Re: F38 installer claims it cannot find a hard disk
On Fri, 6 Oct 2023, Roger Heflin wrote: What does "lspci | grep -i sata" show in the livecd? liveuser@localhost-live hennebry]$ lspci | grep -i sata >>sata.txt [liveuser@localhost-live hennebry]$ cat sata.txt 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801IB (ICH9) 2 port SATA Controller [IDE mode] (rev 02) 00:1f.5 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) 2 port SATA Controller [IDE mode] (rev 02) 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801IB (ICH9) 2 port SATA Controller [IDE mode] (rev 02) 00:1f.5 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) 2 port SATA Controller [IDE mode] (rev 02) [liveuser@localhost-live hennebry]$ The first two data lines are from running F35. The last two data lines are from running live F38. They seem to be the same. And you don't have any bios/software raid enabled and have the disk set to AHCI if available in the bios? I'll try to check the BIOS. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Fedora 38 wayland login user NO, root Yes SOLVED
> Well, "we have met the enemy and he is us". > > I very regularly use rsync to backup my home directory to a different machine. > So, after installing from KDE Live, logging in from a remote machine, > I restored my home directory with the saved backup. ... and user/group rights and ownership have been okay after the restore ? ls -alR /home ls -alR /home/ ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: F38 installer claims it cannot find a hard disk
What does "lspci | grep -i sata" show in the livecd? And you don't have any bios/software raid enabled and have the disk set to AHCI if available in the bios? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Fedora 38 wayland login user NO, root Yes SOLVED
Well, "we have met the enemy and he is us". I very regularly use rsync to backup my home directory to a different machine. So, after installing from KDE Live, logging in from a remote machine, I restored my home directory with the saved backup. This created/over-wrote .local .config .cache .gtkrc-2.0 .gtkrc-2.0-kde4 .mozilla This removed all the wayland stuff and other files that were placed there during the useradd/gui_login_attempt. Lesson 1, if you need to restore a backup, be careful about restoring certain directories ... especially if you did an install/upgrade after the taking of the backup. So, I got errors from who knows where and could not login from the login screen but could ssh into the machine. Now, having deleted the above directories and then doing an initial gui login, I succeeded. Richard On 10/6/23 08:45, Barry wrote: On 6 Oct 2023, at 15:57, richard emberson wrote: Back in 10/04/2023 I got "Pri Master Hard Disk SMART status BAD" # smartctl -a /dev/sda | more Western Digital VelociRaptor WDC WD3000GLFS-01F8U0 SATA 2.5 3.0 Gb/s 1 rpm ... health test result: FAILED! failure less than 24 hours SAVE ALL DATA ... Vendor Specific SMART Attributes.. ID NAME ... WHEN_FAILED RAW_VLAUE ... 5 Reallocated_Secor_Ct FAILING NOW 548 So, I got a new hard disk and installed from KDE Live. ( Fedora XFCE Live 38 could not be installed. Lots of: Timed out for waiting the udev queue being empty ) I then "dnf update" This is my first attempt at using Wayland ... always been an X.org guy. Installed xterm, started xterm, system crashed. Now, I get the login GUI screen, but I can not login as a user; the screen goes blank and then returns to the login screen. But, I can login as 'root' (Super User). Also, I can ssh in as the user and from root login in a terminal I can su to the user. Running lspci I see: VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT218 [GeForce 210] (rev a2) Any help would be appreciated I would expect there to be logs in the journal with a clue why the user cannot log in. Barry Richard ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: F38 installer claims it cannot find a hard disk
On Fri, 6 Oct 2023, Roger Heflin wrote: What kind of device/controller are those filesystems on? They would have to be something weird for anaconda to not have the right driver. it is not a sdhc/mmc type card is it? 'Tis an internal Seagate model ST380815AS. 80e9 bytes. 7200 rpm. SATA. I omitted the /dev/'s from the device names: /dev/sda1 Clearly something had the right driver. It could show me my .jpg images. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: How do I stop this malware
keep a second firefox window open, alt-tab to it run about:performance and it will list out all of your tabs and you can X a specific tab. Try about:performance I have to use it a lot to figure out which tab lost its mind and is slowing everything down because it decided it needs gb's of ram. On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 4:05 PM Michael Hennebry wrote: > > On Fri, 6 Oct 2023, Roger Heflin wrote: > > > I am surprised that alt-tab does not switch to another app for you. I > > If it happens again, I'll try it. > I'd forgotten all about it. > Do not rmember the last time I used it. > > > have used that to switch out of full screen applications and I would > > not expect firefox/malware to have any way to make the window be able > > to truly take over the screen. > > -- > Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu > "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: F38 installer claims it cannot find a hard disk
What kind of device/controller are those filesystems on? They would have to be something weird for anaconda to not have the right driver. it is not a sdhc/mmc type card is it? On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 4:02 PM Michael Hennebry wrote: > > > On Fri, 6 Oct 2023, Roger Heflin wrote: > > > Typically you have to go full custom and assuming home is on a VG with > > free space you would then have to create a LV and define a fs on it, > > and assigned it as root (/). > > > > Similar would have to be done with /boot outside of LVM and if efi > > would you also need a /boot/efi again outside of LVM. > > I do not have LVM. > > > No harddisk means no harddisk with free space(unpartitioned). If > > partitions are unused then you would have to assign them and/or rework > > them. > > > > What does the /home directory/disk look like? (partition table, lvm > > setup (if lvm)?) > > sda1: 100 M Windows > sda2: 100 M Id 83 > sda3: 31.6 G / Id 83 > sda5: 5.0 G holds an iso9660 image, won't boot, so settled for DVD > sda6: 6.0 G /var Id 83 > sda7: 31.7 G /home Id 83 > > While running as a live OS, F38 can show me .jpg images from /home . > While supposedly doing an install, > it claims not to see /dev/sda or any hard drive at all. > > > On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 10:06?AM Michael Hennebry > > wrote: > >> > >> On Fri, 6 Oct 2023, Stephen Morris wrote: > >> > >>> On 6/10/23 13:12, Michael Hennebry wrote: > I burned the F38 workstation installer onto a DVD. > On booting it can find my home directory on the only hard disk. > When I tell the installer to install, > it claims it cannot find a hard drive. Grrr. > > The first time I got the message, I just rebooted. > On the second boot, I looked for my home directory and found it. > I