Re: f26 mariadb.service failed after multi-package update

2018-01-26 Thread Sjoerd Mullender
On 26/01/18 00:59, Stephen Morris wrote:
> On 26/1/18 10:49 am, Stephen Morris wrote:
>> On 25/1/18 4:33 am, John Pilkington wrote:
>>> On 24/01/18 17:09, John Pilkington wrote:
 sysstemctl | grep maria gives

 ● mariadb.service    loaded failed
 failed    MariaDB 10.1 database server

 There was a 'normal shutdown' of version 10.1.29

 version 10.1.30 reports:

 2018-01-24 13:55:42 140690185448192 [ERROR] mysqld: Can't
 create/write to file '/run/mariadb/mariadb.pid' (Errcode: 2 "No such
 file or directory")
 2018-01-24 13:55:42 140690185448192 [ERROR] Can't start server:
 can't create PID file: No such file or directory

 I reinstalled and it failed again.

 John P
>>>
>>> yumex-dnf offered 10.1.21-5 as a downgrade, and that is running.
>>
>> Just some info on this, I'm on F27 using mariadb (64 bit) 10.2.9-3 and
>> it does not appear to be exhibiting this issue in that systemctl
>> status mariadb shows that the service has started at boot time.
> 
> Just further to this, on my system, which may be a hangover from having
> installed the community-mysql packages first and using that environment
> before uninstalling these and installing the mariadb equivalents, the
> mariadb.pid file is placed in /run/mysqld which is owned by User/Group
> mysql. The time stamp on this file indicates that it was successfully
> created with this mornings boot.

See the bug report: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1538066

Quick fix until mariadb update arrives: add the following line to the
file /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/mariadb.conf:

d /run/mariadb 0755 mysql mysql -

> regards,
> 
> Steve
> 
>>
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> Steve
>>
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[SOLVED (?)] Re: f26 mariadb.service failed after multi-package update

2018-01-26 Thread John Pilkington

On 24/01/18 17:33, John Pilkington wrote:

On 24/01/18 17:09, John Pilkington wrote:

sysstemctl | grep maria gives

● mariadb.service    loaded failed failed 
MariaDB 10.1 database server


There was a 'normal shutdown' of version 10.1.29

version 10.1.30 reports:

2018-01-24 13:55:42 140690185448192 [ERROR] mysqld: Can't create/write 
to file '/run/mariadb/mariadb.pid' (Errcode: 2 "No such file or 
directory")
2018-01-24 13:55:42 140690185448192 [ERROR] Can't start server: can't 
create PID file: No such file or directory


I reinstalled and it failed again.

John P


yumex-dnf offered 10.1.21-5 as a downgrade, and that is running.


After enabling F26-updates-testing and upgrading mariadb I now have a 
curious mix of packages installed - but the service is running and 
appears to be working.



[john@HP_Fed ~]$ rpm -qa | grep mariadb
error: rpmdbNextIterator: skipping h#   17368 region trailer: BAD, tag 0 
type 0 offset 0 count 0

mariadb-server-10.1.30-2.fc26.x86_64
mariadb-devel-10.1.30-2.fc26.x86_64
mariadb-config-10.1.30-1.fc26.x86_64
mariadb-libs-10.1.30-2.fc26.x86_64
mariadb-errmsg-10.1.30-2.fc26.x86_64
mariadb-server-utils-10.1.30-2.fc26.x86_64
mariadb-debuginfo-10.0.27-1.fc23.x86_64
mariadb-common-10.1.30-2.fc26.x86_64
mariadb-10.1.30-2.fc26.x86_64
mariadb-embedded-10.1.30-2.fc26.x86_64
[john@HP_Fed ~]$
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Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

2018-01-26 Thread Tim
Getting back to your original question:

Allegedly, on or about 24 January 2018, InvalidPath sent:
> I run Plasma specifically, and in chasing down some journalctl errors
> today I found a few that were errors generated by gnome dependencies.
> Since I dont use Gnome I want to remove it.  However running dnf
> remove @gnome-desktop also want's to remove things like qemu, and
> seabios. Two VERY IMPORTANT things that I use on a daily basis with
> my WIn10 kvm guest.
> 
> Is it possible to remove gnome but leave the unused and dependant
> packages?

The usual way to simplistically deal with this kind of thing is to:

   1. Remove the offending package(s), gnome, etc.  (So long as it doesn't
  involve removing the entire OS.)
   2. Reinstall the wanted package(s), qemu, seabios, etc.
   3. Put up with the extra stuff that gets dragged in.

Sure, you ain't gonna use them, but trying to forcefully remove things
and manually deal with dependencies (whether they're actually needed
for what you need to do, or just that other things insist on dragging
them in), is a major pain.  And, you'll be faced with that pain every
time you update or install new packages.  Not to mention the strong
chance of you borking your system.

The three steps I've mentioned (above), should be all that you need to
do, providing that you haven't already borked your system.

Some of the errors you're seeing logged probably are just programs
checking for some *feature* then moaning about it not being there,
rather than being an error message about it not being able to do it's
job.  This can be ignored, or filtered out.

By way of example, every time I play a file with mplayer, it complains
about a few things:

do_connect: could not connect to socket
connect: No such file or directory
Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote 
control.

It's looking for things that I don't use, want, nor need.  It's just
checking for things that it could be doing.  So I ignore those
messages.

Now, on the other hand, a message about unable to play the file I want
to, those messages I do pay attention to.

If you really don't want any gnome files on your system, the other
approach is to do a fresh install from a non-gnome installation disk
(Mate, KDE, LXDE, whatever floats your boat).  And they'll come with
the bare minimum of other system files included.  But the moment you
install some Gnome application, you're going to get a boatload of Gnome
files to go with it.  Perhaps not as much as a full Gnome installation,
perhaps so many that it's not worth the fight to be rid of them.

The situation's not solely gnome.  KDE comes with a lot of baggage too.
 So much that I only install one desktop on my systems.  At the moment,
it's the Mate desktop (which behaves like old Gnome 2).

