Re: false SEAlerts

[Petr Lautrbach]

> On 02/27/2018 11:42 AM, SternData wrote:
> I see that as well on the two laptops we use.  There
> are no actual "alerts."
> 
> Both are running F27 64-bit, SE Linux enforcing and always have the
> latest packages installed.
>  

It's probably this bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1548913 
which I hope is fixed by this update

https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/setroubleshoot-3.3.17-1.fc27


> 
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Re: cssh as non root - No protocol specified

[bruce]

On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 4:40 PM, bruce  wrote:
> Hi.. again...
>
> ok..
>
> If I create /etc/clusters
>
> cat /etc/clusters
> #clusters = testcluster
>
> testcluster1 -a "-t screen -r cSession" cuser@1.2.3.4
>
> cssh testcluster1 doesn't work... throws up a number of windows/terms
> that immediately crash..
>
> However, running
>testcluster1 -a "-t screen -r cSession" cuser@1.2.3.4
> from the cmdline does work...
>
> and it displays the term/window in the running screen session..
>
> So, got 2 questions/issues...
>
> 1- is there a way to get this to work in the config file??
> 2- running from the cmdline works.. but when I do a " ctrlA-d to get
> out of the screen session.. I also kill the term!
> Is there a way to be able to "launch the screen" but also be able
> to kill the screen session, returning to the
> shell if the cssh/window...
> I could prob run some quick/dirty shell script to fire up the
> screen session.. within the window when it gets launched..
>  but that seems kludgy..
>
> thoughts/comments..
>
> thanks
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 2:44 PM, bruce  wrote:
>> Hi.
>>
>> Testing the cssh process.
>>
>> I configured the /etc/clusters file to have
>> -testcluser foo@1.2.3.4
>>
>> As user 'foo' I run -- cssh testuser
>>
>> Process returns:
>>Connection to server failed -- (version 11.0)
>>No protocol specified
>>at /usr/bin/cssh line 2152
>>
>> As a test, logged in as root ran the same thing.. a term displayed.
>>
>> So, I've got something misconfigured on the local to run the gui process.
>>
>> In the /etc/ssh/ssh_config I tested with both
>>   ForwardX11 yes/no 
>>
>> with no difference
>>
>> Looking through the 'net I se a number of possible issues, but as I
>> currently work through them, no change.
>>
>> Thoughts/comments??
>>
>> Thanks


Followup...

Tried to see if it's possible to use cssh to "run" an initial cmd upon
launch. Unable to get it to work.

The following was used.

cssh  -debug 1 --title '11' -a '/home/crawl_user/cssh1.php' crawl_user@1,2,3,4

This is run on the local, to invoke  a term/window for the remote.

The test cssh1.php is a simple php using an input screenSession name
to run/generate the screenSession on the remote.

#!/usr/bin/php


In running the cssh, I get ::
Loading keymaps and keycodes
Warning: Tried to connect to session manager, None of the
authentication protocols specified are supported
159.203.188.67  session closed

where the term/window is displayed for a sec and then dies.

by the way, running

cssh --title '252' -a "-t screen -r crawl2Session" crawl_user@1.2.3.4 &

works as expected with the term fired up and the screen session running.

Any thoughts on what's missing with the attempt as passing arg to the
php to get it to run remotely?

Thanks
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Re: Display Manager Lagging After Last Update

[Ed Greshko]

On 02/28/18 05:37, Stephen Morris wrote:
>
> If I remember correctly, I think in F25 or F26 lightdm was the display 
> manager used
> by default


No.

It depended on the "spin" or Desktop you installed.    If you installed
"Workstation"  aka GNOME it has always been gdm.  If you installed the KDE spin 
it
was originally kdm.  Now, with KDE4, aka plasma, it is sddm. 

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Re: Display Manager Lagging After Last Update

[Ed Greshko]

On 02/28/18 04:37, Stephen Morris wrote:
> I might be getting confused with Ubuntu, but I thought there was a .conf file
> somewhere that held the specification of the default display manager that 
> could
> easily be edited to swap between any of the available display managers that 
> you
> happen to have installed. 


