Re: Wrestling with UEFI
On 8/21/23 21:06, Robert McBroom via users wrote: Added a Fedora 37 and Fedora 38 installations on separate drives to a Windows system. Default boot is the Windows 10 system. Using the boot menu gets me to grub which can boot the system of my choice. When the Fedora 38 install goes to sleep it doesn't come back to Fedora but boots to the Windows install. Keeps going to sleep in a frustratingly short time. The screensaver time setting don't seem to interact with the powermanagement settings. Never doesn't seem to be never. It's not the screensaver time, it's the sleep time setting. But also, if it's booting again, then the sleep isn't even working. What will make fedora stay in its own neighborhood? If the default boot is windows, then any time it reboots, it will go there. You either need to disable the sleeping or figure out why it's not working properly. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Wrestling with UEFI
Added a Fedora 37 and Fedora 38 installations on separate drives to a Windows system. Default boot is the Windows 10 system. Using the boot menu gets me to grub which can boot the system of my choice. When the Fedora 38 install goes to sleep it doesn't come back to Fedora but boots to the Windows install. Keeps going to sleep in a frustratingly short time. The screensaver time setting don't seem to interact with the powermanagement settings. Never doesn't seem to be never. What will make fedora stay in its own neighborhood? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Last kernel update leads to emergency mode
On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 20:30:44 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 8/21/23 08:56, Paul Smith wrote: > > Are other also experience that with the new kernel: > > > > 6.4.10-200.fc38.x86_64 > > > > I have already file a bug but no answer: > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2232838 > > You didn't really provide any info that would help. Can you get any > journal output or the sos file? Is there any indication of what is > going wrong? FWIW I had a similar problem recently with a F37 system. After being unable to figure out a reason for the emergency mode -- in particular journalctl was clean, as was fstab -- I re-installed, which resolved the problem. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Last kernel update leads to emergency mode
On 8/21/23 08:56, Paul Smith wrote: Are other also experience that with the new kernel: 6.4.10-200.fc38.x86_64 I have already file a bug but no answer: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2232838 You didn't really provide any info that would help. Can you get any journal output or the sos file? Is there any indication of what is going wrong? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: GNU Emacs 29.1 in the repos?
On Aug 21, 2023, at 11:44, Gábor Papp wrote: > Good morning/afternoon/evening/night! > > I was just wondering when will Emacs 29.1 be available in the Fedora 38 repos? Looks like it has only been built for Fedora 39 at this point. https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-07e6003761 -- Jonathan Billings___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Last kernel update leads to emergency mode
On Mon, 2023-08-21 at 17:13 +0100, Paul Smith wrote: > On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 5:10 PM Patrick O'Callaghan > wrote: > > > > > Are other also experience that with the new kernel: > > > > > > 6.4.10-200.fc38.x86_64 > > > > > > I have already file a bug but no answer: > > > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2232838 > > > > I didn't have any problems, but I updated to 6.4.11 this morning so > > maybe try that. > > Thanks, Patrick: My bad: the problematic kernel is: > > kernel-6.4.11-200.fc38.x86_64 That's the one I'm using now. Haven't seen any issues with it, touch wood. poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: f38 & snapd
> On 15 Aug 2023, at 10:18, François Patte > wrote: > > error: system does not fully support snapd: cannot mount squashfs image using A web search showed a possible answer install squashfuse? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Upgraded machine to Fedora 38 and now suspending after 15 minues??
On 08/21/2023 12:16 PM, John Mellor wrote: I think that you're missing the point. In order to accommodate the vast majority that are not on laptops, it should at least be programmable behaviour instead of forcing laptop behaviour on everyone. I've no objection of it being an option, just to have it be the default, especially without warning. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Upgraded machine to Fedora 38 and now suspending after 15 minues??