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Re: PHP/apache issue after update

2018-01-26 Thread Bill Shirley

I posted a reply four days ago.
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/LHUCQDLCFP5NK6AQSPNSCOGKRYGKKTID/
Did you try it?

Use mpm_event and php-fpm and .user.ini.

Bill

On 1/25/2018 10:44 AM, Emmett Culley wrote:

On 01/24/2018 05:14 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:

On 01/24/2018 03:09 PM, Emmett Culley wrote:

After a recent upgrade some development web sites served from my workstation 
stopped working.  I've narrowed it down to the php_value auto_prepend_file 
directive not working.

This is in the /etc/httpd/conf.d/csite.conf file:


Require all granted
AllowOverride none
php_value error_log /var/dev/logs/caiet_error_log
php_value auto_prepend_file /var/dev/csite/site/host-map.inc


The file /var/dev/csite/site/host-map.inc does not get loaded and this causes a 500 error.   I've 
tried configuring apache as MPM = "prefork" (the new default seems to be 
"event"), but that made no difference.

Note that all five other sites that use the auto_prepend_file directive no 
longer work either.  All other development sites on my workstation work as 
expected.

Any ideas where to look further would be appreciated.  Fedora 27 is fully up to 
date.

Check your selinux logs (or use sealert). Odds are that selinux is
blocking access to /var/dev/csite/site since it's not part of the
standard /var/www/* paths that Apache is permitted to access (unless you
labeled the /var/dev/csite stuff with "httpd_sys_content_t" or you've
disabled selinux or put it in permissive mode).

Note that using PHP as a module in Apache using anything other than
the prefork MPM isn't a good idea. The "event" or "worker" MPMs put
Apache in multithreaded mode (generally a good thing), and while PHP
itself is multithread-safe, MANY of the libraries that PHP uses are not.

For event or worker MPMs, you should change over to php-fpm where PHP
runs as a separate process rather than as part of Apache. Apache talks
to it via either a local TCP port (typically 127.0.0.1:9000) or
a Unix-domain socket. You will need to modify your Apache configs
appropriately to use php-fpm, but the speed increase and decreased
load on your machine would be a benefit.
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Thanks for the response.  Selinux is disabled and I've set MPM to prefork, and 
still, the php_value directives are ignored.

I've tried putting the directives in the .htaccess file and setting 
AllowOverride to all, and still the php directives are ignores.  And yet all of 
the PHP sites that do not need those directives work just fine.

Note that if I misspell a PHP directive apache fails to start as you would 
expect.  So, I know the directives are getting read.  They are just ignored.

I'll try putting the directive in the php.ini file to see if it still ignored.  
Of course that wouldn't work long term as each site needs that directive to be 
specific to that site.

So, when will PHP be multithread safe?  Is there a list of libraries or methods 
that are not multithread capable?

Emmett
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Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

2018-01-26 Thread InvalidPath
On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 12:24 AM, Ed Greshko  wrote:

> On 01/26/18 15:01, Joe Zeff wrote:
> > On 01/25/2018 07:54 PM, InvalidPath wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Ok so tonight I tried enabling, and I had to manually rm or mv the
> existing
> >> display-manager.service file because enabling another DE would not
> overwrite it. I
> >> tried both SDDM and LightDM... neither of which would boot correctly,
> all  got was
> >> a black screen with no mouse. Alt+F# would not work either. So I'm
> thinking she
> >> locked up tight as a drum.
> >
> > First you disable the old DM, then enable the new one.
>
> systemctl -f enable sddm
>
> does what is needed.  The "key" is the -f which means "force"
>
>-f, --force
>When used with enable, overwrite any existing conflicting
> symlinks.
>
>
> FWIW, I had already given this command to the OP in a different thread.
>
>
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>
@Ed I know /etc/systemd/system/display-manager.service is a symlink, I use
zsh so I saw the light blue flashing text in my terminal ;)

And neither works meaning, I tried replacing this symlink with one
pointing to /usr/lib/systemd/system/sddm.service
 because the command you gave me would not overwrite the symlink.. and I
even ran it as root but it still refused. No clue why really but honestly I
didnt care enough to find out. So I manually created a new symlink to teh
sddm file.  Then later on I created one (overwriting the default) to the
LightDM service file.  All to no avail.

And by boot correctly in last nights escapades I mean that this time... I
did not even get a mouse cursor... just black.
And I did remove the Gnome bits but this time I did it individually after
'sudo --exclude='qemu* libvirt*' remove gnome-' which after
many of these the GDM was removed, I ended up reinstalling GDM* which in
turn reinstalled every BLASTED thing that I had just removed beforehand.
So frustrating.

I did check the contents of /var/lib/sddm/state.conf and it references
gnome-desktop of all things!  Why is it so bloody hard to change the
Display Managers up in here??

@Joe So are you meaning that I should mask or delete the symlink to my
current DM, maybe reboot then create one for teh other.. like SDDM or
LightDM?
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Re: downloading ALL Packages of a fedora release.

2018-01-26 Thread JD
It's quite alright.
At any rate, the fedora release packages would not have helped a lot,
because the crucial packages had to come from rpmfusion in order
to enable the functioning of the broadcom 4322 chipset.
Cheers,
JD