With the advent of systemd there hasn't been a configuration file for a long 
time. 
It is extremely easy to switch between DM's.

systemctl --force enable gdm   or kdm, or sddm, or lightdm or whatever.

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Re: cups sucks!!! Epilogue

[François Patte]

Le 25/02/2018 à 19:42, François Patte a écrit :
> Bonjour.
> 
> I try to configure a printer on my local network but all attemps fail.
> 
> I have a printer attached to one computer on an usb port and I want to
> use it with other computers on my local network.
> 
> I opened firefox on one computer and miracle: the printer attached to
> the other computer is discovered and cups admin interface asks me if I
> want to add this printer. Nice: the job is easy!! *But* this does not
> work at all!!
> 
> Sending a test page returns that the printer is not responding.
> 
> I tried to cofigure the printer using the "Add printer" way and chose
> ipp. According to the given syntax, I wrote: ipp://name-of-server/ipp
> but this does not work: sending a test page returns that the printer is
> misconfigured or no longer exists...
> 
> I replaced the name of the server by its IP address... same result.
> 
> I tried: ipp://name-of-server:631/printers/name-of-printer-on-server. It
> does not work, the message is now: Filter failed.
> 
> What fiter? I don't know as cups logs no longer exist since systemd...
> 
> Does somebody know a solution?

After googleling a lot I could solve my problem but in a very strange way!

First I found some people talking about the impossibility to use the
same driver on the server (the computer to which the printer is plugged)
and the other computers on the LAN, them claimed that the driver to use
on the clients must be the "raw" driver. So I tried to modify the
configuration on a client, changing the driver to raw, but cups refuses
at the end to modify the config and I had to delete the printer on the
client and to re-add the printer from scratch using the raw driver and
cups accepted this way of doing.

But printing a test page failed. "Filter failed" was the error!
journalctl gives useless information, just a joke (maybe): " Job stopped
due to filter errors; please consult the error_log file for details."
There is no more error_log file

At last I tried to use the "automatic way": ask cups to find the
printers on the LAN and add the computer. Using this way, I chose the
raw driver (cups accepted this) but the configuration failed one more
time: "the printer is misconfigured or no longer exists".

So, I asked to modify this configuration, replacing the dnssd address by
an ipp one and I did not change the driver in this modification and,
this time, cups accepted the modification and at last the printer worked!

cups really sucks!


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Re: cssh as non root - No protocol specified

[bruce]

Hi.. again...

ok..

If I create /etc/clusters

cat /etc/clusters
#clusters = testcluster

testcluster1 -a "-t screen -r cSession" cuser@1.2.3.4

cssh testcluster1 doesn't work... throws up a number of windows/terms
that immediately crash..

However, running
   testcluster1 -a "-t screen -r cSession" cuser@1.2.3.4
from the cmdline does work...

and it displays the term/window in the running screen session..

So, got 2 questions/issues...

1- is there a way to get this to work in the config file??
2- running from the cmdline works.. but when I do a " ctrlA-d to get
out of the screen session.. I also kill the term!
Is there a way to be able to "launch the screen" but also be able
to kill the screen session, returning to the
shell if the cssh/window...
I could prob run some quick/dirty shell script to fire up the
screen session.. within the window when it gets launched..
 but that seems kludgy..

thoughts/comments..

thanks





On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 2:44 PM, bruce  wrote:
> Hi.
>
> Testing the cssh process.
>
> I configured the /etc/clusters file to have
> -testcluser foo@1.2.3.4
>
> As user 'foo' I run -- cssh testuser
>
> Process returns:
>Connection to server failed -- (version 11.0)
>No protocol specified
>at /usr/bin/cssh line 2152
>
> As a test, logged in as root ran the same thing.. a term displayed.
>
> So, I've got something misconfigured on the local to run the gui process.
>
> In the /etc/ssh/ssh_config I tested with both
>   ForwardX11 yes/no 
>
> with no difference
>
> Looking through the 'net I se a number of possible issues, but as I
> currently work through them, no change.
>
> Thoughts/comments??
>
> Thanks
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Re: Display Manager Lagging After Last Update

[Stephen Morris]

On 28/2/18 7:46 am, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 02/27/2018 12:37 PM, Stephen Morris wrote:


I'm not using sddm because when I tried it, I didn't like its 
presentation layer, and the same applies to kdm.


