Re: RFC: Multiboot Guide
On 2015-05-31 at 13:43:42 Pete Travis wrote: Hi All, There's regularly questions here, and around the internet (ie ask.fp.o) about dual booting Fedora with Windows systems, or other Linux systems, or OSX. To address the more common questions, the Fedora Docs team has written a Multiboot Guide[1]. The guide is intended to help set up a multiboot system in a functional way, or to help get to a more functional state if needed. For the most part, we've tried not to make it intimidatingly complex, and I hope that it will aid you in most multibooting situations. As with all of Fedora's documentation, feedback from readers is crucial to ensuring the quality of the work. Please use the guide, and if you find questions unanswered or answers unclear, reply here or use the 'multiboot-guide' component of the Fedora Documentation product on https://bugzilla.redhat.com . [1] http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/22/html/Multiboot_Guide/index.html Is it available in PDF form? -- Regards Erik P. Olsen -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
moved to fedora mate
I would like to know how do I get compiz to auto start on boot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 22 KDE Spin - Arrows on windows borders
Thanks Ed, that sure solved the problem! JP On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: On 05/30/15 22:25, Javier Perez wrote: Hi How do I get back the arrows for window resizing? I can resize, but I have to guestimate if I am within the 10 to 20 pixels area where the desktop recognizes that I am trying to resize the window, not trying to do something else. It is kind of annoying not having that visual feedback My Look and Feel is Breeze and the desktop theme is Fedora tweny two I tried googling but I do not even know the search term to look for it. Go to System Settings -- Appearance--Workspace Theme--Cursor Theme. Select a different theme than Breeze and then Apply. Then select Breeze again, and Apply. Viola! -- If you can't laugh at yourself, others will gladly oblige. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- -- /\_/\ |O O| pepeb...@gmail.com Javier Perez While the night runs toward the day... m m Pepebuho watches from his high perch. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
copper
where do I find more about the copper software ? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Getting Fedora to recognize my Kindle
On 06/01/2015 04:50 AM, Todor Petkov wrote: On 29/05/2015 09:56 PM, Todor Petkov wrote: I have similar problem after upgrading to F22. My Samsung Note3 is not longer recognized, and I am using a cable, that worked before. I tried with several other phones, no indication in dmegs. I think it's related to gvfs-mtp, and I will do more tests on Monday to be sure - maybe boot from Fedora21 DVD or something like this. Update: When I plug a normal micro USB cable, the phone is not recognized. When I use the original USB cable, it's OK. I am pretty sure, that the phone worked with the normal USB cable before. maybe 'original' cable is not standard. see link below. try another device with normal cable. if you have a volt/ohm meter, battery powered continuity checker, battery/wire/lamp, check continuity of normal and 'original' usb cable. pin outs for usb to micro connector; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB#Pinouts hth. -- peace out. If Bill Gates got a dime for every time Windows crashes... ...oh, wait. He does. THAT explains it! in a world with out fences, who needs gates. CentOS GNU/Linux 6.6 tc,hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: RFC: Multiboot Guide
Pete Travis wrote: Hi All, There's regularly questions here, and around the internet (ie ask.fp.o) about dual booting Fedora with Windows systems, or other Linux systems, or OSX. To address the more common questions, the Fedora Docs team has written a Multiboot Guide[1]. ... [1] http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/22/html/Multiboot_Guide/index.html I found this very interesting and useful. Thank you. One issue I didn't see mentioned is: Booting into grub1 systems. I encountered this recently when upgrading a CentOS-6.5 system to CentOS-7 (on a relatively old BIOS machine). Although the old system was mentioned in the grub menu, attempting to boot into it caused an immediate segfault. Is it possible to boot into a system using the old grub by employing a chainloader as for Windows? If so, is this documented somewhere? -- Timothy Murphy gayleard /at/ eircom.net School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
gdm busted?
I thought I had video working on f22 via the binary nvidia drivers because I could run startx after getting them installed, but when I changed the default target from multi-user to graphical, then booted f22, the screen just keeps flashing between black and the text mode boot messages, like gdm is trying to start, crashing, then trying to start again. I'll try kdm next (I normally switch to kdm anyway, I just hadn't gotten that far yet). -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: install f22 into btrfs subvolume won't boot
Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 28 May 2015, Neal Becker sent: the rescue, which DOES work, says: linux16 /vmlinuz-0-rescue-39e9e51995d040a88bf6f0ae625ead80 root=UUID=7246327b-1905-4fe2-9b6b-b9376017264f ro rootflags=subvol=root00 rhgb quiet the default, which does NOT work, says: linux16 /vmlinuz-4.0.4-301.fc22.x86_64 root=/dev/sdb8 ro rootflags=subvol=root00 rhgb quiet LANG=en_US.UTF-8 I did see an error about not finding /dev/sdb8 - I think that's the problem. I had the same problem with prior release(s). When the computer booted from the install media, it was sda and the harddrive was sdb. Post-installation, the computer booted from the harddrive, and called it sda, but all the written configs point to sdb. Change the grub config to either point root= to sda, or do the more reliable thing, and use the same UUID code that the working rescue entry used. It's a particularly dumb fault to do with boot environments (it's well known that some BIOSs rearrange the order of devices, depending on what was booted, or which devices responded first), and those who coded the installer ought to know better than to use sdb, when there's a reliable UUID written to the hard drive. On a related note, since someone had the foresight to make a rescue entry, perhaps someone might, also, have thought to include a find the right partition set of entries. So when booting fails, a fallback is a menu with the results from something that probes the partitions, then lists all the likely bootable candidates for you, and you can pick the right one. That'd get you into a working system, without having to try and figure out the grub command line with inadequate information, and a horrible environment to work in. Just to confirm, I did edit the grub.cfg file and changed root= to point to the same UUID that worked for the 'rescue' entry, and then it did boot. There are lots of problems here. Why did anaconda screw up? Why didn't the boot put me into an environment that was more useful to diagnosing and fixing the problem? -- Those who fail to understand recursion are doomed to repeat it -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: RFC: Multiboot Guide
On Mon, 2015-06-01 at 12:32 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: Is it possible to boot into a system using the old grub by employing a chainloader as for Windows? If so, is this documented somewhere? It certainly used to be, you'd just chainload the partition with the other GRUB's bootcode in it. And just like booting Windows passes control over to what GRUB chainloads, you could chainload something else. e.g. You'd installed one OS on a drive in /dev/sda and another OS was installed in /dev/sdb. Each drive had the usual partitions on it (boot, /, home, etc.). Each drive had the bootloader in the beginning of the drive. Each drive's own /boot/grub/grub.cfg could have an entry pointing to the other drive, setting it as GRUB's root. Remember you're setting the root for GRUB, not the system root (/). My guesses would be that you might not be: (a) Setting the right partition for GRUB to try and chainload. (b) Linux's kernel line in the GRUB config isn't pointing to /boot (use the UUID, instead of /dev/sda, as drives can get renumbered when booting up in a different sequence). -- tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.19.8-100.fc20.i686 #1 SMP Tue May 12 17:42:35 UTC 2015 i686 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. George Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning against tyranny, not a set of instructions for supposedly democratic governments. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: gdm busted?
