[8086:2e32] black screen instead of Xorg/KDM unless preempt=none mitigations=off

2023-07-19 Thread Felix Miata
# inxi -GxxS
System:
  Host: big41 Kernel: 6.3.12-200.fc38.x86_64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64
compiler: gcc v: 2.39-9.fc38 Console: pty pts/0 DM: 1: KDM 2: XDM
Distro: Fedora release 38 (Thirty Eight)
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel 4 Series Integrated Graphics vendor: Biostar Microtech Intl
Corp driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen-5 ports: active: HDMI-A-1,VGA-1
empty: DP-1 bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:2e32
  Display: server: X.org v: 1.20.14 with: Xwayland v: 22.1.9 driver: X:
loaded: modesetting,vesa unloaded: fbdev gpu: i915
display-ID: 00srv.ij.net:0
  Monitor-1: HDMI-A-1 model: NEC EA243WM res: 1920x1200 dpi: 94
diag: 612mm (24.1")
  Monitor-2: VGA-1 model: Dell P2213 res: 1680x1050 dpi: 90
diag: 558mm (22")
  API: OpenGL Message: GL data unavailable for root.
# dmesg | head -3
[0.00] microcode: updated early: 0xa07 -> 0xa0b, date = 2010-09-28
[0.00] Linux version 6.3.12-200.fc38.x86_64 
(mockbuild@ad82227541134b7bb9538baac1587d1c) (gcc (GCC) 13.1.1 20230614 (Red 
Hat 13.1.1-4), GNU ld version 2.39-9.fc38) #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Thu Jul  6 
04:05:18 UTC 2023
[0.00] Command line: ro root=LABEL=f38p29-cgn ipv6.disable=1 
net.ifnames=0 audit=0 selinux=0 consoleblank=0 preempt=none mitigations=auto
# dmesg | tail -19
[8.569886] pci :00:00.0: Intel G41 Chipset
[8.569904] resource: avoiding allocation from e820 entry [mem 
0xbddf-0xbfff]
[8.569906] resource: remaining [mem 0xc000-0xcfff] 
available
[8.569916] pci :00:00.0: detected gtt size: 2097152K total, 262144K 
mappable
[8.570204] pci :00:00.0: detected 32768K stolen memory
[8.570335] i915 :00:02.0: vgaarb: deactivate vga console
[8.570574] Console: switching to colour dummy device 80x25
[8.634427] [drm] Initialized i915 1.6.0 20201103 for :00:02.0 on minor 0
[8.716724] r8169 :01:00.0 eth0: Link is Up - 1Gbps/Full - flow control 
rx/tx
[8.816457] fbcon: i915drmfb (fb0) is primary device
[8.816627] Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 210x65
[8.816637] i915 :00:02.0: [drm] fb0: i915drmfb frame buffer device
[   20.122370] i915 :00:02.0: [drm] *ERROR* [CRTC:45:pipe A] flip_done 
timed out
[   30.362390] i915 :00:02.0: [drm] *ERROR* [CRTC:60:pipe B] flip_done 
timed out
[   30.362411] i915 :00:02.0: [drm] *ERROR* pipe A underrun
[   41.114370] i915 :00:02.0: [drm] *ERROR* flip_done timed out
[   41.114377] i915 :00:02.0: [drm] *ERROR* [CRTC:45:pipe A] commit wait 
timed out
[   51.354371] i915 :00:02.0: [drm] *ERROR* flip_done timed out
[   51.354378] i915 :00:02.0: [drm] *ERROR* [CRTC:60:pipe B] commit wait 
timed out
#

Same PC, same kernel version, F37 is all as expected.
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Re: wordpress problem

2023-07-19 Thread Richard


> Date: Wednesday, July 19, 2023 19:57:43 -0400
> From: Bill Cunningham 
>
>  I will look into that but one of the first things I do after
> install is install Xfce4 and firefox. And then httpd. I would like
> to get the server just as I want it and create an image to upload
> to GCP, that's my ultimate goal. I will continue to study this
> though.


