Re: nedit vs geany

2020-04-26 Thread wwp
Hello Patrick,


On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 21:49:42 +0200 "Patrick Dupre"  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I cannot make a copy (ctl C) paste (ctl V) from nedit to geany.
> 
> Is it normal?

I guess it's not normal, unexpected at least. Here it works,
nedit/geany both ways and with X paste buffer as well. in CentOS 7.
Sorry, it's not Fedora but I see no valid reason why it should not work
for you.

For the record:
 nedit-5.7-1.el7.x86_64
 geany-1.31-3.el7.x86_64


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nfs: server ipaddress not responding, time out

2020-04-26 Thread Javier Perez
Hi
I had to unplug the ethernet cable from the nfs server.
After I plugged it back, the client machine is filling my journal with the
following message

nfs: server "ipaddress" not responding, time out

where ipaddress is the ip address of the nfs server.

I did a lazy unmount of all the shared directories, but I am still getting
this message.
If I try to use Thunar, it will not open up and even the panel will not
accept a click. I can  switch windows  with ALT+TAB

How can I find out whatever process is still trying to reach the nfs
subdirectories and kill it?

Last time this happened I had to reboot the system. I do not want to do it
again

Thanks

JP
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Re: nedit vs geany

2020-04-26 Thread Patrick Dupre
Thanks for the feedback.
Actually, this behavior is partially documented on the internet.

My current option is to go through gedit

nedit-5.7-6.fc30.x86_64
geany-1.36-1.fc30.x86_64
gedit-3.32.2-1.fc30.x86_64

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> Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 at 10:35 AM
> From: "wwp" 
> To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
> Subject: Re: nedit vs geany
>
> Hello Patrick,
> 
> 
> On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 21:49:42 +0200 "Patrick Dupre"  wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I cannot make a copy (ctl C) paste (ctl V) from nedit to geany.
> > 
> > Is it normal?
> 
> I guess it's not normal, unexpected at least. Here it works,
> nedit/geany both ways and with X paste buffer as well. in CentOS 7.
> Sorry, it's not Fedora but I see no valid reason why it should not work
> for you.
> 
> For the record:
>  nedit-5.7-1.el7.x86_64
>  geany-1.31-3.el7.x86_64
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
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Re: franz on Fedora?

2020-04-26 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2020-04-26 at 13:37 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> It is a way that some people/projects distribute their software.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AppImage

I hope we don't get lumbered with a lot of them.  One of the best
things about Fedora (and similar Linuxes) was the one-stop way of
keeping everything up-to-date (yum update, dnf update, commands, and
their GUI tools, etc).

Going down the Windows route of having to individually update each
application from disparate sources, or each application doing their own
check for updates (usually when you start them up, and just want to use
them without wasting any time), is something I do not want to go back
to.

And I'm sure we'd also see applications that don't quite work right on
our systems, because it tried to be too universal.
 
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Re: nfs: server ipaddress not responding, time out

2020-04-26 Thread Javier Perez
Hi again.
I sshd to the nfs server and rebooted the nfs service.
It seems to have solved the problem, at least as far as journalctl is
concerned.
Still I would like to know if there is a way to stop whomever is trying to
access the nfs server from the client machine and avoid the error flood on
journalctl.

Thanks

JP

On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 3:56 AM Javier Perez  wrote:

> Hi
> I had to unplug the ethernet cable from the nfs server.
> After I plugged it back, the client machine is filling my journal with the
> following message
>
> nfs: server "ipaddress" not responding, time out
>
> where ipaddress is the ip address of the nfs server.
>
> I did a lazy unmount of all the shared directories, but I am still getting
> this message.
> If I try to use Thunar, it will not open up and even the panel will not
> accept a click. I can  switch windows  with ALT+TAB
>
> How can I find out whatever process is still trying to reach the nfs
> subdirectories and kill it?
>
> Last time this happened I had to reboot the system. I do not want to do it
> again
>
> Thanks
>
> JP
> --
> --
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>   Javier Perez
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>    toward the day...
>   m m   Pepebuho watches
> from his high perch.
>


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Re: franz on Fedora?

2020-04-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2020-04-26 at 18:41 +0930, Tim via users wrote:
> On Sun, 2020-04-26 at 13:37 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > It is a way that some people/projects distribute their software.
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AppImage
> 
> I hope we don't get lumbered with a lot of them.  One of the best
> things about Fedora (and similar Linuxes) was the one-stop way of
> keeping everything up-to-date (yum update, dnf update, commands, and
> their GUI tools, etc).
> 
> Going down the Windows route of having to individually update each
> application from disparate sources, or each application doing their own
> check for updates (usually when you start them up, and just want to use
> them without wasting any time), is something I do not want to go back
> to.
> 
> And I'm sure we'd also see applications that don't quite work right on
> our systems, because it tried to be too universal.

Agreed. An appimage might be useful as a way to test-drive something,
but I wouldn't want to be tied to it.

poc
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Re: franz on Fedora?

