Re: gnome: No options to log into classic session
On 7/13/21 4:50 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 13/7/21 12:02, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, At my FC34 gnome login, I get nothing on the lower right allowing me to login to the classic sessions. https://ibb.co/dpfJvfX $ ls /usr/share/xsessions/ gnome-classic.desktop gnome.desktop gnome-xorg.desktop $ ls /usr/share/wayland-sessi ons/ gnome.desktop I installed F34 in a VM from scratch which installed Gnome as the only Desktop and afterwards installed KDE through the DNF GroupInstall process. Using GDM as the DM I get Gnome Classic, Gnome, Gnome on X11 and Fluxbox as well as Plasma and Plasma on X11 in the bottom right hand corner. Issuing the same commands from KDE running on X11 that you did I have the following: ls /usr/share/xsessions fluxbox.desktop gnome-classic.desktop gnome.desktop gnome-xorg.desktop plasmax11.desktop ls /usr/share/wayland-sessions gnome.desktop plasma.desktop I got all those files too regards, Steve Hi Steve, You made me think properly. I modified my /etc/gdm/custom.conf to [daemon] Xorg WaylandEnable=false DefaultSession=gnome-classic And now I have my gear back in the lower right of the logon dialog! https://ibb.co/DG70XZb Yippee! -T Classic session is still weird, but nowhere near as weird as the current version. Now I have a choice. Thank you! -T ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: W11 and Fedora Workstation
On 7/13/21 4:54 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 13/7/21 11:00, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 8:16 AM, Kushal Hada wrote: On 7/11/2021 5:15 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, Any of you get a look at Windows 11 preview yet? Is it just me or did M$ RIP OFF Fedora Workstation with reckless abandon? I for one wouldn't mind the ripping off. Microsoft, please rip off things more if that means things will work better across the board. :) Sincerely, 1+ I would not mind if they did their own GUI on top of Fedora and made all Windows programs run on it. Hope springs eternal ??? Here is the rip off I am talking about: https://ibb.co/QFY7Gt2 Depending on your colour scheme Windows 10 uses that symbol for the start menu and I thought all versions of Windows used the same icon. They change a little every versions change ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Windows 11 VMs
> On July 13, 2021 at 6:59 PM Ed Greshko wrote: > > > On 14/07/2021 06:49, mcgarrett wrote: > >> On July 6, 2021 at 5:29 PM Patrick O'Callaghan > >> wrote: > >> > >> > >> On Tue, 2021-07-06 at 15:01 -0400, mcgarrett wrote: > >>> From the mail, it appears that a software TPM should solve the > >>> problem on older computers, > >>> but it occurs to me that you might not be permitted to install the > >>> software unless > >>> a TPM is found. So, for those who have already tried version 11, has > >>> any one of you > >>> tried installing on an older laptop, and then adding a software TPM, > >>> or is this impossible? --doug > >> As stated earlier, my system doesn´t have a hardware TPM, but adding a > >> software TPM in virt-manager was enough. > >> > >> poc > > Three questions: > > Background: I have Windows 10 on the computer, even tho there are no apps > > on it--I only use Linux. There may someday be a need for Windows? > > Q1: Could you install the win 11 and then add the TPM s/w, or must the TPM > > be on the machine already. > > Q2: If it must be on the machine already, do you install it from a previous > > version of Windows, i.e., Win 10? If not then how? > > Q3: Would you please direct me to the source of the TPM you installed? > > Thank you--doug > > The "software" TPM being talked about is more like TPM emulation. It can be > added to > any VM via virt-manager on the "Hardware" screen and using the button in the > lower left > to add hardware. > > The TPM can be added to any VM. The one caveat is that the VM must have been > created to > boot via UEFI and not BIOS. That option needs to be specified when the VM > was created. > > None of my motherboards have a TPM. So I use the emulation. However, if > you're motherboard does > have a TPM, I believe there is an option when adding TPM to a VM to use "Pass > Thru". > > It isn't possible, AFAIK, to simply change a VM from BIOS to UEFI. > I should apologize! I was thinking of this machine, which is almost new, and probably has the TPM in hardware. It's the laptop that's old, and has Windows 7! Probably just leave it that way. --doug ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Windows 11 VMs