One does not normally install a graphical desktop environment (and so
also gui applications like firefox) on a server. In part this is
because they shouldn't be needed, but also because they have the
potential of creating greater security issues on what should be a
rather locked down machine given what it's main function is.
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Re: Mount command for ext4 not accepting "--nouser_xattr" option

2023-07-19 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Jul 19, 2023, at 19:44, Robert Nichols  wrote:
> 
> I find that the mount command for an ext4 filesystem is not accepting the 
> "--nouser_xattr" option, despite that being listed as a valid option in the 
> ext4(5) manpage. This appears to be true in both Fedora 37 and 38. Note that 
> the "--user_xattr" option _is_ accepted. When did this change? I have some 
> external disks shared across multiple systems, and I want to keep them free 
> of user xattrs.
> 
> Is this an error in the manpage, or a bug in the mount command itself?
> 
> util-linux-core-2.38.1-4.fc38.x86_64
> e2fsprogs-1.46.5-4.fc38.x86_64

It was removed from the Linux kernel last September:

https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/fs/ext4?id=2d544ec923dbe5fbed64a7f43dccf527218380bc

There are some links to discussion in the commit, but the tl;dr is that it’s 
been deprecated since the 3.5 kernel and someone finally got around to removing 
it.

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Re: wordpress problem

2023-07-19 Thread Bill Cunningham


On 7/18/2023 7:16 PM, Peter Boy wrote:



Am 16.07.2023 um 20:23 schrieb Bill Cunningham :


I definitely want to see your doc article.



I first version is now available:

Installing Wordpress (on Fedora Server Edition)
https://docs.stg.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-server/tutorials/wordpress-installation/


It would be really helpful to get comments, amendments, feedback, corrections!

Please use the issue button using the bug symbol on the right side beyond the 
blue header bar or the edit button next to it. Or write your comments here on 
the mailing list.



Well there are some typos but that's to be expected. I am not complaining. What 
you have written concerning virtualization too is intriguing. I will look into 
that but one of the first things I do after install is install Xfce4 and 
firefox. And then httpd. I would like to get the server just as I want it and 
create an image to upload to GCP, that's my ultimate goal. I will continue to 
study this though.


B

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Mount command for ext4 not accepting "--nouser_xattr" option

2023-07-19 Thread Robert Nichols

I find that the mount command for an ext4 filesystem is not accepting the 
"--nouser_xattr" option, despite that being listed as a valid option in the ext4(5) 
manpage. This appears to be true in both Fedora 37 and 38. Note that the "--user_xattr" 
option _is_ accepted. When did this change? I have some external disks shared across multiple 
systems, and I want to keep them free of user xattrs.

Is this an error in the manpage, or a bug in the mount command itself?

util-linux-core-2.38.1-4.fc38.x86_64
e2fsprogs-1.46.5-4.fc38.x86_64

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Re: fedora 38 cron zenity

2023-07-19 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Jul 19, 2023, at 09:18, Joe Feely via users  
wrote:
> I have a few little scripts that crontab runs. Well it runs the espeak 
> commands but no sign of it running the zenity bits
> 
> In crontab:-
> 0 * * * * ./Joe-drink-water-reminder
> 
> File Joe-drink-water-reminder contains:-
> espeak -a15 -p25 -s160 "Hey, get Joe a drink of water"
> zenity --info --title "Joe and water drinking" --width=850 --height=250 
> --text "drink"
> 
> This works in a terminal with ./Joe-drink-water-reminder (including doing the 
> zenity command), BUT not when cron initiates it (it only does the espeak bit).
> 
> This worked fine in f37 and earlier, just not f38.
> Any pointers (I've "googled" it with no success)

Tasks running in cron are running in a completely different session than your 
graphical login session, so they can’t launch graphical processes (although you 
can sometimes set the righ environment variables to trick it). Audio that 
interacts directly with the sound device will likely work because the user is 
granted access to the device.  I think pipewire and pulseaudio have a socket 
that is well known so that should work too.

You might get a better result by running them in a systemd --user timer unit, 
which I believe will run in your login session.

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Re: startup application

2023-07-19 Thread Barry


> On 19 Jul 2023, at 17:31, Patrick Dupre  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> After the update from fc36 to fc38, I am experiencing a small glitch
> In tweak I set up a Terminal in Startup Applications
> (actually there are 2 applications listed, the other one is started properly).
> On one machine the "terminal" application is never started up when I
> login in graphics mode (it is fine on the other machine [same distribution]).
> 
> Some ideas?

Look in the journal —user for clues?

Barry

> 
> Thanks.
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startup application

2023-07-19 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello,

After the update from fc36 to fc38, I am experiencing a small glitch
In tweak I set up a Terminal in Startup Applications
(actually there are 2 applications listed, the other one is started properly).
On one machine the "terminal" application is never started up when I
login in graphics mode (it is fine on the other machine [same distribution]).

