw size of the card for the transfer. I finally ended up working out the procedure to move data from a larger-to-smaller card. (I've documented it if anyone needs.) As long as the SD card can handle the image, it shouldn't matter as dd should quit once it's transferred the ISO image (the copy is based on the input device/file size, not the target's size). The ISO image will contain a partition table that will be stuffed onto the SD card, so yes, on a bigger SD card, parts of it might be unused. However, you can modify the partition table on it using fdisk or parted, create a new partition on the unused portion, format it and use it as another mountable filesystem. Or you could extend one of the partitions (probably the / partition) and resize2fs (or xfs_growfs or btrfs filesystem resize depending on the filesystem type) to expand into the newly acquired space. I don't see why not, but you'd need to do it on the machine you created the SD on...not on the RPi since the SD would be mounted. I bought 32GB cards so I had no issues regardless of what the ISO said. An 8G card (whether it be 8GB or 8GiB) should be plenty to handle any standard ISO (a regular DVD is only about 4.4GB). Also note that I haven't done any of the partition mangling or FS resizes...the RPi is just an experimental platform for me at the moment. When I get some time I'll tinker a bit more. I'm also evaluating nVidia's Jetson TK1 for some odd projects I have on the burner. Fun, fun, fun! -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- -Admitting you have a problem is the first step toward getting - -medicated for it. -- Jim Evarts (http://www.TopFive.com) - -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: SD card programing -
On 04/29/2015 12:07 PM, Tim wrote: On Wed, 2015-04-29 at 11:39 -0400, bobgood...@wildblue.net wrote: what I am really asking I guess is how do I connect the SD card to a desktop computer to install Pidora or whatever? The only thing I see that accepts the SD card is the Raspberry board. With a USB card reader. That's what I use to get photos from my digital camera. They're the sort of thing that sells for $20. You can get a little adapter that plugs into a USB port and has a slot for your SD card. Anywhere from a couple dollars to around $8.00 or so. See: http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8keywords=usb+sd+card+adaptortag=googhydr-20index=apshvadid=41808909905hvpos=1t1hvexid=hvnetw=ghvrand=14653596612021429357hvpone=hvptwo=hvqmt=bhvdev=cref=pd_sl_3svagmseg7_b --doug -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: SD card programing -
On Wed, 2015-04-29 at 22:59 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: On 04/29/15 22:46, bobgood...@wildblue.net wrote: I just received a Raspberry Pi 2b as a birthday gift. Apparently the operating system must be stored on an micro-SD card, the o/s can be downloaded but I have to get the SD card and whatever is required to program it from Fedora 21 or 22, or buy one preprogrammed. Perhaps someone with experience there can enlighten as to what I need to order to do this? I don't do Raspberry, but if I were I would probably start here https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM IIRC the OP isn't asking about Fedora on the Pi, but how to create the SD card on a Fedora machine. There are instructions at https://www.raspberrypi.org/help/noobs-setup/ but the card-formatting part isn't Linux-specific. See http://elinux.org/RPi_Easy_SD_Card_Setup#Flashing_the_SD_Card_using_Linux_.28including_on_a_Raspberry_Pi.21.29 for more on formatting the card. The same site has info on a Fedora version for the Pi (other distros are available), but the card formatting doesn't depend on that. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: SD card programing -
On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 06:53:53PM +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: IIRC the OP isn't asking about Fedora on the Pi, but how to create the SD card on a Fedora machine. As I read it, too. Just a Caveat--I've recently been doing a fair bit with the RPi, since one client asked for a slideshow server with specific behavior, and another for an Internet kiosk for their waiting rooms. In building and backing up these machines, I discovered something: 8GB is 8GB the world 'round isn't true for SD cards. In fact, two different 8GB cards (that's all these kiosk apps need) were actually about 200MB different in size. This breaks all the recommended methods for backing up or duplicating images, since all the tools--from Windows to 'dd'--use the raw size of the card for the transfer. I finally ended up working out the procedure to move data from a larger-to-smaller card. (I've documented it if anyone needs.) Cheers, -- Dave Ihnat dih...@dminet.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 21: How to download files from my Galaxy S5