On Mon, 1 Jun 2015 07:51:21 -0400 Tom Horsley wrote: I'll try kdm next (I normally switch to kdm anyway, I just hadn't gotten that far yet). And kdm works fine - no problem logging in via the kdm login screen. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: gdm busted?
On 06/01/2015 07:51 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: I'll try kdm next (I normally switch to kdm anyway, I just hadn't gotten that far yet). -- try lightdm.. I always use it.. -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux User #367800 and new counter #561587 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: distcc only builds locally when using rpmbuild
Suvayu Ali writes:
Hi Sam,
On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 08:05:44PM -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Suvayu Ali writes:
How does rpmbulid decide how many threads to run? I think it looks at
the local machine and decides. I also recall some variable called
RPMBUILD_NCPU or something like that. That would explain why it only
uses as many threads as the local machine can handle.
Hope this helps,
Sadly, no it doesn't. As I wrote above:
ps shows the maximum number of /usr/bin/distcc /usr/bin/g++
[options]
processes running locally,
rpmbuild uses the _smp_mflags macro to pass the -j parameter to make, and I
have it correctly configured to kick off ten parallel processes, to match
the maximum number of ten processes distcc is configured (4 local, 6
remote). Yet, despite the fact that a manual build distributes the compiles
correctly, with rpmbuild distcc throttles the number of concurrent parallel
jobs that it kicks off to four, and runs them locally.
I think you misunderstood me, I wasn't clear either. I saw you set
_smp_mflags, what I mean is rpmbuild still does some magic underneath.
I.e. after you have set that flag, afaik, rpmbuild will fiddle with the
value and pass an appropriate -jn flag to Make in the regular case.
It makes this choice based on how many threads it can run locally. At
least that's what I think it does.
Okay I did some digging. This is what rpmbuild does with _smp_mflags
(output from rpmbuild --showrc).
-14: _smp_mflags%([ -z $RPM_BUILD_NCPUS ] \
RPM_BUILD_NCPUS=`/usr/bin/getconf _NPROCESSORS_ONLN`; \
ncpus_max=%{?_smp_ncpus_max}; \
if [ -n $ncpus_max ] [ $ncpus_max -gt 0 ]
[ $RPM_BUILD_NCPUS -gt $ncpus_max ]; then RPM_BUILD_NCPUS=$ncpus_max;
fi; \
if [ $RPM_BUILD_NCPUS -gt 1 ]; then echo -j$RPM_BUILD_NCPUS; fi)
-14: _smp_ncpus_max 16
I don't have the time to check the above snippet, maybe you can take a
look? Hope this time we follow each other. If this doesn't help, I'm
out of ideas :-(.
That's nice, except, as I mentioned, I override all of this nonsense in
my .rpmmacros, and replace it with a simple
%_smp_mflags -j 10
Once again: the correct number of distcc processes get started. But they
throttle each other, and only four, at a time, kick off a compile on
localhost, the configured distcc max job setting for localhosts, with the
others waiting until the earlier ones finish, before starting the real g++.
distcc does that on its own. It's configured for a maximum number of
concurrent jobs in /etc/distcc/hosts, and if more than that are started,
they throttle each other.
I believe I already explained this, but I'm having some apparent difficulty
carrying across that, for some reason, distcc ends up ignoring everything
but the localhost setting, in /etc/distcc/hosts, when it's started from
rpmbuild. That's where the problem is. Obviously rpmbuild has something to
do with it, but it's not the direct setting. rpmbuild's %_smp_mflags is
configured correctly, and it's doing it's job of kicking off make -j 10, as
it should be.
I was hoping that someone came across this glitch before, and knew the root
cause. I guess not, and I suppose I'll have to strace the whole thing, and
see if that uncovers any clues.
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Re: distcc only builds locally when using rpmbuild
Hi, On Mon, Jun 01, 2015 at 07:14:16AM -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Once again: the correct number of distcc processes get started. But they throttle each other, and only four, at a time, kick off a compile on localhost, the configured distcc max job setting for localhosts, with the others waiting until the earlier ones finish, before starting the real g++. I guess I misunderstood that part from your OP. Sorry. Good luck resolving the issue. Cheers, -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: RFC: Multiboot Guide
On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 01:43:42PM -0600, Pete Travis wrote: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/22/html/Multiboot_Guide/index.html Is it a work in progress? I see a couple of incomplete chapters: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/22/html/Multiboot_Guide/BIOS.html#BIOS-general http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/22/html/Multiboot_Guide/boot_arguments.html -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: gdm busted?