Have you tried lightdm?


If I remember correctly, I think in F25 or F26 lightdm was the display 
manager used by default, and I moved away from that a long time ago, and 
if I remember correctly, I moved away from it because I had trouble 
getting it to work properly with Gnome and KDE, but I don't remember 
exactly what the issue was.



regards,

Steve



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Re: Display Manager Lagging After Last Update

[Joe Zeff]

On 02/27/2018 12:37 PM, Stephen Morris wrote:


I'm not using sddm because when I tried it, I didn't like its 
presentation layer, and the same applies to kdm.


Have you tried lightdm?
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Re: Display Manager Lagging After Last Update

[Stephen Morris]

On 26/2/18 9:50 pm, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 02/26/18 18:47, Ed Greshko wrote:

ll /etc/systemd/system/display-manager.service   will point to what you're 
using.


systemctl status display-manager

also will tell you


Thanks Ed, that tells me I'm using gdm. I might be getting confused with 
Ubuntu, but I thought there was a .conf file somewhere that held the 
specification of the default display manager that could easily be edited 
to swap between any of the available display managers that you happen to 
have installed.


The issue I have with the lag, is when I use the mouse to drag the mouse 
pointer over the list of users, the highlighting process lags that badly 
that highlighting of users in the list gets skipped, and if I use the 
arrow keys to cycle backwards and forwards through the list of 5 users, 
it takes approx. 10 to 15 seconds for before each user gets highlighted.


Also having selected the user to login with, in my case my userid, and 
gotten the password prompt, I only use a short password being 5 
characters long, I can type the entire password and press enter to 
action it, before the display manager displays to mask representing the 
first character of the password, having displayed the first mask 
character, it waits for a little while then displays the second mask 
character, waits for a little while and then displays the last 3 mask 
characters all at once.


I don't know if this is part of this issue or not, but having entered my 
password, the system then displays a "black screen" for a period of time 
before displaying the screen with the KDE logo on it to indicate that 
KDE is starting up, but whatever that "black screen" is, the production 
of that screen is enough to send my monitor into power saving mode until 
just before the KDE logo screen is eventually displayed.


I'm not using sddm because when I tried it, I didn't like its 
presentation layer, and the same applies to kdm.



regards,

Steve





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Re: Fedora 27 + Gnome 3.26.2: How to add a BRIDGE on VLAN interface with Gnome Network Control Panel ...

[Samuel Sieb]

On 02/27/2018 09:35 AM, Dario Lesca wrote:

Il giorno mar, 27/02/2018 alle 08.39 -0800, Samuel Sieb ha scritto:

You can't.  It doesn't support management of either vlans or bridges.


Then?
I must fill a bugs on Fedora or Gnome?


It's not a bug since that has never been a supported function for the 
Gnome control panel.  You could file a request that they add it, but 
check first if one already exists.  I believe the current stance is that 
the Gnome control panel is only for typical use cases and if you want 
more control, use nm-connection-editor.


Why don't you want to use nm-connection-editor?  It covers nearly 
everything and works well.

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cssh as non root - No protocol specified

[bruce]

Hi.

Testing the cssh process.

I configured the /etc/clusters file to have
-testcluser foo@1.2.3.4

As user 'foo' I run -- cssh testuser

Process returns:
   Connection to server failed -- (version 11.0)
   No protocol specified
   at /usr/bin/cssh line 2152

As a test, logged in as root ran the same thing.. a term displayed.

So, I've got something misconfigured on the local to run the gui process.

In the /etc/ssh/ssh_config I tested with both
  ForwardX11 yes/no 

with no difference

Looking through the 'net I se a number of possible issues, but as I
currently work through them, no change.

Thoughts/comments??

