Re: how to (re-?)construct grub menu?

2018-02-09 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 02/09/2018 09:40 AM, Rick Stevens wrote:

IIRC, /boot/efi/* is created by the initial anaconda install sequence
and is in place in case you use UEFI at some point in the future. Since
it's only about 15MB in size, it's pretty innocuous and I wouldn't
worry about it. Ubuntu's install mechanism isn't the same and it
probably doesn't create that directory unless it notices you are in UEFI
boot mode at the time of install.


What's in yours?  Are any of the files owned?  Mine is just an empty 
directory tree to /boot/efi/EFI/fedora/.  I just checked further and 
that directory is owned by grub-common, but not the parent directories.

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Re: rsync -- permission denied issues

2018-02-09 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 02/09/2018 02:49 PM, bruce wrote:

Doing a test to "clone"/cpy a test vm from a base server to a target server

the user on the base/target server is a basic user.. not in the sudoers file


How do you expect this to work?  All the files will be owned by non-root 
and the system won't work.



from the base server.. the rsync cmd is similar to
   rsync --excludefile='foo.dat' / test_user@1.2.3.4:/

I'm getting a bunch of permission denied/operation denied errs...


Without the actual error messages, it's hard to say what the specific 
problem is as there are several problems with this.  There are many 
directories that are readable only by root, so those will give you 
errors on the base side.  Unless the target server is empty to start 
with (which it obviously isn't since you are running things on it), most 
directories are only writable by root so those will all give you errors 
as well.



I've turned selinux off on both the base/target server for this process..


Probably unnecessary.


I've thought of iterating through the process and adding to the
exclude file the dirs generating the permission errs..


That will be nearly everything.


Any thoughts on a soln to this?

Also, for legitimate files that are owned by other processes/users
that should be copied. Any thoughts on how to cpy them, without
generating the permission errs?


You can't.  Why don't you just use root to copy?
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Re: KDE doesn't start after upgrade to Fedora 27

2018-02-09 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/10/18 14:25, Dave Close wrote:
> Ed Greshko wrote:
>
 Is your system a desktop with a single monitor? A laptop with
 external monitor? Or something else?
>>> It's a desktop with a single monitor.
>>>
 If you do use either sddm or kdm do you get a login screen? Couldn't
 hurt to try that as Samuel has suggested.
>>> Using kdm, I get exactly the same result.
>> Sorry, would you clarify?
>>
>> You do get a login screen and then when you enter your PW you end
>> up with a black screen with a cursor you can move around?
> Yes. Exactly.


OK then at that point the X-server is functioning normally.  Would it be 
possible to
do the following?

1.  Reboot the system to get to the login screen.

2.  From a second system, ssh into the failing system, become root, and "tail -f
/var/log/Xorg.0.log" to see what was last entered.

3.  Login from the GUI on failing system and then check the tail to see if the
"AIGLX: Suspending AIGLX clients for VT switch" appears at that point.


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Re: KDE doesn't start after upgrade to Fedora 27

2018-02-09 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 02/09/2018 10:27 PM, Dave Close wrote:

Samuel Sieb wrote:


Well, I'm certainly seeking hints. The VNC session got me to a
blank screen image. I opened an xterm on it and ran startx.


You what?  You ran startx from within an X session?


Well, it's been a few days. I agree that doesn't make sense. I'll
try it again and post a clarification.


Also try running "systemctl isolate graphical".
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Re: KDE doesn't start after upgrade to Fedora 27

2018-02-09 Thread Dave Close
Samuel Sieb wrote:

>> Well, I'm certainly seeking hints. The VNC session got me to a
>> blank screen image. I opened an xterm on it and ran startx.
>
> You what?  You ran startx from within an X session?

Well, it's been a few days. I agree that doesn't make sense. I'll
try it again and post a clarification.
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Re: KDE doesn't start after upgrade to Fedora 27

2018-02-09 Thread Dave Close
Ed Greshko wrote:

>>> Is your system a desktop with a single monitor? A laptop with
>>> external monitor? Or something else?
>> It's a desktop with a single monitor.
>>
>>> If you do use either sddm or kdm do you get a login screen? Couldn't
>>> hurt to try that as Samuel has suggested.
>> Using kdm, I get exactly the same result.
>
>Sorry, would you clarify?
>
> You do get a login screen and then when you enter your PW you end
> up with a black screen with a cursor you can move around?

Yes. Exactly.
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Re: Importing FF bookmarks from another profile

2018-02-09 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/10/18 06:12, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> I'm confused about how you're trying to do the convert to html.  You should 
> open
> Firefox using the old profile.  Go to the bookmarks window and use the 
> "export to
> html" option.  Then in the new profile, you go to the bookmarks window and 
> use the
> "import from html" option.


Works fine for me.

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Re: KDE doesn't start after upgrade to Fedora 27

2018-02-09 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 02/09/2018 10:04 PM, Dave Close wrote:

Samuel Sieb wrote:


I'm not switching consoles. I haven't yet reached the opportunity
to do so when the system hangs and the black screen appears. After
that, yes, I can and do switch to a text console so I can kill the
hung KDE session.


You do switch consoles and you just again said you did.  You switched
consoles and then killed the session.  I get those same messages when
I switch to a text console and then back again.  Those messages are
normal and not a problem.


I ran the test this evening while I was remotely connected to the
machine from a different machine. When KDE stuck, I checked the
Xorg log from the other machine, without switching consoles on the
machine with the problem. The log ended like this:

[261624.860] (II) AIGLX: Suspending AIGLX clients for VT switch
[261624.925] (II) systemd-logind: got pause for 13:65
[261624.925] (II) systemd-logind: got pause for 13:69
[261624.925] (II) systemd-logind: got pause for 226:0
[261624.925] (II) systemd-logind: got pause for 13:64
[261624.925] (II) systemd-logind: got pause for 13:66
[261624.926] (II) systemd-logind: got pause for 13:68
[261624.926] (II) systemd-logind: got pause for 13:67

So, no, I hadn't tried to switch consoles when those messages
appeared.


