Re: system loses HDMI sound device
On 10/28/20 5:46 PM, Eyal Lebedinsky wrote: I suspect X, me not being an expert, because this is sound over HDMI which X manages. X has absolutely nothing to do with sound. That's between the kernel and alsa and pulseaudio. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: system loses HDMI sound device
On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 5:46 PM Eyal Lebedinsky wrote: > On 29/10/2020 05.07, stan via users wrote: > > On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 13:19:59 +1100 > > Eyal Lebedinsky wrote: > > > >> This is up-to-date f32 amd64. > >> > >> From time to time I find that I do not have sound, and then > >> pavucontrol shows no configuration is available. Sound is via HDMI to > >> the monitor (TV). The internal sound device is not used. > >> > >> So far the only way out I found is to log out/in, but this is not > >> ideal. Is there a way to make the system (I suspect it is X) see the > >> sound device and enable it? Maybe with a udev command? > > [snip] > >> /sys/devices/virtual/sound/seq > >> /sys/devices/virtual/sound/timer > >> > >> When I have no sound I am missing the last two devices. > >> > >> In case it is related, there is also a KVM instance running on this > >> machine. > >> > > > > Does it fix it if you run > > pulseaudio --start > > That should re-initialize pulseaudio, picking up available devices. If > > the problem is some kind of race condition between X and pulseaudio as > > it seems to be because it is intermittent, this should remedy it. > > I am rather sure I tried this to no avail. Next time this happens I will > keep > a detailed record of all the actions I take and the results. > > > I don't think this is directly caused by X, as X should not be creating > > virtual sound devices. But, I'm no expert. > > I suspect X, me not being an expert, because this is sound over HDMI which > X manages. > > Regards, > > i had this too, a reinstall of F32 fixed it. drove me crazy as i could not find the failure... -- > Eyal Lebedinsky (fed...@eyal.emu.id.au) > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: system loses HDMI sound device
On 29/10/2020 05.07, stan via users wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 13:19:59 +1100 Eyal Lebedinsky wrote: This is up-to-date f32 amd64. From time to time I find that I do not have sound, and then pavucontrol shows no configuration is available. Sound is via HDMI to the monitor (TV). The internal sound device is not used. So far the only way out I found is to log out/in, but this is not ideal. Is there a way to make the system (I suspect it is X) see the sound device and enable it? Maybe with a udev command? [snip] /sys/devices/virtual/sound/seq /sys/devices/virtual/sound/timer When I have no sound I am missing the last two devices. In case it is related, there is also a KVM instance running on this machine. Does it fix it if you run pulseaudio --start That should re-initialize pulseaudio, picking up available devices. If the problem is some kind of race condition between X and pulseaudio as it seems to be because it is intermittent, this should remedy it. I am rather sure I tried this to no avail. Next time this happens I will keep a detailed record of all the actions I take and the results. I don't think this is directly caused by X, as X should not be creating virtual sound devices. But, I'm no expert. I suspect X, me not being an expert, because this is sound over HDMI which X manages. Regards, -- Eyal Lebedinsky (fed...@eyal.emu.id.au) ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: X Org Server is abandonware
Jonathan Billings writes: On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 03:33:58PM +1030, Tim via users wrote: > > On Mon, 2020-10-26 at 08:46 -0300, George N. White III wrote: > > One of the motivations for Wayland was that the X.Org was becoming > > unmaintainable and suffered from design choices that are no longer > > relevant. > > Is it really unmaintainable, or is it that programmers just cannot be > arsed to learn how to maintain someone else's code? > > And how does one person determine that some features are no-longer > needed? It's quite clear that in several years of Wayland being around > that various features needed by people using X have yet to be > implemented. > > This whole idea of "I can't work on this, let's throw it all out and > start again" is just incompetence. And you'll find several OS projects > that have spent many years, repeatedly going through that process and > never actually coming to any fruition because of it. > > Don't let those people near the kernel code. X11 is *old* and there is a lot of complexity involved, particularly when it comes to compositing libraries. Wayland takes the X server out of the conversation, which can improve security and efficiency, and also makes implimentation simpler. Can you, yet, run clients through an ssh tunnel, like you can do with X? For me, that's a killer feature. pgpYoLXAZVBYR.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Keyboard problem in F33
On 28/10/2020 18:15, Joachim Backes wrote: I upgraded almost sucessfully to F33. Before this action, my Keyboard was German,no deadkeys option, in all Fedora versions. But now, each time I logout and relogin, my keyboard is reset to an STD US keyboard. I am running as desktop a CINNAMON desktop. How can I get rid from this problem? Well, if you never use the US keyboard setting there is a "hammer" way to get around the issue. You can remove the US entry from the keyboard layout and leave only de-nodeadkeys. --- The key to getting good answers is to ask good questions. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
DWService