2020-04-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-04-26 17:43, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Sun, 2020-04-26 at 18:41 +0930, Tim via users wrote:
>> On Sun, 2020-04-26 at 13:37 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
>>> It is a way that some people/projects distribute their software.
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AppImage
>> I hope we don't get lumbered with a lot of them.  One of the best
>> things about Fedora (and similar Linuxes) was the one-stop way of
>> keeping everything up-to-date (yum update, dnf update, commands, and
>> their GUI tools, etc).
>>
>> Going down the Windows route of having to individually update each
>> application from disparate sources, or each application doing their own
>> check for updates (usually when you start them up, and just want to use
>> them without wasting any time), is something I do not want to go back
>> to.
>>
>> And I'm sure we'd also see applications that don't quite work right on
>> our systems, because it tried to be too universal.
> Agreed. An appimage might be useful as a way to test-drive something,
> but I wouldn't want to be tied to it.

Well, I think the main target for these images may be people who use linux but 
don't manage
the system.  Not much different from the way some folks download the tar file 
of firefox and run
it from their own area.

In the case of the OP's question, there doesn't seem to be an rpm available for 
Fedora.  So, unless
one can be found this would be an alternative.




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Re: update to F32 conflicts

2020-04-26 Thread Neal Becker
I've removed a few packages (python2 related) and gotten it down to this:
Error: 
 Problem: package mutter328-libs-3.28.4-4.fc31.x86_64 requires 
libgnome-desktop-3.so.18()(64bit), but none of the providers can be installed
  - gnome-desktop3-3.34.5-1.fc31.x86_64 does not belong to a distupgrade 
repository
  - problem with installed package mutter328-libs-3.28.4-4.fc31.x86_64

I could try:
sudo dnf remove mutter328-libs
Dependencies resolved.
=
 Package   Architecture 
  Version RepositorySize
=
Removing:
 mutter328-libsx86_64   
  3.28.4-4.fc31   @updates  10 M
Removing dependent packages:
 gala  x86_64   
  3.3.0-1.fc31@updates 1.1 M
 pantheon-session-settings noarch   
  31.0-2.fc31 @updates  84 k
 switchboard-plug-a11y x86_64   
  2.2.0-1.fc31@updates 266 k
 switchboard-plug-notificationsx86_64   
  2.1.6-1.fc31@updates 267 k
 switchboard-plug-pantheon-shell   x86_64   
  2.8.3-1.fc31@updates 410 k
 wingpanel x86_64   
  2.3.1-1.fc31@updates 302 k
 wingpanel-indicator-bluetooth x86_64   
  2.1.5-1.fc31@updates 260 k
Removing unused dependencies:
 gala-libs x86_64   
  3.3.0-1.fc31@updates 116 k
 gnome-disk-utilityx86_64   
  3.34.5-1.fc31   @updates 6.2 M
 orca  noarch   
  3.34.2-1.fc31   @updates  14 M
 python3-louis noarch   
  3.10.0-2.fc31   @fedora   34 k
 python3-speechd   x86_64   
  0.9.1-2.fc31@fedora  198 k
 tumbler   x86_64   
  0.2.8-1.fc31@updates 957 k
 wingpanel-applications-menu   x86_64   
  2.5.0-1.fc31@updates 1.1 M
 wingpanel-indicator-ayatana   x86_64   
  2.0.3-9.fc31@fedora   70 k
 wingpanel-indicator-datetime  x86_64   
  2.2.2-1.fc31@updates 281 k
 wingpanel-indicator-keyboard  x86_64   
  2.2.1-1.fc31@updates 149 k
 wingpanel-indicator-network   x86_64   
  2.2.3-1.fc31@updates 326 k
 wingpanel-indicator-nightlightx86_64   
  2.0.3-1.fc31@updates 135 k
 wingpanel-indicator-notifications x86_64   
  2.1.4-1.fc31@updates 240 k
 wingpanel-indicator-power x86_64   
  2.1.5-1.fc31@updates 452 k
 wingpanel-indicator-session   x86_64   
  2.2.8-1.fc31@updates 270 k
 wingpanel-indicator-sound x86_64   
  2.1.5-1.fc31@updates 385 k
 wingpanel-libsx86_64   
  2.3.1-1.fc31@updates 108 k

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Re: update to F32 conflicts

2020-04-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-04-26 20:16, Neal Becker wrote:
> I've removed a few packages (python2 related) and gotten it down to this:
> Error: 
>  Problem: package mutter328-libs-3.28.4-4.fc31.x86_64 requires 
> libgnome-desktop-3.so.18()(64bit), but none of the providers can be installed
>   - gnome-desktop3-3.34.5-1.fc31.x86_64 does not belong to a distupgrade 
> repository
>   - problem with installed package mutter328-libs-3.28.4-4.fc31.x86_64
>
> I could try:
> sudo dnf remove mutter328-libs

Late here

It looks as if mutter328 isn't in the F32 repos.

[egreshko@meimei ~]$ uname -r
5.6.6-300.fc32.x86_64

[egreshko@meimei ~]$ dnf info mutter328
Last metadata expiration check: 0:00:10 ago on Sun 26 Apr 2020 09:46:58 PM CST.
Error: No matching Packages to list

Is there a reason you need that version or will mutter be sufficient?