On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 2:18 AM, Terry Polzin  wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 8:30 PM, JD  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 01/25/2018 07:14 AM, Terry Polzin wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 8:38 AM, Terry Polzin >> > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 8:35 PM, JD >> > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 01/14/2018 02:22 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>>>
>>> On 01/15/18 05:19, Ed Greshko wrote:
>>>
>>> kernel-devel  x86_64 4.14.13-300.fc27
>>> updates 12 M
>>>   kernel-headersx86_64 4.14.13-300.fc27
>>>   updates1.2 M
>>>
>>>
>>> Note these packages are from updates.  If the laptop
>>> system hasn't been updated one
>>> can use
>>>
>>> dnf --disablerepo updates --downloadonly
>>> --downloaddir=/tmp install broadcom-wl
>>>
>>> to get
>>>
>>>   kernel-devel  x86_64 4.13.9-300.fc27  fedora
>>>  11 M
>>>   kernel-headersx86_64 4.13.9-300.fc27  fedora
>>> 1.2 M
>>>
>>> All done and installed and all is well on my friend's f27 laptop.
>>> The snag I ran into had to do with the fact that the un-networked
>>> laptop, while trying to install the broadcom rpm and the
>>> dependencies,
>>> kept throwing me a curve: dnf kep saying it was unable to sync
>>> with the
>>> repositories: updates, fedora, rpmfusion
>>>
>>> How could it, since I was trying to install the very things
>>> that WOULD
>>> enable it to sync.
>>> So, before I gave up, I added the command argument:
>>> --disablerepo=*
>>> and lo and behold all the rpms in question got installed, and
>>> I rebooted,
>>> and the network was on. Ran updates. All is well.
>>>
>>> Thanx a lot!!
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>>> JD
>>>
>>> I don't believe that the workstation ISO will have what you need,
>>> as it is a netinstall image.
>>> You will probably want the server image,  I'm downloading that to
>>> check it now.
>>>
>>>
>>> JD
>>>
>>> The server iso has what you need,
>>>
>>> Yes you are right, but it is too late now :)
>>
>> I should have looked there myself :)
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> Sorry for the delay JD got busy at the office  -Terry
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how to convert a ma4 file to other format??

2018-01-26 Thread Antonio M
I installed sounconverter with a bunch of plugins, lame, ffmpeg, faac --- I
can convert for example a flac to mp3 but not  a m4a file to a mp3 file??
what is missing??

Tnx
Antonio Montagnani

Linux Fedora 27(Workstation)
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Re: What are some ways to debug a "No Bootable Device" message.

2018-01-26 Thread Neal Becker
Michael Singh wrote:

> What are some tips for debugging a machine Fedora 27 was just installed on
> but after a reboot you're greeted by the message "No Bootable Device"
> 
You mean ways that *don't* involve the use of firearms?
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Re: how to convert a ma4 file to other format??

2018-01-26 Thread Fred Smith
On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 06:20:15PM +0100, Antonio M wrote:
>I installed sounconverter with a bunch of plugins, lame, ffmpeg, faac
>--- I can convert for example a flac to mp3 but not  a m4a file to a
>mp3 file?? what is missing??

One can use vlc to convert between various formats. just for fun i
converted a m4a to a mp4. Not sure if it'll go to mp3 or not.

also, the man page for ffmpeg documents some commandline examples that
will convert various formats to m4a. does this mean it 'll also]
convert FROM m4a? I don't know. but you may want to try it, it is 
an amazingly versatile tool!

fred

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Re: how to convert a ma4 file to other format??

2018-01-26 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 26 Jan 2018 18:20:15 +0100, Antonio M wrote:

> I installed sounconverter with a bunch of plugins, lame, ffmpeg, faac --- I
> can convert for example a flac to mp3 but not  a m4a file to a mp3 file??
> what is missing??

Several things possibly.

* Soundconverter features automatic detection of needed GStreamer
plugins and automatic installation of the needed packages. In case
you've not seen a graphical dialog about that, it may be broken,
and manually installing missing gstreamer-plugins* packages from
3rd party repositories may be needed. Explicitly note that the new
gstreamer1-* packages are not compatible.

* What happens if you try to decode an .m4a file to .wav? If that
fails already, you are missing a plugin package.

* Perhaps install a different conversion tool, such as
"audio-convert-mod". It is not based on GStreamer, but is a
graphical frontend that uses command-line tools as backend.
It tells which converters are available, so you get a good overview.
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Gnome crashes when connect usb stick after fedora 27 update

2018-01-26 Thread Sergio Hernandez A.
Hi;

I have Fedora 27 installed in a Lenovo ThinkPad P51, working pretty
good since november, but today, after the last update, Gnome crashes
when I connect any device in any usb port, usb stick, external drive or
mobile phone.

The last messages in dmesg when I disconnect the usb are like the
following:

[  281.527389] cdc_acm 1-1:1.2: urb 4 failed submission with -19
[  281.528593] xhci_hcd :00:14.0: WARN Cannot submit Set TR Deq Ptr
[  281.528607] xhci_hcd :00:14.0: A Set TR Deq Ptr command is
pending.
[  281.528610] cdc_acm 1-1:1.2: urb 13 failed submission with -19
[  281.529927] xhci_hcd :00:14.0: WARN Set TR Deq Ptr cmd failed
due to incorrect slot or ep state.

In don't know where can I search to solve the problem.

Any help would be appreciated.

Cheers!
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Re: rfc2307 with winbind?

2018-01-26 Thread Jeff Sadowski
On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 11:33 PM, Jeff Sadowski  wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 11:31 PM, Jeff Sadowski  
> wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 7:03 PM, Jeff Sadowski  
>> wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 4:36 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
>>>  wrote:
 On Wed, 2018-01-24 at 16:25 -0700, Jeff Sadowski wrote:
> My AD has the rfc2307 flags to provide home directories and shells.
> The ubuntu 16.04 and centos 6.9 correctly get the AD flags for the
> home directory and shells.

 [Please don't top-post, it makes threads hard to follow]

 I'm no Samba expert but I recently had an issue which required some
 SElinux configuration to fix. If you have SElinux enabled, take a look
 at https://linux.die.net/man/8/samba_selinux

>>> SeLinux is disabled for now. If I get it working I'll try to reenable it.
>>>
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>> It is as if windbind was build without support for rfc2307 or winbind
>> is using some other file other than /etc/samba/smb.conf.
>>
>> I am suspecting the later because of some issues when I run authconfig
>> with different templates then replace smb.conf
>> the templates I had set with authconfig show up with
>> [root@fedora27 ~]# getent passwd jefftest
>> even though smb.conf doesn't have those templates.
>
> I am replacing smb.conf with the one I list above.

Another thing I notice is that
[root@fedora27 ~]# getent passwd jefftest
returns the same info with winbind stopped.
which is odd.
Where is getent getting the user from?

