Re: Run rpm %preun script in unconfined SELinux context

2020-05-09 Thread Gordon Messmer

On 5/9/20 9:45 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

Raw Audit Messages
type=AVC msg=audit(1589082060.526:1156): avc:  denied  { signal } for  
pid=672912 comm="courierlogger" 
scontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:system_mail_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 
tcontext=system_u:system_r:unconfined_service_t:s0 tclass=process 
permissive=0 



I've filed bug reports on this in the past, but only successfully got 
the bug fixed in RHEL:


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1161812

The problem isn't that rpm scripts run in a confined domain, but that 
"courierlogger" is labelled, and transitions to that domain whenever it 
is run.  The solution is to label courier binaries as "bin_t" so they 
aren't confined (until someone provides a policy for Courier).


Maybe file another bug and refer to the one above.
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Re: Run rpm %preun script in unconfined SELinux context

2020-05-09 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/9/20 9:45 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
There is no issue using "systemctl stop" to stop the entire group of 
processes, only with using a script that attempts to signal one of 
process to gracefully shut itself down. Looking for ideas how to get 
this working. I think I need a way to run %preun scripts as unconfined, 
but I'm not sure. I haven't had much luck trying to find useful selinux 
documentation.


So why don't you just use "systemctl stop"?  That seems to be a lot 
simpler and more correct.

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logrotate - Re: What process rolls the log files Saturday night?

2020-05-09 Thread Robert Moskowitz

OK.  I found by reading the head of the new messages log.

I see its termination message...

On 5/10/20 1:29 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

actually the change occurred at 1am.

On 5/10/20 1:19 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

I see that my various log files have been rolled over at midnight.

But looking at the old and new cron, I can't see anything other than 
the hourly anacron running and not seemingly doing anything...


So what did this?  Not complaining it happened, just trying to track 
things down.


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Re: What process rolls the log files Saturday night?

2020-05-09 Thread Robert Moskowitz

actually the change occurred at 1am.

On 5/10/20 1:19 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

I see that my various log files have been rolled over at midnight.

But looking at the old and new cron, I can't see anything other than 
the hourly anacron running and not seemingly doing anything...


So what did this?  Not complaining it happened, just trying to track 
things down.


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What process rolls the log files Saturday night?

2020-05-09 Thread Robert Moskowitz

I see that my various log files have been rolled over at midnight.

But looking at the old and new cron, I can't see anything other than the 
hourly anacron running and not seemingly doing anything...


So what did this?  Not complaining it happened, just trying to track 
things down.


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Re: Run rpm %preun script in unconfined SELinux context

2020-05-09 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-10 12:45, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> My knowledge and understanding of selinux is not very deep, but I'm trying to 
> run the box in enforcing mode.
>
> A %preun script in my rpm package is failing. It's running a binary that 
> sends a signal to a running process, and SELinux blocks the signal:
>
>

Are you creating your own rpm package?

If that is the case, then the best place to ask about these kinds of issues is 
on the selinux
list.  I've gotten very good help there from folks that don't inhabit the users 
list.

seli...@lists.fedoraproject.org


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Re: FreeIPA Users cannot log in via GDM after upgrade to Fedora 32

2020-05-09 Thread Thomas Letherby
Hello,

Sorry for not replying earlier, I got caught up in work for the week.

I confirmed the HBAC rules contained gdm and gdm-password. I don't think
it's FreeIPA though as logins work under F31 just fine, but I patched up
all the servers and still no dice.

Thanks,

Thomas

On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 6:11 PM Ranbir  wrote:

> On Mon, 2020-05-04 at 18:10 -0700, Thomas Letherby wrote:
> >
> > Any suggestions of where to look next? I tried looking up the errors
> > that I could see, but I didn't see anything that fit quite what I was
> > seeing.
>
>
> In FreeIPA, make sure your HBAC rule for your desktops include the
> login services, "gdm" and "gdm-password".
>
> What you're describing sounds like what I was experiencing in Fedora a
> few releases ago. I fixed it when I realized that "gdm" was one of the
> HBAC services pre-defined in IPA and I didn't have it included in my
> list of allowed services.
>
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Run rpm %preun script in unconfined SELinux context

2020-05-09 Thread Sam Varshavchik
My knowledge and understanding of selinux is not very deep, but I'm trying  
to run the box in enforcing mode.


A %preun script in my rpm package is failing. It's running a binary that  
sends a signal to a running process, and SELinux blocks the signal:


Raw Audit Messages
type=AVC msg=audit(1589082060.526:1156): avc:  denied  { signal } for   
pid=672912 comm="courierlogger"  
scontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:system_mail_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023  
tcontext=system_u:system_r:unconfined_service_t:s0 tclass=process  
permissive=0


When the signal fails, sigkill is tried again, which is also blocked:

Raw Audit Messages
type=AVC msg=audit(1589082160.527:1172): avc:  denied  { sigkill } for   
pid=672912 comm="courierlogger"  
scontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:system_mail_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023  
tcontext=system_u:system_r:unconfined_service_t:s0 tclass=process  
permissive=0


The binary that's sending the signals:

$ ls -alZ /usr/sbin/courierlogger
-rwxr-xr-x. 1 daemon daemon system_u:object_r:courier_exec_t:s0 25296 May  9  
23:19 /usr/sbin/courierlogger


This is not my SELinux policy that labeled this binary. Apparently Fedora  
has a selinux policy that decided to show up here, but something is not  
working correctly.


That binary is attempting to sigkill this process:

unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 root 673700 673699  0  
00:14 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/courier/sbin/couriertcpd -address=0 -maxprocs=40 - 
maxperip=4 -access=/etc/courier/imapaccess.dat -nodnslookup -noidentlookup


The process is running as unconfined_t. Again, my rpm packages do not have  
any selinux configuration in them, this is all, apparently, something stock  
that came with Fedora.


As best as I can figure out what's going on here: the %preun is in an rpm  
subpackage. The main rpm package starts all the daemons from a system unit,  
and they run as unconfined. The subpackage's %preun runs a script that  
runs this binary that signals the existing process, but the %preun script  
executes in some kind of a confined state.