On 7/13/21 4:33 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: I have a question about TPM hardware. Fedora 34 running as an image in a Vmware Player VM on a Windows 10 host reports that I don't have a TPM chip, and with Windows 10 running in a Virtualbox (both these VM' are the free versions of the VM's) VM on the same Windows 10 host when I try to update the image to Windows 11 it says the environment does not meet the install requirements. Vmware Player doesn't support UEFI but Virtualbox does and is active in the VM images. If I try upgrade the native Windows 10 host Windows 11 says it can install on my hardware. The Bios indicates that I have activated fTPM in my AMD Rizen cpu which Windows 11 seems to be finding, are the VM's suppressing the TPM functionality because I need to buy the commercial versions that allow a TPM to be added to the VM's as a device, or is Windows 11 and Fedora 34 not looking for the hardware the right way when running in a VM? The OS in the VM can't see any of the hardware on the host system unless the VM specifically passes it through. Normally, all "hardware" in the VM is virtual. qemu has an option to add a TPM by either creating a virtual one or passing the hardware one through. I have no idea about vmware or virtualbox. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: W11 and Fedora Workstation
On 13/7/21 11:00, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 8:16 AM, Kushal Hada wrote: On 7/11/2021 5:15 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, Any of you get a look at Windows 11 preview yet? Is it just me or did M$ RIP OFF Fedora Workstation with reckless abandon? I for one wouldn't mind the ripping off. Microsoft, please rip off things more if that means things will work better across the board. :) Sincerely, 1+ I would not mind if they did their own GUI on top of Fedora and made all Windows programs run on it. Hope springs eternal ??? Here is the rip off I am talking about: https://ibb.co/QFY7Gt2 Depending on your colour scheme Windows 10 uses that symbol for the start menu and I thought all versions of Windows used the same icon. regards, Steve ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Windows 11 VMs
On 14/07/2021 07:33, Stephen Morris wrote: On 14/7/21 08:59, Ed Greshko wrote: On 14/07/2021 06:49, mcgarrett wrote: On July 6, 2021 at 5:29 PM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2021-07-06 at 15:01 -0400, mcgarrett wrote: From the mail, it appears that a software TPM should solve the problem on older computers, but it occurs to me that you might not be permitted to install the software unless a TPM is found. So, for those who have already tried version 11, has any one of you tried installing on an older laptop, and then adding a software TPM, or is this impossible? --doug As stated earlier, my system doesn´t have a hardware TPM, but adding a software TPM in virt-manager was enough. poc Three questions: Background: I have Windows 10 on the computer, even tho there are no apps on it--I only use Linux. There may someday be a need for Windows? Q1: Could you install the win 11 and then add the TPM s/w, or must the TPM be on the machine already. Q2: If it must be on the machine already, do you install it from a previous version of Windows, i.e., Win 10? If not then how? Q3: Would you please direct me to the source of the TPM you installed? Thank you--doug The "software" TPM being talked about is more like TPM emulation. It can be added to any VM via virt-manager on the "Hardware" screen and using the button in the lower left to add hardware. The TPM can be added to any VM. The one caveat is that the VM must have been created to boot via UEFI and not BIOS. That option needs