I edited /etc/nsswitch.conf to look as follows

passwd:files winbind
shadow:files
group: files winbind
hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] nis dns myhostname
bootparams: nisplus [NOTFOUND=return] files
ethers: files
netmasks:   files
networks:   files
protocols:  files
rpc:files
services:  files
netgroup:  files
publickey:  nisplus
automount: files
aliases:files nisplus
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Re: how to convert a ma4 file to other format??

2018-01-26 Thread Antonio M
thiese are the installed plugins for gstreamer



gstreamer-plugins-base.x86_64 0.10.36-18.fc27
@fedora
gstreamer-plugins-good.x86_64 0.10.31-20.fc27
@fedora
gstreamer-plugins-ugly.x86_64 0.10.19-23.fc27
@rpmfusion-free
gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free.i686  1.12.4-1.fc27
@updates
gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free.x86_641.12.4-1.fc27
@updates
gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free-gtk.x86_641.12.4-1.fc27
@updates
gstreamer1-plugins-base.i686  1.12.4-1.fc27
@updates
gstreamer1-plugins-base.x86_641.12.4-1.fc27
@updates
gstreamer1-plugins-good.x86_641.12.4-1.fc27
@updates
gstreamer1-plugins-ugly.x86_641.12.4-1.fc27
@rpmfusion-free-updates
gstreamer1-plugins-ugly-free.x86_64   1.12.4-1.fc27   @updates

Of course Vlc works (even I cant' convert all files together). Tnx for the
help to all of you

Antonio Montagnani

Linux Fedora 27(Workstation)
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2018-01-26 19:56 GMT+01:00 Michael Schwendt :

> On Fri, 26 Jan 2018 18:20:15 +0100, Antonio M wrote:
>
> > I installed sounconverter with a bunch of plugins, lame, ffmpeg, faac
> --- I
> > can convert for example a flac to mp3 but not  a m4a file to a mp3 file??
> > what is missing??
>
> Several things possibly.
>
> * Soundconverter features automatic detection of needed GStreamer
> plugins and automatic installation of the needed packages. In case
> you've not seen a graphical dialog about that, it may be broken,
> and manually installing missing gstreamer-plugins* packages from
> 3rd party repositories may be needed. Explicitly note that the new
> gstreamer1-* packages are not compatible.
>
> * What happens if you try to decode an .m4a file to .wav? If that
> fails already, you are missing a plugin package.
>
> * Perhaps install a different conversion tool, such as
> "audio-convert-mod". It is not based on GStreamer, but is a
> graphical frontend that uses command-line tools as backend.
> It tells which converters are available, so you get a good overview.
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Re: how to convert a ma4 file to other format??

2018-01-26 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Fri, 26 Jan 2018 13:50:41 -0500
Fred Smith  wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 06:20:15PM +0100, Antonio M wrote:
> >I installed sounconverter with a bunch of plugins, lame, ffmpeg, faac
> >--- I can convert for example a flac to mp3 but not  a m4a file to a
> >mp3 file?? what is missing??  
> 
> One can use vlc to convert between various formats. just for fun i
> converted a m4a to a mp4. Not sure if it'll go to mp3 or not.

I certainly would try ffmpeg, the Swiss Army knife for
audio/video ... :)

ffmpeg -i input.m4a output.mp3
and see what happens ...

or:
ffmpeg -i input.m4a -codec:a libmp3lame -qscale:a 0 output.mp3

https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/Encode/MP3


HTH
Wolfgang
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Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

2018-01-26 Thread InvalidPath
On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 8:24 AM, InvalidPath  wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 12:24 AM, Ed Greshko 
> wrote:
>
>> On 01/26/18 15:01, Joe Zeff wrote:
>> > On 01/25/2018 07:54 PM, InvalidPath wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Ok so tonight I tried enabling, and I had to manually rm or mv the
>> existing
>> >> display-manager.service file because enabling another DE would not
>> overwrite it. I
>> >> tried both SDDM and LightDM... neither of which would boot correctly,
>> all  got was
>> >> a black screen with no mouse. Alt+F# would not work either. So I'm
>> thinking she
>> >> locked up tight as a drum.
>> >
>> > First you disable the old DM, then enable the new one.
>>
>> systemctl -f enable sddm
>>
>> does what is needed.  The "key" is the -f which means "force"
>>
>>-f, --force
>>When used with enable, overwrite any existing conflicting
>> symlinks.
>>
>>
>> FWIW, I had already given this command to the OP in a different thread.
>>
>>
>> --
>> A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out
>>
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> @Ed I know /etc/systemd/system/display-manager.service is a symlink, I
> use zsh so I saw the light blue flashing text in my terminal ;)
>
> And neither works meaning, I tried replacing this symlink with one
> pointing to /usr/lib/systemd/system/sddm.service
>  because the command you gave me would not overwrite the symlink.. and I
> even ran it as root but it still refused. No clue why really but honestly I
> didnt care enough to find out. So I manually created a new symlink to teh
> sddm file.  Then later on I created one (overwriting the default) to the
> LightDM service file.  All to no avail.
>
> And by boot correctly in last nights escapades I mean that this time... I
> did not even get a mouse cursor... just black.
> And I did remove the Gnome bits but this time I did it individually after
> 'sudo --exclude='qemu* libvirt*' remove gnome-' which after
> many of these the GDM was removed, I ended up reinstalling GDM* which in
> turn reinstalled every BLASTED thing that I had just removed beforehand.
> So frustrating.
>
> I did check the contents of /var/lib/sddm/state.conf and it references
> gnome-desktop of all things!  Why is it so bloody hard to change the
> Display Managers up in here??
>
> @Joe So are you meaning that I should mask or delete the symlink to my
> current DM, maybe reboot then create one for teh other.. like SDDM or
> LightDM?
>


So tonight, I guess I should try again.. maybe remove and reinstall sddm
and I'd firstly think that installing a few other DM's would be a good idea
but then I'm left with so many other dependencies that I'd be in the same
boat as now. So am I correct in thinking that reinstalling sddm, I will
retry the enable command and see if the results are different this time..
and if greeted with a black screen then journalctl should be my friend.. Oh
and also check that state.conf file to make sure it's not still pointing to
GDM... Is this a solid plan?
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Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

