Re: Disabling lockscreen in GNOME for specific apps?

[Frederic Muller]

On 04/12/2023 13:05, Tim via users wrote:

On Sun, 2023-12-03 at 21:23 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote:

It's because you're using sudo and the root user doesn't have a dbus
session to Gnome.

If you really have to use sudo (why?), try putting it after the inhibit
command.
gnome-session-inhibit sudo FPVFreerider.x86_64

Running a game as root?!  Not a good idea!
  


Well it didn't run either way... hence my question. As I said I thought 
it would be the executable in a kind of database.


Fred
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Re: Disabling lockscreen in GNOME for specific apps?

[Frederic Muller]

On 04/12/2023 12:23, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 12/3/23 21:18, Frederic Muller wrote:

On 03/12/2023 19:45, olivares33561 via users wrote:
On Sunday, December 3rd, 2023 at 6:37 AM, olivares33561 via users 
 wrote:

If you can please try
$ gnome-sessikn-inhibit command-to-run-your-app


gnome-session-inhibit. The command was a typo sorry sent from phone

should do the job. If it doesn't work please let us know.


Thank you very much for the prompt reply. I tried this and got that:

gnome-session-inhibit FPVFreerider.x86_64
Failed to execute FPVFreerider.x86_64
fred@fedora:~/fpv/Freerider$ sudo gnome-session-inhibit 
FPVFreerider.x86_64

[sudo] password for fred:

** (gnome-session-inhibit:18376): WARNING **: 12:13:29.047: Failed to 
call Inhibit: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: 
The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files


Could it be because I didn't make any .desktop file?


It's because you're using sudo and the root user doesn't have a dbus 
session to Gnome.


If you really have to use sudo (why?), try putting it after the 
inhibit command.

gnome-session-inhibit sudo FPVFreerider.x86_64

Oh i got it. I used sudo the second time as it didn't run the 
application. I thought it would be actually set forever. I now 
understand it's the way to launch the application...


Great! I'll run it and see if it works. And if I don't reply it means it 
did work.


Thank you very much.

Fred
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Re: Disabling lockscreen in GNOME for specific apps?

[Tim via users]

On Sun, 2023-12-03 at 21:23 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> It's because you're using sudo and the root user doesn't have a dbus 
> session to Gnome.
> 
> If you really have to use sudo (why?), try putting it after the inhibit 
> command.
> gnome-session-inhibit sudo FPVFreerider.x86_64

Running a game as root?!  Not a good idea!
 
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Re: Disabling lockscreen in GNOME for specific apps?

[Samuel Sieb]

On 12/3/23 21:18, Frederic Muller wrote:

On 03/12/2023 19:45, olivares33561 via users wrote:
On Sunday, December 3rd, 2023 at 6:37 AM, olivares33561 via users 
 wrote:

If you can please try
$ gnome-sessikn-inhibit command-to-run-your-app


gnome-session-inhibit. The command was a typo sorry sent from phone

should do the job. If it doesn't work please let us know.


Thank you very much for the prompt reply. I tried this and got that:

gnome-session-inhibit FPVFreerider.x86_64
Failed to execute FPVFreerider.x86_64
fred@fedora:~/fpv/Freerider$ sudo gnome-session-inhibit FPVFreerider.x86_64
[sudo] password for fred:

** (gnome-session-inhibit:18376): WARNING **: 12:13:29.047: Failed to 
call Inhibit: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The 
name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files


Could it be because I didn't make any .desktop file?


It's because you're using sudo and the root user doesn't have a dbus 
session to Gnome.


If you really have to use sudo (why?), try putting it after the inhibit 
command.

gnome-session-inhibit sudo FPVFreerider.x86_64
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Re: Disabling lockscreen in GNOME for specific apps?

[Frederic Muller]

On 03/12/2023 19:45, olivares33561 via users wrote:

On Sunday, December 3rd, 2023 at 6:37 AM, olivares33561 via users 
 wrote:


On Sunday, December 3rd, 2023 at 3:06 AM, Frederic Muller f...@cm17.com wrote:



Hi!

I run a simulator which is just an executable downloaded from the
developers website and unfortunately the screen locks after 5 minutes
... forcing to quickly press a key (hoping it won't do anything
unexpected with the simulator) and ... usually crash.

Is there a way to disable the lockscreen just for this app under GNOME?

Thank you.

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If you can please try
$ gnome-sessikn-inhibit command-to-run-your-app


gnome-session-inhibit. The command was a typo sorry sent from phone

should do the job. If it doesn't work please let us know.


Thank you very much for the prompt reply. I tried this and got that:

gnome-session-inhibit FPVFreerider.x86_64
Failed to execute FPVFreerider.x86_64
fred@fedora:~/fpv/Freerider$ sudo gnome-session-inhibit FPVFreerider.x86_64
[sudo] password for fred:

** (gnome-session-inhibit:18376): WARNING **: 12:13:29.047: Failed to 
call Inhibit: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The 
name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files


Could it be because I didn't make any .desktop file?

Thank you.