even looked at some images, so I know it was atually reading files. > When I told it to install, no go. > >>> > >>> To do the install you have to point the installer at a partition you have > >>> specified as the root (/) mount point for it to install to. As part of you > >> > >> How? > >> It seems to want me to select from a list, > >> but the list is empty. > >> Also a message at the bottom states no hard drive detected. > >> > >>> can also point it at your /home partition and tell it that is the /home > >>> mount point. You may also have to create a 100MB partition for the uefi > >>> partition if you are installing on a uefi system. > >> > >> -- > >> Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu > >> "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke > >> Roman___ > >> users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > >> To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > >> Fedora Code of Conduct: > >> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > >> List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > >> List Archives: > >> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > >> Do not reply to spam, report it: > >> https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue > > ___ > > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > > Fedora Code of Conduct: > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > > List Archives: > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > > Do not reply to spam, report it: > > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue > > -- > Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu > "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: How do I stop this malware
On Fri, 6 Oct 2023, Roger Heflin wrote: I am surprised that alt-tab does not switch to another app for you. I If it happens again, I'll try it. I'd forgotten all about it. Do not rmember the last time I used it. have used that to switch out of full screen applications and I would not expect firefox/malware to have any way to make the window be able to truly take over the screen. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: F38 installer claims it cannot find a hard disk
On Fri, 6 Oct 2023, Roger Heflin wrote: Typically you have to go full custom and assuming home is on a VG with free space you would then have to create a LV and define a fs on it, and assigned it as root (/). Similar would have to be done with /boot outside of LVM and if efi would you also need a /boot/efi again outside of LVM. I do not have LVM. No harddisk means no harddisk with free space(unpartitioned). If partitions are unused then you would have to assign them and/or rework them. What does the /home directory/disk look like? (partition table, lvm setup (if lvm)?) sda1: 100 M Windows sda2: 100 M Id 83 sda3: 31.6 G / Id 83 sda5: 5.0 G holds an iso9660 image, won't boot, so settled for DVD sda6: 6.0 G /var Id 83 sda7: 31.7 G /home Id 83 While running as a live OS, F38 can show me .jpg images from /home . While supposedly doing an install, it claims not to see /dev/sda or any hard drive at all. On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 10:06?AM Michael Hennebry wrote: On Fri, 6 Oct 2023, Stephen Morris wrote: On 6/10/23 13:12, Michael Hennebry wrote: I burned the F38 workstation installer onto a DVD. On booting it can find my home directory on the only hard disk. When I tell the installer to install, it claims it cannot find a hard drive. Grrr. The first time I got the message, I just rebooted. On the second boot, I looked for my home directory and found it. I even looked at some images, so I know it was atually reading files. When I told it to install, no go. To do the install you have to point the installer at a partition you have specified as the root (/) mount point for it to install to. As part of you How? It seems to want me to select from a list, but the list is empty. Also a message at the bottom states no hard drive detected. can also point it at your /home partition and tell it that is the /home mount point. You may also have to create a 100MB partition for the uefi partition if you are installing on a uefi system. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: How do I stop this malware
I am surprised that alt-tab does not switch to another app for you. I have used that to switch out of full screen applications and I would not expect firefox/malware to have any way to make the window be able to truly take over the screen. In firefox about:config there are some options that might prevent full screen from hiding the window manager controls even in full screen. about:confg and search for fullscreen (browser.fullscreen.autohide defaults to true). On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 3:50 PM Michael Hennebry wrote: > > On Fri, 6 Oct 2023, Mike Wright wrote: > > > What would happen if you disconnected from the network just long enough to > > change the settings on the browser to NOT open new pages in a tab but > > instead to do it the old-fashioned way: open new pages in their own window. > > You might be able to X the malware window or at least identify it with ps so > > you could manually kill it by PID. > > As it is, if I disconnect from the network, > I can remove the offending tab, > but I have to play with wires. > I'd rather not. > > -- > Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu > "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Monitors
I will pay money to simplify the config and/or the mess such that it is easier to get working and/or easier to keep working. 2 different cards from 2 vendors is going to be difficult to get working and difficult to keep working. If you are going to have to add/buy cards and/or buy a 2nd KVM for the second set ouptuts to monitors then you are likely already close to 1/2 way to the outright cost of the 4k device. And the new 4k tv (monitors are expensive, tv's are not) simplifies everything.Sometimes using what you have is way more expensive in time and sometimes money. On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 3:24 PM Patrick Dupre wrote: > > > > > so you want a dual-dual-monitor setup with a KVM. > > > > Have you considered getting a single large 4k monitor/tv instead of 2 > > smaller ones(assuming the smaller ones are 1080p)? That would > > simplify a lot of what you would need to buy. > > Sure, but I already have the 2 monitors and the 2 PCs. > > > > > I am running a 4k TV across 2 machines, physically it is 43" and I > > have the usable resolution/space of 4 22" 1080P monitors. The color > > on my TV is decent and it is a cheap 4k tv ($220 + tax), so may not be > > much more expensive that the hardware needed to implement the above. > > > > I use the TV input/remote switch + a USB keyboard-mouse switch to > > switch control from one to the other. On one of the machines I have > > a second small monitor(not on a switch) off to the side showing stuff > > I always want to be displayed(outside cameras). > > > > On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 11:06 AM Patrick Dupre wrote: > > > > > > I am sorry for the confusion. > > > I am attaching a pdf to clarify my approach. > > > > > > The