Re: repos for Fedora 26 i386 (Mate) network install?

2017-10-14 Thread Samuel Sieb 

On 10/14/2017 07:37 PM, Franta Hanzlík wrote:

Hello Ralf and Jeff,
thank you for your answers. I finally found the repos descriptions here:

ftp://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/fedora-secondary/releases/26/Everything/i386/os/Packages/f/fedora-release-26-1.noarch.rpm
ftp://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/local/fedora/26/i386/os/Packages/bellet-release-26-1.noarch.rpm
ftp://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/remi/fedora/26/remi/i386/remi-release-26-2.fc26.remi.noarch.rpm
ftp://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/rpmfusion/free/fedora/releases/26/Everything/i386/os/Packages/r/rpmfusion-free-release-26-1.noarch.rpm
ftp://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/rpmfusion/nonfree/fedora/releases/26/Everything/i386/os/Packages/r/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-26-1.noarch.rpm
ftp://mirrors.ircam.fr/pub/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetccrma/26/i386/planetccrma-repo-1.1-3.fc26.ccrma.noarch.rpm


Or you could just go to the websites of each project where they provide 
the release rpms.



My troubles were especially with the determination of the places of the
Fedora repos itself - thanks to my error with the evaluation of the metalink
reference to the Fedora 26/i386 mirror list, and also because I did not find
mirrors on any server I used before. The explanation was simple - while
the metalink 
https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=fedora-26=x86_64
returns 77 sites of mirrors, the metalink for i386 return only 5 (!) sites
- that were not the ones I was looking for.


Why does that matter?  dnf will use the metalink and find the mirrors 
that are available.  What are you trying to do?



Reason why I'm using i386 arch - I have quite a number 8+ year old PCs,
that are quite sufficient for work and have only 0.5 - 2 GB of RAM.
(and although some of them should perhaps run on x86_64, I do not like
actual 32- and 64-bit SW mishmash on x86_64 (F26/x86_64 release has 19281
x86_64.rpm packages and 8200 .i[3456]86.rpm - 30%!). 10+ years ago I was
More than ten years ago I worked with Linux on DEC Alpha servers/ws, and
pure 64-bit wasn't problem - and now, 15 years later, we still sin for
the backward compatibility of x86_64 architecture. ;)


You can run pure 64-bit if you want.  The 32-bit libraries are just 
available if necessary, for example wine or various third-party 
applications.

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Re: iscan

2017-10-14 Thread Franta Hanzlík 
On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 00:25:54 +0200
"Patrick Dupre"  wrote:

> >
> > On 10/14/2017 02:56 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:  
>  [...]  
>  [...]  
>  [...]  
> > > 
> > > I cannot have the scanner working.
> > > 
> > > The epson printer does no see the computer on the USB.
> > > Do I need to install it with on the LAN?  
> > 
> > Why is the printer trying to see the computer?  Have you tried running 
> > the Simple Scan program to see if you can scan?  I use my HP 
> > printer/scanner over the network.  Are you maybe referring to the button 
> > on the printer to trigger the scan?  Those require protocols that the 
> > printer manufacturers want to keep hidden for some reason.  
> 
> OK, it seems that I need to go through the network and not the USB
> cable.

IMO it isn't essential if you use USB or network access. Is your Epson
MFC supported by SANE project?:
http://www.sane-project.org/sane-supported-devices.html
Also Epson itself offers SANE compatible drivers:
http://support.epson.net/linux/en/imagescanv3.php?version=1.3.20
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Re: repos for Fedora 26 i386 (Mate) network install?

2017-10-14 Thread Franta Hanzlík 
On Sat, 14 Oct 2017 17:47:44 +0200
Ralf Corsepius  wrote:

> On 10/14/2017 11:24 AM, Franta Hanzlík wrote:
> > I want to try Fedora 26 i386 (with my preferred Mate desktop).
> > I prefer network installation with custom kickstart config.
> > I found that install image can be downloaded on:
> > 
> > https://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora-secondary/releases/26/Workstation/i386/iso/Fedora-Workstation-netinst-i386-26-1.5.iso
> > 
> > But know anyone URLs for usual repos (os, updates,
> >   rpmfusion-{free,nonfree}{,-updates}, livna, ... ?
> > 
> > I feel as if now, with Fedora 26/i386 moving to fedora-secondary,
> >   installation became much more complicated.  
> 
> Why and how? I am aware Fedora's homepage does its best to hide the 
> i386, but just d/l the iso from the URL you mentioned above and try to 
> install it.
> 
> Unless you have a "really old" machine or are tripping general bugs (I 
> am not using Mate), this should "just work as usual".
> 
> Ralf

