Re: webcam

[Tim via users]

On Wed, 2021-11-24 at 22:12 +0100, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> v4l2-ctl --list-devices
> Cannot open device /dev/video0, exiting.
>  
> It looks like that I cannot turn the camera on (it is an internal
> camera).
> fn+f6 does not do any thing.
> The worst is that this camera has been workig in the past!

Hardware does fail.  And that can be a major pain when it's built-in.

If it weren't built in, one other guess might be that the computer
doesn't have sufficient power on its USB buses to run the camera. 
Though that's still a possibility, even with built-in cameras, they're
often an internal USB device.

The computer shares its USB power availability across a number of USB
ports, often in groups (e.g. one set of sockets shares a 1 amp maximum,
a second pair has their own 1 amp maximum), and there is a finite
maximum it can power.  You could try unplugging any extra USB
accessories to see if it makes any difference.

If I try plugging two webcams into my system USB things start to fail
in a very short time (a camera will go offline, the keyboard will fail,
a mouse will go erratic).  To recover, I'd have to unplug all USB
devices, wait a moment, then reconnect just keyboard and mouse. 
They're not identical models, so it shouldn't be a peculiar mistaking
of devices confusing it.
 
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Re: Message threading on this list

[Tim via users]

On Wed, 2021-11-24 at 11:18 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> I prefer Evolution to TBird. It lets you fall back to threading by
> Subject if the headers aren't present. I do that and don't see any
> threading issues.
> 
> You can also ignore a thread or subthread.

I've never seen a mail client make ignoring threads as easy as Forte
Agent did some 20 years ago.  Just press the I hotkey, and the current
message and all its siblings (now and forever), are marked to be
ignored (then they're either dimmed or hidden, according to your own
preferences).  But other responses in the thread are unaffected.

I did like how Agent worked, ignoring a thread did not erroneously mark
it as read.  To me, read means I've read it.  When "ignore" is separate
from "read" I can find unread messages if I need to.  It had nice
features for hiding old messages without deleting them, to unclutter
your display (again without erroneously marking them as read).  And for
purging even older messages from your cache, if you wanted to.  And it
was the only client I ever saw that could rewrap quotes, and quotes of
quotes, without mangling them.
 
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Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

[Tim via users]

On Wed, 2021-11-24 at 20:11 +, John Pilkington wrote:
> NVIDIA has several driver series, each of which has different
> hardware support. To determine which driver you need to install,
> you'll first need to find your graphics card model.

See my prior email about "why should we have to do this, it's the
computer."

In all seriousness, if a distro wants people to use it, don't make them
do deep forensics to figure out how to install drivers.  The computer
should be doing this analysis for you.
 
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Re: WiFi reconnecting periodically after upgrade to F35

[Scott Talbert]

> On 23/11/2021 10:36, Scott Talbert wrote:
> 
> What router do you have?  Most allow for DHCP reservations which will keep 
> the same IP
> address even when the band
> changes.  Or, you can manually set your IP address which is out of the range 
> the DHCP
> server supplies.  This will also
> keep the same IP address.
> 
> This is what I do, and all my devices (phones, tablets, etc.) move seamlessly 
> between
> bands as they move around our home.
> Never a loss of connections.
> 
> --
> Did 황준호 die?

Yeah, my router supports that, and I'll add a DHCP reservation for my Fedora 
laptop.

However - I upgraded the firmware on my wireless AP on Monday and I haven't 
seen any wifi drops since then.  So possibly problem solved?  :-)

Thanks,
Scott
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Re: webcam

[Samuel Sieb]

On 11/24/21 11:10, Patrick Dupre wrote:

I am trying to have my camera working on my laptop
The driver seem OK
but cheese says "no device found"


Run "journalctl -b" and see what you can find when it gets initialized. 
 Clearly it gets detected, but at some point it seems to go away since 
it's not in the USB list.

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Re: webcam

[Patrick Dupre]

v4l2-ctl --list-devices
Cannot open device /dev/video0, exiting.
 

It looks like that I cannot turn the camera on (it is an internal camera).

fn+f6 does not do any thing.

The worst is that this camera has been workig in the past!