On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 7:50 AM, Max Pyziur p...@brama.com wrote: On Mon, 1 Jun 2015, Paul Cartwright wrote: On 06/01/2015 07:51 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: I'll try kdm next (I normally switch to kdm anyway, I just hadn't gotten that far yet). -- try lightdm.. I always use it.. It seems that my GDM is hosed also; I see that both gdm and lightdm are installed (per fedup); how do I make the adjustment? There's probably a tool to do it but if you don't mind doing it manually just change the symbolic link to the display manager you want: $ pwd /etc/systemd/system $ ll | grep display lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 35 Jan 20 2013 display-manager.service - /usr/lib/systemd/system/gdm.service Thanks, Richard -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: distcc only builds locally when using rpmbuild
Hi Sam,
On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 08:05:44PM -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Suvayu Ali writes:
How does rpmbulid decide how many threads to run? I think it looks at
the local machine and decides. I also recall some variable called
RPMBUILD_NCPU or something like that. That would explain why it only
uses as many threads as the local machine can handle.
Hope this helps,
Sadly, no it doesn't. As I wrote above:
ps shows the maximum number of /usr/bin/distcc /usr/bin/g++
[options]
processes running locally,
rpmbuild uses the _smp_mflags macro to pass the -j parameter to make, and I
have it correctly configured to kick off ten parallel processes, to match
the maximum number of ten processes distcc is configured (4 local, 6
remote). Yet, despite the fact that a manual build distributes the compiles
correctly, with rpmbuild distcc throttles the number of concurrent parallel
jobs that it kicks off to four, and runs them locally.
I think you misunderstood me, I wasn't clear either. I saw you set
_smp_mflags, what I mean is rpmbuild still does some magic underneath.
I.e. after you have set that flag, afaik, rpmbuild will fiddle with the
value and pass an appropriate -jn flag to Make in the regular case.
It makes this choice based on how many threads it can run locally. At
least that's what I think it does.
Okay I did some digging. This is what rpmbuild does with _smp_mflags
(output from rpmbuild --showrc).
-14: _smp_mflags%([ -z $RPM_BUILD_NCPUS ] \
RPM_BUILD_NCPUS=`/usr/bin/getconf _NPROCESSORS_ONLN`; \
ncpus_max=%{?_smp_ncpus_max}; \
if [ -n $ncpus_max ] [ $ncpus_max -gt 0 ] [
$RPM_BUILD_NCPUS -gt $ncpus_max ]; then RPM_BUILD_NCPUS=$ncpus_max; fi; \
if [ $RPM_BUILD_NCPUS -gt 1 ]; then echo -j$RPM_BUILD_NCPUS; fi)
-14: _smp_ncpus_max 16
I don't have the time to check the above snippet, maybe you can take a
look? Hope this time we follow each other. If this doesn't help, I'm
out of ideas :-(.
Cheers,
--
Suvayu
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Re: F21-F22 fedup on i386: no login screen
On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 09:18:08PM -0400, Max Pyziur wrote: Once there, I can type startx and I get Gnome 3; alas, I'm an xFce user. I would like to be able to have my F21 environment Use startxfce4. Started GNOME Display Manager Do you also have another display manager installed? Maybe they conflict? The XFCE spin uses lightdm. Maybe you can remove gdm, install and enable lightdm. It might help. Cheers, -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: gdm busted?
On Mon, 1 Jun 2015, Paul Cartwright wrote: On 06/01/2015 07:51 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: I'll try kdm next (I normally switch to kdm anyway, I just hadn't gotten that far yet). -- try lightdm.. I always use it.. It seems that my GDM is hosed also; I see that both gdm and lightdm are installed (per fedup); how do I make the adjustment? Thank you. Max Pyziur p...@brama.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: gdm busted?
On 06/01/2015 08:50 AM, Max Pyziur wrote: It seems that my GDM is hosed also; I see that both gdm and lightdm are installed (per fedup); how do I make the adjustment? Thank you. http://ask.systutorials.com/524/how-to-replace-gdm-with-lightdm-on-fedora # yum install lightdm lightdm-gtk Then, disable gdm service and make the lightdm service be started by systemd # systemctl disable gdm.service # systemctl enable lightdm.service After rebooting your Fedora Linux, lightdm should be the dm. -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux User #367800 and new counter #561587 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Getting Fedora to recognize my Kindle
On 29/05/2015 09:56 PM, Todor Petkov wrote: I have similar problem after upgrading to F22. My Samsung Note3 is not longer recognized, and I am using a cable, that worked before. I tried with several other phones, no indication in dmegs. I think it's related to gvfs-mtp, and I will do more tests on Monday to be sure - maybe boot from Fedora21 DVD or something like this. Update: When I plug a normal micro USB cable, the phone is not recognized. When I use the original USB cable, it's OK. I am pretty sure, that the phone worked with the normal USB cable before. Regards, -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: RFC: Multiboot Guide
On Mon, Jun 01, 2015 at 07:30:45AM +0200, Erik P. Olsen wrote: On 2015-05-31 at 13:43:42 Pete Travis wrote: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/22/html/Multiboot_Guide/index.html Is it available in PDF form? Same as it has always been with official Fedora docs, click on the tiny little arrow on the chapter name in the sidepanel, you will get the option. Hope this helps, -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: copper
On Mon, Jun 01, 2015 at 03:14:46AM -0400, William Biggs wrote: where do I find more about the copper software ? Maybe you are talking about Copr? https://fedorahosted.org/copr/wiki/UserDocs -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
F22 double graphical environment
Hello all, I recently updated my F21 to F22 and since the update I have 2 graphics servers running. Of course, this is not good for performance. What happens is: 1. I start the system, and get one server under c-a-F1, 2. From c-a-F2 I open a console (usually I play some music from the console). 3. Some time after starting, the current graphical session is moved to c-a-F3, c-a-F2 is still the console I opened, and c-a-F1 is a different (non-logged in) graphical server. Anyone have an idea what is going on? What information could I research to find out what is wrong? How can I get the system to start only one graphical server? Kind regards, Guus Bonnema. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F22 KDE How To Remove Software Updates Widget? (Solved)
On 30/05/15 06:07, Rex Dieter wrote: Christopher Ross wrote: In the Fedora 22 / KDE 5 task bar there is a Software Updates widget. Where is the setting to remove that? It's inappropriate for arbitrary end users to be be updating the system software on shared machines. Right click systray ^ = system tray settings = General section, under Extra Items, uncheck Software Updates Thanks, Rex. Yes, that's exactly what I wanted. Regards, Chris R. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Anybody succeful as normal user in F22 with (x)sane together with an USB scanner?