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FYI: Thunderbird 78 fails after upgrade to Fedora 33
Launching Thunderbird, after upgrading to Fedora 33, opens a small browser window displaying the following error: XML Parsing Error: undefined entity Location:chrome://messenger/content/messenger.xhtml Line Number 905, Column 3: This was working properly prior to the upgrade to Fedora 33 but after installing (via dnf update) the latest version of Thunderbird (78.3.1). You can still open it using "thunderbird --safe-mode". After much searching and guesswork I found a report describing it here: https://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg5848655.html The workaround/fix for me was apparently to remove all the language packs installed in .thunderbird/(default_profile) as described here: https://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg5848871.html I added back in the English GB package and it still worked. I note that I had numerous language packs that were flagged as incompatible but removing only those did not help. Unfortunately I haven't the time/resources to further debug but hopefully this will help anyone else that encounters this issue. ~~R ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
FYI: Thunderbird 78 fails after upgrade to Fedora 33
Launching Thunderbird, after upgrading to Fedora 33, opens a small browser window displaying the following error: XML Parsing Error: undefined entity Location: chrome://messenger/content/messenger.xhtml Line Number 905, Column 3: This was working properly prior to the upgrade but after installing (via dnf update) the latest version of Thunderbird (78.3.1). You can still open it using "thunderbird --safe-mode". After much searching and guesswork I found a report describing it here: https://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg5848655.html The workaround/fix for me was apparently to remove all the language packs installed in .thunderbird/(default_profile) as described here: https://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg5848871.html I added back in the English GB package and it still worked. I note that I had numerous language packs that were flagged as incompatible but removing only those did not help. Unfortunately I haven't the time/resources to further debug but hopefully this will help anyone else that encounters this issue. ~~R ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: system loses HDMI sound device
On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 13:19:59 +1100 Eyal Lebedinsky wrote: > This is up-to-date f32 amd64. > > From time to time I find that I do not have sound, and then > pavucontrol shows no configuration is available. Sound is via HDMI to > the monitor (TV). The internal sound device is not used. > > So far the only way out I found is to log out/in, but this is not > ideal. Is there a way to make the system (I suspect it is X) see the > sound device and enable it? Maybe with a udev command? [snip] > /sys/devices/virtual/sound/seq > /sys/devices/virtual/sound/timer > > When I have no sound I am missing the last two devices. > > In case it is related, there is also a KVM instance running on this > machine. > Does it fix it if you run pulseaudio --start That should re-initialize pulseaudio, picking up available devices. If the problem is some kind of race condition between X and pulseaudio as it seems to be because it is intermittent, this should remedy it. I don't think this is directly caused by X, as X should not be creating virtual sound devices. But, I'm no expert. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: system loses HDMI sound device
I have had reasonable luck with "pulseaudio -k" restarting/resetting pulseaudio and clearing up issues with audio. That is if it works at least sometimes. I used to have hdmi audio flip out each time the TV/monitor was turned off but that has not been a problem for me for a while (but I am on f31 right now). On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 9:20 PM Eyal Lebedinsky wrote: > > This is up-to-date f32 amd64. > > From time to time I find that I do not have sound, and then pavucontrol > shows no configuration > is available. Sound is via HDMI to the monitor (TV). The internal sound > device is not used. > > So far the only way out I found is to log out/in, but this is not ideal. Is > there a way to > make the system (I suspect it is X) see the sound device and enable it? Maybe > with a udev command? > > When all is well, I see this: > $ udevadm trigger -n -v |grep sound > /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1f.3/sound/card0 > /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1f.3/sound/card0/hwC0D0 > /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1f.3/sound/card0/hwC0D2 > /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1f.3/sound/card0/input12 > /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1f.3/sound/card0/input12/event12 > /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1f.3/sound/card0/input13 > /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1f.3/sound/card0/input13/event13 > /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1f.3/sound/card0/input14 > /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1f.3/sound/card0/input14/event14 > /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1f.3/sound/card0/input15 > /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1f.3/sound/card0/input15/event15 > /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1f.3/sound/card0/input16 > /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1f.3/sound/card0/input16/event17 > /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1f.3/sound/card0/input17 > /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1f.3/sound/card0/input17/event18 > /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1f.3/sound/card0/input18 > /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1f.3/sound/card0/input18/event19 > /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1f.3/sound/card0/input19 > /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1f.3/sound/card0/input19/event20 > /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1f.3/sound/card0/input20 > /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1f.3/sound/card0/input20/event21 > /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1f.3/sound/card0/input21 > /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1f.3/sound/card0/input21/event22 > /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1f.3/sound/card0/pcmC0D0c > /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1f.3/sound/card0/pcmC0D0p > /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1f.3/sound/card0/pcmC0D10p > /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1f.3/sound/card0/pcmC0D1p > /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1f.3/sound/card0/pcmC0D2c > /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1f.3/sound/card0/pcmC0D3p > /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1f.3/sound/card0/pcmC0D7p > /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1f.3/sound/card0/pcmC0D8p > /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1f.3/sound/card0/pcmC0D9p > /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1f.3/sound/card0/controlC0 > /sys/devices/virtual/sound/seq > /sys/devices/virtual/sound/timer > > When I have no sound I am missing the last two devices. > > In case it is related, there is also a KVM instance running on this machine. > > -- > Eyal Lebedinsky (fed...@eyal.emu.id.au) > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Policy regarding opt-out telemetry and privacy
On 10/27/20 9:57 PM, Olivier Lemasle wrote: Hi all, I'm packaging Open Policy Agent [1] (OPA) for Fedora. However, with version 0.20.0, OPA added a telemetry service, enabled by default, reporting to a OPA-managed service the OPA version, a UUID and the build architecture (cf changelog [2] and privacy information [3]) I didn't find any Fedora policy regarding this kind of opt-out telemetry, so I asked the Fedora Packaging Commitee for advice [4]. I got advised to ask Fedora community on this mailing list. So do you think it is ok to package OPA as is, or should I patch it to make telemetry opt-in by disabling it by default in the Fedora package? More globally, what do you think should be done in Fedora packages when an upstream project includes a telemetry service? Fedora has always obeyed a "no phone home" policy, i.e. "no telemetry" or other means of espionage by default. Besides this, any "by default active telemetry" would likely be unlawful in the EU, because it violates the GDPR[1] Ralf [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Keyboard problem in F33
On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 11:15:48 +0100 Joachim Backes wrote: > Hi guys, > I upgraded almost sucessfully to F33. > > Before this action, my Keyboard was German,no deadkeys option, in all > Fedora versions. > But now, each time I logout and relogin, my keyboard is reset to an > STD US keyboard. > > I am running as desktop a CINNAMON desktop. > > How can I get rid from this problem? Here is the file that sets the keyboard for X in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-keyboard.conf # Written by systemd-localed(8), read by systemd-localed and Xorg. It's # probably wise not to edit this file manually. Use localectl(1) to # instruct systemd-localed to update it. Section "InputClass" Identifier "system-keyboard" MatchIsKeyboard "on" Option "XkbLayout" "us" EndSection I think you want to set the last line to be the keyboard you want using localectl, as it recommends. Alternatively, you can set the X keyboard mapping by putting the file .Xkbmap in your home directory, with the name of the keymapping you want to use in X as the only entry. It has to be the name that X recognizes. There is probably a way to set locale for the keyboard in the Cinammon desktop, but I am not familiar with that. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Problem with CLI upgrade 32 -> 33
On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 15:25:28 - (UTC) Beartooth wrote: > I go through the usual sequence (twice on one machine, once > on another), and end up with : > > No match for group package "powerpc-utils" > No match for group package "lsvpd" > No match for group package "PackageKit-Qt" > No match for group package "grub2" > No match for group package "coolkey" > No match for group package "gstreamer-plugins-good" > No match for group package "kexec-tools-anaconda-addon" > No match for group package "isdn4k-utils" > No match for group package "fedora-release-notes" > No match for group package "dnf-yum" > No match for group package "authconfig" > No match for group package "gnome-icon-theme-symbolic" > No match for group package "system-config-users" > No match for group package "mate-icon-theme-faenza" > No match for group package "tabish-eeyek-fonts" > No match for group package "grub2-efi" > No match for group package "PackageKit-Qt-devel" > No match for group package "shim" > No match for group package "exaile" > No match for group package "paratype-pt-sans-fonts" It looks like these packages have been discontinued / removed / replaced. > Error: > Problem: package qgis-3.12.1-4.fc33.x86_64 requires libQt5Core.so. > 5(Qt_5.14.2_PRIVATE_API)(64bit), but none of the providers can be > installed > - package qgis-3.12.1-4.fc33.x86_64 requires libQt5Sql.so. > 5(Qt_5.14.2_PRIVATE_API)(64bit), but