Re: Gigabyte: "we cannot offer full support on Linux"

2022-05-16 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2022-05-16 at 19:02 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> One of their motherboards keeps locking up on me. After some back and
> forth their last reply ended the discussion thread with a:
> 
> # Since we do not fully support and validate Linux, we cannot offer full
> # support on Linux. Please try a Windows base OS to check if you are still
> # experiencing the same instability issue.

I take issue with this on a customer service stand point.

As the customer, it is NOT YOUR JOB to diagnose faulty hardware. 
Probably most of their customers would be unable to do that.  You
should be able to return non-working equipment and THEY should assess
it.  You should also be able to return it to the vendor without being
hassled about it, nor being told to go back to the manufacturer instead
(in my country, that's actually illegal to be fobbed off that way).

Of course you mightn't trust them, and it's in your interests to do
your own tests, first.  But the obligation should be on THEM.

When I've dealt with good companies, I've asked them about non-working
equipment, they've given me a few simple to do "have you tried this?"
questions, and when I confirmed I'd done what I could, they simply told
me to bring it back.  If they'd asked me to jump through hoops I would
have given them a serve over it, but they didn't.  I delightedly name
one, Jaycar, as a company that will try their level best to get out of
warranties, and act illegally about it.

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Re: LibreOffice Base?

2022-05-16 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2022-05-15 at 10:30 -0800, Fred wrote:
> I had to manually install the optional packages

Likewise.  The ones people commonly want, and are required for them to
run are a basic installation.

It will probably change depending on which spin you install.  One might
use the basic defaults, another might include more things for you.
 
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Re: Gigabyte: "we cannot offer full support on Linux"

2022-05-16 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/16/22 20:57, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

I almost forgot.  When you freeze up, can you do a
  
?

To get back out, do a
  


At least for Gnome, the first terminal is F3 and back to your session is 
F2.  F1 goes to the login screen.

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Re: Shift+PrintScreen gone with F36?

2022-05-16 Thread Frederic Muller

On 5/16/22 22:07, stan via users wrote:

On Mon, 16 May 2022 13:17:28 +0700
Frederic Muller  wrote:


Thank you, didn't see that link. Now that doesn't really fit my needs
as I liked the (partial) screenshot saved automatically, avoiding to
open a imaging application to get back the clipboard. I'll spare
everyone the rant over great simple things going away...

Who knows maybe we'll get back a way to have SHIFT+PrintScreen in
GNOME 48, who knows?

There is an application called spectacle that takes screenshots.  In
the configuration, there is a way to set keyboard shortcuts.  Perhaps
you can adapt it to do what you want?
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Thank you. Wasn't aware of that, will install and play with it then.

Fred
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Re: Gigabyte: "we cannot offer full support on Linux"

2022-05-16 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

On 5/16/22 18:30, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

On 5/16/22 18:17, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

On 5/16/22 16:02, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
It's been a long time since I've encountered this kind of obtuseness. 
This is not new, but I thought that this kind of blindness was in the 
rear-view mirror. I guess not.


One of their motherboards keeps locking up on me. After some back and 
forth their last reply ended the discussion thread with a:


# Since we do not fully support and validate Linux, we cannot offer full
# support on Linux. Please try a Windows base OS to check if you are 
still

# experiencing the same instability issue.

Just thought I'd mention it here, so that other DIYers might take 
this into consideration. Looking at their support page, it's listing 
new BIOS updates every month.


Hi Sam V.,

If a motherboard can run Windows, it can run Linux.
Not necessarily the other way around though.
Windows has artificial blocks (8 & 9 gen processors
and TPM modules).

What you are experiencing is the atrocious customer
service since the work-at-home started.  Gigabyte
and Intel a YUGE offenders.  You got a "blow off"
response.   Anything to NOT answer and NOT help.
What is unusual is that GIGABYTE actually answered
back.

I have a question into them as to the replacement
for their W480M, which is no longer produced.
The lazy so-and-so sent me back the advertising
brochure for the W480M.  When I called him on it,
he would not budge.  I did figure it out (C246M-WU4).

When I asked Intel which processors supported on that
motherboard supported ECC, they sent me all the
processors.  When I called him on it, he also would
not budge.  Ya, i3 and ECC, my aunt fanny.  (I
did eventually figure it out: it is their new
"e" series xeon processors.)

Business rule: relationships outlive transactions.
These zero and blow off customer service companies
better be darned careful or they will not have
businesses after too long.


So anyway, as a occasional system builder, I have
found Gigabyte's motherboards to be of pretty good
overall quality.