to be specified when the VM was created. None of my motherboards have a TPM. So I use the emulation. However, if you're motherboard does have a TPM, I believe there is an option when adding TPM to a VM to use "Pass Thru". It isn't possible, AFAIK, to simply change a VM from BIOS to UEFI. I have a question about TPM hardware. Fedora 34 running as an image in a Vmware Player VM on a Windows 10 host reports that I don't have a TPM chip, and with Windows 10 running in a Virtualbox (both these VM' are the free versions of the VM's) VM on the same Windows 10 host when I try to update the image to Windows 11 it says the environment does not meet the install requirements. Vmware Player doesn't support UEFI but Virtualbox does and is active in the VM images. If I try upgrade the native Windows 10 host Windows 11 says it can install on my hardware. The Bios indicates that I have activated fTPM in my AMD Rizen cpu which Windows 11 seems to be finding, are the VM's suppressing the TPM functionality because I need to buy the commercial versions that allow a TPM to be added to the VM's as a device, or is Windows 11 and Fedora 34 not looking for the hardware the right way when running in a VM? I don't use Vmware or VirtualBox. So, I can't answer this. -- Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Windows 11 VMs
On 14/07/2021 07:29, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 7/13/21 3:59 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: It isn't possible, AFAIK, to simply change a VM from BIOS to UEFI. I expect you could by editing the XML, but the installed system would need to be adjusted as well, including the hard drive partitioning, so not likely to be worth the effort. Right. It wouldn't be "simple". Much better to just start over. -- Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: OT: ink jet printers
> On July 10, 2021 at 5:38 PM Richard England wrote: > > > On 7/6/21 8:57 AM, Greg Woods wrote: > > Well, not completely OT because I do need one that will work on Fedora. > > > /snip/ Question #2 > > is, are any of the all-in-one laser printers any good and work (all > > functions) with Fedora Linux? > > > > Thanks, > > --Greg > > > Gave up on inkjets due to clogging issues with low usage. Went with HP > M283cdw. Color, scanner, copier, fax, and prints from a USB > thumbdrive. There are cheaper models but this one was on sale. Toner > cartridges are expensive but my utilization is low so the cost will be > painful once every two years or so. > > This model has WiFi connection as well as USB. Working currently with > Fedora 34, Mint 20 (Ulyssa) aka Ubuntu, and Windows 10> -- > ~~R > Will the scanner work with the XSANE app? I like that because it has various definitions which can be set so as to save ink/toner for low definition requirements, and then hi def for the occasions that require it. Using an Epson all-in-one, but I may be looking for a replacement-- got hit by lightning a few days ago, and a lot of electronic stuff is now junk! (Have not yet checked the Epson--the router got killed in the blast!) --doug ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: gnome: No options to log into classic session
On 13/7/21 12:02, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, At my FC34 gnome login, I get nothing on the lower right allowing me to login to the classic sessions. https://ibb.co/dpfJvfX $ ls /usr/share/xsessions/ gnome-classic.desktop gnome.desktop gnome-xorg.desktop $ ls /usr/share/wayland-sessions/ gnome.desktop I installed F34 in a VM from scratch which installed Gnome as the only Desktop and afterwards installed KDE through the DNF GroupInstall process. Using GDM as the DM I get Gnome Classic, Gnome, Gnome on X11 and Fluxbox as well as Plasma and Plasma on X11 in the bottom right hand corner. Issuing the same commands from KDE running on X11 that you did I have the following: ls /usr/share/xsessions fluxbox.desktop gnome-classic.desktop gnome.desktop gnome-xorg.desktop plasmax11.desktop ls /usr/share/wayland-sessions gnome.desktop plasma.desktop regards, Steve :'( -T ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: How to I switch KDE back to Xorg?