And, have you added "--skip-broken" to the update command?

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Re: nfs: server ipaddress not responding, time out

2020-04-26 Thread Roger Heflin
lazyunmount leaves all processes that were accessing the nfs server
still accessing it with files and directories open.  In reality
lazyunmount has very few valid uses and quite a few invalid uses that
it does not exactly do what you think it does.  Lazyunmount removes it
from the visible mount table, but everything using it will still be
using it.   And to clear up all of those accesses you either need to
fix the nfs server, or kill all processes accessing it on the client
(typically you might as well reboot the client since generally
everything important is often using the nfs resources).  The only use
I have seen for it is to fix a client that only a small portion of
processes are using the nfs mount and they are not critical while the
ones still working are.  At best I view it as an option to buy you a
few hours so that the reboot can be schedule event.

On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 4:14 AM Javier Perez  wrote:
>
> Hi again.
> I sshd to the nfs server and rebooted the nfs service.
> It seems to have solved the problem, at least as far as journalctl is 
> concerned.
> Still I would like to know if there is a way to stop whomever is trying to 
> access the nfs server from the client machine and avoid the error flood on 
> journalctl.
>
> Thanks
>
> JP
>
> On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 3:56 AM Javier Perez  wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>> I had to unplug the ethernet cable from the nfs server.
>> After I plugged it back, the client machine is filling my journal with the 
>> following message
>>
>> nfs: server "ipaddress" not responding, time out
>>
>> where ipaddress is the ip address of the nfs server.
>>
>> I did a lazy unmount of all the shared directories, but I am still getting 
>> this message.
>> If I try to use Thunar, it will not open up and even the panel will not 
>> accept a click. I can  switch windows  with ALT+TAB
>>
>> How can I find out whatever process is still trying to reach the nfs 
>> subdirectories and kill it?
>>
>> Last time this happened I had to reboot the system. I do not want to do it 
>> again
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> JP
>> --
>> --
>>  /\_/\
>>  |O O|  pepeb...@gmail.com
>>   Javier Perez
>>    While the night runs
>>    toward the day...
>>   m m   Pepebuho watches
>> from his high perch.
>
>
>
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Re: nedit vs geany

2020-04-26 Thread wwp
Hello Patrick,


On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 10:59:02 +0200 "Patrick Dupre"  wrote:

> Thanks for the feedback.
> Actually, this behavior is partially documented on the internet.

Such as this?

https://lists.geany.org/pipermail/users/2014-June/009330.html
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1745907


> My current option is to go through gedit
> 
> nedit-5.7-6.fc30.x86_64
> geany-1.36-1.fc30.x86_64
> gedit-3.32.2-1.fc30.x86_64

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Re: nfs: server ipaddress not responding, time out

2020-04-26 Thread Javier Perez
Thanks!

On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 10:13 AM Roger Heflin  wrote:

> lazyunmount leaves all processes that were accessing the nfs server
> still accessing it with files and directories open.  In reality
> lazyunmount has very few valid uses and quite a few invalid uses that
> it does not exactly do what you think it does.  Lazyunmount removes it
> from the visible mount table, but everything using it will still be
> using it.   And to clear up all of those accesses you either need to
> fix the nfs server, or kill all processes accessing it on the client
> (typically you might as well reboot the client since generally
> everything important is often using the nfs resources).  The only use
> I have seen for it is to fix a client that only a small portion of
> processes are using the nfs mount and they are not critical while the
> ones still working are.  At best I view it as an option to buy you a
> few hours so that the reboot can be schedule event.
>
> On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 4:14 AM Javier Perez  wrote:
> >
> > Hi again.
> > I sshd to the nfs server and rebooted the nfs service.
> > It seems to have solved the problem, at least as far as journalctl is
> concerned.
> > Still I would like to know if there is a way to stop whomever is trying
> to access the nfs server from the client machine and avoid the error flood
> on journalctl.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > JP
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 3:56 AM Javier Perez  wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi
> >> I had to unplug the ethernet cable from the nfs server.
> >> After I plugged it back, the client machine is filling my journal with
> the following message
> >>
> >> nfs: server "ipaddress" not responding, time out
> >>
> >> where ipaddress is the ip address of the nfs server.
> >>
> >> I did a lazy unmount of all the shared directories, but I am still
> getting this message.
> >> If I try to use Thunar, it will not open up and even the panel will not
> accept a click. I can  switch windows  with ALT+TAB
> >>
> >> How can I find out whatever process is still trying to reach the nfs
> subdirectories and kill it?
> >>
> >> Last time this happened I had to reboot the system. I do not want to do
> it again
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> JP
> >> --
> >> --
> >>  /\_/\
> >>  |O O|  pepeb...@gmail.com
> >>   Javier Perez
> >>    While the night runs
> >>    toward the day...
> >>   m m   Pepebuho watches
> >> from his high perch.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > --
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Re: franz on Fedora?