On Wed, 2015-04-29 at 09:44 -1000, Jim Lewis wrote: All I want to do is copy the damn files to my hard drive. So does anyone have any idea on what I should try next? Maybe try different mount options? Also, is this a bug in Fedora? This has been discussed several times on this list for several years, including quite recently. If you simply want to copy files you can use rsync or airdroid apps on the phone, among others. Otherwise the simple-mtpfs package on Fedora makes the phone mountable as a FUSE filesystem. Just remember that MTP imposes several restrictions on what you can actually do (e.g. no seeking. no overwriting files etc.) which simple-mtpfs does its best to hide from you. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: SD card programing -
On 04/29/2015 10:46 AM, bobgood...@wildblue.net wrote: I just received a Raspberry Pi 2b as a birthday gift. Apparently the operating system must be stored on an micro-SD card, the o/s can be downloaded but I have to get the SD card and whatever is required to program it from Fedora 21 or 22, or buy one preprogrammed. Perhaps someone with experience there can enlighten as to what I need to order to do this? For the Pi 2b you want to get on the F22 beta which is almost done: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM I work with the Cubieboards with F22 and hopefully soon the Centos7 port. Discussions I have had indicate that they have not come out with the best armv7 board out there, not even for the money. You can go through the fedora-arm list to see what has been done with your board: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/arm -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: SD card programing -
On 29.04.2015 17:39, bobgood...@wildblue.net wrote: On 04/29/15 11:19, Greg Woods wrote: On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 8:46 AM, bobgood...@wildblue.net mailto:bobgood...@wildblue.net wrote: I have to get the SD card and whatever is required to program it from Fedora 21 or 22, or buy one preprogrammed. Pretty much any old SD card would do. I have this one: http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Memory-Frustration-Free-Packaging--SDSDB-016G-AFFP/dp/B007JRB0SS/ref=sr_1_3?s=pcie=UTF8qid=1430320408sr=1-3keywords=sd+card By far the most popular OS for Rasperry Pi is Raspbian (a Debian derivative). There is a lot more third party software available for this. But there is also Pidora (a Fedora variant) which I have successfully installed and tested. I currently have an older Pi model B in service as my Bacula storage server, with an external 4TB USB drive for online backups, plus a USB enclosure that allows swapping drives to use for archival backups. Works great. Pi's have lots of uses. --Greg . Well I can see that it has to be the small micro SD type care if it's going to fit the socket and case that came with it. But what I am really asking I guess is how do I connect the SD card to a desktop computer to install Pidora or whatever? The only thing I see that accepts the SD card is the Raspberry board. Bob https://player.vimeo.com/video/90518800 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: SD card programing -
On 04/29/2015 09:39 AM, bobgood...@wildblue.net wrote: On 04/29/15 11:19, Greg Woods wrote: On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 8:46 AM, bobgood...@wildblue.net mailto:bobgood...@wildblue.net wrote: I have to get the SD card and whatever is required to program it from Fedora 21 or 22, or buy one preprogrammed. Pretty much any old SD card would do. I have this one: http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Memory-Frustration-Free-Packaging--SDSDB-016G-AFFP/dp/B007JRB0SS/ref=sr_1_3?s=pcie=UTF8qid=1430320408sr=1-3keywords=sd+card By far the most popular OS for Rasperry Pi is Raspbian (a Debian derivative). There is a lot more third party software available for this. But there is also Pidora (a Fedora variant) which I have successfully installed and tested. I currently have an older Pi model B in service as my Bacula storage server, with an external 4TB USB drive for online backups, plus a USB enclosure that allows swapping drives to use for archival backups. Works great. Pi's have lots of uses. --Greg . Well I can see that it has to be the small micro SD type care if it's going to fit the socket and case that came with it. But what I am really asking I guess is how do I connect the SD card to a desktop computer to install Pidora or whatever? The only thing I see that accepts the SD card is the Raspberry board. Bob There are several micro SD card adapters on Ebay for very cheap price. The only thing you need to look at your fedora machine is a thin slot that is slightly more than an inch in width which accepts the Macro size SD card. So, adapters which are of the Macro SD card size, accept micro SD cards as inserts, and of course, you insert the Macro SD card adapter into the thin slot mentioned above. If you have no such slot on your Fedora Machine, you can by a USB adapter that has micro and Macro SD card slots. Again Ebay is your friend. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Tainted kernels