 

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Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2021 at 10:42 PM
From: "John Westerdale" 
To: rogerhef...@gmail.com
Cc: "Community support for Fedora users" 
Subject: Re: webcam



Here is a traditional favorite for enumerating Video devices:

 

[jwesterd@jwesterd-f33 Citrix]$ v4l2-ctl --list-devices

Live! Cam Sync 1080p: Live! Cam (usb-:00:14.0-2.4):
/dev/video2
/dev/video3

Integrated Camera: Integrated C (usb-:00:14.0-8):
/dev/video0
/dev/video1

 

[jwesterd@jwesterd-f33]$ rpm -qf /usr/bin/v4l2-ctl
v4l-utils-1.20.0-1.fc33.x86_64

 






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On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 3:09 PM Roger Heflin  wrote:

I don't see a camera in lsusb.

So bad usb cable, bad usb socket, bad usb camera, or kernel issue
causing the driver to not allocate memory (or some other resource) and
finish loading.

On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 1:34 PM Patrick Dupre  wrote:
>
> Here is reg output of hwinfo |grep cam
>
>  E: KEYBOARD_KEY_ee=camera
>
> lspci
> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v5/E3-1500 v5/6th Gen Core Processor Host Bridge/DRAM Registers (rev 07)
> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6th-10th Gen Core Processor PCIe Controller (x16) (rev 07)
> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 530 (rev 06)
> 00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 100 Series/C230 Series Chipset Family USB 3.0 xHCI Controller (rev 31)
> 00:14.2 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation 100 Series/C230 Series Chipset Family Thermal Subsystem (rev 31)
> 00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 100 Series/C230 Series Chipset Family MEI Controller #1 (rev 31)
> 00:17.0 SATA controller: Intel Corporation HM170/QM170 Chipset SATA Controller [AHCI Mode] (rev 31)
> 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 100 Series/C230 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port #1 (rev f1)
> 00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 100 Series/C230 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port #4 (rev f1)
> 00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 100 Series/C230 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port #5 (rev f1)
> 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation HM170 Chipset LPC/eSPI Controller (rev 31)
> 00:1f.2 Memory controller: Intel Corporation 100 Series/C230 Series Chipset Family Power Management Controller (rev 31)
> 00:1f.3 Audio device: Intel Corporation 100 Series/C230 Series Chipset Family HD Audio Controller (rev 31)
> 00:1f.4 SMBus: Intel Corporation 100 Series/C230 Series Chipset Family SMBus (rev 31)
> 01:00.0 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM107M [GeForce GTX 960M] (rev a2)
> 02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 3165 (rev 81)
> 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Qualcomm Atheros Killer E2400 Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 10)
> 04:00.0 USB controller: ASMedia Technology Inc. ASM1142 USB 3.1 Host Controller
>
> susb
> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 30fa:0300  USB OPTICAL MOUSE
> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 1770:ff00 MSI steel series rgb keyboard
> Bus 001 Device 005: ID 0bda:0129 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTS5129 Card Reader Controller
> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 8087:0a2a Intel Corp. Bluetooth wireless interface
> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
>
>
> ===
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>  9 Avenue Alain Savary, BP 47870, 21078 DIJON Cedex FRANCE
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>
>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2021 at 9:10 PM
> > From: "Patrick Dupre" 
> > To: "fedora" 
> > Subject: webcam
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am trying to have my camera working on my laptop
> > The driver seem OK
> > but cheese says "no device found"
> >

Re: webcam

[John Westerdale]

Here is a traditional favorite for enumerating Video devices:

[jwesterd@jwesterd-f33 Citrix]$ v4l2-ctl --list-devices
Live! Cam Sync 1080p: Live! Cam (usb-:00:14.0-2.4):
/dev/video2
/dev/video3

Integrated Camera: Integrated C (usb-:00:14.0-8):
/dev/video0
/dev/video1

[jwesterd@jwesterd-f33]$ rpm -qf /usr/bin/v4l2-ctl
v4l-utils-1.20.0-1.fc33.x86_64


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Red Hat  NYC Office/WFH

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On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 3:09 PM Roger Heflin  wrote:

