Re: Qemu-kvm and Windows-11 22H2 upgrade problems
On Thu, 2022-10-06 at 10:15 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > I work on MacOS too. MacOS is just weird for > the sake of weirdness with no practical purpose > in mind. And the Menu Bar at the top is just > beyond stupid. Of all the myriad of Linux > GUI's, not a one does stupid, weird stuff > like MacOS. I tend to agree, if you mean the idea that all applications use the one common menu bar instead of having their own menu bar in their own window. It's weird, and frequently inconvenient. I definitely hate the Windows start button down the bottom, moving the mouse upwards and across to pick something is super awkward. Never mind the let's dump everything in one randomly organised menu, no sub- menus. And back in the ball-mouse days, upwards was their most inaccurate movement. Ignoring that, it was also the most accident prone, as you moved the mouse up there was a good chance you'd bump into something on the desk and it'd cause you to click the mouse button (or it'd hit the mouse button). At least when pulling the mouse down, you're moving the mouse away from anything on the desk. I still use a Mac for one thing only: Video editing with Final Cut Pro (a wanky name if there ever was one). I'd used Windows editing applications, but Windows has always been so flakey, the applications no better, and the box made from randomly cobbled together hardware doesn't help. At least a Mac system was designed as an ensemble, you shouldn't have to fight with your system about sound and video card incompatibilities. I wish I could do video editing on Linux, but the native editing apps are far too primitive (and I'm not even trying to do special effects). DaVince Resolve is supposed to have a Linux version that works well, but I don't have a beefy graphics card, so it won't even run (I'm semi- retired now, so can't justify splashing out on expensive hardware that isn't going to used on enough paying jobs to earn its keep). -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.76.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Aug 10 16:21:17 UTC 2022 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Qemu-kvm and Windows-11 22H2 upgrade problems
On Thu, 2022-10-06 at 16:30 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > A lot of the current yoof don't have computers but do have smartphones. > Recently I was speaking to a family member who teaches music at a local > college. He described how his students send him messages: > > * Write message on paper > * Place paper on some uniform background (e.g. their jeans) > * Open Instagram > * Take photo > * Share Instagram photo with correspondent > > Words fail me. They can't even open the camera app without using > Instagram :-) I can sort of understand it, it's designed around sharing pictures. Other things, like SMS reduce it to a blur, and we still have carriers that charge per message. In the sense that if he wanted them to send sheet music that makes sense (a large detailed image). But if it's just three lines of text like a handwritten SMS, that's just so daft. But I know where you're coming from. I remember being aghast that people thought Hotmail was the way email was done (later it'd be Yahoo, then Gmail, web interfaces). None of them had seen a real email client, so they couldn't understand the benefits. They can only grasp a tiny portion of what to do with various applications. I can't convince a friend to stop using the webmail interface for his ISP's mail service. It's terrible at handling attachments. He leaves everything in the inbox, years worth of useless stuff, only deleting a little bit to allow a new message to come in, but the mailbox is usually completely full when you try to email him. I tried to get someone else to get a music score PDF from my website. I told him the address, he kept saying it wasn't working. He wasn't typing the address in his browser's address bar, he was typing it into Google's search bar. And Google wasn't automatically sorting it out for him, probably one letter typo so it searches for something similar rather than fail with a useful error message. There are sections of my sites that use the norobot header, so Google hasn't indexed all of it, therefore it won't find some particular things for you if you give it an incorrect address. There's a large lack of comprehension. Like you mentioned, people thought MacOS was better for the clueless. But really it's just far less options for how you deal with it. If you don't understand what's involved, you're still floundering about. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.76.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Aug 10 16:21:17 UTC 2022 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Qemu-kvm and Windows-11 22H2 upgrade problems