2020-04-26 Thread Joe Zeff

On 04/26/2020 03:11 AM, Tim via users wrote:

Going down the Windows route of having to individually update each
application from disparate sources, or each application doing their own
check for updates (usually when you start them up, and just want to use
them without wasting any time), is something I do not want to go back
to.


Absolutely!  And, the best way to discourage this is by simply not using 
any packages that don't come in your distro's packaging style, in this 
case as an rpm.  For me, at least, if it's not an rpm it doesn't get 
installed.

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Re: update to F32 conflicts

2020-04-26 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 4/26/20 5:16 AM, Neal Becker wrote:

I've removed a few packages (python2 related) and gotten it down to this:
Error:
  Problem: package mutter328-libs-3.28.4-4.fc31.x86_64 requires 
libgnome-desktop-3.so.18()(64bit), but none of the providers can be installed
   - gnome-desktop3-3.34.5-1.fc31.x86_64 does not belong to a distupgrade 
repository
   - problem with installed package mutter328-libs-3.28.4-4.fc31.x86_64

I could try:
sudo dnf remove mutter328-libs
Dependencies resolved.


That's a compatibility package.  Those dependencies are in F31, but 
they've probably moved to a newer version in F32.  Have you tried adding 
"--allowerasing" to the upgrade command?

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Re: franz on Fedora?

2020-04-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-04-27 01:58, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 04/26/2020 03:11 AM, Tim via users wrote:
>> Going down the Windows route of having to individually update each
>> application from disparate sources, or each application doing their own
>> check for updates (usually when you start them up, and just want to use
>> them without wasting any time), is something I do not want to go back
>> to.
>
> Absolutely!  And, the best way to discourage this is by simply not using any 
> packages that don't come in your distro's packaging style, in this case as an 
> rpm.  For me, at least, if it's not an rpm it doesn't get installed.

Define "installed".


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Re: update to F32 conflicts

2020-04-26 Thread Neal Becker
I got the same error with --skip-broken.

Finally I just removed mutter328.  This removed the dependent packages (e.g., 
wingpanel-blah-blah), but I don't even know what they are and probably won't 
miss them. 
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dracut-install: ERROR: installing 'lz4_compress'

2020-04-26 Thread Neal Becker
Any ideas about this one?  Sounds a bit scary, but system seems to be working:

[ 8040.319826] dnf[848]: dracut-install: ERROR: installing 'lz4_compress'
[ 8040.323817] dnf[848]: dracut: FAILED:  /usr/lib/dracut/dracut-install -D 
/var/tmp/dracut.vt8aLI/initramfs --kerneldir 
/lib/modules/5.6.6-300.fc32.x86_64/ -m lz4 lz4_compress
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Re: franz on Fedora?

2020-04-26 Thread Joe Zeff

On 04/26/2020 02:47 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 2020-04-27 01:58, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 04/26/2020 03:11 AM, Tim via users wrote:

Going down the Windows route of having to individually update each
application from disparate sources, or each application doing their own
check for updates (usually when you start them up, and just want to use
them without wasting any time), is something I do not want to go back
to.


Absolutely!  And, the best way to discourage this is by simply not using any 
packages that don't come in your distro's packaging style, in this case as an 
rpm.  For me, at least, if it's not an rpm it doesn't get installed.


Define "installed".




Downloaded and used will do for now.
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Re: update to F32 conflicts

2020-04-26 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 4/26/20 1:50 PM, Neal Becker wrote:

I got the same error with --skip-broken.


If you're replying to me, I said "--allowerasing", not "--skip-broken".
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Re: update to F32 conflicts

2020-04-26 Thread Neal Becker
No, I was replying to an earlier message.  I didn't try --allowerasing, I had 
already just removed mutter328 before I saw your message.  Perhaps that would 
have worked.

Thanks,
Neal
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Re: franz on Fedora?

2020-04-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-04-27 04:54, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 04/26/2020 02:47 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 2020-04-27 01:58, Joe Zeff wrote:
>>> On 04/26/2020 03:11 AM, Tim via users wrote:
 Going down the Windows route of having to individually update each
 application from disparate sources, or each application doing their own
 check for updates (usually when you start them up, and just want to use
 them without wasting any time), is something I do not want to go back
 to.
>>>
>>> Absolutely!  And, the best way to discourage this is by simply not using 
>>> any packages that don't come in your distro's packaging style, in this case 
>>> as an rpm.  For me, at least, if it's not an rpm it doesn't get installed.
>>
>> Define "installed".
>>
>>
>
> Downloaded and used will do for now.

So, is a bash script placed in ~/bin considered "installed" in your definition?

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Re: update to F32 conflicts

2020-04-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-04-27 04:59, Neal Becker wrote:
> No, I was replying to an earlier message.  I didn't try --allowerasing, I had 
> already just removed mutter328 before I saw your message.  Perhaps that would 
> have worked.
>

Probably would have.  By erasing.  And, earlier you said you didn't want to 
erase. 

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Re: franz on Fedora?