Hello Ralf and Jeff,
thank you for your answers. I finally found the repos descriptions here:

ftp://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/fedora-secondary/releases/26/Everything/i386/os/Packages/f/fedora-release-26-1.noarch.rpm
ftp://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/local/fedora/26/i386/os/Packages/bellet-release-26-1.noarch.rpm
ftp://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/remi/fedora/26/remi/i386/remi-release-26-2.fc26.remi.noarch.rpm
ftp://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/rpmfusion/free/fedora/releases/26/Everything/i386/os/Packages/r/rpmfusion-free-release-26-1.noarch.rpm
ftp://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/rpmfusion/nonfree/fedora/releases/26/Everything/i386/os/Packages/r/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-26-1.noarch.rpm
ftp://mirrors.ircam.fr/pub/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetccrma/26/i386/planetccrma-repo-1.1-3.fc26.ccrma.noarch.rpm

My troubles were especially with the determination of the places of the
Fedora repos itself - thanks to my error with the evaluation of the metalink
reference to the Fedora 26/i386 mirror list, and also because I did not find
mirrors on any server I used before. The explanation was simple - while
the metalink 
https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=fedora-26=x86_64
returns 77 sites of mirrors, the metalink for i386 return only 5 (!) sites
- that were not the ones I was looking for.

Reason why I'm using i386 arch - I have quite a number 8+ year old PCs,
that are quite sufficient for work and have only 0.5 - 2 GB of RAM.
(and although some of them should perhaps run on x86_64, I do not like
actual 32- and 64-bit SW mishmash on x86_64 (F26/x86_64 release has 19281
x86_64.rpm packages and 8200 .i[3456]86.rpm - 30%!). 10+ years ago I was
More than ten years ago I worked with Linux on DEC Alpha servers/ws, and
pure 64-bit wasn't problem - and now, 15 years later, we still sin for
the backward compatibility of x86_64 architecture. ;)
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Re: iscan

2017-10-14 Thread Doug 


On 10/14/2017 05:02 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 10/14/2017 02:56 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:

Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 at 11:49 PM
From: "Samuel Sieb" 
To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Subject: Re: iscan

On 10/14/2017 02:38 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:

Which iscan for fedora?

I have an epson printer.


I don't understand your question.  I doubt that you need the iscan
firmware for any recent printers.  I suspect they are only for the old
standalone scanners.



I cannot have the scanner working.

The epson printer does no see the computer on the USB.
Do I need to install it with on the LAN?


Why is the printer trying to see the computer?  Have you tried running 
the Simple Scan program to see if you can scan?  I use my HP 
printer/scanner over the network.  Are you maybe referring to the 
button on the printer to trigger the scan?  Those require protocols 
that the printer manufacturers want to keep hidden for some reason.

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The following applies to PCLOS, and it might apply to you also:
Edit /etc/sane.d/dll.conf: comment out epson, comment in epson2. (IE to 
comment out put  # in front of the word. To comment in,
remove a # from in front of the word. You probably have to do this in a 
root environment--I don't remember.

 You may want to also comment in epkowa.
--doug
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Re: iscan

2017-10-14 Thread Patrick Dupre 
>
> On 10/14/2017 02:56 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> >> Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 at 11:49 PM
> >> From: "Samuel Sieb" 
> >> To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
> >> Subject: Re: iscan
> >>
> >> On 10/14/2017 02:38 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> >>> Which iscan for fedora?
> >>>
> >>> I have an epson printer.
> >>
> >> I don't understand your question.  I doubt that you need the iscan
> >> firmware for any recent printers.  I suspect they are only for the old
> >> standalone scanners.
> >> 
> > 
> > I cannot have the scanner working.
> > 
> > The epson printer does no see the computer on the USB.
> > Do I need to install it with on the LAN?
> 
> Why is the printer trying to see the computer?  Have you tried running 
> the Simple Scan program to see if you can scan?  I use my HP 
> printer/scanner over the network.  Are you maybe referring to the button 
> on the printer to trigger the scan?  Those require protocols that the 
> printer manufacturers want to keep hidden for some reason.

OK, it seems that I need to go through the network and not the USB
cable.

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Re: iscan

2017-10-14 Thread Samuel Sieb 

On 10/14/2017 02:56 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:

Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 at 11:49 PM
From: "Samuel Sieb" 
To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Subject: Re: iscan

On 10/14/2017 02:38 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:

Which iscan for fedora?

I have an epson printer.


I don't understand your question.  I doubt that you need the iscan
firmware for any recent printers.  I suspect they are only for the old
standalone scanners.



I cannot have the scanner working.

The epson printer does no see the computer on the USB.
Do I need to install it with on the LAN?


Why is the printer trying to see the computer?  Have you tried running 
the Simple Scan program to see if you can scan?  I use my HP 
printer/scanner over the network.  Are you maybe referring to the button 
on the printer to trigger the scan?  Those require protocols that the 
printer manufacturers want to keep hidden for some reason.

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Re: iscan

2017-10-14 Thread Patrick Dupre 


> Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 at 11:49 PM
> From: "Samuel Sieb" 
> To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
> Subject: Re: iscan
>
> On 10/14/2017 02:38 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> > Which iscan for fedora?
> > 
> > I have an epson printer.
> 
> I don't understand your question.  I doubt that you need the iscan 
> firmware for any recent printers.  I suspect they are only for the old 
> standalone scanners.
> 

I cannot have the scanner working.

The epson printer does no see the computer on the USB.
Do I need to install it with on the LAN?

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Re: iscan

2017-10-14 Thread Samuel Sieb 

On 10/14/2017 02:38 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:

Which iscan for fedora?

I have an epson printer.


I don't understand your question.  I doubt that you need the iscan 
firmware for any recent printers.  I suspect they are only for the old 
standalone scanners.

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iscan

2017-10-14 Thread Patrick Dupre 
Hello,

Which iscan for fedora?

I have an epson printer.

Thank

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Re: repos for Fedora 26 i386 (Mate) network install?

2017-10-14 Thread Ralf Corsepius 

On 10/14/2017 11:24 AM, Franta Hanzlík wrote:

I want to try Fedora 26 i386 (with my preferred Mate desktop).
I prefer network installation with custom kickstart config.
I found that install image can be downloaded on:

https://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora-secondary/releases/26/Workstation/i386/iso/Fedora-Workstation-netinst-i386-26-1.5.iso

But know anyone URLs for usual repos (os, updates,
  rpmfusion-{free,nonfree}{,-updates}, livna, ... ?

I feel as if now, with Fedora 26/i386 moving to fedora-secondary,
  installation became much more complicated.


Why and how? I am aware Fedora's homepage does its best to hide the 
i386, but just d/l the iso from the URL you mentioned above and try to 
install it.


Unless you have a "really old" machine or are tripping general bugs (I 
am not using Mate), this should "just work as usual".


Ralf



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Re: repos for Fedora 26 i386 (Mate) network install?

2017-10-14 Thread Jeff Backus 
Hi Franta,

On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 5:24 AM, Franta Hanzlík  wrote:
> I want to try Fedora 26 i386 (with my preferred Mate desktop).
> I prefer network installation with custom kickstart config.
> I found that install image can be downloaded on:
>
> https://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora-secondary/releases/26/Workstation/i386/iso/Fedora-Workstation-netinst-i386-26-1.5.iso
>
> But know anyone URLs for usual repos (os, updates,
>  rpmfusion-{free,nonfree}{,-updates}, livna, ... ?

The yum/dnf repo files for os and updates should be included in the
installer. RPMFusion still has the i386 listed on its main page, so
you should be able to get repo files from there.

> I feel as if now, with Fedora 26/i386 moving to fedora-secondary,
>  installation became much more complicated.

I understand. Unfortunately, we x86 users are a small part of the
community these days.

jeff

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repos for Fedora 26 i386 (Mate) network install?

2017-10-14 Thread Franta Hanzlík 
I want to try Fedora 26 i386 (with my preferred Mate desktop).
I prefer network installation with custom kickstart config.
I found that install image can be downloaded on:

https://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora-secondary/releases/26/Workstation/i386/iso/Fedora-Workstation-netinst-i386-26-1.5.iso

But know anyone URLs for usual repos (os, updates,
 rpmfusion-{free,nonfree}{,-updates}, livna, ... ?

I feel as if now, with Fedora 26/i386 moving to fedora-secondary,
 installation became much more complicated.
-- 
Thanks, František Hanzlík
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Re: EXTERNAL: This morning's update & bluetooth

2017-10-14 Thread Matthias Runge 
On Fri, Oct 06, 2017 at 03:00:40PM +, Frank Elsner wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Oct 2017 10:10:11 -0400 Wells, Roger K. wrote:
> 
>   [ ... ]
> > Also just discovered:
> > Network drives (cifs) that were in use are no longer mountable on the 
> > 4.13.4-200 kernel.
> > Reverting back to 4.12.14-300 and all is well again.
> 
> Same here. Took me some time to revert. Could not imagine a kernel prob.

with 4.13, smb version 1 is deprecated, it now uses version 3 by
default.

Taken from https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/9/3/155

This time it's not really a kernel security issue, but a generic
protocol security issue.

The change in question is simply changing the default cifs behavior:
instead of defaulting to SMB 1.0 (which you really should not use:
just google for "stop using SMB1" or similar), the default cifs mount
now defaults to a rather more modern SMB 3.0.

Now, because you shouldn't have been using SMB1 anyway, this shouldn't
affect anybody. But guess what? It almost certainly does affect some
people, because they blithely continued using SMB1 without really
thinking about it.

And you certainly _can_ continue to use SMB1, but due to the default
change, now you need to be *aware* of it. You may need to add an
explicit "vers=1.0" to your mount options in /etc/fstab or similar if
you *really* want SMB1.


adding vers=1.0 to mount options is what you want to do.
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