It just keeps working

2022-08-01 Thread yesxorno via users
Dear Fedora Maintainers,

The work you do to maintain a community, FOSS branch of Redhat deserves 
commendation. I was a software developer (and teacher of such) in the past. I 
know the effort; the rebuilds, the regression tests.

I wish you all to know that I am very thankful.

While maintaining an entire build is mind bogglingly difficult, one element 
deserves specific praise; the "dnf" upgrade method. This has been so reliable 
as to be foolproof.

Well done, for years and years and years.

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Re: VLC could not decode the format "h264" (H264 - MPEG-4 AVC (part 10))

2022-08-01 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 8/1/22 18:42, Javier Perez wrote:

Input #0, matroska,webm, from 'test_file.mkv':
   Metadata:
     title           : test_file
     COMMENT         :
     ENCODER         : Lavf58.20.100
   Duration: 01:04:22.25, start: 0.00, bitrate: 622 kb/s
   Stream #0:0(eng): Video: h264 (High), yuv420p(progressive), 720x360 


That looks like a normal file.
What does "vlc -l | grep 264" show?
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Re: VLC could not decode the format "h264" (H264 - MPEG-4 AVC (part 10))

2022-08-01 Thread Javier Perez
ffprobe version 5.0.1 Copyright (c) 2007-2022 the FFmpeg developers
  built with gcc 12 (GCC)
  configuration: --prefix=/usr --bindir=/usr/bin
--datadir=/usr/share/ffmpeg --docdir=/usr/share/doc/ffmpeg
--incdir=/usr/include/ffmpeg --libdir=/usr/lib64 --mandir=/usr/share/man
--arch=x86_64 --optflags='-O2 -flto=auto -ffat-lto-objects -fexceptions -g
-grecord-gcc-switches -pipe -Wall -Werror=format-security
-Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -Wp,-D_GLIBCXX_ASSERTIONS
-specs=/usr/lib/rpm/redhat/redhat-hardened-cc1 -fstack-protector-strong
-specs=/usr/lib/rpm/redhat/redhat-annobin-cc1 -m64 -mtune=generic
-fasynchronous-unwind-tables -fstack-clash-protection -fcf-protection'
--extra-ldflags='-Wl,-z,relro -Wl,--as-needed -Wl,-z,now
-specs=/usr/lib/rpm/redhat/redhat-hardened-ld
-specs=/usr/lib/rpm/redhat/redhat-annobin-cc1 -Wl,--build-id=sha1 '
--extra-cflags=' -I/usr/include/rav1e' --enable-libopencore-amrnb
--enable-libopencore-amrwb --enable-libvo-amrwbenc --enable-version3
--enable-bzlib --enable-chromaprint --disable-crystalhd --enable-fontconfig
--enable-frei0r --enable-gcrypt --enable-gnutls --enable-ladspa
--enable-libaom --enable-libdav1d --enable-libass --enable-libbluray
--enable-libbs2b --enable-libcdio --enable-libdrm --enable-libjack
--enable-libfreetype --enable-libfribidi --enable-libgsm --enable-libilbc
--enable-libmp3lame --enable-libmysofa --enable-nvenc --enable-openal
--enable-opencl --enable-opengl --enable-libopenjpeg --enable-libopenmpt
--enable-libopus --enable-libpulse --enable-librsvg --enable-librav1e
--enable-librtmp --enable-librubberband --enable-libsmbclient
--enable-version3 --enable-libsnappy --enable-libsoxr --enable-libspeex
--enable-libsrt --enable-libssh --enable-libsvtav1 --enable-libtesseract
--enable-libtheora --enable-libtwolame --enable-libvorbis --enable-libv4l2
--enable-libvidstab --enable-libvmaf --enable-version3 --enable-vapoursynth
--enable-libvpx --enable-vulkan --enable-libglslang --enable-libwebp
--enable-libx264 --enable-libx265 --enable-libxvid --enable-libxml2
--enable-libzimg --enable-libzmq --enable-libzvbi --enable-lv2
--enable-avfilter --enable-libmodplug --enable-postproc --enable-pthreads
--disable-static --enable-shared --enable-gpl --disable-debug
--disable-stripping --shlibdir=/usr/lib64 --enable-lto --enable-libmfx
--enable-runtime-cpudetect
  libavutil  57. 17.100 / 57. 17.100
  libavcodec 59. 18.100 / 59. 18.100
  libavformat59. 16.100 / 59. 16.100
  libavdevice59.  4.100 / 59.  4.100
  libavfilter 8. 24.100 /  8. 24.100
  libswscale  6.  4.100 /  6.  4.100
  libswresample   4.  3.100 /  4.  3.100
  libpostproc56.  3.100 / 56.  3.100
Input #0, matroska,webm, from 'test_file.mkv':
  Metadata:
title   : test_file
COMMENT :
ENCODER : Lavf58.20.100
  Duration: 01:04:22.25, start: 0.00, bitrate: 622 kb/s
  Stream #0:0(eng): Video: h264 (High), yuv420p(progressive), 720x360 [SAR
1:1 DAR 2:1], 23.98 fps, 23.98 tbr, 1k tbn (default)
Metadata:
  title   : test_file
  ENCODER : Lavc58.35.100 libx264
  DURATION: 01:04:22.23500
  Stream #0:1(eng): Audio: aac (LC), 48000 Hz, stereo, fltp (default)
Metadata:
  title   : test_file
  ENCODER : Lavc58.35.100 libfdk_aac
  DURATION: 01:04:22.25100
  Stream #0:2(eng): Subtitle: subrip (default)
Metadata:
  title   : test_file
  DURATION: 01:03:06.99700
  Stream #0:3(eng): Subtitle: subrip
Metadata:
  title   : English
  DURATION: 01:03:06.99700