> I don't see a camera in lsusb.
>
> So bad usb cable, bad usb socket, bad usb camera, or kernel issue
> causing the driver to not allocate memory (or some other resource) and
> finish loading.
>
> On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 1:34 PM Patrick Dupre  wrote:
> >
> > Here is reg output of hwinfo |grep cam
> >
> >  E: KEYBOARD_KEY_ee=camera
> >
> > lspci
> > 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v5/E3-1500 v5/6th
> Gen Core Processor Host Bridge/DRAM Registers (rev 07)
> > 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6th-10th Gen Core Processor PCIe
> Controller (x16) (rev 07)
> > 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 530
> (rev 06)
> > 00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 100 Series/C230 Series Chipset
> Family USB 3.0 xHCI Controller (rev 31)
> > 00:14.2 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation 100 Series/C230
> Series Chipset Family Thermal Subsystem (rev 31)
> > 00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 100 Series/C230
> Series Chipset Family MEI Controller #1 (rev 31)
> > 00:17.0 SATA controller: Intel Corporation HM170/QM170 Chipset SATA
> Controller [AHCI Mode] (rev 31)
> > 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 100 Series/C230 Series Chipset
> Family PCI Express Root Port #1 (rev f1)
> > 00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 100 Series/C230 Series Chipset
> Family PCI Express Root Port #4 (rev f1)
> > 00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 100 Series/C230 Series Chipset
> Family PCI Express Root Port #5 (rev f1)
> > 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation HM170 Chipset LPC/eSPI Controller
> (rev 31)
> > 00:1f.2 Memory controller: Intel Corporation 100 Series/C230 Series
> Chipset Family Power Management Controller (rev 31)
> > 00:1f.3 Audio device: Intel Corporation 100 Series/C230 Series Chipset
> Family HD Audio Controller (rev 31)
> > 00:1f.4 SMBus: Intel Corporation 100 Series/C230 Series Chipset Family
> SMBus (rev 31)
> > 01:00.0 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM107M [GeForce GTX 960M] (rev
> a2)
> > 02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 3165 (rev 81)
> > 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Qualcomm Atheros Killer E2400 Gigabit
> Ethernet Controller (rev 10)
> > 04:00.0 USB controller: ASMedia Technology Inc. ASM1142 USB 3.1 Host
> Controller
> >
> > susb
> > Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
> > Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
> > Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
> > Bus 001 Device 003: ID 30fa:0300  USB OPTICAL MOUSE
> > Bus 001 Device 002: ID 1770:ff00 MSI steel series rgb keyboard
> > Bus 001 Device 005: ID 0bda:0129 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTS5129
> Card Reader Controller
> > Bus 001 Device 004: ID 8087:0a2a Intel Corp. Bluetooth wireless interface
> > Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
> >
> >
> >
> ===
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> >  Laboratoire interdisciplinaire Carnot de Bourgogne
> >  9 Avenue Alain Savary, BP 47870, 21078 DIJON Cedex FRANCE
> >  Tel: +33 (0)380395988| | Room# D114A
> >
> ===
> >
> >
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2021 at 9:10 PM
> > > From: "Patrick Dupre" 
> > > To: "fedora" 
> > > Subject: webcam
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I am trying to have my camera working on my laptop
> > > The driver seem OK
> > > but cheese says "no device found"
> > >
> > > What am I missing?
> > >
> > > lsmod|grep video
> > > uvcvideo  122880  0
> > > videobuf2_vmalloc  20480  1 uvcvideo
> > > videobuf2_memops   20480  1 videobuf2_vmalloc
> > > videobuf2_v4l2 36864  1 uvcvideo
> > > videobuf2_common   69632  4
> videobuf2_vmalloc,videobuf2_v4l2,uvcvideo,videobuf2_memops
> > > videodev  270336  3
> videobuf2_v4l2,uvcvideo,videobuf2_common
> > > mc 65536  4
> videodev,videobuf2_v4l2,uvcvideo,videobuf2_common
> > > video  57344  3 msi_wmi,i915,nouveau
> > >
> > >
> ===

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

[John Pilkington]

On 24/11/2021 14:43, Jonathan Billings wrote:

I know the ELrepo nvidia packages (for RHEL) have a nvidia-detect 
package (and corresponding yum plug-in) that makes it easy to install 
the appropriate package, giving you some automation.


http://elrepo.org/tiki/nvidia-detect 

Perhaps someone needs to port this over to Fedora, dnf, and rpmfusion?



I Posted this link earlier.  It's not a difficult google; but here it is 
again.  I've copied the equivalent section, and expanded a link within 
it but anyone hoping to use the rpmfusion packages for nvidia really 
ought to be aware of this page.  I'm not sure about Wayland, though...


https://rpmfusion.org/Howto/NVIDIA#Determining_your_card_model

{{{

Determining your card model

NVIDIA has several driver series, each of which has different hardware 
support. To determine which driver you need to install, you'll first 
need to find your graphics card model.


