Re: Upgrade advice

2015-11-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 10:20:44 -0400, Jeffrey Ross wrote:

> I'm looking for some suggestions on how to upgrade an older Fedora system
> and keep as many of the configurations as possible for the applications
> that are being used.

Packages don't touch /home, so all that would be needed is to keep /home.
Or backup your user's files and restore them after an upgrade or after a
fresh installation.

As jumping from F16 to F22 could result in lots of surprises (and
upgrading from F16 to F17 to F18 ... to F22 would be tiresome), I would
always prefer a fresh installation, especially if you want to rethink your
partitioning. It would also be an opportunity to recreate the list of packages
you want to add to the default installation afterwards.
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Re: Upgrade advice

2015-11-02 Thread birger
Since i have been running on btrfs for some time now i have the option to 
install to a fresh root subvolume, while reusing the existing swap and home. 
When i am certain i have everything set up i can delete the old root subvolume. 
No repartitioning needed.

2. nov. 2015 1.13 p.m. skrev Michael Schwendt :
>
> On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 10:20:44 -0400, Jeffrey Ross wrote:
>
> > I'm looking for some suggestions on how to upgrade an older Fedora system
> > and keep as many of the configurations as possible for the applications
> > that are being used.
>
> Packages don't touch /home, so all that would be needed is to keep /home.
> Or backup your user's files and restore them after an upgrade or after a
> fresh installation.
>
> As jumping from F16 to F22 could result in lots of surprises (and
> upgrading from F16 to F17 to F18 ... to F22 would be tiresome), I would
> always prefer a fresh installation, especially if you want to rethink your
> partitioning. It would also be an opportunity to recreate the list of packages
> you want to add to the default installation afterwards.
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Re: Upgrade advice

2015-11-02 Thread Jeffrey Ross
> I'm looking for some suggestions on how to upgrade an older Fedora system
> and keep as many of the configurations as possible for the applications
> that are being used.
>
> Currently the system is running Fedora 16 and there are at least two
> things that are preventing me from successfully running fedup or the yum
> upgrade.
>
> The first stumbling block is that system was installed with separate
> partitions for /, /boot, /var, & /usr and I think that the separation of /
> and /usr is my biggest issue.
>
> The second issue is the system is setup with RAID1 on all partitions with
> the bootloader (Grub ?) installed on both disks in the event of a disk
> failure.
>
> I would like to avoid a new/clean install (I know I can preserve /home) if
> at all possible.
>
> Any suggestions on how to proceed?
>
> Thanks, Jeff
>

I think I'm going to just bite the bullet and do a fresh install while
preserving /home, I have enough space available on /home to backup of all
the other filesystems (at least temporarily) so I can retain copies of
whatever modifications I made in the past.  Luckily for me / and /usr are
on adjoining physical partitions so I before reinstalling I can merge the
two partitions back together.

At least fdisk shows my partition table starting at 2048 so at least I'm
good there.

I'll have to look through the current install guidelines to make sure I'm
not breaking some cardinal rule but at this point I'm planning on

/boot - Raid1
/ - Raid1
/var - Raid1
/home - Raid1
swap - Raid1

What is the current recommendation for swap?  I'm guessing it needs to be
at least the same size as physical memory.  Years ago unix upon a system
crash would start writing the crash file at the beginning of the swap
partition and keep going until it was done, if swap was smaller than
physical memory you had a problem as the system would happily write over
the next partition.

-Jeff

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python question

2015-11-02 Thread François Patte
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I have a problem with a python program (oqapy) which does not run on
fedora 21.

Here is the error message:

 RuntimeError: the sip module implements API v11.0 to v11.1 but the
oqapy_iproc module requires API v9.2

as far as I understand the API version is to recent and the program
need an older version.

Is there any way to have some "backward compatibility" modules in
python under this version of fedora?

Thank you

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anyone here play with rackspace/disgitocean/etc...

2015-11-02 Thread bruce
Hey guys,

looking for an online/email guru/tutor as I setup a couple of test droplets..



Anyone interested..

Thanks!
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Re: Upgrade advice

2015-11-02 Thread Ralf Corsepius

On 11/02/2015 02:47 PM, Jeffrey Ross wrote:

I think I'm going to just bite the bullet and do a fresh install while
preserving /home,

I recommend to also backup /etc.