That's strange because those lines are only caused by a VT switch as it 
says...



Have I mentioned that I installed TigerVNC on the system, then
connected from a different one? In that situation, KDE starts fine.
The problem is only on the main screen.


This starts the session differently.  How are you starting vnc and
KDE in this case.  That might give a hint to why the other method
isn't working.


Well, I'm certainly seeking hints. The VNC session got me to a blank
screen image. I opened an xterm on it and ran startx.


You what?  You ran startx from within an X session?
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Re: KDE doesn't start after upgrade to Fedora 27

2018-02-09 Thread Dave Close
Samuel Sieb wrote:

>> I'm not switching consoles. I haven't yet reached the opportunity
>> to do so when the system hangs and the black screen appears. After
>> that, yes, I can and do switch to a text console so I can kill the
>> hung KDE session.
>
> You do switch consoles and you just again said you did.  You switched
> consoles and then killed the session.  I get those same messages when
> I switch to a text console and then back again.  Those messages are
> normal and not a problem.

I ran the test this evening while I was remotely connected to the
machine from a different machine. When KDE stuck, I checked the
Xorg log from the other machine, without switching consoles on the
machine with the problem. The log ended like this:

[261624.860] (II) AIGLX: Suspending AIGLX clients for VT switch
[261624.925] (II) systemd-logind: got pause for 13:65
[261624.925] (II) systemd-logind: got pause for 13:69
[261624.925] (II) systemd-logind: got pause for 226:0
[261624.925] (II) systemd-logind: got pause for 13:64
[261624.925] (II) systemd-logind: got pause for 13:66
[261624.926] (II) systemd-logind: got pause for 13:68
[261624.926] (II) systemd-logind: got pause for 13:67

So, no, I hadn't tried to switch consoles when those messages
appeared.

>> Have I mentioned that I installed TigerVNC on the system, then
>> connected from a different one? In that situation, KDE starts fine.
>> The problem is only on the main screen.
>
> This starts the session differently.  How are you starting vnc and
> KDE in this case.  That might give a hint to why the other method
> isn't working.

Well, I'm certainly seeking hints. The VNC session got me to a blank
screen image. I opened an xterm on it and ran startx.
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Re: KDE doesn't start after upgrade to Fedora 27

2018-02-09 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/10/18 13:55, Dave Close wrote:
> Ed Greshko wrote:
>
>> Is your system a desktop with a single monitor? A laptop with
>> external monitor? Or something else?
> It's a desktop with a single monitor.
>
>> If you do use either sddm or kdm do you get a login screen? Couldn't
>> hurt to try that as Samuel has suggested.
> Using kdm, I get exactly the same result.


Sorry, would you clarify?

You do get a login screen and then when you enter your PW you end up with a 
black
screen with a cursor you can move around?

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Re: KDE doesn't start after upgrade to Fedora 27

2018-02-09 Thread Dave Close
Ed Greshko wrote:

> Is your system a desktop with a single monitor? A laptop with
> external monitor? Or something else?

It's a desktop with a single monitor.

> If you do use either sddm or kdm do you get a login screen? Couldn't
> hurt to try that as Samuel has suggested.

Using kdm, I get exactly the same result.
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Re: Importing FF bookmarks from another profile

2018-02-09 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 02/09/2018 05:59 PM, JD wrote:


On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 3:12 PM, Samuel Sieb > wrote:


On 02/09/2018 09:31 AM, JD wrote:

Yes Sam. I tried to restore, and I tried to convert to html.
In both cases, for all the files in bookmarksbackup dir, I
am getting Unable to process the backup file.


I'm confused about how you're trying to do the convert to html.  You
should open Firefox using the old profile.  Go to the bookmarks
window and use the "export to html" option.  Then in the new
profile, you go to the bookmarks window and use the "import from
html" option.



Sam - That's EXACTLY what I did!!!


Then I don't understand why you have anything to do with the backup 
directory.  You should only be dealing with the bookmarks that are in 
the browser profile.  Are the bookmarks gone?

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Shotwell and photo manager in general

2018-02-09 Thread Timothy Ward
Hi,

It is unfortunate that with the use of mobile phones being used more
amd more with their camera apps that Linux Photo managers have not been
fully udgraded to download the camera images from smart phones easy,
although some do the best thay can, their seems to be a work required
to make it a seamless experience when plugging a smart phone in a Linux
computer. Library's and applications are available and being upgraded
but still lack the programming and refinement and is probably related
to the spare time and help that the developers have to implement new
features for smart phones and attend to issues with the software as a
whole.
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Re: Epson XP-860: available printer driver won't print in duplex - SOLVED

2018-02-09 Thread Temlakos

On 02/09/2018 03:43 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 02/09/18 23:09, Temlakos wrote:

On 01/30/2018 06:20 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 01/30/18 19:13, Temlakos wrote:

On 01/29/2018 10:52 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 01/30/18 11:27, Temlakos wrote:

Recently I bought an Epson XP-860, to replace the XP-810 that finally quit on me
after many long years of service.

But when I went to install a printer driver, I found that duplex printing is
simply
not available.

It might or might not be significant that the recommended printer drivers are
Epson
XP-820 CUPS/Gutenprint drivers, regular and simplified.

I tried installing the Epson Printer Utility from the Epson site. But that 
doesn't
seem to do anything to make full duplex available.

You installed epson-inkjet-printer-escpr?


No, that I did not. Should I? What configuration options should I specify?



Yes, I believe you should.  And when you configure the driver you should 
specify  the
ppd file Epson-XP-860_Series-epson-escpr-en.ppd.gz.