question is about what to set in PC1. > > > The VGA port cannot be used for this setup. > > > Option 1: > > > try to use the DVI of the MB and > > > add a graphics card with one DP port > > > Option 2: > > > add a dual port DP/DP video card, with a converter DP to DVI > > > Option 3: > > > try to use the DVI of the MB and > > > add a USB-C card with a converter USB-C to DP > > > Option 4: > > > add a dual USB-C card with a converter USB-C to DP and USB-C to DVI. > > > Option 5 > > > add a dual port DP/DVI video card > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2023 at 4:48 PM > > > > From: "Roger Heflin" > > > > To: "Community support for Fedora users" > > > > Subject: Re: Monitors > > > > > > > > ok. that makes a bit more sense. And by KVM he means just > > > > keyboard-mouse since he has 2 monitors and does not need the video > > > > and/or the video is separated by monitor. > > > > > > > > I am not sure what he is trying to do given this setup. Depending on > > > > what he is trying to do, there may be easier ways to do what he wants. > > > > > > > > Then the question becomes what will X/wayland allow you to separate. > > > > With 2 separate video cards of some sort that should be safer, I am > > > > not sure 2 X/wayland instances would play nice with the same video > > > > card but underlying 2 monitors. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 8:31 AM Patrick O'Callaghan > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2023-10-06 at 05:55 -0500, Roger Heflin wrote: > > > > > > I don't believe KVM allows separation by video port. I think you > > > > > > can > > > > > > only give a KVM the entire card. And even if KVM allowed you to > > > > > > give > > > > > > it a single port I think X/Wayland assumes total control of the card > > > > > > and cards ram (I could be wrong, but that would require knowing > > > > > > about > > > > > > the 2nd instance and playing nice with each other, and that seems > > > > > > like > > > > > > a lot of work so, and even if it was done it probably does not work > > > > > > right).I don't think #1 will work, #4 would work so long as you > > > > > > have 2 usb-c converters. > > > > > > > > > > > > What are you doing inside the KVM that you need to give it a real > > > > > > video card? Or does the virtual one simply work that bad? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I suspect some confusion about the meaning of KVM. I think the OP > > > > > means > > > > > a physical Keyboard-Video-Mouse switch, not the kernel virtual machine > > > > > system. > > > > > > > > > > poc > > > > > ___ > > > > > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > > > > > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > > > > > Fedora Code of Conduct: > > > > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > > > > > List Guidelines: > > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > > > > > List Archives: > > > > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > > > > > Do not reply to spam, report it: > > > > > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue > > > > ___ > > > > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > > >
Re: How do I stop this malware
On Fri, 6 Oct 2023, Mike Wright wrote: What would happen if you disconnected from the network just long enough to change the settings on the browser to NOT open new pages in a tab but instead to do it the old-fashioned way: open new pages in their own window. You might be able to X the malware window or at least identify it with ps so you could manually kill it by PID. As it is, if I disconnect from the network, I can remove the offending tab, but I have to play with wires. I'd rather not. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Monitors
> > so you want a dual-dual-monitor setup with a KVM. > > Have you considered getting a single large 4k monitor/tv instead of 2 > smaller ones(assuming the smaller ones are 1080p)? That would > simplify a lot of what you would need to buy. Sure, but I already have the 2 monitors and the 2 PCs. > > I am running a 4k TV across 2 machines, physically it is 43" and I > have the usable resolution/space of 4 22" 1080P monitors. The color > on my TV is decent and it is a cheap 4k tv ($220 + tax), so may not be > much more expensive that the hardware needed to implement the above. > > I use the TV input/remote switch + a USB keyboard-mouse switch to > switch control from one to the other. On one of the machines I have > a second small monitor(not on a switch) off to the side showing stuff > I always want to be displayed(outside cameras). > > On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 11:06 AM Patrick Dupre wrote: > > > > I am sorry for the confusion. > > I am attaching a pdf to clarify my approach. > > > > The question is about what to set in PC1. > > The VGA port cannot be used for this setup. > > Option 1: > > try to use the DVI of the MB and > > add a graphics card with one DP port > > Option 2: > > add a dual port DP/DP video card, with a converter DP to DVI > > Option 3: > > try to use the DVI of the MB and > > add a USB-C card with a converter USB-C to DP > > Option 4: > > add a dual USB-C card with a converter USB-C to DP and USB-C to DVI. > > Option 5 > > add a dual port DP/DVI video card > > > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2023 at 4:48 PM > > > From: "Roger Heflin" > > > To: "Community support for Fedora users" > > > Subject: Re: Monitors > > > > > > ok. that makes a bit more sense. And by KVM he means just > > > keyboard-mouse since he has 2 monitors and does not need the video > > > and/or the video is separated by monitor. > > > > > > I am not sure what he is trying to do given this setup. Depending on > > > what he is trying to do, there may be easier ways to do what he wants. > > > > > > Then the question becomes what will X/wayland allow you to separate. > > > With 2 separate video cards of some sort that should be safer, I am > > > not sure 2 X/wayland instances would play nice with the same video > > > card but underlying 2 monitors. > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 8:31 AM Patrick O'Callaghan > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2023-10-06 at 05:55 -0500, Roger Heflin wrote: > > > > > I don't believe KVM allows separation by video port. I think you can > > > > > only give a KVM the entire card. And even if KVM allowed you to give > > > > > it a single port I think X/Wayland assumes total control of the card > > > > > and cards ram (I could be wrong, but that would require knowing about > > > > > the 2nd instance and playing nice with each other, and that seems > > > > > like > > > > > a lot of work so, and even if it was done it probably does not work > > > > > right).I don't think #1 will work, #4 would work so long as you > > > > > have 2 usb-c converters. > > > > > > > > > > What are you doing inside the KVM that you need to give it a real > > > > > video card? Or does the virtual one simply work that bad? > > > > > > > > > > > > > I suspect some confusion about the meaning of KVM. I think the OP means > > > > a physical Keyboard-Video-Mouse switch, not the kernel virtual machine > > > > system. > > > > > > > > poc > > > > ___ > > > > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > > > > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > > > > Fedora Code of Conduct: > > > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > > > > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > > > > List Archives: > > > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > > > > Do not reply to spam, report it: > > > > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue > > > ___ > > > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > > > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > > > Fedora Code of Conduct: > > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > > > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > > > List Archives: > > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > > > Do not reply to spam, report it: > > > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue > > >___ > > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > > Fedora Code of Conduct: > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > > List Archives: > >
Re: Monitors
Hello, On 06/10/2023 09:47, Patrick Dupre wrote: I plan to install a KVM for 2 monitors. One machine has a VGA/DVI on the motherboard, and the other one has 2 DP. Both monitors are VGA/DVI/DP I have to replace the VGA out by a DP. What would be the best option: 1) Add a DP video card on the PCIExpress bus (and use the DVI of the motherboard) If you want to use two different graphics cards (dedicated and on board) at the same time you will likely run into trouble or at least have a difficult setup. It might even start with the on board graphics being automatically disabled when you plug in a dedicated PCIe graphics card. And I would be really surprised if you could find a graphics card with DP and only one output. The only time I would consider more than one graphics adapter at the same time is if you absolutely can not get enough outputs with a single card (more than four monitors). 2) Add a dual port DP/DP (or DP/DVI) video card on the PCIExpress (using none port of the motherboard) This is the way to go. 3) Add a USB-C port on the PCIExpress and a USB-C -> DP converter (and use the DVI of the motherboard) 4) Add a dual USB-C (on the PCIExpress) and 1 USB-C -> DVI and 1 USB-C -> DP converter. Those two will not work. USB-C does not magically do display, but also needs some GPU to generate the DP signals to put onto the connector. In notebooks or other fully integrated devices this is quite common, but external USB-C adapter cards usually have a DP input to which you have to connect a DP cable from a separate graphics card (or on board graphics). The KVM2 could be DP/DP or DP/DVI. I think it makes sense to go fully DP on all used outputs and also use a KVM-Switch with DP. DVI is a dead end and deprecated for almost ten years now. I guess your monitors do not do more than 1920x1080@60Hz, but if you want to switch to something with a larger resolution in the future, DVI with adapters (since the new monitor will not have DVI inputs) will not work. If you want to use adapters between different port types keep in mind that only DVI to HDMI are bi-directional, everything else (especially DP to DVI) has a fixed signal flow direction and might need external power (for example DVI to DP, if you can even find it). Best regards, Lukas ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Monitors
so you want a dual-dual-monitor setup with a KVM. Have you considered getting a single large 4k monitor/tv instead of 2 smaller ones(assuming the smaller ones are 1080p)? That would simplify a lot of what you would need to buy. I am running a 4k TV across 2 machines, physically it is 43" and I have the usable resolution/space of 4 22" 1080P monitors. The color on my TV is decent and it is a cheap 4k tv ($220 + tax), so may not be much more expensive that the hardware needed to implement the above. I use the TV input/remote switch + a USB keyboard-mouse switch to switch control from one to the other. On one of the machines I have a second small monitor(not on a switch) off to the side showing stuff I always want to be displayed(outside cameras). On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 11:06 AM Patrick Dupre wrote: > > I am sorry for the confusion. > I am attaching a pdf to clarify my approach. > > The question is about what to set in PC1. > The VGA port cannot be used for this setup. > Option 1: > try to use the DVI of the MB and > add a graphics card with one DP port > Option 2: > add a dual port DP/DP video card, with a converter DP to DVI > Option 3: > try to use the DVI of the MB and > add a USB-C card with a converter USB-C to DP > Option 4: > add a dual USB-C card with a converter USB-C to DP and USB-C to DVI. > Option 5 > add a dual port DP/DVI video card > > > > > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2023 at 4:48 PM > > From: "Roger Heflin" > > To: "Community support for Fedora users" > > Subject: Re: Monitors > > > > ok. that makes a bit more sense. And by KVM he means just > > keyboard-mouse since he has 2 monitors and does not need the video > > and/or the video is separated by monitor. > > > > I am not sure what he is trying to do given this setup. Depending on > > what he is trying to do, there may be easier ways to do what he wants. > > > > Then the question becomes what will X/wayland allow you to separate. > > With 2 separate video cards of some sort that should be safer, I am > > not sure 2 X/wayland instances would play nice with the same video > > card but underlying 2 monitors. > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 8:31 AM Patrick O'Callaghan > > wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, 2023-10-06 at 05:55 -0500, Roger Heflin wrote: > > > > I don't believe KVM allows separation by video port. I think you can > > > > only give a KVM the entire card. And even if KVM allowed you to give > > > > it a single port I think X/Wayland assumes total control of the card > > > > and cards ram (I could be wrong, but that would require knowing about > > > > the 2nd instance and playing nice with each other, and that seems > > > > like > > > > a lot of work so, and even if it was done it probably does not work > > > > right).I don't think #1 will work, #4 would work so long as you > > > > have 2 usb-c converters. > > > > > > > > What are you doing inside the KVM that you need to give it a real > > > > video card? Or does the virtual one simply work that bad? > > > > > > > > > > I suspect some confusion about the meaning of KVM. I think the OP means > > > a physical Keyboard-Video-Mouse switch, not the kernel virtual machine > > > system. > > > > > > poc > > > ___ > > > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > > > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > > > Fedora Code of Conduct: > > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > > > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > > > List Archives: > > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > > > Do not reply to spam, report it: > > > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue > > ___ > > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > > Fedora Code of Conduct: > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > > List Archives: > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > > Do not reply to spam, report it: > > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue > >___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Monitors
