Re: dracut fails to build bootable initramfs on fc22
> On Sep 10, 2015, at 3:22 PM, Alex wrote: > > Hi, > >>> I have a fc22 system that's been working fine and now for some reason >>> kernel updates result in an unbootable system. It appears to be >>> related to dracut failing to build a proper initramfs image. >>> >>> I have a default initramfs from 4.0.4-300 that works fine, but using >>> dracut to build a new initramfs during a kernel update or building it >>> manually fails. Rebooting the system only makes it to "Reached target >>> Basic System" where it just stops. >>> >>> I really have no idea how to proceed, so I'd really appreciate any >>> ideas for troubleshooting this further. >> >> In the GRUB menu, press e to edit the default boot entry. Find the >> linux16 or linuxefi line, scroll to the end and remove rhgb quiet. Add >> systemd.log_level=debug rd.shell and then either control-x or F10 to >> boot. You should get a ton more debugging information, and when >> there's a failure you'll get a shell. There you can mount some volume >> like a USB stick somewhere like /mnt or if that doesn't exist then use >> /sysroot > > I'm at the point where I have a dracut shell and have inserted a USB > stick formatted with ext2. The device is detected, but apparently no > device has been assigned to it. > > Looking in /dev, only my hard disks are there among the block devices. > I believe USB drives show up as /dev/sda* mkdir /mnt/myusbdrive mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/myusbdrive > Any idea how to mount a USB stick in dracut? Interestingly, I can't > find anything about this problem with Google. > Not sure if dracut has mount, but If you got to dracut than you should have been prompted for boot options, one if which is rescue mode (even if you did not you can use the install media to run in rescue mode). I suggest booting in that, which should give you an option to search for and load your system partition, and drop you into a suitable rescue mode in which you could issue the following commands: more /etc/fstab blkid lvdisplay If your /etc/fstab uses names vs. UUID for partitions I would change those the UUID of the partitions listed in the blkid output and reboot. At least verify that the names are the still the same used in in /etc/fstab I ran into this problem several times when I upgrading, and it’s recommended to use UUIDs, as names can change. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Looking for application to clone a disk with incremental backup
On 10 Sep 2015 at 20:08, Paul Smith wrote: Date sent: Thu, 10 Sep 2015 20:08:53 +0100 Subject:Looking for application to clone a disk with incremental backup From: Paul Smith To: Community support for Fedora users Send reply to: Community support for Fedora users > Dear All, > > Do you know of some application to clone a disk with incremental > backup? I know about clonezilla, but, unfortunately, clonezilla does > not have yet differential/incremental backup implemented. ( > http://clonezilla.org/ ) > > Thanks in advance, I've been the maintaner of the G4L disk imaging project since 2004, would see huge issues with trying to handle differential/incremental clone process. Some things that can make the process better is to clear out the unused space, since the clone process using dd copies all sectors regardless of if they have currently used data. Once did a clean install of Fedora on an 80G disk, and did a disk image, and it created a 12G image file using lzop compression. Then cleared all the partition by writing nulls to the unused space, and the image size dropped to 2.5G. On my classroom machines have Fedora 22, and Windows 7 at the moment. Have an sda8 partition, where I store and ntfsclone image of the windows 160G partition that is about 30G in size of the about 55G of used space. Takes about 15 minutes to make a new complete image, and about 12 minutes to restore. Using a USB 2 flash the process takes about 8 minutes to restore, and 4 1/2 minutes from an USB 3. NTFSCLONE is a filelevel image process, so only backs up used space. Also, make separate partition images of the Fedora partitions on the sda8 partition, and can make full disk images to external drive of the disk. Also, have a filelevel program as part of project that I added at the request of a user called fsarchiver, and it can do file level backups, so it is similar to the ntfsclone for windows. Still recommend doing a full dd type clone, but perhaps using these images as quicker process. Actually, add the g4l option as part of the regular boot process, so the windows partition can be automatically restored by just selecting the option on the grub menu. Since once loaded it is running in ram, it doesn't require a cd or usb boot disk. What size disk/partitions are you imaging, and what times is it taking. G4L uses lzop for compression, which was about twice as fast as gzip when making images, but about 10% larger image size. Uncompression speeds where almose identical. > > Paul > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org +--+ Michael D. Setzer II - Computer Science Instructor Guam Community College Computer Center mailto:mi...@kuentos.guam.net mailto:msetze...@gmail.com http://www.guam.net/home/mikes Guam - Where America's Day Begins G4L Disk Imaging Project maintainer http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l/ +--+ http://setiathome.berkeley.edu (Original) Number of Seti Units Returned: 19,471 Processing time: 32 years, 290 days, 12 hours, 58 minutes (Total Hours: 287,489) BOINC@HOME CREDITS ROSETTA 34106486.279671 | SETI61670725.217118 ABC 16613838.513356 | EINSTEIN71326221.571495 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Looking for application to clone a disk with incremental backup