2020-04-26 Thread Joe Zeff

On 04/26/2020 03:16 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 2020-04-27 04:54, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 04/26/2020 02:47 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 2020-04-27 01:58, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 04/26/2020 03:11 AM, Tim via users wrote:

Going down the Windows route of having to individually update each
application from disparate sources, or each application doing their own
check for updates (usually when you start them up, and just want to use
them without wasting any time), is something I do not want to go back
to.


Absolutely!  And, the best way to discourage this is by simply not using any 
packages that don't come in your distro's packaging style, in this case as an 
rpm.  For me, at least, if it's not an rpm it doesn't get installed.


Define "installed".




Downloaded and used will do for now.


So, is a bash script placed in ~/bin considered "installed" in your definition?



Not really, but it's a corner case in any event.
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Re: franz on Fedora?

2020-04-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-04-27 06:21, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 04/26/2020 03:16 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 2020-04-27 04:54, Joe Zeff wrote:
>>> On 04/26/2020 02:47 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
 On 2020-04-27 01:58, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 04/26/2020 03:11 AM, Tim via users wrote:
>> Going down the Windows route of having to individually update each
>> application from disparate sources, or each application doing their own
>> check for updates (usually when you start them up, and just want to use
>> them without wasting any time), is something I do not want to go back
>> to.
>
> Absolutely!  And, the best way to discourage this is by simply not using 
> any packages that don't come in your distro's packaging style, in this 
> case as an rpm.  For me, at least, if it's not an rpm it doesn't get 
> installed.

 Define "installed".


>>>
>>> Downloaded and used will do for now.
>>
>> So, is a bash script placed in ~/bin considered "installed" in your 
>> definition?
>>
>
> Not really, but it's a corner case in any event.

So, putting a binary file in ~/bin is equivalent.

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Tip: dhcp lease file under Fedora32

2020-04-26 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

Hi All,

Tip: by default the dhcp leases file does not exist under
Fedora32.  You have to create it firs, then it gets uses

-T

My notes:

DHCP Client leases file:

The file does not exist by default.

# New to Fedora 32.  Set up a leases file if it does not exist:
if [ -n /var/lib/dhclient/dhclient.lease]; then
   touch /var/lib/dhclient/dhclient.lease;
   # release DHCP address
   dhclient -r
   # renew DHCP address
   dhclient
fi
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What is the new sync command?

2020-04-26 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

Hi All,

I am writing several GB of data to a flash drive.
It won't dismount as it is stikll flushing.

# sync /dev/sdc1

comes back instantly.

Is there a better command to see if the flush
is finished?


Many thanks,
-T
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Re: What is the new sync command?

2020-04-26 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

On 2020-04-26 16:50, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

Hi All,

I am writing several GB of data to a flash drive.
It won't dismount as it is stikll flushing.

# sync /dev/sdc1

comes back instantly.

Is there a better command to see if the flush
is finished?


Many thanks,
-T


It did finally let me dismount

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Re: What is the new sync command?

2020-04-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 16:50:57 -0700
ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

> Is there a better command to see if the flush
> is finished?

The umount should hang till the writes are done. That's the
way it always works for me.
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Re: What is the new sync command?

2020-04-26 Thread Cameron Simpson

On 26Apr2020 20:00, Tom Horsley  wrote:

On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 16:50:57 -0700
ToddAndMargo via users wrote:


Is there a better command to see if the flush
is finished?


The umount should hang till the writes are done. That's the
way it always works for me.


Definitely. But so should the sync. Something's odd there. That said, I 
have never done sync with a device name. ToddAndMargo: was your device 
name correct? Syncing the wrong devie might well come back instantly.


Cheers,
Cameron Simpson 
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Re: What is the new sync command?

2020-04-26 Thread Roger Heflin
just "sync" should work as it will sync the whole system, and
generally the other filesystems have little or no data in them so sync
fast.

sync  syncs a file, and the data is not queued up on the
file/device /dev/sdc1 (a tiny amount is, but that will sync fast) the
data is queue on the filesystem that sits ontop /dev/sdc1.

On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 7:37 PM Cameron Simpson  wrote:
>
> On 26Apr2020 20:00, Tom Horsley  wrote:
> >On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 16:50:57 -0700
> >ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> >
> >> Is there a better command to see if the flush
> >> is finished?
> >
> >The umount should hang till the writes are done. That's the
> >way it always works for me.
>
> Definitely. But so should the sync. Something's odd there. That said, I
> have never done sync with a device name. ToddAndMargo: was your device
> name correct? Syncing the wrong devie might well come back instantly.
>
> Cheers,
> Cameron Simpson 
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Tip: qemu-kvm and network-scripts

2020-04-26 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

Hi All,

Fedora 32
Tip: DO NOT remove network-scripts as qemu-kvm needed
 network-scrips to for bridge networking

Found out the hard way

:'(

-T
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Re: Tip: qemu-kvm and network-scripts

2020-04-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-04-27 09:21, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> Fedora 32
> Tip: DO NOT remove network-scripts as qemu-kvm needed
>  network-scrips to for bridge networking 

Could you explain a bit more what you mean?

[egreshko@meimei ~]$ rpm -q network-scripts
package network-scripts is not installed

And all my qemu guests are running just fine.