If you don't know it, open a Terminal (Applications > System Tools > 
Terminal) and type:


/sbin/lspci | grep -e VGA

You can also check the supported chips section:

https://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/495.44/README/supportedchips.html

and see which series is recommended for you card, then install the 
appropriate driver series. Please remember that you need additional 
steps for optimus.


}}}

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Re: webcam

[Roger Heflin]

I don't see a camera in lsusb.

So bad usb cable, bad usb socket, bad usb camera, or kernel issue
causing the driver to not allocate memory (or some other resource) and
finish loading.

On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 1:34 PM Patrick Dupre  wrote:
>
> Here is reg output of hwinfo |grep cam
>
>  E: KEYBOARD_KEY_ee=camera
>
> lspci
> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v5/E3-1500 v5/6th Gen 
> Core Processor Host Bridge/DRAM Registers (rev 07)
> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6th-10th Gen Core Processor PCIe 
> Controller (x16) (rev 07)
> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 530 (rev 06)
> 00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 100 Series/C230 Series Chipset 
> Family USB 3.0 xHCI Controller (rev 31)
> 00:14.2 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation 100 Series/C230 
> Series Chipset Family Thermal Subsystem (rev 31)
> 00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 100 Series/C230 Series 
> Chipset Family MEI Controller #1 (rev 31)
> 00:17.0 SATA controller: Intel Corporation HM170/QM170 Chipset SATA 
> Controller [AHCI Mode] (rev 31)
> 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 100 Series/C230 Series Chipset Family 
> PCI Express Root Port #1 (rev f1)
> 00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 100 Series/C230 Series Chipset Family 
> PCI Express Root Port #4 (rev f1)
> 00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 100 Series/C230 Series Chipset Family 
> PCI Express Root Port #5 (rev f1)
> 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation HM170 Chipset LPC/eSPI Controller (rev 
> 31)
> 00:1f.2 Memory controller: Intel Corporation 100 Series/C230 Series Chipset 
> Family Power Management Controller (rev 31)
> 00:1f.3 Audio device: Intel Corporation 100 Series/C230 Series Chipset Family 
> HD Audio Controller (rev 31)
> 00:1f.4 SMBus: Intel Corporation 100 Series/C230 Series Chipset Family SMBus 
> (rev 31)
> 01:00.0 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM107M [GeForce GTX 960M] (rev a2)
> 02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 3165 (rev 81)
> 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Qualcomm Atheros Killer E2400 Gigabit Ethernet 
> Controller (rev 10)
> 04:00.0 USB controller: ASMedia Technology Inc. ASM1142 USB 3.1 Host 
> Controller
>
> susb
> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 30fa:0300  USB OPTICAL MOUSE
> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 1770:ff00 MSI steel series rgb keyboard
> Bus 001 Device 005: ID 0bda:0129 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTS5129 Card 
> Reader Controller
> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 8087:0a2a Intel Corp. Bluetooth wireless interface
> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
>
>
> ===
>  Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdu...@gmx.com
>  Laboratoire interdisciplinaire Carnot de Bourgogne
>  9 Avenue Alain Savary, BP 47870, 21078 DIJON Cedex FRANCE
>  Tel: +33 (0)380395988| | Room# D114A
> ===
>
>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2021 at 9:10 PM
> > From: "Patrick Dupre" 
> > To: "fedora" 
> > Subject: webcam
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am trying to have my camera working on my laptop
> > The driver seem OK
> > but cheese says "no device found"
> >
> > What am I missing?
> >
> > lsmod|grep video
> > uvcvideo  122880  0
> > videobuf2_vmalloc  20480  1 uvcvideo
> > videobuf2_memops   20480  1 videobuf2_vmalloc
> > videobuf2_v4l2 36864  1 uvcvideo
> > videobuf2_common   69632  4 
> > videobuf2_vmalloc,videobuf2_v4l2,uvcvideo,videobuf2_memops
> > videodev  270336  3 videobuf2_v4l2,uvcvideo,videobuf2_common
> > mc 65536  4 
> > videodev,videobuf2_v4l2,uvcvideo,videobuf2_common
> > video  57344  3 msi_wmi,i915,nouveau
> >
> > ===
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> >  Laboratoire interdisciplinaire Carnot de Bourgogne
> >  9 Avenue Alain Savary, BP 47870, 21078 DIJON Cedex FRANCE
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Re: stream TO airplay/sonos

[James Szinger]

On Tue, 23 Nov 2021 09:31:50 -0600
SternData  wrote:

> Unfortunately, I can't find any "raop" support in the Fedora repos. 
> Thanks very much for getting me this far.