On Thu, 2015-09-10 at 14:20 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 09/10/2015 02:14 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: > > Sparse file support on the backup medium is also very useful if the > > backup program supports it. If the utility has compression support, > > that's also a benefit to conserve space on the backup medium. > > My backup program uses rsync for the heavy lifting. As I back up to > a flash drive, I ended up reformatting it to ext4 to get symlinks. I > presume that anybody using an external hard drive would have it > formatted appropriately. Didn't know about BackInTime but it appears to be similar to rsnapshot except for having a GUI. OTOH I'm guessing rsnapshot is faster when the backup set is on a server rather than a local drive since it's more efficient when pulling over rsync rather than pushing to NFS or Samba. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: dracut fails to build bootable initramfs on fc22
Hi, >> I have a fc22 system that's been working fine and now for some reason >> kernel updates result in an unbootable system. It appears to be >> related to dracut failing to build a proper initramfs image. >> >> I have a default initramfs from 4.0.4-300 that works fine, but using >> dracut to build a new initramfs during a kernel update or building it >> manually fails. Rebooting the system only makes it to "Reached target >> Basic System" where it just stops. >> >> I really have no idea how to proceed, so I'd really appreciate any >> ideas for troubleshooting this further. > > In the GRUB menu, press e to edit the default boot entry. Find the > linux16 or linuxefi line, scroll to the end and remove rhgb quiet. Add > systemd.log_level=debug rd.shell and then either control-x or F10 to > boot. You should get a ton more debugging information, and when > there's a failure you'll get a shell. There you can mount some volume > like a USB stick somewhere like /mnt or if that doesn't exist then use > /sysroot I'm at the point where I have a dracut shell and have inserted a USB stick formatted with ext2. The device is detected, but apparently no device has been assigned to it. Looking in /dev, only my hard disks are there among the block devices. Any idea how to mount a USB stick in dracut? Interestingly, I can't find anything about this problem with Google. Thanks, Alex -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Looking for application to clone a disk with incremental backup
On 09/10/2015 01:40 PM, Paul Smith wrote: Thanks, Rick, for your reply. The idea of a cloning application with differential / incremental backup is not mine, but inspired on what is written at the clonezilla site: "Differential/incremental backup is not implemented yet." It's important for that conversation to define what an incremental backup is, because it can mean different things. For instance, some users might want to send only the changed blocks of a disk over a network to a remote system. In order to do that, you need a process on each side of the network which can read the disk and its remote image, communicate about each block in turn, and send/store the blocks which are changed. rsync is an implementation of that strategy. It'll save bandwidth when only a portion of the blocks have changed, but is often slower than just sending the entire file over fast networks. Right now, clonezilla uses one of a handful of filesystem dumping tools for efficient dumping of some filesystems, "dd" for other filesystems, and storage on dumb destinations like smb, nfs, or ssh(sftp?). Supporting incremental copies means adding rsync-like capabilities to all of the individual tools that clonezilla uses, or integrating all of their fileystem-reading code into clonezilla itself and implementing the incremental copy once. Either way, that's probably more engineering than all of the work that has gone into clonezilla, combined. On the other hand, some users might not care about the network bandwidth at all, but they might want the block differences themselves recorded in a separate file on the file server, so that they can have multiple images, with the possibility to restore any one of them for a point-in-time recovery. That's less work than the previous option, but it's still not simple. Unless someone with the need to do that, specifically, steps up to do the work or pay for it, I wouldn't expect such a feature to ever be implemented. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Looking for application to clone a disk with incremental backup