Otherwise you'd have additional efforts with restoring passwd/accounts, 
ssl-keys, etc.



I'll have to look through the current install guidelines to make sure I'm
not breaking some cardinal rule but at this point I'm planning on

/boot - Raid1
/ - Raid1
/var - Raid1
/home - Raid1
swap - Raid1

What is the current recommendation for swap?  I'm guessing it needs to be
at least the same size as physical memory.

Primarily depends upon your actual amount of memory.

On "big RAM" systems you probably don't need any on "small RAM" systems 
you probably will want some. How to define "small/big" depends largely 
upon the footprint your typical style of usage imposes.



 Years ago unix upon a system
crash would start writing the crash file at the beginning of the swap
partition and keep going until it was done, if swap was smaller than
physical memory you had a problem as the system would happily write over
the next partition.
IIRC, in the old days, the rule was twice the amount of RAM, with the 
reason being "suspend to disk". As diskspace is cheap these days, I am 
still applying this rule.


Ralf



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Re: anyone here play with rackspace/disgitocean/etc...

2015-11-02 Thread Pete Travis
On Nov 2, 2015 08:35, "bruce"  wrote:
>
> Hey guys,
>
> looking for an online/email guru/tutor as I setup a couple of test
droplets..
>
>
>
> Anyone interested..
>
> Thanks!
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I have used cloud servers.  They work like any other Fedora installation.
Can you be more specific about what you are trying to accomplish?

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Re: anyone here play with rackspace/disgitocean/etc...

2015-11-02 Thread Jack Craig
i used to use rackspace at carrieriq, but its been awhile.

i don think i can really 'tutor you', but happy to answer as possible.

our use of rackspace was to map out a new server room at the colo.

after installed the room, we loaded rackspace with all the demographics &
used it for remote management of the 30+ systems..



On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 6:35 AM, bruce  wrote:

> Hey guys,
>
> looking for an online/email guru/tutor as I setup a couple of test
> droplets..
>
>
>
> Anyone interested..
>
> Thanks!
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Re: anyone here play with rackspace/disgitocean/etc...

2015-11-02 Thread bruce
Hey Jack.

Thanks for the reply. (aptos) as in santa cruz aptos??

How are you at answering dns/security questions? I'm thinking of
testing some of the tutorials for using cloudflare/dns to allow a
couple of test droplets to be accessed/viewed using the dns of
cloudflare.

The security, well given that my goal is not to be a sysadmin, I know
that screwing up the basic security is somewhat dangerous.

Thanks



On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Jack Craig  wrote:
> i used to use rackspace at carrieriq, but its been awhile.
>
> i don think i can really 'tutor you', but happy to answer as possible.
>
> our use of rackspace was to map out a new server room at the colo.
>
> after installed the room, we loaded rackspace with all the demographics &
> used it for remote management of the 30+ systems..
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 6:35 AM, bruce  wrote:
>>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> looking for an online/email guru/tutor as I setup a couple of test
>> droplets..
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyone interested..
>>
>> Thanks!
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Re: Weird transparency in display

2015-11-02 Thread Rick Stevens

On 11/01/2015 08:31 AM, Beartooth wrote:

On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 14:07:25 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:

[]

  From your Main Menu, go to Applications->Documentation->About Xfce and
find out exactly.  Then go to https://forum.xfce.org, open an account
and ask in the Desktop forum.


Don't I wish! But, remember, the problem is precisely that I
can't read menus. I can barely make out that they're there.


Try "xfdesktop -V" (capital Vee):

[root@prophead ~]# xfdesktop -V
This is xfdesktop version 4.12.3, running on Xfce 4.12.
Built with GTK+ 2.24.28, linked with GTK+ 2.24.28.
Build options:
Desktop Menu:enabled
Desktop Icons:   enabled
Desktop File Icons:  enabled






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Re: OT: help with search

2015-11-02 Thread jd1008



On 11/01/2015 08:01 PM, bruce wrote:

hey...

is your issue, you have a specific site you can point to, and you want
to get links off the site?

or is it something else?



On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 7:30 PM, jd1008  wrote:

I googled for a way to list all items found on a single page.
What I am searching for is very very specific (in double quotes)
and only on a specific web site:
FOr example:

my_Favorite_Site.com: "my specific phrase" -some_word


It comes up with a total of 12K hits on that web site.