2018-01-26 Thread InvalidPath
On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 1:41 PM, InvalidPath  wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 8:24 AM, InvalidPath 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 12:24 AM, Ed Greshko 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 01/26/18 15:01, Joe Zeff wrote:
>>> > On 01/25/2018 07:54 PM, InvalidPath wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Ok so tonight I tried enabling, and I had to manually rm or mv the
>>> existing
>>> >> display-manager.service file because enabling another DE would not
>>> overwrite it. I
>>> >> tried both SDDM and LightDM... neither of which would boot correctly,
>>> all  got was
>>> >> a black screen with no mouse. Alt+F# would not work either. So I'm
>>> thinking she
>>> >> locked up tight as a drum.
>>> >
>>> > First you disable the old DM, then enable the new one.
>>>
>>> systemctl -f enable sddm
>>>
>>> does what is needed.  The "key" is the -f which means "force"
>>>
>>>-f, --force
>>>When used with enable, overwrite any existing conflicting
>>> symlinks.
>>>
>>>
>>> FWIW, I had already given this command to the OP in a different thread.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out
>>>
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>>>
>> @Ed I know /etc/systemd/system/display-manager.service is a symlink, I
>> use zsh so I saw the light blue flashing text in my terminal ;)
>>
>> And neither works meaning, I tried replacing this symlink with one
>> pointing to /usr/lib/systemd/system/sddm.service
>>  because the command you gave me would not overwrite the symlink.. and I
>> even ran it as root but it still refused. No clue why really but honestly I
>> didnt care enough to find out. So I manually created a new symlink to teh
>> sddm file.  Then later on I created one (overwriting the default) to the
>> LightDM service file.  All to no avail.
>>
>> And by boot correctly in last nights escapades I mean that this time... I
>> did not even get a mouse cursor... just black.
>> And I did remove the Gnome bits but this time I did it individually after
>> 'sudo --exclude='qemu* libvirt*' remove gnome-' which after
>> many of these the GDM was removed, I ended up reinstalling GDM* which in
>> turn reinstalled every BLASTED thing that I had just removed beforehand.
>> So frustrating.
>>
>> I did check the contents of /var/lib/sddm/state.conf and it references
>> gnome-desktop of all things!  Why is it so bloody hard to change the
>> Display Managers up in here??
>>
>> @Joe So are you meaning that I should mask or delete the symlink to my
>> current DM, maybe reboot then create one for teh other.. like SDDM or
>> LightDM?
>>
>
>
> So tonight, I guess I should try again.. maybe remove and reinstall sddm
> and I'd firstly think that installing a few other DM's would be a good idea
> but then I'm left with so many other dependencies that I'd be in the same
> boat as now. So am I correct in thinking that reinstalling sddm, I will
> retry the enable command and see if the results are different this time..
> and if greeted with a black screen then journalctl should be my friend.. Oh
> and also check that state.conf file to make sure it's not still pointing to
> GDM... Is this a solid plan?
>


Update: I just discovered this:

Enable the systemd service for your new display manager using systemctl
enable displaymanager.service -f

If this doesn’t work, Manjaro users can try disabling the previous display
manager first:

sudo systemctl stop gdm
sudo systemctl disable gdm
sudo systemctl enable lightdm.service
sudo systemctl start lightdm

while on Arch Linux you might have to remove the
/etc/systemd/system/default.target file, and create a
display-manager.service file in the /etc/systemd/system directory. This new
file should be a symlink to your new display manager’s service file in
/usr/lib/systemd/system/.

The advice in this section applies to new versions of Fedora as well (from
Fedora 14 onwards). You can also change your display manager on Fedora with
a practical tool called system-switch-displaymanager
.

So I reinstalled sddm, and that system-switch-displaymanager.. seems to
have done the same things that you guys have mentioned just I guess in a
different method.  It returned:

 14:24:23  bhart@Vostok  /etc/systemd/system  11s 
$ system-switch-displaymanager sddm
Created symlink /etc/systemd/system/display-manager.service →
/usr/lib/systemd/system/sddm.service.
Your default graphical display manager has successfully been switched.

So I'll find out if my DM was actually switched here in a couple hours.
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Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

2018-01-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/27/18 04:41, InvalidPath wrote:
> So tonight, I guess I should try again.. maybe remove and reinstall sddm and 
> I'd
> firstly think that installing a few other DM's would be a good idea but then 
> I'm
> left with so many other dependencies that I'd be in the same boat as now. So 
> am I
> correct in thinking that reinstalling sddm, I will retry the enable command 
> and see
> if the results are different this time.. and if greeted with a black screen 
> then
> journalctl should be my friend.. Oh and also check that state.conf file to 
> make
> sure it's not still pointing to GDM... Is this a solid plan?


I apologize, sort of, for the diatribe which follows.  Please understand that 
it is a
general rant while, unfortunately, using examples from this thread.

A solid plan would be to answer *specific* questions with *specific* answers to 
those
trying to assist.

I speak only for myself.  When I ask a question I ask it with a foundation.  I 
may,
or may not, go into detail as to the foundation behind my question.  The reason 
for
that is the foundation may be complex and time consuming to write out.  And, I 
have
found that many people aren't interested in the ramblings of my thought process 
they
are only interested in results.

With that in mind, here is an example.

I asked the simple, yes or no question.  "Are you getting a login display?"  I 
did
layout a brief foundation behind my question.  Maybe I should have added that in
looking at the logs I also saw...

Jan 25 19:50:19 Vostok audit[1937]: USER_START pid=1937 uid=0 auid=1000 ses=2
subj=system_u:system_r:xdm_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 msg='op=PAM:session_open
grantors=pam_selinux,pam_loginuid,pam_selinux,pam_keyinit,pam_namespace,pam_keyinit,pam_limits,pam_systemd,pam_unix,pam_gnome_keyring,pam_kwallet5,pam_kwallet,pam_lastlog
acct="bhart" exe="/usr/libexec/sddm-helper" hostname=? addr=? terminal=:0 
res=sucess`

And auid=1000 is "actual user ID" which is the numeric ID of the user contained 
in
the /etc/passwd file.