On 10Sep2015 21:43, Paul Smith wrote: On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 9:06 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: For incremental backups, you could do something as simple as rsync or use one of the many backup utilities around (amanda, bacula, mondorescue, etc.). My personal choice is BackInTime because it's easy for me to set up and manage, but it might not fit your needs. Thanks, Joe, for your reply. BackInTime seems to be a great backup tool -- I am going to give it a try -- , but I was looking for a cloning application (with differential /incremental backup). Had you considered using a qcow2 disc image file? Stored on whatever your external drive is. Then for an incremental, just make a new .qcow2 which uses the previous one as a base, just as one does with VM snapshots. There must be some kind of tool which will read/write to a .qcow2 as an image: you'd then just need to do a "sparse" disc copy to the new incremental .qcow2 i.e. read your source drive in blocks, read the .qcow2 in parallel, only write changed blocks to the qcwo2. Regretably (appallingly), last time I looked there was no facility to attach such an image as a block device, which would make all of this trivial (not to mention many other things). Would be happy to hear if things had improved. Cheers, Cameron Simpson -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: HD+ LED-backlit LCD screen washed out - found a temporary solution
All, Just an FYI, I created a file: /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/99-xgamma.sh made it executable, and added this content: #!/bin/bash xgamma -gamma .7 It seems that setting overall gamma to 0.7 does wonders for the display On 09/10/2015 03:06 PM, CS DBA wrote: All; So I went ahead and installed F22, no freeze issues so far. the display is somewhat better but still washed out, if I tilt the laptop screen way back closer to 180 degrees than the normal 45 degres then the screen looks great but if I tilt it as you normally do a laptop screen (screen vertical) it looks washed out. Thoughts? Thanks in advance On 09/10/2015 10:32 AM, John Pilkington wrote: On 10/09/15 17:16, CS DBA wrote: Will this fix the screen issue? I'd be a bit cautious. The KDE-fedora list isn't entirely happy with F22 at present. http://www.spinics.net/linux/fedora/fedora-kde/msg15597.html On 09/10/2015 10:02 AM, Zoltan Hoppar wrote: Sure, use Fedora 22 KDE... 2015-09-10 17:40 GMT+02:00 CS DBA : Hi All; I've just installed Fedora 21 (KDE Spin) on a new Lenovo Thinkpad T450s with a HD+ LED-backlit LCD screen with the following video card: Intel HD Graphics 5500 Fedora is running great except the screen is washed out, colors are blah and its borderline hard to read. The following driver is installed: xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.99.916-4.20141117.fc21.x86_64 Anyone have any ideas how to fix it? Thanks in advance -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Looking for application to clone a disk with incremental backup
On 09/10/2015 02:14 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: Sparse file support on the backup medium is also very useful if the backup program supports it. If the utility has compression support, that's also a benefit to conserve space on the backup medium. My backup program uses rsync for the heavy lifting. As I back up to a flash drive, I ended up reformatting it to ext4 to get symlinks. I presume that anybody using an external hard drive would have it formatted appropriately. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Looking for application to clone a disk with incremental backup
On 09/10/2015 02:04 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 09/10/2015 01:43 PM, Paul Smith wrote: Thanks, Joe, for your reply. BackInTime seems to be a great backup tool -- I am going to give it a try -- , but I was looking for a cloning application (with differential /incremental backup). Make sure that your backup media is formatted to something that has symlinks because the program uses them when possible for files that haven't changed. Not only do backups run faster, they take up a lot less space; I have about 30GB of data and 8.5 of freespace on a 16GB flashdrive right now. Sparse file support on the backup medium is also very useful if the backup program supports it. If the utility has compression support, that's also a benefit to conserve space on the backup medium. Of course, you could use something like SDFS (OpenDeDup) for the backup medium and get even greater compression without resorting to compression or sparse file support in the utility. OpenDeDup is sorta new, but it does work. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 226437340 Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, - - in five years there'd be a shortage of sand. - - -- Milton Friedman- -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: HD+ LED-backlit LCD screen washed out
All; So I went ahead and installed F22, no freeze issues so far. the display is somewhat better but still washed out, if I tilt the laptop screen way back closer to 180 degrees than the normal 45 degres then the screen looks great but if I tilt it as you normally do a laptop screen (screen vertical) it looks washed out. Thoughts? Thanks in advance On 09/10/2015 10:32 AM, John Pilkington wrote: On 10/09/15 17:16, CS DBA wrote: Will this fix the screen issue? I'd be a bit cautious. The KDE-fedora list isn't entirely happy with F22 at present. http://www.spinics.net/linux/fedora/fedora-kde/msg15597.html On 09/10/2015 10:02 AM, Zoltan Hoppar wrote: Sure, use Fedora 22 KDE... 2015-09-10 17:40 GMT+02:00 CS DBA : Hi All; I've just installed Fedora 21 (KDE Spin) on a new Lenovo Thinkpad T450s with a HD+ LED-backlit LCD screen with the following video card: Intel HD Graphics 5500 Fedora is running great except the screen is washed out, colors are blah and its borderline hard to read. The following driver is installed: xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.99.916-4.20141117.fc21.x86_64 Anyone have any ideas how to fix it? Thanks in advance -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Looking for application to clone a disk with incremental backup