I need a way list the URL's of all the hits, or find a
way to easily capture the URL's of all hits without the
rigmarole of Rightclick on each link and copy url.

Has anyone found a way to accomplish this?
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Just the links, so I can put them in a text file for another program to
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Re: OT: help with search

2015-11-02 Thread bruce
ok...


so you have a 'local' site, not a page, and you want to extract/get
all the links for the 'domain' of the site you're looking at.

you're going to have to have an app/process that crawls the site, and
generates the links.

there are a bunch of open source stuff to allow you to craft a process
to do this, depending on your skillset.  (not sure what your dev
level/skillset is)

you might also have 'plugins' for the browser that will more or less
generate this kind of data.

webscraping/crawling/links  <<< terms if you need them.

let us know what else you need.


On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 12:53 PM, jd1008  wrote:
>
>
> On 11/01/2015 08:01 PM, bruce wrote:
>>
>> hey...
>>
>> is your issue, you have a specific site you can point to, and you want
>> to get links off the site?
>>
>> or is it something else?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 7:30 PM, jd1008  wrote:
>>>
>>> I googled for a way to list all items found on a single page.
>>> What I am searching for is very very specific (in double quotes)
>>> and only on a specific web site:
>>> FOr example:
>>>
>>> my_Favorite_Site.com: "my specific phrase" -some_word
>>>
>>>
>>> It comes up with a total of 12K hits on that web site.
>>>
>>> I need a way list the URL's of all the hits, or find a
>>> way to easily capture the URL's of all hits without the
>>> rigmarole of Rightclick on each link and copy url.
>>>
>>> Has anyone found a way to accomplish this?
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> Just the links, so I can put them in a text file for another program to
> go through them.
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Re: OT: help with search

2015-11-02 Thread jd1008



On 11/02/2015 11:15 AM, bruce wrote:

ok...


so you have a 'local' site, not a page, and you want to extract/get
all the links for the 'domain' of the site you're looking at.

you're going to have to have an app/process that crawls the site, and
generates the links.

there are a bunch of open source stuff to allow you to craft a process
to do this, depending on your skillset.  (not sure what your dev
level/skillset is)

you might also have 'plugins' for the browser that will more or less
generate this kind of data.

webscraping/crawling/links  <<< terms if you need them.

let us know what else you need.


On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 12:53 PM, jd1008  wrote:


On 11/01/2015 08:01 PM, bruce wrote:

hey...

is your issue, you have a specific site you can point to, and you want
to get links off the site?

or is it something else?



On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 7:30 PM, jd1008  wrote:

I googled for a way to list all items found on a single page.
What I am searching for is very very specific (in double quotes)
and only on a specific web site:
FOr example:

my_Favorite_Site.com: "my specific phrase" -some_word


It comes up with a total of 12K hits on that web site.

I need a way list the URL's of all the hits, or find a
way to easily capture the URL's of all hits without the
rigmarole of Rightclick on each link and copy url.

Has anyone found a way to accomplish this?
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Just the links, so I can put them in a text file for another program to
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No.
Not  a local page. It can be any public search engine,
and it can be any specific phrase.
I already provided an example.
But the example does not give me just the raw texts of the links of the 
hits found,
nor does it give all of them in one fell swoop which you could save to a 
text file.



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Re: OT: help with search

2015-11-02 Thread Rick Stevens

On 11/02/2015 10:22 AM, jd1008 wrote:



On 11/02/2015 11:15 AM, bruce wrote:

ok...


so you have a 'local' site, not a page, and you want to extract/get
all the links for the 'domain' of the site you're looking at.

you're going to have to have an app/process that crawls the site, and
generates the links.

there are a bunch of open source stuff to allow you to craft a process
to do this, depending on your skillset.  (not sure what your dev
level/skillset is)

you might also have 'plugins' for the browser that will more or less
generate this kind of data.

webscraping/crawling/links  <<< terms if you need them.

let us know what else you need.


On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 12:53 PM, jd1008  wrote:


On 11/01/2015 08:01 PM, bruce wrote:

hey...

is your issue, you have a specific site you can point to, and you want
to get links off the site?

or is it something else?



On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 7:30 PM, jd1008  wrote:

I googled for a way to list all items found on a single page.
What I am searching for is very very specific (in double quotes)
and only on a specific web site:
FOr example:

my_Favorite_Site.com: "my specific phrase" -some_word


It comes up with a total of 12K hits on that web site.