Hi all, since some days I have problems to scan by using xsane together with my CANON Lide30 USB scanner: it seems to have access problems. I have to run xsane together with sudo. Running sane-find-scanner reports access problems too, but sudo sane-find-scanner will not report such access problems. I'm running F22 since the Alpha release with all updates applied, and never had such scanner problems! Seems not to be a kernel problems because /usr/bin/simple-scan scans flawlessly! lsusb: Bus 002 Device 005: ID 04a9:220e Canon, Inc. CanoScan N1240U/LiDE 30 Bus 002 Device 004: ID 046d:c00e Logitech, Inc. M-BJ58/M-BJ69 Optical Wheel Mouse Bus 002 Device 003: ID 046d:081d Logitech, Inc. HD Webcam C510 Bus 002 Device 002: ID 1a40:0101 Terminus Technology Inc. Hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 008 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Anybody has similar problems? Kind regards Joachim Backes -- Fedora release 22 (Twenty Two) Kernel-4.0.4-303.fc22.x86_64 Joachim Backes joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de https://www-user.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
xrandr for undetected screen resolution no longer working?
Hi! I connect one of my machines to my TVs. I have noticed that since sometimes along F21 updates the specific TV resolution could not longer be activated. As it is definitely not a life threatening condition I thought another update would fix it. Apparently the problem might lay elsewhere... So I have 2 TVs (with different resolution) to test. I start with cvt, then xrandr --newmode, xrandr --addmode and then --output. At the --addmode stage the mode appears in (GNOME3) All settings, Display, monitor. Whethere I use the graphical way or the --output command the monitor remains in 1024x768. Any idea what could be happening? Thanks a lot. Fred -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F22 KDE How To Remove Software Updates Widget? (Solved)
On 06/01/15 16:52, Christopher Ross wrote: On 30/05/15 06:07, Rex Dieter wrote: Christopher Ross wrote: In the Fedora 22 / KDE 5 task bar there is a Software Updates widget. Where is the setting to remove that? It's inappropriate for arbitrary end users to be be updating the system software on shared machines. Right click systray ^ = system tray settings = General section, under Extra Items, uncheck Software Updates Thanks, Rex. Yes, that's exactly what I wanted. But, can't that same arbitrary user go back and re-check Software Updates? I thought the goal was to really keep any user from applying updates. That seems to just hide it from them and if they look around they can turn it back on. I know that what I said in my response doesn't work. I think the question remains. Is there a system wide setting to prevent users from updating without some sort of authorization. -- Sorta what I want to say when folks habitually complain about Fedora - https://youtu.be/ZArl8fTfub4 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
RE: I'm shocked, shocked!
-Original Message- From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Tom H Sent: zondag 31 mei 2015 15:23 To: Fedora Users Subject: Re: I'm shocked, shocked! On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Tom Horsley horsley1...@gmail.com wrote: To see that the predictable network name for my one and only ethernet port has changed once again. On fedora 22 eno1 is what used to be em1. That's because you've moved from one predictable scheme to another... em1 is a name assigned by biosdevname where em stands for embedded (although I've seen an ethernet on motherboard explanation) and the generic name is emport_number. The other biosdevname option is pslot_numberpport_number where the first p stands for pci. eno1 is a name assigned by udev where en stands for ethernet and o for onboard. From man systemd.link: snip -Original Message- So, if you use Ethernet connection, based on the same sort of hardware, but one located on the MOBO, one on a PCI-card and one on a USB-connector, they all got different names. That's bad. But even worse, it means that scripts designed for totally hardware agnostic configuration, now should determine where a piece of hardware is located. That's the inverse of progress I wonder if old behavior (like ETHnn) can be retrieved by NamePolicy =database HW. __ Dit bericht kan informatie bevatten die niet voor u is bestemd. Indien u niet de geadresseerde bent of dit bericht abusievelijk aan u is toegezonden, wordt u verzocht dat aan de afzender te melden en het bericht te verwijderen. De Staat aanvaardt geen aansprakelijkheid voor schade, van welke aard ook, die verband houdt met risico's verbonden aan het electronisch verzenden van berichten. This message may contain information that is not intended for you. If you are not the addressee or if this message was sent to you by mistake, you are requested to inform the sender and delete the message. The State accepts no liability for damage of any kind resulting from the risks inherent in the electronic transmission of messages. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: gdm busted?
On Mon, 1 Jun 2015, Paul Cartwright wrote: On 06/01/2015 08:50 AM, Max Pyziur wrote: It seems that my GDM is hosed also; I see that both gdm and lightdm are installed (per fedup); how do I make the adjustment? Thank you. http://ask.systutorials.com/524/how-to-replace-gdm-with-lightdm-on-fedora # yum install lightdm lightdm-gtk Then, disable gdm service and make the lightdm service be started by systemd # systemctl disable gdm.service # systemctl enable lightdm.service After rebooting your Fedora Linux, lightdm should be the dm. Thank you. This worked on my i686 Dell Inspiron 600m. Is it then fair to assume that gdm is buggy? Both of my two other Fedora machines use gdm (x64s). Since fedup worked (for the most part) on this upgrade, should I be safe and flip to lightdm? Otherwise, I might have the same problem - no login screen indicating a buggy gdm. Thank you again. Max p...@brama.com-- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: copper
yes that is what I meant I just know the name copper On Mon, 2015-06-01 at 10:09 +0200, Suvayu Ali wrote: On Mon, Jun 01, 2015 at 03:14:46AM -0400, William Biggs wrote: where do I find more about the copper software ? Maybe you are talking about Copr? https://fedorahosted.org/copr/wiki/UserDocs -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: xrandr for undetected screen resolution no longer working?