Now providing you did not populate your motherboard
with cheap memory, used processors, bargain SSD drives,
here are some things to try.

1) download any of the Fedora Live Spins and dd them
to a a 8+ GB flash drive.  Boot off it.  And torture
the thing.  If it does not freeze up, your hardware
is okay, except for your hard drive.  Then you
dnf gsmartcontrol and test your hard drive with it.

https://spins.fedoraproject.org/
# dd if=spin.iso of=/dev/sd[x]

Sub appropriate names in the above.


2) if you are feeling really adventurous and have a
spare hard drive kicking around, you could download
and install Windows 10 (no TPM hassle)

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10ISO

and cut it to and 8+ GB flash drive with woeusb
(Internet connection required):

 # dnf install WoeUSB
 # dd bs=4096 if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sd[x]
 # woeusb --device Win10_21H2_English_x64.iso /dev/sd[x] 
--target-filesystem NTFS


or whatever the iso is called.  You do not need a license for
this.  Windows will just not let you set a wall paper.
Woopie-do.

If you do not feel like installing Windows on a spare
hard drive, disconnect your Linux drive, fire up the
Windows installer and jet let it sit there.  See
if you freeze up.

If it is your hardware, try substituting Kingston memory.
Crucial if you  absolutely you have to.

For SSD Drive, I only recommend Samsung.  They just
work.  No drama.

And remember.  You pay for what you get.  Well, except
for my advice!

:-)

HTH,
-T


Are all your fans working?  Frozen fans on video
cards are a YUGE cause of freeze ups.



I almost forgot.  When you freeze up, can you do a
 
?

To get back out, do a
 


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Re: Gigabyte: "we cannot offer full support on Linux"

2022-05-16 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

On 5/16/22 18:43, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Mon, 16 May 2022 18:30:10 -0700
ToddAndMargo via users wrote:


Are all your fans working?  Frozen fans on video
cards are a YUGE cause of freeze ups.


So is the nouveau driver :-(. I run nouveau on every new fedora
install until the video and/or system locks up, then I install
nvidia drivers from rpmfusion and never have any additional
video problems. (In the latest install nouveau can't run X
at all and picks the wrong resolution under wayland, so I didn't
run it very long :-).


Good point.


A live of Xfce or MATE would be a great test as neither
uses Wayland
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Re: Gigabyte: "we cannot offer full support on Linux"

2022-05-16 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 16 May 2022 18:32:29 -0700
ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

> I have a bootable flash drive with DOS 6.22 on it
> for upgrading bios'es Supermicro's motherboards.

At least with motherboards all the ones I've had
in the last few years can update directly from
a usb stick with no dos/windows/anything required.
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Re: Gigabyte: "we cannot offer full support on Linux"

2022-05-16 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 16 May 2022 18:30:10 -0700
ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

> Are all your fans working?  Frozen fans on video
> cards are a YUGE cause of freeze ups.

So is the nouveau driver :-(. I run nouveau on every new fedora
install until the video and/or system locks up, then I install
nvidia drivers from rpmfusion and never have any additional
video problems. (In the latest install nouveau can't run X
at all and picks the wrong resolution under wayland, so I didn't
run it very long :-).
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Re: Gigabyte: "we cannot offer full support on Linux"

2022-05-16 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

On 5/16/22 18:27, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Mon, 16 May 2022 18:17:53 -0700
ToddAndMargo via users wrote:


For SSD Drive, I only recommend Samsung.  They just
work.  No drama.


But if you need to update firmware on a samsung ssd you
have to run their windows only utility (at least the last
time I looked).


I busted their chops on that one already.

On the other hand, I have never had to upgrade
their firmware.

I have a bootable flash drive with DOS 6.22 on it
for upgrading bios'es Supermicro's motherboards.

These guys can be rather shortsighted.
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Re: Gigabyte: "we cannot offer full support on Linux"

2022-05-16 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

On 5/16/22 18:17, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

On 5/16/22 16:02, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
It's been a long time since I've encountered this kind of obtuseness. 
This is not new, but I thought that this kind of blindness was in the 
rear-view mirror. I guess not.


One of their motherboards keeps locking up on me. After some back and 
forth their last reply ended the discussion thread with a:


# Since we do not fully support and validate Linux, we cannot offer full
# support on Linux. Please try a Windows base OS to check if you are 
still

# experiencing the same instability issue.

Just thought I'd mention it here, so that other DIYers might take this 
into consideration. Looking at their support page, it's listing new 
BIOS updates every month.