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Re: Tip: qemu-kvm and network-scripts

2020-04-26 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

On 2020-04-26 18:31, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 2020-04-27 09:21, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

Fedora 32
Tip: DO NOT remove network-scripts as qemu-kvm needed
  network-scrips to for bridge networking


Could you explain a bit more what you mean?


Are you doing bridge networking?


[egreshko@meimei ~]$ rpm -q network-scripts
package network-scripts is not installed

And all my qemu guests are running just fine.


Are the file sharing with the server?

Would you attach a ifconfig?



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Re: What is the new sync command?

2020-04-26 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

On 2020-04-26 17:36, Cameron Simpson wrote:

On 26Apr2020 20:00, Tom Horsley  wrote:

On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 16:50:57 -0700
ToddAndMargo via users wrote:


Is there a better command to see if the flush
is finished?


The umount should hang till the writes are done. That's the
way it always works for me.


Definitely. But so should the sync. Something's odd there. That said, I 
have never done sync with a device name. ToddAndMargo: was your device 
name correct? Syncing the wrong devie might well come back instantly.


Cheers,
Cameron Simpson 


My bad.  As soon as I exited the krusader window inside
the stick, I could unmount

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Re: Tip: qemu-kvm and network-scripts

2020-04-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-04-27 09:34, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> On 2020-04-26 18:31, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 2020-04-27 09:21, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
>>> Fedora 32
>>> Tip: DO NOT remove network-scripts as qemu-kvm needed
>>>   network-scrips to for bridge networking
>>
>> Could you explain a bit more what you mean?
>
> Are you doing bridge networking?
>>
>> [egreshko@meimei ~]$ rpm -q network-scripts
>> package network-scripts is not installed
>>
>> And all my qemu guests are running just fine.
>
> Are the file sharing with the server?

Using what protocol?

I use both nfsv4 and sshfs

>
> Would you attach a ifconfig?

Relevant output of "ip addr show"


4: virbr0:  mtu 1500 qdisc noqueue state UP 
group default qlen 1000
    link/ether 52:54:00:9a:e8:49 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
    inet 192.168.122.1/24 brd 192.168.122.255 scope global virbr0
   valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
    inet6 2001:b030:112f:2::2/64 scope global
   valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
    inet6 fe80::5054:ff:fe9a:e849/64 scope link
   valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
5: virbr0-nic:  mtu 1500 qdisc fq_codel master virbr0 
state DOWN group default qlen 1000
    link/ether 52:54:00:9a:e8:49 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
6: vnet0:  mtu 1500 qdisc fq_codel master 
virbr0 state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000
    link/ether fe:54:00:9b:21:c1 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
    inet6 fe80::fc54:ff:fe9b:21c1/64 scope link
   valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever

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Re: Tip: qemu-kvm and network-scripts

2020-04-26 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

On 2020-04-26 18:39, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 2020-04-27 09:34, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

On 2020-04-26 18:31, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 2020-04-27 09:21, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

Fedora 32
Tip: DO NOT remove network-scripts as qemu-kvm needed
   network-scrips to for bridge networking


Could you explain a bit more what you mean?


Are you doing bridge networking?


[egreshko@meimei ~]$ rpm -q network-scripts
package network-scripts is not installed

And all my qemu guests are running just fine.


Are the file sharing with the server?


Using what protocol?



I use both nfsv4 and sshfs


I use samba to simulte Windows clients


Would you attach a ifconfig?


Relevant output of "ip addr show"


4: virbr0:  mtu 1500 qdisc noqueue state UP 
group default qlen 1000
     link/ether 52:54:00:9a:e8:49 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
     inet 192.168.122.1/24 brd 192.168.122.255 scope global virbr0
    valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
     inet6 2001:b030:112f:2::2/64 scope global
    valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
     inet6 fe80::5054:ff:fe9a:e849/64 scope link
    valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
5: virbr0-nic:  mtu 1500 qdisc fq_codel master virbr0 
state DOWN group default qlen 1000
     link/ether 52:54:00:9a:e8:49 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
6: vnet0:  mtu 1500 qdisc fq_codel master 
virbr0 state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000
     link/ether fe:54:00:9b:21:c1 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
     inet6 fe80::fc54:ff:fe9b:21c1/64 scope link
    valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever



Mine.  I have two network cards:  eno1 is internal with all my vm's and 
eno2 is external to the Internet and iptables