On 09/10/2015 01:43 PM, Paul Smith wrote: Thanks, Joe, for your reply. BackInTime seems to be a great backup tool -- I am going to give it a try -- , but I was looking for a cloning application (with differential /incremental backup). Make sure that your backup media is formatted to something that has symlinks because the program uses them when possible for files that haven't changed. Not only do backups run faster, they take up a lot less space; I have about 30GB of data and 8.5 of freespace on a 16GB flashdrive right now. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Looking for application to clone a disk with incremental backup
On 09/10/2015 01:40 PM, Paul Smith wrote: On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 8:27 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: Do you know of some application to clone a disk with incremental backup? I know about clonezilla, but, unfortunately, clonezilla does not have yet differential/incremental backup implemented. ( http://clonezilla.org/ ) Well, sure. Cloning a drive is a totally different thing than doing backups (which are typically file-based) and I doubt a clone package will ever have incremental backup capacity. After all, a clone is a snapshot of the drive at the time the clone was done. Incremental backups are based on a full backup, then differences between the last time a backup was done and the current backup. For incremental backups, you could do something as simple as rsync or use one of the many backup utilities around (amanda, bacula, mondorescue, etc.). Thanks, Rick, for your reply. The idea of a cloning application with differential / incremental backup is not mine, but inspired on what is written at the clonezilla site: "Differential/incremental backup is not implemented yet." Ah, well then clonezilla's statement is misleading. At this shop, we use bacula and back up to a big HP storage array. We also have a TimeMachine server for the Macs, but its storage also gets saved on the HP array via bacula. At home I generally use rsync to an external drive for immediate use, and mondorescue every month for a full-boogie, "reinstall-on-bare-metal" backup. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 226437340 Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - Fear is finding a ".vbs" script in your Inbox- -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Looking for application to clone a disk with incremental backup
On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 9:06 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: >> >> For incremental backups, you could do something as simple as rsync or >> use one of the many backup utilities around (amanda, bacula, >> mondorescue, etc.). > > My personal choice is BackInTime because it's easy for me to set up and > manage, but it might not fit your needs. Thanks, Joe, for your reply. BackInTime seems to be a great backup tool -- I am going to give it a try -- , but I was looking for a cloning application (with differential /incremental backup). Paul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Looking for application to clone a disk with incremental backup
On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 8:27 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: >> >> Do you know of some application to clone a disk with incremental >> backup? I know about clonezilla, but, unfortunately, clonezilla does >> not have yet differential/incremental backup implemented. ( >> http://clonezilla.org/ ) > > Well, sure. Cloning a drive is a totally different thing than doing > backups (which are typically file-based) and I doubt a clone package > will ever have incremental backup capacity. > > After all, a clone is a snapshot of the drive at the time the clone was > done. Incremental backups are based on a full backup, then differences > between the last time a backup was done and the current backup. > > For incremental backups, you could do something as simple as rsync or > use one of the many backup utilities around (amanda, bacula, > mondorescue, etc.). Thanks, Rick, for your reply. The idea of a cloning application with differential / incremental backup is not mine, but inspired on what is written at the clonezilla site: "Differential/incremental backup is not implemented yet." Paul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Looking for application to clone a disk with incremental backup
On 09/10/2015 12:27 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: For incremental backups, you could do something as simple as rsync or use one of the many backup utilities around (amanda, bacula, mondorescue, etc.). My personal choice is BackInTime because it's easy for me to set up and manage, but it might not fit your needs. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Looking for application to clone a disk with incremental backup