There is no issue using "systemctl stop" to stop the entire group of  
processes, only with using a script that attempts to signal one of process  
to gracefully shut itself down. Looking for ideas how to get this working. I  
think I need a way to run %preun scripts as unconfined, but I'm not sure. I  
haven't had much luck trying to find useful selinux documentation.


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Re: Fedora 32 MTA

2020-05-09 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-10 10:57, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>
>
> On 5/9/20 6:11 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
>> On Saturday, May 9, 2020 2:02:11 PM MST Geoffrey Leach wrote:
>>> I noticed that sendmail and mailx are not installed with the basic
>>> workstation. Is there another MTA installed?
>> I hope this is fixed in future Fedora.. This is just silly, though definitely
>> in line with many of the other changes that have been made to Fedora 
>> recently.
>>
> Having a MTA running by default eats up all sorts of valuable cpu and I/O 
> cycles on a workstation.
>
> Especially of concern on an arm install...
>

Not to mention that the majority of people really don't need to run an MTA.  
And the ones
that do, know which one they prefer and how to install and configure.


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Re: Fedora 32 MTA

2020-05-09 Thread Robert Moskowitz



On 5/9/20 6:11 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:

On Saturday, May 9, 2020 2:02:11 PM MST Geoffrey Leach wrote:

I noticed that sendmail and mailx are not installed with the basic
workstation. Is there another MTA installed?

I hope this is fixed in future Fedora.. This is just silly, though definitely
in line with many of the other changes that have been made to Fedora recently.

Having a MTA running by default eats up all sorts of valuable cpu and 
I/O cycles on a workstation.


Especially of concern on an arm install...

:)

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Re: Power Mgmt problem

2020-05-09 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/9/20 4:04 PM, Christopher Marlow wrote:

Nope that didnt fix it... My monitor still blinks on and off when
coming back to the computer after being away for a couple hours.

I just came back to the computer and the screen blinked 3 times. I had
to turn off my monitor and turn it back on and hold a key down on the
keyboard to get it to wake up on the 3rd try.


Try booting a live image and see if that has the same problem.


Someone suggested to me else where that I should do a reformat and only
use the xfce spin version to where my install is pure XFCE and not XFCE
and Gnome.


That is irrelevant.  You can only run one desktop environment at a time. 
They aren't going to conflict.  But have you tried using the Gnome 
desktop to see if it works?

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Re: How do you Dual boot with Intel RST - Optane ?

2020-05-09 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/9/20 3:38 PM, sean darcy wrote:

And it works. I can now dual boot, and Windows is a LOT faster.


Oh, the irony...
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Re: Power Mgmt problem

2020-05-09 Thread Christopher Marlow
On Sat, 2020-05-09 at 14:21 -0500, Christopher Marlow wrote:
> > 
> I might of solved my own problem I am not sure yet... I some how had
> XSCREENSAVER Power Mgmt set and Power Management set at the same
> time..
> I disabled one so we shall see if everything works out or not. 
> > ___

Nope that didnt fix it... My monitor still blinks on and off when
coming back to the computer after being away for a couple hours.

I just came back to the computer and the screen blinked 3 times. I had
to turn off my monitor and turn it back on and hold a key down on the
keyboard to get it to wake up on the 3rd try. 

Someone suggested to me else where that I should do a reformat and only
use the xfce spin version to where my install is pure XFCE and not XFCE
and Gnome. 



Thanks,
Chris
ch...@cwm030.com

Fedora 32 Workstation
With XFCE as my preferred desktop ( installed on top of gnome 3) 
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Re: Power Mgmt problem

2020-05-09 Thread Christopher Marlow
On Sat, 2020-05-09 at 12:59 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> I assumed he was replying to the post from the mailing list, but it 
> might have been a reply to his local sent copy.
> ___

I am replying from my email. I sent my questions in via email. 




Thanks,
Chris
ch...@cwm030.com

Fedora 32 Workstation
With XFCE as my preferred desktop ( installed on top of gnome 3) 
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Re: How do you Dual boot with Intel RST - Optane ?

2020-05-09 Thread sean darcy

On 5/7/20 10:49 AM, sean darcy wrote:

My new laptop has Windows 10 installed with the Intel
rapid Storage Technology  (optane) system chip. Windows is on an nvme 
drive.


FC31 is on a SATA ssd.

BIOS allows me to choose AHCI or RST. I must use AHCI to boot the FC31 
drive, and RST to boot the Windows drive. Neither will boot with the 
other.  Sigh.


1. Is there a way to get the FC31 drive to boot with RST ?

2.  Any way to have the Windows drive boot with AHCI ?

sean
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Solved. It turns out the Intel RST driver don't work well with nvme. So 
somebody has found a a way to switch from the RST driver to using AHCI.



https://support.thinkcritical.com/kb/articles/switch-windows-10-from-raid-ide-to-ahci

And it works. I can now dual boot, and Windows is a LOT faster.

sean
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Re: Fedora 32 MTA

2020-05-09 Thread Geoffrey Leach
On Sat, 9 May 2020 23:18:42 +0200
Alexander Dalloz  wrote:

> Am 09.05.2020 um 23:02 schrieb Geoffrey Leach:
> > I noticed that sendmail and mailx are not installed with the basic
> > workstation. Is there another MTA installed?  
> 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NoDefaultSendmail
> 
> Alexander

Thanks for the info. 
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Re: Fedora 32 MTA

2020-05-09 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Saturday, May 9, 2020 2:02:11 PM MST Geoffrey Leach wrote:
> I noticed that sendmail and mailx are not installed with the basic
> workstation. Is there another MTA installed?

I hope this is fixed in future Fedora.. This is just silly, though definitely 
in line with many of the other changes that have been made to Fedora recently.

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Re: Need help with a weird kernel update panic.

2020-05-09 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-09 21:01, John Mellor wrote:
> Now I need to wait for the next kernel upgrade, and see if that change fixes 
> my crash/panic issue. 

Of course you could boot to the previous kernel, remove the latest one, reboot 
again to the previous
kernel and allow the upgrade to test.