On Mon 01 Jun 2015 16:26:17 Frederic Muller wrote: Hi! I connect one of my machines to my TVs. I have noticed that since sometimes along F21 updates the specific TV resolution could not longer be activated. As it is definitely not a life threatening condition I thought another update would fix it. Apparently the problem might lay elsewhere... So I have 2 TVs (with different resolution) to test. I start with cvt, then xrandr --newmode, xrandr --addmode and then --output. You should be getting EDID back from the screen that can be used to set the mode. You should see the EDID with xrandr --verbose. It is worth looking at the dmesg output to see it the kernel had a problem with the connection. There is a patch in kernel 4.1 that can help with EDID read problems that might be what you are seeing. (Spec says 1 bytes read are good, but vendors sometimes only work with 16 bytes read as that is what Windows does). Barry -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: last updatedb
On 06/01/2015 08:56 AM, Kevin Wilson wrote: Hi, Is there a way to know when the last updatedb was performed on a system ? Regards, Kevin Maybe the timestamp on /var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db? -- Stephen Berg Systems Administrator NRL Code: 7320 Office: 228-688-5738 stephen.berg@nrlssc.navy.mil -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Nautilus not show Move to trash in some case
Il giorno dom, 31/05/2015 alle 14.20 +0200, Dario Lesca ha scritto: If the file to remove is into a folder into filesyste without user trash, the right click on this file do not show Move to trash. So, in this case, it's not possible to remove the file or folder. Some suggest? I have investigate on this my problem On my system (f22 x86_64 with Gnome), the issue It happens only after update to 22, in f21 everything worked well and, in that case, I had also the opportunity to permanently remove the files because there was the useful flag Include a Delete command that bypasses Trash. I have try install a fresh f22 on a virtual machine and in this case all work fine, the move to trash is always show if the access of files / folders is right. Then the problem occur only on my system, a Fedora periodically update via fedup from 18 to 19, 20, 21 and now 22. I have test the problem also create a new user and use it but the problem occurs also with this new user Then is a local system problem. Someone have some suggest to resolve it? Many thanks -- (inviato dal mio Linux Fedora 22 con Gnome 3.16) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: gdm busted?
Hi Just to add my 10 cents worth. After the upgrade to Fedora 22 I found that lightdm was crippled. Had to disable lightdm and enable kdm. Works fine now :) Richard Sheffield UK On 1 Jun 2015 14:12, at 14:12, Paul Cartwright pbcartwri...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/01/2015 08:50 AM, Max Pyziur wrote: It seems that my GDM is hosed also; I see that both gdm and lightdm are installed (per fedup); how do I make the adjustment? Thank you. http://ask.systutorials.com/524/how-to-replace-gdm-with-lightdm-on-fedora # yum install lightdm lightdm-gtk Then, disable gdm service and make the lightdm service be started by systemd # systemctl disable gdm.service # systemctl enable lightdm.service After rebooting your Fedora Linux, lightdm should be the dm. -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux User #367800 and new counter #561587 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
last updatedb
Hi, Is there a way to know when the last updatedb was performed on a system ? Regards, Kevin -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: gdm busted?
On 06/01/2015 09:21 AM, Richard Ibbotson wrote: Just to add my 10 cents worth. After the upgrade to Fedora 22 I found that lightdm was crippled. Had to disable lightdm and enable kdm. Works fine now :) Richard Sheffield UK I upgraded to F22 and I use lightdm.. with MATE desktop. -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux User #367800 and new counter #561587 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Fedora22 - run remote graphical program on local display
Hi, when I log from my workstation (Fedora 22) and I have problems with running firefox on remote (virtual) machines: 1) Fedora22 - When I start firefox, it says: (firefox:1345): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: The property GtkSettings:gtk-menu-images is deprecated and shouldn't be used anymore. It will be removed in a future version. (firefox:1345): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: The property GtkSettings:gtk-button-images is deprecated and shouldn't be used anymore. It will be removed in a future version. Then a black window appears and I need to press ctrl-c in the shell to kill the window, since there is no url bar, no menus, nothing. 2) Centos5: it says nothing (returns me to the shell prompt) and firefox is started on the _local_ machine (?!) 3) Centos7 - no problem so far, firefox is started there and correctly exported on the local display Can anyone point me, why it fails in cases 1 and 2? Not to mention case2 - local firefox wtf? Local ssh version: OpenSSH_6.8p1, OpenSSL 1.0.1k-fips 8 Jan 2015 server versions: case1: OpenSSH_6.8p1, OpenSSL 1.0.1k-fips 8 Jan 2015 case2: OpenSSH_6.6.1p1, OpenSSL 1.0.1e-fips 11 Feb 2013 case3: OpenSSH_4.3p2, OpenSSL 0.9.8e-fips-rhel5 01 Jul 2008 Thanks, -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora22 - run remote graphical program on local display
On 01/06/2015 05:03 PM, Todor Petkov wrote: cut My bad, the version for Centos5 is OpenSSH_4.3p2, OpenSSL 0.9.8e-fips-rhel5 01 Jul 2008. Also, I noticed something else: when I log in Centos5 as root, the display is correct, but when I log with my LDAP user, firefox is started on my computer. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: gdm busted?
