Re: tmux and powerline, unwanted info and error messages

2018-08-27 Thread Cameron Simpson

On 27Aug2018 17:01, Chris Murphy  wrote:

OHH.
I think I know what's going on!

I'm using yakyak as a Google Hangouts app in Fedora. And I have run it
with & so it just goes away. And in that same terminal window I
connected to the Fedora 28 server. And normally I don't do that, so
I'm just wrongly blaming the most recent change which was installing
powerline.

Haha! Time for a walk of shame...


Aha. An interactive ssh connection also puts your _local_ terminal into raw 
mode (and the pty at the server's end starts in cooked mode). So the process is 
outside your tmux, it's just outside the server too :-)


You could divert yakyak's output to a log file.

Cheers,
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Re: NetworkManager, Avahi, WiFi v Wired priority

2018-08-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/28/18 03:31, Chris Murphy wrote:
> nmclic c show 
>
> connection.autoconnect-priority should be higher on the preferred connection.
>
> https://developer.gnome.org/NetworkManager/stable/nm-settings.html
>
> So I've picked a value of 1 for wired and 0 for wifi. That should mean
> if I make an outgoing connection, it should always prefer wired. And
> yet 'netstat -natp' shows this is not true, sometimes it's using the
> wired path sometimes the wireless path, and I can't tell what the
> pattern is. If any.


I don't believe the parameters do what you are thinking they do.  "Connection" 
refers
to "Connection Profiles" and not how data flows on the network.

You can have multiple connection profiles for the same physical device.  I 
think the
best way to illustrate this is by using a WiFi Device. 

For example, lets say you have a device wlp4s0.  For that device you can create
multiple "Connection Profiles".   The major difference between the profiles 
would
most likely be the SSID.  Both connections could have the  autoconnect 
parameter set
to "yes".  However, you could then set autoconnect-priority to give priority of 
one
SSID over the other (or others).  This way if both SSID's are available you can 
be
sure your preferred SSID will get connected.

You could have a similar configuration for an ethernet connection.  One 
connection
profile may have a requirement that IPv6 be available and have priority over 
another
profile were IPv6  isn't required.  Potentially, in both profiles you have 
static
IPv4 addresses which differ.  This way a profile would be selected automatically
depending on where you connected your laptop, for example.

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Re: tmux and powerline, unwanted info and error messages

2018-08-27 Thread Chris Murphy
OHH.
I think I know what's going on!

I'm using yakyak as a Google Hangouts app in Fedora. And I have run it
with & so it just goes away. And in that same terminal window I
connected to the Fedora 28 server. And normally I don't do that, so
I'm just wrongly blaming the most recent change which was installing
powerline.

Haha! Time for a walk of shame...


Chris Murphy
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Re: tmux and powerline, unwanted info and error messages

2018-08-27 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 3:24 PM, Cameron Simpson  wrote:
> On 27Aug2018 15:00, Chris Murphy  wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 2:23 PM, Ed Greshko 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 08/28/18 01:54, Chris Murphy wrote:
>>
>> I think it's fixed now. And also have an updated screenshot with more
>> spew...
>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1sWXUoaJcWJrIEjHLwEX9r1l3VMgGvWZj
>
>
> Ok. This isn't a full diagnosis but an observation.
>
> That stepped output, when end of line just moves the cursor down one row
> without returning to the start of the next one? That is a standard symptom
> of a process _outside_ your tmux session producing output.
>
> What's happening?
>
> UNIX programmes end lines with newline (NL, ASCII code 10) characters. The
> normal "cooked" terminal mode converts these into a CR (carriage return,
> moving the cursor to the left edge) and a NL (moving the cursor down).
>
> When you run a full screen programme like tmux or screen or vi, that mode
> gets turned off and the programme itself is responsible for managing the
> display.  That allows it proper control. Tmux itself manages a
> pseudoterminal and the terminal mode on _that_ inner terminal does the
> NL->CR,NL translation, so all the inner programmes emit normal looking
> output.
>
> _However_, programmes running _outside_ your tmux session are not having
> this done because the outer terminal is not in that mode. Therefore the
> stepped output is from a programme outside your tmux session.
>
> What have you got which (a) connects to plus.google.com and/or (b) runs a
> GUI (see the MESA-LOADER and libGL messages, an X11 3D rendering library). I
> suspect a web browser started from the terminal outside the tmux session. Or
> a messaging programme (and "SID" might be a "session id").