On Thu, 2022-10-06 at 10:37 -0600, Joe Zeff wrote: > Not to try to one-up you, but I once saw a tech support rep that had > about a dozen things open, all maximized. Instead of looking at the > taskbar to find the one he needed, he was minimizing them one by one > until he found the right one. I didn't say a word, just walked away, > happy that I wasn't in management and didn't have to try to teach him > the easy way. Many years ago I visited one of our local television stations. Back in the analogue days, master control *used* to be the epitome of organisation. A person sat at a desk, monitoring things, with his checklist of what to do when, occasionally pressing a button to prepare the next thing. Issuing instructions to tape operators occasionally, but usually they did what was needed by themselves, and they had the required tapes loaded and cued in advance. This time it was computerised. One person was running everything from one PC. It controlled a robot arm picking from array of tapes sitting on special shelves, loading them into one of a few machines, ready to be triggered at the right moment by the automation centre. How automated was it? He had a screen full of little windows, like he was playing solitaire, for the controllers. All overlapping because there were more than would fit on the screen, he was shuffling them around all over the place all the time, to get to the thing he needed to tweak. And he was constantly setting up the next thing, manually. The only thing being done automatically was sending the play command to the right machine when the last one reached its out point. Long before that they were the first station to be automated in the analogue days. It could run the whole station unattended, if need be (you laced up the reel-to-reel players, it controlled them by itself, it fully controlled the Ampex cassette recorder used for short spots, which had a couple of dozen carts in its carousel, if I remember correctly). Which it did once, for a while, when the master operator decided to go out to a party and leave it to its own devices. Naturally something broke down in his absence. But five minutes of that window shuffling would have sent me postal, heck knows how many hours he would be on shift. So much for getting the computer to do all the work for him. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.76.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Aug 10 16:21:17 UTC 2022 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: some PDFs fail to render using okular/evince/zathura on FC36
On Thu Oct06'22 07:55:42AM, Community Support for Fedora Users wrote: > From: stan via users > > I'm naive about pdf troubleshooting, but can you try sending yourself a > document that when you download it works properly? That is, can you > find a pdf somewhere that works fine when you grab it from fedora, but > doesn't work fine if it is sent to you via email. Without a way to > reproduce the problem consistently and tell whether it is the program or > the sending that is causing the problem, it is going to be very > difficult to track down. > > So, I did a little search on this problem, a learning experience. > Turns out that there are many different kinds of pdfs. Who knew? Some > links. > > https://support.veeva.com/hc/en-us/articles/4411930373019-What-is-PDF-A-and-How-to-Troubleshoot-Common-PDF-A-Rendering-Issues- > > https://community.adobe.com/t5/indesign-discussions/problem-rendering-pdf/td-p/10263045 > > https://windowsreport.com/failed-to-load-pdf-document/ > > https://www.inkit.com/blog/common-html-into-pdf-rendering-problems > > https://stackoverflow.com/questions/15858199/how-to-troubleshoot-badly-rendered-pdf-file > > After looking at those, I think the problem is that someone is > configuring their pdf in ways that are incompatible with the readers > you have. Why does it work in the phone? It could be that they are > using tools from google to create the pdf, and the phone uses the tools > provided by google to view the pdf, tuned to work with the creation > tools, so the errors aren't evident. > _ Thanks for the detailed response. When I save the document and open with evince, I get: Unable to open document: file://home/..././51214686.pdf Failed to read the document catalog pdffonts (from the stackoverflow page) gives: $ pdffonts ./51214686.pdf Syntax Error: Couldn't find trailer dictionary Syntax Error: Catalog object is wrong type (null) Syntax Error: Couldn't find trailer dictionary Internal Error: xref num -1 not found but needed, try to reconstruct<0a> Syntax Error: Couldn't find trailer dictionary Syntax Error: Couldn't find trailer dictionary Syntax Error: Catalog object is wrong type (null) Syntax Error: Couldn't read page catalog Further $ file 51214686.pdf 51214686.pdf: PDF document, version 1.5 Not quite sure how to troubleshoot this. Many thanks, and best wishes, Ranjan ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Qemu-kvm and Windows-11 22H2 upgrade problems
On 10/6/22 08:30, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: You often hear that MacOS is easier. My experience is that it's not. More reliable certainly (it's based on UNIX after all), but people with no mental model of what's actually happening still have trouble with it. I work on MacOS too. MacOS is just weird for the sake of weirdness with no practical purpose in mind. And the Menu Bar at the top is just beyond stupid. Of all the myriad of Linux GUI's, not a one does stupid, weird stuff like MacOS. (gNome can be a bit weird a times though.) Most MacOS customer of mine and most home customers as well would be far better served with a tablet. My worst MacOS customer was one with an expensive giant screen, she had a little home office network that I set up for her and her employees. When finished with everything, I created a document in her Documents folder with all her accounts and passwords for the firewall, etc.. A few weeks later she called me up all pissed off at me because she could not log into something. I reminded her of the document. She got even more pissed, so I pulled it up for her to show her. She took a picture of it with her cell phone. She spent all that money on an Apple and could not even open a document. Other than graphic designers that use MacOS to great effect, I do not see any other user using MacOS for anything other than surfing the web and eMail. I do not even see them write recipes. A tablet would be a ton cheaper. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Qemu-kvm and Windows-11 22H2 upgrade problems