Hi Sam V.,

If a motherboard can run Windows, it can run Linux.
Not necessarily the other way around though.
Windows has artificial blocks (8 & 9 gen processors
and TPM modules).

What you are experiencing is the atrocious customer
service since the work-at-home started.  Gigabyte
and Intel a YUGE offenders.  You got a "blow off"
response.   Anything to NOT answer and NOT help.
What is unusual is that GIGABYTE actually answered
back.

I have a question into them as to the replacement
for their W480M, which is no longer produced.
The lazy so-and-so sent me back the advertising
brochure for the W480M.  When I called him on it,
he would not budge.  I did figure it out (C246M-WU4).

When I asked Intel which processors supported on that
motherboard supported ECC, they sent me all the
processors.  When I called him on it, he also would
not budge.  Ya, i3 and ECC, my aunt fanny.  (I
did eventually figure it out: it is their new
"e" series xeon processors.)

Business rule: relationships outlive transactions.
These zero and blow off customer service companies
better be darned careful or they will not have
businesses after too long.


So anyway, as a occasional system builder, I have
found Gigabyte's motherboards to be of pretty good
overall quality.

Now providing you did not populate your motherboard
with cheap memory, used processors, bargain SSD drives,
here are some things to try.

1) download any of the Fedora Live Spins and dd them
to a a 8+ GB flash drive.  Boot off it.  And torture
the thing.  If it does not freeze up, your hardware
is okay, except for your hard drive.  Then you
dnf gsmartcontrol and test your hard drive with it.

https://spins.fedoraproject.org/
# dd if=spin.iso of=/dev/sd[x]

Sub appropriate names in the above.


2) if you are feeling really adventurous and have a
spare hard drive kicking around, you could download
and install Windows 10 (no TPM hassle)

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10ISO

and cut it to and 8+ GB flash drive with woeusb
(Internet connection required):

     # dnf install WoeUSB
     # dd bs=4096 if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sd[x]
     # woeusb --device Win10_21H2_English_x64.iso /dev/sd[x] 
--target-filesystem NTFS


or whatever the iso is called.  You do not need a license for
this.  Windows will just not let you set a wall paper.
Woopie-do.

If you do not feel like installing Windows on a spare
hard drive, disconnect your Linux drive, fire up the
Windows installer and jet let it sit there.  See
if you freeze up.

If it is your hardware, try substituting Kingston memory.
Crucial if you  absolutely you have to.

For SSD Drive, I only recommend Samsung.  They just
work.  No drama.

And remember.  You pay for what you get.  Well, except
for my advice!

:-)

HTH,
-T


Are all your fans working?  Frozen fans on video
cards are a YUGE cause of freeze ups.


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Re: Gigabyte: "we cannot offer full support on Linux"

2022-05-16 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 16 May 2022 18:17:53 -0700
ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

> For SSD Drive, I only recommend Samsung.  They just
> work.  No drama.

But if you need to update firmware on a samsung ssd you
have to run their windows only utility (at least the last
time I looked).
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Re: Gigabyte: "we cannot offer full support on Linux"

2022-05-16 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

On 5/16/22 16:02, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
It's been a long time since I've encountered this kind of obtuseness. 
This is not new, but I thought that this kind of blindness was in the 
rear-view mirror. I guess not.


One of their motherboards keeps locking up on me. After some back and 
forth their last reply ended the discussion thread with a:


# Since we do not fully support and validate Linux, we cannot offer full
# support on Linux. Please try a Windows base OS to check if you are still
# experiencing the same instability issue.

Just thought I'd mention it here, so that other DIYers might take this 
into consideration. Looking at their support page, it's listing new BIOS 
updates every month.


Hi Sam V.,

If a motherboard can run Windows, it can run Linux.
Not necessarily the other way around though.
Windows has artificial blocks (8 & 9 gen processors
and TPM modules).

What you are experiencing is the atrocious customer
service since the work-at-home started.  Gigabyte
and Intel a YUGE offenders.  You got a "blow off"
response.   Anything to NOT answer and NOT help.
What is unusual is that GIGABYTE actually answered
back.

I have a question into them as to the replacement
for their W480M, which is no longer produced.
The lazy so-and-so sent me back the advertising
brochure for the W480M.  When I called him on it,
he would not budge.  I did figure it out (C246M-WU4).

When I asked Intel which processors supported on that
motherboard supported ECC, they sent me all the
processors.  When I called him on it, he also would
not budge.  Ya, i3 and ECC, my aunt fanny.  (I
did eventually figure it out: it is their new
"e" series xeon processors.)