I need a way list the URL's of all the hits, or find a
way to easily capture the URL's of all hits without the
rigmarole of Rightclick on each link and copy url.

Has anyone found a way to accomplish this?
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Just the links, so I can put them in a text file for another program to
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No.
Not  a local page. It can be any public search engine,
and it can be any specific phrase.
I already provided an example.
But the example does not give me just the raw texts of the links of the
hits found,
nor does it give all of them in one fell swoop which you could save to a
text file.


Try this:

https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~rcm/websphinx/

Perhaps that'll do what you want.
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Re: anyone here play with rackspace/disgitocean/etc...

2015-11-02 Thread Pete Travis
On Nov 2, 2015 9:28 AM, "bruce"  wrote:
>
> Hi Pete.
>
> Thanks for the reply.
>
> I'm looking to play/test setting up a couple of test systems on
> rackspace/digitalocean (given the cheap cost).
>
> Droplets on Digital ocean are 5/mth so I can play a bit. I'm not a
> sysadmin guy, and don't want to be, but I really need to get a base
> understanding of how to provision a box, setup dns/nfs for a couple of
> boxes, establish a reasonable 'secure' env, that kind of thing..
>
> I could eventually read/look over tutorials/try things/etc.. but it
> sometimes is easier/better to have someone I can talk with/query to
> speed up the process, and have a better outcome.
>
> I haven't yet purchased the droplets, as I want to make sure I kind of
> understand what has to be done, prior to jumping in!
>
> Thanks
>
> -bruce
>
> ps, I'm more than willing to shell out a few $$ for this. Also,
> there's a small group that I'm part of, and once I get this
> data/knowledge, I want to be able to walk them through how to do a
> similar process.
>
> thanks again..
>

A couple points here:

-  I, or we, can offer guidance on using cloud products, CDNs, etc here to
accomplish a specific goal.  Advise on this list is free, and it is the
declared purpose of the list.  If you're setting up a webserver, or backup
target, or whatever, say so.

-  If you aren't a sysadmin, and will need regular and specific support for
your cloud infrastructure, you should look into Rackspace's support levels.
There is a service tier that gets you OS level admin support. (full
disclosure: I'm one of the folks providing that support).

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Re: OT: help with search

2015-11-02 Thread bruce
Rick!!!

Really, you're throwing this person to java!!!  You're a cruel dude!!!

But yeah, a web crawler is what you need. As stated, do a goog search,
there are plenty out there. You just need an easy to use crawler that
you can point a site at, and the crawler will then iterate through all
the pages on/in the domain, retrieving all the links for you.



On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Rick Stevens  wrote:
> On 11/02/2015 10:22 AM, jd1008 wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/02/2015 11:15 AM, bruce wrote:
>>>
>>> ok...
>>>
>>>
>>> so you have a 'local' site, not a page, and you want to extract/get
>>> all the links for the 'domain' of the site you're looking at.
>>>
>>> you're going to have to have an app/process that crawls the site, and
>>> generates the links.
>>>
>>> there are a bunch of open source stuff to allow you to craft a process
>>> to do this, depending on your skillset.  (not sure what your dev
>>> level/skillset is)
>>>
>>> you might also have 'plugins' for the browser that will more or less
>>> generate this kind of data.
>>>
>>> webscraping/crawling/links  <<< terms if you need them.
>>>
>>> let us know what else you need.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 12:53 PM, jd1008  wrote:


 On 11/01/2015 08:01 PM, bruce wrote:
>
> hey...
>
> is your issue, you have a specific site you can point to, and you want
> to get links off the site?
>
> or is it something else?
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 7:30 PM, jd1008  wrote:
>>
>> I googled for a way to list all items found on a single page.
>> What I am searching for is very very specific (in double quotes)
>> and only on a specific web site:
>> FOr example:
>>
>> my_Favorite_Site.com: "my specific phrase" -some_word
>>
>>
>> It comes up with a total of 12K hits on that web site.
>>
>> I need a way list the URL's of all the hits, or find a
>> way to easily capture the URL's of all hits without the
>> rigmarole of Rightclick on each link and copy url.
>>
>> Has anyone found a way to accomplish this?
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 Just the links, so I can put them in a text file for another program to
 go through them.
 --

>> No.
>> Not  a local page. It can be any public search engine,
>> and it can be any specific phrase.
>> I already provided an example.
>> But the example does not give me just the raw texts of the links of the
>> hits found,
>> nor does it give all of them in one fell swoop which you could save to a
>> text file.
>
>
> Try this:
>
> https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~rcm/websphinx/
>
> Perhaps that'll do what you want.
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Re: OT: help with search

2015-11-02 Thread Rick Stevens

On 11/02/2015 10:48 AM, bruce wrote:

Rick!!!