$ ifconfig
br0: flags=4099  mtu 1500
inet 192.168.255.10  netmask 255.255.255.0  broadcast 
192.168.255.255

inet6 fe80::fc62:7fff:fefe:1fdf  prefixlen 64  scopeid 0x20
ether fe:62:7f:fe:1f:df  txqueuelen 1000  (Ethernet)
RX packets 6341  bytes 614097 (599.7 KiB)
RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0
TX packets 2947  bytes 13172152 (12.5 MiB)
TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 0  collisions 0

eno1: flags=4099  mtu 1500
ether ac:1f:6b:62:10:06  txqueuelen 1000  (Ethernet)
RX packets 0  bytes 0 (0.0 B)
RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0
TX packets 0  bytes 0 (0.0 B)
TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 0  collisions 0
device interrupt 16  memory 0xdc30-dc32

eno2: flags=4163  mtu 1500
inet 192.168.250.135  netmask 255.255.255.0  broadcast 
192.168.250.255

inet6 fe80::ae1f:6bff:fe62:1007  prefixlen 64  scopeid 0x20
ether ac:1f:6b:62:10:07  txqueuelen 1000  (Ethernet)
RX packets 212833  bytes 233983717 (223.1 MiB)
RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0
TX packets 143676  bytes 14016214 (13.3 MiB)
TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 0  collisions 0
device memory 0xdc20-dc27

lo: flags=73  mtu 65536
inet 127.0.0.1  netmask 255.0.0.0
inet6 ::1  prefixlen 128  scopeid 0x10
loop  txqueuelen 1000  (Local Loopback)
RX packets 20262  bytes 565587199 (539.3 MiB)
RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0
TX packets 20262  bytes 565587199 (539.3 MiB)
TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 0  collisions 0

virbr0: flags=4099  mtu 1500
inet 192.168.122.1  netmask 255.255.255.0  broadcast 
192.168.122.255

ether 52:54:00:85:fa:b2  txqueuelen 1000  (Ethernet)
RX packets 0  bytes 0 (0.0 B)
RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0
TX packets 0  bytes 0 (0.0 B)
TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 0  collisions 0





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Tip: Nextcloud and Fedora 32

2020-04-26 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

Tip: if running Nextcloud, stay on Fedora 31 until
Nextcloud fixes their stuff.

-T

Fedora 32
nextcloud-18.0.4.zip

Brave Browser: http://127.0.0.1/nextcloud/index.php

This version of Nextcloud is not compatible with > PHP 7.3. You are 
currently running 7.4.5.

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Re: Tip: qemu-kvm and network-scripts

2020-04-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-04-27 10:56, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> Mine.  I have two network cards:  eno1 is internal with all my vm's and eno2 
> is external to the Internet and iptables 

Why do you use a network card for your VM's?  Did you have issues with virtual 
HW?

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Re: Tip: qemu-kvm and network-scripts

2020-04-26 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

On 2020-04-26 20:20, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 2020-04-27 10:56, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

Mine.  I have two network cards:  eno1 is internal with all my vm's and eno2 is 
external to the Internet and iptables


Why do you use a network card for your VM's?  Did you have issues with virtual 
HW?



both physical network cards are on the host machine.  the
vm's connect through qemu-kvm "Network bridge: br0" to
the host machines and then get routed to the internet
through en12, via iptables

$ cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-br0
DEVICE=br0
TYPE=Bridge
ONBOOT=yes
USERCTL=yes
DELAY=0
NM_CONTROLLED=no
BOOTPROTO=none
PREFIX=24
# IPV4_FAILURE_FATAL=yes
IPV4_FAILURE_FATAL=no
IPV6INIT=no
IPV6_AUTOCONF=no
IPV6_DEFROUTE=no
IPV6_FAILURE_FATAL=no
IPV6_PRIVACY=no
IPV6_ADDR_GEN_MODE=stable-privacy
NAME="System br0"
IPADDR=192.168.255.10
# NETMASK=255.255.255.0
NETWORK=192.168.255.0
DNS1=127.0.0.1
PROXY_METHOD=none
BROWSER_ONLY=no
AUTOCONNECT_PRIORITY=-999
# DEFROUTE=yes
DEFROUTE=no

$ cat ifcfg-eno1
TYPE=Ethernet
BOOTPROTO=none
DEFROUTE=yes
IPV4_FAILURE_FATAL=no
IPV6INIT=no
# NAME=enp6s0
NAME=eno1
UUID=be0f8dfa-9939-4f9e-a20a-cadf593452c2
DEVICE=eno1
ONBOOT=yes
# IPADDR=192.168.255.10
# Note: NETMASK is now called "PREFIX"
# PREFIX=24
# GATEWAY=192.168.255.10
DNS1=127.0.0.1
# IPV6_PEERDNS=yes
# IPV6_PEERROUTES=yes
BRIDGE=br0

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Re: Tip: qemu-kvm and network-scripts

2020-04-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-04-27 11:49, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> both physical network cards are on the host machine.  the
> vm's connect through qemu-kvm "Network bridge: br0" to
> the host machines and then get routed to the internet
> through en12, via iptables 

Yes, I know what you've done.  I just don't know why.

I have full connectivity using the virtual devices.  So, same question.  Why 
use physical HW?



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Re: What is the new sync command?

2020-04-26 Thread Cameron Simpson

On 26Apr2020 18:36, ToddAndMargo  wrote:

On 2020-04-26 17:36, Cameron Simpson wrote:

On 26Apr2020 20:00, Tom Horsley  wrote:

On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 16:50:57 -0700
ToddAndMargo via users wrote:


Is there a better command to see if the flush
is finished?


The umount should hang till the writes are done. That's the
way it always works for me.