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Re: Fedora 32 MTA

2020-05-09 Thread Alexander Dalloz

Am 09.05.2020 um 23:02 schrieb Geoffrey Leach:

I noticed that sendmail and mailx are not installed with the basic
workstation. Is there another MTA installed?


https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NoDefaultSendmail

Alexander
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Fedora 32 MTA

2020-05-09 Thread Geoffrey Leach
I noticed that sendmail and mailx are not installed with the basic
workstation. Is there another MTA installed?
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Re: How do you Dual boot with Intel RST - Optane ?

2020-05-09 Thread Robert G (Doc) Savage via users
On Sat, 2020-05-09 at 09:30 -0400, sean darcy wrote:
> On 5/9/20 1:38 AM, Robert G (Doc) Savage via users wrote:
> > On Thu, 2020-05-07 at 10:49 -0400, sean darcy wrote:
> > > My new laptop has Windows 10 installed with the Intel
> > > rapid Storage Technology  (optane) system chip. Windows is on an
> > > nvme
> > > drive.
> > > 
> > > FC31 is on a SATA ssd.
> > > 
> > > BIOS allows me to choose AHCI or RST. I must use AHCI to boot the
> > > FC31
> > > drive, and RST to boot the Windows drive. Neither will boot with
> > > the
> > > other.  Sigh.
> > > 
> > > 1. Is there a way to get the FC31 drive to boot with RST ?
> > > 
> > > 2.  Any way to have the Windows drive boot with AHCI ?
> > > 
> > > sean
> > 
> > I have Intel RST "fake RAID" on my Lenovo ThinkPad P72. As
> > delivered, 
> > Windows 10 Pro was installed on two 2TB NVMe SSDs in a RAID1
> > mirror 
> > configuration. While I could have also installed a standard
> > notebook 
> > SATA SSD, I postponed that idea (see below) and broke the RAID1
> > mirror 
> > instead. The BIOS Storage setting gave me two options: RST or AHCI.
> > The 
> > BIOS is wrong. It should say RST or NVMe. SATA or AHCI are not
> > options. 
> > And boy are the two raw NVMe drives F-A-S-T 
> > 
> > I went through all the hand wringing and fear of screwing up
> > something I 
> > didn't completely understand at the time. I backed up everything I
> > could 
> > think of from Windows 10, and a went to the trouble of getting a
> > Lenovo 
> > ThinkPad Windows restoration thumb drive.
> > 
> > Happily, once I broke the RAID1 mirror, I was able to boot to a
> > Fedora 
> > live ISO on a thumb drive. It could see both /dev/nvme0 and
> > /dev/nvme1 
> > SSDs. The #0 device still contained one half of the mirrored
> > Windows 10 
> > installation. fdisk shows the following detail:
> > 
> > # fdisk -l /dev/nvme0n1
> > 
> > Disk /dev/nvme0n1: 1.88 TiB, 2048408248320 bytes, 4000797360
> > sectors
> > 
> > Disk model: SAMSUNG MZVLB2T0HMLB-000L7
> > 
> > Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
> > 
> > Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
> > 
> > I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
> > 
> > Disklabel type: gpt
> > 
> > Disk identifier: 868B8A59-AF35-48EB-AD4F-0B2966DD92F5
> > 
> > 
> > Device  StartEndSectors  Size Type
> > 
> > /dev/nvme0n1p1   2048 534527 532480  260M EFI System
> > 
> > /dev/nvme0n1p2 534528 567295  32768   16M Microsoft
> > reserved
> > 
> > /dev/nvme0n1p3 567296 3998748671 3998181376  1.9T Microsoft basic data
> > 
> > /dev/nvme0n1p4 3998748672 40007966712048000 1000M Windows
> > recovery 
> > environment
> > 
> > 
> > This frees /dev/nvme1n1 for a normal installation from a live CD
> > image. 
> > It will set up GRUB2 for a Windows + Fedora dual boot. When
> > installed, 
> > your second NVMe drive should be partitioned something like this:
> > 
> > 
> > # fdisk -l /dev/nvme1n1
> > 
> > Disk /dev/nvme1n1: 1.88 TiB, 2048408248320 bytes, 4000797360
> > sectors
> > 
> > Disk model: SAMSUNG MZVLB2T0HMLB-000L7
> > 
> > Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytesSector size
> > (logical/physical): 512 
> > bytes / 512 bytes
> > 
> > I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
> > 
> > Disklabel type: gpt
> > 
> > Disk identifier: D02F3FF2-CE20-43A2-A2E2-92053E91D817
> > 
> > 
> > Device   StartEndSectors  Size Type
> > /dev/nvme1n1p12048 411647 409600  200M EFI System
> > /dev/nvme1n1p2  411648250879920971521G Linux filesystem
> > /dev/nvme1n1p3 2508800 4000796671 3998287872  1.9T Linux LVM
> > 
> > As I indicated above, I later installed a 4TB SATA internal drive
> > in an 
> > expansion space inside the P72. I had to buy a wiring adapter to
> > connect 
> > the SATA drive to the P72's internal chassis wiring. That wiring
> > doesn't 
> > come instsalled from the factory. I got the kit from EggHead.
> > 
> > Hope this helps.
> > 
> > --Doc Savage
> > Fairview Heights, IL
> > 
> > 
> 
> Very interesting. Are you now able to boot into Windows on nvme0 from
> grub ?
> 
> sean


Of course. It's not my default, so when the GRUB2 menu appears I have
to arrow down to the 4th entry to boot into Windows.

What's really nice about this setup is that when default booted into
Fedora 32 I can mount the /dev/nvme0n1p3 Windows partition r/w.

--Doc Savage
  Fairview Heights, IL

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Re: Power Mgmt problem

2020-05-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2020-05-09 at 13:27 -0600, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 05/09/2020 12:36 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> > It did come through, but probably no one has an answer.  (It's been less 
> > than a day since you sent it.)  If you get a copy back from the mailing 
> > list, then it went through.
> 
> That's not always true.  I never get copies of my own posts because I 
> have that turned off.  I know what I sent, and have no reason to want a 
> copy.  YMMV, but that's how I work.