Really, you're throwing this person to java!!!  You're a cruel dude!!!


Muah-hah-hah! (twirling moustache and cackling evilly!)


But yeah, a web crawler is what you need. As stated, do a goog search,
there are plenty out there. You just need an easy to use crawler that
you can point a site at, and the crawler will then iterate through all
the pages on/in the domain, retrieving all the links for you.


I sorta chose that one as it has a fairly simple "download and use"
thing going for it.


On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Rick Stevens  wrote:

On 11/02/2015 10:22 AM, jd1008 wrote:




On 11/02/2015 11:15 AM, bruce wrote:


ok...


so you have a 'local' site, not a page, and you want to extract/get
all the links for the 'domain' of the site you're looking at.

you're going to have to have an app/process that crawls the site, and
generates the links.

there are a bunch of open source stuff to allow you to craft a process
to do this, depending on your skillset.  (not sure what your dev
level/skillset is)

you might also have 'plugins' for the browser that will more or less
generate this kind of data.

webscraping/crawling/links  <<< terms if you need them.

let us know what else you need.


On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 12:53 PM, jd1008  wrote:



On 11/01/2015 08:01 PM, bruce wrote:


hey...

is your issue, you have a specific site you can point to, and you want
to get links off the site?

or is it something else?



On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 7:30 PM, jd1008  wrote:


I googled for a way to list all items found on a single page.
What I am searching for is very very specific (in double quotes)
and only on a specific web site:
FOr example:

my_Favorite_Site.com: "my specific phrase" -some_word


It comes up with a total of 12K hits on that web site.

I need a way list the URL's of all the hits, or find a
way to easily capture the URL's of all hits without the
rigmarole of Rightclick on each link and copy url.

Has anyone found a way to accomplish this?
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Just the links, so I can put them in a text file for another program to
go through them.
--


No.
Not  a local page. It can be any public search engine,
and it can be any specific phrase.
I already provided an example.
But the example does not give me just the raw texts of the links of the
hits found,
nor does it give all of them in one fell swoop which you could save to a
text file.



Try this:

 https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~rcm/websphinx/

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Re: OT: help with search

2015-11-02 Thread bruce
snidely.. and your TOPHAT!!

thanks for the laugh bro!


On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Rick Stevens  wrote:
> On 11/02/2015 10:48 AM, bruce wrote:
>>
>> Rick!!!
>>
>> Really, you're throwing this person to java!!!  You're a cruel dude!!!
>
>
> Muah-hah-hah! (twirling moustache and cackling evilly!)
>
>> But yeah, a web crawler is what you need. As stated, do a goog search,
>> there are plenty out there. You just need an easy to use crawler that
>> you can point a site at, and the crawler will then iterate through all
>> the pages on/in the domain, retrieving all the links for you.
>
>
> I sorta chose that one as it has a fairly simple "download and use"
> thing going for it.
>
>
>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Rick Stevens  wrote:
>>>
>>> On 11/02/2015 10:22 AM, jd1008 wrote:




 On 11/02/2015 11:15 AM, bruce wrote:
>
>
> ok...
>
>
> so you have a 'local' site, not a page, and you want to extract/get
> all the links for the 'domain' of the site you're looking at.
>
> you're going to have to have an app/process that crawls the site, and
> generates the links.
>
> there are a bunch of open source stuff to allow you to craft a process
> to do this, depending on your skillset.  (not sure what your dev
> level/skillset is)
>
> you might also have 'plugins' for the browser that will more or less
> generate this kind of data.
>
> webscraping/crawling/links  <<< terms if you need them.
>
> let us know what else you need.
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 12:53 PM, jd1008  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/01/2015 08:01 PM, bruce wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> hey...
>>>
>>> is your issue, you have a specific site you can point to, and you
>>> want
>>> to get links off the site?
>>>
>>> or is it something else?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 7:30 PM, jd1008  wrote:


 I googled for a way to list all items found on a single page.
 What I am searching for is very very specific (in double quotes)
 and only on a specific web site:
 FOr example:

 my_Favorite_Site.com: "my specific phrase" -some_word


 It comes up with a total of 12K hits on that web site.