On 04/28/2015 04:27 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 04/28/2015 01:19 PM, foxec...@gmail.com wrote: On my laptop the file exists but it is zero bytes in length I just checked again and got a response of 0, so I probably typoed the first time. My Dell Laptop gives a 0, it has an Intel video chipset. Both of my desktop systems have nVidia chipsets in them, and both run different versions of the nVidia proprietary drivers. They return 4099 and 12289. -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@verizon.net cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://www.linuxcounter.net/) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: SD card programing -
On 04/29/15 16:29, jd1008 wrote: There are several micro SD card adapters on Ebay for very cheap price. The only thing you need to look at your fedora machine is a thin slot that is slightly more than an inch in width which accepts the Macro size SD card. So, adapters which are of the Macro SD card size, accept micro SD cards as inserts, and of course, you insert the Macro SD card adapter into the thin slot mentioned above. If you have no such slot on your Fedora Machine, you can by a USB adapter that has micro and Macro SD card slots. Again Ebay is your friend. There are no such 'thin slots' on these computers unless there's a socket on a mother board that I am not aware of, I built them all in rack style cases and Know what's there. And yes I've found some bargains on Ebay ... So it will have to be a USB card reader apparently. I've accumulated a lot of information as a result of this question and have saved most of it. Thanks to everyone, Bob -- http://www.qrz.com/db/w2bod box10 Fedora-22/64bit Linux/XFCE -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Tainted kernels
On 04/30/15 04:52, Kevin Cummings wrote: On 04/28/2015 04:27 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 04/28/2015 01:19 PM, foxec...@gmail.com wrote: On my laptop the file exists but it is zero bytes in length I just checked again and got a response of 0, so I probably typoed the first time. My Dell Laptop gives a 0, it has an Intel video chipset. Both of my desktop systems have nVidia chipsets in them, and both run different versions of the nVidia proprietary drivers. They return 4099 and 12289. And, FWIW, here are the meanings for the various bits [egreshko@meimei tainted]$ ./tainted -i [bit] [bit value] [description] 0 1 A module with a non-GPL license has been loaded, this includes modules with no license. Set by modutils = 2.4.9 and module-init-tools 1 2 A module was force loaded by insmod -f 2 4 Unsafe SMP processors: SMP with CPUs not designed for SMP 3 8 A module was forcibly unloaded from the system by rmmod -f 4 16 A hardware machine check error occurred on the system 5 32 A bad page was discovered on the system 6 64 The user has asked that the system be marked tainted. This could be because they are running software that directly modifies the hardware, or for other reasons 7 128 The system has died 8 256 The ACPI DSDT has been overridden with one supplied by the user instead of using the one provided by the hardware 9 512 A kernel warning has occurred 101024A module from drivers/staging was loaded 112048The system is working around a severe firmware bug 124096An out-of-tree module has been loaded 138192An unsigned module has been loaded in a kernel supporting module signature 1416384 A soft lockup has previously occurred on the system 1532768 The kernel has been live patched For 12289 that works out to be [egreshko@meimei tainted]$ ./tainted Taint value: 12289 [bit] [bit value] [description] 0 1 A module with a non-GPL license has been loaded, this includes modules with no license. Set by modutils = 2.4.9 and module-init-tools 124096An out-of-tree module has been loaded 138192An unsigned module has been loaded in a kernel supporting module signature -- If you can't laugh at yourself, others will gladly oblige. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: SD card programing -
Just a thought, I did some experimenting with thumbdrives and (mini/micro)-SDcards. Most laptops do not recognize SD-drives as bootable media, but when you put them into a usb-adapter they work OK. Also making a card bootable on one adapter, does not garantee That it will be bootable in a different sort of (multi slot) usb-adapter Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone Op 29 apr. 2015 om 22:57 heeft bobgood...@wildblue.net bobgood...