On 10/6/22 08:53, Tim via users wrote: I've seen plenty who can't look at two files, they have to open one, read it, close it, open the other file. Not to try to one-up you, but I once saw a tech support rep that had about a dozen things open, all maximized. Instead of looking at the taskbar to find the one he needed, he was minimizing them one by one until he found the right one. I didn't say a word, just walked away, happy that I wasn't in management and didn't have to try to teach him the easy way. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Qemu-kvm and Windows-11 22H2 upgrade problems
On Fri, 2022-10-07 at 01:23 +1030, Tim via users wrote: > On Thu, 2022-10-06 at 06:29 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > > The difference between the technology and quality > > of Fedora and Windows will make your head spin. > > As I have stated before, I wish I had more > > Linux customers. Linux is just fun to work on. > > Windows is such a house of cards. And I am > > FULLY AWARE that I would not have a job if it > > was not for M$'s poor quality. > > I used to un-munge people's windows boxes, but got out of that game > when I got into Linux. I tell them I don't do it any more, and say > it's like being asked to unblock someone's sewer pipes with your bare > hands. > > It's not *just* that the hardware and software shoots itself in the > foot from time to time, which most definitely does, people *also* do > daft things with it. > > A very large part of the problem is that it's foisted upon people (at > work) with no aptitude for computing, and possibly managed by one of > them as well. And it's little different for home users. I don't > know > why people with no interest in computing get themselves a home PC. > > Even those who don't stuff it up are so inept at using it that they > barely use any of the features, and use things in the most convoluted > and awkward manners. I've seen plenty who can't look at two files, > they have to open one, read it, close it, open the other file. They > can't manage to have two windows open, nor even know that they can. > And those who can't copy and paste, they open a webpage, save it as a > file, close the browser, open their word processor, load the page, > spend ages trying to edit the bit they want. Then if they want more > info, they go through whole shenanigans again (quit wordprocessor, > open > browser, safe, quit browser, start word processor, etc). It's like > watching someone bash a square peg into a round hole. Getting a bit OT but here goes: You often hear that MacOS is easier. My experience is that it's not. More reliable certainly (it's based on UNIX after all), but people with no mental model of what's actually happening still have trouble with it. A lot of the current yoof don't have computers but do have smartphones. Recently I was speaking to a family member who teaches music at a local college. He described how his students send him messages: * Write message on paper * Place paper on some uniform background (e.g. their jeans) * Open Instagram * Take photo * Share Instagram photo with correspondent Words fail me. They can't even open the camera app without using Instagram :-) poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: some PDFs fail to render using okular/evince/zathura on FC36
On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 23:35:57 -0500 Ranjan Maitra wrote: > Dear friends, > > Over the past few months, I have noticed that some PDF documents do > not render on Fedora 36 using zathura, evince or okular. The PDF > document, however renders fine on my phone. All of them are PDF, > version 1.5, and they were sent to me by email, which I read using > mutt. > > What could be wrong and how could I trouble-shoot/fix this? Note that > I can read many other PDFs using the same mailer, so there is > something different with some PDFs (received by email) and read by > using mutt. I'm naive about pdf troubleshooting, but can you try sending yourself a document that when you download it works properly? That is, can you find a pdf somewhere that works fine when you grab it from fedora, but doesn't work fine if it is sent to you via email. Without a way to reproduce the problem consistently and tell whether it is the program or the sending that is causing the problem, it is going to be very difficult to track down. So, I did a little search on this problem, a learning experience. Turns out that there are many different kinds of pdfs. Who knew? Some links. https://support.veeva.com/hc/en-us/articles/4411930373019-What-is-PDF-A-and-How-to-Troubleshoot-Common-PDF-A-Rendering-Issues- https://community.adobe.com/t5/indesign-discussions/problem-rendering-pdf/td-p/10263045 https://windowsreport.com/failed-to-load-pdf-document/ https://www.inkit.com/blog/common-html-into-pdf-rendering-problems https://stackoverflow.com/questions/15858199/how-to-troubleshoot-badly-rendered-pdf-file After looking at those, I think the problem is that someone is configuring their pdf in ways that are incompatible with the readers you have. Why does it work in the phone? It could be that they are using tools from google to create the pdf, and the phone uses the tools provided by google to view the pdf, tuned to work with the creation tools, so the errors aren't evident. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Qemu-kvm and Windows-11 22H2 upgrade problems
