Re: Alternative to VLC
Tim: >> It really bogs down the PC, I've got little chance to open a terminal. >> You could hammer away on VLC's close gadget and not get noticed. I >> nearly always have to kill X with CTRL ALT BACKSPACE as about the only >> way to deal with it. ToddAndMargo: > Try > > do a ps and a kill -9 > > Then to get back When I say it bogs down the PC, it *REALLY* bogs it down. Far worse than when an app went mad with the swap space. If I don't CTRL ALT BACKSPACE fast, that's it, I won't be able to do anything with the keyboard, and hardly anything with the mouse, I'll have to hit the hardware reset button. It rapid-fire tries to reload an unplayable file, in an infinite loop, and everything suffers. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.88.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Mar 7 15:41:52 UTC 2023 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: How do I do a group reinstall of Xfce?
On Sun, 2023-04-09 at 15:34 -0500, Ron Flory via users wrote: > Hopefully reactivating an old thread whose reply does not work with FC37... > > I have an x86 FC37 XFCE-spin whose GUI setups had a kind of creeping > death, then went bonkers. > > I'd like to force-reinstall XFCE completely (no desire to save any > X/XFCE configs- would like all that re-initialized, like a XFCE-spin > fresh-install (at least for the X-stuff only). Unless you personally messed around with XFCE files outside of your homespace, then none of XFCE should be broken. And a reinstall won't change anything. Your own configuration is within your own homespace. You can test this by creating a completely new user, and see if that behaves as expected. Then if that's the case, you can hunt down your ~/.config/xfce4/ config files and remove them, resetting your own account configurations. If XFCE has broken files, and *you* didn't do it, then you may have a hard drive failure. Replacing it is the answer to that. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.88.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Mar 7 15:41:52 UTC 2023 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Alternative to VLC
On 4/9/23 18:51, Slade Watkins via users wrote: On Apr 8, 2023, at 6:04 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: VLC can play a lot of stuff, but the player has so, so many bugs in it that I am thinking it is time to give up on VLC. Parole seems to work okay. You guys have a favorite sub for VLC? I use Parole in place of VLC when it doesn’t work for me — and it’s quite good. Would recommend it! Slade I have been using Parole and SMplayer. Both do what I want pretty nicely! Thank you! What in the world is VLC thinking??? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Alternative to VLC
> On Apr 8, 2023, at 6:04 AM, ToddAndMargo via users > wrote: > > VLC can play a lot of stuff, but the player > has so, so many bugs in it that I am thinking > it is time to give up on VLC. Parole seems to > work okay. > > You guys have a favorite sub for VLC? I use Parole in place of VLC when it doesn’t work for me — and it’s quite good. Would recommend it! Slade ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: How do I do a group reinstall of Xfce?
that would be a bad thing, but you misunderstand- force 'install' (ala 'rpm' command), even if already installed... I see now that dnf supports 'reinstall'. ron On 4/9/2023 6:20 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 4/9/23 14:51, Ron Flory via users wrote: (I wonder why/when dnf removed their "-force" switch (for install) ?) dnf never had a "force" option, just rpm. Why do you need it? What would it do? Do you really want it to remove itself? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: How do I do a group reinstall of Xfce?
On 4/9/23 14:51, Ron Flory via users wrote: (I wonder why/when dnf removed their "-force" switch (for install) ?) dnf never had a "force" option, just rpm. Why do you need it? What would it do? Do you really want it to remove itself? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Alternative to VLC
On 4/9/23 02:37, Tim via users wrote: Tim: I can only say I've noticed one bug with VLC: If you have repeat play on and try to play a broken file it'll deadloop with very heavy CPU use, and it's nearly impossible to make it quit. Joe Zeff: kill -9 should do it. It really bogs down the PC, I've got little chance to open a terminal. You could hammer away on VLC's close gadget and not get noticed. I nearly always have to kill X with CTRL ALT BACKSPACE as about the only way to deal with it. Try do a ps and a kill -9 Then to get back ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: How do I do a group reinstall of Xfce?
On Sun, 2023-04-09 at 15:34 -0500, Ron Flory via users wrote: > I'd like to force-reinstall XFCE completely (no desire to save any > X/XFCE configs- would like all that re-initialized, like a XFCE-spin > fresh-install (at least for the X-stuff only). Your per-user config won't be affected by a reinstall. If you don't want to keep it, you should delete the appropriate directory under ~/.config (I don't use XFCE but probably ~/.config/XFCE or similar). poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: How do I do a group reinstall of Xfce?
yes, also tried startxfce4 (which I imagine startx also indirectly calls). both act the same, and same xfc* processes are running. No good. XFCE display is just 'not right', and most gui apps refuse to allow resize, etc. Interestingly, the xscreensaver (with password prompt) seems to look just fine. Somehow, i expect the XFCE/FC37-specific configs just aren't being restored. I also deleted all ~/.configs/xfce4* files, etc before XFCE removal and reinstall. Perhaps this extends into the base X11 stuff as well? (I wonder why/when dnf removed their "-force" switch (for install) ?) ron On 4/9/2023 4:11 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 04/09/2023 02:34 PM, Ron Flory via users wrote: Note: I start FC37 in text-mode (lightdm), and only run X when I need it by running 'startx'. First, you should really be using startxfce4, but if startx works, it's not important. Second, are you doing this in text mode, without ever having started Xfce? If not, try it that way as it might make a difference. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: How do I do a group reinstall of Xfce?
On 04/09/2023 02:34 PM, Ron Flory via users wrote: Note: I start FC37 in text-mode (lightdm), and only run X when I need it by running 'startx'. First, you should really be using startxfce4, but if startx works, it's not important. Second, are you doing this in text mode, without ever having started Xfce? If not, try it that way as it might make a difference. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: How do I do a group reinstall of Xfce?
