Re: F26 OpenVpn at boot

2017-08-18 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 08/18/2017 02:42 PM, mark2...@openmailbox.org wrote:

I've just set up an openvpn connection on a Fedora 26 desktop. But I can't 
find/remember how to set it so that it's activated when the wired connection is 
activated and if openvpn fails the also the wired connection is taken down. In 
previous Fedora versions wasn't there a legacy network connection GUI that had 
this option? How is it done nowadays?


Install nm-connection-editor, it's still there.
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F26 OpenVpn at boot

2017-08-18 Thread mark2015
I've just set up an openvpn connection on a Fedora 26 desktop. But I can't 
find/remember how to set it so that it's activated when the wired connection is 
activated and if openvpn fails the also the wired connection is taken down. In 
previous Fedora versions wasn't there a legacy network connection GUI that had 
this option? How is it done nowadays?

/Mark
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Re: rpmbuild --rebuiild with config options

2017-08-18 Thread Gordon Messmer

On 08/18/2017 09:47 AM, Rick Stevens wrote:

Thanks for the link. Looking at that, the spec file would need to be
modified:

%configure --with-dbus --with-gif --with-jpeg --with-png \
   --with-rsvg --with-tiff --with-xft --with-xpm \
   --with-x-toolkit=gtk3 --with-gpm=no --with-xwidgets \
   --with-modules %{?_with_all}

and rpmbuild invoked as:

rpmbuild ... --with all ...

(note the space between "with" and "all"). I think that's what's needed.



I'm mostly sure you also need to add a "bcond" statement, and you'll 
*probably* spend some time massaging the file lists.


http://rpm.org/user_doc/conditional_builds.html

If you need to remove some of the flags currently passed to configure, 
you'd need to keep the existing configure command inside a conditional 
statement, and your minimal configure command in its "else" clause.


If this is your first foray into spec files, you're probably better off 
just making the changes you want, directly.

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Re: OS for Thinkpad T42??

2017-08-18 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2017-08-18 at 10:55 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote:
> Do you remember when Gates said we'd never need more than 64K of RAM?

It was 640K, but yeah. Of course I ran a 12-user PDP-11/45 with 256K of
RAM, but that was then.

poc
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Re: OS for Thinkpad T42??

2017-08-18 Thread Rick Stevens
On 08/18/2017 10:47 AM, Beartooth wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 15:15:26 +0800, Robbi Nespu wrote:
> 
>> I recommend Fedora 26, but need to tweak a lot. Because hardware spec
>> are 5 years behind. If me, i maybe use openbox or i3. Use netinstall for
>> minimal installation. I saw few post this laptop has kernel issue and
>> unbootable, where you live? It better find someone new to make a custom
>> kernel for your usage.
> 
>   Ouch! I was planning to give it away, if once I get it working 
> well again. Netinstall I've done before, and can hope to succeed again. 
> But kernels are way over my head, and I doubt my intended recipient even 
> knows Linux. Methinks I better try the memory upgrade and netinstall, and 
> if both fail, I'll offer it to anyone on my local LUG who can give it a 
> good home ...

My guess is yeah, it'll need more memory--regardless of what "modern"
OS you manage to install on it. I think even Windows 10 has a minimum of
1GB for a 32-bit environment and 16GB of disk. Fun, fun, fun!

Do you remember when Gates said we'd never need more than 64K of RAM?
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Re: OS for Thinkpad T42??

2017-08-18 Thread Beartooth
On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 15:15:26 +0800, Robbi Nespu wrote:

> I recommend Fedora 26, but need to tweak a lot. Because hardware spec
> are 5 years behind. If me, i maybe use openbox or i3. Use netinstall for
> minimal installation. I saw few post this laptop has kernel issue and
> unbootable, where you live? It better find someone new to make a custom
> kernel for your usage.

Ouch! I was planning to give it away, if once I get it working 
well again. Netinstall I've done before, and can hope to succeed again. 
But kernels are way over my head, and I doubt my intended recipient even 
knows Linux. Methinks I better try the memory upgrade and netinstall, and 
if both fail, I'll offer it to anyone on my local LUG who can give it a 
good home ...