On 13/7/21 15:33, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 10:27 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 13/07/2021 12:47, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 9:42 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 13/07/2021 12:33, Ed Greshko wrote: Either way works just fine. Another thing that I found can be "helpful" with KDE is to edit the /etc/systemd/logind.conf to have one line read KillUserProcesses=yes I've done this for sometime now. I don't know, and really don't care to find out, it the situation exists that prompted me to do that. But, what was happening is that when one logged out from the Plasma session some processes would remain running in the background. I think the intention what that if the same user logged in again those processes could be reclaimed to speed up the login. I found that after a time there were a large number of "orphaned" processes. I also had issue with Plasma reconnecting to pulseaudio. I also think that not killing processes was part of the "switch user" feature which has been disabled by default and which I never really tried using. Killing the user processes on logout fixed things for me. I rebooted The reboot I'd been requesting was to ensure status entries were "fresh". I did that one and later on an additional one because the turkey froze on me. What I reference above was for normal operations where one may login/logout/login multiple time in a day. Oh my goodness KDE runs better on Xorg! When looking for something else a little while ago I found a thread on the net that was indicating that even in F34 KDE on Wayland was still not a viable entity. regards, Steve ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Windows 11 VMs
On 14/7/21 08:59, Ed Greshko wrote: On 14/07/2021 06:49, mcgarrett wrote: On July 6, 2021 at 5:29 PM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2021-07-06 at 15:01 -0400, mcgarrett wrote: From the mail, it appears that a software TPM should solve the problem on older computers, but it occurs to me that you might not be permitted to install the software unless a TPM is found. So, for those who have already tried version 11, has any one of you tried installing on an older laptop, and then adding a software TPM, or is this impossible? --doug As stated earlier, my system doesn´t have a hardware TPM, but adding a software TPM in virt-manager was enough. poc Three questions: Background: I have Windows 10 on the computer, even tho there are no apps on it--I only use Linux. There may someday be a need for Windows? Q1: Could you install the win 11 and then add the TPM s/w, or must the TPM be on the machine already. Q2: If it must be on the machine already, do you install it from a previous version of Windows, i.e., Win 10? If not then how? Q3: Would you please direct me to the source of the TPM you installed? Thank you--doug The "software" TPM being talked about is more like TPM emulation. It can be added to any VM via virt-manager on the "Hardware" screen and using the button in the lower left to add hardware. The TPM can be added to any VM. The one caveat is that the VM must have been created to boot via UEFI and not BIOS. That option needs to be specified when the VM was created. None of my motherboards have a TPM. So I use the emulation. However, if you're motherboard does have a TPM, I believe there is an option when adding TPM to a VM to use "Pass Thru". It isn't possible, AFAIK, to simply change a VM from BIOS to UEFI. I have a question about TPM hardware. Fedora 34 running as an image in a Vmware Player VM on a Windows 10 host reports that I don't have a TPM chip, and with Windows 10 running in a Virtualbox (both these VM' are the free versions of the VM's) VM on the same Windows 10 host when I try to update the image to Windows 11 it says the environment does not meet the install requirements. Vmware Player doesn't support UEFI but Virtualbox does and is active in the VM images. If I try upgrade the native Windows 10 host Windows 11 says it can install on my hardware. The Bios indicates that I have activated fTPM in my AMD Rizen cpu which Windows 11 seems to be finding, are the VM's suppressing the TPM functionality because I need to buy the commercial versions that allow a TPM to be added to the VM's as a device, or is Windows 11 and Fedora 34 not looking for the hardware the right way when running in a VM? regards, Steve ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Windows 11 VMs
On 7/13/21 3:59 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: It isn't possible, AFAIK, to simply change a VM from BIOS to UEFI. I expect you could by editing the XML, but the installed system would need to be adjusted as well, including the hard drive partitioning, so not likely to be worth the effort. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Windows 11 VMs