Hopefully reactivating an old thread whose reply does not work with FC37... I have an x86 FC37 XFCE-spin whose GUI setups had a kind of creeping death, then went bonkers. I'd like to force-reinstall XFCE completely (no desire to save any X/XFCE configs- would like all that re-initialized, like a XFCE-spin fresh-install (at least for the X-stuff only). I tried some online suggestions, but XFCE is still not right, the background image does not show (only black screen), the 'pager' does not work (only 1 page is shown when there it says there should be 8 workspaces). also, desktop and progs are not remembered when i leave/restart the session. Attempting to reinstall from thread and online-article suggestions; one problem is that running the suggested: dnf groupremove 'Xfce Desktop' Results in a dnf error about it would result in removing dnf and sudo. using the suggested '--skip-broken' does not work. Note: I start FC37 in text-mode (lightdm), and only run X when I need it by running 'startx'. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Warning for KDE users with HiDPI displays
On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 14:59:43 -0400 Go Canes wrote: > According to my system, 5.27.3 is in updates, 5.27.4 is in > updates-testing (at least for Fedora 36). Right: 5.27.4 is in updates for Fedora 37, not for 36. -- francis ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Warning for KDE users with HiDPI displays
On Sun, Apr 9, 2023 at 1:35 PM wrote: > On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 08:48:39 -0400 Go Canes wrote: >> 5.27.3 appears to fix the issue (so far). 5.27.4 is in >> updates-testing, so it should be released in the next few weeks. > > I think 5.27.4 is already in the updates, at least for the plasma-desktop > and plasma-workspace RPMs: > > Build Date : Wed 05 Apr 2023 12:17:51 PM CEST > > and they appeared in the updates on April 7. > > Am I missing something ? On what precise RPM do you refer to ? [x@y ~]$ sudo dnf --enablerepo=updates-testing list plasma-workspace Fedora 36 - x86_64 - Test Updates22 kB/s | 9.2 kB 00:00 Fedora 36 - x86_64 - Test Updates 485 kB/s | 946 kB 00:01 Last metadata expiration check: 0:00:02 ago on Sun 09 Apr 2023 02:57:27 PM EDT. Installed Packages plasma-workspace.x86_64 5.27.3-2.fc36 @updates Available Packages plasma-workspace.i686 5.27.4.1-1.fc36 updates-testing plasma-workspace.x86_64 5.27.4.1-1.fc36 updates-testing [x@y ~]$ According to my system, 5.27.3 is in updates, 5.27.4 is in updates-testing (at least for Fedora 36). ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Warning for KDE users with HiDPI displays
Hi. On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 08:48:39 -0400 Go Canes wrote: > On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 10:11 AM Go Canes wrote: >> I "dnf updated" today and it took my system to KDE Plasma 5.27.1, and >> there is an issue with scaling on HiDPI displays. > 5.27.3 appears to fix the issue (so far). 5.27.4 is in > updates-testing, so it should be released in the next few weeks. I think 5.27.4 is already in the updates, at least for the plasma-desktop and plasma-workspace RPMs: Build Date : Wed 05 Apr 2023 12:17:51 PM CEST and they appeared in the updates on April 7. Am I missing something ? On what precise RPM do you refer to ? -- francis ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Warning for KDE users with HiDPI displays
On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 10:11 AM Go Canes wrote: > > I "dnf updated" today and it took my system to KDE Plasma 5.27.1, and > there is an issue with scaling on HiDPI displays. As near as I can > tell the issue isn't fixed until 5.27.4, but that is not yet available > in updates-testing. There are workarounds, but so far my experience > is they make the system usable, but not "right". 5.27.3 appears to fix the issue (so far). 5.27.4 is in updates-testing, so it should be released in the next few weeks. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Alternative to VLC
On Sat, Apr 08, 2023 at 08:38:17PM -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
I installed SMPlayer. It is a GUI for MPlayer, but
dnf download mvp and mot mplayer, so go figure.
It works though.
smplayer depends on mpv/mplayer. And mpv is based on mplayer.
dnf -C repoquery --deplist smplayer
vlc has one or two features I like. But:
I'm running mpv since ages, after running mplayer before. And even on
Windows I used it ("mpv.exe", IIRC) And never looked back again: mpv's
options to play anything that has video or audio in it are
uncountable. Just have a look at the documentation.
mpv is mostly keyboard-driven - so if someone doesn't like that ...
For me at least this software is a lot easier to handle that any
GUI-based player I know about: e.g. if one wants to play a whole
folder with files in it, all that's needed is:
mpv /path/to/some/folder
to add a window with info about the files it plays, just add
"--force-window" to the previous command. Fullscreen: type "f".
Typing 'i' then gives the specs of the file. Capital "I" makes the
info stay.
And if folks are too lazy to type (I'm nearly always lazy) they can
run mpv with an xbox controller, turned with a nice driver (xboxdrv)
into a remote control.
--
Wolfgang
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Re: Alternative to VLC
Tim: >> I can only say I've noticed one bug with VLC: If you have repeat play >> on and try to play a broken file it'll deadloop with very heavy CPU >> use, and it's nearly impossible to make it quit. Joe Zeff: > kill -9 should do it. It really bogs down the PC, I've got little chance to open a terminal. You could hammer away on VLC's close gadget and not get noticed. I nearly always have to kill X with CTRL ALT BACKSPACE as about the only way to deal with it. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.88.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Mar 7 15:41:52 UTC 2023 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
