Re: New NVIDIA card with F26?
On 11/02/2017 08:34 PM, PropAAS DBA wrote: My main question is around the NVIDIA card, for the past several years I've been running laptops with integrated intel graphics and the default nouveau driver and things 'just work'. I don't really need high performance graphics like gaming or high intensive graphics operations, just standard business usage. Actually, you weren't using the nouveau driver because it's only used if you have an nVidia card and don't use the proprietary drivers. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: New NVIDIA card with F26?
On 11/03/17 11:34, PropAAS DBA wrote: > > My main question is around the NVIDIA card, for the past several years I've > been > running laptops with integrated intel graphics and the default nouveau driver > and > things 'just work'. I don't really need high performance graphics like gaming > or > high intensive graphics operations, just standard business usage. > > > Does anyone have any experience / insight per the below NVIDIA card and Fedora > (I'll be running Fedora 26 - KDE Spin)? > No, but you can simply get the LiveDVD and give it a try. > Is it likely I'll need to run NVIDIA drivers? If so is there an easy setup > without > needing to install the native driver each time a new kernel is released? Maybe > something like the akmod-nvidia drivers? > > One option, if you wan to use the nVidia drivers, is to use those supplied by RPMfusion which does recompile the nVidia modules when a new kernel is installed. -- Fedora Users List - The place to go to speculate endlessly signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
New NVIDIA card with F26?
Hi All; Apologies in advance for cross posting, I posted this question to the Fedora KDE list as well. I just purchased the below system online from Lenovo, did a bit of research and it seems like it should all work but I cut the research short and ordered it mostly because I have a serious patience deficiency My main question is around the NVIDIA card, for the past several years I've been running laptops with integrated intel graphics and the default nouveau driver and things 'just work'. I don't really need high performance graphics like gaming or high intensive graphics operations, just standard business usage. Does anyone have any experience / insight per the below NVIDIA card and Fedora (I'll be running Fedora 26 - KDE Spin)? Is it likely I'll need to run NVIDIA drivers? If so is there an easy setup without needing to install the native driver each time a new kernel is released? Maybe something like the akmod-nvidia drivers? Also, is there anything in the below specs that may be cause for concern? Thanks in advance for any advice... *ThinkPad P51s Mobile Workstation* Processor Intel Core i7-7600U Processor (4MB Cache, up to 3.90GHz) Camera IR & 720p HD Camera with Microphone Display 15.6" UHD (3840x2160), non-Touch, no WiGig, WLAN, WWAN Video Card NVIDIA Quadro M520 2GB GDDR5 Memory 32GB DDR4 2133MHz SoDIMM (16GBx2) Hard Drive 1 TB Solid State Drive OPAL2.0 PCIe-NVMe Wireless Card Intel Dual Band Wireless AC(2x2) 8265, Bluetooth Version 4.1 Only because it was not an option to eliminate the mobile card: Integrated Mobile Broadband upgradable ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Understanding VPN client options
Hi, On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 7:15 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2017-11-01 at 12:59 -0400, Alex wrote: >> Hi, I have a fedora26 desktop and would like to use a VPN to browse >> the Internet. What are my options? Do I need to connect to a VPN >> server service which then proxies my request to the remote site? >> >> Are any of the "free" VPN services legit, or do they all do it in >> exchange for something like either privacy or some browser plugin >> that's required? > > It depends on what you want to do. A VPN merely connects two endpoints > over a secure channel, but the endpoints can be: > * Your box > * Your local network (VPN to the router) > * A subset of processes within your box, using network namespaces > * Your own private server in a different location, or hosted in a >cloud provider > * A free or commercial VPN service provider I believe the endpoint in this case would a VPN service provider. > And which one you choose depends on your requirements, e.g. > * Disguise your location to circumvent geoblocking (in which case a >proxy may be enough) > * Protect your browsing history from your ISP or local admin policy > * Protect your communications from casual spying > * Protect your personal security from national governments Personal security, but also torrenting. > For general browsing, your simplest option is to use a VPN provider, > but which one depends on other factors including speed and cost. In > general, the free ones are not fast and the fast ones are not free. > Which are reliable in the sense of not logging your traffic or personal > data is a matter or trust and reputation. > > There is also the question of technical competence, e.g. a while back there > was a scare about DNS hijacking via IPv6 on the part of IPv4 providers > (https://www.techrepublic.com/article/ipv6-security-vulnerability-pokes-holes-in-vpn-providers-claims/). > > There are several comparison sites you can consult, e.g. > http://www.vpncomparison.org/ Thanks. It's been hard to find a trustworthy review site. >> The client VPN documentation available with the fedora25 docs is confusing: >> https://docs-old.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/25/html/Networking_Guide/sec-Establishing_a_VPN_Connection.html >> >> Where is this "Super key"? >> >> I know how to use Settings->Network to "Add a VPN" but I don't have an >> endpoint. > > No idea. UI indications in the Fedora docs are written for Gnome users > and I use KDE. However in my own case I just use a Shell script > downloaded from my VPN provider, which hooks into OpenVPN. That explains it. I've implemented openvpn in a subnet-to-subnet config before from the command-line. Much of this is research for my father-in-law and his fedora box. Is the shell script publically available? I'd be very interested in seeing how they're doing it. Thanks, Alex > > poc > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: f26 to f26 cups sharing problem
Well it works now, and the problem was a corrupted firewalld configuration. The hint was when I tried the brute force approach of telnet server.localdomain 631 and got "No route to host" indicating that the host resolution was working but the port was blocked on the server. One clean up and full reconfiguration of firewalld later, it's working. The older print server (with iptables) was easier to troubleshoot as I could just let everything pass through for testing. My error in testing here was that "systemctl stop firewalld.service" doesn't remove the firewall setup (like "iptables stop" would have). Thanks to all who suggested various approaches, it did help narrow it down. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: hybrid graphics laptop and nouveau
On 2 Nov 2017 12:07 pm, "AV" wrote: On Wed, 2017-11-01 at 11:35 +, James Hogarth wrote: > On 31 October 2017 at 17:37, AV wrote: > > Hello, > > > > This concerns an Asus Zenbook with hybrid graphics (Intel/Nvidia). > > > > 1) There are 2 ways to deactivate the nouveau driver: > >by adding 'modprobe.nouveau=0' to the kernel cmd line OR > >by adding 'modprobe.blacklist=nouveau rd.blacklist=nouveau'. > >Which is to be preferred? > > > > 2) I do the above because there is as yet no Nvidia driver that > >gives a hybrid solution like under Windows and the Intel driver > >is more than enough for my needs. > >However when using a solution as described in 1) the Nvidia chip > >will still drain power. Is there anyway to deactivate the chip? > >(short of removing it from the motherboard if possible). > > > > > > If you cannot disable the NV chip in the BIOS/firmware then you have > a > couple of options ... > > By default PRIME *should* be working ... are you certain the NV chip > is powered and drawing power? > > Check /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch (just cat it) and see if > the chip is already marked OFF (this requires nouveau to be loaded as > a driver IIRC so remove your blacklist). > > https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v4.10/gpu/vga-switcheroo.html > > If that already shows it off then you don't need to do anything else > as Intel will be default. > > Alternatively if that's not behaving as expected for you follow the > instructions for the bumblebee implementation: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bumblebee Thanks for the reply. I am familiar with the PRIME/switcheroo routines. However I am unable to set the NV chip into the OFF power state, it remains in the DynOff state. And you want to get rid of the nouveau driver as soon as possible because it only has rudimentary support for the NV chip and regularly freezes the laptop. I also don't want to use bumblebee or the NV chip. I am quite comfortable with the integrated Intel graphics and it works without problems. So the best option is to immediately edit the grub cmd line at install and blacklist nouveau and after install make this permanent. So I don't know if the NV chip is drawing power and I was asking if anybody knows of ways to check and control outside of the PRIME/switcheroo caboodle. AV ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org DynOFF indicates the chip is off and not drawing anything that will make any difference. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Thinkpad X301 Trackpoint Sensitivity Setting
I booted up my laptop yesterday to find that the Trackpoint sensitivity had
somehow dramatically increased such that a slight nudge sends the mouse pointer
flying across the screen, and clicking on any buttons or menu items requires me
to circle around the selected item like a plane approaching the runway before I
can finally make the selection.
I have no idea what caused this, and to my knowledge I haven't installed
anything manually or through daily updates that would cause such a dramatic
change. This laptop started as a Fedora 26 XFCE installation but I'm using i3wm
for my daily driver. Logging into XFCE and adjusting the Trackpoint ("pointing
stick") sensitivity in xfce4-settings-manager appears to have some
effect while in XFCE; these changes don't follow over to i3 and when I run
Settings under i3 any changes don't appear persist or have any effect (e.g. the
sensitivity defaults to 5; I set it to a more sane 2 and close the window. No
effect on the pointer speed, and re-opening Settings shows the sensitivity back
at 5).
Looking online, there is an enormous amount of vestigial information on just
where the configuration for Trackpoint settings is stored and how it is done,
often with no indication of which is the most recent method or what is
distro-specific. Some instructions are written for Ubuntu or Arch and mention
locations which don't exist. I've seen the solution related to xinput, evdev,
hal, udev; configurations should go in Xorg.conf
or /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-somenamedfile.conf or .xinitrc or...; there are
references to attributes being exposed
at /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/serio2/ which also doesn't exist on my
machine. In general, it's a confusing mess, and it's demanding a
disproportionately ridiculous amount of work just so I'm not constantly
overshooting toolbar buttons in LibreOffice.
I won't even try to diagnose what property might have magically changed in
from one day to the next that turned a perfectly working system into one with
this distracting annoyance; that way lies madness. But can anyone tell me
just WHERE I would go to attempt to change the sensitivity of a Thinkpad
Trackpoint (I suppose this would be the same place as general mouse/touchpad
settings) on a Fedora 26 installation? And more specifically, are there any
X300/301/similar-era Thinkpad users here who have had experiences configuring
your Trackpoint/touchpad in recent Fedora releases?
Thanks in advance.
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Tweaking Fedora
Within the next three weeks or so, barring any great surprises, I hope to be putting Fedora 27 onto four PCs, a laptop, and a netbook. IIRC, the netbook, which I haven't used recently, has F24 now; all the others are running 26. I'll do all I can by upgrading, because every time I do a fresh install, it costs me something more than a whole day per machine to do the tweaking I need. (I've been running Fedora since it was RedHat7; so my trifocal fingers and arthritic eyeballs know their jobs IF I get all the tweaks right -- a great boon and a bringer of cyber-survival, since I also keep getting slower and more forgetful) A correspondent on another list says one used to be able to use Mondo Rescue to grab all the settings on an existing install and clone them onto a new one. That would save me vast tedium. But the Mondo Rescue site lists only rpms for Fedora 23 and before. And either I'm garbling my correspondent's directions, or they don't work any more -- or both. I tried a few variations on "dnf install Mondo-xyzq". I also downloaded a few .rpms from Mondo's repository and ran "rpm -ivh" against them. Both tries failed. Is there a tutorial somewhere? Has Mondo Rescue forked into something with another name? Have the Fedora Gurux and Alpha Plus Technoids come up with a replacement while I wasn't looking?? -- Beartooth Staffwright, Not Quite Clueless Power User Remember I know little (precious little!) of where up is. -- /home/btth/sig/nqc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Cannot install bugzilla on F26: wrong error saying /var/lib/bugzilla/data/params.json file does not exist but it exists
Hi, I am trying to install bugzilla. checksetup.pl is happy, the http server is running (http://localhost shows something) but http://localhost/bugzilla shows this strange message: The /var/lib/bugzilla/data/params.json file does not exist. You probably need to run checksetup.pl. at Bugzilla/Config.pm line 334. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/bugzilla/index.cgi line 15. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/bugzilla/index.cgi line 15. However file /var/lib/bugzilla/data/params.json do exist! ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: hybrid graphics laptop and nouveau