On Mon, Aug 1, 2022 at 8:26 PM Samuel Sieb  wrote:

> On 8/1/22 18:17, Javier Perez wrote:
> > [pepebuho@pepewin Personal]$ vlc
> > VLC media player 3.0.17.2 Vetinari (revision )
> > [55f684c10b70] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface.
> > Use 'cvlc' to use vlc without interface.
> > [7fafdf34ceb0] main decoder error: Codec `h264' (H264 - MPEG-4 AVC
> > (part 10)) is not supported.
>
> That's very strange.  Is it a specific file or any .mp4 file?  Can you
> run "ffprobe" on the file?
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Re: VLC could not decode the format "h264" (H264 - MPEG-4 AVC (part 10))

2022-08-01 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 8/1/22 18:17, Javier Perez wrote:

[pepebuho@pepewin Personal]$ vlc
VLC media player 3.0.17.2 Vetinari (revision )
[55f684c10b70] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface. 
Use 'cvlc' to use vlc without interface.
[7fafdf34ceb0] main decoder error: Codec `h264' (H264 - MPEG-4 AVC 
(part 10)) is not supported.


That's very strange.  Is it a specific file or any .mp4 file?  Can you 
run "ffprobe" on the file?

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Re: VLC could not decode the format "h264" (H264 - MPEG-4 AVC (part 10))

2022-08-01 Thread Javier Perez
[pepebuho@pepewin Personal]$ vlc
VLC media player 3.0.17.2 Vetinari (revision )
[55f684c10b70] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface. Use
'cvlc' to use vlc without interface.
[7fafdf34ceb0] main decoder error: Codec `h264' (H264 - MPEG-4 AVC
(part 10)) is not supported.


On Mon, Aug 1, 2022 at 12:33 PM Samuel Sieb  wrote:

> On 7/31/22 09:56, Javier Perez wrote:
> > Just upgraded from F35 to F36.
> > What plugin do I have to add in order to play this codec?
>
> How are you running vlc?
> If you run it from a terminal, is there any relevant output?
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Re: Nvidia refresh rate.

2022-08-01 Thread John Pilkington

On 31/07/2022 13:07, GianPiero Puccioni wrote:

Hi,

I want to decrease the refrash rate of the video to use less battery but 
I am

having difficulties...

I have F35 with KDE on a Dell G15 with Nvidia GA107M [GeForce RTX 3050 Ti
Mobile], the RPMFusion drivers and a  1920x1080  resolution (native).

In the "system settings-display" There is the possibility to change 
refresh from

120Hz to 60Hz but it doesn't stick; I change it and "apply" but if I change
screen and go back to "display" it's again at 120Hz, I tried 
"nvidia-settings"

but it has only info, not settings.
The program "xrandr" reports
    1920x1080    120.00*+  59.97    59.96    59.93

Is this the problem 59.97 not 60?

Any suggestions?

G


Resending to list:

I think I may have seen something like this in the past, with the gui 
reporting a possible refresh rate as an integer but not reinterpreting 
that as the appropriate floating point value when trying to use it as a 
setting.


Have you tried setting with  xrandr?

xrandr --output  --rate 59.97

looks as if it might help, if I knew what to put as 

And the archlinux xrandr wiki looks as if it could be useful.

John P




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Re: VLC could not decode the format "h264" (H264 - MPEG-4 AVC (part 10))

2022-08-01 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 7/31/22 09:56, Javier Perez wrote:

Just upgraded from F35 to F36.
What plugin do I have to add in order to play this codec?


How are you running vlc?
If you run it from a terminal, is there any relevant output?
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Re: Nvidia refresh rate.

2022-08-01 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2022-08-01 at 07:11 +0100, Barry wrote:
> That is usual, it’s called 60 but is in fact the NTSC refresh rate.
> It’s offset from 60Hz to avoid flicker effects from lighting I
> understand.

If it was exactly the same as mains, you'd get no flickering effects
(the very slow phase differences would be very minor).  If it's a
slightly different frequency, that's when flickering can be more
noticeable.

NTSC isn't exactly 60 Hertz because they wanted a precise relationship
between vert and horizontal sync, and colour subcarrier and sound
subcarrier with minimal interference between each other.  Think of it
like a series of cogs meshed together, rather than a number of free-
running motors *trying* to spin precisely in time with each other.

NTSC is almost 60 Hertz because it's barely any different from the B
60 Hertz system before it.  It was 60 Hertz (same as mains frequency)
to avoid flicker with the mains powered lights.  Back then, some
cameras were quite sensitive to such things.  Much more than people
might notice mains hum issues on their television sets.

50 Hertz countries got 50 Hertz television for the same reason.

I've often wondered what film studios did.  Did they use DC lights? 
Did they have special AC generators running at a multiple of film frame
rates?

Film's normally shot at 24 frames per second.  I know 60 Hertz cameras
don't like our 50 Hertz lighting, I've had to film under those
circumstances and the strobing can be migraine-inducing.  I can't
imagine filming at 24 Hertz under 60 Hertz lighting would be any
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Re: 32-->36?

2022-08-01 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2022-07-30 at 16:50 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> I have a customer who FINALLY agreed to have me upgrade
> his Fedora 32 server to 36.

Since I've seen no-one suggest this:  Do they have a spare PC?

Set up a new server with a new install, run in parallel until you're
sure it's ready to take over.  I did that the last time I replaced a
server.  Far less pain than trying dual-booting, virtual machines, etc.

F32 is quite a while back, new hardware might be a good thing, too.

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Re: 32-->36?

2022-08-01 Thread George N. White III
On Mon, Aug 1, 2022 at 10:04 AM ToddAndMargo via users <
users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:

> The server is pretty simple.  The only two biggies are Samba and vsftp
>

"Little" things too often cause big problems -- they may not get much
scrutiny.  Samba has
had changes that break existing use cases so some advanced testing could be
helpful.

I would cast a wide net checking for bug reports across multiple distros,
and look at debian unstable
changelogs for patches. Debian gets bug reports from Ubuntu's large user
base (and maybe google
as well) so their changelogs are useful indicators of potential problems.

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Re: 32-->36?

2022-08-01 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 1 Aug 2022 06:04:14 -0700
ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

> The server is pretty simple.  The only two
> biggies are Samba and vsftp

I suspect samba may cause problems. Somewhere in that time frame
(I think) a major release of samba came along and they removed
support for things they claimed were "insecure". It was a couple
of years before I figured out how to make a share that didn't
require a password for use on my local lan :-).

(I had to wait for the info to wind up on google searchable
web pages so I had an example to copy because the actual docs were
totally impenetrable, who would imagine "map to guest = Bad User"
would be the key to allowing anonymous access to work).
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Re: 32-->36?

2022-08-01 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

The server is pretty simple.  The only two
biggies are Samba and vsftp
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Re: 32-->36?

2022-08-01 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

On 8/1/22 04:38, George N. White III wrote:

Then you are missing security updates.  In my circle
of colleagues, many working for large enterprises,
IT will not permit that.


As has been said, your operating system is boiler
plate stable if it runs your applications properly.

RHEL's claim to fame is that it locks down the
code, so update don't break things.  And
the lock down include a lot of security updates
too.  I have reported them and got ignored.

So, if you want stability of never having to
worry about an update breaking things, don't
update.  You can do this with any operating
system.  If all depends on what your need are.

I do PCI (Payment Card Industry) consulting
as well as a ton of other things.  PCI
required you run a "supported" operating system.
This is to get security updates.  It is
a double edged sword.  I have had customers
tell me that M$'s updates have caused more
damage to their businesses than all the viruses
they ever caught.

So there is on one answer to this.  It depends
on your needs.

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Re: 32-->36?

2022-08-01 Thread Lily White

This is reasonable. My suggestion would be

1. keep the original installation, create a snapshot of current configs 
and installed packages.

2. If possible, use a new server, or use a VM, to install F36.
3. Import the package and configs, fix everything that don't work
4. When most obvious problems are fixed, gradually move production to 
F36. (For example, night-time traffic go to F36, etc.)
5. After a while gradually move all production traffic to F36, keeping 
F32 intact (and update relevant databases with a script from F36) . If 
something breaks, immediately redirect traffic to F32.

6. When you are absolutely sure that everything's okay, move F36 there.


On 7/31/22 9:55 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Sun, 31 Jul 2022 09:46:39 -0400
Go Canes wrote:


If you use a VM for the test-run
you could use snapshots


I always install a new fedora on a VM then after I like it, rsync
the VM to a disk partition, fix a few UUIDs and such in various
config files, then boot to it using the grub "configfile" option.
(Works with BIOS installs, probably more difficult with EFI).

I get to do the initial install and configure without taking the
system down by using a VM.
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Re: VLC could not decode the format "h264" (H264 - MPEG-4 AVC (part 10))

2022-08-01 Thread Javier Perez
Hi. How do I do that?

On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 5:35 PM Mr Brian Domenick 
wrote:

> Did you try shutting off hardware decoding. i vaguely remember some
> issue I had with h264 and the settings were very finicky recently.
>
> Brian
>
> On 7/31/22 3:29 PM, John Pilkington wrote:
> > On 31/07/2022 17:56, Javier Perez wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi
> >> Just upgraded from F35 to F36.
> >> What plugin do I have to add in order to play this codec?
> >
> > I'm still with F35 and vlc has no trouble with this codec, the
> > standard for DVB-T2 broadcasting here.
> >
> > rpm -qa | grep -i vlc shows vlc and vlc-core, both at 3.0.17.2-1
> >
> > IIRC vlc doesn't use external codecs.  I don't think ffmpeg is required.
> >
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Re: 32-->36?

2022-08-01 Thread George N. White III
On Mon, Aug 1, 2022 at 2:34 AM ToddAndMargo via users <
users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:

> On 7/31/22 06:56, James Szinger wrote:
>
> I used RHEL cones for years.  They DROVE ME CRAZY.
> RHEL locked in older versions of code, bugs and
> all.  Things never improved.   And Red hat
> is very difficult to get to fix anything unless
> you put one of them on your payroll, which no
> individual or small business can do.
>

I used RH at home when you purchased a CD-ROM, and
at work from late 1990's for a couple decades.  In my experience,
RH were good about backporting bug fixes, but if you needed
a newer version of some library you had to build it yourself, and
often the library targeted newer toolchains, so you had to install
a devtoolset to get current tools.

>
> I upgraded to Fedroa and I still am tickled
> when I start it.  And it has been sevarl
> years.   EVERYTHING WORKS (well almost).
>

I use Fedora to check apps I developed for potential issues
which can be changes in tools and libraries as well as
libraries that have been dropped.  I also use it for the
mission-critical ESA and NASA apps used to prepare
inputs for my apps to make sure my apps handle
the constant stream of changes in those apps.

Most of my colleagues outside N. America use Ubuntu,
but Fedora is popular in organizations that were using
CentOS on their servers (and are now looking for an
alternative to CentOS).

I set up Fedora (as a) server by first just
> installing Xfce from Live Xfce.  Then I install
> whatever server software I need.
>
> And if you want to pull a RHEL with Fedora,
> just don't upgrade it.
>

Then you are missing security updates.  In my circle
of colleagues, many working for large enterprises,
IT will not permit that.

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Re: 32-->36?

2022-08-01 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

On 7/30/22 16:50, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

Hi All,

I have a customer who FINALLY agreed to have me upgrade
his Fedora 32 server to 36.

Can I jump directly, or do I have to go one or
two revisions at a time?

Many thanks,
-T





Thank you all!
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Re: 32-->36?

2022-08-01 Thread Roberto Ragusa

On 7/31/22 01:50, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

Hi All,

I have a customer who FINALLY agreed to have me upgrade
his Fedora 32 server to 36.

Can I jump directly, or do I have to go one or
two revisions at a time?

Many thanks,



Done the same recently, one step each time: 32->33->34->35->36.
But it was a desktop, a lot more complex than a server.
In your case 32->34->36 is an option.

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Re: Nvidia refresh rate.

2022-08-01 Thread Barry


> On 31 Jul 2022, at 13:07, GianPiero Puccioni  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I want to decrease the refrash rate of the video to use less battery but I am
> having difficulties...
> 
> I have F35 with KDE on a Dell G15 with Nvidia GA107M [GeForce RTX 3050 Ti
> Mobile], the RPMFusion drivers and a  1920x1080  resolution (native).
> 
> In the "system settings-display" There is the possibility to change refresh 
> from
> 120Hz to 60Hz but it doesn't stick; I change it and "apply" but if I change
> screen and go back to "display" it's again at 120Hz, I tried "nvidia-settings"
> but it has only info, not settings.
> The program "xrandr" reports
>   1920x1080120.00*+  59.9759.9659.93
> 
> Is this the problem 59.97 not 60?

That is usual, it’s called 60 but is in fact the NTSC refresh rate.
It’s offset from 60Hz to avoid flicker effects from lighting I understand.

Barry

> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> G
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