Re: install linux with no Desktop (GUI)

[Bryon Adams]

On Sep 27, 2016 5:34 PM, Adel ESSAFI  wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I need to install fedora with only text mode available. I don t need 
> graphical desktop installed.
> Is there a way or an image that allows this?
>
> Regards
>
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I recommend using the net install / minimal image. I actually use it every 
time, even if I want the GUI. If you don't want to download all of the packages 
e dry time, the server install is the one you want.

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Re: install linux with no Desktop (GUI)

[Samuel Sieb]

On 09/27/2016 02:34 PM, Adel ESSAFI wrote:

Hello,
I need to install fedora with only text mode available. I don t need
graphical desktop installed.
Is there a way or an image that allows this?

As long as you don't use a live image to install from, you can pick 
different options, including minimal.  The best one for you would most 
likely be the "Everything" net install image.


http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/24/Everything/x86_64/iso/
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Re: install linux with no Desktop (GUI)

[Earl A Ramirez]

Hello Adel,

Fedora Server has no GUI by default, you can give it a try.
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install linux with no Desktop (GUI)

[Adel ESSAFI]

Hello,
I need to install fedora with only text mode available. I don t need
graphical desktop installed.
Is there a way or an image that allows this?

Regards




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Re: liveusb-creator

[Ranjan Maitra]

On 09/27/2016 09:32 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> This is an annoying thread.
>
> Ranjan, jd1008, Jon LaBadie - consider yourselves lucky the OP did not
> experience data loss as a result of obviously bad advice. Even my
> house plant recognized what treacherously bad advice it contained.
>
> The OP very clearly, without any ambiguity, expressed reluctance to
> use the CLI. And even after demonstrating dangerous lack of
> understanding with the dd command, you guys kept on pushing him
> forward. Seriously, it makes you three jerks. You're the guys who take
> the bunny slope skier on a blue/black run, and then when they get
> stuck or hurt you blame them for it. What is wrong with you? All three
> of you were also condescending, the bad advice wasn't enough
> apparently.
>
> I think Lawrence's thanks is pure charity. Next time someone clearly
> expresses such aversion, maybe consider having no advice at all? For
> all you know he could have rebooted at any point, and /dev/sda would
> have been enumerated as some other drive, and your advice would have
> resulted in data loss. All of your advice was unqualified.
>
> Honestly, hindsight being 20/20 you three really should realize how
> you just dodged a bullet, and so did Lawrence.
>
>
>
> Chris Murphy

I had stopped following this thread, but came across this accidentally. Btw, 
here is what my original post (after the OP expressed reluctance) said:

"Hi,

Unless I have misunderstood what you are trying to do, the steps are exactly 
what I have
written down. The only two things you have to fill out in the commandline are 
the if= and
the of= arguments. If you need help with that, please post back and we shall 
see if we can
help.

Best wishes,
Ranjan"

The OP never responded back.

Here is the original commandline steps mentioned in this e-mail:

begin cut-and-paste

# in order to make a bootable cd, etc, on the commandline:

sudo dd if=path-to-iso.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=1M

# In the above, if (input file) has path-to-iso.iso is the location of your 
iso. For
example: /tmp/Fedora.iso

# Note: only the letter-drive is to be included in the of (output file) i.e. 
/dev/sdb not
inclusive of the numeral /dev/sdb1.

end cut-and-paste

Perhaps you were just jumping in, but as far as I am concerned, I have been 
much helped on this forum since the days of Fedora Core 1, so I was only trying 
to help and offer encouragement for someone who was newer to Linux. This is how 
I learnt stuff in the first place.

I am sorry my post was interpreted otherwise.

And I missed his thanks, but I am grateful for that.

Best wishes,
Ranjan


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Re: liveusb-creator

[jd1008]

On 09/26/2016 05:51 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 09/27/16 07:21, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Tue, 2016-09-27 at 06:44 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 09/27/16 00:19, jd1008 wrote:

In case you are using the Nvidia proprietary driver proprietary driver, then
as Ed Greshko pointed out

I have not been involved in this thread and I made no such recommendation in 
regards to
hibernation.

I thought I must have missed something.


You didn't.  I have never used "suspend" or "hibernation" in the Linux 
environment.  So, I
know less than nothing about them.  So, if you read anything from me where I 
use words
like "hibernate" or "suspend" chances are that I'm talking about bears or 
inter-galactic
travel.