And where is that file available? I have searched high and low using what I 
think
is a reputable and powerful search engine, under every kind of phrase. All I 
get is
a link to an rpm file I already have, and have already installed. I looked
specifically for the link to download the ppd file you named, and have not found
it. Anywhere.

Look in /usr/share/ppd/Epson/epson-inkjet-printer-escpr




Actually, the configuration routine found the driver without my having 
to specify it manually. The package obviously installed a long list of 
ppd files. I found the right one and was then able to specify an option 
for full-duplex printing, long edge or short.


Temlakos
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Re: XPS 13 (9360)

2018-02-09 Thread Danishka Navin
Does anyone use Dock with Fedora?
Do you experience any issues?


On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 6:57 PM, Sean Smith  wrote:

> Dell just announced an updated (new) XPS 13 but the older (9360) series
> are still available- for a time?
>
> I've got two of the XPS13 9360:  i3, 4gb / 128ssd with Win10 preloaded
> and  i5 8gb 245ssd with Ubuntu preloaded.  I run/have run Linux on both.  I
> even tried the previous gen XPS13 developer model with the proprietary WiFi
> and Ubuntu preload but returned it because of the enormous hassle with the
> (previous) wifi.
>
> The XPS13 is a great machine for running Linux.  I've run Debian and
> Debian based distros, CentOS, Solus and Fedora on mine.  All the hardware
> works "out of the box" with the notable exception of Debian which require
> non-free drivers for the "Killer" brand Wifi.  I just use the "unofficial"
> Debian non-free iso images to install.
>
> All versions of Fedora; 24, 25, 26 and 27, that I've tried work
> wonderfully on the XPS13.  I would, however, consider getting one with
> Win10 if you catch one on sale or at a discount (i've never seen the
> "Developer/Linux" models discounted).  You can do a Clonzilla image of the
> Win10 preload, then blow it away and install Linux.
>
> One really nice thing about Dell's latest machines, XPS, OptiPlex,
> Latitude, etc., is that you can update the BIOS from the BIOS boot prompt.
> There's no need to boot into an OS to update the BIOS, just download the
> BIOS update file (an .exe) to a FAT flash drive and the BIOS has it's own,
> built in, update engine.
>
> HTH,
>
> Sean
>
>
>
> On 1/2/2018 8:37 AM, Danishka Navin wrote:
>
> no, I would like to go for this model if fedora support.
>
> On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 7:57 PM, Terry Polzin  wrote:
>
>> If you already own this device, try a live CD
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 9:00 AM, Danishka Navin 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> Does anyone use Fedora on XPS 13 (9360) [1] ?
>>> http://www.dell.com/sg/p/xps-13-9360-laptop/pd?oc=w51785746s
>>> gw10_id=xps-13-9360-laptop
>>>
>>> I wonder if device drivers available for this model.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> --
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>>> http://danishkanavin.blogspot.com
>>> http://twitter.com/danishkanavin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Importing FF bookmarks from another profile

2018-02-09 Thread JD



On 02/09/2018 03:12 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 02/09/2018 09:31 AM, JD wrote:

Yes Sam. I tried to restore, and I tried to convert to html.
In both cases, for all the files in bookmarksbackup dir, I
am getting Unable to process the backup file.


I'm confused about how you're trying to do the convert to html. You 
should open Firefox using the old profile.  Go to the bookmarks window 
and use the "export to html" option.  Then in the new profile, you go 
to the bookmarks window and use the "import from html" option.



I am just not sure how in tarnation all of them could get corrupted
I even tried to decompress with  "lz4 -d" command,
but the command said:
Error 44 : Unrecognized header : file cannot be decoded


They started using this before there was a standard lz4 header. See 
https://github.com/avih/dejsonlz4 for a way to uncompress them.
OK, I downloaded the dejsonlz4 tarball, and built it, and used it on one 
of the backup files.


Now, in order to import it as html, I need to convert it to html first.

I do not see a tool that readily converts json to html.
There are websites that let you paste the json text and they output html 
text.
I have not found sites that let you upload the json file, and give you 
the url to download the html output file.


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Re: Importing FF bookmarks from another profile

2018-02-09 Thread JD
On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 3:12 PM, Samuel Sieb  wrote:

> On 02/09/2018 09:31 AM, JD wrote:
>
>> Yes Sam. I tried to restore, and I tried to convert to html.
>> In both cases, for all the files in bookmarksbackup dir, I
>> am getting Unable to process the backup file.
>>
>
> I'm confused about how you're trying to do the convert to html.  You
> should open Firefox using the old profile.  Go to the bookmarks window and
> use the "export to html" option.  Then in the new profile, you go to the
> bookmarks window and use the "import from html" option.
>


Sam - That's EXACTLY what I did!!!


> I am just not sure how in tarnation all of them could get corrupted
>> I even tried to decompress with  "lz4 -d" command,
>> but the command said:
>> Error 44 : Unrecognized header : file cannot be decoded
>>
>
> They started using this before there was a standard lz4 header.  See
> https://github.com/avih/dejsonlz4 for a way to uncompress them.


​OK! Will do. Will get back to you.
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Re: certificate expiry

2018-02-09 Thread Eyal Lebedinsky

Thanks Samuel,

On 10/02/18 09:29, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 02/05/2018 01:01 PM, Eyal Lebedinsky wrote:

As of a month ago I started getting warnings from certwatch saying
 The certificate for Certificate Shack has expired
and
 The certificate for Frank Alpha has expired
which have now expired a week ago.

I wanted to find out who these hosts are and should I care about the expired 
certs.

So far I found these two (and no others) mentioned in the file
 -rw-r- 1 root apache 65536 Jan 26  2014 /etc/httpd/alias/cert8.db
which is an old file which seems to be part of the mod_nss package.

Are these real certs? Test ones left there for no reason?

If they are not needed then what is the correct way to remove them, short of
removing the nss_mod module.


