Tip: dual boot off of gpt , and legacy and UEFI

2019-02-15 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

OH HOLY [expletive deleted]!!!  I can't believe figured this out


UEFI.BIOS.Dual.Boot.txt:

References that stink:
https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=223015
https://bl.ocks.org/gdamjan/05b799162e4b3e97a30d37a89fed0fa8

https://forum.level1techs.com/t/configure-grub-to-boot-legacy-and-uefi/129382


Requirements:
   Fedora 29

   Before installing, gparted:
  Wipe the target disk

  create a partitin table as GPT

  create a first partition as
  1 Meg
  unformatted
  set the partition flag to "bios_grub"

   Install Fedora 29 from a UEFI machine:
  remove "/home" was removed at installation and moved into "/"

--->>>   PRESUMED !!!   <<<---
  The machine was install and booted from UEFI
  The machine is mounted as /dev/sda


Install the legacy BIOS boot loader:

Boot into fedora on UEFI

only installs 3 files
# dnf reinstall grub2-pc

create the BIOS .cfg file
# grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg

You made room for this by making the 1 MB partition "bios_grub" so use 
"--force"
# grub2-install --force --removable --recheck --target=i386-pc 
--boot-directory=/boot /dev/sda




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Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data

2019-02-15 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 10:32 PM  wrote:
>
> It depends on several crucial points.
>
> 1)  For how long do you need 50 TB (months, a year, several years, 
> for-ever)

Forever.

>
> 2)  How quickly do you need to retrieve

Infrequent retrieval.

>
> 3)  Reliability

100% reliability.

>
> 4)  Sensitivity

Personal data.

>
>
>
> 4-> Depending on WHAT you are going to store, it might be that you are simply 
> not even allowed to store it in some cloud
>
> 2-> Tape might be an option, if you can wait a day or so J
>
> 1-> This defines your financial break-even-point
>
> If it is for a short while, you might look for external storage,
>
> But when paying hundreds per month, for several years…
>
>
>
> When you think of local (self) storage, you should definitely look at 
> CEPH-cluster technology: reliable storage, affordable, and master in 
> scalability
>
> With 5 machines as OSD, each holding four 6TB-drives, and a couple of 
> monitors, you could get away with it

I am going to google CEPH-cluster technology to know what it is.

>
>
>
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>
> From: Eddie O'Connor [mailto:eoconno...@gmail.com]
> Sent: vrijdag 15 februari 2019 12:19
> To: Community support for Fedora users
> Cc: Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
> Subject: Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB 
> of Data
>
>
>
> I think DIY is the best route. While some corporations are willing to risk 
> having their data exposed (FB/Cambridge Analytical et al. ) and others can 
> pay the financial price for having their data seen by others, it always boils 
> down to what you want to deal with more (or less)the amount of times 
> you'll have to explain how some cloud provider screwed up?or the reliance 
> on your own backups...on your own schedule..and secured through means which 
> fall a little more under your control.
>
> Just sayin'...
>
>
>
>
>
> EGO II
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019, 4:11 AM Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming 
> 
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 5:04 PM Andy Blanchard  wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 at 08:49, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
> >  wrote:
> > > How about a budget of USD$100 per year? I am increasing my budget from
> > > USD$50 per year.
> >
> > I doubt you're going to find a reputable and reliable provider that
> > will do 50TB for less than $150 per *month*. Might be worth checkout
> > BackBlaze though as they are probably the best option right now for
> > this kind of backup, although it does depend on which of their plans
> > you'll fall under.  Another option could be rental of a VPS+storage
> > array or an EC2 type instance from one of the smaller providers, but
> > that amount of disk is still going to be a killer.
> >
> > Realistically, I think your cheapest and most reliable option is going
> > to be to buy some backup hardware and a bunch of tapes.  Come up with
> > a suitable on-site/off-site backup strategy for the media, cycle your
> > tapes, and *regularly* verify that you can restore the data from them
> > as expected.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > No matter how reliable and well funded the hosting
> > business is, you're still giving up an awful lot of control sticking
> > backups into the cloud, and even the big players can lose data from
> > time to time - if the data matters, DIY.
>
> Hi Andy,
>
> Noted above statement with thanks.
>
>
> >
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Re: Fedora 28 persistant printer issue

2019-02-15 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 2/15/19 2:11 PM, Howard Howell wrote:

If anyone can tell me all the locations where the printer is referenced
and how to remove the references, I will probably be able to bumble my
way out of this.  Or any other suggestions that might work.