On 06/01/2015 12:57 PM, Max Pyziur wrote: # systemctl disable gdm.service # systemctl enable lightdm.service After rebooting your Fedora Linux, lightdm should be the dm. Thank you. This worked on my i686 Dell Inspiron 600m. glad it worked!!! Is it then fair to assume that gdm is buggy? Both of my two other Fedora machines use gdm (x64s). Since fedup worked (for the most part) on this upgrade, should I be safe and flip to lightdm? Otherwise, I might have the same problem - no login screen indicating a buggy gdm. Thank you again. I have never had a problem running lightdm on any computer... under any OS.. you can always run those commands either way, to stop/start lightdm/gdm... -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux User #367800 and new counter #561587 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: RFC: Multiboot Guide
On Jun 1, 2015 5:32 AM, Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net wrote: Pete Travis wrote: Hi All, There's regularly questions here, and around the internet (ie ask.fp.o) about dual booting Fedora with Windows systems, or other Linux systems, or OSX. To address the more common questions, the Fedora Docs team has written a Multiboot Guide[1]. ... [1] http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/22/html/Multiboot_Guide/index.html I found this very interesting and useful. Thank you. One issue I didn't see mentioned is: Booting into grub1 systems. I encountered this recently when upgrading a CentOS-6.5 system to CentOS-7 (on a relatively old BIOS machine). Although the old system was mentioned in the grub menu, attempting to boot into it caused an immediate segfault. Is it possible to boot into a system using the old grub by employing a chainloader as for Windows? If so, is this documented somewhere? -- Timothy Murphy gayleard /at/ eircom.net School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin -- I would think that grub2 would boot el6 without chainloading, but I haven't tested that... good catch, I'll look into it. A bz ticket would help make sure the question doesn't fall off the radar, if you have time. --Pete -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Anybody succeful as normal user in F22 with (x)sane together with an USB scanner?
On 01.06.2015, Joachim Backes wrote:
Anybody has similar problems?
Could be a permission problem. You could try an udev rule to set it
accordingly. Put this in a file under /etc/udev/rules.d:
SUBSYSTEM==usb, ATTR{idVendor}==04a9, ATTR{idProduct}==220e, MODE=0666
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Re: RFC: Multiboot Guide
On Jun 1, 2015 6:12 AM, Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 01:43:42PM -0600, Pete Travis wrote: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/22/html/Multiboot_Guide/index.html Is it a work in progress? I see a couple of incomplete chapters: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/22/html/Multiboot_Guide/BIOS.html#BIOS-general http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/22/html/Multiboot_Guide/boot_arguments.html -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- It is, yes. There are some sections like those you cited, the Apple section (I don't have macbooks to play with), etc that are currently unpopulated, and I intend to add things like a samba primer for interoperating with other computers on other OSes. There's some organization to do as well. For now, I wanted to get the info out there and the feedback loop in place, as it does address a lot of common questions. --Pete -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: copper
On Mon, Jun 01, 2015 at 12:37:22PM -0400, William Biggs wrote: On Mon, 2015-06-01 at 10:09 +0200, Suvayu Ali wrote: On Mon, Jun 01, 2015 at 03:14:46AM -0400, William Biggs wrote: where do I find more about the copper software ? Maybe you are talking about Copr? https://fedorahosted.org/copr/wiki/UserDocs yes that is what I meant I just know the name copper I guess your search didn't turn up useful results since you got the spelling wrong. So, did the docs help? Fedora has a copr hosting service too[1], free to use for anyone with a FAS account (which is open to any Fedora user). However to host a copr repo on Fedora servers, it needs to be license compatible with Fedora, so no proprietary or patent encumbered packages. Hope this helps, Footnotes: [1] https://copr-fe.cloud.fedoraproject.org/ -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F22 KDE How To Remove Software Updates Widget? (Solved)
Ed Greshko wrote: On 06/01/15 16:52, Christopher Ross wrote: On 30/05/15 06:07, Rex Dieter wrote: Christopher Ross wrote: In the Fedora 22 / KDE 5 task bar there is a Software Updates widget. Where is the setting to remove that? It's inappropriate for arbitrary end users to be be updating the system software on shared machines. Right click systray ^ = system tray settings = General section, under Extra Items, uncheck Software Updates Thanks, Rex. Yes, that's exactly what I wanted. But, can't that same arbitrary user go back and re-check Software Updates? I thought the goal was to really keep any user from applying updates. That seems to just hide it from them and if they look around they can turn it back on. Yes, if you want to be rid of it completely, then remove the package: plasma-pk-updates -- rex -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F22 KDE How To Remove Software Updates Widget? (Solved)
On 06/01/2015 12:36 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: On 06/01/15 16:52, Christopher Ross wrote: On 30/05/15 06:07, Rex Dieter wrote: Christopher Ross wrote: In the Fedora 22 / KDE 5 task bar there is a Software Updates widget. Where is the setting to remove that? It's inappropriate for arbitrary end users to be be updating the system software on shared machines. Right click systray ^ = system tray settings = General section, under Extra Items, uncheck Software Updates Thanks, Rex. Yes, that's exactly what I wanted. But, can't that same arbitrary user go back and re-check Software Updates? I thought the goal was to really keep any user from applying updates. That seems to just hide it from them and if they look around they can turn it back on. Yes, if you want to be rid of it completely, then remove the package: plasma-pk-updates Not being a KDE user I don't know for sure, but even if it alerts that updates are available, a normal user can't install them unless they're members of the wheel group or they have the root password, not so? That's the way it works on XFCE IIRC. I'm the only user on my desktop machines, so I typically have a root shell open and do a yum update or dnf update from there. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 226437340 Yahoo: origrps2 - -- -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F22 KDE How To Remove Software Updates Widget? (Solved)
On 06/02/15 04:25, Rick Stevens wrote: Not being a KDE user I don't know for sure, but even if it alerts that updates are available, a normal user can't install them unless they're members of the wheel group or they have the root password, not so? That is what I thought, and what I said initially. However, 2 days after I said that updates were available and I used a non-wheel user to do the updates and it worked. Not the best of designs, IMO. -- Sorta what I want to say when folks habitually complain about Fedora - https://youtu.be/ZArl8fTfub4 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F22 KDE How To Remove Software Updates Widget? (Solved)