On 2023-08-21 12:55, Joe Zeff wrote: On 08/21/2023 07:03 AM, Chris Adams wrote: This wasn't just some developer's idea... IIRC the request for this change came from someone who sells systems with Linux pre-installed (Lenovo?), because this is a requirement for meeting power certifications needed for desktop/notebook systems. So everybody has to have it like that because one commercial user wants it? I think that you're missing the point. In order to accommodate the vast majority that are not on laptops, it should at least be programmable behaviour instead of forcing laptop behaviour on everyone. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Upgraded machine to Fedora 38 and now suspending after 15 minues??
Michael D. Setzer II: >> Question? If that is so, why couldn't they modify their Linux >> pre-installed setup to have it set, rather than forcing everyone >> else to have to have it as default? Because we're the poor buggas who debug their ideas... But I agree. If you're creating commercial installations that have to adhere to some illusory green-washing principle you really shouldn't be using stock installations but a custom one. The average home user switches their PC off when it's not in use, and expects it to stay switched on when they want it. The non-average PC user that leaves their PC on for extended hours, or 24/7 has done so on purpose because that's what they want it to do. And quite frankly, I can imagine chaos in the IT department of a business that has to deal with multiple employee PCs going dormant at inopportune moments. Computers going tits-up because the worker was on a phone call that took longer than the impatience period, had to do something away from the desk, lunch breaks, whatever... >> Wonder how many people are going to be reporting machines as >> broken since they keep shutting down because of thie FEATURE... Me too. Richard Shaw: > In my case my computer becomes completely unresponsive. Neither > pressing reset, or holding down the power button have any effect > forcing me to use the power supply switch. Not a very good end user > experience. Those of us who've been around here long enough remember that a great number of computers fail spectacularly at suspending, hibernating, and resuming. Sometimes its the hardware, it's never going to manage it. Sometimes it's the software, they've gone about it in an ill-conceived manner, or expected all hardware to work in some particular way. As a general rule, manufacturers only test against Windows compatibility. And if they find a problem, and if they decide to bother with a solution, it'll be a Windows patch, rather than fixing up their hardware. -- NB: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the list. The following system info data is generated fresh for each post: uname -rsvp Linux 6.2.15-100.fc36.x86_64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Thu May 11 16:51:53 UTC 2023 x86_64 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Upgraded machine to Fedora 38 and now suspending after 15 minues??
On 08/21/2023 07:03 AM, Chris Adams wrote: This wasn't just some developer's idea... IIRC the request for this change came from someone who sells systems with Linux pre-installed (Lenovo?), because this is a requirement for meeting power certifications needed for desktop/notebook systems. So everybody has to have it like that because one commercial user wants it? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Last kernel update leads to emergency mode
On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 5:10 PM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > Are other also experience that with the new kernel: > > > > 6.4.10-200.fc38.x86_64 > > > > I have already file a bug but no answer: > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2232838 > > I didn't have any problems, but I updated to 6.4.11 this morning so > maybe try that. Thanks, Patrick: My bad: the problematic kernel is: kernel-6.4.11-200.fc38.x86_64 Paul ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Last kernel update leads to emergency mode
On Mon, 2023-08-21 at 16:56 +0100, Paul Smith wrote: > Dear All, > > Are other also experience that with the new kernel: > > 6.4.10-200.fc38.x86_64 > > I have already file a bug but no answer: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2232838 > I didn't have any problems, but I updated to 6.4.11 this morning so maybe try that. poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Last kernel update leads to emergency mode
Dear All, Are other also experience that with the new kernel: 6.4.10-200.fc38.x86_64 I have already file a bug but no answer: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2232838 Have a nice day, Paul ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
GNU Emacs 29.1 in the repos?
Good morning/afternoon/evening/night! I was just wondering when will Emacs 29.1 be available in the Fedora 38 repos? Thank you. PS: Apologies for the HTML email. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Upgraded machine to Fedora 38 and now suspending after 15 minues??