If you look at the printer properties, what is the Device URI?  Maybe 
it's an MDNS discovered printer.

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Re: flatpak log entries?

2019-02-15 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 16:48:33 -0500
Garry Williams wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 4:34 PM Brian Truter  wrote:
> > It seems to me that systemd (journald) really generates more useless spam 
> > like this than it produces useful log information  
> 
> The log message quoted below was "generated" by policy kit -- not
> systemd or journald.

But it was triggered by a flatpak command in /etc/profile.d/flatpak.sh
which runs on every shell instance (like the ones in some cron jobs
I have that run every 5 minutes).

That file no longer exists on my system, and my logs are much cleaner :-).
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Fedora 28 persistant printer issue

2019-02-15 Thread Howard Howell
Hi, guys,
My problem is exasperating... I have a canon mf624cw on my
network.  It has been there for a couple of years and worked well.  when I 
started to work on my tax stuff, downloads etc. it refused to print.  I powered 
down the router and repowered it.  This usually worked because I have MANY 
systems on my home router wirelessly (about 15 at any one time), so 
occasionally it loses its little bitty mind.  Not ofter, maybe once every 4 or 
5 months.
Now given that this didn't bring the printer up, I then did a
ping and the printer responded.  Lpq shows the printer not accepting
jobs.  Brought up settings, and attempted to delete the printer.  NO
JOY.  I would unlock, authorize, delete the printer, close the
notification window, close the printer window and settings, reboot just
to make sure the settings took, and bring the system back up.  
The printer was still there.  Answered pings etc.  OK, maybe
the printer has an issue.  Powered down the printer, left it over
night, reset it and got the network up on it, confirmed I could ping
it, but still no printing.  
OK, maybe the driver or the que is messed up.  Again tried to
delte the printer while it was off.  No joy.  Went to Google, but it
was not my friend in this case.
So after three days of this, I am surrendering to the greaterwisdom. 
System is AMD FX 8300 at 2.8Ghz, 15.6GiB memory, AMD Oland,
Gnome 3.28.2 64bit, lots of disk space. Just updated by dnf.
dmesg doesen't show any problems
journalctl doesn't show my any printer stuff.
Printer shows no errors.
printer shows network and can be pinged.

What I think I need is to remove all system references to the
printer.  I have tried grep on the /etc directory and sub directories,
but no joy on locating the entries for the printer.
HEL!!
If anyone can tell me all the locations where the printer is referenced
and how to remove the references, I will probably be able to bumble my
way out of this.  Or any other suggestions that might work.
Remember I have tried the gui from settings, and the cups 631
network page but with no joy on either.  If you think I need to try any
of those again, please post step by step so I can be sure I do what you
say exactly.

Regards,
Les H

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Re: flatpak log entries?

2019-02-15 Thread Garry Williams
On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 4:34 PM Brian Truter  wrote:
> It seems to me that systemd (journald) really generates more useless spam 
> like this than it produces useful log information

The log message quoted below was "generated" by policy kit -- not
systemd or journald.

> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 7:17 AM Tom Horsley  wrote:
>> Why do I have 47 bazillion lines of this sort of stuff in my logs:
>>
>> Jan 30 19:55:13 tomh polkitd[1151]: Registered Authentication Agent for 
>> unix-process:4457:4527106 (system bus name :1.3718 [flatpak 
>> --installations], object path 
>> /org/freedesktop/PolicyKit1/AuthenticationAgent, locale en_US.UTF-8)
>> Jan 30 19:55:13 tomh polkitd[1151]: Unregistered Authentication Agent for 
>> unix-process:4457:4527106 (system bus name :1.3718, object path 
>> /org/freedesktop/PolicyKit1/AuthenticationAgent, locale en_US.UTF-8) 
>> (disconnected from bus)
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Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data

2019-02-15 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2019-02-15 at 11:26 -0800, Dave Stevens wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 15:26:12 + (UTC)
> "mr.cheng via users"  wrote:
> 
> > Did you research hard to get better job decent income ?  rather than
> > researching a low budget storage solution
> 
> not exactly a fedora issue...

+1

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Re: flatpak log entries?

2019-02-15 Thread Brian Truter
It seems to me that systemd (journald) really generates more useless spam
like this than it produces useful log information

On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 7:17 AM Tom Horsley  wrote:

> Why do I have 47 bazillion lines of this sort of stuff in my logs:
>
> Jan 30 19:55:13 tomh polkitd[1151]: Registered Authentication Agent for
> unix-process:4457:4527106 (system bus name :1.3718 [flatpak
> --installations], object path
> /org/freedesktop/PolicyKit1/AuthenticationAgent, locale en_US.UTF-8)
> Jan 30 19:55:13 tomh polkitd[1151]: Unregistered Authentication Agent for
> unix-process:4457:4527106 (system bus name :1.3718, object path
> /org/freedesktop/PolicyKit1/AuthenticationAgent, locale en_US.UTF-8)
> (disconnected from bus)
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Re: Gnome settings -> Online accounts and tor hidden services

2019-02-15 Thread John Harris
On Friday, February 15, 2019 3:37:58 PM EST Robin Lee wrote:
> On Fri, 2019-02-15 at 08:55 -0500, John Harris wrote:
> 
> > On Friday, February 15, 2019 4:13:19 AM EST Robin Lee wrote:
> > 
> > > On Thu, 2019-02-14 at 20:59 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > On 2/14/19 11:12 AM, Robin Lee wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > I wonder if there's away to configure a Nextcloud account in
> > > > > Online
> > > > > Accounts or otherwise that would connect to a Nextcloud server
> > > > > that
> > > > > resides on a tor hidden service, i.e. it would need to connect
> > > > > to
> > > > > an
> > > > > onion address.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Have you tried putting the address in to see what happens?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Yes, it says 'Cannot resolve hostname'
> > > 
> > > Cheers
> > > Robin
> > 
> > 
> > I would imagine that you would need to have Tor running, and would
> > also need 
> > to set the system proxy such that everything is proxied over Tor.
> > 
> > That is not necessary if you only want a NextCloud account to use Tor
> > (See the 
> > Network tab of its own configuration).
> 
> 
> Yes, I've got tor running at localhost:9050 on my laptop. But I don't
> want a system wide proxy setting, then everything would be running over
> tor.
> 
> I've got the 'Nextcloud desktop sync client' configured so that it
> connects to my Nextcloud server on a hidden service. As it has its own
> proxy configuration. So I got files synced. 
> 
> But what I really would like to have is Contacts and Calendar from my
> Nextcloud server connected into Evolution. That's what I'm struggling
> with
> 
> Cheers
> Robin
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The only way that I personally know how to do with is by setting a system wide 
proxy. If you could find the process GNOME uses to sync CalDAV and CardDAV, 
you could `torify` it. There is no built-in way to do this in GNOME, at least 
as far as I'm aware.

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Re: Gnome settings -> Online accounts and tor hidden services

2019-02-15 Thread Robin Lee
On Fri, 2019-02-15 at 08:55 -0500, John Harris wrote:
> On Friday, February 15, 2019 4:13:19 AM EST Robin Lee wrote:
> > On Thu, 2019-02-14 at 20:59 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> > 
> > > On 2/14/19 11:12 AM, Robin Lee wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I wonder if there's away to configure a Nextcloud account in
> > > > Online
> > > > Accounts or otherwise that would connect to a Nextcloud server
> > > > that
> > > > resides on a tor hidden service, i.e. it would need to connect
> > > > to
> > > > an
> > > > onion address.
> > > 
> > > Have you tried putting the address in to see what happens?
> > 
> > Yes, it says 'Cannot resolve hostname'
> > 
> > Cheers
> > Robin
> 
> I would imagine that you would need to have Tor running, and would
> also need 
> to set the system proxy such that everything is proxied over Tor.
> 
> That is not necessary if you only want a NextCloud account to use Tor
> (See the 
> Network tab of its own configuration).

Yes, I've got tor running at localhost:9050 on my laptop. But I don't
want a system wide proxy setting, then everything would be running over
tor.

I've got the 'Nextcloud desktop sync client' configured so that it
connects to my Nextcloud server on a hidden service. As it has its own
proxy configuration. So I got files synced. 

But what I really would like to have is Contacts and Calendar from my
Nextcloud server connected into Evolution. That's what I'm struggling
with

Cheers
Robin
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Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data

2019-02-15 Thread Dave Stevens
On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 15:26:12 + (UTC)
"mr.cheng via users"  wrote:

> Did you research hard to get better job decent income ?  rather than
> researching a low budget storage solution

not exactly a fedora issue...

d
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RE: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data

2019-02-15 Thread J.Witvliet
Just checked on HDD..
A Seagate barracuda 8TB (ST8000DM004, SATA600) is doing 214 euro’s;
Three OSD nodes with 4 drives should be enough, giving redundancy and spare 
capacity.


Met vriendelijke groet,
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From: Witvliet, J, Ing., DMO/JIVC/GIT&INFRA/ITT
Sent: vrijdag 15 februari 2019 15:32
To: Community support for Fedora users
Cc: Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
Subject: RE: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB 
of Data

It depends on several crucial points.

1)  For how long do you need 50 TB (months, a year, several years, for-ever)

2)  How quickly do you need to retrieve

3)  Reliability

4)  Sensitivity

4-> Depending on WHAT you are going to store, it might be that you are simply 
not even allowed to store it in some cloud
2-> Tape might be an option, if you can wait a day or so ☺
1-> This defines your financial break-even-point
If it is for a short while, you might look for external storage,
But when paying hundreds per month, for several years…

When you think of local (self) storage, you should definitely look at 
CEPH-cluster technology: reliable storage, affordable, and master in scalability
With 5 machines as OSD, each holding four 6TB-drives, and a couple of monitors, 
you could get away with it


Met vriendelijke groet,
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Coldenhovelaan 1 Maasland 3531RC Coldehovelaan 1, kamer B213

From: Eddie O'Connor [mailto:eoconno...@gmail.com]
Sent: vrijdag 15 februari 2019 12:19
To: Community support for Fedora users
Cc: Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
Subject: Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB 
of Data

I think DIY is the best route. While some corporations are willing to risk 
having their data exposed (FB/Cambridge Analytical et al. ) and others can pay 
the financial price for having their data seen by others, it always boils down 
to what you want to deal with more (or less)the amount of times you'll have 
to explain how some cloud provider screwed up?or the reliance on your own 
backups...on your own schedule..and secured through means which fall a little 
more under your control.
Just sayin'...


EGO II

On Fri, Feb 15, 2019, 4:11 AM Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming 
mailto:tdteoenm...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 5:04 PM Andy Blanchard 
mailto:zoc...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 at 08:49, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
> mailto:tdteoenm...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > How about a budget of USD$100 per year? I am increasing my budget from
> > USD$50 per year.
>
> I doubt you're going to find a reputable and reliable provider that
> will do 50TB for less than $150 per *month*. Might be worth checkout
> BackBlaze though as they are probably the best option right now for
> this kind of backup, although it does depend on which of their plans
> you'll fall under.  Another option could be rental of a VPS+storage
> array or an EC2 type instance from one of the smaller providers, but
> that amount of disk is still going to be a killer.
>
> Realistically, I think your cheapest and most reliable option is going
> to be to buy some backup hardware and a bunch of tapes.  Come up with
> a suitable on-site/off-site backup strategy for the media, cycle your
> tapes, and *regularly* verify that you can restore the data from them
> as expected.







> No matter how reliable and well funded the hosting
> business is, you're still giving up an awful lot of control sticking
> backups into the cloud, and even the big players can lose data from
> time to time - if the data matters, DIY.

Hi Andy,

Noted above statement with thanks.


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Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data

2019-02-15 Thread mr.cheng via users
>  super low levels of income for the past 12 years since   graduated from the 
>National University of Singapore in 2007.
Might be Off-Topic but  Since you mentioned, but still quite unbelievable to 
me;   because I also studied in Singapore in similar years,  the NUS is really 
the top-level school in Asia, can also say good ranking world widely;    can't 
believe NUS graduate unemployed 12 years?    Did you research hard to get 
better job decent income ?  rather than researching a low budget storage 
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RE: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data

2019-02-15 Thread J.Witvliet
It depends on several crucial points.

1)  For how long do you need 50 TB (months, a year, several years, for-ever)

2)  How quickly do you need to retrieve

3)  Reliability

4)  Sensitivity

4-> Depending on WHAT you are going to store, it might be that you are simply 
not even allowed to store it in some cloud
2-> Tape might be an option, if you can wait a day or so ☺
1-> This defines your financial break-even-point
If it is for a short while, you might look for external storage,
But when paying hundreds per month, for several years…

When you think of local (self) storage, you should definitely look at 
CEPH-cluster technology: reliable storage, affordable, and master in scalability
With 5 machines as OSD, each holding four 6TB-drives, and a couple of monitors, 
you could get away with it


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Cc: Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
Subject: Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB 
of Data

I think DIY is the best route. While some corporations are willing to risk 
having their data exposed (FB/Cambridge Analytical et al. ) and others can pay 
the financial price for having their data seen by others, it always boils down 
to what you want to deal with more (or less)the amount of times you'll have 
to explain how some cloud provider screwed up?or the reliance on your own 
backups...on your own schedule..and secured through means which fall a little 
more under your control.
Just sayin'...


EGO II

On Fri, Feb 15, 2019, 4:11 AM Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming 
mailto:tdteoenm...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 5:04 PM Andy Blanchard 
mailto:zoc...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 at 08:49, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
> mailto:tdteoenm...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > How about a budget of USD$100 per year? I am increasing my budget from
> > USD$50 per year.
>
> I doubt you're going to find a reputable and reliable provider that
> will do 50TB for less than $150 per *month*. Might be worth checkout
> BackBlaze though as they are probably the best option right now for
> this kind of backup, although it does depend on which of their plans
> you'll fall under.  Another option could be rental of a VPS+storage
> array or an EC2 type instance from one of the smaller providers, but
> that amount of disk is still going to be a killer.
>
> Realistically, I think your cheapest and most reliable option is going
> to be to buy some backup hardware and a bunch of tapes.  Come up with
> a suitable on-site/off-site backup strategy for the media, cycle your
> tapes, and *regularly* verify that you can restore the data from them
> as expected.







> No matter how reliable and well funded the hosting
> business is, you're still giving up an awful lot of control sticking
> backups into the cloud, and even the big players can lose data from
> time to time - if the data matters, DIY.

Hi Andy,

Noted above statement with thanks.


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Re: Gnome settings -> Online accounts and tor hidden services

2019-02-15 Thread John Harris
On Friday, February 15, 2019 4:13:19 AM EST Robin Lee wrote:
> On Thu, 2019-02-14 at 20:59 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> 
> > On 2/14/19 11:12 AM, Robin Lee wrote:
> > 
> > > I wonder if there's away to configure a Nextcloud account in Online
> > > Accounts or otherwise that would connect to a Nextcloud server that
> > > resides on a tor hidden service, i.e. it would need to connect to
> > > an
> > > onion address.
> > 
> > 
> > Have you tried putting the address in to see what happens?
> 
> 
> Yes, it says 'Cannot resolve hostname'
> 
> Cheers
> Robin

I would imagine that you would need to have Tor running, and would also need 
to set the system proxy such that everything is proxied over Tor.

That is not necessary if you only want a NextCloud account to use Tor (See the 
Network tab of its own configuration).

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Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data

2019-02-15 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
Noted with thanks.

On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 7:18 PM Eddie O'Connor  wrote:
>
> I think DIY is the best route. While some corporations are willing to risk 
> having their data exposed (FB/Cambridge Analytical et al. ) and others can 
> pay the financial price for having their data seen by others, it always boils 
> down to what you want to deal with more (or less)the amount of times 
> you'll have to explain how some cloud provider screwed up?or the reliance 
> on your own backups...on your own schedule..and secured through means which 
> fall a little more under your control.
> Just sayin'...
>
>
> EGO II
>
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019, 4:11 AM Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming 
> >
>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 5:04 PM Andy Blanchard  wrote:
>> >
>> > On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 at 08:49, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
>> >  wrote:
>> > > How about a budget of USD$100 per year? I am increasing my budget from
>> > > USD$50 per year.
>> >
>> > I doubt you're going to find a reputable and reliable provider that
>> > will do 50TB for less than $150 per *month*. Might be worth checkout
>> > BackBlaze though as they are probably the best option right now for
>> > this kind of backup, although it does depend on which of their plans
>> > you'll fall under.  Another option could be rental of a VPS+storage
>> > array or an EC2 type instance from one of the smaller providers, but
>> > that amount of disk is still going to be a killer.
>> >
>> > Realistically, I think your cheapest and most reliable option is going
>> > to be to buy some backup hardware and a bunch of tapes.  Come up with
>> > a suitable on-site/off-site backup strategy for the media, cycle your
>> > tapes, and *regularly* verify that you can restore the data from them
>> > as expected.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > No matter how reliable and well funded the hosting
>> > business is, you're still giving up an awful lot of control sticking
>> > backups into the cloud, and even the big players can lose data from
>> > time to time - if the data matters, DIY.
>>
>> Hi Andy,
>>
>> Noted above statement with thanks.
>>
>>
>> >
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Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data

2019-02-15 Thread Eddie O'Connor
I think DIY is the best route. While some corporations are willing to risk
having their data exposed (FB/Cambridge Analytical et al. ) and others can
pay the financial price for having their data seen by others, it always
boils down to what you want to deal with more (or less)the amount of
times you'll have to explain how some cloud provider screwed up?or the
reliance on your own backups...on your own schedule..and secured through
means which fall a little more under your control.
Just sayin'...


EGO II

On Fri, Feb 15, 2019, 4:11 AM Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming <
tdteoenm...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 5:04 PM Andy Blanchard  wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 at 08:49, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
> >  wrote:
> > > How about a budget of USD$100 per year? I am increasing my budget from
> > > USD$50 per year.
> >
> > I doubt you're going to find a reputable and reliable provider that
> > will do 50TB for less than $150 per *month*. Might be worth checkout
> > BackBlaze though as they are probably the best option right now for
> > this kind of backup, although it does depend on which of their plans
> > you'll fall under.  Another option could be rental of a VPS+storage
> > array or an EC2 type instance from one of the smaller providers, but
> > that amount of disk is still going to be a killer.
> >
> > Realistically, I think your cheapest and most reliable option is going
> > to be to buy some backup hardware and a bunch of tapes.  Come up with
> > a suitable on-site/off-site backup strategy for the media, cycle your
> > tapes, and *regularly* verify that you can restore the data from them
> > as expected.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > No matter how reliable and well funded the hosting
> > business is, you're still giving up an awful lot of control sticking
> > backups into the cloud, and even the big players can lose data from
> > time to time - if the data matters, DIY.
>
> Hi Andy,
>
> Noted above statement with thanks.
>
>
> >
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Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data

2019-02-15 Thread Andy Blanchard
On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 at 09:04, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
 wrote:
> Sigh...
>
> I am sorely disappointed.

You shouldn't be.  An enterpise level RAID-able 8TB HDD costs perhaps
$200 with large volume discount, so allowing for some redundancy and
hardware failures your chosen provider will need to provide somewhere
between $2,000 and $3,000 of drives, plus the NAS chassis space, just
for you.  There may be some additional savings if they're assuming
data de-duplication with other clients, but that's unquantifiable at
this point. To be a viable business they need to recover the costs of
all that, plus operating costs (rack space, power & cooling), plus
some profit over the lifetime of the drives - say 5 years.  Just
thinking it through says there's no way you're doing this in the cloud
for less than $1,000/year with any kind of cloud HDD-based approach.

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Re: Gnome settings -> Online accounts and tor hidden services

2019-02-15 Thread Robin Lee
On Thu, 2019-02-14 at 20:59 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 2/14/19 11:12 AM, Robin Lee wrote:
> > I wonder if there's away to configure a Nextcloud account in Online
> > Accounts or otherwise that would connect to a Nextcloud server that
> > resides on a tor hidden service, i.e. it would need to connect to
> > an
> > onion address.
> 
> Have you tried putting the address in to see what happens?

Yes, it says 'Cannot resolve hostname'

Cheers
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Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data

2019-02-15 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 5:04 PM Andy Blanchard  wrote:
>
> On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 at 08:49, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
>  wrote:
> > How about a budget of USD$100 per year? I am increasing my budget from
> > USD$50 per year.
>
> I doubt you're going to find a reputable and reliable provider that
> will do 50TB for less than $150 per *month*. Might be worth checkout
> BackBlaze though as they are probably the best option right now for
> this kind of backup, although it does depend on which of their plans
> you'll fall under.  Another option could be rental of a VPS+storage
> array or an EC2 type instance from one of the smaller providers, but
> that amount of disk is still going to be a killer.
>
> Realistically, I think your cheapest and most reliable option is going
> to be to buy some backup hardware and a bunch of tapes.  Come up with
> a suitable on-site/off-site backup strategy for the media, cycle your
> tapes, and *regularly* verify that you can restore the data from them
> as expected.







> No matter how reliable and well funded the hosting
> business is, you're still giving up an awful lot of control sticking
> backups into the cloud, and even the big players can lose data from
> time to time - if the data matters, DIY.

Hi Andy,

Noted above statement with thanks.


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Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data

2019-02-15 Thread Andy Blanchard
On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 at 08:49, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
 wrote:
> How about a budget of USD$100 per year? I am increasing my budget from
> USD$50 per year.

I doubt you're going to find a reputable and reliable provider that
will do 50TB for less than $150 per *month*. Might be worth checkout
BackBlaze though as they are probably the best option right now for
this kind of backup, although it does depend on which of their plans
you'll fall under.  Another option could be rental of a VPS+storage
array or an EC2 type instance from one of the smaller providers, but
that amount of disk is still going to be a killer.

Realistically, I think your cheapest and most reliable option is going
to be to buy some backup hardware and a bunch of tapes.  Come up with
a suitable on-site/off-site backup strategy for the media, cycle your
tapes, and *regularly* verify that you can restore the data from them
as expected.  No matter how reliable and well funded the hosting
business is, you're still giving up an awful lot of control sticking
backups into the cloud, and even the big players can lose data from
time to time - if the data matters, DIY.

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Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data

2019-02-15 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 4:59 PM Walter H.  wrote:
>
> On 15.02.2019 09:46, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 4:40 PM Walter H.  
> > wrote:
> >> On 15.02.2019 06:35, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Could you recommend affordable and reliable cloud storage for 50 TB of 
> >>> data?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >> you got already the answer that its unrealistic with your nealy zero budget
> > Hi Walter H,
> >
> > How about a budget of USD$100 per year? I am increasing my budget from
> > USD$50 per year.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> not even for US$ 500
> we are talking about 50 TB = 50 000 GB

Sigh...

I am sorely disappointed.

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Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data

2019-02-15 Thread Walter H.

On 15.02.2019 09:46, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:

On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 4:40 PM Walter H.  wrote:

On 15.02.2019 06:35, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:

Hi,

Could you recommend affordable and reliable cloud storage for 50 TB of data?




you got already the answer that its unrealistic with your nealy zero budget

Hi Walter H,

How about a budget of USD$100 per year? I am increasing my budget from
USD$50 per year.

Thank you.


not even for US$ 500
we are talking about 50 TB = 50 000 GB



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Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data

2019-02-15 Thread Nora Hochwimmer
that's still only around $8 USD per month, and you'd be lucky to find
5TB of storage for that price, let alone 50TB.

On 15/02/19 4:46 PM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 4:40 PM Walter H.  wrote:
>>
>> On 15.02.2019 06:35, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Could you recommend affordable and reliable cloud storage for 50 TB of data?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> you got already the answer that its unrealistic with your nealy zero budget
> 
> Hi Walter H,
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> How about a budget of USD$100 per year? I am increasing my budget from
> USD$50 per year.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
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Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data

2019-02-15 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 4:40 PM Walter H.  wrote:
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> On 15.02.2019 06:35, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Could you recommend affordable and reliable cloud storage for 50 TB of data?
> >
> >
> >
> you got already the answer that its unrealistic with your nealy zero budget

Hi Walter H,

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Thank you.

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Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data

2019-02-15 Thread Walter H.

On 15.02.2019 06:35, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:

Hi,

Could you recommend affordable and reliable cloud storage for 50 TB of data?




you got already the answer that its unrealistic with your nealy zero budget



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