none of the providers can be > installed > - problem with installed package > qgis-3.12.1-4.fc32.x86_64 > - qt5-qtbase-5.14.2-5.fc32.x86_64 does not belong to a distupgrade > repository > - qgis-3.12.1-4.fc32.x86_64 does not belong to a distupgrade > repository (try to add '--skip-broken' to skip uninstallable packages) > > Of course I did try --skip-broken, but that failed, too. > > Is it me?? Not you. The package qgis-3.12.1-4.fc32.x86_64 requires qt5-qtbase-5.14.2-5.fc32.x86_64, but there is no policy for dealing with that package because it doesn't exist in F33. So, you can try adding --allowerasing to see if it will take care of that. Do not automatically accept the result, check to be sure that it won't remove things you want. If it does, try removing both qgis and qt5-qtbase before upgrading to see if that takes care of the problem. If it works, re-install qgis and let it pull in the dependencies it wants. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Policy regarding opt-out telemetry and privacy
On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 20:57:39 - "Olivier Lemasle" wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm packaging Open Policy Agent [1] (OPA) for Fedora. However, with > version 0.20.0, OPA added a telemetry service, enabled by default, > reporting to a OPA-managed service the OPA version, a UUID and the > build architecture (cf changelog [2] and privacy information [3]) > > I didn't find any Fedora policy regarding this kind of opt-out > telemetry, so I asked the Fedora Packaging Commitee for advice [4]. I > got advised to ask Fedora community on this mailing list. > > So do you think it is ok to package OPA as is, or should I patch it > to make telemetry opt-in by disabling it by default in the Fedora > package? > > More globally, what do you think should be done in Fedora packages > when an upstream project includes a telemetry service? > > Thank you & regards, > > -- > Olem > > [1] https://www.openpolicyagent.org/ > [2] https://github.com/open-policy-agent/opa/releases/tag/v0.20.0 > [3] https://www.openpolicyagent.org/docs/latest/privacy/ > [4] https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/991 Thanks for taking the time and effort to do this. Most of us here are probably not running in the cloud, so this will have little effect on us. However, even though it doesn't affect me, I think that this should be disabled by default (be opt in) as a matter of policy. As part of using a distribution, the updating of software is up to the maintainer because they ensure that it is compatible with other software that is available. For example, firefox has this same capability disabled by default in Fedora. This, of course, is an old school view. I read about people using various methods to install containers, where Fedora does not maintain and takes no responsibility for the quality of the software. In that case, it might be reasonable to turn this on. Linux in general seems to be heading in that direction, so you should take that into account. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: X Org Server is abandonware
On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 12:05:03PM -0400, Neal Becker wrote: > > For me the current wayland showstopper is this. Like many of you I am > working from home. I frequently need to make presentations. I am usually > using chrome as browser. Current stable chrome will not work to present > wayland windows. As I understand it chrome is running on X11 and only > other windows running in X11 are selectable for presentation. Frankly, I'm happy that my web browser can't steal visuals and key events from other windows on my desktop. If this needs to be implemented, it should be an opt in and not the default permissions. -- Jonathan Billings ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: X Org Server is abandonware
For me the current wayland showstopper is this. Like many of you I am working from home. I frequently need to make presentations. I am usually using chrome as browser. Current stable chrome will not work to present wayland windows. As I understand it chrome is running on X11 and only other windows running in X11 are selectable for presentation. I saw an announcement that newer versions of chrome will support wayland. I'm hoping that running on wayland maybe both wayland and X11 windows will be selectable for presentation. Thanks, Neal ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: X Org Server is abandonware
On Tue, 27 Oct 2020, Kevin Becker wrote: https://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/019/304/old.jpg You had to quote an entire post, including the boilerplate? To the quoteds: Please do not quote the boilerplate. -- Michael henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Sorry but your password must contain an uppercase letter, a number, a haiku, a gang sign, a heiroglyph, and the blood of a virgin." -- someeecards ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Problem with CLI upgrade 32 -> 33