On Thu, 2022-10-06 at 06:29 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > The difference between the technology and quality > of Fedora and Windows will make your head spin. > As I have stated before, I wish I had more > Linux customers. Linux is just fun to work on. > Windows is such a house of cards. And I am > FULLY AWARE that I would not have a job if it > was not for M$'s poor quality. I used to un-munge people's windows boxes, but got out of that game when I got into Linux. I tell them I don't do it any more, and say it's like being asked to unblock someone's sewer pipes with your bare hands. It's not *just* that the hardware and software shoots itself in the foot from time to time, which most definitely does, people *also* do daft things with it. A very large part of the problem is that it's foisted upon people (at work) with no aptitude for computing, and possibly managed by one of them as well. And it's little different for home users. I don't know why people with no interest in computing get themselves a home PC. Even those who don't stuff it up are so inept at using it that they barely use any of the features, and use things in the most convoluted and awkward manners. I've seen plenty who can't look at two files, they have to open one, read it, close it, open the other file. They can't manage to have two windows open, nor even know that they can. And those who can't copy and paste, they open a webpage, save it as a file, close the browser, open their word processor, load the page, spend ages trying to edit the bit they want. Then if they want more info, they go through whole shenanigans again (quit wordprocessor, open browser, safe, quit browser, start word processor, etc). It's like watching someone bash a square peg into a round hole. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.76.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Aug 10 16:21:17 UTC 2022 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: latest kernel for Fedora 35?
One more related question - is it possible to run a mac/osx VM with KVM? I do this today with VMWare and the osx unlocker On 10/6/22 08:27, Sbob wrote: Thanks I'll have another look On 10/5/22 17:20, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Sbob writes: I think I tried this awhile back and found that KVM VM's only work with wired network connections on the host and not wifi, is this still true? News to me, and the VM running Windows 10, on this laptop. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: latest kernel for Fedora 35?
Thanks I'll have another look On 10/5/22 17:20, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Sbob writes: I think I tried this awhile back and found that KVM VM's only work with wired network connections on the host and not wifi, is this still true? News to me, and the VM running Windows 10, on this laptop. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Qemu-kvm and Windows-11 22H2 upgrade problems
On 10/6/22 05:37, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2022-10-06 at 05:16 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Did I hear back up? In Windows you can only reliability back up your data, not your programs. "What serial number?" "I don't have a password?" You have to reinstall everything from scratch and you need all their keys and serial numbers or they have to repurchase everything. I have to ask: what is the customer's disaster planning, e.g. if the machine is physically damaged and unrecoverable? poc It varies wildly between the customer. "If" (it takes a while for them to trust you) I can talk them into backing up their stuff, I create a directory called "C:\Drivers" where I put all their serial numbers, key, source code, etc. for all the programs they have me install. And if they give me permission, I have an encrypted locker at my business that I put their stuff into as well. I started this when I got tired of telling folks I did not know what their WiFI password was. You would not believe the customers that lose computers because they thought I was selling them a disgronificator when recommending a UPS power supply. Same with backup. I back up their data. For those that are hermetically irresponsible on such things, I put them on Carbonite. If you have no experience with Windows, some of the Micky Mouse involved in recovering things is going to strike you are me pulling a fast one you. But with Windows it is better to start over fresh and reinstall things than to try to recover after a hard drive crash. There are just too many things that go wrong with Windows over time. The difference between the technology and quality of Fedora and Windows will make your head spin. As I have stated before, I wish I had more Linux customers. Linux is just fun to work on. Windows is such a house of cards. And I am FULLY AWARE that I would not have a job if it was not for M$'s poor quality. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Qemu-kvm and Windows-11 22H2 upgrade problems