This is running on Fedora Server, it's GUI free. And there's nothing
in the journal about any of these messages I'm seeing only once
installing powerline and tmux integration.

The only thing really running? There's samba serving some shares. And
I have a docker container of battery historian running, but that
shouldn't be leaking out of the container? This container I think is
running apache to serve up a web page I connect to from Workstation,
feed it an android bug report and it eats that and displays some
charts and stuff.

I have nothing using plus.google.com or any google.com service on this Server.


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Re: tmux and powerline, unwanted info and error messages

2018-08-27 Thread Cameron Simpson

On 27Aug2018 15:00, Chris Murphy  wrote:

On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 2:23 PM, Ed Greshko  wrote:

On 08/28/18 01:54, Chris Murphy wrote:

I think it's fixed now. And also have an updated screenshot with more spew...
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1sWXUoaJcWJrIEjHLwEX9r1l3VMgGvWZj


Ok. This isn't a full diagnosis but an observation.

That stepped output, when end of line just moves the cursor down one row 
without returning to the start of the next one? That is a standard symptom of a 
process _outside_ your tmux session producing output.


What's happening?

UNIX programmes end lines with newline (NL, ASCII code 10) characters. The 
normal "cooked" terminal mode converts these into a CR (carriage return, moving 
the cursor to the left edge) and a NL (moving the cursor down).


When you run a full screen programme like tmux or screen or vi, that mode gets 
turned off and the programme itself is responsible for managing the display.  
That allows it proper control. Tmux itself manages a pseudoterminal and the 
terminal mode on _that_ inner terminal does the NL->CR,NL translation, so all 
the inner programmes emit normal looking output.


_However_, programmes running _outside_ your tmux session are not having this 
done because the outer terminal is not in that mode. Therefore the stepped 
output is from a programme outside your tmux session.


What have you got which (a) connects to plus.google.com and/or (b) runs a GUI 
(see the MESA-LOADER and libGL messages, an X11 3D rendering library). I 
suspect a web browser started from the terminal outside the tmux session. Or a 
messaging programme (and "SID" might be a "session id").


Cheers,
Cameron Simpson 
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Re: tmux and powerline, unwanted info and error messages

2018-08-27 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 2:23 PM, Ed Greshko  wrote:
> On 08/28/18 01:54, Chris Murphy wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> screenshot:
>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1eEPFeHD-85CTarZbUwewMEJoQ23fNo8G
>
> You need to make a change since viewing the URL gets one

I think it's fixed now. And also have an updated screenshot with more spew...

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1sWXUoaJcWJrIEjHLwEX9r1l3VMgGvWZj

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Re: log spam : i2c_hid_get_input: incomplete report

2018-08-27 Thread stan
On Mon, 27 Aug 2018 16:52:50 -0400
sean darcy  wrote:

> On 08/27/2018 12:39 PM, stan wrote:
 
> > Was there a kernel where the touchpad worked and there was no
> > spamming of the log? A diff between the two drivers for the
> > touchpad would probably indicate the change to the driver that is
> > causing this behavior.

> Good idea. Entered as a kernel bug:
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1622695

You could try with the last 4.16 kernel for f28,
https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=1092581

Just download the kernel rpms that you use, and install them with
dnf -C install [list of package rpms separated by spaces]
Find the kernel packages you have installed with 
rpm -qa | grep -e '^kernel'
or
dnf list installed | grep -e '^kernel'

If it works, you have a workaround, and you can also put in the ticket
that it probably happened after the transition to 4.17.  Or, you could
just keep moving up kernel versions until you find the version where it
began.  More likely to get fixed with that pointer to the origin of the
issue.
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Re: log spam : i2c_hid_get_input: incomplete report

2018-08-27 Thread sean darcy

On 08/27/2018 12:39 PM, stan wrote:

On Mon, 27 Aug 2018 11:09:29 -0400
sean darcy  wrote:
  

Yes, the driver loads and the touchpad works. This bug is about the
driver not working, not warnings spamming the log.


OK, I thought that the driver wasn't working and spamming, not working
and spamming.

I found this recent report on arch that seems to be the same problem,
different than the one referenced in the fedora bugzilla.

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=238656

The device is returning a message that falls outside the check
parameters of the driver.  I haven't looked at the code, but I think it
could be that a high order bit is being set by the device to return a
negative number for an error condition.  If the comparison variables are
unsigned in the driver, that would make the message appear very large.


There is a bug for the spamming:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1616414

but nobody is paying any attention. That's why I asked on the list.


You could try the devel list, where more developers hang out, or the
kernel list.  Or reassign the bug to the kernel where it might get
more attention, since this seems to be a kernel driver issue.

Was there a kernel where the touchpad worked and there was no spamming
of the log? A diff between the two drivers for the touchpad would
probably indicate the change to the driver that is causing this
behavior.
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Good idea. Entered as a kernel bug:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1622695

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Re: tmux and powerline, unwanted info and error messages

2018-08-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/28/18 01:54, Chris Murphy wrote:
> Hi,
>
> screenshot:
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1eEPFeHD-85CTarZbUwewMEJoQ23fNo8G

You need to make a change since viewing the URL gets one


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NetworkManager, Avahi, WiFi v Wired priority

2018-08-27 Thread Chris Murphy
Hi,

Summary: What I want is, for a Fedora 28 Server (Intel NUC) to always
prefer using wired connection if available, and fallback on wifi; not
just for outgoing connections but also when I do 'ssh
chris@f28s.local'. There is one AP/router that serves both wired and
wireless connections and both server and workstation.

Out of the box this doesn't happen. So first questions are: should it
work out of the box? can it be made to work? and if so what do I need
to modify to make it work as described?


What I've learned so far:

1.
nmclic c show 

connection.autoconnect-priority should be higher on the preferred connection.

https://developer.gnome.org/NetworkManager/stable/nm-settings.html

So I've picked a value of 1 for wired and 0 for wifi. That should mean
if I make an outgoing connection, it should always prefer wired. And
yet 'netstat -natp' shows this is not true, sometimes it's using the
wired path sometimes the wireless path, and I can't tell what the
pattern is. If any.

2.
If I 'scp  chris@f28s.local:/tmp' I more often than
not get clearly wifi speeds (and a connection check confirms it's
using the wifi ip), but sometimes it's wired. Again, I can't figure
out the pattern.

3.
If I disconnect the wired connection, yes everything is
deterministically wifi haha. But if I connect wired back in, the first
X connections (or maybe it's Y time) are always only wifi and not
wired. If I restart avahi manually, it becomes wired.

So that means avahi might be playing a role here, it has no way of
defining preferred connection though that I can tell. But I don't know
anything about multicast and whether it can specify more than one
address for a host name, and with preference based on the
NetworkManager connection priority?

Thanks,

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tmux and powerline, unwanted info and error messages

2018-08-27 Thread Chris Murphy
Hi,

screenshot:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1eEPFeHD-85CTarZbUwewMEJoQ23fNo8G

I'm seeing this garbage spit out for some reason I don't understand.

The setups is: Fedora 28 Workstation, GNOME Terminal accessing a
remote Fedora 28 Server. This spew only just started after making the
otherwise neat changes listed here:

https://fedoramagazine.org/4-tips-better-tmux-sessions/
https://fedoramagazine.org/add-power-terminal-powerline/

Specifically in order I did (all on the Server):

1.
Modify ~/.bash_profile file:

if [ -z "$TMUX" ]; then
tmux attach -t default || tmux new -s default
fi

2.
sudo dnf install tmux-powerline

3.
Modify ~/.bashrc file:

if [ -f `which powerline-daemon` ]; then
  powerline-daemon -q
  POWERLINE_BASH_CONTINUATION=1
  POWERLINE_BASH_SELECT=1
  . /usr/share/powerline/bash/powerline.sh
fi

4.
Modify ~/.tmux.conf file:

source "/usr/share/tmux/powerline.conf"


I've gone through one page of issues
https://github.com/powerline/powerline/issues and haven't found
anything related off hand; maybe it's a bug but I'm not sure even how
I'd file the bug.





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Re: Brother MFCL2710DW on Fedora?

2018-08-27 Thread Fred Smith
On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 02:26:01PM +0200, Gianluca Cecchi wrote:
>Hello,
>i'm replacing an Hp Officejet 4620 after print heads problems in 2
>years of life.
>I got tired with inkjet and their imitations and due to my sporadic
>needs and only b/w, I would like to buy a black white laserjet with
>scanner capabilities too.
>I see the product in object that seems quite good from an hw point of
>view but it is not clear to me the status with Linux support, both with
>printing and scanning.
>Anyone using this product or similar one in the line?
>Any suggestions?
>Thanks in advance,
>Gianluca

I am not familiar with that particular Brother priinter but in general
they offer linux drives (downloaded from their web site) for every
brother printer I've used (3 or 4, not all) and they all work for me.

go to their page for that printer and find the link for Linux drivers.
should be a single download that is a tool that grabs the right driver
files and installs them for you.

good luck!


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Re: log spam : i2c_hid_get_input: incomplete report

2018-08-27 Thread stan
On Mon, 27 Aug 2018 11:09:29 -0400
sean darcy  wrote:
 
> Yes, the driver loads and the touchpad works. This bug is about the 
> driver not working, not warnings spamming the log.

OK, I thought that the driver wasn't working and spamming, not working
and spamming.

I found this recent report on arch that seems to be the same problem,
different than the one referenced in the fedora bugzilla.

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=238656 

The device is returning a message that falls outside the check
parameters of the driver.  I haven't looked at the code, but I think it
could be that a high order bit is being set by the device to return a
negative number for an error condition.  If the comparison variables are
unsigned in the driver, that would make the message appear very large.

> There is a bug for the spamming:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1616414
> 
> but nobody is paying any attention. That's why I asked on the list.  

You could try the devel list, where more developers hang out, or the
kernel list.  Or reassign the bug to the kernel where it might get
more attention, since this seems to be a kernel driver issue.

Was there a kernel where the touchpad worked and there was no spamming
of the log? A diff between the two drivers for the touchpad would
probably indicate the change to the driver that is causing this
behavior.
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Re: log spam : i2c_hid_get_input: incomplete report

2018-08-27 Thread sean darcy

On 08/25/2018 04:39 PM, stan wrote:

On Sat, 25 Aug 2018 11:59:40 -0400
sean darcy  wrote:


20+ times per _second_ syslog has:
i2c_hid i2c-ELAN0501:01: i2c_hid_get_input: incomplete report
(14/65535)

It makes it impossible to use journalctl. How do I get rid of this ?


So this is your touchpad.

Does the driver for the device load properly?  lsmod to see.

There was a problem for this in fedora.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1391733

And it appears that bug was fixed with a kernel update.

Try an earlier or later kernel?

If you have a mouse you can use, you could blacklist it
in /etc/modprobe.d or remove the driver module after boot to end the
messages, but you would lose the touchpad.
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Yes, the driver loads and the touchpad works. This bug is about the 
driver not working, not warnings spamming the log.


There is a bug for the spamming:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1616414

but nobody is paying any attention. That's why I asked on the list.

sean


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Brother MFCL2710DW on Fedora?

2018-08-27 Thread Gianluca Cecchi
Hello,
i'm replacing an Hp Officejet 4620 after print heads problems in 2 years of
life.
I got tired with inkjet and their imitations and due to my sporadic needs
and only b/w, I would like to buy a black white laserjet with scanner
capabilities too.

I see the product in object that seems quite good from an hw point of view
but it is not clear to me the status with Linux support, both with printing
and scanning.

Anyone using this product or similar one in the line?
Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance,
Gianluca
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Re: Rstudio

2018-08-27 Thread José Abílio Matos
On Monday, 27 August 2018 05.53.04 WEST Javier Perez wrote:
> Fedora 28.
> 
> Why is Rstudio 0.99.467 ?
> 
> When I start it Rstudio tells me that there is a newer 1.1.456
> 
> Just wondering.

Hi Javier,
  Rstudio is not on Fedora so you should have probably installed it by hand 
(eventually using the rpm provided there).

When rstudio starts it always checks if there is a new version available. That 
is what you are getting.

Regards,
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Twitter Clients for Linux working after API cuts

2018-08-27 Thread Oliver Paukstadt
Hi

I was using corebird for a while as a twitter client.
It does not work any more:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/corebirds-future-18921328
http://apps-of-a-feather.com/

Are there any known Linux clients for twitter still working after the
API cuts?

Regards,
Oliver 
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Re: xsane doesn't work

2018-08-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/27/18 15:06, Angelo Moreschini wrote:
> I tried to reinstall the printer, and made many other tries (also restoring 
> the
> default options from the setting table) without success.
> But likely I have another computer that use the same printer... (it works 
> good with
> scanner mode).
> So I copied the files in the directory ~/.sane/xsane from the other computer 
> in the
> computer that it doesn't worked  *AND THAT RESOLVED THE PROBLEM.
> *
> _Very strange the same working around didn't work by restoring the data with 
> the
> option "Load Device Setting"  in the tab "Preferences"
> _
> Thank you Ed for your interest  to my problem.


Glad it all worked out.

FWIW, I would have done a "mv ~/.sane/xsane someplace" and then copied the 
stuff from
another computer.  That way I could do "diffs" on the files to see what changed.


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Re: xsane doesn't work

2018-08-27 Thread Angelo Moreschini
I tried to reinstall the printer, and made many other tries (also restoring
the default options from the setting table) without success.
But likely I have another computer that use the same printer... (it works
good with scanner mode).
So I copied the files in the directory ~/.sane/xsane from the other
computer in the computer that it doesn't worked  
*AND THAT RESOLVED THE PROBLEM.*

*Very strange the same working around didn't work by restoring the data
with the option "Load Device Setting"  in the tab "Preferences"*
Thank you Ed for your interest  to my problem.



On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 9:49 AM Angelo Moreschini 
wrote:

> I reinstalled CUPS but this wasn't enough.
> actually when I launch xsane yournalctl report :
> failed to open  hpaio:/usb/Deskjet_2510_series?serial=CN34B3JGDN05TX:
> Error during device IO
>
>
> the window of xsane start anyhow, bu whe
>
> On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 5:22 PM Ed Greshko  wrote:
>
>> On 08/25/18 21:59, Angelo Moreschini wrote:
>> > $ sane-find-scanner I get :
>> > found USB scanner (vendor=0x03f0 [HP], product=0xac11 [*Deskjet 2510
>> series*]) at
>> > libusb:003:006
>> >
>> > yes, on my computer it is installed hplip - and I  also tried to run
>> hp-plugin..
>> > I don't remember if I needed hp-setup for the first installation.
>>
>> According to
>>
>> https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing/supported_devices/index
>> your
>> printer doesn't need a plugin.
>> >
>> > I also tried to reinstall xsane but this wasn't enough (the file of
>> setup remained) .
>>
>> I was actually suggesting deleting the printer devices and redoing
>> hp-setup.  I found
>> that using the hp-setup and hp-toolbox utilities to helpful in getting
>> HP printers setup.
>> >
>> > xsane worked good for much time as till I made samting wrong ... (in
>> the setup
>> > panel (?))
>> >
>> > *I rewrite the content of journalctl...
>> >
>> > *Aug 25 11:18:04 localhost.pluto xsane[2791]: *scan/sane/http.c 300:
>> unable to open
>> > HP-LEDM-SCAN channel*
>> > Aug 25 11:18:04 localhost.pluto xsane[2791]: *scan/sane/bb_ledm.c 531:
>> unable to
>> > open http connection hp:/usb/Deskjet_2510_series?serial=CN34B3JGDN05TX*
>>
>>
>> The message seems to be saying that http protocol is used over the USB
>> port to
>> communicate with printer/scanner.  I'm not familiar with USB
>> printer/scanners.  I do
>> wonder if you can print or if that fails as well?
>>
>> And, how about resetting the device to the factory settings if you think
>> you may have
>> made some changes by accident?
>>
>> --
>> Conjecture is just a conclusion based on incomplete information. It isn't
>> a fact.
>>
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