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Re: rpmbuild --rebuiild with config options

2017-08-18 Thread Rick Stevens
On 08/17/2017 07:14 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 4:50 PM, Amadeus W.M.  wrote:
>> I'm trying to put together a minimal emacs rpm and I'm trying this, with
>> the ensuing error:
>>
>> rpmbuild --rebuild emacs-25.2-3.fc25.src.rpm --without-all
>> rpmbuild: --without-all: unknown option
> 
> 
> Looking at the emacs spec (available at
> https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/emacs/tree/master), I don't see any
> "with" options defined for this package, so there's no way to specify
> such options, nor any way to pass options to ./configure.

Thanks for the link. Looking at that, the spec file would need to be
modified:

%configure --with-dbus --with-gif --with-jpeg --with-png \
   --with-rsvg --with-tiff --with-xft --with-xpm \
   --with-x-toolkit=gtk3 --with-gpm=no --with-xwidgets \
   --with-modules %{?_with_all}

and rpmbuild invoked as:

rpmbuild ... --with all ...

(note the space between "with" and "all"). I think that's what's needed.

I don't know it's necessary as the "--with-modules" looks like it'd
build pretty much everything, but I don't use emacs often and wouldn't
use any of its "sophisticated" features. I administer a LOT of machines
and I can generally rely on having vi/vim installed. Emacs...not so
much.
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Re: Bluetooth Audio segfaults

2017-08-18 Thread Rick Stevens
On 08/18/2017 05:21 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 08/18/2017 02:18 AM, Florian Sievert wrote:
>> Hi there,
>>
>> I reported a few weeks ago an issue I observed when trying to pair and
>> use a bluetooth audio speaker to a Fedora26 system. The issue was
>> reported at:
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1469961
>>
>> However so far there had not been any reaction. The issue was observed
>> from multiple users I know and had been reproduced with different audio
>> speakers. So my assumption currently is that the bluetooth audio is
>> completely broken under Fedora 26. Can anyone confirm this issue or at
>> least confirm that it is working for him? As this is an issue that not
>> allow to use existing hardware correctly, I would appreciate if anyone
>> having ideas to possibly working arround the segfaults.
>>
>> I am looking forward for any suggestions :)
> 
> Also, this problem isn't limited to Fedora.
> 
> https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/53442

I have a bluetooth speaker at home and I'll try to couple it this
weekend. However, since there is an archlinux bug also filed against
it (see above), it's obviously upstream from the distributions. This is
why I recommended emailing the bluetooth group directly:

http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html#linux-bluetooth

or getting on their IRC channels to see if they can offer suggestions:

irc.freenode.net
#bluez (development related topics)
#bluez-users (non-development related topics)
#bluez-gsoc (for Google Summer of Code)

Don't know if that'll be of any help, but live bodies on IRC may be
useful.
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Re: tcp_wrappers deprecation

2017-08-18 Thread Jakub Jelen
On Tue, 2017-08-15 at 13:58 +0200, Jakub Jelen wrote:
> Hello Fedora devels and users,
> 
> more than three years ago, the same topic started discussion if we
> want
> this package in Fedora or not and how [1]. The discussion resulted
> mostly in flames and in the removal of the dependency on tcp_wrappers
> from systemd. But it was quite agreed that it is considered as a
> security layer for some users, if they use it correctly, or something
> that is or should be replaced by firewalls.
> 
> So can we discuss it now once more without the affiliation to
> systemd?
> The fact is that we still do not have any other replacement except
> firewalls. But do we need one?
> 
> The complete removal of the package is probably not a wise step, even
> though we can not find tcp_wrappers in recent SuSE anymore [2]. It is
> still available in Arch [3] without other tools depending on it. To
> be
> fair, Debian [4] is still building tools (for example openssh) with a
> build-time support for it.
> 
> My primary concern is OpenSSH, which upstream dropped support for
> tcp_wrappers three years ago (late 2014) [5] and since then we are
> maintaining one more downstream patch. But this effort should be
> coordinated among other components to simplify the transition for
> users
> who insist on using it (using tcpd).
> 
> Removing the dependency will also allow us to trim the default
> install for few more Kb.
> 
> If there will be no significant drawbacks, I will progress with
> filling
> a system wide change for Fedora 28 and I will pull the maintainers of
> other tolls using libwrap into the round and discussion.