I go through the usual sequence (twice on one machine, once on another), and end up with : No match for group package "powerpc-utils" No match for group package "lsvpd" No match for group package "PackageKit-Qt" No match for group package "grub2" No match for group package "coolkey" No match for group package "gstreamer-plugins-good" No match for group package "kexec-tools-anaconda-addon" No match for group package "isdn4k-utils" No match for group package "fedora-release-notes" No match for group package "dnf-yum" No match for group package "authconfig" No match for group package "gnome-icon-theme-symbolic" No match for group package "system-config-users" No match for group package "mate-icon-theme-faenza" No match for group package "tabish-eeyek-fonts" No match for group package "grub2-efi" No match for group package "PackageKit-Qt-devel" No match for group package "shim" No match for group package "exaile" No match for group package "paratype-pt-sans-fonts" Error: Problem: package qgis-3.12.1-4.fc33.x86_64 requires libQt5Core.so. 5(Qt_5.14.2_PRIVATE_API)(64bit), but none of the providers can be installed - package qgis-3.12.1-4.fc33.x86_64 requires libQt5Sql.so. 5(Qt_5.14.2_PRIVATE_API)(64bit), but none of the providers can be installed - problem with installed package qgis-3.12.1-4.fc32.x86_64 - qt5-qtbase-5.14.2-5.fc32.x86_64 does not belong to a distupgrade repository - qgis-3.12.1-4.fc32.x86_64 does not belong to a distupgrade repository (try to add '--skip-broken' to skip uninstallable packages) Of course I did try --skip-broken, but that failed, too. Is it me?? -- Beartooth Staffwright, Not Quite Clueless Power User Remember I know little (precious little!) of where up is. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Thunderbird filters -
I have installed and updated Fedora-33-Beta with XFCE. I have a problem configuring the received mail filter. I can create sub directories under inbox but the mail filter setup gui does not show them as available to send messages to. I have set up these filters many times and it normally works without problems but not this time. Am I the only one having trouble with this? Any suggestion appreciated, Bob -- Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA FEDORA-32/64bit LINUX XFCE Fastmail POP3 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: EXTERNAL: Firefox Clear History not clickable / F33
On 10/28/20 4:38 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > This is with default Fedora 33 Workstation x86_64. > > Firefox > History > Clear Recent History > Time range to clear > > The combobox can be clicked to show the drop-down list, but none of the > shown items can be selected with a mouse-click. Using cursor keys is the > workaround. > > Can anyone reproduce that? On FF 82.0 (on FC 32 workstation x86_64) I observe the same thing > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org -- Roger Wells, P.E. leidos 221 Third St Newport, RI 02840 401-847-4210 (voice) 401-849-1585 (fax) roger.k.we...@leidos.com ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Keyboard problem in F33
Hi guys, I upgraded almost sucessfully to F33. Before this action, my Keyboard was German,no deadkeys option, in all Fedora versions. But now, each time I logout and relogin, my keyboard is reset to an STD US keyboard. I am running as desktop a CINNAMON desktop. How can I get rid from this problem? KInd regards Joachim Backes -- Fedora release 33 (Thirty Three) Kernel-5.9.1-300.fc33.x86_64 Joachim Backes https://www-user.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes/ ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: An "arp ... pub" replacement?
On 28/10/2020 00:35, Tim via users wrote: I'm curious how they expected you to use their extra IPs if they won't let their router be configured for them. I assume the expectation is for any equipment that needs a public IP to be plugged directly into the router's layer 2 network. I'm not seeing this with one specific ISP, it is the default configuration for new internet connections from almost any ISP, and increasingly I'm finding the effort needed to get it changed ranges from "really quite inconvenient" to "never gonna happen". Its obviously not an issue where the firewall itself can be a PPPoE endpoint, or where the CPE is user-configurable. But connections terminated on CPE that only the ISP can manage seem to be very common these days. -- - Steve ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: X Org Server is abandonware
On 10/28/20 1:21 AM, Roberto Ragusa wrote: On 2020-10-28 06:27, Samuel Sieb wrote: I realize that you really don't like Gnome for some reason, but there's no reason to be making false claims like that. Aside from the various smaller window managers that either already support Wayland or are adding support, there's even a filed Fedora Change to make Wayland the default for KDE. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/WaylandByDefaultForPlasma As regards KDE+Wayland change, wouldn't be useful to also include a link to https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Wayland_Showstoppers in the Documentation section of that Fedora Change? That page was mentioned in the discussion, I thought someone was going to add it. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Firefox Clear History not clickable / F33
This is with default Fedora 33 Workstation x86_64. Firefox > History > Clear Recent History > Time range to clear The combobox can be clicked to show the drop-down list, but none of the shown items can be selected with a mouse-click. Using cursor keys is the workaround. Can anyone reproduce that? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: X Org Server is abandonware
On 2020-10-28 06:27, Samuel Sieb wrote: I realize that you really don't like Gnome for some reason, but there's no reason to be making false claims like that. Aside from the various smaller window managers that either already support Wayland or are adding support, there's even a filed Fedora Change to make Wayland the default for KDE. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/WaylandByDefaultForPlasma As regards KDE+Wayland change, wouldn't be useful to also include a link to https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Wayland_Showstoppers in the Documentation section of that Fedora Change? -- Roberto Ragusamail at robertoragusa.it ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