"Acronis True Image" is an excellent commercial product.Can get down to the bit level of every part of a hard drive, partition or file structure, and can accomplish incremental backups, too. From: Paul Smith To: Community support for Fedora users Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 3:08 PM Subject: Looking for application to clone a disk with incremental backup Dear All, Do you know of some application to clone a disk with incremental backup? I know about clonezilla, but, unfortunately, clonezilla does not have yet differential/incremental backup implemented. ( http://clonezilla.org/ ) Thanks in advance, Paul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Looking for application to clone a disk with incremental backup
On 09/10/2015 12:08 PM, Paul Smith wrote: Dear All, Do you know of some application to clone a disk with incremental backup? I know about clonezilla, but, unfortunately, clonezilla does not have yet differential/incremental backup implemented. ( http://clonezilla.org/ ) Well, sure. Cloning a drive is a totally different thing than doing backups (which are typically file-based) and I doubt a clone package will ever have incremental backup capacity. After all, a clone is a snapshot of the drive at the time the clone was done. Incremental backups are based on a full backup, then differences between the last time a backup was done and the current backup. For incremental backups, you could do something as simple as rsync or use one of the many backup utilities around (amanda, bacula, mondorescue, etc.). -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 226437340 Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - Okay, who put a "stop payment" on my reality check?- -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Looking for application to clone a disk with incremental backup
Dear All, Do you know of some application to clone a disk with incremental backup? I know about clonezilla, but, unfortunately, clonezilla does not have yet differential/incremental backup implemented. ( http://clonezilla.org/ ) Thanks in advance, Paul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: HD+ LED-backlit LCD screen washed out
On 10/09/15 17:16, CS DBA wrote: Will this fix the screen issue? I'd be a bit cautious. The KDE-fedora list isn't entirely happy with F22 at present. http://www.spinics.net/linux/fedora/fedora-kde/msg15597.html On 09/10/2015 10:02 AM, Zoltan Hoppar wrote: Sure, use Fedora 22 KDE... 2015-09-10 17:40 GMT+02:00 CS DBA : Hi All; I've just installed Fedora 21 (KDE Spin) on a new Lenovo Thinkpad T450s with a HD+ LED-backlit LCD screen with the following video card: Intel HD Graphics 5500 Fedora is running great except the screen is washed out, colors are blah and its borderline hard to read. The following driver is installed: xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.99.916-4.20141117.fc21.x86_64 Anyone have any ideas how to fix it? Thanks in advance -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: HD+ LED-backlit LCD screen washed out
On Thu, 10 Sep 2015 09:40:40 -0600 CS DBA wrote: > Anyone have any ideas how to fix it? I run this perl script from /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/ to fix the moronic default in the Intel video driver that restricts color levels to "broadcast" standards: #!/usr/bin/perl # # First run xrandr --properties and look for the current setting # for "Broadcast RGB" on output HDMI2, then set it to Full if it # isn't already (that at least keeps the flickering to a minimum). # my $fd; my $curout=''; my $curmode=''; if (open($fd, '-|', "/bin/bash -c 'xrandr --verbose'")) { while (<$fd>) { if (/^(\S+)/) { $curout = $1; } elsif (($curout eq 'HDMI2') && (/^\s*Broadcast RGB:\s*(\S+)/)) { $curmode = $1; } } close($fd); if ($curmode ne "Full") { system('xrandr', '--output', 'HDMI2', '--set', 'Broadcast RGB', 'Full'); } } Probably 'HDMI2' isn't the output device you'll want, but once you figure out which device you do want, this may fix your problem. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: HD+ LED-backlit LCD screen washed out
Will this fix the screen issue? On 09/10/2015 10:02 AM, Zoltan Hoppar wrote: Sure, use Fedora 22 KDE... 2015-09-10 17:40 GMT+02:00 CS DBA : Hi All; I've just installed Fedora 21 (KDE Spin) on a new Lenovo Thinkpad T450s with a HD+ LED-backlit LCD screen with the following video card: Intel HD Graphics 5500 Fedora is running great except the screen is washed out, colors are blah and its borderline hard to read. The following driver is installed: xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.99.916-4.20141117.fc21.x86_64 Anyone have any ideas how to fix it? Thanks in advance -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: HD+ LED-backlit LCD screen washed out
Sure, use Fedora 22 KDE... 2015-09-10 17:40 GMT+02:00 CS DBA : > Hi All; > > I've just installed Fedora 21 (KDE Spin) on a new Lenovo Thinkpad T450s with > a > HD+ LED-backlit LCD screen with the following video card: > > Intel HD Graphics 5500 > > Fedora is running great except the screen is washed out, colors are blah and > its borderline hard to read. > > The following driver is installed: > > xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.99.916-4.20141117.fc21.x86_64 > > > Anyone have any ideas how to fix it? > > Thanks in advance > > > > > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- PGP: 06853DF7 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
HD+ LED-backlit LCD screen washed out
