Re: Radeon 5700 XT: Wayland/X11 not using amdgpu

[Braden McDaniel]

On 2020-07-02 19:43, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 7/2/20 2:52 PM, Braden McDaniel wrote:
For the record, *I* didn’t add “nomodeset” to the kernel command line; 
the Fedora install did that.  Maybe you get that when installing with 
the “basic graphics” installer?


Yes.


…And it turns out that though I modified all but the rescue kernel 
command lines (using grubby) to omit the "nomodeset" argument, new 
kernels that are installed via updates still get that argument.


How do I change the template that new kernels use for their default 
arguments?


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Re: I need current network interface documentation

[ToddAndMargo via users]

On 2020-07-06 16:29, Doug H. wrote:

On Mon, Jul 6, 2020, at 4:22 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 7/6/20 3:53 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

But what I have noticed was in the man page, they state
that the users list is comma separated.   I used a colon.


That means you added another field to the line.  I can't find any
documentation indicating that's valid or that the 5th field has any
meaning.


At this point it seems to be an attempt to see if groups can be messed with in 
ways that are clearly against the man page. Not sure there is much point to 
that.



Where is your spirit of adventure?

Looking at Google, a lot of folks would like the ability
add a group to a group
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Re: I need current network interface documentation

[Doug H.]

On Mon, Jul 6, 2020, at 4:22 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 7/6/20 3:53 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> > But what I have noticed was in the man page, they state
> > that the users list is comma separated.   I used a colon.
> 
> That means you added another field to the line.  I can't find any 
> documentation indicating that's valid or that the 5th field has any 
> meaning.

At this point it seems to be an attempt to see if groups can be messed with in 
ways that are clearly against the man page. Not sure there is much point to 
that.

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Re: I need current network interface documentation

[ToddAndMargo via users]

On 2020-07-06 16:22, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 7/6/20 3:53 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

But what I have noticed was in the man page, they state
that the users list is comma separated.   I used a colon.


That means you added another field to the line.  I can't find any 
documentation indicating that's valid or that the 5th field has any 
meaning.


Me neither.  I think I may have tripped across
an undocumented feature.
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Re: I need current network interface documentation

[Samuel Sieb]

On 7/6/20 3:53 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

But what I have noticed was in the man page, they state
that the users list is comma separated.   I used a colon.


That means you added another field to the line.  I can't find any 
documentation indicating that's valid or that the 5th field has any meaning.

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Re: I need current network interface documentation

[ToddAndMargo via users]

On 2020-07-06 06:00, Tom H wrote:

On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 7:48 AM ToddAndMargo via users
 wrote:

On 2020-07-05 21:59, Tom H wrote:

On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 1:22 AM ToddAndMargo via users
 wrote:


libvirt:x:977:root:@users


Are you sure

1) That you can use netgroup notation when you're (presumably) not
using nis/nisplus/ldap?

2) That you can nest a netgroup in a group? I've only seen/used
netgroups used in "/etc/group" on a separate line, eg "+@netusers",
to include the "netusers" netgroup using "nss_compat".


It turn off the pol kit prompt


Are you that it's not something else that's "turning off" polkit?

I checked the "group(5)" man pages on my NetBSD and OpenBSD systems,
on my Linux laptop, and in Solaris 8 man-page PDF. The first three
describe the fourth field as a list of members and the members are
users. Solaris even calls the fourth field "user-list". None of them
even imply that a group name can be added to the list, with or without
prepending "@".

I created a group "todd", added myself to it, added "@todd" to the
"root" group in "/etc/{group,gshadow}" (I couldn't find an executable
that would allow me to add a group to a group), and ran "grpck -r":

# grpck -r
group root: no user @todd
delete member '@todd'? No
shadow group root: no user @todd
delete member '@todd'? No
grpck: no changes
root rebekah /root
#

"grpck" expects usernames as group members.


Hi Tom,

The plot thickens!   :-)

Taking in and taking out @users was repeatable.

And I used the universal configuration tool, know as "vi".

But what I have noticed was in the man page, they state
that the users list is comma separated.   I used a colon.