It is in pulseaudio-module-zeroconf.

Jim
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Fedora 34: Some applications show weird font

[Dario Lesca]

On my Notebook with Fedora 34 up to date (also on 35 new installation
on VM) some application show part of your text message with weird font
like this:

Torbrowser: https://i.imgur.com/7FRv4Xu.png
Libreoffice: https://i.imgur.com/9tkRqwH.png

On another PC with Fedora 34 up to date like my notebook this problem
not occurr and all work fine.

If I login with a new user the problem still exist

Seem a video driver or some package not installed o some other strange
think on my notebook

Someone can help me to analyse and resolve this issue?

Many thanks

https://imgur.com/7FRv4Xu
https://imgur.com/7FRv4Xu
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(inviato dal mio Linux Fedora 34 Workstation)

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Re: webcam

[Patrick Dupre]

Here is reg output of hwinfo |grep cam

 E: KEYBOARD_KEY_ee=camera

lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v5/E3-1500 v5/6th Gen Core 
Processor Host Bridge/DRAM Registers (rev 07)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6th-10th Gen Core Processor PCIe 
Controller (x16) (rev 07)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 530 (rev 06)
00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 100 Series/C230 Series Chipset Family 
USB 3.0 xHCI Controller (rev 31)
00:14.2 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation 100 Series/C230 Series 
Chipset Family Thermal Subsystem (rev 31)
00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 100 Series/C230 Series 
Chipset Family MEI Controller #1 (rev 31)
00:17.0 SATA controller: Intel Corporation HM170/QM170 Chipset SATA Controller 
[AHCI Mode] (rev 31)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 100 Series/C230 Series Chipset Family PCI 
Express Root Port #1 (rev f1)
00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 100 Series/C230 Series Chipset Family PCI 
Express Root Port #4 (rev f1)
00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 100 Series/C230 Series Chipset Family PCI 
Express Root Port #5 (rev f1)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation HM170 Chipset LPC/eSPI Controller (rev 31)
00:1f.2 Memory controller: Intel Corporation 100 Series/C230 Series Chipset 
Family Power Management Controller (rev 31)
00:1f.3 Audio device: Intel Corporation 100 Series/C230 Series Chipset Family 
HD Audio Controller (rev 31)
00:1f.4 SMBus: Intel Corporation 100 Series/C230 Series Chipset Family SMBus 
(rev 31)
01:00.0 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM107M [GeForce GTX 960M] (rev a2)
02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 3165 (rev 81)
03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Qualcomm Atheros Killer E2400 Gigabit Ethernet 
Controller (rev 10)
04:00.0 USB controller: ASMedia Technology Inc. ASM1142 USB 3.1 Host Controller

susb
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 30fa:0300  USB OPTICAL MOUSE 
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 1770:ff00 MSI steel series rgb keyboard
Bus 001 Device 005: ID 0bda:0129 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTS5129 Card 
Reader Controller
Bus 001 Device 004: ID 8087:0a2a Intel Corp. Bluetooth wireless interface
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub


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> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2021 at 9:10 PM
> From: "Patrick Dupre" 
> To: "fedora" 
> Subject: webcam
>
> Hello,
> 
> I am trying to have my camera working on my laptop
> The driver seem OK
> but cheese says "no device found"
> 
> What am I missing?
> 
> lsmod|grep video
> uvcvideo  122880  0
> videobuf2_vmalloc  20480  1 uvcvideo
> videobuf2_memops   20480  1 videobuf2_vmalloc
> videobuf2_v4l2 36864  1 uvcvideo
> videobuf2_common   69632  4 
> videobuf2_vmalloc,videobuf2_v4l2,uvcvideo,videobuf2_memops
> videodev  270336  3 videobuf2_v4l2,uvcvideo,videobuf2_common
> mc 65536  4 
> videodev,videobuf2_v4l2,uvcvideo,videobuf2_common
> video  57344  3 msi_wmi,i915,nouveau
> 
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Re: webcam

[Tom Horsley]

On Wed, 24 Nov 2021 20:10:28 +0100
Patrick Dupre wrote:

> What am I missing?