@wildblue.net het volgende geschreven: On 04/29/15 16:29, jd1008 wrote: There are several micro SD card adapters on Ebay for very cheap price. The only thing you need to look at your fedora machine is a thin slot that is slightly more than an inch in width which accepts the Macro size SD card. So, adapters which are of the Macro SD card size, accept micro SD cards as inserts, and of course, you insert the Macro SD card adapter into the thin slot mentioned above. If you have no such slot on your Fedora Machine, you can by a USB adapter that has micro and Macro SD card slots. Again Ebay is your friend. There are no such 'thin slots' on these computers unless there's a socket on a mother board that I am not aware of, I built them all in rack style cases and Know what's there. And yes I've found some bargains on Ebay ... So it will have to be a USB card reader apparently. I've accumulated a lot of information as a result of this question and have saved most of it. Thanks to everyone, Bob -- http://www.qrz.com/db/w2bod box10 Fedora-22/64bit Linux/XFCE -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org __ Dit bericht kan informatie bevatten die niet voor u is bestemd. Indien u niet de geadresseerde bent of dit bericht abusievelijk aan u is toegezonden, wordt u verzocht dat aan de afzender te melden en het bericht te verwijderen. De Staat aanvaardt geen aansprakelijkheid voor schade, van welke aard ook, die verband houdt met risico's verbonden aan het electronisch verzenden van berichten. This message may contain information that is not intended for you. If you are not the addressee or if this message was sent to you by mistake, you are requested to inform the sender and delete the message. The State accepts no liability for damage of any kind resulting from the risks inherent in the electronic transmission of messages. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: SD card programing -
On 04/29/2015 11:52 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 04/29/2015 09:47 AM, bobgood...@wildblue.net wrote: On 04/29/15 12:39, Rick Stevens wrote: On 04/29/2015 07:46 AM, bobgood...@wildblue.net wrote: By the way, this isn't exactly what I have, but this is the sort of thing you need: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/insignia-usb-2-0-multiformat-memory-card-reader-black/3603026.p?id=1219092580748skuId=3603026 Just an example. There are LOTS of different ones out there. that one will work, so will this for less; http://www.bestbuy.com/site/gear-head-cr4200-23-in-1-usb-2-0-flash-card-reader/1306803920.p only problem is it will not work with 'contact pad' cards. -- peace out. in a world with out fences, who needs gates. CentOS GNU/Linux 6.6 tc,hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: SD card programing -
On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 11:26:23AM -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: As long as the SD card can handle the image, it shouldn't matter as dd should quit once it's transferred the ISO image (the copy is based on the input device/file size, not the target's size). But the SD card can't handle the image. As a practical matter--real-world experience--the short copies result in a non-booting image. I bought 32GB cards so I had no issues regardless of what the ISO said. It doesn't matter; if two 32GB cards, with the image on the source expanded to use the entire card, don't have either identical or larger destination raw capacity, the same problem will surface. Cheers, -- Dave Ihnat dih...@dminet.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 21: How to download files from my Galaxy S5
On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 09:49:21PM +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: This has been discussed several times on this list for several years, including quite recently. If you simply want to copy files you can use rsync or airdroid apps on the phone, among others. Otherwise the simple-mtpfs package on Fedora makes the phone mountable as a FUSE filesystem. Just remember that MTP imposes several restrictions on what you can actually do (e.g. no seeking. no overwriting files etc.) which simple-mtpfs does its best to hide from you. For example, one thing I discovered is that 'rmdir' will remove directories _with contents_, as opposed to the normal behavior. Oops. -- Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org Fedora Project Leader -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: SD card programing -
On 04/29/2015 09:05 AM, poma wrote: On 29.04.2015 17:39, bobgood...@wildblue.net wrote: On 04/29/15 11:19, Greg Woods wrote: On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 8:46 AM, bobgood...@wildblue.net mailto:bobgood...@wildblue.net wrote: I have to get the SD card and whatever is required to program it from Fedora 21 or 22, or buy one preprogrammed. Pretty much any old SD card would do. I have this one: http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Memory-Frustration-Free-Packaging--SDSDB-016G-AFFP/dp/B007JRB0SS/ref=sr_1_3?s=pcie=UTF8qid=1430320408sr=1-3keywords=sd+card By far the most popular OS for Rasperry Pi is Raspbian (a Debian derivative). There is a lot more third party software available for this. But there is also Pidora (a Fedora variant) which I have successfully installed and tested. I currently have an older Pi model B in service as my Bacula storage server, with an external 4TB USB drive for online backups, plus a USB enclosure that allows swapping drives to use for archival backups. Works great. Pi's have lots of uses. --Greg . Well I can see that it has to be the small micro SD type care if it's going to fit the socket and case that came with it. But what I am really asking I guess is how do I connect the SD card to a desktop computer to install Pidora or whatever? The only thing I see that accepts the SD card is the Raspberry board. Bob https://player.vimeo.com/video/90518800 Bob, buy a MicroSD card that comes with the adapter to convert it to a normal SD card and get that SDUSB dongle. 