Try it with vi and a colon

Also, it would help if you showed me your line in /etc/groups

-T



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Re: Bootable USB and a Windows ISO-file

[ToddAndMargo via users]

On 2020-07-06 05:37, Richard Shaw wrote:
On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 2:01 PM Robin Lee > wrote:


I'm trying to do a very simple task on my Fedora 32 desktop but somehow
I can't make it happen.

I've downloaded a Windows installer ISO-file from microsoft.com
 that I
put on a USB-stick and tried to install Windows on physical machine,
but it won't boot from the USB. It shows up in the BIOS boot menu, but
it won't boot.


I've used Fedora Media Writer to write a windows iso to USB stick 
without issue.


If that doesn't work then you may have some other issue.

Thanks,
Richard


Uh...   Not lately.  Use can burn their ISO to a DVD,
but you have to use WoeUSB in Linux or Rufis in Windows
to burn to a Flash drive.   The ISO is missing the boot
components in the right locations to boot.  M$ doe not
play well with the other kiddies in the sand box.




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Re: Bootable USB and a Windows ISO-file

[ToddAndMargo via users]

On 2020-07-06 06:07, Robin Lee wrote:

On Sun, 2020-07-05 at 15:15 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:


Ha!  I finally get to answer one instead of always asking
all the questions.

:-)


Install WoeUSB (as root):



Thanks Todd, with WoeUSB everything just worked.

Cheers
Robin


Hi Robin,

Awesome!

One thing you are going to run across if you
are using qemu-kvm with that flash drive you
just created


libvirt.libvirtError: internal error: vendor cannot be 0
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1850091

They will fix shortly!

:-)

-T
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Re: where does virsh-manage keep its settings?

[ToddAndMargo via users]

On 2020-07-06 06:32, Jonathan Billings wrote:
On Jul 6, 2020, at 00:33, ToddAndMargo via users 
 wrote:

my virt-manager starts as a user now, but the VM's
I configured are gone (back as root)


When you run virt-manager as root, which connection are you using?  Is 
it “qemu:///system” or “qemu:///session”?


Hi Jonathan,

I am not sure what you are asking.

This is my launcher run line:

$ beesu "xhost +si:localuser:root; virt-manager"

When not using virt-manager to conenct to a VM, I use

$ remote-viewer spice://127.0.0.1:

 is the port for a particular VM.


This is my notes on where things are stored:

XML files:
/etc/libvirt/qemu/

"img" files:
/var/lib/libvirt/images
I store mine in /home/kvm

Log files:
~/.cache/virt-manager/virt-manager.log


Does that help?

-T

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Re: where does virsh-manage keep its settings?

[Jonathan Billings]

On Jul 6, 2020, at 00:33, ToddAndMargo via users 
 wrote:
> my virt-manager starts as a user now, but the VM's
> I configured are gone (back as root)

When you run virt-manager as root, which connection are you using?  Is it 
“qemu:///system” or “qemu:///session”?

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Re: Bootable USB and a Windows ISO-file

[Robin Lee]

On Mon, 2020-07-06 at 07:37 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 2:01 PM Robin Lee 
> wrote:
> > I'm trying to do a very simple task on my Fedora 32 desktop but
> > somehow
> > I can't make it happen.
> > 
> > I've downloaded a Windows installer ISO-file from microsoft.com
> > that I
> > put on a USB-stick and tried to install Windows on physical
> > machine,
> > but it won't boot from the USB. It shows up in the BIOS boot menu,
> > but
> > it won't boot. 
> 
> I've used Fedora Media Writer to write a windows iso to USB stick
> without issue. 

That's not my experience. Perhaps it has lost that ability due to some
bug. With a fully updated Fedora 23 and the latest Windows 10 installer
iso both Disk Image Writer and Brasero failed and WoeUSB succeeded in
creating a bootable Windows usb.

Cheers
Robin
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Re: Bootable USB and a Windows ISO-file

[Robin Lee]

On Sun, 2020-07-05 at 15:15 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> 
> Ha!  I finally get to answer one instead of always asking
> all the questions.
> 
> :-)
> 
> 
> Install WoeUSB (as root):


Thanks Todd, with WoeUSB everything just worked.