On 06/01/2015 02:09 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 06/02/15 04:25, Rick Stevens wrote: Not being a KDE user I don't know for sure, but even if it alerts that updates are available, a normal user can't install them unless they're members of the wheel group or they have the root password, not so? That is what I thought, and what I said initially. However, 2 days after I said that updates were available and I used a non-wheel user to do the updates and it worked. Not the best of designs, IMO. Did it at least ask you for the root password? If it didn't and you could do an update/install as a non-wheel user, then that's a HUGE security hole and I'd BZ it immediately. But double check...the user _may_ have wheel as a secondary group, e.g.: # grep wheel /etc/group | grep username -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 226437340 Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - Is that a buffer overflow or are you just happy to see me? - -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F22 KDE How To Remove Software Updates Widget? (Solved)
On 06/02/15 05:23, Rick Stevens wrote: On 06/01/2015 02:09 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 06/02/15 04:25, Rick Stevens wrote: Not being a KDE user I don't know for sure, but even if it alerts that updates are available, a normal user can't install them unless they're members of the wheel group or they have the root password, not so? That is what I thought, and what I said initially. However, 2 days after I said that updates were available and I used a non-wheel user to do the updates and it worked. Not the best of designs, IMO. Did it at least ask you for the root password? If it didn't and you could do an update/install as a non-wheel user, then that's a HUGE security hole and I'd BZ it immediately. But double check...the user _may_ have wheel as a secondary group, e.g.: # grep wheel /etc/group | grep username No prompt for root password. As I said above, I used an account which I knew not to be in the wheel group. -- Sorta what I want to say when folks habitually complain about Fedora - https://youtu.be/ZArl8fTfub4 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F22 KDE How To Remove Software Updates Widget? (Solved)
On 06/02/15 05:23, Rick Stevens wrote: Did it at least ask you for the root password? If it didn't and you could do an update/install as a non-wheel user, then that's a HUGE security hole and I'd BZ it immediately. Just checked and the good news is that a user must enter the root password to add/erase packages using the graphical tools. -- Sorta what I want to say when folks habitually complain about Fedora - https://youtu.be/ZArl8fTfub4 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
DNF: metadata_expire
dnf metadata_expire defaults to 48 hours. Expiration in updates has been reduced to six hours. Does that mean that it is pointless to check for updates within a six hour span? -- David C. Hart - South Beach http://www.slowlyboiledfrog.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F22 KDE How To Remove Software Updates Widget? (Solved)
On 06/01/2015 02:55 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 06/02/15 05:23, Rick Stevens wrote: Did it at least ask you for the root password? If it didn't and you could do an update/install as a non-wheel user, then that's a HUGE security hole and I'd BZ it immediately. Just checked and the good news is that a user must enter the root password to add/erase packages using the graphical tools. Yes, good (emphasis on the quotes) is the proper way to put it. Updates can break stuff. Any operation that could break a functioning system should require root authentication. I'd bugzilla that--probably against polkit. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 226437340 Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - Let us think the unthinkable. Let us do the undoable. Let us - - prepare to grapple with the ineffable itself, and see if we may - - not eff it up after all. - - -- Douglas Adams - -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F22 KDE How To Remove Software Updates Widget? (Solved)
On 06/02/15 06:26, Rick Stevens wrote: Yes, good (emphasis on the quotes) is the proper way to put it. Updates can break stuff. Any operation that could break a functioning system should require root authentication. I'd bugzilla that--probably against polkit. Probably a good idea to bugzilla. I'm not a GNOME user, but I need to check what it does. If I recall, it downloads updates in the background and installs on reboot. I wonder if that is true for non-wheel users as well. -- Sorta what I want to say when folks habitually complain about Fedora - https://youtu.be/ZArl8fTfub4 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: distcc only builds locally when using rpmbuild
On Mon, 01 Jun 2015 07:14:16 -0400 Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com wrote: [snip] ...for some reason, distcc ends up ignoring everything but the localhost setting, in /etc/distcc/hosts, when it's started from rpmbuild. That's where the problem is. Obviously rpmbuild has something to do with it, but it's not the direct setting. rpmbuild's %_smp_mflags is configured correctly, and it's doing it's job of kicking off make -j 10, as it should be. I was hoping that someone came across this glitch before, and knew the root cause. I guess not, and I suppose I'll have to strace the whole thing, and see if that uncovers any clues. I don't use distcc, but I have a wild guess for you. Do you have a user account on the machine where you are running the distributed compiles? Is it the same user as on the machine where you start the process? What I'm getting at is that there might not be an rpmbuild user on the remote machine, and so when it tries to fire off a job, it is rejected. Whereas, when you fire off the remote jobs as you, you have an account on that box, and so it accepts them. Maybe if you install rpmbuild on the remote machine, even though you aren't using it there, it will set up the infrastructure allowing jobs to run. Probably can do the same thing by adding rpmbuild to a group without an install, but I'm not sure which group. Or maybe it's an selinux thing that won't allow jobs to run unless they have selinux permission. You have that through your account, rpmbuild doesn't. And rpmbuild is passing rpmbuild environment, not yours. And maybe this is all hogwash. :-) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F22 KDE How To Remove Software Updates Widget? (Solved)
On Tue, 2015-06-02 at 05:36 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: No prompt for root password. As I said above, I used an account which I knew not to be in the wheel group. Not one of those cases where you'd authorised something a short time ago, and the authorisation was still hanging around? -- tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.19.8-100.fc20.i686 #1 SMP Tue May 12 17:42:35 UTC 2015 i686 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. George Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning against tyranny, not a set of instructions for supposedly democratic governments. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: what replaces mplayer on F22??