Thanks
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Re: Fedora 26 & 27 are unable to boot with normal graphic mode on this PC with AMD/ATI RS740 [Radeon 2100] GPU

[stan]

On Tue, 27 Feb 2018 11:58:36 -
"Farhad Mohammadi Majd"  wrote:

> Hello, I have an old PC from 2008 which has integrated graphics
> processors (IGP), I did install Fedora 26 few months ago and it had
> mentioned problem, I used "nomodeset" kernel parameter for boot
> during installation and local boot, but I didn't report the problem.
> 
> Today I did install Fedora 27 (Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-27-1.6)
> and same problem was exist, fortunately Fedora 27 is smarter and it
> added "nomodeset" kernel parameter to the GRUB configuration file for
> local boot, so there is no need to enter it manually to GRUB.
> 
> 
> $ lspci | grep VGA
> 
> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
> [AMD/ATI] RS740 [Radeon 2100] 
> 
> Please guide me step-by-step to solve this problem, thank you.

It isn't clear to me from your description what your problem is.  Is
there no video?  Is the video at the wrong resolution?  Does X (or
wayland) fail to start?  If your system is using the radeon driver from
the kernel, I think that is the best that the kernel provides for older
radeon hardware. There is an amdgpu module for newer hardware.

wayland might not support older hardware.  In X, you will need to be
sure that the correct xorg-X11-driver package is installed, 
xorg-x11-drv-ati.

What does lsmod show for the module the kernel is using?
What shows in /var/log/Xorg.0.log?

Can you successfully boot into multiuser (runlevel 3)?  When the grub
menu comes up, you can hit a key and edit the kernel option line to add
a 3 to the end of it to boot into multiuser.  If you can, what happens
if you then run the command startx?

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clusterssh -cssh

[bruce]

Morn peeps.

Looking over clusterssh (reviewing notes from the past and online).

I can easily see how to configure a cssh/cluster config file to
generate multiple windows/terms to display. However I can't "see" how
to have each window display a given "Screen" session - which allows
the window/term to show the current contents in the given term/window.
Oh at the same time, would it be possible to do a clear/reset in each
window to allow the "vert scroll" function to operate.

The process I have dynamically generates the ipadresses as well as the
screenSession names, so i can dynamically generate a list of valid
ip/screenSessions. My thought is that I can then have a short
proces/script to then generate the cssh /etc/clusters config file to
then process with cssh to display the terms..

thoughts/comments

thanks
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Re: cups sucks!!!

[Gordon Messmer]

Edit /etc/cups/cupsd.conf.  Change "Listen localhost:631" to "Listen *:631"
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Re: Fedora 27 + Gnome 3.26.2: How to add a BRIDGE on VLAN interface with Gnome Network Control Panel ...

[Matthew Miller]

On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 06:35:40PM +0100, Dario Lesca wrote:
> Il giorno mar, 27/02/2018 alle 08.39 -0800, Samuel Sieb ha scritto:
> > You can't.  It doesn't support management of either vlans or bridges.
> Then?
> I must fill a bugs on Fedora or Gnome?

I think in this case, you would just use the NetworkManager tools.
Think of them as "advanced configuration". 

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Re: Fedora 27 + Gnome 3.26.2: How to add a BRIDGE on VLAN interface with Gnome Network Control Panel ...

[Dario Lesca]

Il giorno mar, 27/02/2018 alle 08.39 -0800, Samuel Sieb ha scritto:
> You can't.  It doesn't support management of either vlans or bridges.

Then?
I must fill a bugs on Fedora or Gnome?

Thanks
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Re: RfKiii State requires privileges.

[Jon Ingason]

Den 2018-02-27 kl. 17:22, skrev Ger van Dijck:
> Hi Fedora people,
> 
> When booting my system Fedora 27 (fully updated) I get the message
> RfK111 State requires privileges.

Have a look the following URL:

https://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?314785-After-Upgrade-to-F26-Always-asked-for-root-password-on-login-(additionally)

Maybe this will help you.

> 
> Question : How come ?
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> Ger van Dijck.


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Re: RfKiii State requires privileges.