You can always check the archive. If it went through, the archive will
have it unless there's something seriously wrong with list management
software.

poc
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Re: Arora browser failing under F32

2020-05-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2020-05-09 at 18:43 +, Beartooth wrote:
>   I keep a drawer on a panel full of launchers for browsers. Twice 
> I've tried for Arora from there, and once from the Main Menu. All three 
> times it started, showing one tab, trying to go to fedoraproject.org, and 
> closed again without getting anywhere. 

Did you check the journal for errors?

>   I did a dnf reinstall; that completed normally, but didn't help. 

Unsurprising. A dnf reinstall is almost never the answer unless you
suspect the package itself is damaged in some way (you can check using
'rpm -V')

> The little box reporting trouble showed, but said nothing, and also 
> closed without offering either to dump any data or to send anything to 
> RedHat. 

That appears to be a Google project, marked as being "under
development". No doubt a Bugzilla report would be useful.

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Re: Power Mgmt problem

2020-05-09 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/9/20 12:27 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 05/09/2020 12:36 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:


It did come through, but probably no one has an answer.  (It's been 
less than a day since you sent it.)  If you get a copy back from the 
mailing list, then it went through.


That's not always true.  I never get copies of my own posts because I 
have that turned off.  I know what I sent, and have no reason to want a 
copy.  YMMV, but that's how I work.


Actually, what I wrote is always true, but not necessarily the inverse 
which is what you wrote.


I assumed he was replying to the post from the mailing list, but it 
might have been a reply to his local sent copy.

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Re: Killing existing connections with firewall-cmd (F31)

2020-05-09 Thread Sam Varshavchik

Thorsten Schubert writes:


To fix this, a direct rule inside the *raw* table for matching the
ipset should suffice.
I did some testing this time and came up with the following:

firewall-cmd --permanent --new-ipset=test --type=hash:ip --option=family=inet
firewall-cmd --permanent --direct --add-rule ipv4 raw PREROUTING 0 -m
set --match-set test src -j DROP
firewall-cmd --reload


Rather than a --reload, I reran it without the --permanent flag, due to  
fail2ban also dropping its own firewall rules, on the fly.


Also, a hash::net ipset will be better, giving an option to drop an entire  
subnet.




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Re: VDQ Thumb drive software

2020-05-09 Thread Fred
On Fri, 8 May 2020 16:41:49 -0400
Fred Smith  wrote:

> On Fri, May 08, 2020 at 04:23:43PM -0400, Jonathan Billings wrote:
> > On Fri, May 08, 2020 at 08:16:48PM -, Beartooth wrote:  
> > > On Thu, 07 May 2020 16:46:49 -0400, Jonathan Billings wrote:
> > >   
> > > > On May 7, 2020, at 16:42, Beartooth 
> > > > wrote:  
> > > >>I'm pretty sure the Fedora machine I want to use to put
> > > >> something onto a thumb drive doesn't have the thumb drive
> > > >> software installed to do so. But I've searched dnfdragora up
> > > >> one side and down the other without finding it. What is it
> > > >> called? Pretty please?  
> > > > 
> > > > It’d be part of the kernel if it’s a USB Mass Storage device.
> > > > You shouldn’t need to install anything.
> > > > 
> > > > Does `gnome-disks` see the device?  
> > > 
> > >   I keep forgetting to mention that I run Mate. I get 
> > > 
> > >   $ rpm -q gnome-disks
> > >   package gnome-disks is not installed  
> > 
> > Then 'dnf install gnome-disk-utility' to get it installed.
> >   
> 
> Mate also has a disks utility, named--odly enugh--"disks"
> 
> On Ubuntu it is under the Control Center, possibly the same on
> Fedora
> 

My Fedora 32, Mate desktop machine (updated from f30-f31-f32), has the 
gnome-disk-utility installed in the menu under Applications >
Accessories > Disks. I don't remember if it was included or if I
installed it myself. 
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Re: Power Mgmt problem

2020-05-09 Thread Joe Zeff

On 05/09/2020 12:36 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:


It did come through, but probably no one has an answer.  (It's been less 
than a day since you sent it.)  If you get a copy back from the mailing 
list, then it went through.


That's not always true.  I never get copies of my own posts because I 
have that turned off.  I know what I sent, and have no reason to want a 
copy.  YMMV, but that's how I work.

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Re: Why do I have 4 kernels when the install limit is 3 ?

2020-05-09 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/9/20 12:00 PM, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote:

installonly_limit=3

So then why do I have 4 kernels ?


That's a good question.  Watch what happens the next time you have a 
kernel update.



$ rpm -q kernel
kernel-5.3.7-301.fc31.x86_64
kernel-5.5.15-200.fc31.x86_64
kernel-5.6.8-200.fc31.x86_64
kernel-5.6.10-300.fc32.x86_64

Shouldn't the 5.3 kernel version be removed ?


Yes.


Or is it treating the 2 5.6 versions as one ?


No.
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Re: Power Mgmt problem

2020-05-09 Thread Christopher Marlow
On Sat, 2020-05-09 at 12:52 -0500, Christopher Marlow wrote:
> On Fri, 2020-05-08 at 16:39 -0500, Christopher Marlow wrote:
> > I am having a problem with Fedora 32.. When my screen blanks
> > off.
> > When I come back to the computer the screen will flash on for a sec
> > and
> > then go black again. But the power light is still green...
> > 
> > And the only way I can get a picture back is to turn the monitor
> > off
> > and hold a key down on the keyboard and turn the monitor back on at
> > the
> > same time
> > 
> > its getting worse and worse
> > 
> > 
> > I had the same problem in 31 right there at the end
> >  right before I upgraded to 32) -- 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 


I might of solved my own problem I am not sure yet... I some how had
XSCREENSAVER Power Mgmt set and Power Management set at the same time..
I disabled one so we shall see if everything works out or not. 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Chris
> ch...@cwm030.com
> 
> Fedora 32 Workstation
> With XFCE as my preferred desktop ( installed on top of gnome 3) 
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Re: Power Mgmt problem

2020-05-09 Thread Fred Smith
On Sat, May 09, 2020 at 12:52:53PM -0500, Christopher Marlow wrote:
> On Fri, 2020-05-08 at 16:39 -0500, Christopher Marlow wrote:
> > I am having a problem with Fedora 32.. When my screen blanks off.
> > When I come back to the computer the screen will flash on for a sec
> > and
> > then go black again. But the power light is still green...
> > 
> > And the only way I can get a picture back is to turn the monitor off
> > and hold a key down on the keyboard and turn the monitor back on at
> > the
> > same time
> > 
> > its getting worse and worse
> > 
> > 
> > I had the same problem in 31 right there at the end
> >  right before I upgraded to 32) -- 
> > 
> > 
> 
> I am just wondering if this post came through or not? I just wanted to
> check back in.