I expect they are sample certs, but I don't know why they are included. I don't 
see those on my server, but my database is much older.

To remove them, go to the /etc/httpd/alias directory.  Run "certutil -L -d ." 
to make sure of the names.


$ sudo certutil -L -d .

Certificate Nickname Trust Attributes
 SSL,S/MIME,JAR/XPI

cacert   CTu,Cu,Cu
Server-Cert  u,u,u
alphau,pu,u

'man certutil' seems to not list the meaning of the attributes flags.
I can guess C and T from the args to '-t' but 'u' is not listed. Maybe just 
'untrusted'?


  Then you can run "certutil -D -d . -n 'Frank Alpha'" for example to remove 
them from the database.


$ sudo certutil -D -d . -n 'Frank Alpha'
certutil: could not find certificate named "Frank Alpha": 
SEC_ERROR_BAD_DATABASE: security library: bad database.
$ sudo certutil -D -d . -n alpha
$ sudo certutil -L -d .

Certificate Nickname Trust Attributes
 SSL,S/MIME,JAR/XPI

cacert   CTu,Cu,Cu
Server-Cert  u,u,u

$ sudo certutil -D -d . -n cacert
$ sudo certutil -L -d .

Certificate Nickname Trust Attributes
 SSL,S/MIME,JAR/XPI

Server-Cert  u,u,u


I will keep an eye on any unusual messages.

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rsync -- permission denied issues

2018-02-09 Thread bruce
Hi.

Doing a test to "clone"/cpy a test vm from a base server to a target server

the user on the base/target server is a basic user.. not in the sudoers file

from the base server.. the rsync cmd is similar to
  rsync --excludefile='foo.dat' / test_user@1.2.3.4:/

I'm getting a bunch of permission denied/operation denied errs...

I've turned selinux off on both the base/target server for this process..

I've thought of iterating through the process and adding to the
exclude file the dirs generating the permission errs..

Any thoughts on a soln to this?

Also, for legitimate files that are owned by other processes/users
that should be copied. Any thoughts on how to cpy them, without
generating the permission errs?

I can post/paste as much information as needed..

thanks
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Re: certificate expiry

2018-02-09 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 02/05/2018 01:01 PM, Eyal Lebedinsky wrote:

As of a month ago I started getting warnings from certwatch saying
 The certificate for Certificate Shack has expired
and
 The certificate for Frank Alpha has expired
which have now expired a week ago.

I wanted to find out who these hosts are and should I care about the 
expired certs.


So far I found these two (and no others) mentioned in the file
 -rw-r- 1 root apache 65536 Jan 26  2014 /etc/httpd/alias/cert8.db
which is an old file which seems to be part of the mod_nss package.

Are these real certs? Test ones left there for no reason?

If they are not needed then what is the correct way to remove them, 
short of

removing the nss_mod module.


I expect they are sample certs, but I don't know why they are included. 
I don't see those on my server, but my database is much older.


To remove them, go to the /etc/httpd/alias directory.  Run "certutil -L 
-d ." to make sure of the names.  Then you can run "certutil -D -d . -n 
'Frank Alpha'" for example to remove them from the database.

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Re: certificate expiry

2018-02-09 Thread Eyal Lebedinsky

On 06/02/18 08:01, Eyal Lebedinsky wrote:

As of a month ago I started getting warnings from certwatch saying
 The certificate for Certificate Shack has expired
and
 The certificate for Frank Alpha has expired
which have now expired a week ago.

I wanted to find out who these hosts are and should I care about the expired 
certs.

So far I found these two (and no others) mentioned in the file
 -rw-r- 1 root apache 65536 Jan 26  2014 /etc/httpd/alias/cert8.db
which is an old file which seems to be part of the mod_nss package.

Are these real certs? Test ones left there for no reason?

If they are not needed then what is the correct way to remove them, short of
removing the nss_mod module.

TIA


Anyone?

More information:
- system is fc26.x86_64

- still getting the messages after reinstall:

$ dnf provides /etc/httpd/alias/cert8.db
Last metadata expiration check: 15 days, 0:01:31 ago on Fri Jan 26 09:10:21 
2018.
mod_nss-1.0.14-3.fc26.x86_64 : SSL/TLS module for the Apache HTTP server
Repo: @System
Matched from:
Filename: /etc/httpd/alias/cert8.db

mod_nss-1.0.14-3.fc26.x86_64 : SSL/TLS module for the Apache HTTP server
Repo: fedora
Matched from:
Filename: /etc/httpd/alias/cert8.db

$ sudo reinstall mod_nss
Reinstalling:
 mod_nss   x86_64 1.0.14-3.fc26 fedora  113 k
Reinstalled:
  mod_nss.x86_64 1.0.14-3.fc26

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Re: Importing FF bookmarks from another profile

2018-02-09 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 02/09/2018 09:31 AM, JD wrote:

Yes Sam. I tried to restore, and I tried to convert to html.
In both cases, for all the files in bookmarksbackup dir, I
am getting Unable to process the backup file.


I'm confused about how you're trying to do the convert to html.  You 
should open Firefox using the old profile.  Go to the bookmarks window 
and use the "export to html" option.  Then in the new profile, you go to 
the bookmarks window and use the "import from html" option.



I am just not sure how in tarnation all of them could get corrupted
I even tried to decompress with  "lz4 -d" command,
but the command said:
Error 44 : Unrecognized header : file cannot be decoded


They started using this before there was a standard lz4 header.  See 
https://github.com/avih/dejsonlz4 for a way to uncompress them.

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Re: dnf installs gcc 7.3.1 but gcc.gnu.org provides only 7.3.0

2018-02-09 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Fri, Feb 09, 2018 at 09:39:55PM +0100, Frédéric wrote:
> How is it possible that dnf installs gcc 7.3.1 when only 7.3.0 exists
> on gcc.gnu.org?