So, one of two things can be happening.  Either one is getting a login screen 
and
typing in a password *or* at some point the system has been configured for 
"auto-login"

The answer to the question "Are you getting a login display?" resolves that.  
And
that question remains unanswered.

I also asked the question (paraphrased here) "Do you have a 
/var/lib/sddm/state.conf
file.  If so, what are the contents."  A specific question which would have a
specific answer along the lines of

[root@acer ~]# cat /var/lib/sddm/state.conf
[Last]
# Name of the last logged-in user.
# This user will be preselected when the login screen appears
User=egreshko


# Name of the session for the last logged-in user.
# This session will be preselected when the login screen appears.
Session=/usr/share/xsessions/plasma.desktop

I can only guess what is in it since you used words to indicate there may be 
Gnome
stuff in it.  Then my advice would probably have been to either delete the file 
or
change the "Session" contents.  I *also* would have gone on to explain that 
erasing
and re-installing the sddm package would probably *not* remove that file.  That 
file
is *not* supplied by the package but created by running sddm and those types of
"info" files are generally not removed.  So, an erase/install would be 
ineffective.

You have added a message to this thread talking about 
"system-switch-displaymanager
".  That
command is nothing more than a shell script.  And, an unnecessary one at that.  
The
bottom line is that it performs two commands.

rm -f /etc/systemd/system/display-manager.service
systemctl enable $DM.service

This is, in effect, the same as "systemctl -f enable sddm".    If that command
"fails" to do what it is intended to do and doesn't provide an error message 
would be
a source of concern to me.


Sorry for the rambling nature of the above.  Full disclosure, I was out late 
last
night  eating and drinking.  With the emphasis on drinking.  I woke up early as 
I
needed to.  So, I am not hung-over since I still have plenty of alcohol in my
bloodstream. 


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Re: how to convert a ma4 file to other format??

2018-01-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/27/18 04:30, Antonio M wrote:
> thiese are the installed plugins for gstreamer
>
>
>
> gstreamer-plugins-base.x86_64 0.10.36-18.fc27 @fedora 
>  
> gstreamer-plugins-good.x86_64 0.10.31-20.fc27 @fedora 
>  
> gstreamer-plugins-ugly.x86_64 0.10.19-23.fc27 @rpmfusion-free 
>  
> gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free.i686  1.12.4-1.fc27   @updates
>  
> gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free.x86_64    1.12.4-1.fc27   @updates
>  
> gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free-gtk.x86_64    1.12.4-1.fc27   @updates
>  
> gstreamer1-plugins-base.i686  1.12.4-1.fc27   @updates
>  
> gstreamer1-plugins-base.x86_64    1.12.4-1.fc27   @updates
>  
> gstreamer1-plugins-good.x86_64    1.12.4-1.fc27   @updates
>  
> gstreamer1-plugins-ugly.x86_64    1.12.4-1.fc27   
> @rpmfusion-free-updates
> gstreamer1-plugins-ugly-free.x86_64   1.12.4-1.fc27   @updates
>
> Of course Vlc works (even I cant' convert all files together). Tnx for the 
> help to
> all of you
>

ffmpeg uses libmp3lame to convert from ma4 to mp3.  So, install lame-libs.  And 
you'd
get something like...

[egreshko@meimei ~]$ ffmpeg -i sound.m4a sound.mp3
ffmpeg version 3.3.6 Copyright (c) 2000-2017 the FFmpeg developers
  built with gcc 7 (GCC)
  configuration: --prefix=/usr --bindir=/usr/bin --datadir=/usr/share/ffmpeg
--docdir=/usr/share/doc/ffmpeg --incdir=/usr/include/ffmpeg --libdir=/usr/lib64
--mandir=/usr/share/man --arch=x86_64 --optflags='-O2 -g -pipe -Wall
-Werror=format-security -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions 
-fstack-protector-strong
--param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -grecord-gcc-switches
-specs=/usr/lib/rpm/redhat/redhat-hardened-cc1 -m64 -mtune=generic'
--extra-ldflags='-Wl,-z,relro -specs=/usr/lib/rpm/redhat/redhat-hardened-ld '
--extra-cflags='-I/usr/include/nvenc ' --enable-libopencore-amrnb
--enable-libopencore-amrwb --enable-libvo-amrwbenc --enable-version3 
--enable-bzlib
--disable-crystalhd --enable-fontconfig --enable-frei0r --enable-gcrypt
--enable-gnutls --enable-ladspa --enable-libass --enable-libbluray 
--enable-libcdio
--enable-indev=jack --enable-libfreetype --enable-libfribidi --enable-libgsm
--enable-libmp3lame --enable-nvenc --enable-openal --enable-opencl 
--enable-opengl
--enable-libopenjpeg --enable-libopus --enable-libpulse --enable-libschroedinger
--enable-libsoxr --enable-libspeex --enable-libtheora --enable-libvorbis
--enable-libv4l2 --enable-libvidstab --enable-libvpx --enable-libx264
--enable-libx265 --enable-libxvid --enable-avfilter --enable-avresample
--enable-postproc --enable-pthreads --disable-static --enable-shared 
--enable-gpl
--disable-debug --disable-stripping --shlibdir=/usr/lib64 --enable-libmfx
--enable-runtime-cpudetect
  libavutil  55. 58.100 / 55. 58.100
  libavcodec 57. 89.100 / 57. 89.100
  libavformat    57. 71.100 / 57. 71.100
  libavdevice    57.  6.100 / 57.  6.100
  libavfilter 6. 82.100 /  6. 82.100
  libavresample   3.  5.  0 /  3.  5.  0
  libswscale  4.  6.100 /  4.  6.100
  libswresample   2.  7.100 /  2.  7.100
  libpostproc    54.  5.100 / 54.  5.100
Input #0, mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2, from 'sound.m4a':
  Metadata:
    major_brand : 3gp4
    minor_version   : 0
    compatible_brands: isom3gp4
    creation_time   : 2018-01-23T02:24:12.00Z
    com.android.version: 7.0
  Duration: 00:00:11.33, start: 0.00, bitrate: 152 kb/s
    Stream #0:0(eng): Audio: aac (LC) (mp4a / 0x6134706D), 44100 Hz, mono, 
fltp, 128
kb/s (default)
    Metadata:
  creation_time   : 2018-01-23T02:24:12.00Z
  handler_name    : SoundHandle
Stream mapping:
  Stream #0:0 -> #0:0 (aac (native) -> mp3 (libmp3lame))
Press [q] to stop, [?] for help
Output #0, mp3, to 'sound.mp3':
  Metadata:
    major_brand : 3gp4
    minor_version   : 0
    compatible_brands: isom3gp4
    com.android.version: 7.0
    TSSE    : Lavf57.71.100
    Stream #0:0(eng): Audio: mp3 (libmp3lame), 44100 Hz, mono, fltp (default)
    Metadata:
  creation_time   : 2018-01-23T02:24:12.00Z
  handler_name    : SoundHandle
  encoder : Lavc57.89.100 libmp3lame
size=  89kB time=00:00:11.33 bitrate=  64.4kbits/s speed=  59x   
video:0kB audio:89kB subtitle:0kB other streams:0kB global headers:0kB muxing
overhead: 0.390513%