Possibly your user needs to be a member of the "video" group?
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webcam

[Patrick Dupre]

Hello,

I am trying to have my camera working on my laptop
The driver seem OK
but cheese says "no device found"

What am I missing?

lsmod|grep video
uvcvideo  122880  0
videobuf2_vmalloc  20480  1 uvcvideo
videobuf2_memops   20480  1 videobuf2_vmalloc
videobuf2_v4l2 36864  1 uvcvideo
videobuf2_common   69632  4 
videobuf2_vmalloc,videobuf2_v4l2,uvcvideo,videobuf2_memops
videodev  270336  3 videobuf2_v4l2,uvcvideo,videobuf2_common
mc 65536  4 
videodev,videobuf2_v4l2,uvcvideo,videobuf2_common
video  57344  3 msi_wmi,i915,nouveau

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Re: Hints, tips and advice on restoring data deleted (rm -rf !) from a Fedora 35 LVM ?

[linux guy]

I tried a bunch of tools.  The results were interesting.  I'll update the
group when I get caught up with things.
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Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

[Jonathan Billings]

On Nov 23, 2021, at 22:54, Tim via users  wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 2021-11-23 at 12:58 -0600, Roger Heflin wrote:
>> This is the magic decoder ring web page.  The most recent cards that
>> I think were kicked out are anything with a GK* in the code name
>> (kepler).   So any kepler cards seem to stop at 470.X.  And GF*
>> stopped a while ago at 340 I think.  If your card just stopped
>> working it is probably a GK* variant card.
>> 
>> But some models have 2 generations of chips.
>> 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nvidia_graphics_processing_units#GeForce_700_series
> 
> I gave up on NVidia video a long time ago, and this is one of the
> things that bugs me about having cards that *could* be used, but if
> only you could figure out how to do it:
> 
> *It's* the damn computer, why should *we* have to figure out which
> driver to install?
> 
> Either they could have one large package with everything it needs to
> install the one that you do (somewhat akin to CUPS, though I know it
> doesn't have absolutely everything within itself).  Or, they could have
> a detector package which surveys your graphics hardware and picks the
> right driver package to download and install.

I know the ELrepo nvidia packages (for RHEL) have a nvidia-detect package (and 
corresponding yum plug-in) that makes it easy to install the appropriate 
package, giving you some automation.

http://elrepo.org/tiki/nvidia-detect

Perhaps someone needs to port this over to Fedora, dnf, and rpmfusion? 

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Re: Fedora 34: Some applications show weird font

[Dario Lesca]

Il giorno mar, 23/11/2021 alle 20.47 +0100, Dario Lesca ha scritto:
> Is this a know issue?
> 
> Many thanks

Now it is:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2026369

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Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

[George N. White III]

On Tue, 23 Nov 2021 at 23:54, Tim via users 
wrote:

> On Tue, 2021-11-23 at 12:58 -0600, Roger Heflin wrote:
> > This is the magic decoder ring web page.  The most recent cards that
> > I think were kicked out are anything with a GK* in the code name
> > (kepler).   So any kepler cards seem to stop at 470.X.  And GF*
> > stopped a while ago at 340 I think.  If your card just stopped
> > working it is probably a GK* variant card.
> >
> > But some models have 2 generations of chips.
> >
> >
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nvidia_graphics_processing_units#GeForce_700_series
>
> I gave up on NVidia video a long time ago, and this is one of the
> things that bugs me about having cards that *could* be used, but if
> only you could figure out how to do it:
>

I have no problem using older NVidia hardware and living within
nouveau's limitations, but I will go to macOS or Windows to get
a job done.


> *It's* the damn computer, why should *we* have to figure out which
> driver to install?
>

There is no business case for graphics hardware vendors to invest
in helping people use old hardware.  Open source,however, needs
time to reverse engineer drivers, so by the time the vendor drops
support, there is often some level of open source support.

At my former work in a group that used remote sensing data, linux
was never viable due to the extra effort needed to maintain colour
fidelity, so we moved from SGI to Apple hardware, using linux only
for work that did not have demanding colour fidelity or 3-D requirements.