Read https://www.gnu.org/software/gcc/develop.html
"Version Numbering Scheme for GCC 5 and Up" part?
7.3.1 is a version used for 7 branch snapshots in between 7.3 and 7.4
releases, which is what we are shipping in Fedora.  The version also
includes the date when the snapshot has been made.

Jakub
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Re: Epson XP-860: available printer driver won't print in duplex

2018-02-09 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/09/18 23:09, Temlakos wrote:
> On 01/30/2018 06:20 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 01/30/18 19:13, Temlakos wrote:
>>> On 01/29/2018 10:52 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
 On 01/30/18 11:27, Temlakos wrote:
> Recently I bought an Epson XP-860, to replace the XP-810 that finally 
> quit on me
> after many long years of service.
>
> But when I went to install a printer driver, I found that duplex printing 
> is
> simply
> not available.
>
> It might or might not be significant that the recommended printer drivers 
> are
> Epson
> XP-820 CUPS/Gutenprint drivers, regular and simplified.
>
> I tried installing the Epson Printer Utility from the Epson site. But 
> that doesn't
> seem to do anything to make full duplex available.
 You installed epson-inkjet-printer-escpr?

>>> No, that I did not. Should I? What configuration options should I specify?
>>>
>>>
>> Yes, I believe you should.  And when you configure the driver you should 
>> specify  the
>> ppd file Epson-XP-860_Series-epson-escpr-en.ppd.gz.
>>
>
> And where is that file available? I have searched high and low using what I 
> think
> is a reputable and powerful search engine, under every kind of phrase. All I 
> get is
> a link to an rpm file I already have, and have already installed. I looked
> specifically for the link to download the ppd file you named, and have not 
> found
> it. Anywhere.

Look in /usr/share/ppd/Epson/epson-inkjet-printer-escpr



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dnf installs gcc 7.3.1 but gcc.gnu.org provides only 7.3.0

2018-02-09 Thread Frédéric
How is it possible that dnf installs gcc 7.3.1 when only 7.3.0 exists
on gcc.gnu.org?
F
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Re: lightdm authentication failure for one user

2018-02-09 Thread Rick Stevens
On 02/09/2018 08:05 AM, François Patte wrote:
> Le 09/02/2018 à 15:33, Ed Greshko a écrit :
>> On 02/09/18 22:13, François Patte wrote:
>>> Seems to be an empirical way to solve the problem! Nobody knows what is
>>> responsible for such a message (Authenticate result for user cath  :
>>> User not known to the underlying authentication module)? What is this
>>> module and how to inform it that a new user was added?
>>
>> Well, since I am the only one who has responded to your query and since I 
>> only know
>> what I have found by using google, I guess nobody knows for sure what is 
>> causing the
>> problem.
> 
> Trying your trick gives the same result: once the password has been
> given, lightdm behaves like if it was a wrong password and user can't log!
> 
>>
>> At this point are you more interested in getting that user logged in under 
>> lightdm or
>> finding out why they have been unable to?
> 
> I am interested in both, it is quite boring that something has been done
> somewhere and messages in log files are not enough explicit to solve the
> problem This tends to make the system more secretive.
> 
> I googled too, and find some answer related to pam, to ldap Nothing
> about lightdm!

Please check the system logs. It may be an issue with libcrypt (e.g. the
version desired isn't there). I've had that issue with a laptop before
where the PAM system wanted libcrypto.so.6 (which was what was
originally installed way back when) but the current version was
libcrypto.so.10.
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Re: how to (re-?)construct grub menu?

2018-02-09 Thread Rick Stevens
On 02/08/2018 10:13 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 02/08/2018 01:44 PM, Stephen Morris wrote:
>> Just as a slightly off topic question regarding /boot, in /boot I have
>> an efi sub-directory. Why is this when I am booting Fedora 27, Ubuntu
>> 17.10 and Windows 10 with the bios configured as legacy mode and
>> Ubuntu doesn't have an efi directory in /boot, nor have I installed
>> Fedora 27 as efi?
> 
> That's a good question.  I have that as well on a laptop that doesn't
> even support EFI.  That directory isn't owned by anything either.  This
> laptop has been through a lot of Fedora releases though, so maybe that
> directory was created by a previous release.

IIRC, /boot/efi/* is created by the initial anaconda install sequence
and is in place in case you use UEFI at some point in the future. Since
it's only about 15MB in size, it's pretty innocuous and I wouldn't
worry about it. Ubuntu's install mechanism isn't the same and it
probably doesn't create that directory unless it notices you are in UEFI
boot mode at the time of install.

Which is better? I sorta like Fedora...it's there in case you need it
and it really doesn't take up much space. Your browser cache probably
sucks up more disk than /boot/efi does.
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Re: Importing FF bookmarks from another profile

2018-02-09 Thread JD



On 02/08/2018 09:05 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 02/08/2018 06:26 PM, JD wrote:
On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 1:43 PM, Samuel Sieb > wrote:

You're using the wrong option.  You would have to use the "Restore"
option and that would wipe out all your existing bookmarks first. 
In the bookmarks window (try CTRL-SHIFT-o), there's an option under

the "Import and Backup" menu to "Export Bookmarks as HTML". Use
that. You'll also see there the corresponding "Import Bookmarks from
HTML".


​Well, i just used the restore and I got
"​
  Unable to process the backup file.
​ "​
on ever instance of the backup bookmarks files that
are in that profile I wanted to import them from.


Ok, so did you try the other method?

Yes Sam. I tried to restore, and I tried to convert to html.
In both cases, for all the files in bookmarksbackup dir, I
am getting Unable to process the backup file.

I am just not sure how in tarnation all of them could get corrupted
I even tried to decompress with  "lz4 -d" command,
but the command said:
Error 44 : Unrecognized header : file cannot be decoded

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Re: lightdm authentication failure for one user

2018-02-09 Thread Francis . Montagnac

Hi.