Hi All; I've just installed Fedora 21 (KDE Spin) on a new Lenovo Thinkpad T450s with a HD+ LED-backlit LCD screen with the following video card: Intel HD Graphics 5500 Fedora is running great except the screen is washed out, colors are blah and its borderline hard to read. The following driver is installed: xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.99.916-4.20141117.fc21.x86_64 Anyone have any ideas how to fix it? Thanks in advance -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
solved: Recreating SMB printer -> PDF -> input program
On Thursday 10 September 2015 15:12:56 Gary Stainburn wrote: > On Thursday 10 September 2015 13:11:14 Ed Greshko wrote: > > > 1) the printer is not storing the file in the directory specified. I > > > set up the connection as cups-pdf:/var/spool/cups-pdf/created but it > > > stored the file in /root/Desktop/ > > > > Are you saying that in /etc/cups/cups-pdf.conf you changed the default > > > > Out ${DESKTOP} (which on my system causes the pdf to be placed on > > the calling user's Desktop) to > > Out /var/spool/cups-pdf/created ? > > > > And then restarted the cups service > > No, I added the path to the connection field in system-config-printers as > per the web page I was following. > > I've now updated the config as you suggested. I now have the line > > OUT /var/spool/cups-pdf/created > > however, when I did a test print it put the file as > > /var/spool/cups-pdf/root/job_4281-Test_Page.pdf > > (I turned on tagging too as the eventual use of this will see people all > printing the same named report For some reason this has now fixed itself and is now working as expected. > > > > 2) I can't see any method of being able to trigger a program to handle > > > the newly created file. > > > > How did you see this working? Somehow click on a file and be able to > > send it to the PDF print queue and then fed to an email client? > > Once Samba had finished receiving the file it called the command > smb_to_tcards script which then the required processing. This is what I > want to recreate. There is a cups-pdf.conf entry that lets me what what I want PostProcessing /usr/local/bin/cups_post_processing which calls the script with the name of the file just created and the name of the user that created it. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Recreating SMB printer -> PDF -> input program
On 09/10/15 22:30, Ed Greshko wrote: > That is odd > > I just changed my Out phrase from > > Out ${DESKTOP} > to > Out /var/spool/cups-pdf/created > > did a systemctl restart cups.service > > and printed a test page from "System Settings" of KDE as myself and it worked > as expected. > > [root@meimei created]# pwd > /var/spool/cups-pdf/created > > [root@meimei created]# ll > total 128 > -rw---. 1 egreshko egreshko 128993 Sep 10 22:24 Test_Page.pdf Oh, of course the problem you will run into is that the first person to print will own the directory /var/spool/cups-pdf/created and that may cause problems for others when they try to use the cups-pdf printer. -- It seems most people that say they are "done talking about it" never really are until given the last word. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Recreating SMB printer -> PDF -> input program
On 09/10/15 22:12, Gary Stainburn wrote: > No, I added the path to the connection field in system-config-printers as per > the web page I was following. > > I've now updated the config as you suggested. I now have the line > > OUT /var/spool/cups-pdf/created > > however, when I did a test print it put the file as > > /var/spool/cups-pdf/root/job_4281-Test_Page.pdf > > (I turned on tagging too as the eventual use of this will see people all > printing the same named report That is odd I just changed my Out phrase from Out ${DESKTOP} to Out /var/spool/cups-pdf/created did a systemctl restart cups.service and printed a test page from "System Settings" of KDE as myself and it worked as expected. [root@meimei created]# pwd /var/spool/cups-pdf/created [root@meimei created]# ll total 128 -rw---. 1 egreshko egreshko 128993 Sep 10 22:24 Test_Page.pdf > >> > >>> > > 2) I can't see any method of being able to trigger a program to handle >>> > > the newly created file. >> > >> > How did you see this working? Somehow click on a file and be able to send >> > it to the PDF print queue and then fed to an email client? > The old smb.conf section used to look like: > > [t-cards] > comment = T-Cards document library submissions > path = /var/spool/t-cards > browseable = yes > public = yes > guest ok = yes > writeable = no > printable = yes > users = gary > force user = gary > force group = gary > valid users = gary > print command > = /usr/bin/smb_to_t-cards '/var/spool/t-cards/' '%f' '%J' '%m' '%s' '%p' '%c' > '%z' > > Once Samba had finished receiving the file it called the command > smb_to_tcards > script which then the required processing. This is what I want to recreate. Don't know anything about samba, sorry. -- It seems most people that say they are "done talking about it" never really are until given the last word. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Recreating SMB printer -> PDF -> input program