I am sorry for the confusion. I am attaching a pdf to clarify my approach. The question is about what to set in PC1. The VGA port cannot be used for this setup. Option 1: try to use the DVI of the MB and add a graphics card with one DP port Option 2: add a dual port DP/DP video card, with a converter DP to DVI Option 3: try to use the DVI of the MB and add a USB-C card with a converter USB-C to DP Option 4: add a dual USB-C card with a converter USB-C to DP and USB-C to DVI. Option 5 add a dual port DP/DVI video card > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2023 at 4:48 PM > From: "Roger Heflin" > To: "Community support for Fedora users" > Subject: Re: Monitors > > ok. that makes a bit more sense. And by KVM he means just > keyboard-mouse since he has 2 monitors and does not need the video > and/or the video is separated by monitor. > > I am not sure what he is trying to do given this setup. Depending on > what he is trying to do, there may be easier ways to do what he wants. > > Then the question becomes what will X/wayland allow you to separate. > With 2 separate video cards of some sort that should be safer, I am > not sure 2 X/wayland instances would play nice with the same video > card but underlying 2 monitors. > > > On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 8:31 AM Patrick O'Callaghan > wrote: > > > > On Fri, 2023-10-06 at 05:55 -0500, Roger Heflin wrote: > > > I don't believe KVM allows separation by video port. I think you can > > > only give a KVM the entire card. And even if KVM allowed you to give > > > it a single port I think X/Wayland assumes total control of the card > > > and cards ram (I could be wrong, but that would require knowing about > > > the 2nd instance and playing nice with each other, and that seems > > > like > > > a lot of work so, and even if it was done it probably does not work > > > right).I don't think #1 will work, #4 would work so long as you > > > have 2 usb-c converters. > > > > > > What are you doing inside the KVM that you need to give it a real > > > video card? Or does the virtual one simply work that bad? > > > > > > > I suspect some confusion about the meaning of KVM. I think the OP means > > a physical Keyboard-Video-Mouse switch, not the kernel virtual machine > > system. > > > > poc > > ___ > > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > > Fedora Code of Conduct: > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > > List Archives: > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > > Do not reply to spam, report it: > > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue > KVM.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Fedora 38 wayland login user NO, root Yes
> On 6 Oct 2023, at 15:57, richard emberson wrote: > > Back in 10/04/2023 I got "Pri Master Hard Disk SMART status BAD" > # smartctl -a /dev/sda | more > Western Digital VelociRaptor > WDC WD3000GLFS-01F8U0 > SATA 2.5 3.0 Gb/s > 1 rpm > ... > health test result: FAILED! > failure less than 24 hours SAVE ALL DATA > ... > Vendor Specific SMART Attributes.. > ID NAME ... WHEN_FAILED RAW_VLAUE > ... > 5 Reallocated_Secor_Ct FAILING NOW 548 > > So, I got a new hard disk and installed from KDE Live. > ( > Fedora XFCE Live 38 could not be installed. > Lots of: Timed out for waiting the udev queue being empty > ) > I then "dnf update" > This is my first attempt at using Wayland ... always > been an X.org guy. > > Installed xterm, started xterm, system crashed. > > Now, I get the login GUI screen, but I can not login > as a user; the screen goes blank and then returns to the > login screen. > But, I can login as 'root' (Super User). > Also, I can ssh in as the user and from root login in a terminal > I can su to the user. > Running lspci I see: > VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT218 [GeForce 210] (rev a2) > > Any help would be appreciated I would expect there to be logs in the journal with a clue why the user cannot log in. Barry > Richard > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Monitors
> On 6 Oct 2023, at 08:47, Patrick Dupre wrote: > > One machine has a VGA/DVI on the motherboard, and the other one has 2 DP. > Both monitors are VGA/DVI/DP Use a DVI KVM (check it allows EDID passthru). You can passively convert DP to DVI with a cable. Barry ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: How do I stop this malware
On 10/6/23 07:58, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Thu, 5 Oct 2023, Joe Zeff wrote: On 10/05/2023 09:15 PM, Tim via users wrote: It's a pity there isn't a hotkey for killing just the frontmost/topmost program. ALT+F4 will close the top/front window, if they're obeying control, but I mean instantly killing the topmost window despite what it wants. There's a force quit taskbar app for that (on Mate, at least), click on it, then click on the window you want to kill. But that can be hard to do if something is really hammering the CPU with a heavy load. Just install xkill and put an icon for it on your taskbar. It's DE agnostic and kills rogue windows just fine. That might work if I could get to it, but with the malware doing its thing, no go. I can delete just one tab if I disconnect from the internet. For now, that means disconnecting a cable, as I cannot use the network icon either. Hence the desire to keep malware from going fullscreen. Also, disconnection might not work on a similar attack done with client-side scripting. In that case, I might have to directly kill a process. I can do that from another console, but do not know how to select the process of the rogue tab. What would happen if you disconnected from the network just long enough to change the settings on the browser to NOT open new pages in a tab but instead to do it the old-fashioned way: open new pages in their own window. You might be able to X the malware window or at least identify it with ps so you could manually kill it by PID. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Solved: Re: Anyone know of any cards or accessories that allow a desktop to make calls on a cellular network?
On Thu, 5 Oct 2023 14:35:42 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 2023-10-05 12:34, stan via users wrote: > > Inspired by the responses here that allowed me to understand what I > > was searching for, I eventually found a program called scrcpy. > > > > https://github.com/Genymobile/scrcpy/ > > > > It allows a linux desktop attached to a phone, either via usb or > > tcpip, to control the phone. > > > > https://github.com/Genymobile/scrcpy/blob/master/doc/linux.md > > You might want to check out "kde-connect" which is packaged for > Fedora. It works on other desktops as well. Thanks, another option. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Anyone know of any cards or accessories that allow a desktop to make calls on a cellular network?
On Fri, 06 Oct 2023 13:14:50 +1030 Tim wrote: Thanks for the explanations, Tim. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: F38 installer claims it cannot find a hard disk
Typically you have to go full custom and assuming home is on a VG with free space you would then have to create a LV and define a fs on it, and assigned it as root (/). Similar would have to be done with /boot outside of LVM and if efi would you also need a /boot/efi again outside of LVM. No harddisk means no harddisk with free space(unpartitioned). If partitions are unused then you would have to assign them and/or rework them. What does the /home directory/disk look like? (partition table, lvm setup (if lvm)?) On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 10:06 AM Michael Hennebry wrote: > > On Fri, 6 Oct 2023, Stephen Morris wrote: > > > On 6/10/23 13:12, Michael Hennebry wrote: > >> I burned the F38 workstation installer onto a DVD. > >> On booting it can find my home directory on the only hard disk. > >> When I tell the installer to install, > >> it claims it cannot find a hard drive. Grrr. > >> > >> The first time I got the message, I just rebooted. > >> On the second boot, I looked for my home directory and found it. > >> I even looked at some images, so I know it was atually reading files. > >> When I told it to install, no go. > > > > To do the install you have to point the installer at a partition you have > > specified as the root (/) mount point for it to install to. As part of you > > How? > It seems to want me to select from a list, > but the list is empty. > Also a message at the bottom states no hard drive detected. > > > can also point it at your /home partition and tell it that is the /home > > mount point. You may also have to create a 100MB partition for the uefi > > partition if you are installing on a uefi system. > > -- > Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu > "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke > Roman___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: F38 installer claims it cannot find a hard disk
On Fri, 6 Oct 2023, Stephen Morris wrote: On 6/10/23 13:12, Michael Hennebry wrote: I burned the F38 workstation installer onto a DVD. On booting it can find my home directory on the only hard disk. When I tell the installer to install, it claims it cannot find a hard drive. Grrr. The first time I got the message, I just rebooted. On the second boot, I looked for my home directory and found it. I even looked at some images, so I know it was atually reading files. When I told it to install, no go. To do the install you have to point the installer at a partition you have specified as the root (/) mount point for it to install to. As part of you How? It seems to want me to select from a list, but the list is empty. Also a message at the bottom states no hard drive detected. can also point it at your /home partition and tell it that is the /home mount point. You may also have to create a 100MB partition for the uefi partition if you are installing on a uefi system. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: How do I stop this malware
On Thu, 5 Oct 2023, Joe Zeff wrote: On 10/05/2023 09:15 PM, Tim via users wrote: It's a pity there isn't a hotkey for killing just the frontmost/topmost program. ALT+F4 will close the top/front window, if they're obeying control, but I mean instantly killing the topmost window despite what it wants. There's a force quit taskbar app for that (on Mate, at least), click on it, then click on the window you want to kill. But that can be hard to do if something is really hammering the CPU with a heavy load. Just install xkill and put an icon for it on your taskbar. It's DE agnostic and kills rogue windows just fine. That might work if I could get to it, but with the malware doing its thing, no go. I can delete just one tab if I disconnect from the internet. For now, that means disconnecting a cable, as I cannot use the network icon either. Hence the desire to keep malware from going fullscreen. Also, disconnection might not work on a similar attack done with client-side scripting. In that case, I might have to directly kill a process. I can do that from another console, but do not know how to select the process of the rogue tab. IIRC xkill kills an application, not necessarily a single process. For the most recent malware, that is overkill. To kill firefox, I might be able to use xkill started from another console. Using top and plain kill seems simpler. BTW SIGSTOPping firefox did not work either. It quit talking to me, but would not leave fullscreen mode. -- Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Fedora 38 wayland login user NO, root Yes
Back in 10/04/2023 I got "Pri Master Hard Disk SMART status BAD" # smartctl -a /dev/sda | more Western Digital VelociRaptor WDC WD3000GLFS-01F8U0 SATA 2.5 3.0 Gb/s 1 rpm ... health test result: FAILED! failure less than 24 hours SAVE ALL DATA ... Vendor Specific SMART Attributes.. ID NAME ... WHEN_FAILED RAW_VLAUE ... 5 Reallocated_Secor_Ct FAILING NOW 548 So, I got a new hard disk and installed from KDE Live. ( Fedora XFCE Live 38 could not be installed. Lots of: Timed out for waiting the udev queue being empty ) I then "dnf update" This is my first attempt at using Wayland ... always been an X.org guy. Installed xterm, started xterm, system crashed. Now, I get the login GUI screen, but I can not login as a user; the screen goes blank and then returns to the login screen. But, I can login as 'root' (Super User). Also, I can ssh in as the user and from root login in a terminal I can su to the user. Running lspci I see: VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT218 [GeForce 210] (rev a2) Any help would be appreciated Richard ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Monitors
ok. that makes a bit more sense. And by KVM he means just keyboard-mouse since he has 2 monitors and does not need the video and/or the video is separated by monitor. I am not sure what he is trying to do given this setup. Depending on what he is trying to do, there may be easier ways to do what he wants. Then the question becomes what will X/wayland allow you to separate. With 2 separate video cards of some sort that should be safer, I am not sure 2 X/wayland instances would play nice with the same video card but underlying 2 monitors. On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 8:31 AM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Fri, 2023-10-06 at 05:55 -0500, Roger Heflin wrote: > > I don't believe KVM allows separation by video port. I think you can > > only give a KVM the entire card. And even if KVM allowed you to give > > it a single port I think X/Wayland assumes total control of the card > > and cards ram (I could be wrong, but that would require knowing about > > the 2nd instance and playing nice with each other, and that seems > > like > > a lot of work so, and even if it was done it probably does not work > > right).I don't think #1 will work, #4 would work so long as you > > have 2 usb-c converters. > > > > What are you doing inside the KVM that you need to give it a real > > video card? Or does the virtual one simply work that bad? > > > > I suspect some confusion about the meaning of KVM. I think the OP means > a physical Keyboard-Video-Mouse switch, not the kernel virtual machine > system. > > poc > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Monitors