>
> Either they could have one large package with everything it needs to
> install the one that you do (somewhat akin to CUPS, though I know it
> doesn't have absolutely everything within itself).  Or, they could have
> a detector package which surveys your graphics hardware and picks the
> right driver package to download and install.
>

This approach leads to every increasing complexity so developers
move to a new more capable low-level protocol:

CUPS  FUTURE: Remove printer driver and raw queue support. #5271:
https://github.com/apple/cups/issues/5271

https://www.pwg.org/ipp/everywhere.html

Like Xorg, CUPS was becoming unmaintainable.  IPP Everywhere is
the CUPS analog of wayland.   I would like to see a proper analysis
of the issues that slowed Nvidia's wayland support.  My impression
of IPP everywhere is that it provides a standard interface for
applications by collecting extensive details of the printer's
parameters and generic page description formats.   Newer printers
support IPP directly, and legacy printers can use translation layers
(like Xwayland?).


>
> I had to go through the same crap with Windows 98SE, eons ago:  You'd
> buy a card and it came with a driver CD-ROM full of a gazillion drivers
> for your card, and a plethora of other things (often with dozens of
> things unrelated to your kind of hardware).  Then, you had to figure
> out which one to install by divine inspiration.  It didn't probe and do
> it (or if it did, it got it wrong).  Your best chance was to look at
> the chipsets on the card, and try to find a driver with similar details
> in the filename.
>

A long time ago, I encountered cards that used ATI chips but had
eliminated one of the ancillary chips used in real ATI cards.  The
card came with drivers that replaced the missing functions with
software, but only for one Windows version.  Real ATI drivers
told us the cards were broken.

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Re: Message threading on this list

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2021-11-24 at 20:22 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > I prefer Evolution to TBird. It lets you fall back to threading by
> > Subject if the headers aren't present. I do that and don't see any
> > threading issues.
> 
> One can also turn off threading in T-Bird and sort by subject
> instead.  Just 2 clicks.

Not sure if that's the same. In Evolution you don't turn threading off
(though you can), but just add the Subject field as another criterion.

> For forums such as Fedora I select my "View" to be "Unread" so it
> matters not where a new message pops up within a thread.

I also do that. The default View in Evo is highly customizable.

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Re: Message threading on this list

[Ed Greshko]

On 24/11/2021 19:18, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Wed, 2021-11-24 at 13:43 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:

Frankly, one feature I would like to see implemented in T-Bird is a way to 
ignore and not show some
of these "sub" sorted items within a thread that veer off on
meaningless (at least to me) tangents.

I prefer Evolution to TBird. It lets you fall back to threading by
Subject if the headers aren't present. I do that and don't see any
threading issues.


One can also turn off threading in T-Bird and sort by subject instead.  Just 2 
clicks.

For forums such as Fedora I select my "View" to be "Unread" so it matters not 
where a new message pops up
within a thread.  Well, except for the times someone doesn't do proper quoting 
of previous posts.  :-)
I then only read the posts/threads of interest to me.  I ignore threads, for 
example, that ask about issues of dual boots
as I have no experience in that area.  After reading what I want to read I mark my Fedora 
folder "read".

As for Evolution, I've been using T-Bird for the longest time and I'll admit to 
being lazy about trying it.


You can also ignore a thread or subthread.



OK, that may be a reason.  I'll have to sleep on it.

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Re: Message threading on this list

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2021-11-24 at 13:43 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 24/11/2021 06:06, John Pilkington wrote:
> > I'm used to reading messages in order of time of arrival.  Threaded
> > display in Thunderbird, or the presentation of the archive by
> > Hyperkitty, doesn't do this; the current thread about NVIDIA
> > drivers is utterly disjointed in both, with recent posts buried at
> > random partway up the display.  Is there a fix?
> > 
> 
> As far as I can tell, threading is working as designed and T-Bird is
> following the RFC.  Since I'm replying to the initial message
> the headers being used by T-Bird are the In-Reply-To: and
> References:. So this reply won't be sorted with the messages that
> were also replies to the initial post since my reply will lack
> 
> References: <7b78fada-752f-8900-b2ec-07752cee7...@gmail.com>
>   
> In-Reply-To: 
> 
> It will probably appear at the end of the thread based on the
> time/date this is sent.
> 
> If you want to view the thread in chronological order without regard
> to this "sub" sorting
> then you probably want to use the gmail web interface.
> 
> Frankly, one feature I would like to see implemented in T-Bird is a
> way to ignore and not show some
> of these "sub" sorted items within a thread that veer off on
> meaningless (at least to me) tangents.

I prefer Evolution to TBird. It lets you fall back to threading by
Subject if the headers aren't present. I do that and don't see any
threading issues.

You can also ignore a thread or subthread.

poc
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