Cheers
Robin
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Re: I need current network interface documentation

[Tom H]

On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 7:48 AM ToddAndMargo via users
 wrote:
> On 2020-07-05 21:59, Tom H wrote:
>> On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 1:22 AM ToddAndMargo via users
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> libvirt:x:977:root:@users
>>
>> Are you sure
>>
>> 1) That you can use netgroup notation when you're (presumably) not
>> using nis/nisplus/ldap?
>>
>> 2) That you can nest a netgroup in a group? I've only seen/used
>> netgroups used in "/etc/group" on a separate line, eg "+@netusers",
>> to include the "netusers" netgroup using "nss_compat".
>
> It turn off the pol kit prompt

Are you that it's not something else that's "turning off" polkit?

I checked the "group(5)" man pages on my NetBSD and OpenBSD systems,
on my Linux laptop, and in Solaris 8 man-page PDF. The first three
describe the fourth field as a list of members and the members are
users. Solaris even calls the fourth field "user-list". None of them
even imply that a group name can be added to the list, with or without
prepending "@".

I created a group "todd", added myself to it, added "@todd" to the
"root" group in "/etc/{group,gshadow}" (I couldn't find an executable
that would allow me to add a group to a group), and ran "grpck -r":

# grpck -r
group root: no user @todd
delete member '@todd'? No
shadow group root: no user @todd
delete member '@todd'? No
grpck: no changes
root rebekah /root
#

"grpck" expects usernames as group members.
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Re: Bootable USB and a Windows ISO-file

[Richard Shaw]

On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 2:01 PM Robin Lee  wrote:

> I'm trying to do a very simple task on my Fedora 32 desktop but somehow
> I can't make it happen.
>
> I've downloaded a Windows installer ISO-file from microsoft.com that I
> put on a USB-stick and tried to install Windows on physical machine,
> but it won't boot from the USB. It shows up in the BIOS boot menu, but
> it won't boot.
>

I've used Fedora Media Writer to write a windows iso to USB stick without
issue.

If that doesn't work then you may have some other issue.

Thanks,
Richard
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Re: I need current network interface documentation

[Ed Greshko]

On 2020-07-06 19:46, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
>
> I would love to know the answer to the mystery.
>
> I do work a lot in the Windows world.  I get a lot of
> "it works for me" from tech support, typically if I
> am the first on reporting a problem.  It is very
> annoying.  I like to figure out what is causing what.
> I like solving these kinds of puzzle

Then create a VM and work with that.

I'm not going to spend any more time on it.

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Re: I need current network interface documentation

[ToddAndMargo via users]

On 2020-07-06 04:31, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 2020-07-06 19:23, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

On 2020-07-06 04:17, Jon Ingason wrote:

Den 2020-07-06 kl. 11:23, skrev ToddAndMargo via users:

On 2020-07-05 23:31, Jon Ingason wrote:

Den 2020-07-06 kl. 07:49, skrev ToddAndMargo via users:

On 2020-07-05 21:47, Tom H wrote:

On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 12:59 AM ToddAndMargo via users
 wrote:


$ grep -i users group
users:x:100:todd
libvirt:x:977:root:users


Are you sure that you can nest a group within another in "/etc/group"?


I goofed the syntax.   You use @ in front of groups

libvirt:x:977:root:@users


Why not read the man page?

$ man 5 group

DESCRIPTION
  The  /etc/group file is a text file that defines the groups on
  the system.  There is one entry per line, with the following
  format:

  group_name:password:GID:user_list

  The fields are as follows:

...

  user_list   a  list  of  the  usernames that are members of this
  group, separated by commas.


So the line for libvirt in /etc/group should be:

libvirt:x:977:todd,user1,user2,...



Several of us did, including me.

Did you find @group in the man page anywhere?  I only
remembered it off the top of my head.


No, there don't exist any variable like "@group" in /etc/group. The data
in /etc/group lines where format is:

group_name:password:GID:user_list

It has been in over 40 years in Unix and ever since Linux where born.

Regards

Jon Ingason


Yet it somehow got rid of pol kit prompt with virt-manager



I hate to repeat myself.  But, not for me.  So, I think you've done more than
just that.

Anyway, this is a dead horse.