On Fri, 09 Feb 2018 17:05:33 +0100 François Patte wrote:

> Le 09/02/2018 à 15:33, Ed Greshko a écrit:
>> On 02/09/18 22:13, François Patte wrote:
>>> Seems to be an empirical way to solve the problem! Nobody knows what is
>>> responsible for such a message (Authenticate result for user cath  :
>>> User not known to the underlying authentication module)? What is this
>>> module and how to inform it that a new user was added?

I've seen that and suspect that it refers to the accounts-daemon.service

I failed to find a detailed description of that :-(

My case was specific: use of the NIS for authenticating users. A
turnaround was to inject the user password declarations in the local
/etc/passwd file :-(

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Re: lightdm authentication failure for one user

2018-02-09 Thread François Patte
Le 09/02/2018 à 15:33, Ed Greshko a écrit :
> On 02/09/18 22:13, François Patte wrote:
>> Seems to be an empirical way to solve the problem! Nobody knows what is
>> responsible for such a message (Authenticate result for user cath  :
>> User not known to the underlying authentication module)? What is this
>> module and how to inform it that a new user was added?
> 
> Well, since I am the only one who has responded to your query and since I 
> only know
> what I have found by using google, I guess nobody knows for sure what is 
> causing the
> problem.

Trying your trick gives the same result: once the password has been
given, lightdm behaves like if it was a wrong password and user can't log!

> 
> At this point are you more interested in getting that user logged in under 
> lightdm or
> finding out why they have been unable to?

I am interested in both, it is quite boring that something has been done
somewhere and messages in log files are not enough explicit to solve the
problem This tends to make the system more secretive.

I googled too, and find some answer related to pam, to ldap Nothing
about lightdm!


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Re: rpmbuild

2018-02-09 Thread Todd Zullinger
Hi,

Patrick Dupre wrote:
> I am trying to create a rpm file from a tgz package.
> Could you help me?
> 
> I have been here
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_a_GNU_Hello_RPM_package
> I run
> rpmbuild -ba textext.spec 
> 
> Here is my file:
> 
> Name:   textext
> Version:0.4
> Release:1%{?dist}
> Summary:The textext for inkscape
> 
> License:GPLv3+
> URL:https://pav.iki.fi/software/textext/
> Source0:https://pav.iki.fi/_downloads/textext-0.4.tar.gz
> #BuildRequires:  
> #Requires:   
> 
> %description
> 
> 
> %prep
> %autosetup
> 
> 
> %build
> %configure
> %make_build
> 
> 
> %install
> rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT

Remove this rm -rf line.  It is not needed or desirable.

> %make_install
> 
> 
> %files
> %license add-license-file-here

Unless the package actually has a file named
add-license-file-here, you should remove this line.  You'll
get a build error otherwise (once you fix the current
error).

> %doc add-docs-here

Same as above.

> %changelog
> * Fri Feb  9 2018 Patrick Dupre 
> - 

Fill in a changelog entry as well.  It might be as simple as
'- Initial package'

> But I get an error:
> 
> rpmbuild -ba textext.spec 
> Executing(%prep): /bin/sh -e /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.0cm1Uq
> + umask 022
> + cd /home/pdupre/rpmbuild/BUILD
> + cd /home/pdupre/rpmbuild/BUILD
> + rm -rf textext-0.4
> + /usr/bin/gzip -dc /home/pdupre/rpmbuild/SOURCES/textext-0.4.tar.gz
> + /usr/bin/tar -xof -
> + STATUS=0
> + '[' 0 -ne 0 ']'
> + cd textext-0.4
> /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.0cm1Uq: line 38: cd: textext-0.4: No such file or directory
> error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.0cm1Uq (%prep)

If you look at the textext-0.4.tar.gz, you'll see that it
does not place the files in a directory:

$ tar -tvf textext-0.4.tar.gz 
-rwxr-x--- pauli/pauli   27225 2008-04-22 17:14 textext.py
-rw--- pauli/pauli 415 2008-01-12 10:48 textext.inx

You'll need to have the %autosetup macro create the
directory for you before it unpacks the tarball.  That is
done with the -c option, so your %autosetup line above
should be:

%autosetup -c

Your next errors will be that this tool has no configure or
Makefile, so %configure, %make_build, and %make_install are
all going to fail.  You will need to replace them with the
actual steps to build/install the textext package.

I suspect that there is nothing to build, so the %build
section can likely be dropped entirely.

Then in the %install section you'll have to create the
needed directory structure and install the files.  And
finally you'll have to list them in the %files section.

You'll really want to read more of the rpm packaging guides
to learn how to do all of those things.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_an_RPM_package
might be a good place to start.

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Re: rpmbuild

2018-02-09 Thread Patrick Dupre
> Den 2018-02-09 kl. 15:45, skrev Patrick Dupre:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I am trying to create a rpm file from a tgz package.
> > Could you help me?
> > 
> > I have been here
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_a_GNU_Hello_RPM_package
> > I run
> > rpmbuild -ba textext.spec 
> > 
> > Here is my file:
> > 
> > Name:   textext
> > Version:0.4
> > Release:1%{?dist}
> > Summary:The textext for inkscape
> > 
> > License:GPLv3+
> > URL:https://pav.iki.fi/software/textext/
> > Source0:https://pav.iki.fi/_downloads/textext-0.4.tar.gz
> > #BuildRequires:  
> > #Requires:   
> > 
> > %description
> > 
> > 
> > %prep
> > %autosetup
> > 
> > 
> > %build
> > %configure
> > %make_build
> > 
> > 
> > %install
> > rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
> > %make_install
> > 
> > 
> > %files
> > %license add-license-file-here
> > %doc add-docs-here
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > %changelog
> > * Fri Feb  9 2018 Patrick Dupre 
> > - 
> > +
> > 
> > But I get an error:
> > 
> > rpmbuild -ba textext.spec 
> > Executing(%prep): /bin/sh -e /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.0cm1Uq
> > + umask 022
> > + cd /home/pdupre/rpmbuild/BUILD
> > + cd /home/pdupre/rpmbuild/BUILD
> > + rm -rf textext-0.4
> > + /usr/bin/gzip -dc /home/pdupre/rpmbuild/SOURCES/textext-0.4.tar.gz
> > + /usr/bin/tar -xof -
> > + STATUS=0
> > + '[' 0 -ne 0 ']'
> > + cd textext-0.4
> > /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.0cm1Uq: line 38: cd: textext-0.4: No such file or directory
> > error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.0cm1Uq (%prep)
> 
> This is telling you that directory "textext-0.4" don't exist.
> If you list the testes-0.4.tar.gz with tar (like this):
> 
> tar -tvf textext-0.4.tar.gz
> 
> what does it say?