[egreshko@meimei ~]$ file sound.m*
sound.m4a: ISO Media, MPEG v4 system, 3GPP
sound.mp3: Audio file with ID3 version 2.4.0, contains:MPEG ADTS, layer III, 
v1,  56
kbps, 44.1 kHz, Monaural


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Re: f26 mariadb.service failed after multi-package update

2018-01-26 Thread Stephen Morris

On 26/1/18 7:58 pm, Sjoerd Mullender wrote:

On 26/01/18 00:59, Stephen Morris wrote:

On 26/1/18 10:49 am, Stephen Morris wrote:

On 25/1/18 4:33 am, John Pilkington wrote:

On 24/01/18 17:09, John Pilkington wrote:

sysstemctl | grep maria gives

● mariadb.service    loaded failed
failed    MariaDB 10.1 database server

There was a 'normal shutdown' of version 10.1.29

version 10.1.30 reports:

2018-01-24 13:55:42 140690185448192 [ERROR] mysqld: Can't
create/write to file '/run/mariadb/mariadb.pid' (Errcode: 2 "No such
file or directory")
2018-01-24 13:55:42 140690185448192 [ERROR] Can't start server:
can't create PID file: No such file or directory

I reinstalled and it failed again.

John P

yumex-dnf offered 10.1.21-5 as a downgrade, and that is running.

Just some info on this, I'm on F27 using mariadb (64 bit) 10.2.9-3 and
it does not appear to be exhibiting this issue in that systemctl
status mariadb shows that the service has started at boot time.

Just further to this, on my system, which may be a hangover from having
installed the community-mysql packages first and using that environment
before uninstalling these and installing the mariadb equivalents, the
mariadb.pid file is placed in /run/mysqld which is owned by User/Group
mysql. The time stamp on this file indicates that it was successfully
created with this mornings boot.

See the bug report: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1538066

Quick fix until mariadb update arrives: add the following line to the
file /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/mariadb.conf:

d /run/mariadb 0755 mysql mysql -


My mariadb.conf, as installed from the Fedora repositories, has the 
following line already in there, but in there twice:



d /run/mysql 0755 mysql mysql


regards,

Steve




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Steve



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Re: Watchdog timer and slow shutdown

2018-01-26 Thread Stephen Morris

On 25/1/18 9:26 am, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Wed, 2018-01-24 at 14:01 -0700, stan wrote:

On Wed, 24 Jan 2018 12:03:54 +
Patrick O'Callaghan  wrote:


On rebooting today my system took an age to shutdown, for no apparent
reason but possibly related to NFS mounts.

I run a daemon to feed entropy into the kernel pool.  It sleeps most of
the time, waking up only when the pool drops below a threshold.  If I
shutdown while it is sleeping, it takes a minute and a half before
systemd sends it a kill -9, unless it wakes up in the interval.  If I
kill the process before shutdown, there is no wait.  Perhaps
something like this is happening to you (the NFS mounts?).

This would imply that the daemon isn't responding to a TERM signal,
hence the timeout. I thought NFS did obey TERM, but a glance at the man
pages doesn't show any reference to signals, so the answer must remain
a mystery.


I get the same issue on my system but for me it is completely random as 
to when it happens and when it doesn't. The last time it happened , it 
paused for a minute or so after the normal watchdog not stopping 
message, and just before it eventually decided to shutdown another 
message was displayed that looked like it might have been relative to 
mounts, but it disappeared too quickly to be sure.



regards,

Steve




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Re: sound configuration

2018-01-26 Thread Stephen Morris

On 25/1/18 7:41 am, stan wrote:

On Wed, 24 Jan 2018 07:20:21 +0100
François Patte  wrote:
  

No change!

What can I test?

http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh

Go to the above site and download the alsa-info.sh script.  Run it
twice.  Once immediately after start-up before you have changed
anything.  Then again after you make the changes that allow you to have
sound.

Then do a diff on the two files.  What has changed?

You could also post the files to an fpaste somewhere, and provide a link
to them here.  I think they are a little too large to be attachments.

If there are no changes in the two files, it narrows the issue to
pulseaudio.


Just a thought on this, and I would have no idea how to determine this 
or how to rectify it, is it possible that the hardware in question or 
its drivers are not being made available before alsa or pulseaudio start 
so they use a different sound device until manually switched?



regards,

Steve


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mate dt on fc27 workstation

2018-01-26 Thread JD

I am unable to increase the number of workspaces.
When I right-click on the only visible workspace icon on the panel,
and I click on Preferences, I do not get a gui that lets me increase
the number of workspaces. I only get a small panel which lets the user
choose how many columns to display the workspaces in.

Will I be able to install an older release like from fc26 or fc25
to see how they will behave?

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Re: mate dt on fc27 workstation

2018-01-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/27/18 09:05, JD wrote:
> I am unable to increase the number of workspaces.
> When I right-click on the only visible workspace icon on the panel,
> and I click on Preferences, I do not get a gui that lets me increase
> the number of workspaces. I only get a small panel which lets the user
> choose how many columns to display the workspaces in.
>
> Will I be able to install an older release like from fc26 or fc25
> to see how they will behave? 