On Sun, Aug 20, 2023 at 5:50 PM Joe Zeff wrote: > On 08/20/2023 01:56 PM, Tim via users wrote: > > Quite an assumption, that's completely wrong for a large number of > > people. And considering the number of PCs that don't get hibernation > > and suspending working right, that's yet another problem to deal with. > There is a big difference between individual home, small and medium buisness users, and enterprise environments. At my "enterprise" workplace, each building had an energy budget based on watts per workstation. Electrical panels and HVAC were sized to that level. Users were issued a laptop with docking station and monitor. Just before COVID send users home, there was a plan to increase density using call center cubicles. > > "But it works for us!" That, and the assumption that everybody wants > their desktop to look the way the devs do are two of the main reasons I > don't use Gnome. > In my field, there is a "mission critical" command-line app that was developed on SGI IRIX64 and ported to macOS and linux. The vast majority of users have little or no interest or experience with linux, so if they aren't macOS users, they just install some linux distro (I tell them to seek out other linux users at their site for advice on choice of distro so they can get help with site-specific configuration) using the default configuration. This user community benefits when the number of different linux configurations is kept small. Since the majority of users are stuck with Windows in their workplace. it is helpful if the linux desktop is not too different from Windows. -- George N. White III ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: f38 & snapd
On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 11:30:55 +0200 François Patte wrote: > No lights from anyone? I don't use snaps and know almost nothing about snaps, but maybe this link will help? https://computingforgeeks.com/install-snapd-and-snap-applications-on-fedora/ ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Upgraded machine to Fedora 38 and now suspending after 15 minues??
On Mon, 2023-08-21 at 08:03 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Joe Zeff said: > > On 08/20/2023 01:56 PM, Tim via users wrote: > > > Quite an assumption, that's completely wrong for a large number > > > of > > > people. And considering the number of PCs that don't get > > > hibernation > > > and suspending working right, that's yet another problem to deal > > > with. > > > > "But it works for us!" That, and the assumption that everybody > > wants their desktop to look the way the devs do are two of the main > > reasons I don't use Gnome. > > This wasn't just some developer's idea... IIRC the request for this > change came from someone who sells systems with Linux pre-installed > (Lenovo?), because this is a requirement for meeting power > certifications needed for desktop/notebook systems. Some people need it, some don't, but everyone gets it and quite a few don't know they have it until it trips them up. It ignores the old rule known as the Principle of Least Astonishment. poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Upgraded machine to Fedora 38 and now suspending after 15 minues??
On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 9:01 AM Michael D. Setzer II via users < users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > > This wasn't just some developer's idea... IIRC the request for this > > change came from someone who sells systems with Linux pre-installed > > (Lenovo?), because this is a requirement for meeting power > > certifications needed for desktop/notebook systems. > > > > Question? If that is so, why couldn't they modify their Linux > pre-installed setup to have it set, rather than forcing everyone else > to have to have it as default? > > Since I did a dnf upgrade it didn't present any option saying it was > going to do this, or prompting for the option. Don't know if a clean > install would have presented any option.. > > Wonder how many people are going to be reporting machines as > broken since they keep shutting down because of thie FEATURE... > In my case my computer becomes completely unresponsive. Neither pressing reset, or holding down the power button have any effect forcing me to use the power supply switch. Not a very good end user experience. Thanks, Richard ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Upgraded machine to Fedora 38 and now suspending after 15 minues??
On Mon, 2023-08-21 at 08:03 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > This wasn't just some developer's idea... IIRC the request for this > change came from someone who sells systems with Linux pre-installed > (Lenovo?), because this is a requirement for meeting power > certifications needed for desktop/notebook systems. It should have been an option that the owner could *easily* control. People are having to ask about unsetting it, because the only obvious control for changing it will only affect the computer while you're logged into it (power management settings for *you*). As soon as you log out, the login screen's settings take over. Come to that, GDM really needs re-thinking. It's so damn hard to change how the login screen works that it's not funny. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.95.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon Jul 24 13:59:37 UTC 2023 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Upgraded machine to Fedora 38 and now suspending after 15 minues??