Fred
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Re: printer only prints in flip mode

[Michael Hennebry]

On Sun, 3 Dec 2023, Neal Becker wrote:


I have a similar-sounding brother laserprinter.  I hate to say it, but I
found the available open-source driver didn't produce correct output with
mine, I had to use the proprietary driver from
brother: hll2395dwpdrv-4.0.0-1.i386.rpm


Nope.  Didn't work either.
Brother's driver made it stop printing altogether,
apparently put it in the state noted in my "pretends to print" thread.
Even though I had the brlaser package installed,
I decided to try the source version.
I unplugged the printer, updated the repository I already had,
and built according to instructions.
For install, I did not directly use sudo.
Instead I changed the ownership of the target directories
and changed them back after installation.
After reconnecting the printer, still no go,
not with the orginal name,
nor with the fedora-generated name.
Just for grins, I deleted both printers and put one back.
Now it prints correctly.

I hate these mighty struggles,
but at least I won this one.

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Re: Python code error in F39, but not in F38

[Ranjan Maitra via users]

On Sun Dec03'23 01:51:24PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> From: Samuel Sieb 
> Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2023 13:51:24 -0800
> To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
> Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users 
> Subject: Re: Python code error in F39, but not in F38
>
> On 11/19/23 08:25, Ranjan Maitra via users wrote:
> > I was running the code here: 
> > https://github.com/maitra/Visual-Information-Fidelity---Python3
> >
> > However, the code runs in F38 (python 3.11) without error, but not in F39 
> > (python 3.12) where it
> > ends with a segmentation fault (after doing the calculations).
>
> I just upgraded my system to F39, so I tested this code and it worked fine
> with no crashes.  Did you rebuild the shared library after upgrading?

Wow, that is weird! But good to know. As to your question, yes I did rebuild 
the shared object (library) several times, but that should not matter, right? I 
guess this is local to my F39 machines, but all (three) of them appear to be 
dumping core.

Thanks again, I will try and get to the bottom of it. Perhaps by trying the 
code on a clean F39 installation.

Best wishes,
Ranjan



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Re: Samsung SSD firmware

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sun, 2023-12-03 at 14:38 +0100, Ralf Corsépius wrote:
> Samsung offers OS-independent firmware ISOs for their consumer SSDs.

Turns out it's actually a minimalist Linux system, which is hilarious.

> Download the ISO, put it on USB-stick, boot from the stick and
> install the firmware.

I tried it and got the scary message that the process "WILL OR MAY
DELETE ALL THE DATA ON THE DISK".

"Will or may delete all the data"? WTF does that mean?

I do have backups of my data, but what are the chances I'll have to
reinstall the system if I do this?

poc
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Re: printer only prints in flip mode

[Neal Becker]

I have a similar-sounding brother laserprinter.  I hate to say it, but I
found the available open-source driver didn't produce correct output with
mine, I had to use the proprietary driver from
brother: hll2395dwpdrv-4.0.0-1.i386.rpm

On Sun, Dec 3, 2023 at 4:03 PM Michael Hennebry <
henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu> wrote:

> On Sat, 2 Dec 2023, George N. White III wrote:
>
> > On Sat, Dec 2, 2023 at 12:04?AM Michael Hennebry <
> > henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu> wrote:
> >
> >> My Brother HL-L2360DW B laser printer
> >> is only printing in flip mode,
> >> i.e., when it prints 8.5x11 two-sided portrait,
> >> to read the back page, one must flip it vertically
> >> by a short side, rather that horizontally by a long edge.
> >>
> >
> > I think there have been changes to the PPD options for this.  How are you
> > connecting the
> > printer -- wifi or USB?
>
> USB
> When I first tried to install the printer,
> there was no option for this model.
>
> >> The defaults for the printer is set to
> >> job-sheets=none, none media=na_letter_8.5x11in sides=two-sided-long-edge
> >> I've restarted CUPS on F38.
> >> The problem occurs with both gedit and vim.
> >> In the case of gedit, page setup tells me I've set it up correctly,
> >> but it still does the wrong thing.
>
> > Is this a new install or was the printer working under Fedora in the
> past?
>
> In worked under F35.
>
> > That printer claims to support AirPrint, so should work with IPP
> > Everywhere, but there are
> > also legacy CUPS PPD files
>
> I have a separately downloaded brother-HLL2360D-cups-en.ppd from 2020.
> Apparently it did not work.
>
> With F35, I had to download and build some code, brlaser, to make it work.
> With F38, I am using package printer-driver-brlaser.x86_64 from updates.
> Said package apparently defined "Model"
> Brother HL-L2360D series, using brlaser v6 (en)  .
> The "Model" listed as current lacks the (en) .
>
> > See: 
> >
>
> > See: 
>
> Not seeing a lot info information on either site.
> The latter seems to link to the source that was rpm'ed to make
> printer-driver-brlaser.x86_64 .
> Despite the name, I do not see memtion of specific problems.
>
> I really hate the poke it and see what happens method of repair,
> but I might be reduced to it.
>
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Re: Python code error in F39, but not in F38

[Samuel Sieb]

On 11/19/23 08:25, Ranjan Maitra via users wrote:

I was running the code here: 
https://github.com/maitra/Visual-Information-Fidelity---Python3

However, the code runs in F38 (python 3.11) without error, but not in F39 
(python 3.12) where it
ends with a segmentation fault (after doing the calculations).