I saw it, but don't have an answer for you. sorry!


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Why do I have 4 kernels when the install limit is 3 ?

2020-05-09 Thread Sreyan Chakravarty

Hi,

Running

cat /etc/dnf/dnf.conf | grep install

gives:

installonly_limit=3

So then why do I have 4 kernels ?

$ rpm -q kernel
kernel-5.3.7-301.fc31.x86_64
kernel-5.5.15-200.fc31.x86_64
kernel-5.6.8-200.fc31.x86_64
kernel-5.6.10-300.fc32.x86_64

Shouldn't the 5.3 kernel version be removed ?

Or is it treating the 2 5.6 versions as one ?

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Arora browser failing under F32

2020-05-09 Thread Beartooth

I keep a drawer on a panel full of launchers for browsers. Twice 
I've tried for Arora from there, and once from the Main Menu. All three 
times it started, showing one tab, trying to go to fedoraproject.org, and 
closed again without getting anywhere. 

I did a dnf reinstall; that completed normally, but didn't help. 
The little box reporting trouble showed, but said nothing, and also 
closed without offering either to dump any data or to send anything to 
RedHat. 

The same happened on another F32 machine, but not on one running 
F31.
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Re: Power Mgmt problem

2020-05-09 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/8/20 2:39 PM, Christopher Marlow wrote:

I am having a problem with Fedora 32.. When my screen blanks off.
When I come back to the computer the screen will flash on for a sec and
then go black again. But the power light is still green...

And the only way I can get a picture back is to turn the monitor off
and hold a key down on the keyboard and turn the monitor back on at the
same time

its getting worse and worse


I had the same problem in 31 right there at the end
  right before I upgraded to 32) --


I would suggest trying a live boot to see if you get the same problem 
there.  It might be a hardware issue of some sort.

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Re: Power Mgmt problem

2020-05-09 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/9/20 10:52 AM, Christopher Marlow wrote:

On Fri, 2020-05-08 at 16:39 -0500, Christopher Marlow wrote:

I am having a problem with Fedora 32.. When my screen blanks off.
When I come back to the computer the screen will flash on for a sec
and
then go black again. But the power light is still green...

And the only way I can get a picture back is to turn the monitor off
and hold a key down on the keyboard and turn the monitor back on at
the
same time

its getting worse and worse


I had the same problem in 31 right there at the end
  right before I upgraded to 32) --




I am just wondering if this post came through or not? I just wanted to
check back in.


It did come through, but probably no one has an answer.  (It's been less 
than a day since you sent it.)  If you get a copy back from the mailing 
list, then it went through.

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Re: libreoffice calc - sheet deletion blocked

2020-05-09 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/9/20 10:43 AM, Max Pyziur wrote:
I have a 48 tabbed spreadsheet in xlsx format. It was originally created 
and maintained in libreoffice, occasionally opened in MS Excel.


Today, I see that I can't delete specific sheets. This seems to be only 
currently related to this sheet and no other.


I've searched through google, with no answers available that rectify 
this problem. I've opened the spreadsheet in Excel, and I can't find the 
appropriate option that controls this. Any advice would be appreciated 
here.


A secondary problem, is that whenever I paste in data, say, from a 
tab-delimited text file, each cell now has comments (username that 
inserted the data along with the entry date).


Is that maybe the change tracking that's enabled?
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Re: network manager is killing me!

2020-05-09 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 9 May 2020 11:11:57 -0700
Samuel Sieb wrote:

> Or you'll start using nm-connection-editor.

I tried it. It never tells you what it doesn't like.
The sum total of all feedback it gives is to
refuse to enable the "Apply" button.

If the ifcfg files really are destined to stick around forever,
I'm far more likely to just edit them the same way
I used to before NetworkManager :-).
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Re: network manager is killing me!

2020-05-09 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/9/20 8:12 AM, Mauricio Tavares wrote:

   I found out so far networkmanager is honoring my
etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ files in both centos8 and fedora 31:



which makes setting that up in ansible rather easy. With that said, I
would not be surprised if that is dropped before the end of the
year...


There is no plan for those config files to ever go away.
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Re: network manager is killing me!

2020-05-09 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/9/20 7:01 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:

I may eventually get used to network manager, or I
may die of old age.


Or you'll start using nm-connection-editor.
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Re: Killing existing connections with firewall-cmd (F31)

2020-05-09 Thread Thorsten Schubert
On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 5:59 PM Sam Varshavchik  wrote:
> I haven't done much testing, but this does not seem to be quite right. After
> creating and adding the ipset, iptables -n -L still shows me:
>
> Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
> target prot opt source   destination
> ACCEPT all  –  0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0ctstate
> RELATED,ESTABLISHED,DNAT
>
> and
>
> Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)
> target prot opt source   destination
> ACCEPT all  –  0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0ctstate
> RELATED,ESTABLISHED,DNAT

It should be "iptables -n -t raw -L". By default the *filter* table is
displayed which is where the connection states are taken into account,
which we wanted to avoid.

> So, if the packet is already for an established connection, looks like it
> will be accepted or forwarded right off the bat.

I mistakenly assumed that firewalld handles the dropping in the *raw*
or *mangle* table, but while the ipset seem to be matched for in those
tables by firewalld, every packet for the zone *drop* seems to be
dropped in the *filter* chain where the connection state matching
takes place (for RELATED,ESTABLISHED,DNAT). We want to drop packets
/before/ that.