On 21 Aug 2023 at 8:03, Chris Adams wrote: Date sent: Mon, 21 Aug 2023 08:03:34 -0500 From: Chris Adams To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject:Re: Upgraded machine to Fedora 38 and now suspending after 15 minues?? Send reply to: Community support for Fedora users > Once upon a time, Joe Zeff said: > > On 08/20/2023 01:56 PM, Tim via users wrote: > > >Quite an assumption, that's completely wrong for a large number of > > >people. And considering the number of PCs that don't get hibernation > > >and suspending working right, that's yet another problem to deal with. > > > > "But it works for us!" That, and the assumption that everybody > > wants their desktop to look the way the devs do are two of the main > > reasons I don't use Gnome. > > This wasn't just some developer's idea... IIRC the request for this > change came from someone who sells systems with Linux pre-installed > (Lenovo?), because this is a requirement for meeting power > certifications needed for desktop/notebook systems. > Question? If that is so, why couldn't they modify their Linux pre-installed setup to have it set, rather than forcing everyone else to have to have it as default? Since I did a dnf upgrade it didn't present any option saying it was going to do this, or prompting for the option. Don't know if a clean install would have presented any option.. Wonder how many people are going to be reporting machines as broken since they keep shutting down because of thie FEATURE... > -- > Chris Adams > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue ++ Michael D. Setzer II - Computer Science Instructor (Retired) mailto:mi...@guam.net mailto:msetze...@gmail.com Guam - Where America's Day Begins G4L Disk Imaging Project maintainer http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l/ ++ ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Upgraded machine to Fedora 38 and now suspending after 15 minues??
Once upon a time, Joe Zeff said: > On 08/20/2023 01:56 PM, Tim via users wrote: > >Quite an assumption, that's completely wrong for a large number of > >people. And considering the number of PCs that don't get hibernation > >and suspending working right, that's yet another problem to deal with. > > "But it works for us!" That, and the assumption that everybody > wants their desktop to look the way the devs do are two of the main > reasons I don't use Gnome. This wasn't just some developer's idea... IIRC the request for this change came from someone who sells systems with Linux pre-installed (Lenovo?), because this is a requirement for meeting power certifications needed for desktop/notebook systems. -- Chris Adams ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: f38 & snapd
Le 2023-08-15 11:17, François Patte a écrit : Bonjour, on f38 it is possible to install snapd but it seems impossible to use it: while I wanted to install nextcloud via snap, I get this error message: error: system does not fully support snapd: cannot mount squashfs image using "squashfs": - mount: /tmp/syscheck-mountpoint-2175242409: type de système de fichiers « squashfs » inconnu. I installed squashfs-tools but no change... Thank you for lights. No lights from anyone? -- François Patte UFR de mathématiques et informatique Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145 Université Paris Descartes 45, rue des Saints Pères F-75270 Paris Cedex 06 Tél. +33 (0)6 7892 5822 http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte FSF https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/presenting-shoetool-happy-holidays-from-the-fsf ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Upgraded machine to Fedora 38 and now suspending after 15 minues??
Den 2023-08-21 kl. 03:09, skrev Michael D. Setzer II via users: Question. Just looked at the sleep.conf file on my machine and all the commented lines (all) seem to show the default as =yes, so I assuming that you mean to uncomment the lines and change =yes to =no?? Check the file on my Fedora 37 and it also shows most of same options? [Sleep] #AllowSuspend=yes #AllowHibernation=yes #AllowSuspendThenHibernate=yes #AllowHybridSleep=yes #SuspendMode= #SuspendState=mem standby freeze #HibernateMode=platform shutdown #HibernateState=disk #HybridSleepMode=suspend platform shutdown #HybridSleepState=disk #HibernateDelaySec=120min What I understand this shows the standard value of this parameters. There for you need to uncomment "Allow*" and change "yes" to "no". This works for me. I also do: sudo -u gdm dbus-run-session gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power sleep-inactive-ac-timeout 0 since I am running Gnome. -- Regards Jon Ingason ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue