pipewire configuration for f34

2021-09-06 Thread Jack Craig
in trying to fathom my loss of audio out, i keep seeing reference to files
in /etc/pipewire/  where my install has  nothing!

What am I missing? thx!
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Re: has anyone got pipewire working F34??

2021-09-06 Thread Jack Craig
i wanted to report gnome-control-panel sound see an output source, but not
in

when i do the testing, the speaker icon flashes, but no audio.

On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 7:43 AM stan via users 
wrote:

> On Sun, 5 Sep 2021 19:41:09 -0700
> Jack Craig  wrote:
>
> > aplay -lv
> >  List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
> > card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
> >   Subdevices: 1/1
> >   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
> > card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 7: HDMI 1 [HDMI 1]
> >   Subdevices: 0/1
> >   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
> > card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 8: HDMI 2 [HDMI 2]
> >   Subdevices: 1/1
> >   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
> > card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 9: HDMI 3 [HDMI 3]
> >   Subdevices: 1/1
> >   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
> > card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 10: HDMI 4 [HDMI 4]
> >   Subdevices: 1/1
> >   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
> > [root@ws jackc]#
>
> I recall from your first message that you were trying to instantiate
> hdmi:0,1.  From the above output, that device doesn't exist.  You only
> have devices hdmi:0,[3,7,8,9,10].  So, the error message is correct.
> For some reason, pipewire? is trying to open an incorrect device.  Do
> you have a device hard-coded somewhere in your configuration?  Pipewire
> should be able to figure out the correct device to try if it isn't
> being told a device to use (I think, no expert on pipewire).
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Re: has anyone got pipewire working F34??

2021-09-06 Thread Jack Craig
On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 7:43 AM stan via users 
wrote:

> On Sun, 5 Sep 2021 19:41:09 -0700
> Jack Craig  wrote:
>
> > aplay -lv
> >  List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
> > card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
> >   Subdevices: 1/1
> >   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
> > card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 7: HDMI 1 [HDMI 1]
> >   Subdevices: 0/1
> >   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
> > card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 8: HDMI 2 [HDMI 2]
> >   Subdevices: 1/1
> >   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
> > card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 9: HDMI 3 [HDMI 3]
> >   Subdevices: 1/1
> >   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
> > card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 10: HDMI 4 [HDMI 4]
> >   Subdevices: 1/1
> >   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
> > [root@ws jackc]#
>
> I recall from your first message that you were trying to instantiate
> hdmi:0,1.  From the above output, that device doesn't exist.  You only
> have devices hdmi:0,[3,7,8,9,10].  So, the error message is correct.
> For some reason, pipewire? is trying to open an incorrect device.  Do
> you have a device hard-coded somewhere in your configuration?


no,  it's a F34 workstation. one of my setup chores is to get audio working
with my LGTV.
i had pulseaudio running on my last install so  hw  works.

this is probably my screwup, but i have been trying to Not futz with the
released bits.


Pipewire
> should be able to figure out the correct device to try if it isn't
> being told a device to use (I think, no expert on pipewire).
>

me either, but i like what i read about PW so this is a good challenge

i'd like to get to the bottom of this no audio state.

Q: do you why there doesnt seem to be systemctl files(start,stop,status)
for pipewire, pipewire-pulse, pipewire-media-session ?

also i want to track this non-existent file.

thank you very much for these insights.

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Re: has anyone got pipewire working F34??

2021-09-06 Thread stan via users
On Sun, 5 Sep 2021 19:41:09 -0700
Jack Craig  wrote:

> aplay -lv
>  List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
> card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
>   Subdevices: 1/1
>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
> card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 7: HDMI 1 [HDMI 1]
>   Subdevices: 0/1
>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
> card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 8: HDMI 2 [HDMI 2]
>   Subdevices: 1/1
>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
> card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 9: HDMI 3 [HDMI 3]
>   Subdevices: 1/1
>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
> card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 10: HDMI 4 [HDMI 4]
>   Subdevices: 1/1
>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
> [root@ws jackc]#

I recall from your first message that you were trying to instantiate
hdmi:0,1.  From the above output, that device doesn't exist.  You only
have devices hdmi:0,[3,7,8,9,10].  So, the error message is correct.
For some reason, pipewire? is trying to open an incorrect device.  Do
you have a device hard-coded somewhere in your configuration?  Pipewire
should be able to figure out the correct device to try if it isn't
being told a device to use (I think, no expert on pipewire).
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Re: Installation & EFI

2021-09-06 Thread stan via users
On Sun, 05 Sep 2021 17:34:49 -
"Gunnar Gervin"  wrote:

Welcome to Fedora.
> Where do I find a Fedora distro with EFI ?

If you go here, you should be able to download an install image.  There
are also images that allow most of the install to be done from the net
(netinstall) and spins for special applications.  The way the images
work is that if the machine supports EFI, the image will boot in EFI and
install in EFI. If it doesn't support EFI, you will get a legacy
install.  You can tell what mode is selected when the image is booting
because it will have a message something like 
'EFI boot ...' if it is EFI.

https://getfedora.org/

You will probably want to enable the repositories from rpmfusion.org in
order to get patent encumbered software that is not allowed in fedora.

https://rpmfusion.org/
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Re: OT: How to load kernels in EFI setup.

2021-09-06 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
On 6 Sep 2021 at 1:02, Samuel Sieb wrote:

Subject:Re: OT: How to load kernels in EFI setup.
To: Community support for Fedora users 

From:   Samuel Sieb 
Date sent:  Mon, 6 Sep 2021 01:02:18 -0700
Send reply to:  Community support for Fedora 
users 

> On 9/4/21 4:21 AM, Michael D. Setzer II wrote:
> > Thanks for the quick response.
> > Yes, the kernel EFI options are built into the kernels build
> > from the kernel.org source code, but don't have
> > signatures, since that seems to be a very expensive and
> > long process, as I've seen on the memtest page about
> > there looking into it.
> 
> As an individual, you aren't going to go through the official process. 
> If it's your own machine, you can create your own key and register it 
> with the BIOS.  But that doesn't scale for many users.
> 

Basically, I want to be able to let people run the g4l 
program with as little extra work as possible. 
Originally, it was run only from a bootable regular CD 
with the syslinux boot process. Have been watching there 
pages, but it still seems the EFI boot is a working issue. 
Has been fixed at 6.03 for a long long time.
Then added the ability of booting from a Flash by either 
using they syslinux hybrid option on the iso, and then just 
copying it to a flash. 
A second option was to use grub4dos to make a bootable 
flash as well.
Then adding it directly to the grub menu using the 
40_custom, and just putting the kernel and ramdisk file in 
/boot.

Did use isomaster to look at the Fedora 34 iso image, and 
see that it does have a similar grub.cfg file under the efi 
directory, on my machines, they have the efi directory 
under boot, but guess it is just support files with no 
grub.cfg listed. So, might be the 40_custom option would 
work with the files in /image? 

For most users, it has been an option to just enable the 
legacy boot for running the g4l, and then turning it back 
off if necessary, but now seems some machines no longer 
have legacy at all, or it might be a multi-step process they 
haven't discovered to enable it? 

In past, it was something as easy as putting in a flash, 
and using F12 (or other key) to boot from it. 

Perhaps I'll have to setup a machine with EFI to do some 
more testing.. Thanks again for all your replies and time.

Use to have an option on my grub menu in classrooms 
that would restore the windows 10 partition in about 10 
minues from an image on an extra partition, so that any 
one could reset image to know set. Worked great, and 
used the udpcast option to image 19 other machines in 
about 45 minutes after creating a new multi-boot setup.


> The alternative is to disable secure boot which is supposed to be possible.
> 
> > I've currently got 5 running machines at home, all with
> > Fedora 33, but none are setup with EFI boot. All where
> > setup before, and have just had Fedora updated to next
> > versions as releases came out, so setup wasn't changed.
> > There is the efi directories, but they don't seem to have
> > any kernel files installed.
> 
> I don't know what efi directories you are referring to, but if it's not 
> an EFI boot, then they won't be used.
> 
> > I'm not even clear what OS the user has on machines.
> > Many use the G4L to make images of windows machines.
> > If I was still teaching, would have access to machines to
> > test with, but retired, so just have my working machines.
> 
> You can use virt-manager to create VMs using UEFI if you want to test 
> things.
> 
> > Process was so easy with the 40_custom setup, or booting
> > to CD or USB, but now with systems not offering legacy
> > options seems to be a major issue.
> 
> It's probably just as easy with EFI, but I'm still not clear on what 
> exactly you're asking.
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Re: OT: How to load kernels in EFI setup.

2021-09-06 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 9/4/21 4:21 AM, Michael D. Setzer II wrote:

Thanks for the quick response.
Yes, the kernel EFI options are built into the kernels build
from the kernel.org source code, but don't have
signatures, since that seems to be a very expensive and
long process, as I've seen on the memtest page about
there looking into it.


As an individual, you aren't going to go through the official process. 
If it's your own machine, you can create your own key and register it 
with the BIOS.  But that doesn't scale for many users.


The alternative is to disable secure boot which is supposed to be possible.


I've currently got 5 running machines at home, all with
Fedora 33, but none are setup with EFI boot. All where
setup before, and have just had Fedora updated to next
versions as releases came out, so setup wasn't changed.
There is the efi directories, but they don't seem to have
any kernel files installed.


I don't know what efi directories you are referring to, but if it's not 
an EFI boot, then they won't be used.



I'm not even clear what OS the user has on machines.
Many use the G4L to make images of windows machines.
If I was still teaching, would have access to machines to
test with, but retired, so just have my working machines.


You can use virt-manager to create VMs using UEFI if you want to test 
things.



Process was so easy with the 40_custom setup, or booting
to CD or USB, but now with systems not offering legacy
options seems to be a major issue.


It's probably just as easy with EFI, but I'm still not clear on what 
exactly you're asking.

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