To fix this, a direct rule inside the *raw* table for matching the
ipset should suffice.
I did some testing this time and came up with the following:

firewall-cmd --permanent --new-ipset=test --type=hash:ip --option=family=inet
firewall-cmd --permanent --direct --add-rule ipv4 raw PREROUTING 0 -m
set --match-set test src -j DROP
firewall-cmd --reload

Then either directly via:
ipset add test 1.2.3.4

or via firewall-cmd which survives a reboot:
firewall-cmd --permanent --ipset=test --add-entry=1.2.3.4
firewall-cmd --reload

Both variants immediately dropped my active ssh session when tested
with my own IP.
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Re: Power Mgmt problem

2020-05-09 Thread Christopher Marlow
On Fri, 2020-05-08 at 16:39 -0500, Christopher Marlow wrote:
> I am having a problem with Fedora 32.. When my screen blanks off.
> When I come back to the computer the screen will flash on for a sec
> and
> then go black again. But the power light is still green...
> 
> And the only way I can get a picture back is to turn the monitor off
> and hold a key down on the keyboard and turn the monitor back on at
> the
> same time
> 
> its getting worse and worse
> 
> 
> I had the same problem in 31 right there at the end
>  right before I upgraded to 32) -- 
> 
> 

I am just wondering if this post came through or not? I just wanted to
check back in.


Thanks,
Chris
ch...@cwm030.com

Fedora 32 Workstation
With XFCE as my preferred desktop ( installed on top of gnome 3) 
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libreoffice calc - sheet deletion blocked

2020-05-09 Thread Max Pyziur


Greetings,

I have a 48 tabbed spreadsheet in xlsx format. It was originally created 
and maintained in libreoffice, occasionally opened in MS Excel.


Today, I see that I can't delete specific sheets. This seems to be only 
currently related to this sheet and no other.


I've searched through google, with no answers available that rectify this 
problem. I've opened the spreadsheet in Excel, and I can't find the 
appropriate option that controls this. Any advice would be appreciated 
here.


A secondary problem, is that whenever I paste in data, say, from a 
tab-delimited text file, each cell now has comments (username that 
inserted the data along with the entry date).


Thank you,

Max
p...@brama.com
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Re: Killing existing connections with firewall-cmd (F31)

2020-05-09 Thread Sam Varshavchik

Thorsten Schubert writes:

On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 12:12 AM Sam Varshavchik   
wrote:

> Is there a way with firewall-cmd to /really/ block an IP address, new or
> established connections, or is manually adding an iptables rule my only
> option?

You can bypass connection tracking for dropping existing connections
by adding a rule in the *raw* or *mangle* table when using the
iptables backend. The fastest way I know of, is to add a direct rule:



A more efficient way would be to use ipsets:

firewall-cmd --permanent --zone=drop --add-source=ipset:blacklist
firewall-cmd --permanent --ipset=blacklist --add-entry=1.2.3.4
firewall-cmd --permanent --ipset=blacklist --add-entry=4.3.2.1

This should terminate any existing connection and prevent new ones.


I haven't done much testing, but this does not seem to be quite right. After  
creating and adding the ipset, iptables -n -L still shows me:


Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source   destination
ACCEPT all  –  0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0ctstate  
RELATED,ESTABLISHED,DNAT


and

Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source   destination
ACCEPT all  –  0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0ctstate  
RELATED,ESTABLISHED,DNAT


So, if the packet is already for an established connection, looks like it  
will be accepted or forwarded right off the bat.


Now, after those, existing rules, rules follow that pull in other chains,  
such as INPUT_ZONES, and FORWARD_IN_ZONES, where I see a rule referencing  
the blacklist ipset. So, this will reject new connections, for sure, but  
looks like packets for existing, established connections will still be  
forwarded. Or maybe I am misinterpreting what an ACCEPT for  
"RELATED,ESTABLISHED,DNAT" does.





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Re: network manager is killing me!

2020-05-09 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 9 May 2020 11:12:39 -0400
Mauricio Tavares wrote:

> I
> would not be surprised if that is dropped before the end of the
> year...

Yea, I figured installing fedora 32 would be a good time to
completely switch to doing things "the right way" so I tried
to set everything up with nmcli. Maybe I've got it all correct
now (and I have definitely recorded the nmcli commands I used).
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Re: network manager is killing me!

2020-05-09 Thread Mauricio Tavares
On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 10:02 AM Tom Horsley  wrote:
>
> Thought I had everything working. I had created a 2nd
> bridge for use with virtual machines I want to keep
> off my local lan (one of the VMs operating as a
> firewall with two ethernets).
>
> Then I rebooted after installing updates, and I couldn't
> talk to anything in the outside world. Aaugh!
>
> Finally discovered I had two default routes, one (the
> one it picked for everything, of course) going through
> the 2nd bridge to nowhere.
>
> Eventually found magic incantation:
>
> nmcli con modify bifrost ipv4.never-default true
>
> (bifrost being my 2nd bridge).
>
> I may eventually get used to network manager, or I
> may die of old age.

  I found out so far networkmanager is honoring my
etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ files in both centos8 and fedora 31:

[root@vmhost2 ~]# ls /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/
ifcfg-dmzbrifcfg-eno1.2  ifcfg-enp4s0f0  ifcfg-enp5s0f1  ifcfg-mgmtbr
ifcfg-eno1 ifcfg-eno1.3  ifcfg-enp4s0f1  ifcfg-kubebr
ifcfg-eno1.11  ifcfg-eno1.4  ifcfg-enp5s0f0  ifcfg-lanbr
[root@vmhost2 ~]#
[root@vmhost2 ~]# cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eno1.11
NAME=eno1.11
DEVICE=eno1.11
ONBOOT=yes
VLAN=yes
BRIDGE=kubebr
[root@vmhost2 ~]# cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-kubebr
NAME=kubebr
DEVICE=kubebr
BOOTPROTO=none
TYPE=Bridge
ONBOOT=yes
[root@vmhost2 ~]#
[root@vmhost2 ~]# cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-lanbr
NAME=lanbr
DEVICE=lanbr
BOOTPROTO=static
TYPE=Bridge
ONBOOT=yes
DEFROUTE=yes
DHCP_HOSTNAME=vhost2.example.com
IPADDR=192.168.1.10
PREFIX=24
GATEWAY=1192.168.1.1
DNS1=192.168.1.3
MTU=9014
[root@vmhost2 ~]#

which makes setting that up in ansible rather easy. With that said, I
would not be surprised if that is dropped before the end of the
year...