On 14/07/2021 06:49, mcgarrett wrote: On July 6, 2021 at 5:29 PM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2021-07-06 at 15:01 -0400, mcgarrett wrote: From the mail, it appears that a software TPM should solve the problem on older computers, but it occurs to me that you might not be permitted to install the software unless a TPM is found. So, for those who have already tried version 11, has any one of you tried installing on an older laptop, and then adding a software TPM, or is this impossible? --doug As stated earlier, my system doesn´t have a hardware TPM, but adding a software TPM in virt-manager was enough. poc Three questions: Background: I have Windows 10 on the computer, even tho there are no apps on it--I only use Linux. There may someday be a need for Windows? Q1: Could you install the win 11 and then add the TPM s/w, or must the TPM be on the machine already. Q2: If it must be on the machine already, do you install it from a previous version of Windows, i.e., Win 10? If not then how? Q3: Would you please direct me to the source of the TPM you installed? Thank you--doug The "software" TPM being talked about is more like TPM emulation. It can be added to any VM via virt-manager on the "Hardware" screen and using the button in the lower left to add hardware. The TPM can be added to any VM. The one caveat is that the VM must have been created to boot via UEFI and not BIOS. That option needs to be specified when the VM was created. None of my motherboards have a TPM. So I use the emulation. However, if you're motherboard does have a TPM, I believe there is an option when adding TPM to a VM to use "Pass Thru". It isn't possible, AFAIK, to simply change a VM from BIOS to UEFI. -- Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Windows 11 VMs
> On July 6, 2021 at 5:29 PM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > On Tue, 2021-07-06 at 15:01 -0400, mcgarrett wrote: > > From the mail, it appears that a software TPM should solve the > > problem on older computers, > > but it occurs to me that you might not be permitted to install the > > software unless > > a TPM is found. So, for those who have already tried version 11, has > > any one of you > > tried installing on an older laptop, and then adding a software TPM, > > or is this impossible? --doug > > As stated earlier, my system doesn´t have a hardware TPM, but adding a > software TPM in virt-manager was enough. > > poc Three questions: Background: I have Windows 10 on the computer, even tho there are no apps on it--I only use Linux. There may someday be a need for Windows? Q1: Could you install the win 11 and then add the TPM s/w, or must the TPM be on the machine already. Q2: If it must be on the machine already, do you install it from a previous version of Windows, i.e., Win 10? If not then how? Q3: Would you please direct me to the source of the TPM you installed? Thank you--doug ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 7/13/21 4:05 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Chuckle. That is what attracted me to Xfce to start with. I do no appreciate "OS" as "Playground": run my programs and get out of my way. I want stripped OS. Same here. When I learned what Gnome 3 was going to be like I started looking for a DE that wasn't so heavy weight and that allowed me to customize it without fighting back and have been happily running Xfce ever since. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Light Night | redshift | geoclue
On 12/07/2021 23:59, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 2:27 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: Can I use redshift without geoclue2 ? Yes Go into ~/.config/redshift.conf and set it to manual and set start and stop times If you really, really want the magic to work and geoclue fails you need to give it the latitude and longitude and use a UTC clock. It looks as if the position format is as below (for Munich via VPN from Taiwan ?). > Location: 48.10 N, 11.60 Copenhagen (see below) would be 55.7 N, 12.6 E man redshift: Example for Copenhagen, Denmark: $ redshift -l 55.7:12.6 -t 5700:3600 -g 0.8 -m vidmode -v ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 7/13/21 12:56 AM, Tim via users wrote: I use MATE, it's simple and doesn't weigh my system down just managing the desktop. I actually want to use the computer. Chuckle. That is what attracted me to Xfce to start with. I do no appreciate "OS" as "Playground": run my programs and get out of my way. I want stripped OS. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 13/07/2021 16:22, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/13/21 12:31 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 7/12/21 7:40 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Clipboard on Wayland is a PITA. In what way? I use Wayland on everything now and don't have any problems. It is a pain client to host. internally it seems okay Maybe on bare metal it is better. But in a Plasma on Wayland VM I have problems with cursor accuracy. Don't know if the attached small image will make it the list. But I moused over the 0 to try copy it and as you can see the word "Used" above it was selected. That doesn't happen in the same VM when running Plasma Xorg. -- Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 7/13/21 12:31 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 7/12/21 7:40 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Clipboard on Wayland is a PITA. In what way? I use Wayland on everything now and don't have any problems. It is a pain client to host. internally it seems okay ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 13/07/2021 15:52, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 7/13/21 12:48 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 13/07/2021 15:43, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 7/13/21 12:41 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 13/07/2021 15:31, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 7/12/21 7:40 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Clipboard on Wayland is a PITA. In what way? I use Wayland on everything now and don't have any problems. I've not tried it in quite a while. But, if I recall correctly, one could not simply highlight text in a knosole window and use a mouse click to paste. Had to use Ctr-Shift-C and Ctrl-Shift-V. There were other things on this list that caused issues for me. https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Wayland_Showstoppers Oh, KDE, no idea. But that has worked for a long time on Gnome. Oh, I suppose I need to revise my signature to reflect that I'm a Long Time KDE user with no intention to switch. :-) If you're making comments about Wayland, you need to specify which implementation. So your original comment should have been "Clipboard on Plasma Wayland is a PITA". Then I would have thought, "that's unfortunate", and moved on without making a reply. ;-) Well, with the Subject being what it is I thought the connection was obvious. Oh, well. -- Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
Tim: >>> Have you tried MATE? ToddAndMargo: >> Yes I did and liked it. So far, the only desktop >> I have not liked is gnome. It is just too weird >> for me. And I MUST have my task bar to torture >> recklessly. Samuel Sieb: > Have you tried the gnome-classic session? I tried that, and while it tries to look like the old Gnome, it wasn't quite there, and too CPU intensive on my machine. I use MATE, it's simple and doesn't weigh my system down just managing the desktop. I actually want to use the computer. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.31.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu Jun 10 13:32:12 UTC 2021 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 7/13/21 12:48 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 13/07/2021 15:43, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 7/13/21 12:41 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 13/07/2021 15:31, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 7/12/21 7:40 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Clipboard on Wayland is a PITA. In what way? I use Wayland on everything now and don't have any problems. I've not tried it in quite a while. But, if I recall correctly, one could not simply highlight text in a knosole window and use a mouse click to paste. Had to use Ctr-Shift-C and Ctrl-Shift-V. There were other things on this list that caused issues for me. https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Wayland_Showstoppers Oh, KDE, no idea. But that has worked for a long time on Gnome. Oh, I suppose I need to revise my signature to reflect that I'm a Long Time KDE user with no intention to switch. :-) If you're making comments about Wayland, you need to specify which implementation. So your original comment should have been "Clipboard on Plasma Wayland is a PITA". Then I would have thought, "that's unfortunate", and moved on without making a reply. ;-) ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 13/07/2021 15:43, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 7/13/21 12:41 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 13/07/2021 15:31, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 7/12/21 7:40 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Clipboard on Wayland is a PITA. In what way? I use Wayland on everything now and don't have any problems. I've not tried it in quite a while. But, if I recall correctly, one could not simply highlight text in a knosole window and use a mouse click to paste. Had to use Ctr-Shift-C and Ctrl-Shift-V. There were other things on this list that caused issues for me. https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Wayland_Showstoppers Oh, KDE, no idea. But that has worked for a long time on Gnome. Oh, I suppose I need to revise my signature to reflect that I'm a Long Time KDE user with no intention to switch. :-) -- Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 7/13/21 12:41 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 13/07/2021 15:31, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 7/12/21 7:40 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Clipboard on Wayland is a PITA. In what way? I use Wayland on everything now and don't have any problems. I've not tried it in quite a while. But, if I recall correctly, one could not simply highlight text in a knosole window and use a mouse click to paste. Had to use Ctr-Shift-C and Ctrl-Shift-V. There were other things on this list that caused issues for me. https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Wayland_Showstoppers Oh, KDE, no idea. But that has worked for a long time on Gnome. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 13/07/2021 15:31, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 7/12/21 7:40 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Clipboard on Wayland is a PITA. In what way? I use Wayland on everything now and don't have any problems. I've not tried it in quite a while. But, if I recall correctly, one could not simply highlight text in a knosole window and use a mouse click to paste. Had to use Ctr-Shift-C and Ctrl-Shift-V. There were other things on this list that caused issues for me. https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Wayland_Showstoppers -- Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 7/12/21 7:40 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Clipboard on Wayland is a PITA. In what way? I use Wayland on everything now and don't have any problems. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: How to I switch KDE back to Xorg?