 I need a way list the URL's of all the hits, or find a
 way to easily capture the URL's of all hits without the
 rigmarole of Rightclick on each link and copy url.

 Has anyone found a way to accomplish this?
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>>
>> Just the links, so I can put them in a text file for another program
>> to
>> go through them.
>> --
>>
 No.
 Not  a local page. It can be any public search engine,
 and it can be any specific phrase.
 I already provided an example.
 But the example does not give me just the raw texts of the links of the
 hits found,
 nor does it give all of them in one fell swoop which you could save to a
 text file.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Try this:
>>>
>>>  https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~rcm/websphinx/
>>>
>>> Perhaps that'll do what you want.
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Re: anyone here play with rackspace/disgitocean/etc...

2015-11-02 Thread Jack Craig
sounds like a worthy challenge.
i'll contribute as much as possible...

On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Pete Travis  wrote:

>
> On Nov 2, 2015 9:28 AM, "bruce"  wrote:
> >
> > Hi Pete.
> >
> > Thanks for the reply.
> >
> > I'm looking to play/test setting up a couple of test systems on
> > rackspace/digitalocean (given the cheap cost).
> >
> > Droplets on Digital ocean are 5/mth so I can play a bit. I'm not a
> > sysadmin guy, and don't want to be, but I really need to get a base
> > understanding of how to provision a box, setup dns/nfs for a couple of
> > boxes, establish a reasonable 'secure' env, that kind of thing..
> >
> > I could eventually read/look over tutorials/try things/etc.. but it
> > sometimes is easier/better to have someone I can talk with/query to
> > speed up the process, and have a better outcome.
> >
> > I haven't yet purchased the droplets, as I want to make sure I kind of
> > understand what has to be done, prior to jumping in!
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > -bruce
> >
> > ps, I'm more than willing to shell out a few $$ for this. Also,
> > there's a small group that I'm part of, and once I get this
> > data/knowledge, I want to be able to walk them through how to do a
> > similar process.
> >
> > thanks again..
> >
>
> A couple points here:
>
> -  I, or we, can offer guidance on using cloud products, CDNs, etc here to
> accomplish a specific goal.  Advise on this list is free, and it is the
> declared purpose of the list.  If you're setting up a webserver, or backup
> target, or whatever, say so.
>
> -  If you aren't a sysadmin, and will need regular and specific support
> for your cloud infrastructure, you should look into Rackspace's support
> levels. There is a service tier that gets you OS level admin support. (full
> disclosure: I'm one of the folks providing that support).
>
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Re: OT: help with search

2015-11-02 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Mon, Nov 02, 2015 at 11:22:38AM -0700, jd1008 wrote:
> 
...
> 
> No.
> Not  a local page. It can be any public search engine,
> and it can be any specific phrase.
> I already provided an example.
> But the example does not give me just the raw texts of
> the links of the hits found, nor does it give all of them
> in one fell swoop which you could save to a text file.
> 
Check out this forum query:

  https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/websearch/wBL65wPIxxY

If I understand the discussion, and it is correct, Google
will only show a maximum of the first 1000.  One responder
also shows a way to get those 1000 into a document 100 at
a time.

HTH
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Re: OT: help with search

2015-11-02 Thread jd1008



On 11/02/2015 03:29 PM, Jon LaBadie wrote:

On Mon, Nov 02, 2015 at 11:22:38AM -0700, jd1008 wrote:
...

No.
Not  a local page. It can be any public search engine,
and it can be any specific phrase.
I already provided an example.
But the example does not give me just the raw texts of
the links of the hits found, nor does it give all of them
in one fell swoop which you could save to a text file.


Check out this forum query:

   https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/websearch/wBL65wPIxxY

If I understand the discussion, and it is correct, Google
will only show a maximum of the first 1000.  One responder
also shows a way to get those 1000 into a document 100 at
a time.

HTH
jl

The firefox add-on "Re-pagination" WILL present all hits (in my case 2880)
on a single page, but they are not in the form of raw URL text per hit.
The link you provide does indeed ask for almost the same thing I am seeking,
but the OP of that blog did not get what s/he wanted.