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Re: Need help with a weird kernel update panic.

2020-05-09 Thread Sam Varshavchik

Roger Heflin writes:


I never said that it does not get unmounted, but  unmounting does not
mean the journal got replayed.

Note the first thing ext4/xfs does on a mount/fsck is replays the
journal, the read-only mount would replay the journal, but indications
are that that fails often enough that the replay does not get done.
Also if you have /boot as a separate filesystem no ro,remount is done
so the journal is never replayed on /boot.  Overall the simplest is
just to use something without a journal.


That's really strange.

Because, like I said, in 20+ years of installing kernels on multiple  
machines, all sorts of hardware, and immediately rebooting, this never  
happened to me.




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network manager is killing me!

2020-05-09 Thread Tom Horsley
Thought I had everything working. I had created a 2nd
bridge for use with virtual machines I want to keep
off my local lan (one of the VMs operating as a
firewall with two ethernets).

Then I rebooted after installing updates, and I couldn't
talk to anything in the outside world. Aaugh!

Finally discovered I had two default routes, one (the
one it picked for everything, of course) going through
the 2nd bridge to nowhere.

Eventually found magic incantation:

nmcli con modify bifrost ipv4.never-default true

(bifrost being my 2nd bridge).

I may eventually get used to network manager, or I
may die of old age.
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Re: Need help with a weird kernel update panic.

2020-05-09 Thread Roger Heflin
I never said that it does not get unmounted, but  unmounting does not
mean the journal got replayed.

Note the first thing ext4/xfs does on a mount/fsck is replays the
journal, the read-only mount would replay the journal, but indications
are that that fails often enough that the replay does not get done.
Also if you have /boot as a separate filesystem no ro,remount is done
so the journal is never replayed on /boot.  Overall the simplest is
just to use something without a journal.

https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub/grub.html  see no 28:
grub has no code to write to the filesystem (and no journal replay).

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1569970  Note

On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 11:01 PM Sam Varshavchik  wrote:
>
> Roger Heflin writes:
>
> > What you are saying does not exactly match what I have previously
> > seen, but there is a known feature with using a journaling filesystem
> > (ext4-journal, or xfs) for /boot, if only the journal is updated and
> > if it is not yet replayed  into the non-journal then grub will not be
> > able to find the new files/updated files (grub filesystem code is
> > simple and does not process the journal so if critical updates are
> > still in the journal then those updates(changed file, new files)
> > cannot be seen).  To get this one generally has to do the update and
> > almost immediately reboot (within a few minutes though in some cases,
> > note syncing the does not replay the journal).
>
> I have used ext4 for /boot for 20+ years on Fedora, and can't say that I
> ever had this happen. And I always reboot after installing updates.
>
> > Long term the solution is to move boot to a non-journaled fs (ext
> > without a journal) or after each update umount/mount /boot(before
> > reboot)..
>
> I would be very much surprised if a regular reboot does not unmount /boot,
> prior to rebooting. I would think that all mounted filesystems except / will
> get explicitly unmounted just before a halt or a reboot.
>
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Re: How do you Dual boot with Intel RST - Optane ?

2020-05-09 Thread sean darcy

On 5/9/20 1:38 AM, Robert G (Doc) Savage via users wrote:

On Thu, 2020-05-07 at 10:49 -0400, sean darcy wrote:

My new laptop has Windows 10 installed with the Intel
rapid Storage Technology  (optane) system chip. Windows is on an nvme
drive.

FC31 is on a SATA ssd.

BIOS allows me to choose AHCI or RST. I must use AHCI to boot the FC31
drive, and RST to boot the Windows drive. Neither will boot with the
other.  Sigh.

1. Is there a way to get the FC31 drive to boot with RST ?

2.  Any way to have the Windows drive boot with AHCI ?

sean


I have Intel RST "fake RAID" on my Lenovo ThinkPad P72. As delivered, 
Windows 10 Pro was installed on two 2TB NVMe SSDs in a RAID1 mirror 
configuration. While I could have also installed a standard notebook 
SATA SSD, I postponed that idea (see below) and broke the RAID1 mirror 
instead. The BIOS Storage setting gave me two options: RST or AHCI. The 
BIOS is wrong. It should say RST or NVMe. SATA or AHCI are not options. 
And boy are the two raw NVMe drives F-A-S-T 


I went through all the hand wringing and fear of screwing up something I 
didn't completely understand at the time. I backed up everything I could 
think of from Windows 10, and a went to the trouble of getting a Lenovo 
ThinkPad Windows restoration thumb drive.


Happily, once I broke the RAID1 mirror, I was able to boot to a Fedora 
live ISO on a thumb drive. It could see both /dev/nvme0 and /dev/nvme1 
SSDs. The #0 device still contained one half of the mirrored Windows 10 
installation. fdisk shows the following detail:


# fdisk -l /dev/nvme0n1

Disk /dev/nvme0n1: 1.88 TiB, 2048408248320 bytes, 4000797360 sectors

Disk model: SAMSUNG MZVLB2T0HMLB-000L7

Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes

Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes

I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes

Disklabel type: gpt

Disk identifier: 868B8A59-AF35-48EB-AD4F-0B2966DD92F5


Device  StartEndSectors  Size Type

/dev/nvme0n1p1   2048 534527 532480  260M EFI System

/dev/nvme0n1p2 534528 567295  32768   16M Microsoft reserved

/dev/nvme0n1p3 567296 3998748671 3998181376  1.9T Microsoft basic data

/dev/nvme0n1p4 3998748672 40007966712048000 1000M Windows recovery 
environment



This frees /dev/nvme1n1 for a normal installation from a live CD image. 
It will set up GRUB2 for a Windows + Fedora dual boot. When installed, 
your second NVMe drive should be partitioned something like this:



# fdisk -l /dev/nvme1n1

Disk /dev/nvme1n1: 1.88 TiB, 2048408248320 bytes, 4000797360 sectors

Disk model: SAMSUNG MZVLB2T0HMLB-000L7

Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytesSector size (logical/physical): 512 
bytes / 512 bytes


I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes

Disklabel type: gpt

Disk identifier: D02F3FF2-CE20-43A2-A2E2-92053E91D817


Device   StartEndSectors  Size Type
/dev/nvme1n1p12048 411647 409600  200M EFI System
/dev/nvme1n1p2  411648250879920971521G Linux filesystem
/dev/nvme1n1p3 2508800 4000796671 3998287872  1.9T Linux LVM

As I indicated above, I later installed a 4TB SATA internal drive in an 
expansion space inside the P72. I had to buy a wiring adapter to connect 
the SATA drive to the P72's internal chassis wiring. That wiring doesn't 
come instsalled from the factory. I got the kit from EggHead.