[Frank Elsner]

On Tue, 27 Feb 2018 17:22:05 +0100 Ger van Dijck wrote:
> Hi Fedora people,
> 
> When booting my system Fedora 27 (fully updated) I get the message RfK111  
> State requires privileges.

Same here. Really annoying for bluetooth usage.

Cheers, 
   Frank
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Re: Gnome extension weirdness

[InvalidPath]

On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 9:09 AM, InvalidPath  wrote:

> So I recently rolled over to Gnome Classic and in doing so tried a few
> extensions. Now for reasons that aren't relevant I disabled all of the
> extensions that I played with and since I couldn't find a GUI method of
> uninstalling them.. I went into the dir:
> ~/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions and deleted all the directories
> that I no longer wanted the extensions from.
>
> Now what's weird is that every time I reboot after logging in I am
> prompted to install all those that I removed.  What config file must I edit
> to stop that from happening?
> Thanks!
>


I've also tried the Gnome Extension browser plugin.. synchronization is
off.  Checked Extensions.gnome.org too, everything I have installed is
turned off, and even in Gnome Tweaks, extensions by and large are disabled.
Yet this whole prompting for installation issue persists.
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Re: false SEAlerts

[Mark C. Allman]

On 02/27/2018 11:42 AM, SternData wrote:
> At least once a day, the SEAlert pops up on my computer, but there's no
> actual content to the alert.
I see that as well on the two laptops we use.  There are no actual "alerts."

Both are running F27 64-bit, SE Linux enforcing and always have the
latest packages installed.
 

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Sr. Project Manager, Allman Professional Consulting, Inc.,
www.allmanpc.com 
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Re: Firefox Quantum and Firefox ESR on the same machine

[Samuel Sieb]

On 02/26/2018 06:56 PM, Robin Laing wrote:
Hi, I need to use Java within Firefox for some network tools that 
require it.  Is there a way to use both Firefox Quantum and Firefox ESR 
on the same machine?


I just download the tarball from Mozilla into my home directory and 
manually run it from there with a separate profile.  Make sure you add 
the "-no-remote" parameter.  You could even make your own .desktop file 
for it for easier launching.

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false SEAlerts

[SternData]

At least once a day, the SEAlert pops up on my computer, but there's no
actual content to the alert.
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Re: Fedora 27 + Gnome 3.26.2: How to add a BRIDGE on VLAN interface with Gnome Network Control Panel ...

[Samuel Sieb]

On 02/27/2018 02:31 AM, Dario Lesca wrote:
... without use vim or nano, or nmcli or nmtui or nm-connection-editor 
or other tools external to Gnome Network control Panel?


You can't.  It doesn't support management of either vlans or bridges.
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RfKiii State requires privileges.

[Ger van Dijck]

Hi Fedora people,

When booting my system Fedora 27 (fully updated) I get the message RfK111  
State requires privileges.


Question : How come ?


Regards,


Ger van Dijck.
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Failed to apply network settings.

[Ger van Dijck]

Hi all ,


When booting Fedora27 (fully updated) I get the following message : Failed  
to apply network settings.


When looking in Exception  
:g-io-error-Quark:GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Python.dbus.exceptions.DbusException:Not  
authorized (36).


What is wrong ?

Kind Regards,


Ger van Dijck.
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Re: Firefox Quantum and Firefox ESR on the same machine

[Fernando Cassia]

On 2/27/18, Robin Laing  wrote:

> Thanks for the quick response.

You're welcome.

> I would rather do it the other way and have the ESR version as the
> firefox-oldest.

But I'm not sure if the AppImage project maintainers build
Firefox-ESR... I haven't seen it on the repo.

> A separate profile is a great idea and I normally use different accounts
> for most of my stuff if possible.  Helps to keep my stuff separate and
> less finger issues.  :)
>
> Will try it tonight.
> Robin

There's some odd configuration in bintray that hosts the AppImage
binaries where there appears a : on the path, you have to remove it if
you want to download using wget...