On Thursday 10 September 2015 13:11:14 Ed Greshko wrote: > > > > 1) the printer is not storing the file in the directory specified. I set > > up the connection as cups-pdf:/var/spool/cups-pdf/created but it stored > > the file in /root/Desktop/ > > Are you saying that in /etc/cups/cups-pdf.conf you changed the default > > Out ${DESKTOP} (which on my system causes the pdf to be placed on the > calling user's Desktop) to > Out /var/spool/cups-pdf/created ? > > And then restarted the cups service No, I added the path to the connection field in system-config-printers as per the web page I was following. I've now updated the config as you suggested. I now have the line OUT /var/spool/cups-pdf/created however, when I did a test print it put the file as /var/spool/cups-pdf/root/job_4281-Test_Page.pdf (I turned on tagging too as the eventual use of this will see people all printing the same named report > > > 2) I can't see any method of being able to trigger a program to handle > > the newly created file. > > How did you see this working? Somehow click on a file and be able to send > it to the PDF print queue and then fed to an email client? The old smb.conf section used to look like: [t-cards] comment = T-Cards document library submissions path = /var/spool/t-cards browseable = yes public = yes guest ok = yes writeable = no printable = yes users = gary force user = gary force group = gary valid users = gary print command = /usr/bin/smb_to_t-cards '/var/spool/t-cards/' '%f' '%J' '%m' '%s' '%p' '%c' '%z' Once Samba had finished receiving the file it called the command smb_to_tcards script which then the required processing. This is what I want to recreate. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Recreating SMB printer -> PDF -> input program
On 09/10/15 19:20, Gary Stainburn wrote: > Back in the good old days (F9) I could set up a dummy SMB printer which would > accept the file and then call a program to deal with it. I used this with > Apple PS drivers on Windows PC's to create PDF files and email them back to > the user. These were back in the days before windows PDF printe drivers such > as CutePDF. > > I'm now looking to re-create this on a more modern Fedora box (19, or 21 > depending which box I use). I've installed CUPS-PDF and configured a virtual > printer. However, I have two problems: > > 1) the printer is not storing the file in the directory specified. I set up > the connection as cups-pdf:/var/spool/cups-pdf/created but it stored the file > in /root/Desktop/ Are you saying that in /etc/cups/cups-pdf.conf you changed the default Out ${DESKTOP} (which on my system causes the pdf to be placed on the calling user's Desktop) to Out /var/spool/cups-pdf/created ? And then restarted the cups service > 2) I can't see any method of being able to trigger a program to handle the > newly created file. How did you see this working? Somehow click on a file and be able to send it to the PDF print queue and then fed to an email client? -- It seems most people that say they are "done talking about it" never really are until given the last word. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Recreating SMB printer -> PDF -> input program
Back in the good old days (F9) I could set up a dummy SMB printer which would accept the file and then call a program to deal with it. I used this with Apple PS drivers on Windows PC's to create PDF files and email them back to the user. These were back in the days before windows PDF printe drivers such as CutePDF. I'm now looking to re-create this on a more modern Fedora box (19, or 21 depending which box I use). I've installed CUPS-PDF and configured a virtual printer. However, I have two problems: 1) the printer is not storing the file in the directory specified. I set up the connection as cups-pdf:/var/spool/cups-pdf/created but it stored the file in /root/Desktop/ 2) I can't see any method of being able to trigger a program to handle the newly created file. Can anyone suggest what I need to do to sort these problems, or to suggest an alternative. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: NTP synchronized: no
On 10/09/15 00:01, Shaheen Bakhtiar wrote: On Sep 9, 2015, at 3:47 PM, John Pilkington wrote: On 09/09/15 23:43, Ed Greshko wrote: On 09/10/15 06:18, John Pilkington wrote: ... and (on my SL7 box) # tcpdump port 123 shows the outgoing probe and the response, for calculation of the transit time: 23:01:55.706587 IP HP_Box.home.ntp > vpn.webersheim.de.ntp: NTPv3, Client, length 48 23:01:55.741872 IP vpn.webersheim.de.ntp > HP_Box.home.ntp: NTPv3, Server, length 48 23:09:18.187249 IP HP_Box.home.ntp > 213.145.129.29.ntp: NTPv3, Client, length 48 23:09:18.323093 IP 213.145.129.29.ntp > HP_Box.home.ntp: NTPv3, Server, length 48 23:12:00.892883 IP HP_Box.home.ntp > srv02.privatcloud.dk.ntp: NTPv3, Client, length 48 23:12:00.912962 IP srv02.privatcloud.dk.ntp > HP_Box.home.ntp: NTPv3, Server, length 48 Nice to know Yet you really should consider trimming. Otherwise you'll start to prove top-posters right. :-) :-) Yes: I wanted to show the contrast with the non-working log above, but should have trimmed the rest. Top posting is the only way to go :P But that’s for a late night drunken argument on IRC :P For now I can validate that yes, indeed simply opening port 123 on the firewall was not enough (in fact, it’s not needed at all, i’ve subsequently removed it from iptables, and will do so from the ACL when I get back to the office). It looks like there has to be a stateful inspection of the packet going out, so that the NTP pool can respond to the client back on the same port, through the firewall. This most likely works for home and small business users as their routers are stateful. But it has to be setup for corporate routers, in my case with the commands I mentioned (and re-attached to the bottom of this email :) You can clearly see that the NTP pool is sending back a packet