On Thu, 2022-10-06 at 05:16 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > > Did I hear back up? > > In Windows you can only reliability back up your > data, not your programs. "What serial number?" > "I don't have a password?" You have to reinstall > everything from scratch and you need all their keys > and serial numbers or they have to repurchase > everything. I have to ask: what is the customer's disaster planning, e.g. if the machine is physically damaged and unrecoverable? poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Qemu-kvm and Windows-11 22H2 upgrade problems
On 10/6/22 04:52, Meng Huang wrote: Also had problem upgrading, for me after windows update reboot it goes black and refuse to boot again. A fresh install of 22h2 iso works fine I had that too. I just forced killed from the console and started it again and it went through. I have repeated this about six times in all my testing. I had thought of doing a fresh install, but I can not give that solution to my customers as it would kill all their intellectual data on their machines and they'd have to start over. Did I hear back up? In Windows you can only reliability back up your data, not your programs. "What serial number?" "I don't have a password?" You have to reinstall everything from scratch and you need all their keys and serial numbers or they have to repurchase everything. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Qemu-kvm and Windows-11 22H2 upgrade problems
Also had problem upgrading, for me after windows update reboot it goes black and refuse to boot again. A fresh install of 22h2 iso works fine On Thu, Oct 6, 2022, at 7:45 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Hi All, > > Fedora 36 > qemu-kvm-6.2.0-15.fc36.x86_64 > Windows 11 Pro > > Any of you guys having troubles upgrading Windows-11 > build 21H2 to 22H2 on qemu-kvm? > > I am upgrading from the ISO: > https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download > /windows11 > > using the US English version: > Win11_22H2_English_x64.iso > > The install goes all the way through the process and > when It does its final reboot, it throws the "Installation > failed in SAFE_OS phase with an error during BOOT > operation 0xC1900101 0x20017". > > According to > > https://www.yourwindowsguide.com/2021/08/troubleshoot-windows-11-upgrade-failures.html > > the log file for SafeOS errors is: > >C:\$Windows.~BT\Sources\Panther: File named >Setupact.log records actions in the downlevel >and SafeOS phase. As the log can be very >large, setup also creates a file named >“Setuperr.log” that only has information >about the errors encountered by the Setup >to narrow the source of the problem. > > And from the same reference: > >Error Code Troubleshooting > >C1900101-20017 A driver has caused an illegal >operation. Make sure all unnecessary devices >are disconnected except the keyboard and mouse. >Remove any 3rd party anti-virus.Make sure BIOS >firmware is updated on the motherboard. > > which means there is a problem with a driver. I removed everything > except the keyboard and mouse. No joy. > > And I can't find anything in the logs either. > > It also begs the issue of why 21H2 is "safe" and 22H2 > is not. > > Any of you experiencing this? If so, how did you > work around it? > > Many thanks, > -T > > p.s. Ya, I know 'Windows is like that". Wish > I did not have to use it but 98% of my customers > have it and I can't find an any Linux customers > that are not of my own making. And I have to > feed my family. > > -- > > Yesterday it worked. > Today it is not working. > Windows is like that. > > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue > Meng Huang ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Qemu-kvm and Windows-11 22H2 upgrade problems
Hi All, Fedora 36 qemu-kvm-6.2.0-15.fc36.x86_64 Windows 11 Pro Any of you guys having troubles upgrading Windows-11 build 21H2 to 22H2 on qemu-kvm? I am upgrading from the ISO: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download /windows11 using the US English version: Win11_22H2_English_x64.iso The install goes all the way through the process and when It does its final reboot, it throws the "Installation failed in SAFE_OS phase with an error during BOOT operation 0xC1900101 0x20017". According to https://www.yourwindowsguide.com/2021/08/troubleshoot-windows-11-upgrade-failures.html the log file for SafeOS errors is: C:\$Windows.~BT\Sources\Panther: File named Setupact.log records actions in the downlevel and SafeOS phase. As the log can be very large, setup also creates a file named “Setuperr.log” that only has information about the errors encountered by the Setup to narrow the source of the problem. And from the same reference: Error Code Troubleshooting C1900101-20017 A driver has caused an illegal operation. Make sure all unnecessary devices are disconnected except the keyboard and mouse. Remove any 3rd party anti-virus.Make sure BIOS firmware is updated on the motherboard. which means there is a problem with a driver. I removed everything except the keyboard and mouse. No joy. And I can't find anything in the logs either. It also begs the issue of why 21H2 is "safe" and 22H2 is not. Any of you experiencing this? If so, how did you work around it? Many thanks, -T p.s. Ya, I know 'Windows is like that". Wish I did not have to use it but 98% of my customers have it and I can't find an any Linux customers that are not of my own making. And I have to feed my family. -- Yesterday it worked. Today it is not working. Windows is like that. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