On Wed, 2017-11-01 at 11:35 +, James Hogarth wrote: > On 31 October 2017 at 17:37, AV wrote: > > Hello, > > > > This concerns an Asus Zenbook with hybrid graphics (Intel/Nvidia). > > > > 1) There are 2 ways to deactivate the nouveau driver: > >by adding 'modprobe.nouveau=0' to the kernel cmd line OR > >by adding 'modprobe.blacklist=nouveau rd.blacklist=nouveau'. > >Which is to be preferred? > > > > 2) I do the above because there is as yet no Nvidia driver that > >gives a hybrid solution like under Windows and the Intel driver > >is more than enough for my needs. > >However when using a solution as described in 1) the Nvidia chip > >will still drain power. Is there anyway to deactivate the chip? > >(short of removing it from the motherboard if possible). > > > > > > If you cannot disable the NV chip in the BIOS/firmware then you have > a > couple of options ... > > By default PRIME *should* be working ... are you certain the NV chip > is powered and drawing power? > > Check /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch (just cat it) and see if > the chip is already marked OFF (this requires nouveau to be loaded as > a driver IIRC so remove your blacklist). > > https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v4.10/gpu/vga-switcheroo.html > > If that already shows it off then you don't need to do anything else > as Intel will be default. > > Alternatively if that's not behaving as expected for you follow the > instructions for the bumblebee implementation: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bumblebee Thanks for the reply. I am familiar with the PRIME/switcheroo routines. However I am unable to set the NV chip into the OFF power state, it remains in the DynOff state. And you want to get rid of the nouveau driver as soon as possible because it only has rudimentary support for the NV chip and regularly freezes the laptop. I also don't want to use bumblebee or the NV chip. I am quite comfortable with the integrated Intel graphics and it works without problems. So the best option is to immediately edit the grub cmd line at install and blacklist nouveau and after install make this permanent. So I don't know if the NV chip is drawing power and I was asking if anybody knows of ways to check and control outside of the PRIME/switcheroo caboodle. AV ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Understanding VPN client options
On Wed, 2017-11-01 at 12:59 -0400, Alex wrote: > Hi, I have a fedora26 desktop and would like to use a VPN to browse > the Internet. What are my options? Do I need to connect to a VPN > server service which then proxies my request to the remote site? > > Are any of the "free" VPN services legit, or do they all do it in > exchange for something like either privacy or some browser plugin > that's required? It depends on what you want to do. A VPN merely connects two endpoints over a secure channel, but the endpoints can be: * Your box * Your local network (VPN to the router) * A subset of processes within your box, using network namespaces * Your own private server in a different location, or hosted in a cloud provider * A free or commercial VPN service provider And which one you choose depends on your requirements, e.g. * Disguise your location to circumvent geoblocking (in which case a proxy may be enough) * Protect your browsing history from your ISP or local admin policy * Protect your communications from casual spying * Protect your personal security from national governments For general browsing, your simplest option is to use a VPN provider, but which one depends on other factors including speed and cost. In general, the free ones are not fast and the fast ones are not free. Which are reliable in the sense of not logging your traffic or personal data is a matter or trust and reputation. There is also the question of technical competence, e.g. a while back there was a scare about DNS hijacking via IPv6 on the part of IPv4 providers (https://www.techrepublic.com/article/ipv6-security-vulnerability-pokes-holes-in-vpn-providers-claims/). There are several comparison sites you can consult, e.g. http://www.vpncomparison.org/ > The client VPN documentation available with the fedora25 docs is confusing: > https://docs-old.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/25/html/Networking_Guide/sec-Establishing_a_VPN_Connection.html > > Where is this "Super key"? > > I know how to use Settings->Network to "Add a VPN" but I don't have an > endpoint. No idea. UI indications in the Fedora docs are written for Gnome users and I use KDE. However in my own case I just use a Shell script downloaded from my VPN provider, which hooks into OpenVPN. poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