I just install the MATE Desktop on an F27 system running the "Workstation" 
(Gnome)
edition.  After bringing up the Mate DE it has 4 workspaces.  Right clicking on 
the
workspaces on the lower panel brings up a GUI to add spaces as well as changing 
the name.

See the image   
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1PD1JyviXzqKi4_v2bVhgVemFGble-1xh

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Re: Removing @gnome-desktop but leave the deps?

2018-01-26 Thread InvalidPath
On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 4:36 PM, Ed Greshko  wrote:

> On 01/27/18 04:41, InvalidPath wrote:
> > So tonight, I guess I should try again.. maybe remove and reinstall sddm
> and I'd
> > firstly think that installing a few other DM's would be a good idea but
> then I'm
> > left with so many other dependencies that I'd be in the same boat as
> now. So am I
> > correct in thinking that reinstalling sddm, I will retry the enable
> command and see
> > if the results are different this time.. and if greeted with a black
> screen then
> > journalctl should be my friend.. Oh and also check that state.conf file
> to make
> > sure it's not still pointing to GDM... Is this a solid plan?
>
>
> I apologize, sort of, for the diatribe which follows.  Please understand
> that it is a
> general rant while, unfortunately, using examples from this thread.
>
> A solid plan would be to answer *specific* questions with *specific*
> answers to those
> trying to assist.
>
> I speak only for myself.  When I ask a question I ask it with a
> foundation.  I may,
> or may not, go into detail as to the foundation behind my question.  The
> reason for
> that is the foundation may be complex and time consuming to write out.
> And, I have
> found that many people aren't interested in the ramblings of my thought
> process they
> are only interested in results.
>
> With that in mind, here is an example.
>
> I asked the simple, yes or no question.  "Are you getting a login
> display?"  I did
> layout a brief foundation behind my question.  Maybe I should have added
> that in
> looking at the logs I also saw...
>
> Jan 25 19:50:19 Vostok audit[1937]: USER_START pid=1937 uid=0 auid=1000
> ses=2
> subj=system_u:system_r:xdm_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 msg='op=PAM:session_open
> grantors=pam_selinux,pam_loginuid,pam_selinux,pam_
> keyinit,pam_namespace,pam_keyinit,pam_limits,pam_
> systemd,pam_unix,pam_gnome_keyring,pam_kwallet5,pam_kwallet,pam_lastlog
> acct="bhart" exe="/usr/libexec/sddm-helper" hostname=? addr=? terminal=:0
> res=sucess`
>
> And auid=1000 is "actual user ID" which is the numeric ID of the user
> contained in
> the /etc/passwd file.
>
> So, one of two things can be happening.  Either one is getting a login
> screen and
> typing in a password *or* at some point the system has been configured for
> "auto-login"
>
> The answer to the question "Are you getting a login display?" resolves
> that.  And
> that question remains unanswered.
>
> I also asked the question (paraphrased here) "Do you have a
> /var/lib/sddm/state.conf
> file.  If so, what are the contents."  A specific question which would
> have a
> specific answer along the lines of
>
> [root@acer ~]# cat /var/lib/sddm/state.conf
> [Last]
> # Name of the last logged-in user.
> # This user will be preselected when the login screen appears
> User=egreshko
>
>
> # Name of the session for the last logged-in user.
> # This session will be preselected when the login screen appears.
> Session=/usr/share/xsessions/plasma.desktop
>
> I can only guess what is in it since you used words to indicate there may
> be Gnome
> stuff in it.  Then my advice would probably have been to either delete the
> file or
> change the "Session" contents.  I *also* would have gone on to explain
> that erasing
> and re-installing the sddm package would probably *not* remove that file.
> That file
> is *not* supplied by the package but created by running sddm and those
> types of
> "info" files are generally not removed.  So, an erase/install would be
> ineffective.
>
> You have added a message to this thread talking about
> "system-switch-displaymanager
> ".
> That
> command is nothing more than a shell script.  And, an unnecessary one at
> that.  The
> bottom line is that it performs two commands.
>
> rm -f /etc/systemd/system/display-manager.service
> systemctl enable $DM.service
>
> This is, in effect, the same as "systemctl -f enable sddm".If that
> command
> "fails" to do what it is intended to do and doesn't provide an error
> message would be
> a source of concern to me.
>
>
> Sorry for the rambling nature of the above.  Full disclosure, I was out
> late last
> night  eating and drinking.  With the emphasis on drinking.  I woke up
> early as I
> needed to.  So, I am not hung-over since I still have plenty of alcohol in
> my
> bloodstream.
>
>
> --
> A motto of mine is: When in doubt, try it out
>
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>
Lol Ed.. Don't worry about it, I have my big boy pants on.  I do tend to
jump around easily, pose questions, try things.. I'm not a person who sends
a question upstream then just waits for replies before I try stuff, never
have been and never will be.  Although in saying that I do take suggestions
strongly and try to be as verbose as I can, admittedly though somet

Re: mate dt on fc27 workstation

2018-01-26 Thread fedora

Ciao every

gsettings list-recursively|less

will show you which attribute contains the number of workspaces.

And the following (or similar) will set it to 4.

gsettings set org.mate.Marco.general num-workspaces 4

good luck

suomi

On 01/27/2018 03:49 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 01/27/18 09:05, JD wrote:

I am unable to increase the number of workspaces.
When I right-click on the only visible workspace icon on the panel,
and I click on Preferences, I do not get a gui that lets me increase
the number of workspaces. I only get a small panel which lets the user
choose how many columns to display the workspaces in.

Will I be able to install an older release like from fc26 or fc25
to see how they will behave?



I just install the MATE Desktop on an F27 system running the "Workstation" 
(Gnome)
edition.  After bringing up the Mate DE it has 4 workspaces.  Right clicking on 
the
workspaces on the lower panel brings up a GUI to add spaces as well as changing 
the name.

See the image   
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1PD1JyviXzqKi4_v2bVhgVemFGble-1xh



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