Hello,
In Fedora 26, there is over 50 packages using tcp_wrappers as a build-
time dependency:

$ dnf repoquery --whatrequires 'libwrap.so.0()(64bit)'|grep x86_64
389-ds-base-snmp-0:1.3.6.6-2.fc26.x86_64 rmeggins
aeskulap-0:0.2.2-0.27.beta1.fc26.x86_64  jenslody
apcupsd-0:3.14.14-5.fc26.x86_64  tibbs
apcupsd-cgi-0:3.14.14-5.fc26.x86_64
apcupsd-gui-0:3.14.14-5.fc26.x86_64
apt-cacher-ng-0:0.9.0-3.fc26.x86_64  kenjiro
audit-0:2.7.7-1.fc26.x86_64  sgrubb
bacula-client-0:7.4.7-1.fc26.x86_64  slaanesh
bacula-director-0:7.4.7-1.fc26.x86_64
bacula-libs-0:7.4.7-1.fc26.x86_64
bacula-storage-0:7.4.7-1.fc26.x86_64
bacula2-client-0:2.4.4-24.fc26.x86_64limb
conserver-0:8.2.1-3.fc24.x86_64  jkastner
ctk-devel-0:0.1-0.2.20151015gitbdc8cac.fc26.x86_64   bizdelnick
ctk-dicom-0:0.1-0.2.20151015gitbdc8cac.fc26.x86_64
cyrus-imapd-0:3.0.1-7.fc26.x86_64landgraf
dcmtk-0:3.6.1-4.fc24.x86_64  ignatenkobrain
dovecot-1:2.2.31-3.fc26.x86_64   mhlavink
exim-0:4.89-1.fc26.x86_64dwmw2
flow-tools-0:0.68.5.1-18.fc26.x86_64 stingray
foghorn-0:0.1.6-12.fc26.x86_64   rohara  
gsi-openssh-server-0:7.5p1-1.fc26.x86_64 ellert
libvirt-snmp-0:0.0.3-7.fc24.x86_64   mprivozn
libyaz-0:5.14.11-6.fc26.x86_64   guidograzioli
lldpd-0:0.9.7-5.fc26.x86_64  jhogarth
net-snmp-1:5.7.3-15.fc26.x86_64  jsafrane
net-snmp-agent-libs-1:5.7.3-15.fc26.x86_64
nfs-utils-1:2.1.1-5.rc4.fc26.x86_64  steved
ngircd-0:24-2.fc26.x86_64ixs
nrpe-0:3.0.1-4.fc26.x86_64   smooge
nut-0:2.7.4-7.fc26.x86_64mhlavink
ocserv-0:0.11.8-1.fc26.x86_64nmav
openhpi-subagent-0:2.3.4-28.fc26.x86_64  sharkcz
openldap-servers-0:2.4.44-10.fc26.x86_64 mhonek
opensips-snmpstats-0:2.2.3-1.fc26.x86_64 ivaxer
openssh-server-0:7.5p1-2.fc26.x86_64 jjelen
pptpd-0:1.4.0-11.fc26.x86_64 jskarvad
prelude-manager-0:3.1.0-2.fc26.x86_64totol
proftpd-0:1.3.6-1.fc26.x86_64itamarjp
ptpd-0:2.3.1-4.fc24.x86_64   pbrobinson
pulseaudio-libs-0:10.0-4.fc26.x86_64 lennart
quagga-0:1.1.1-2.fc26.x86_64 mruprich
quota-rpc-1:4.03-8.fc26.x86_64   ppisar
redir-0:2.2.1-16.fc26.x86_64 itamarjp
rpcbind-0:0.2.4-7.rc2.fc26.x86_64steved
rwhoisd-0:1.5.9.6-6.fc26.x86_64  ppisar
sendmail-0:8.15.2-14.fc26.x86_64 jskarvad
slapi-nis-0:0.56.1-2.fc26.x86_64 abbra
sslh-0:1.18-2.fc26.x86_64jhogarth
stunnel-0:5.41-1.fc26.x86_64 tmraz
syslog-ng-0:3.9.1-1.fc26.x86_64  marcusk
tcp_wrappers-devel-0:7.6-85.fc26.x86_64  jjelen
tftp-server-0:5.2-20.fc26.x86_64 jsynacek
up-imapproxy-0:1.2.8-0.7.20130726svn14389.fc24.x86_64 cmadams
uwsgi-router-access-0:2.0.15-1.fc26.x86_64   kad
vsftpd