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Re: Another F22 issue

2015-11-02 Thread Stephen Davies

On 11/02/2015 05:47 PM, Cristian Sava wrote:

On Sat, 2015-10-31 at 12:42 +1030, Stephen Davies wrote:

Under F21, I could configure a screen saver which trawled through my
photo
collection.
I cannot find this facility under F22.
Does it exist? If so, where? If not, why not?

Modify
/usr/share/backgrounds/gnome/adwaita-timed.xml
according to your needs.

C.S.



I'm using KDE.

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F22 QEMU image at max CPU and unresponsive after suspend

2015-11-02 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I am running a F21 image with QEMU.  Often, after resuming from suspend, 
the image is at max CPU and unresponsive.  I end up having to close the 
window into the image, force the image off, then restart everything.


This rather a pain at conferences (currently at IETF) where I am 
frequently suspending my notebook as I go from session to session.


And I have not figured out how to trouble shot this.  Any pointers would 
be greatly appreciated.



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F22 Install with inst.nodnf boot option

2015-11-02 Thread Andrew Bickley

Hello,

After ending up with the f22 debug kernel unexpectedly and then 
painfully learning it's 10 times slower than the non-debug kernel and 
searching how that happened and finding bug # 1192189; I tried a 
reinstall of f22 using the inst.nodnf boot option at the anaconda boot 
menu yet once the install completes it doesn't seem to work any 
differently than when I don't use the inst.nodnf boot option. In the 
release notes par. 3.2.1 it seems to say I can revert back to yum 
*without* resorting to yum-deprecated. The docs on this are virtually 
non-existent to explain what it's actually supposed to look like once 
it's done processing inst.nodnf.


Can someone tell me what an F22 install is supposed to look like when 
using the inst.nodnf boot option? My experience has been it doesn't do 
anything. In reading about this I saw that previous versions had a 
similar inst.dnf option; however since I never used that option I have 
no reference points for what that command does either so I cannot even 
guess what the opposite might look like.


Thanks.

drew

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Scroll Bars not Working Properly in F22 Applications in KDE

2015-11-02 Thread Stephen Morris
I have an issue certain applications not displaying the scroll bars 
properly.


I am using the upstream Nightly version of Firefox and the upstream 
Daily version of Thunderbird. Both of these display the vertical scroll 
bar permanently, but neither of them display the top and bottom arrows. 
Another application I have looked at is Gedit which only displays the 
vertical scroll bar when you mouse over it, but it doesn't display the 
top and bottom arrows either. I get these issues irrespective of what 
KDE theme I use.
Looking at the KDE Settings App it displays the scroll bars with top and 
bottom arrows fine.


The Kwin script to force window decorations on GTK+ apps is active.

Does anyone have any ideas why the above mentioned applications don't 
show the arrows but the KDE Settings Application does show the arrows, 
and whether or not there is anyway to rectify it? From memory I did not 
have this issue in F21 and F22 was installed from scratch from the live 
DVD because the F21->F22 upgrade process does not work on my system (the 
upgrade process wants to run the install from the Grub menu and on my 
system my wireless network is not active at that point and cannot be 
made active because of required drivers).


regards,
Steve
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Re: Configuring/setup of WiFi card on Dell E6220 Laptop

2015-11-02 Thread Max Pyziur

On Sun, 1 Nov 2015, Terry Polzin wrote:



Broadcom is a waste of time, if it's in a slot that you can access and
replace the card an Intel 5100 is a good choice. Or commit a USB port to a
mini adapter that is supported


It's actually very accessible. Intel 5100 card is on order.

In the meantime, I found the steps and the rpm to get this to work. For 
the BCM43228, I installed kmod-wl (dnf install kmod-wl) from the rpmfusion 
repos. As a dependency, the dnf process installed 
kmod-wl-4.0.4-301.fc22.x86_64.x86_64


This rpm contains the kernel module/driver for the Broadcom card. However, 
it is only built for the 4.04.xx kernel. So at bootup, if I select that 
kernel then the Broadcom wifi card's module loads, and WiFi is available.


The steps are (sort of) described here:
https://ask.fedoraproject.org/en/question/58173/how-to-make-wifi-bcm43142-work-on-fedora-21/

Now, the next step is to learn how to either build or find the Broadcom 
module paired with current kernel.