On 13/07/2021 14:42, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 11:36 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: In my host and all my other VM's, spice-vdagentd.service is running far before ~/.bashrc and far before logging in. I happens seconds after the kernel is selected That is because some other desktops will do that. KDE doesn't That is what need to be fixed. More of a "Feature" request than anything. It will take me a while to configure ssh Takes 2 seconds on the guest. systemctl --now enable sshd I think the default KDE firewall setup has port 22 open -- Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 7/12/21 11:37 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 13/07/2021 14:28, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 7:40 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: At the KDE login screen the options are at the bottom left. Clipboard on Wayland is a PITA. The guys over on the qemu-kvm mailing gave me this link on the continuing efforts to get spice guest to work with it https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/3557 They also said Wayland and spice are "tricky". Thanks for the link. But I don't see myself using Wayland in the foreseeable future. And, I have put Wayland almost totally out of my mind. Oh my short experience with it make me shutter! No wonder the Xfce developers told me probably never. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: How to I switch KDE back to Xorg?
On 7/12/21 11:36 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: In my host and all my other VM's, spice-vdagentd.service is running far before ~/.bashrc and far before logging in. I happens seconds after the kernel is selected That is because some other desktops will do that. KDE doesn't That is what need to be fixed. It will take me a while to configure ssh ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 13/07/2021 14:28, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 7:40 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: At the KDE login screen the options are at the bottom left. Clipboard on Wayland is a PITA. The guys over on the qemu-kvm mailing gave me this link on the continuing efforts to get spice guest to work with it https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/3557 They also said Wayland and spice are "tricky". Thanks for the link. But I don't see myself using Wayland in the foreseeable future. And, I have put Wayland almost totally out of my mind. -- Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: How to I switch KDE back to Xorg?
On 13/07/2021 14:23, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 11:09 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 13/07/2021 13:56, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 10:44 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi Ed, I see the set up for the service and the socket. What I am trying to figure out is why the socket is not being triggered to start the service. What on ListenStream=/run/spice-vdagentd/spice-vdagent-sock is the socket missing? I do not understand the question. In my host and all my other VM's, spice-vdagentd.service is running far before ~/.bashrc and far before logging in. I happens seconds after the kernel is selected That is because some other desktops will do that. KDE doesn't That is the socket that /usr/bin/spice-vdagent binds to when run from .bashrc, the --user systemd unit, or from konsole. The action of spice-vdagent binding to the socket then triggers the spice-vdagentd (daemon). It doesn't though In KDE, spice-vdagentd.socket is not hearing spice-vdagent-sock to trugger spice-vdagentd.service. "OR" the spice-vdagent is never happening OK Try this simple test. Reboot the KDE system. Then login via an SSH session. Not a graphical session. You should then see egreshko@f34k2 ~]$ uptime 14:31:23 up 0 min, 1 user, load average: 1.73, 0.47, 0.16 [egreshko@f34k2 ~]$ ps -eaf | grep spice I then send something to the socket and Ctrl-C to end the ncat session. egreshko 1854 1828 0 14:31 pts/0 00:00:00 grep --color=auto spice [egreshko@f34k2 ~]$ ncat -U /run/spice-vdagentd/spice-vdagent-sock 0.21.0I ENTER SOMETHING ^C [egreshko@f34k2 ~]$ ps -eaf | grep spice root 1859 1 0 14:32 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/spice-vdagentd Now the daemon is running, triggered by the ncat communication. And we se [egreshko@f34k2 ~]$ systemctl --no-pager -l status spice-vdagentd.service ● spice-vdagentd.service - Agent daemon for Spice guests Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/spice-vdagentd.service; indirect; vendor preset: enabled) Active: active (running) since Tue 2021-07-13 14:32:07 CST; 39s ago TriggeredBy: ● spice-vdagentd.socket Process: 1858 ExecStart=/usr/sbin/spice-vdagentd $SPICE_VDAGENTD_EXTRA_ARGS (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Main PID: 1859 (spice-vdagentd) Tasks: 3 (limit: 2328) Memory: 892.0K CPU: 27ms CGroup: /system.slice/spice-vdagentd.service └─1859 /usr/sbin/spice-vdagentd Jul 13 14:32:07 f34k2.greshko.com systemd[1]: Starting Agent daemon for Spice guests... Jul 13 14:32:07 f34k2.greshko.com systemd[1]: Started Agent daemon for Spice guests. Jul 13 14:32:19 f34k2.greshko.com spice-vdagentd[1859]: unknown message from vdagent: 1313153097, ignoring Because the daemon doesn't know what to do with "I ENTER SOMETHING. -- Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 7/12/21 7:40 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: At the KDE login screen the options are at the bottom left. Clipboard on Wayland is a PITA. The guys over on the qemu-kvm mailing gave me this link on the continuing efforts to get spice guest to work with it https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/3557 They also said Wayland and spice are "tricky". ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: How to I switch KDE back to Xorg?