Some ideas?

Thanks.

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Re: fedora 38 cron zenity

2023-07-19 Thread Barry


> On 19 Jul 2023, at 14:18, Joe Feely via users  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I have a few little scripts that crontab runs. Well it runs the espeak 
> commands but no sign of it running the zenity bits
> 
> In crontab:-
> 0 * * * * ./Joe-drink-water-reminder
> 
> File Joe-drink-water-reminder contains:-
> espeak -a15 -p25 -s160 "Hey, get Joe a drink of water"
> zenity --info --title "Joe and water drinking" --width=850 --height=250 
> --text "drink"
> 
> This works in a terminal with ./Joe-drink-water-reminder (including doing the 
> zenity command), BUT not when cron initiates it (it only does the espeak bit).
> 
> This worked fine in f37 and earlier, just not f38.
> Any pointers (I've "googled" it with no success)

In cron the process does not have the DISPLAY or DISPLAY_WAYLAND env var set so 
you cannot open a gui window I expect?

I an a little surprised that sound worked from cron.

Barry

> 
> Thanks,
> Joe 
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fedora 38 cron zenity

2023-07-19 Thread Joe Feely via users
I have a few little scripts that crontab runs. Well it runs the espeak
commands but no sign of it running the zenity bits

In crontab:-
0 * * * * ./Joe-drink-water-reminder

File Joe-drink-water-reminder contains:-
espeak -a15 -p25 -s160 "Hey, get Joe a drink of water"
zenity --info --title "Joe and water drinking" --width=850 --height=250
--text "drink"

This works in a terminal with ./Joe-drink-water-reminder (including doing
the zenity command), BUT not when cron initiates it (it only does the
espeak bit).

This worked fine in f37 and earlier, just not f38.
Any pointers (I've "googled" it with no success)

Thanks,
Joe
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Re: SATA drive rescan?

2023-07-19 Thread Tim via users
Tim:
>> Or had the CMOS battery going flat?

ToddAndMargo:
> Have not noticed my date and time messed up, but ...

I've found that only when a battery was *really* bad that time may be
off.  It could be sufficiently low to be a problem, and your clock
still keeps time.  Especially if your PC supplies mains-derived power
to the BIOS/UEFI when running, and the battery is a back-up rather than
the only supply for it.

There's an often stated claim the BIOSs are designed to run slow when
the power is low, but I don't have faith in that.  I think people are
trying to fit their own explanation into something that happened by
accident.  It may well be that some do that, simply by virtue of how
the circuit behaves rather than being a deliberate effect, but I've got
PCs which kept very good time with a near dead battery (they are
designed to be a really low power consumption device).  When their
batteries did die, the clocks simply resetted to some distant date in
the past, and drive parameters went haywire.

If motherboard manufacturers wanted to make it obvious that you needed
to change a battery, they could have designed the BIOS with a voltage
reading that any OS could easily read without arcane knowledge, and
your OS could pop up a warning which told you what was needed.

Expecting the masses of computer illiterate to know that the clock
being off might mean you need to change a battery, rather than them
just writing the behaviour off as yet another Windows setting screw-up
is a bit of an ask.  And it's a hidden effect by so many systems which
continuously auto-correct the clock.

> I do change a lot of CMOS batteries for my customers.

Bearing in mind that many of those coin batteries have an expected
working lifespan of about 3 years (that's less than their shelf-life),
it may be worth simply replacing them that often without trying to
squeeze the last morsels of power out of them until things go obviously
wrong.  And modern batteries have worse chemistry than older batteries
(less pollutant, by a fractional amount, but far more prone to leaking
and causing corrosive damage).

I give my PCs a vacuum once or twice a year, and I write a maintenance
log in texta inside the lid (last cleaned so-and-so-date, new battery,
etc).

I've got a very old iMac sitting next to me that needs a new coin
battery put in it, but thanks to idiotic design for cosmetics rather
than practicality, you have to remove every single bit of hardware from
the casing to get to the battery at the back of everything (lots of
interconnected boards and devices).  Why they couldn't have mounted it
on the other side of the board I don't know.  I'm tempted to use a hole
saw on the cabinet to make replacing it much easier.  That, or I'll
solder in a battery holder on fly leads and put it in a much more
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