tar -tzf textext-0.4.tar.gz 
textext.py
textext.inx

> 
> > 
> > 
> > RPM build errors:
> > Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.0cm1Uq (%prep)
> > 
> > 
> > ===
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Re: rpmbuild

2018-02-09 Thread Jon Ingason
Den 2018-02-09 kl. 15:45, skrev Patrick Dupre:
> Hello,
> 
> I am trying to create a rpm file from a tgz package.
> Could you help me?
> 
> I have been here
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_a_GNU_Hello_RPM_package
> I run
> rpmbuild -ba textext.spec 
> 
> Here is my file:
> 
> Name:   textext
> Version:0.4
> Release:1%{?dist}
> Summary:The textext for inkscape
> 
> License:GPLv3+
> URL:https://pav.iki.fi/software/textext/
> Source0:https://pav.iki.fi/_downloads/textext-0.4.tar.gz
> #BuildRequires:  
> #Requires:   
> 
> %description
> 
> 
> %prep
> %autosetup
> 
> 
> %build
> %configure
> %make_build
> 
> 
> %install
> rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
> %make_install
> 
> 
> %files
> %license add-license-file-here
> %doc add-docs-here
> 
> 
> 
> %changelog
> * Fri Feb  9 2018 Patrick Dupre 
> - 
> +
> 
> But I get an error:
> 
> rpmbuild -ba textext.spec 
> Executing(%prep): /bin/sh -e /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.0cm1Uq
> + umask 022
> + cd /home/pdupre/rpmbuild/BUILD
> + cd /home/pdupre/rpmbuild/BUILD
> + rm -rf textext-0.4
> + /usr/bin/gzip -dc /home/pdupre/rpmbuild/SOURCES/textext-0.4.tar.gz
> + /usr/bin/tar -xof -
> + STATUS=0
> + '[' 0 -ne 0 ']'
> + cd textext-0.4
> /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.0cm1Uq: line 38: cd: textext-0.4: No such file or directory
> error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.0cm1Uq (%prep)

This is telling you that directory "textext-0.4" don't exist.
If you list the testes-0.4.tar.gz with tar (like this):

tar -tvf textext-0.4.tar.gz

what does it say?


> 
> 
> RPM build errors:
> Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.0cm1Uq (%prep)
> 
> 
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Re: Epson XP-860: available printer driver won't print in duplex

2018-02-09 Thread Temlakos

On 01/30/2018 06:20 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 01/30/18 19:13, Temlakos wrote:

On 01/29/2018 10:52 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 01/30/18 11:27, Temlakos wrote:

Recently I bought an Epson XP-860, to replace the XP-810 that finally quit on me
after many long years of service.

But when I went to install a printer driver, I found that duplex printing is 
simply
not available.

It might or might not be significant that the recommended printer drivers are 
Epson
XP-820 CUPS/Gutenprint drivers, regular and simplified.

I tried installing the Epson Printer Utility from the Epson site. But that 
doesn't
seem to do anything to make full duplex available.

You installed epson-inkjet-printer-escpr?


No, that I did not. Should I? What configuration options should I specify?



Yes, I believe you should.  And when you configure the driver you should 
specify  the
ppd file Epson-XP-860_Series-epson-escpr-en.ppd.gz.



And where is that file available? I have searched high and low using 
what I think is a reputable and powerful search engine, under every kind 
of phrase. All I get is a link to an rpm file I already have, and have 
already installed. I looked specifically for the link to download the 
ppd file you named, and have not found it. Anywhere.


Temlakos
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rpmbuild

2018-02-09 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello,

I am trying to create a rpm file from a tgz package.
Could you help me?

I have been here
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_a_GNU_Hello_RPM_package
I run
rpmbuild -ba textext.spec 

Here is my file:

Name:   textext
Version:0.4
Release:1%{?dist}
Summary:The textext for inkscape

License:GPLv3+
URL:https://pav.iki.fi/software/textext/
Source0:https://pav.iki.fi/_downloads/textext-0.4.tar.gz
#BuildRequires:  
#Requires:   

%description


%prep
%autosetup


%build
%configure
%make_build


%install
rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
%make_install


%files
%license add-license-file-here
%doc add-docs-here



%changelog
* Fri Feb  9 2018 Patrick Dupre 
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+

But I get an error:

rpmbuild -ba textext.spec 
Executing(%prep): /bin/sh -e /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.0cm1Uq
+ umask 022
+ cd /home/pdupre/rpmbuild/BUILD
+ cd /home/pdupre/rpmbuild/BUILD
+ rm -rf textext-0.4
+ /usr/bin/gzip -dc /home/pdupre/rpmbuild/SOURCES/textext-0.4.tar.gz
+ /usr/bin/tar -xof -
+ STATUS=0
+ '[' 0 -ne 0 ']'
+ cd textext-0.4
/var/tmp/rpm-tmp.0cm1Uq: line 38: cd: textext-0.4: No such file or directory
error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.0cm1Uq (%prep)


RPM build errors:
Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.0cm1Uq (%prep)


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Re: lightdm authentication failure for one user

2018-02-09 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/09/18 22:13, François Patte wrote:
> Seems to be an empirical way to solve the problem! Nobody knows what is
> responsible for such a message (Authenticate result for user cath  :
> User not known to the underlying authentication module)? What is this
> module and how to inform it that a new user was added?