Also, remember to sudo chmod a+x the .Appimage to make it executable.
You can then rename it to whatever you want...  move it around to some
dir in your $PATH

FC
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Re: R as on Ubuntu and Fedora

[George N. White III]

On 27 February 2018 at 06:34, José Abílio Matos  wrote:

> On Wednesday, 21 February 2018 03.10.31 WET Max Pyziur wrote:
>
> > ggplot2, tibble, tidyr dplyr. They seem to be popular and becoming more
>
> > integral to R.
>
> >
>
> > As for the point about 435 on Ubuntu vs the ~140 on Fedora: I assume
> those
>
> > 435 are reflective of popularity, frequency of usage, and maintenance. It
>
> > would be ridiculous to put all 6,000 CRAN packages into the Fedora eco
>
> > system.
>
> >
>
> > But consider perl and the number of packages that have been rpm'd, even
>
> > though some are close to stale. The benefit of having a package is that
> it
>
> > is built with the whole distro in mind.
>
>
>
This has pros and cons.  Pro is that you can install packages without
having to find and install supporting libraries.  Con is that newer
packages may require versions of supporting packages that are
newer than the version in the distro.

> If you install packages local to a user, then they might not/probably are
>
> > not available to other users (but to engage in self argument: how many
>
> > other "users" have access to your own systems - desktop & laptop?)
>
>
>
At work we have an operational system with multiple users.  The current
version uses a bare C++ library, but the same library is wrapped by
an R package which is far easier to use than a system where every
change needs a C++ compiler.  The operational system uses a
number of very large 3rd party applications, including R, each expecting
specific versions of libraries.   Getting all these applications to play
nicely is difficult.  A few years ago, many of the potential conflicts
were avoided by static linking.  The recent trend in which every application
"calls home"  combined with transitions to https has caused many
developers to abandon static linking, so there are more now more
conflicts than ever before.   The conflicts are not just differing versions
of libraries, there are many libraries (e.g., the proj4 projections) that
provide data files.  Some applications provide non-standard versions of
these
data files, and expect users to set an environment variable that
instructs the library to the "special" versions of the data files.  This
breaks all the applications that were developed to work with the
standard data files.

There are people looking to address some of these issues using
lightweight virtualization, but at present those techniques are
limited to ad-hoc projects and testing.



> > Sure, there is little challenge to installing R packages using
>
> > install.packages("SomePackageName"); my concern is more for the sake of
>
> > consistency: if perl, python, php, etc., have their modules/function
>
> > libraries built for Fedora, why not R?
>
> >
>
> > Curious, not kvetching,
>
> >
>
> > MP
>
>
>
> BTW I think that CRAN now is over 10 000 packages so even 435 is less than
> 5%.
>
>
>
> I maintain some of those packages in Fedora, and from practical experience
> I
>
can tell you that one of the problems when packaging a new R package into
>
Fedora is that every time you start you have to unravel all the
> dependencies.
>
Sometimes you need to go 5 levels deeps, with a net result of ~40/50 new
>
packages that need to be added before adding the package you interested in.
>
>
>

How often does a new R package require a version or configuration
of a library that differs from what the distro provides?  Libraries like
hdf5 and gdal
have many configuration options.  In my experience, distro versions often
omit
options needed for my work (remote sensing).  Too often you can easily
install
an R package, only to discover that it fails for your "use case" and has to
be
rebuilt using non-distro libraries.


> Recently some of the packages required to have the packages you referred
> above
>
are starting to show in Fedora. But that is a process that takes time and
> requires energy.
>
>
>
> I presented a talk in useR 2008:
>
> https://jamatos.fedorapeople.org/talk-user2008.pdf
>
>
>
> FWIW this problem is not specific to R the same happens for python. There
> are
>
packages where unraveling new dependencies is also a problem.
>

The talk mentions some of the issues with "suggested" packages.  Of course,
the first question is whether all the "suggested" packages can be built
using
R install.packages().  Creating distro packages is labor intensive.
Packages that
are very widely used should be in distro packages, but so should packages
that are less widely used but still popular and which require extra steps to
build (e.g., rely on 3rd party libraries so need dev packages outside the
normal "build-essential" lists , or which don't reliable detect installed
distro
packages).  It would be nice to have such  packages identified on CRAN so
package developers can work on the issues.