On Fri, 2023-10-06 at 05:55 -0500, Roger Heflin wrote: > I don't believe KVM allows separation by video port. I think you can > only give a KVM the entire card. And even if KVM allowed you to give > it a single port I think X/Wayland assumes total control of the card > and cards ram (I could be wrong, but that would require knowing about > the 2nd instance and playing nice with each other, and that seems > like > a lot of work so, and even if it was done it probably does not work > right). I don't think #1 will work, #4 would work so long as you > have 2 usb-c converters. > > What are you doing inside the KVM that you need to give it a real > video card? Or does the virtual one simply work that bad? > I suspect some confusion about the meaning of KVM. I think the OP means a physical Keyboard-Video-Mouse switch, not the kernel virtual machine system. poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Monitors
I don't believe KVM allows separation by video port. I think you can only give a KVM the entire card. And even if KVM allowed you to give it a single port I think X/Wayland assumes total control of the card and cards ram (I could be wrong, but that would require knowing about the 2nd instance and playing nice with each other, and that seems like a lot of work so, and even if it was done it probably does not work right).I don't think #1 will work, #4 would work so long as you have 2 usb-c converters. What are you doing inside the KVM that you need to give it a real video card? Or does the virtual one simply work that bad? I am also not sure how well the USB3 video cards work on linux, and on a desktop machine there tend to be no real usb-c ports (at least on the ones I have). On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 2:47 AM Patrick Dupre wrote: > > Hello, > > I plan to install a KVM for 2 monitors. > One machine has a VGA/DVI on the motherboard, and the other one has 2 DP. > Both monitors are VGA/DVI/DP > I have to replace the VGA out by a DP. > What would be the best option: > 1) Add a DP video card on the PCIExpress bus (and use the DVI of the > motherboard) > 2) Add a dual port DP/DP (or DP/DVI) video card on the PCIExpress (using none > port of the motherboard) > 3) Add a USB-C port on the PCIExpress and a USB-C -> DP converter (and use > the DVI of the motherboard) > 4) Add a dual USB-C (on the PCIExpress) and 1 USB-C -> DVI and 1 USB-C -> DP > converter. > > The KVM2 could be DP/DP or DP/DVI. > > I guess that fedora could manage the dual monitors correctly. > > Thanks > > === > Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdu...@gmx.com > === > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: How do I stop this malware
Technically it does, you just have to figure out what the os process is and kill it, each tab is a separate os process.I have killed weather channel with kill -9 many times(it is easy to find it as it leaks ram and is the only multiple-gb firefox thread). If you have a 2nd firefox window open (and can switch to it) then you can do "about:performance" it will list all of the separate processes/tabs and you can click on X and that one tab goes empty/stops and you can go back to the original firefox window and x the tab itself without reloading it. On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 9:10 PM Joe Wulf via users wrote: > > FF doesn't provide the fidelity to kill 'just one tab'. > > On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 10:06:30 PM EDT, Michael Hennebry > wrote: > > > On Thu, 5 Oct 2023, Roger Heflin wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 1:11?PM Michael Hennebry > > wrote: > >> > >> On Sat, 30 Sep 2023, George N. White III wrote: > >> > >>> On Sat, Sep 30, 2023 at 11:19?AM Michael Hennebry < > >>> henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu> wrote: > >> > >>> This is trying to cure the disease by eliminating a symptom. You don't > >>> know what is > >>> happening behind that full screen. > >> > >> Going fullscreen is part if what makes > >> it hard to even try to make it go away. > >> > >> The malware does three things: > >> 1. It shows an image. > >> 2. It goes fullscreen. > >> 3. It disables buttons. > >> > >> Preventing 1 would seem a really bad idea. > >> I'd like to prevent 2 or 3. > > > > Did you try alt-tab to switch to another application (say a terminal) > > to kill the tab from the command line? > > > > I don't think the full screen trick inside firefox can stop that, and > > I think I have hit a few of these half-assed websites before, but > > alt-tab must have worked for me to bypass them and kill the tab. > > I can switch to another virtual console, > but do not know how to kill just one tab. > I can got out of it by disconnecting the ethernet cable, > but would rather disconnect with the GUI. > > -- > Michael henne...@mail.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu > "Occasionally irrational explanations are required" -- Luke Roman > > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: 4k video playback on some videos makes entire system sluggish
On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 9:01 PM Alex wrote: > > Hi, > >> You might try uninstalling mesa-va-drivers and replacing with this: >> mesa-va-drivers-freeworld >> >> one of my 2 machines was ok and a 2nd one looked closer to what yours >> looked like. >> >> And replacing with freeworld it now looks much better and has a lot >> more accelerators. > > > I've done that, and now it definitely appears to have more support, but alas, > it made no difference. > > $ vainfo The.Equalizer.mkv > Trying display: wayland > Trying display: x11 > libva info: VA-API version 1.18.0 > libva info: Trying to open /usr/lib64/dri/radeonsi_drv_video.so > libva info: Found init function __vaDriverInit_1_18 > libva info: va_openDriver() returns 0 > vainfo: VA-API version: 1.18 (libva 2.18.2) > vainfo: Driver version: Mesa Gallium driver 23.1.8 for AMD Radeon RX 570 > Series (polaris10, LLVM 16.0.6, DRM 3.54, 6.5.5-200.fc38.x86_64) > vainfo: Supported profile and entrypoints > VAProfileMPEG2Simple: VAEntrypointVLD > VAProfileMPEG2Main : VAEntrypointVLD > VAProfileVC1Simple : VAEntrypointVLD > VAProfileVC1Main: VAEntrypointVLD > VAProfileVC1Advanced: VAEntrypointVLD > VAProfileH264ConstrainedBaseline: VAEntrypointVLD > VAProfileH264ConstrainedBaseline: VAEntrypointEncSlice > VAProfileH264Main : VAEntrypointVLD > VAProfileH264Main : VAEntrypointEncSlice > VAProfileH264High : VAEntrypointVLD > VAProfileH264High : VAEntrypointEncSlice > VAProfileHEVCMain : VAEntrypointVLD > VAProfileHEVCMain : VAEntrypointEncSlice > VAProfileHEVCMain10 : VAEntrypointVLD > VAProfileJPEGBaseline : VAEntrypointVLD > VAProfileNone : VAEntrypointVideoProc > > I also just tried to play two regular 1080p videos at the same time using > vlc, and it also showed the same problem where the system becomes effectively > unusable. > Did you reboot after that?The driver is loaded by vainfo (and bypasses X11), but I also believe the original driver is also loaded by X11/Wayland and is still in memory when used via X11/Wayland. I also found that some video tools (default mplayer) do not use vaapi. And there are also ffmpeg versions in fedora/updates and a different one with more free but not quite free 3rd-party licensed in rpmfusion (ffmpeg-free vs ffmpeg) ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Anyone using 5G as their internet access method?
Another drawback might be that you can’t access your home server or desktop while on the road. You can't configure port sharing or a VPN endpoint like you can on your landline router. > Am 06.10.2023 um 06:58 schrieb Jeffrey Walton : > > On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 11:15 AM stan via users > wrote: >> >> I recently received an offer from T-mobile to use their 5G network as >> my main internet access. It was contingent on a contract for phone >> with them, but the price and speed for internet was competitive. Has >> anyone done this using fedora, or I suppose, any other system? Horror >> stories or kudos? The main drawback I could see was that it was a lot >> like early cable, where the bandwidth depended on the number of users >> on your branch. If it was just me, I have the whole pipe, and it would >> be awesome. Ten others and me, and not so hot as we shared the bandwidth >> among us. > > I used T-Mobile and a hotspot for internet access while on-prem at a > customer's site in New York City (Manhattan) back around 2011 to about > 2012 or 2013. It was a 4G network back then. I used the hotspot to > avoid using the customer's network, and its Data Loss Prevention (DLP) > program. > > T-Mobile regularly dropped my data connections when the network got > bogged down (presumably with voice calls). > > Your internet and data traffic on a 5G connection will likely be a > second class citizen with no quality of service guarantees. In fact, > it probably won't even meet 5G standards, which I believe is 20 GB/s > burst and 1 GB/s download speed. If I recall correctly, there are > loopholes built into the marketing so carriers can claim they provide > the standard even though they don't meet the specification. Or that's > what I found back in the 4G days. > > Jeff > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue -- Peter Boy https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pboy p...@fedoraproject.org Timezone: CET (UTC+1) / CEST (UTC+2) Fedora Server Edition Working Group member Fedora Docs team contributor and board member Java developer and enthusiast ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: 4k video playback on some videos makes entire system sluggish
On 6/10/23 08:27, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2023-10-06 at 08:20 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: On 6/10/23 07:04, Roger Heflin wrote: You might try uninstalling mesa-va-drivers and replacing with this: mesa-va-drivers-freeworld one of my 2 machines was ok and a 2nd one looked closer to what yours looked like. And replacing with freeworld it now looks much better and has a lot more accelerators. Hi Roger, just a silly question for my benefit, what information in the mediainfo output that Alex supplied, confirms that the video actually is 4K? Presumably these lines: Width: 3 840 pixels Height : 1 608 pixels Display aspect ratio : 2.40:1 Thanks Patrick, I didn't see those lines when I looked, and I looked multiple times. regards, Steve poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue OpenPGP_0x594338B1DE179AB2.asc Description: OpenPGP public key OpenPGP_signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: F38 installer claims it cannot find a hard disk
On 6/10/23 13:12, Michael Hennebry wrote: I burned the F38 workstation installer onto a DVD. On booting it can find my home directory on the only hard disk. When I tell the installer to install, it claims it cannot find a hard drive. Grrr. The first time I got the message, I just rebooted. On the second boot, I looked for my home directory and found it. I even looked at some images, so I know it was atually reading files. When I told it to install, no go. To do the install you have to point the installer at a partition you have specified as the root (/) mount point for it to install to. As part of you can also point it at your /home partition and tell it that is the /home mount point. You may also have to create a 100MB partition for the uefi partition if you are installing on a uefi system. regards, Steve Suggestions? Requests for more data? OpenPGP_0x594338B1DE179AB2.asc Description: OpenPGP public key OpenPGP_signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Monitors
Hello, I plan to install a KVM for 2 monitors. One machine has a VGA/DVI on the motherboard, and the other one has 2 DP. Both monitors are VGA/DVI/DP I have to replace the VGA out by a DP. What would be the best option: 1) Add a DP video card on the PCIExpress bus (and use the DVI of the motherboard) 2) Add a dual port DP/DP (or DP/DVI) video card on the PCIExpress (using none port of the motherboard) 3) Add a USB-C port on the PCIExpress and a USB-C -> DP converter (and use the DVI of the motherboard) 4) Add a dual USB-C (on the PCIExpress) and 1 USB-C -> DVI and 1 USB-C -> DP converter. The KVM2 could be DP/DP or DP/DVI. I guess that fedora could manage the dual monitors correctly. Thanks === Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdu...@gmx.com === ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