1. Plug the MicroSD card into its adapter. 2. Plug the SD card adapter (with MicroSD card in it) into the USB dongle. 3. Plug the dongle into your desktop computer and note which device the SD card shows up as (probably /dev/sdb, but have a look at the output of dmesg to be sure). 4. Download the ISO that you want. 5. As root, dd if=name-of-iso-file.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=1M (assuming the SD card shows up as /dev/sdb...change as needed) 6. When dd ends, unplug the USB dongle, pull out the SD card adapter, pull the MicroSD from the adapter, stick it in your RPi and power up the RPi. 7. Voila! -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - Never test for an error condition you don't know how to handle. - -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: WiFi restoration
On 04/29/2015 06:09 AM, Tim wrote: Tim: With close distances, it's usually signal reflections, that mess up a signal, rather than signal losses. The reflections can add together in bad ways, and cancel out, or seriously mess up the signal. g: all of which can be decreased with a parabolic reflector for each antenna. You can also get signal overload causing strange things. which a parabolic reflector might cause. ;-) This blessing is cursed... ;-) I wonder if all off-the-shelf WiFi antennas are omnidirectional. I've never actually needed to change my antenna. not even. types include all sorts of; array beam, biconical, butterfly, cantenna, coaxial, corner reflector, dipole, discone, dish, helical beam, parabolic, yagi-uda beam. but the are not inexpensive. home brew, aka, amateur radio, built directional antennas, covering above types, can be had at 20% and less of commercial. i have well over 100, if not over 200, bookmarks covering antennas of various frequencies and types, and how to build them. there are even pages on youtube that show how. my favorite is 'end fire' helical because it is easy to build, great gain, very directional, very good in multi array, left/right turn circular polarized, works well with omnidirectional when 'in sight'. something to remember about the 'standard' omnidirectional antenna that is supplied with most all wifi cards and routers, is the antenna if really nothing more than the proverbial rubber ducky, which is a form of helical, but 'side fires'. they are inexpensive to make, short, and do not easily break. -- peace out. in a world with out fences, who needs gates. CentOS GNU/Linux 6.6 tc,hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
SD card programing -
I just received a Raspberry Pi 2b as a birthday gift. Apparently the operating system must be stored on an micro-SD card, the o/s can be downloaded but I have to get the SD card and whatever is required to program it from Fedora 21 or 22, or buy one preprogrammed. Perhaps someone with experience there can enlighten as to what I need to order to do this? Thanks, Bob -- http://www.qrz.com/db/w2bod box10 Fedora-22/64bit Linux/XFCE -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: SD card programing -
On 04/29/2015 06:48 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: On 04/29/2015 07:00 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: Bob, buy a MicroSD card that comes with the adapter to convert it to a normal SD card and get that SDUSB dongle. 1. Plug the MicroSD card into its adapter. 2. Plug the SD card adapter (with MicroSD card in it) into the USB dongle. 3. Plug the dongle into your desktop computer and note which device the SD card shows up as (probably /dev/sdb, but have a look at the output of dmesg to be sure). 4. Download the ISO that you want. 5. As root, dd if=name-of-iso-file.