Many large organizations provide managed platforms for large
applications.
These platforms get distro packages, are are generally expected to have a
5-year
lifetime.  After year 2 of the 5,

Fedora 26 & 27 are unable to boot with normal graphic mode on this PC with AMD/ATI RS740 [Radeon 2100] GPU

[Farhad Mohammadi Majd]

Hello, I have an old PC from 2008 which has integrated graphics processors 
(IGP), I did install Fedora 26 few months ago and it had mentioned problem, I 
used "nomodeset" kernel parameter for boot during installation and local boot, 
but I didn't report the problem.

Today I did install Fedora 27 (Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-27-1.6) and same 
problem was exist, fortunately Fedora 27 is smarter and it added "nomodeset" 
kernel parameter to the GRUB configuration file for local boot, so there is no 
need to enter it manually to GRUB.


$ lspci | grep VGA

01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RS740 
[Radeon 2100]


Please guide me step-by-step to solve this problem, thank you.
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Re: R as on Ubuntu and Fedora

[José Abílio Matos]

On Wednesday, 21 February 2018 03.10.31 WET Max Pyziur wrote:
> ggplot2, tibble, tidyr dplyr. They seem to be popular and becoming more
> integral to R.
> 
> As for the point about 435 on Ubuntu vs the ~140 on Fedora: I assume those
> 435 are reflective of popularity, frequency of usage, and maintenance. It
> would be ridiculous to put all 6,000 CRAN packages into the Fedora eco
> system.
> 
> But consider perl and the number of packages that have been rpm'd, even
> though some are close to stale. The benefit of having a package is that it
> is built with the whole distro in mind.
> 
> If you install packages local to a user, then they might not/probably are
> not available to other users (but to engage in self argument: how many
> other "users" have access to your own systems - desktop & laptop?)
> 
> Sure, there is little challenge to installing R packages using
> install.packages("SomePackageName"); my concern is more for the sake of
> consistency: if perl, python, php, etc., have their modules/function
> libraries built for Fedora, why not R?
> 
> Curious, not kvetching,
> 
> MP

BTW I think that CRAN now is over 10 000 packages so even 435 is less than 5%.

I maintain some of those packages in Fedora, and from practical experience I 
can tell you that 
one of the problems when packaging a new R package into Fedora is that every 
time you start 
you have to unravel all the dependencies. Sometimes you need to go 5 levels 
deeps, with a net 
result of ~40/50 new packages that need to be added before adding the package 
you interested 
in.

Recently some of the packages required to have the packages you referred above 
are starting 
to show in Fedora. But that is a process that takes time and requires energy.

I presented a talk in useR 2008:
https://jamatos.fedorapeople.org/talk-user2008.pdf

FWIW this problem is not specific to R the same happens for python. There are 
packages where 
unraveling new dependencies is also a problem.

Regards,
-- 
José Matos
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Fedora 27 + Gnome 3.26.2: How to add a BRIDGE on VLAN interface with Gnome Network Control Panel ...

[Dario Lesca]

... without use vim or nano, or nmcli or nmtui or nm-connection-editor
or other tools external to Gnome Network control Panel?

Thanks


-- 
Dario Lesca
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RE: digitally signing a PDF file in Fedora

[J.Witvliet]

You can use Libreoffice for digitally signing PDF's
(Not only the pdf created by L.O., but also existing PDF's)

-Original Message-
From: Ranjan Maitra [mailto:mai...@email.com]
Sent: maandag 26 februari 2018 21:03
To: Community support for Fedora users
Subject: OT: digitally signing a PDF file in Fedora

Hi,

Is there a way to digitally sign a pdf file in Fedora. I have noticed that my 
colleagues on Windoze and Mucks all append their signatures using "Digitally 
Signed by...and time" presumaby using Acrobat, but is there a way to do this 
with something in Fedora? Of course, I prefer an OSS tool.

Best wishes,
Ranjan



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