My bad - a mis-attribution.
Please see below:

On 09/26/2016 06:16 AM, jack smith wrote:

Don't know if it's related but there is a bug in Qt with the Nvidia drivers 
that break liveusb-creator.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1356677
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Re: liveusb-creator

[jd1008]

On 09/27/2016 07:20 AM, fred roller wrote:


On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 11:14 PM, jd1008 > wrote:


But Rick, the OP was trying to dd into /dev/sda

How can it be that the system boots off of some disk that is not
/dev/sda,
and /dev/sda is empty? and is a usb flash???

Also, why would the op get a message to the effect "disk is full"
when it is a 32GB flash?

My suspicion is that it is not a USB disk, and that it is a very
old and small IDE disk.

-JD


If you look at my reply, he dd'd into a partition which I suspect was 
only 524Mb.  Odds are, as you mentioned, the system is probably hosed 
if in fact the it was a system drive.  An IDE would show as a "hd" 
[a,b,c,d]; hence the "ls" command to find the USB. If in fact he does 
have an IDE drive and it shows as "hd*" then it would explain the how 
the USB would be "sda" Alternatively he could use:


df -h

but I felt the output would have been too confusing until the OP could 
better understand.


Kevin, thanks for the clarification, was just keeping it simple.

-- Fred

Sometimes, it is hard to guide newbies because they do not understand 
the symbolic or place-holder kinds

of command arguments, just as an example.
He claimed he was running F24 - which could have been on sdb, and 
bootable from the boot sector of sda
via the grub config file on sdb?/boot/grub2/grub.cfg . As far as I know 
F24 does not create /dev/hd.. entries.

Thanx for clarifying
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Re: liveusb-creator

[jd1008]

Why did you not step up to the plate and provide
the OP with your two cent's worth?
We did all we could. The OP is a newbie and did not understand
the lingo we use to express command arguments. His GUI was
not working, so we provided an alternative...
Why did you not provide a perfectly working solution to his GUI problem?
The kettle calling the pot .etc


On 09/27/2016 09:32 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:

This is an annoying thread.

Ranjan, jd1008, Jon LaBadie - consider yourselves lucky the OP did not
experience data loss as a result of obviously bad advice. Even my
house plant recognized what treacherously bad advice it contained.

The OP very clearly, without any ambiguity, expressed reluctance to
use the CLI. And even after demonstrating dangerous lack of
understanding with the dd command, you guys kept on pushing him
forward. Seriously, it makes you three jerks. You're the guys who take
the bunny slope skier on a blue/black run, and then when they get
stuck or hurt you blame them for it. What is wrong with you? All three
of you were also condescending, the bad advice wasn't enough
apparently.

I think Lawrence's thanks is pure charity. Next time someone clearly
expresses such aversion, maybe consider having no advice at all? For
all you know he could have rebooted at any point, and /dev/sda would
have been enumerated as some other drive, and your advice would have
resulted in data loss. All of your advice was unqualified.

Honestly, hindsight being 20/20 you three really should realize how
you just dodged a bullet, and so did Lawrence.



Chris Murphy
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Re: resolution restricted after dnf update

[Gary Stainburn]

I tried all three available kernels - to no effect.

Once monitor was conected the the VGA port, the other connected via a VGA 
adaptor to the DVI port.

The odd thing is that once I swapped them over, the resolution problem went 
away.

Not only that, but although the login screen appeared on the wrong screen - as 
expected - once I was logged in, the primary screen was in the right place, 
and the mouse moves between them screens properly despite me not changing 
anything.

hay ho. It's fixed anyway

Thanks

On Monday 26 September 2016 19:20:51 Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 09/26/2016 03:01 AM, Gary Stainburn wrote:
> > I could not see anything video related, but there was a kernel upgrade. I
> > tried booting on the previous kernel but it make no difference.
>
> Have you installed the NVidia driver or are you using nouveau?  What
> ports are the monitors using?  Is it possible to swap them?  I think you
> could use an xorg conf chunk to force it, but it would be good to fix it
> properly.
>
> It is odd that there were no graphics updates other than the kernel, but
> using an earlier kernel doesn't fix it.  Did you try both earlier
> kernels?  How long had it been since you rebooted the computer?
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Re: liveusb-creator

[Chris Murphy]

This is an annoying thread.