Business rule: relationships outlive transactions.
These zero and blow off customer service companies
better be darned careful or they will not have
businesses after too long.


So anyway, as a occasional system builder, I have
found Gigabyte's motherboards to be of pretty good
overall quality.

Now providing you did not populate your motherboard
with cheap memory, used processors, bargain SSD drives,
here are some things to try.

1) download any of the Fedora Live Spins and dd them
to a a 8+ GB flash drive.  Boot off it.  And torture
the thing.  If it does not freeze up, your hardware
is okay, except for your hard drive.  Then you
dnf gsmartcontrol and test your hard drive with it.

https://spins.fedoraproject.org/
# dd if=spin.iso of=/dev/sd[x]

Sub appropriate names in the above.


2) if you are feeling really adventurous and have a
spare hard drive kicking around, you could download
and install Windows 10 (no TPM hassle)

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10ISO

and cut it to and 8+ GB flash drive with woeusb
(Internet connection required):

# dnf install WoeUSB
# dd bs=4096 if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sd[x]
# woeusb --device Win10_21H2_English_x64.iso /dev/sd[x] 
--target-filesystem NTFS


or whatever the iso is called.  You do not need a license for
this.  Windows will just not let you set a wall paper.
Woopie-do.

If you do not feel like installing Windows on a spare
hard drive, disconnect your Linux drive, fire up the
Windows installer and jet let it sit there.  See
if you freeze up.

If it is your hardware, try substituting Kingston memory.
Crucial if you  absolutely you have to.

For SSD Drive, I only recommend Samsung.  They just
work.  No drama.

And remember.  You pay for what you get.  Well, except
for my advice!

:-)

HTH,
-T







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Gigabyte: "we cannot offer full support on Linux"

2022-05-16 Thread Sam Varshavchik
It's been a long time since I've encountered this kind of obtuseness. This  
is not new, but I thought that this kind of blindness was in the rear-view  
mirror. I guess not.


One of their motherboards keeps locking up on me. After some back and forth  
their last reply ended the discussion thread with a:


# Since we do not fully support and validate Linux, we cannot offer full
# support on Linux. Please try a Windows base OS to check if you are still
# experiencing the same instability issue.

Just thought I'd mention it here, so that other DIYers might take this into  
consideration. Looking at their support page, it's listing new BIOS updates  
every month.




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Re: Problems with Borg backup on F36

2022-05-16 Thread James Szinger
On Mon, 16 May 2022 20:56:10 +0100
Patrick O'Callaghan  wrote:

> On Mon, 2022-05-16 at 18:20 +0200, Markus Schönhaber wrote:
> > 16.05.22, 17:45 +0200, Patrick O'Callaghan:
> >   
> > > I updated to F36 a few days ago and everything seemed to go
> > > smoothly
> > > until I noticed my regular nightly backups were failing. I use
> > > Borgbackup and the configuration has been stable for a long time
> > > with
> > > no problems. The actual backup does seem to succeed, but Borg runs
> > > a
> > > post-backup repository check that is now failing, even for backups
> > > taken before the system upgrade.  
> >

I upgraded a laptop to F36 few days ago and borgmatic runs without
error, including the check.  I suspect something else is happening.
Try increasing borgmatic’s verbosity to see the borg error message.

borgmatic-1.6.0 does have some breaking changes, but that is the
current version for both 35 and 36.

Also, my systems are using borgbackup-1.1.17-1.fc35 and
borgbackup-1.2.0-1.fc36.  How did you get 1.2.0 on F35?

Jim


> > Could be caused by the update to borg 1.2. You might want to take a
> > look 
> > at this bug report:
> > https://github.com/borgbackup/borg/issues/6687
> >   
> 
> I did consider that. However the upgrade to Borg 1.2 happened on April
> 12, weeks before the system upgrade to Fedora 36, and there were no
> errors in the intervening time. Also, the built-in validation check on
> the config file says it's all fine.
> 
> > > I've reported this:
> > > https://mail.google.com/mail/u/1/?zx=60aw7rldu1gf&pli=1#inbox  
> > 
> > I don't get where this link is supposed to lead to.  
> 
> Sorry, that should have been:
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2086497
> 
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Re: Problems with Borg backup on F36

2022-05-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2022-05-16 at 18:20 +0200, Markus Schönhaber wrote:
> 16.05.22, 17:45 +0200, Patrick O'Callaghan:
> 
> > I updated to F36 a few days ago and everything seemed to go
> > smoothly
> > until I noticed my regular nightly backups were failing. I use
> > Borgbackup and the configuration has been stable for a long time
> > with
> > no problems. The actual backup does seem to succeed, but Borg runs
> > a
> > post-backup repository check that is now failing, even for backups
> > taken before the system upgrade.
> 
> Could be caused by the update to borg 1.2. You might want to take a
> look 
> at this bug report:
> https://github.com/borgbackup/borg/issues/6687
> 

I did consider that. However the upgrade to Borg 1.2 happened on April
12, weeks before the system upgrade to Fedora 36, and there were no
errors in the intervening time. Also, the built-in validation check on
the config file says it's all fine.