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=1M (assuming the SD card shows up as /dev/sdb...change as needed) 6. When dd ends, unplug the USB dongle, pull out the SD card adapter, pull the MicroSD from the adapter, stick it in your RPi and power up the RPi. 7. Voila! Well once I knew what to ask for my daughter had a Memory Card Reader, a High Speed 55 in 1 card reader that has connectors for 5 different types of devices. Bingo! That's the device! And I think I can find an SD card in my camera I can borrow if I don't get one first, so I'm making progress there. Remember the RPi uses a micro SD card. If the thing your daughter has has a micro SD slot, you're in! If not, you'll need a microSD-SD adapter. If that's the case, then just wait and buy a micro SD that comes with the adapter. Most do. However the Raspberry project is secondary until I get this computer done. UPS delivered the new hard drive late this afternoon, it is installed and I have F22b installed on it and am in fact typing this message in Thunderbird from it although it is not completely configured as I want it. I now have two F22 systems on separate drives, can just select the drive I want to boot. The only change I've made is to groupinstall xfce-desktop. The object is to see if this system will display the iPhone text messages that I can't with the first F22 install. I guess I should buy at least a 16 gig micro SD card? What is the life expectancy of one with this use? Depends on what you're going to store on it. 16G is good enough for most of what you want to do on something like an RPi. As far as how long it'll last? About the same as any other FLASHish drive. It's only good for N write sessions before it essentially goes read-only or self-destructs (Good evening, Mr. Phelps...) If you're going to do a bunch of data storage on the beastie, I'd get a cheap USB-based hard drive and use it for that sort of thing. That's sort of what I have on the Jetson TK1--although it has an integral SATA port. I have the TK1 boot the OS off an MMC card, but all of the heavy lifting (home directories, /tmp, etc.) is on a cheap 80G 2.5 SATA laptop drive plugged into the SATA port. It's not pretty but it works and I'm not worried about running out of write cycles on the MMC while compiling code on it. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- -Artificial Intelligence usually beats real stupidity. - -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: SD card programing -
On 04/29/2015 09:48 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: On 04/29/2015 07:00 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: Bob, buy a MicroSD card that comes with the adapter to convert it to a normal SD card and get that SDUSB dongle. 1. Plug the MicroSD card into its adapter. 2. Plug the SD card adapter (with MicroSD card in it) into the USB dongle. 3. Plug the dongle into your desktop computer and note which device the SD card shows up as (probably /dev/sdb, but have a look at the output of dmesg to be sure). 4. Download the ISO that you want. 5. As root, dd if=name-of-iso-file.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=1M (assuming the SD card shows up as /dev/sdb...change as needed) 6. When dd ends, unplug the USB dongle, pull out the SD card adapter, pull the MicroSD from the adapter, stick it in your RPi and power up the RPi. 7. Voila! -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer . Well once I knew what to ask for my daughter had a Memory Card Reader, a High Speed 55 in 1 card reader that has connectors for 5 different types of devices. And I think I can find an SD card in my camera I can borrow if I don't get one first, so I'm making progress there. However the Raspberry project is secondary until I get this computer done. UPS delivered the new hard drive late this afternoon, it is installed and I have F22b installed on it and am in fact typing this message in Thunderbird from it although it is not completely configured as I want it. I now have two F22 systems on separate drives, can just select the drive I want to boot. The only change I've made is to groupinstall xfce-desktop. The object is to see if this system will display the iPhone text messages that I can't with the first F22 install. I guess I should buy at least a 16 gig micro SD card? What is the life expectancy of one with this use? I have a Microcomputer center a couple miles away, and they have mSD cards by the dozens at the checkout counters. Each comes with the SD adapter. I think I just spent $9 each for a few more 16Gb cards for my testing. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: SD card programing -
On 04/29/2015 07:00 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: Bob, buy a MicroSD card that comes with the adapter to convert it to a normal SD card and get that SDUSB dongle. 1. Plug the MicroSD card into its adapter. 2. Plug the SD card adapter (with MicroSD card in it) into the USB dongle. 3. Plug the dongle into your desktop computer and note which device the SD card shows up as (probably /dev/sdb, but have a look at the output of dmesg to be sure). 4. Download the ISO that you want. 5. As root, dd if=name-of-iso-file.