Ranjan, jd1008, Jon LaBadie - consider yourselves lucky the OP did not
experience data loss as a result of obviously bad advice. Even my
house plant recognized what treacherously bad advice it contained.

The OP very clearly, without any ambiguity, expressed reluctance to
use the CLI. And even after demonstrating dangerous lack of
understanding with the dd command, you guys kept on pushing him
forward. Seriously, it makes you three jerks. You're the guys who take
the bunny slope skier on a blue/black run, and then when they get
stuck or hurt you blame them for it. What is wrong with you? All three
of you were also condescending, the bad advice wasn't enough
apparently.

I think Lawrence's thanks is pure charity. Next time someone clearly
expresses such aversion, maybe consider having no advice at all? For
all you know he could have rebooted at any point, and /dev/sda would
have been enumerated as some other drive, and your advice would have
resulted in data loss. All of your advice was unqualified.

Honestly, hindsight being 20/20 you three really should realize how
you just dodged a bullet, and so did Lawrence.



Chris Murphy
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Re: Konsole title doesn't change

[Mark Haney]

Yep, that's precisely the problem I'm having.  I'll file a bug report now.
Thanks.


On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 10:29 AM, Ahmad Samir 
wrote:

> On 27 September 2016 at 15:36, Mark Haney 
> wrote:
> > For some reason, the latest Konsole package (konsole5-16.08.1-1.fc24.x86_
> 64)
> > has stopped updating the hostname on the title bar.  I've not changed the
> > profile info in the settings, so this is a bit of a mystery.
> >
> > Anyone else seen this problem?
> >
>
> Looks like this bug:
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=368785
>
> which has been fixed in upstream git. (File a bug report to be sure
> the fix gets backported to f24).
>
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Re: Konsole title doesn't change

[Ahmad Samir]

On 27 September 2016 at 15:36, Mark Haney  wrote:
> For some reason, the latest Konsole package (konsole5-16.08.1-1.fc24.x86_64)
> has stopped updating the hostname on the title bar.  I've not changed the
> profile info in the settings, so this is a bit of a mystery.
>
> Anyone else seen this problem?
>

Looks like this bug:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=368785

which has been fixed in upstream git. (File a bug report to be sure
the fix gets backported to f24).

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Konsole title doesn't change

[Mark Haney]

For some reason, the latest Konsole package
(konsole5-16.08.1-1.fc24.x86_64) has stopped updating the hostname on the
title bar.  I've not changed the profile info in the settings, so this is a
bit of a mystery.

Anyone else seen this problem?


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Re: liveusb-creator

[fred roller]

On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 11:14 PM, jd1008  wrote:

> But Rick, the OP was trying to dd into /dev/sda
>
> How can it be that the system boots off of some disk that is not /dev/sda,
> and /dev/sda is empty? and is a usb flash???
>
> Also, why would the op get a message to the effect "disk is full"
> when it is a 32GB flash?
>
> My suspicion is that it is not a USB disk, and that it is a very old and
> small IDE disk.
>
> -JD
>

If you look at my reply, he dd'd into a partition which I suspect was only
524Mb.  Odds are, as you mentioned, the system is probably hosed if in fact
the it was a system drive.  An IDE would show as a "hd" [a,b,c,d]; hence
the "ls" command to find the USB. If in fact he does have an IDE drive and
it shows as "hd*" then it would explain the how the USB would be "sda"
Alternatively he could use:

df -h

but I felt the output would have been too confusing until the OP could
better understand.

Kevin, thanks for the clarification, was just keeping it simple.