> > I've reported this:
> > https://mail.google.com/mail/u/1/?zx=60aw7rldu1gf&pli=1#inbox
> 
> I don't get where this link is supposed to lead to.

Sorry, that should have been:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2086497

poc
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Re: Problems with Borg backup on F36

2022-05-16 Thread Markus Schönhaber

16.05.22, 17:45 +0200, Patrick O'Callaghan:


I updated to F36 a few days ago and everything seemed to go smoothly
until I noticed my regular nightly backups were failing. I use
Borgbackup and the configuration has been stable for a long time with
no problems. The actual backup does seem to succeed, but Borg runs a
post-backup repository check that is now failing, even for backups
taken before the system upgrade.


Could be caused by the update to borg 1.2. You might want to take a look 
at this bug report:

https://github.com/borgbackup/borg/issues/6687


I've reported this:
https://mail.google.com/mail/u/1/?zx=60aw7rldu1gf&pli=1#inbox


I don't get where this link is supposed to lead to.

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Regards
  mks
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Problems with Borg backup on F36

2022-05-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
I updated to F36 a few days ago and everything seemed to go smoothly
until I noticed my regular nightly backups were failing. I use
Borgbackup and the configuration has been stable for a long time with
no problems. The actual backup does seem to succeed, but Borg runs a
post-backup repository check that is now failing, even for backups
taken before the system upgrade.

I've reported this:
https://mail.google.com/mail/u/1/?zx=60aw7rldu1gf&pli=1#inbox

poc
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Re: Shift+PrintScreen gone with F36?

2022-05-16 Thread stan via users
On Mon, 16 May 2022 13:17:28 +0700
Frederic Muller  wrote:

> Thank you, didn't see that link. Now that doesn't really fit my needs
> as I liked the (partial) screenshot saved automatically, avoiding to
> open a imaging application to get back the clipboard. I'll spare
> everyone the rant over great simple things going away...
> 
> Who knows maybe we'll get back a way to have SHIFT+PrintScreen in
> GNOME 48, who knows?

There is an application called spectacle that takes screenshots.  In
the configuration, there is a way to set keyboard shortcuts.  Perhaps
you can adapt it to do what you want?
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OT : systemd-udev issue in CentOS 8.5 / Rocky Linux 8.5 / RHEL 8.5

2022-05-16 Thread Peter Skensved
   
   Sorry for being a bit off topic here but I'm hoping some of the clever 
people on this 
list can help me out with a systemd-udev issue here.I'm hoping this is a solved 
issue in
fedora that maybe hasn't made its way upstream yet.

 I have a custom usb devive that I want a certain group of users to have full 
access to when
it is plugged in . For CentOS 6 & 7 I just add a rule to  /etc/udev/rules.d  
like

SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="03eb", ATTR{idProduct}=="2017", 
GROUP="atmel", MODE="666"

and Bob is your uncle. The created usb device ( /dev/bus/usb/.../...  gets 
permissions 666 as
user root and group atmel .

 However, I cannot get this to work the same way with CentOS 8 / Rocky Linux 8 
/ ( RHEL 8 )
and I cannot figure out why not. The device in /dev/bus/usb is being created 
but only  root
can access it as the ownersip is set to root:root and the mode to 664 . The 
logs report an :
unhandled action 'bind' on /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:14.0/usb1/1-1 ( or 
similar depending
on the port used ) and  systemd-udev  retuns :  invalid SUBSYSTEM operation  
which doesn't
tell me a lot.

 Removing the MODE and GROUP from the rule makes the error messages go away but 
ownership and
permissions are set to the default root and 664

 Trying to replace MODE and GROUP ith a RUN=+some_script also fails ( with or 
without
including the ACTION=="add" keyword. The script never starts as far as I can 
tell.

 Anybody knows what is going on here ? Does systemd-udevd not have root 
permissions ?
I can of course set the mode as user root or use sudo but really ?

 systemd is version 239 which is probably outdated by fedora standards but it 
is what comes
with RHEL 8.5 clones.

  peter

 
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