On 7/12/21 11:09 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 13/07/2021 13:56, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 10:44 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi Ed, I see the set up for the service and the socket. What I am trying to figure out is why the socket is not being triggered to start the service. What on ListenStream=/run/spice-vdagentd/spice-vdagent-sock is the socket missing? I do not understand the question. In my host and all my other VM's, spice-vdagentd.service is running far before ~/.bashrc and far before logging in. I happens seconds after the kernel is selected That is the socket that /usr/bin/spice-vdagent binds to when run from .bashrc, the --user systemd unit, or from konsole. The action of spice-vdagent binding to the socket then triggers the spice-vdagentd (daemon). It doesn't though In KDE, spice-vdagentd.socket is not hearing spice-vdagent-sock to trugger spice-vdagentd.service. "OR" the spice-vdagent is never happening ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: How to I switch KDE back to Xorg?
On 13/07/2021 13:56, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 10:44 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi Ed, I see the set up for the service and the socket. What I am trying to figure out is why the socket is not being triggered to start the service. What on ListenStream=/run/spice-vdagentd/spice-vdagent-sock is the socket missing? I do not understand the question. That is the socket that /usr/bin/spice-vdagent binds to when run from .bashrc, the --user systemd unit, or from konsole. The action of spice-vdagent binding to the socket then triggers the spice-vdagentd (daemon). -- Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: How to I switch KDE back to Xorg?
On 13/07/2021 13:44, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi Ed, I see the set up for the service and the socket. What I am trying to figure out is why the socket is not being triggered to start the service. Let me try this again. Every thing below looks as it should. At boot time, the spice-vdagentd.service is supposed to be *DEAD*. I showed you that to be the case in my previous post. It shows *DEAD*. That is NORMAL. That is The Way it Should be! Then when /usr/bin/spice-vdagent is run. (no d at the end) it will connect to the socket /run/spice-vdagentd/spice-vdagent-sock this then *triggers* spice-vdagentd. And that then runs. I showed all of that in my previous post. And, I mentioned 2 says to get /usr/bin/spice-vdagent to run on login. Why it didn't for you, I cannot comment without knowing the status after login. -T # cat /usr/lib/systemd/system/spice-vdagentd.service [Unit] Description=Agent daemon for Spice guests After=dbus.target Requires=spice-vdagentd.socket [Service] Type=forking EnvironmentFile=-/etc/sysconfig/spice-vdagentd ExecStart=/usr/sbin/spice-vdagentd $SPICE_VDAGENTD_EXTRA_ARGS PIDFile=/run/spice-vdagentd/spice-vdagentd.pid PrivateTmp=true Restart=on-failure [Install] Also=spice-vdagentd.socket # cat /usr/lib/systemd/system/spice-vdagentd.socket [Unit] Description=Activation socket for spice guest agent daemon [Socket] ListenStream=/run/spice-vdagentd/spice-vdagent-sock $ systemctl status spice-vdagentd.service ○ spice-vdagentd.service - Agent daemon for Spice guests Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/spice-vdagentd.service; indire> Active: inactive (dead) TriggeredBy: ● spice-vdagentd.socket $ systemctl status spice-vdagentd.socket ● spice-vdagentd.socket - Activation socket for spice guest agent daemon Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/spice-vdagentd.socket; static) Active: active (listening) since Mon 2021-07-12 22:35:53 PDT; 1min 36s> Triggers: ● spice-vdagentd.service Listen: /run/spice-vdagentd/spice-vdagent-sock (Stream) CGroup: /system.slice/spice-vdagentd.socket ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure -- Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