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=1M (assuming the SD card shows up as /dev/sdb...change as needed) 6. When dd ends, unplug the USB dongle, pull out the SD card adapter, pull the MicroSD from the adapter, stick it in your RPi and power up the RPi. 7. Voila! -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer . Well once I knew what to ask for my daughter had a Memory Card Reader, a High Speed 55 in 1 card reader that has connectors for 5 different types of devices. And I think I can find an SD card in my camera I can borrow if I don't get one first, so I'm making progress there. However the Raspberry project is secondary until I get this computer done. UPS delivered the new hard drive late this afternoon, it is installed and I have F22b installed on it and am in fact typing this message in Thunderbird from it although it is not completely configured as I want it. I now have two F22 systems on separate drives, can just select the drive I want to boot. The only change I've made is to groupinstall xfce-desktop. The object is to see if this system will display the iPhone text messages that I can't with the first F22 install. I guess I should buy at least a 16 gig micro SD card? What is the life expectancy of one with this use? Thanks to all for the suggestions, Bob -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: SD card programing -
On 04/29/2015 07:48 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: Well once I knew what to ask for my daughter had a Memory Card Reader, a High Speed 55 in 1 card reader that has connectors for 5 different types of devices. And I think I can find an SD card in my camera I can borrow if I don't get one first, so I'm making progress there. However the Raspberry project is secondary until I get this computer done. UPS delivered the new hard drive late this afternoon, it is installed and I have F22b installed on it and am in fact typing this message in Thunderbird from it although it is not completely configured as I want it. I now have two F22 systems on separate drives, can just select the drive I want to boot. The only change I've made is to groupinstall xfce-desktop. The object is to see if this system will display the iPhone text messages that I can't with the first F22 install. I guess I should buy at least a 16 gig micro SD card? What is the life expectancy of one with this use? Thanks to all for the suggestions, Bob I have not seen any sd card that explicitly states how many writes (per block) it can sustain before a read returns bad data. There are only estimates. Even if stated, it is at least somewhat exaggerated. My best experience is with NAND flash cards. NAND cards are very pricey!! On Ebay, cheapest NAND sd card I found was http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOT-OF-2-1GB-STEC-SLSD1GBBSIU-WITH-SAMSUNG-SLC-NAND-FLASH-SD-CARD-/170889553586?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item27c9cfa6b2 and sells for $140.97 including shipping. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: SD card programing -
On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 8:46 AM, bobgood...@wildblue.net wrote: I have to get the SD card and whatever is required to program it from Fedora 21 or 22, or buy one preprogrammed. Pretty much any old SD card would do. I have this one: http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Memory-Frustration-Free-Packaging--SDSDB-016G-AFFP/dp/B007JRB0SS/ref=sr_1_3?s=pcie=UTF8qid=1430320408sr=1-3keywords=sd+card By far the most popular OS for Rasperry Pi is Raspbian (a Debian derivative). There is a lot more third party software available for this. But there is also Pidora (a Fedora variant) which I have successfully installed and tested. I currently have an older Pi model B in service as my Bacula storage server, with an external 4TB USB drive for online backups, plus a USB enclosure that allows swapping drives to use for archival backups. Works great. Pi's have lots of uses. --Greg -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
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On 04/29/15 10:59, Ed Greshko wrote: On 04/29/15 22:46,bobgood...@wildblue.net wrote: I just received a Raspberry Pi 2b as a birthday gift. Apparently the operating system must be stored on an micro-SD card, the o/s can be downloaded but I have to get the SD card and whatever is required to program it from Fedora 21 or 22, or buy one preprogrammed. Perhaps someone with experience there can enlighten me as to what I need to order to do this? I don't do Raspberry, but if I were I would probably start here https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM Notice 4.3 I had not seen that ... Thanks, Bob -- http://www.qrz.com/db/w2bod box10 Fedora-22/64bit Linux/XFCE -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
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On 04/29/15 22:46, bobgood...@wildblue.net wrote: I just received a Raspberry Pi 2b as a birthday gift. Apparently the operating system must be stored on an micro-SD card, the o/s can be downloaded but I have to get the SD card and whatever is required to program it from Fedora 21 or 22, or buy one preprogrammed. Perhaps someone with experience there can enlighten as to what I need to order to do this? I don't do Raspberry, but if I were I would probably start here https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM Notice 4.3 -- If you can't laugh at yourself, others will gladly oblige. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