I would love to know the answer to the mystery.

I do work a lot in the Windows world.  I get a lot of
"it works for me" from tech support, typically if I
am the first on reporting a problem.  It is very
annoying.  I like to figure out what is causing what.
I like solving these kinds of puzzles.



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Re: I need current network interface documentation

[Ed Greshko]

On 2020-07-06 19:23, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> On 2020-07-06 04:17, Jon Ingason wrote:
>> Den 2020-07-06 kl. 11:23, skrev ToddAndMargo via users:
>>> On 2020-07-05 23:31, Jon Ingason wrote:
 Den 2020-07-06 kl. 07:49, skrev ToddAndMargo via users:
> On 2020-07-05 21:47, Tom H wrote:
>> On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 12:59 AM ToddAndMargo via users
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> $ grep -i users group
>>> users:x:100:todd
>>> libvirt:x:977:root:users
>>
>> Are you sure that you can nest a group within another in "/etc/group"?
>
> I goofed the syntax.   You use @ in front of groups
>
> libvirt:x:977:root:@users

 Why not read the man page?

 $ man 5 group

 DESCRIPTION
  The  /etc/group file is a text file that defines the groups on
  the system.  There is one entry per line, with the following
  format:

  group_name:password:GID:user_list

  The fields are as follows:

 ...

  user_list   a  list  of  the  usernames that are members of this
  group, separated by commas.


 So the line for libvirt in /etc/group should be:

 libvirt:x:977:todd,user1,user2,...
>>>
>>>
>>> Several of us did, including me.
>>>
>>> Did you find @group in the man page anywhere?  I only
>>> remembered it off the top of my head.
>>
>> No, there don't exist any variable like "@group" in /etc/group. The data
>> in /etc/group lines where format is:
>>
>> group_name:password:GID:user_list
>>
>> It has been in over 40 years in Unix and ever since Linux where born.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Jon Ingason
>
> Yet it somehow got rid of pol kit prompt with virt-manager
>

I hate to repeat myself.  But, not for me.  So, I think you've done more than
just that.

Anyway, this is a dead horse.


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Re: I need current network interface documentation

[ToddAndMargo via users]

On 2020-07-06 04:17, Jon Ingason wrote:

Den 2020-07-06 kl. 11:23, skrev ToddAndMargo via users:

On 2020-07-05 23:31, Jon Ingason wrote:

Den 2020-07-06 kl. 07:49, skrev ToddAndMargo via users:

On 2020-07-05 21:47, Tom H wrote:

On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 12:59 AM ToddAndMargo via users
 wrote:


$ grep -i users group
users:x:100:todd
libvirt:x:977:root:users


Are you sure that you can nest a group within another in "/etc/group"?


I goofed the syntax.   You use @ in front of groups

libvirt:x:977:root:@users


Why not read the man page?

$ man 5 group

DESCRIPTION
     The  /etc/group file is a text file that defines the groups on
     the system.  There is one entry per line, with the following
     format:

     group_name:password:GID:user_list

     The fields are as follows:

...

     user_list   a  list  of  the  usernames that are members of this
     group, separated by commas.


So the line for libvirt in /etc/group should be:

libvirt:x:977:todd,user1,user2,...



Several of us did, including me.

Did you find @group in the man page anywhere?  I only
remembered it off the top of my head.


No, there don't exist any variable like "@group" in /etc/group. The data
in /etc/group lines where format is:

group_name:password:GID:user_list

It has been in over 40 years in Unix and ever since Linux where born.

Regards

Jon Ingason


Yet it somehow got rid of pol kit prompt with virt-manager



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Re: I need current network interface documentation

[Jon Ingason]

Den 2020-07-06 kl. 11:23, skrev ToddAndMargo via users:
> On 2020-07-05 23:31, Jon Ingason wrote:
>> Den 2020-07-06 kl. 07:49, skrev ToddAndMargo via users:
>>> On 2020-07-05 21:47, Tom H wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 12:59 AM ToddAndMargo via users
  wrote:
>
> $ grep -i users group
> users:x:100:todd
> libvirt:x:977:root:users