Re: Bluetooth Audio segfaults

2017-08-18 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/18/2017 02:18 AM, Florian Sievert wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I reported a few weeks ago an issue I observed when trying to pair and
> use a bluetooth audio speaker to a Fedora26 system. The issue was
> reported at:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1469961
>
> However so far there had not been any reaction. The issue was observed
> from multiple users I know and had been reproduced with different audio
> speakers. So my assumption currently is that the bluetooth audio is
> completely broken under Fedora 26. Can anyone confirm this issue or at
> least confirm that it is working for him? As this is an issue that not
> allow to use existing hardware correctly, I would appreciate if anyone
> having ideas to possibly working arround the segfaults.
>
> I am looking forward for any suggestions :)

Also, this problem isn't limited to Fedora.

https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/53442

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Re: Fedora 26 server installation

2017-08-18 Thread isdtor
isdtor writes:
> I'm trying to kickstart a Fedora 26 server from a local repo. What is the 
> magic sauce to force installation from local repo only?
> 
> The PXE file points inst.stage2 to the local repo and sets inst.geoloc=0, yet 
> after "Starting automated install", download of repodata/* files, there is no 
> more access to the local repo. I'm logging https requests to servers like 
> 67.219.144.68, proxy06.fedoraproject.org, vm3.fedora.ibiblio.org etc. instead.
 
Not only that, but inst.proxy also doesn't work as expected. Installation repo 
access is proxied, but access to Fedora mirrors is direct. I'm wondering if 
this is related, https://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=313623 .
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Re: OS for Thinkpad T42??

2017-08-18 Thread Robbi Nespu
I recommend Fedora 26, but need to tweak a lot. Because hardware spec are 5
years behind. If me, i maybe use openbox or i3. Use netinstall for minimal
installation. I saw few post this laptop has kernel issue and unbootable,
where you live? It better find someone new to make a custom kernel for your
usage.

On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 2:28 PM, ChunYu Wang  wrote:

> I will also recommend debian as George N. White III said in another mail...
>
> - Chunyu
>
> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 1:32 AM, Beartooth  wrote:
> >
> >  Some years ago, I bought an
> >  IBM-refurbished Thinkpad T42, meaning to
> >  devote it to use with a Garmin UPS, under
> >  Linux of course. It turned out not to be
> >  suitable for that.
> >
> > I put it into the guest room, where
> >  it also got little or no use. Until last
> >  week, it still had Fedora 22. I've been
> >  trying for days to get F26, or 25, or even
> >  24 onto it.
> >
> >It demanded an i386, 32-bit .iso;
> >  and I did finally manage, after a lot of
> >  grief, to get it to seem to finish an
> >  installation. Upon rebooting, it says only
> >  that it can't boot what it has!
> >
> > As a last resort, I've been looking
> >  for a Puppy Linux version. The download
> >  page offers versions for Ubuntu (which
> >  affects me like sand in the teeth),
> >  Slackware (which I've never even seen
> >  running), and M$. Oh, and also for the
> >  eeePC.
> >
> > Is there hope??
> >  --
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> > What do they know of country, who only country know?
> >
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