Well, since I am the only one who has responded to your query and since I only 
know
what I have found by using google, I guess nobody knows for sure what is 
causing the
problem.

At this point are you more interested in getting that user logged in under 
lightdm or
finding out why they have been unable to?

>
>
>> Oh, before that, what is the numeric UID and GID of the user?  If it is less 
>> than
>> 1000 it may cause issues.
>> 3000


OK, so that isn't the issue.

So, have you attempted what I have proposed?   Sometimes getting something to 
work is
more important than finding out why something doesn't work.


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Re: lightdm authentication failure for one user

2018-02-09 Thread François Patte
Le 09/02/2018 à 09:00, Ed Greshko a écrit :
> On 02/09/18 15:33, François Patte wrote:
>> Le 08/02/2018 à 22:45, Ed Greshko a écrit :
>>> On 02/08/18 23:53, François Patte wrote:
 Le 08/02/2018 à 14:39, Ed Greshko a écrit :
> On 02/08/18 20:21, François Patte wrote:
>> I have problem with lightdm greeter: one user cannnot log-in: I have
>> this message in /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log:
>>
>> Authenticate result for user cath  : User not known to the underlying
>> authentication module
>>
>> What does it mean and how to recover?
> First thing to check.  Does user cath have an entry in the /etc/shadow 
> file?
 Certainly! She can login through ssh.
>>> But is the user logging it via ssh using keys or a password?
>> password
>>
>>> Have you, as root, tried resetting the password?
>> Yes I did
>>
> 
> OK
> 
> How about you take note of the numeric UID and GID and then delete the user 
> without
> deleting their home directory.  Then recreate the user with the same numeric 
> UID and
> GID but pointing to a new home directory.  Then test.  If the test is 
> successful then
> change the password file to point to the original home directory.

Seems to be an empirical way to solve the problem! Nobody knows what is
responsible for such a message (Authenticate result for user cath  :
User not known to the underlying authentication module)? What is this
module and how to inform it that a new user was added?


> 
> Oh, before that, what is the numeric UID and GID of the user?  If it is less 
> than
> 1000 it may cause issues.

> 3000

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inkscape

2018-02-09 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello,

I use inkscape, but the behavior that I get is not that is explained
in line. Typically, I do not get the palette tool box.
https://www.wikihow.com/Use-the-Fill-and-Stroke-Functions-in-Inkscape

It results that I cannot open a fill and stroke, and I cannot set an
arrow for example.

Is is a bug or a configuration issue?

Thank for your help.

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Re: CUPS - Some apps can't print

2018-02-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2018-02-09 at 19:49 +1100, Philip Rhoades wrote:
> Hmm . . not sure what happened - I just did what I normally do (which 
> used to work):
> 
> - reply to the list
> 
> - change the subject appropriately
> 
> - edit out extraneous digest stuff and add my response to the 
> appropriate thread
> 
> That should have retained whatever threading was involved?
> 
> Now that I think about it . . I'm not sure how that CAN work . .

It absolutely does NOT work. Replying to digests will only preserve
threading if your mail client has an option such as Reply to Digest
(e.g. Evolution can do this). Otherwise you break threading.

Digests are an outdated concept anyway. They're a hangover from the
days of UUCP and really have no reason to exist any more.

poc
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Re: CUPS - Some apps can't print

2018-02-09 Thread Philip Rhoades

Samuel,



Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2018 21:57:31 -0800
From: Samuel Sieb 
Subject: Re: CUPS - Some apps can't print
To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Message-ID: <4ce94bf2-de98-fdc2-ff82-b94bcffce...@sieb.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

On 02/08/2018 09:38 PM, Philip Rhoades wrote:

I posted a "SOLVED" followup - this fixed the problem:

   dnf update cups-filters

   systemctl restart cups


Sorry about that.  It was further down in my inbox so I didn't see that
until after I sent my reply.  It would have been better if you had
replied in that thread so that the messages would be together in
people's inboxes and in the archives.



Hmm . . not sure what happened - I just did what I normally do (which 
used to work):


- reply to the list

- change the subject appropriately

- edit out extraneous digest stuff and add my response to the 
appropriate thread


That should have retained whatever threading was involved?

Now that I think about it . . I'm not sure how that CAN work . .

P.
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Re: lightdm authentication failure for one user

2018-02-09 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/09/18 15:33, François Patte wrote:
> Le 08/02/2018 à 22:45, Ed Greshko a écrit :
>> On 02/08/18 23:53, François Patte wrote:
>>> Le 08/02/2018 à 14:39, Ed Greshko a écrit :
 On 02/08/18 20:21, François Patte wrote:
> I have problem with lightdm greeter: one user cannnot log-in: I have
> this message in /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log:
>
> Authenticate result for user cath  : User not known to the underlying
> authentication module
>
> What does it mean and how to recover?
 First thing to check.  Does user cath have an entry in the /etc/shadow 
 file?
>>> Certainly! She can login through ssh.
>> But is the user logging it via ssh using keys or a password?
> password
>
>> Have you, as root, tried resetting the password?
> Yes I did
>

OK

How about you take note of the numeric UID and GID and then delete the user 
without
deleting their home directory.  Then recreate the user with the same numeric 
UID and
GID but pointing to a new home directory.  Then test.  If the test is 
successful then
change the password file to point to the original home directory.

Oh, before that, what is the numeric UID and GID of the user?  If it is less 
than
1000 it may cause issues.


-- 
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