 Are you sure that you can nest a group within another in "/etc/group"?
>>>
>>> I goofed the syntax.   You use @ in front of groups
>>>
>>> libvirt:x:977:root:@users
>>
>> Why not read the man page?
>>
>> $ man 5 group
>>
>> DESCRIPTION
>>     The  /etc/group file is a text file that defines the groups on
>>     the system.  There is one entry per line, with the following
>>     format:
>>
>>     group_name:password:GID:user_list
>>
>>     The fields are as follows:
>>
>> ...
>>
>>     user_list   a  list  of  the  usernames that are members of this
>>     group, separated by commas.
>>
>>
>> So the line for libvirt in /etc/group should be:
>>
>> libvirt:x:977:todd,user1,user2,...
> 
> 
> Several of us did, including me.
> 
> Did you find @group in the man page anywhere?  I only
> remembered it off the top of my head.

No, there don't exist any variable like "@group" in /etc/group. The data
in /etc/group lines where format is:

group_name:password:GID:user_list

It has been in over 40 years in Unix and ever since Linux where born.

Regards

Jon Ingason
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Re: I need current network interface documentation

[ToddAndMargo via users]

On 2020-07-05 23:31, Jon Ingason wrote:

Den 2020-07-06 kl. 07:49, skrev ToddAndMargo via users:

On 2020-07-05 21:47, Tom H wrote:

On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 12:59 AM ToddAndMargo via users
 wrote:


$ grep -i users group
users:x:100:todd
libvirt:x:977:root:users


Are you sure that you can nest a group within another in "/etc/group"?


I goofed the syntax.   You use @ in front of groups

libvirt:x:977:root:@users


Why not read the man page?

$ man 5 group

DESCRIPTION
The  /etc/group file is a text file that defines the groups on
the system.  There is one entry per line, with the following
format:

group_name:password:GID:user_list

The fields are as follows:

...

user_list   a  list  of  the  usernames that are members of this
group, separated by commas.


So the line for libvirt in /etc/group should be:

libvirt:x:977:todd,user1,user2,...



Several of us did, including me.

Did you find @group in the man page anywhere?  I only
remembered it off the top of my head.
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Re: Qt_5_PRIVATE_API?

[ToddAndMargo via users]

On 2020-07-05 14:49, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

Hi All,

Anyone know who provides the 64 bit version of
"libQt5Gui.so.5: Qt_5_PRIVATE_API"?


$ /opt/master-pdf-editor-5/masterpdfeditor5

/opt/master-pdf-editor-5/masterpdfeditor5: /lib64/libQt5Gui.so.5: 
version `Qt_5_PRIVATE_API' not found (required by 
/opt/master-pdf-editor-5/masterpdfeditor5)




# dnf whatprovides libQt5Gui.so.5
Last metadata expiration check: 1:31:22 ago on Sun 05 Jul 2020 01:15:43 
PM PDT.

qt5-qtbase-gui-5.13.2-4.fc32.i686 : Qt5 GUI-related libraries
Repo    : fedora
Matched from:
Provide    : libQt5Gui.so.5

qt5-qtbase-gui-5.14.2-5.fc32.i686 : Qt5 GUI-related libraries
Repo    : updates
Matched from:
Provide    : libQt5Gui.so.5

But only the 385 version.  I need the 64 bit version


Many thanks,
-T


Followup:

Code Industry Ltd (MAster PDf Editor) tech support
got back to me.   They had changed their launcher
from

/opt/master-pdf-editor-5/masterpdfeditor5

to

/opt/master-pdf-editor-5/masterpdfeditor5.sh

And that fixed the problem

#!/bin/sh
 appname=`basename $0 | sed s,\.sh$,,`
 libpath=$(cd "$(dirname "$0")"; pwd)
 dirname=`dirname $0`
 tmp="${dirname#?}"

 if [ "${dirname%$tmp}" != "/" ]; then
 dirname=$PWD/$dirname
 fi

LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$libpath/lib:$libpath/platforms:$libpath/printsupport:$libpath/iconengines:$libpath/imageformats:$libpath/platformthemes:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH
 export LD_LIBRARY_PATH

 $dirname/$appname "$@"


Thank you all for the help!

-T

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