Hope this helps.

--Doc Savage
Fairview Heights, IL




Very interesting. Are you now able to boot into Windows on nvme0 from grub ?

sean
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Re: Need help with a weird kernel update panic.

2020-05-09 Thread John Mellor
Ok, I think I've finally managed to remove the journal on /boot. I did 
it by rebooting into an old F30 boot media in troubleshooting mode using 
'tune2fs -O ^has_journal'.  I was unable to do this on the disk even in 
single user mode, as it always marked the /boot partition as unclean, 
and always had /proc/fd/* files open.  This machine was upgraded all the 
way back from F23 to F32, so this odd behaviour may be an artifact of 
this history.


Now I need to wait for the next kernel upgrade, and see if that change 
fixes my crash/panic issue.


Waiting and watching.  Thanks for the pointer!


On 2020-05-08 12:11 p.m., Roger Heflin wrote:

A sync will flush the writes to the journal were the data is safe.  It
will not force a replay of the journal.

Nothing except removing the journal from the ext4 filesystem will fix it.

This is not a fedora bug, this is a long standing
kernel/grub/filesystem interaction bug (all who use a journaled
filesystem have this bug).

See tune2fs and something like -O ^has_journal will turn off the
journal.  It has to be done unmounted and verify that your fstab entry
will remounted it.

Check /proc/mounts having data=XXX (probably ordered) says you have a
journal, after the umount+above tune2fs+remount the data=ordered will
be gone.

On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 10:53 AM John Mellor  wrote:

Interesting!  This machine does reboot in about 5secs and the other
machines take longer, so it makes sense.  My /boot is mounted just like
/home and / as follows:

 /dev/sda1 on /boot type ext4 (rw,relatime,seclabel)

I assume that a symple sync would flush the journal.  Its pretty easy to
do a sync;sync if updating using the CLI, but not possible when using
the GUI.  Is this a Fedora bug where the journal is not correctly
flushed on the reboot?  Should I modify that mount entry or do achattr
change to workaround the bug?


On 2020-05-08 11:11 a.m., Roger Heflin wrote:

What you are saying does not exactly match what I have previously
seen, but there is a known feature with using a journaling filesystem
(ext4-journal, or xfs) for /boot, if only the journal is updated and
if it is not yet replayed  into the non-journal then grub will not be
able to find the new files/updated files (grub filesystem code is
simple and does not process the journal so if critical updates are
still in the journal then those updates(changed file, new files)
cannot be seen).  To get this one generally has to do the update and
almost immediately reboot (within a few minutes though in some cases,
note syncing the does not replay the journal).   The fix is to boot up
with a kernel that it can still find and/or livecd and mount /boot so
that the journal gets replayed, or fsck boot so that the journal gets
replayed.

Long term the solution is to move boot to a non-journaled fs (ext
without a journal) or after each update umount/mount /boot(before
reboot)..  If /boot is not separated then you cannot umount/mount it
to get the journal to replay.  There is a second method to force a
journal replay, but reports say that one often "hangs" when /boot is
not separate so is not a reliable solution.There were some
detailed posts on this several years ago with reliable commenters
confirming the behavior.  I have also personally seen the issue a
number of times and mount /boot and/or fscking corrects it (replays
journal).

On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 8:52 AM John Mellor  wrote:

I have one completely stock workstation F32 machine where kernel updates
almost always cause a multiple-reboot panic problem.  This problem also
occurred on F31, but not on releases before that. I'm stumped and need
some help in figuring it out.

The symptoms vary in the number of reboots and the type of tertiary
error, but are otherwise pretty similar.  It does not matter whether I
use the Gnome update app or the CLI dnf method. After a number of
reboots, the upgrade succeeds and Fedora behaves nortmally again.  I
think that this only happens whenever the kernel is upgraded.

What I observe is that the machine is rebooted and on reboot, grub (I
think) gets a halt for a 32-bit relocation error.  This sequence may
happen twice.  Its an i7 with plenty of memory and an SSD boot disk, so
the 32-bit thing is confusing.  To get around this error, I powercycle
the box and get into the next stage of the problem.  One the 2nd or 3rd
reboot, I usually see a halt with an access outside of the kernel space,
although with the update this morning, I had a kernel panic instead.
Cold-booting again, and the update is installed, and the last reboot and
I'm up on the new updates.

After that, the machine behaves normally until the next kernel updates.
I assume that there is some incorrectly-asynchronous operation in grub
related to the update entry, but I can find no grub logs to dig into
this problem.  I have several other machines that do not see this
problem.  I dug around in the fedora bugs, but not knowing what to look
for, I'm basically blind.  Its a pretty serious bug,

Re: Working! - Re: user crontab

2020-05-09 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/8/20 9:41 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote:

On 08May2020 20:32, Samuel Sieb  wrote:

On 5/8/20 4:32 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote:

On 08May2020 11:15, Robert Moskowitz  wrote:

I added inserting a Date: line and switched to using sed:

local]# cat mycron
#!/bin/sh

currentDate="$(date +'%a %b %d %T %Y')"


You don't need the double quotes. The shell parser recognises the 
assignment statement _before_ breaking things on whitespace.


That's not entirely true.  It will compress whitespace in the output 
if you don't use quotes.

$(date +'%a %b %d %T %Y')
$(date +'%a  %b  %d  %T  %Y')
will end up exactly the same without the double quotes around it.


It is entirely true. The collapsing happens when you _use_ the values:


Sorry, you are correct.  I got tripped up by how I used the variable 
after setting it.

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