On 06/02/15 12:05, Jack Craig wrote: I wonder if you could point me to a source for adobe reader for F22 ?? wget http://ardownload.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader/unix/9.x/9.5.5/enu/AdbeRdr9.5.5-1_i486linux_enu.rpm will download it for you. Not, of course, specifically for F22 since Adobe no longer supports Reader for linux. -- Sorta what I want to say when folks habitually complain about Fedora - https://youtu.be/ZArl8fTfub4 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Anybody succeful as normal user in F22 with (x)sane together with an USB scanner?
On 06/01/2015 08:08 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote:
On 01.06.2015, Joachim Backes wrote:
Anybody has similar problems?
Could be a permission problem. You could try an udev rule to set it
accordingly. Put this in a file under /etc/udev/rules.d:
SUBSYSTEM==usb, ATTR{idVendor}==04a9, ATTR{idProduct}==220e, MODE=0666
Thank you for your answer, Heinz, but that did not help. Seems not to be
a permission problem, because (as I already mentioned) simple-scan runs
well.
sane-backends problem??
Kind regards
Joachim Backes
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error trying to enable copr
When I try to add copr repo . I type sudo dnf copr enable user/project . and When I get y I get this error . How do I get this to work Error: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/etc/yum.repos.d/_copr_user-project.repo -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: RFC: Multiboot Guide
On Mon, 1 Jun 2015 12:34:19 -0600 Pete Travis li...@petetravis.com wrote: On Jun 1, 2015 6:12 AM, Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 01:43:42PM -0600, Pete Travis wrote: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/22/html/Multiboot_Guide/index.html Is it a work in progress? I see a couple of incomplete chapters: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/22/html/Multiboot_Guide/BIOS.html#BIOS-general http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/22/html/Multiboot_Guide/boot_arguments.html -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- It is, yes. There are some sections like those you cited, the Apple section (I don't have macbooks to play with), etc that are currently unpopulated, and I intend to add things like a samba primer for interoperating with other computers on other OSes. There's some organization to do as well. For now, I wanted to get the info out there and the feedback loop in place, as it does address a lot of common questions. --Pete Thank you for the documentation. I wish I could have found something like that when I was starting out. Fred -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F22 KDE How To Remove Software Updates Widget? (Solved)
On 06/02/15 09:29, Tim wrote: On Tue, 2015-06-02 at 05:36 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: No prompt for root password. As I said above, I used an account which I knew not to be in the wheel group. Not one of those cases where you'd authorised something a short time ago, and the authorisation was still hanging around? No. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: copper
On Mon, 2015-06-01 at 20:18 +0200, Suvayu Ali wrote: On Mon, Jun 01, 2015 at 12:37:22PM -0400, William Biggs wrote: On Mon, 2015-06-01 at 10:09 +0200, Suvayu Ali wrote: On Mon, Jun 01, 2015 at 03:14:46AM -0400, William Biggs wrote: where do I find more about the copper software ? Maybe you are talking about Copr? https://fedorahosted.org/copr/wiki/UserDocs yes that is what I meant I just know the name copper I guess your search didn't turn up useful results since you got the spelling wrong. So, did the docs help? Fedora has a copr hosting service too[1], free to use for anyone with a FAS account (which is open to any Fedora user). However to host a copr repo on Fedora servers, it needs to be license compatible with Fedora, so no proprietary or patent encumbered packages. Hope this helps, Footnotes: [1] https://copr-fe.cloud.fedoraproject.org/ -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. yes that help thanks -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: what replaces mplayer on F22??
Thx Ed! I wonder if you could point me to a source for adobe reader for F22 ?? tia, jackc... On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: On 06/01/15 07:50, Jack Craig wrote: I am evaluating F22 on my netbook. I listen to a local FM radio using gnome/mplayer, eg, /bin/gmplayer http://mapleton.securewmlive.internapcdn.net/live_secure_mapleton_vitalstream_com_KPIGFM2?token=D9F1726D-1517-9CCB-5160-50332B499CE7 what replaces gmplayer in F22 ?? gmplayer comes from rpmfusion. -- Sorta what I want to say when folks complain about Fedora - https://youtu.be/ZArl8fTfub4 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Anybody succeful as normal user in F22 with (x)sane together with an USB scanner?
sort of, i used the wireless interface to my epson scanner, ...
my netbook is fairly happy w/F22 !! [?]
hth, jackc...
On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 11:08 AM, Heinz Diehl htd...@fritha.org wrote:
On 01.06.2015, Joachim Backes wrote:
Anybody has similar problems?
Could be a permission problem. You could try an udev rule to set it
accordingly. Put this in a file under /etc/udev/rules.d:
SUBSYSTEM==usb, ATTR{idVendor}==04a9, ATTR{idProduct}==220e,
MODE=0666
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RE: I'm shocked, shocked!
On Mon, 1 Jun 2015, j.witvl...@mindef.nl wrote: -Original Message- From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Tom H Sent: zondag 31 mei 2015 15:23 To: Fedora Users Subject: Re: I'm shocked, shocked! On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Tom Horsley horsley1...@gmail.com wrote: To see that the predictable network name for my one and only ethernet port has changed once again. On fedora 22 eno1 is what used to be em1. That's because you've moved from one predictable scheme to another... That is not a good enough excuse. *By design*, Fedora is a high-turnover distribution. Changing a naming scheme that security software relies on is a big deal. I'd suggest two utilities. One would record the current names and their mac addresses in a plain text file. The other would take such a file and update a configuration file to associate the names and mac addresses. The format of the file should remain constant between releases. -- Michael henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu SCSI is NOT magic. There are *fundamental technical reasons* why it is necessary to sacrifice a young goat to your SCSI chain now and then. -- John Woods -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