from port 123 (ntp) back to the same un-privileged port it received the packet from. The only reason to open port 123 inbound would be to act as a ntp server to other clients. [root@www tripwire]# systemctl restart chronyd [root@www tripwire]# tcpdump port 123 tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode listening on enp14s0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 262144 bytes 15:49:11.146312 IP 66-96-98-9.ccup.irmt.uplogon.net.ntp > www.inksystemsinc.com.50032: NTPv4, Server, length 48 15:49:11.282909 IP www.inksystemsinc.com.33805 > palpatine.steven-mcdonald.id.au.ntp: NTPv4, Client, length 48 15:49:11.295301 IP palpatine.steven-mcdonald.id.au.ntp > www.inksystemsinc.com.33805: NTPv4, Server, length 48 15:49:12.154596 IP www.inksystemsinc.com.37921 > cheri.shyou.org.ntp: NTPv4, Client, length 48 15:49:12.199266 IP cheri.shyou.org.ntp > www.inksystemsinc.com.37921: NTPv4, Server, length 48 15:49:12.355839 IP www.inksystemsinc.com.36254 > 23.99.222.162.ntp: NTPv4, Client, length 48 15:49:12.405257 IP 23.99.222.162.ntp > www.inksystemsinc.com.36254: NTPv3, Server, length 48 15:49:13.165008 IP www.inksystemsinc.com.45016 > 66-96-98-9.ccup.irmt.uplogon.net.ntp: NTPv4, Client, length 48 15:49:13.233225 IP 66-96-98-9.ccup.irmt.uplogon.net.ntp > www.inksystemsinc.com.45016: NTPv4, Server, length 48 15:49:13.366453 IP www.inksystemsinc.com.37220 > palpatine.steven-mcdonald.id.au.ntp: NTPv4, Client, length 48 15:49:13.378228 IP palpatine.steven-mcdonald.id.au.ntp > www.inksystemsinc.com.37220: NTPv4, Server, length 48 15:49:14.204110 IP www.inksystemsinc.com.44675 > cheri.shyou.org.ntp: NTPv4, Client, length 48 15:49:14.249188 IP cheri.shyou.org.ntp > www.inksystemsinc.com.44675: NTPv4, Server, length 48 15:49:14.432249 IP www.inksystemsinc.com.54356 > 23.99.222.162.ntp: NTPv4, Client, length 48 15:49:14.481175 IP 23.99.222.162.ntp > www.inksystemsinc.com.54356: NTPv3, Server, length 48 15:49:15.241817 IP www.inksystemsinc.com.50570 > 66-96-98-9.ccup.irmt.uplogon.net.ntp: NTPv4, Client, length 48 15:49:15.310147 IP 66-96-98-9.ccup.irmt.uplogon.net.ntp > www.inksystemsinc.com.50570: NTPv4, Server, length 48 15:49:15.445005 IP www.inksystemsinc.com.50433 > palpatine.steven-mcdonald.id.au.ntp: NTPv4, Client, length 48 15:49:15.457139 IP palpatine.steven-mcdonald.id.au.ntp > www.inksystemsinc.com.50433: NTPv4, Server, length 48 15:49:16.285339 IP www.inksystemsinc.com.60738 > cheri.shyou.org.ntp: NTPv4, Client, length 48 15:49:16.330519 IP cheri.shyou.org.ntp > www.inksystemsinc.com.60738: NTPv4, Server, length 48 15:49:16.489066 IP www.inksystemsinc.com.38469 > 23.99.222.162.ntp: NTPv4, Client, length 48 15:49:16.537935 IP 23.99.222.162.ntp > www.inksystemsinc.com.38469: NTPv3, Server, length 48 15:49:17.348502 IP www.inksystemsinc.com.51116 > 66-96-98-9.ccup.irmt.uplogon.net.ntp: NTPv4, Client, length 48 15:49:17.418904 IP 66-96-98-9.ccup.irmt.uplogon.net.ntp > www.inksystemsinc.com.51116: NTPv4, Server, length 48 15:49:17.549840 IP www.inksystemsinc.com.59677 > palpatine.steven-mcdonald.id.au.ntp: NTPv4, Client, length 48 15:49:17.561896 IP palpati
Re: After a power cut my machine cannot boot
On Wed, 2015-09-09 at 21:11 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Paul Smith writes: > > > Is there something, apart buying a UPS, that one can do in order to > > minimize the severity of the damage that a power outage can cause? > > A UPS, paired with auto-shutdown software is the best possible > defense > against damage due to unexpected power loss. But that's merely a > formality, > since apcupsd or nut should be able to support most retail UPSes you > can buy > off the shelf. > > I've never had filesystem damage in ~20 years I've been running off > UPSes. I > usually have a power failure 1-2 times a year. Each time my UPSes > gave me > sufficient time to log in to every server, and bring it down. > > Even the few times one of them turned out to have a weak battery it > still > had enough juice for the autoshutdown to kick in immediately, and > bring the > server down all by itself, without waiting for me. > > The money I've spent on all my UPSes has paid for itself over, and > over > again. I agree. I lived in South America for many years, where power was unreliable (not just failures but brownouts and voltage variations) and a UPS was essential. The one I had for several years wasn't well supported on Linux but I used a journal and avoided serious problems. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: After a power cut my machine cannot boot
On Wed, 2015-09-09 at 16:20 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 09/09/2015 04:00 PM, Paul Smith wrote: > > Thanks, Patrick. The default clean installation of F21 does not > > already install a journaling filesystem? > > I think that the default is ext4, which is journalling. LVM is also > the default, and I've no idea how that handles these things. My > advice is, if you're a home user you probably don't need it. I agree that you don't need LVM (if that's what you meant). I do think you need a journalling filesystem. However in the present case it's conceivable that the power fail did some damage to the actual drive, especially if there was also a power spike, in which case a journal may not save you. You might have better protection with a mirrored drive, but really there are no guarantees. Backup often. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org