Definitely. But so should the sync. Something's odd there. That 
said, I have never done sync with a device name. ToddAndMargo: was 
your device name correct? Syncing the wrong devie might well come 
back instantly.


My bad.  As soon as I exited the krusader window inside
the stick, I could unmount


Aha, device busy. A hand umount from the command line will complain 
about that. And lsof will often tell you what's got its hooks in, IIRC.  
Classic example for me is the stray idle shell cded into the volume.


Cheers,
Cameron Simpson 
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Re: Tip: qemu-kvm and network-scripts

2020-04-26 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

On 2020-04-26 20:53, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 2020-04-27 11:49, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

both physical network cards are on the host machine.  the
vm's connect through qemu-kvm "Network bridge: br0" to
the host machines and then get routed to the internet
through en12, via iptables


Yes, I know what you've done.  I just don't know why.

I have full connectivity using the virtual devices.  So, same question.  Why 
use physical HW?


Because it simulates actual servers I have installed.
eno2 is hooked to the internet and eno1 is hoooked
up to a [switching] hub that fans out to multiple client
workstations.  The server is also the firewall

I have used virtual LANs before to do certain things
to VM's, such as isolate them from the local network
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Re: Tip: qemu-kvm and network-scripts

2020-04-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-04-27 12:59, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> On 2020-04-26 20:53, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 2020-04-27 11:49, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
>>> both physical network cards are on the host machine.  the
>>> vm's connect through qemu-kvm "Network bridge: br0" to
>>> the host machines and then get routed to the internet
>>> through en12, via iptables
>>
>> Yes, I know what you've done.  I just don't know why.
>>
>> I have full connectivity using the virtual devices.  So, same question.  Why 
>> use physical HW?
>
> Because it simulates actual servers I have installed.
> eno2 is hooked to the internet and eno1 is hoooked
> up to a [switching] hub that fans out to multiple client
> workstations.  The server is also the firewall

What would not work if you used Virtual HW instead of actual HW?

All of my VM's can access all of the other servers on 3 different LAN segments.

>
> I have used virtual LANs before to do certain things
> to VM's, such as isolate them from the local network
>

I'm not talking VLAN's here.  I'm talking virtio.


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Re: franz on Fedora?

2020-04-26 Thread Tim via users
Tim:
>> Going down the Windows route of having to individually update each
>> application from disparate sources, or each application doing their
>> own check for updates (usually when you start them up, and just
>> want to use them without wasting any time), is something I do not
>> want to go back to.

Joe Zeff:
> Absolutely!  And, the best way to discourage this is by simply not
> using any packages that don't come in your distro's packaging style,
> in this case as an rpm.  For me, at least, if it's not an rpm it
> doesn't get installed.

The only non-RPM application I've installed outside of Fedora's RPMs,
is trying MuseScore on CentOS (which is being a pain).  I already used
it as a RPM on Fedora, but there was no RPM for CentOS.  I've installed
Google apps using yum (GoogleChrome, GoogleEarth), and while they are
external, they slot into yum, and so they update in the usual manner.

The other advantage of using our repos is, hopefully, they are vetted
(better than some other website hosting apps).  I have more faith
(perhaps misguided) about the safety of applications from the Fedora
repo, and they can be removed if they turn out to be bad.  Externally
hosted malicious software can remain available out of anyone else's
control.

And if you're concerned about licensing, patents, and other kinds of
encumbrances, the things in the Fedora repo are supposedly free from
them.

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Re: Tip: dhcp lease file under Fedora32

2020-04-26 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2020-04-26 at 16:05 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> Tip: by default the dhcp leases file does not exist under
> Fedora32.  You have to create it firs, then it gets uses

If true, I'd call that a bug.  It's a ludicrous requirement for users
to create *that* file.  DHCP is supposed to be a *fully* automatic
address assignment system.  Have you reported it to bugzilla?
 
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Re: What is the new sync command?

2020-04-26 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2020-04-26 at 18:36 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> As soon as I exited the krusader window inside the stick, I could
> unmount

That kind of thing has been an annoying bug for ages.  You have file
browsers that have right-click options allowing you to unmount
something from their directory tree.  Yet, when you try to use it, it
fails (usually because that directory is being shown in the adjacent
panel).
 
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Re: Tip: dhcp lease file under Fedora32

2020-04-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-04-27 13:43, Tim via users wrote:
> On Sun, 2020-04-26 at 16:05 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
>> Tip: by default the dhcp leases file does not exist under
>> Fedora32.  You have to create it firs, then it gets uses
> If true, I'd call that a bug.  It's a ludicrous requirement for users
> to create *that* file.  DHCP is supposed to be a *fully* automatic
> address assignment system.  Have you reported it to bugzilla?
>  

I don't think it is a bug.  It would be more about how NetworkManger handles 
things.

[root@f31k dhclient]# pwd
/var/lib/dhclient

[root@f31k dhclient]# ls
[root@f31k dhclient]# dhclient -r
Removed stale PID file
[root@f31k dhclient]# ls
dhclient.leases

No touching needed.

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