Anyday now on that F23 rollout. Upgrade phun is just around the corner.

;-)

MP


On Nov 1, 2015 4:50 AM, "Paul Cartwright"  wrote:
  yup, same here.. I have a real old Dell XPS laptop with a
  similar Broadcom card.. never got it to work. what you need is
  the IPW2200 driver..
  you might try uninstalling NetworkManager & installing wicd.



  On 10/31/2015 06:47 PM, Max Pyziur wrote:

I've just installed F22 on a Dell E6220 laptop (in
anticipations of next week's F23 rollout).

;-)

A few issues left to squre

I'm trying to setup WiFi (the Ethernet device
works correctly, btw).

There is an external switch controlling power to
the card, and an indicator light. Those show that
the item is "on."

lspci -v for the WiFi card reports the following:

02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation
BCM43228 802.11a/b/g/n


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Re: Scroll Bars not Working Properly in F22 Applications in KDE

2015-11-02 Thread bitlord
On Tue, 3 Nov 2015 11:27:00 +1100
Stephen Morris  wrote:

> I have an issue certain applications not displaying the scroll bars 
> properly.
> 
> I am using the upstream Nightly version of Firefox and the upstream 
> Daily version of Thunderbird. Both of these display the vertical
> scroll bar permanently, but neither of them display the top and
> bottom arrows. Another application I have looked at is Gedit which
> only displays the vertical scroll bar when you mouse over it, but it
> doesn't display the top and bottom arrows either. I get these issues
> irrespective of what KDE theme I use.
> Looking at the KDE Settings App it displays the scroll bars with top
> and bottom arrows fine.
> 
> The Kwin script to force window decorations on GTK+ apps is active.
> 
> Does anyone have any ideas why the above mentioned applications don't 
> show the arrows but the KDE Settings Application does show the
> arrows, and whether or not there is anyway to rectify it? From memory
> I did not have this issue in F21 and F22 was installed from scratch
> from the live DVD because the F21->F22 upgrade process does not work
> on my system (the upgrade process wants to run the install from the
> Grub menu and on my system my wireless network is not active at that
> point and cannot be made active because of required drivers).
> 
> regards,
> Steve

About scrollbars, gedit is gtk+ application (gtk+3.x in this case), not
sure about FF and Tbird (nightly builds could use gtk+3.x), Fedora FF
package uses gtk+3 now, so editing theme or changing it can give you
arrows, and about hidden scroll bars it is a new gtk+ feature[1]
(>=3.16), so one way is to change default GTK+ theme, or possible
solution is to export "GTK_OVERLAY_SCROLLING=0". 


[1] https://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/2014/10/23/an-early-view-of-gtk-3-16/
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Re: anyone here play with rackspace/disgitocean/etc...

2015-11-02 Thread bruce
Hey Pete/Craig, and anyone else who's replied!!

Thanks for your comments, really appreciate them. There was no reason
to keep the individual replies offlist, just didn't want to have
off-topic subthreads that others might not be interested in on the
list.

However, it might be good to post updates of the process as I go
forth, just to give others the information in case they might want to
chime in, or do something similar.

So, I'll keep you posted. got some more reading to do!

Thanks all!!



On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 3:21 PM, Pete Travis  wrote:
>
> On Nov 2, 2015 12:59 PM, "bruce"  wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Pete.
>>
>> And good to know that Rackspace has a few  good/solid guys!
>>
>> As to my test, basically, setting up a 'scalable' test, to be able to
>> run crawlers/applications. The idea is to have a bunch (400-500) apps
>> that are long running, and need to be tested. I'm thinking of having a
>> process that would allow a 'master' to be able to iterate through the
>> apps, and spin out a number of droplets/cloud instances to run/track
>> the apps.
>>
>> To get there, I need to be able to set up an initial env, that's got
>> security/dns/nfs. Once I get there, the process can more or less be
>> tested.
>>
>> So, for now, not looking for continuing support, just looking to make
>> sure I don't screw anything up too badly in setting the test up!
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>
> I can give you some general pointers, but it's not something you can
> reasonably expect to accomplish without learning a whole lot about devops.
> Even the base setup you are talking about starting with is not appropriate
> for the solution you want.
>
> Is there a reason to keep this off-list?
>
> --Pete
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