-- Fred
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Re: Annoying audit messages

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Tue, 2016-09-27 at 09:09 +0200, Jakub Jelen wrote:
> On 09/27/2016 02:22 AM, Alex wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 2:53 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
> >  wrote:
> > > 
> > > On Mon, 2016-09-26 at 14:46 -0400, Alex wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Hi all,
> > > > 
> > > > I recall seeing an rsyslog entry to prevent these messages from
> > > > filling my messages logs, but it no longer appears to work with f24.
> > > > Is there a more specific method to disable audit messages?
> > > > 
> > > > Sep 26 14:40:56 alex kernel: audit: type=2404
> > > > audit(1474915256.442:724): pid=3297 uid=0 auid=4294967295
> > > > ses=4294967295 msg='op=destroy kind=server
> > > > fp=SHA256:c3:77:02:0b:2c:82:43:05:c5:50:ff:e6:99:f1:3f:1a:1d:6a:51:b7:a4:cb:45:55:37:66:95:46:51:9b:80:d2
> > > > direction=? spid=3297 suid=0  exe="/usr/sbin/sshd" hostname=?
> > > > addr=107.155.77.2 terminal=? res=success'
> > > > 
> > > > I'm not using selinux, and have enabled rsyslog. They're just not 
> > > > helpful to me.
> > > Edit /etc/default/grub. Look for the line beginning GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX.
> > > Add "audit=0" to the end of that line. Run:
> > > 
> > > grub2-mkconfig --output /boot/grub2/grub.cfg
> > > 
> > > Audit will be turned off when you reboot. To turn it off without
> > > rebooting, do:
> > > 
> > > auditctl -e 0
> > Thanks very much, very helpful. What is the reason this is enabled by
> > default? Don't other people find it obnoxious and unhelpful?
> > 
> > How does this information help the average sysadmin?
> Audit is not just a log. For that reason, it is not dumped to the same 
> files (/var/log/secure, /var/log/messages) as other logs, but into 
> separate file (/var/log/audit/audit.log), when you have auditd running 
> (if you stop that, it is dumped into the messages, which might be 
> confusing).
> 
> It keeps track of actions that were performed somewhere on lower level 
> than "average sysadmin" might need. In first place, they are needed for 
> the certifications in some environments. In second place, it is helpful 
> when you seek for more specific actions that were performed in the past.

I don't think anyone is against the idea of auditing per se. The
problem with the implementation is that a) audit lines overwhelm
everything else in the journal, and b) they are very hard to interpret
without a *lot* of background reading, i.e. they are genuinely useless
for most people other than professional sysadmins. Having them on by
default just means a huge waste of space and a good deal of
frustration.

poc
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Re: Annoying audit messages

[Jakub Jelen]

On 09/27/2016 02:22 AM, Alex wrote:

Hi,

On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 2:53 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
 wrote:

On Mon, 2016-09-26 at 14:46 -0400, Alex wrote:

Hi all,

I recall seeing an rsyslog entry to prevent these messages from
filling my messages logs, but it no longer appears to work with f24.
Is there a more specific method to disable audit messages?

Sep 26 14:40:56 alex kernel: audit: type=2404
audit(1474915256.442:724): pid=3297 uid=0 auid=4294967295
ses=4294967295 msg='op=destroy kind=server
fp=SHA256:c3:77:02:0b:2c:82:43:05:c5:50:ff:e6:99:f1:3f:1a:1d:6a:51:b7:a4:cb:45:55:37:66:95:46:51:9b:80:d2
direction=? spid=3297 suid=0  exe="/usr/sbin/sshd" hostname=?
addr=107.155.77.2 terminal=? res=success'

I'm not using selinux, and have enabled rsyslog. They're just not helpful to me.

Edit /etc/default/grub. Look for the line beginning GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX.
Add "audit=0" to the end of that line. Run:

grub2-mkconfig --output /boot/grub2/grub.cfg

Audit will be turned off when you reboot. To turn it off without
rebooting, do:

auditctl -e 0

Thanks very much, very helpful. What is the reason this is enabled by
default? Don't other people find it obnoxious and unhelpful?

How does this information help the average sysadmin?
Audit is not just a log. For that reason, it is not dumped to the same 
files (/var/log/secure, /var/log/messages) as other logs, but into 
separate file (/var/log/audit/audit.log), when you have auditd running 
(if you stop that, it is dumped into the messages, which might be 
confusing).


It keeps track of actions that were performed somewhere on lower level 
than "average sysadmin" might need. In first place, they are needed for 
the certifications in some environments. In second place, it is helpful 
when you seek for more specific actions that were performed in the past.


Your example shows an event, when the server private key was zeroed 
before exit or before changing to unprivileged process, who should not 
see the content of the private keys.


Regards,

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Associate Software Engineer
Security Technologies
Red Hat
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