I just upgraded my system to F39, so I tested this code and it worked 
fine with no crashes.  Did you rebuild the shared library after upgrading?

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Re: printer only prints in flip mode

[Michael Hennebry]

On Sat, 2 Dec 2023, George N. White III wrote:


On Sat, Dec 2, 2023 at 12:04?AM Michael Hennebry <
henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu> wrote:


My Brother HL-L2360DW B laser printer
is only printing in flip mode,
i.e., when it prints 8.5x11 two-sided portrait,
to read the back page, one must flip it vertically
by a short side, rather that horizontally by a long edge.



I think there have been changes to the PPD options for this.  How are you
connecting the
printer -- wifi or USB?


USB
When I first tried to install the printer,
there was no option for this model.


The defaults for the printer is set to
job-sheets=none, none media=na_letter_8.5x11in sides=two-sided-long-edge
I've restarted CUPS on F38.
The problem occurs with both gedit and vim.
In the case of gedit, page setup tells me I've set it up correctly,
but it still does the wrong thing.



Is this a new install or was the printer working under Fedora in the past?


In worked under F35.


That printer claims to support AirPrint, so should work with IPP
Everywhere, but there are
also legacy CUPS PPD files


I have a separately downloaded brother-HLL2360D-cups-en.ppd from 2020.
Apparently it did not work.

With F35, I had to download and build some code, brlaser, to make it work.
With F38, I am using package printer-driver-brlaser.x86_64 from updates.
Said package apparently defined "Model"
Brother HL-L2360D series, using brlaser v6 (en)  .
The "Model" listed as current lacks the (en) .


See: 




See: 


Not seeing a lot info information on either site.
The latter seems to link to the source that was rpm'ed to make
printer-driver-brlaser.x86_64 .
Despite the name, I do not see memtion of specific problems.

I really hate the poke it and see what happens method of repair,
but I might be reduced to it.

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Re: Python code error in F39, but not in F38

[Ranjan Maitra via users]

On Sun Dec03'23 01:47:46PM, Barry Scott wrote:
> From: Barry Scott 
> Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2023 13:47:46 +
> To: Community support for Fedora users 
> CC: Ranjan Maitra 
> Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users 
> Subject: Re: Python code error in F39, but not in F38
>
>
>
> > On 2 Dec 2023, at 15:24, Ranjan Maitra via users 
> >  wrote:
> >
> > However, the following: 
> > /usr/src/debug/python3.12-3.12.0-1.fc39.x86_64/Include/internal/pycore_pystate.h:118
> >  file is where the segfault is, and that is in python3-devel. Perhaps  I 
> > just report it there and see where that gets me.
>
> That the victim not the cause.
>
> Its in here that you need to report the problem
>
> #3  0x7fff9e5e292f in sip_api_free (mem=) at 
> /usr/src/debug/sip-4.19.25-9.fc39.x86_64/siplib/siplib.c:2239
> #4  sipOMFinalise (om=0x7fff9e5ff9a0 ) at 
> /usr/src/debug/sip-4.19.25-9.fc39.x86_64/susr/src/debug/python3.12-3.12.0-1.fc39.x86_64/Python/pylifecycle.c:1977
>
> It's this "sip" that you need to report against.
>
> Not sure what you mean by it was not installed, its in the back trace.

Thanks, I never installed it earlier (and now I installed sip6 -- see other 
subthread), The issue is still the same, though. That is what I meant.


> Barry
>
>

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Re: Python code error in F39, but not in F38

[Ranjan Maitra via users]

On Sun Dec03'23 09:38:20AM, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> From: Jeffrey Walton 
> Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2023 09:38:20 -0500
> To: Community support for Fedora users 
> CC: Ranjan Maitra 
> Reply-To: noloa...@gmail.com, Community support for Fedora users
>  
> Subject: Re: Python code error in F39, but not in F38
>
> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 5:21 PM Ranjan Maitra via users
>  wrote:
> >
> > On Wed Nov22'23 09:49:49PM, Barry Scott wrote:
> > > [...]
> > > > On 22 Nov 2023, at 21:32, Barry Scott  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Any suggestions as to what is going wrong here?
> > > >
> > > > At this point you need get more information.
> > > >
> > > > What do the folllowing GDB commands print?
> > > >
> > > > p tstate
> > > > p tstate->interp
> > > > thread allow all bt
> > > Doh...
> > >
> > >   thread apply all bt
> > >
> > > I always type:
> > >   t a a bt
> > >
> > > and typo'ed the expansion.
> >
> > Thanks, here is what comes out:
> >
> >  (gdb)  p tstate->interp
> >
> >  value has been optimized out
> >  (gdb) thread apply all bt
> >
> >  Thread 1 (Thread 0x77ec7740 (LWP 387946) "python"):
> >  #0  0x779e4b5b in _PyInterpreterState_GET () at 
> > /usr/src/debug/python3.12-3.12.0-1.fc39.x86_64/Include/internal/pycore_pystate.h:118
> >  #1  get_state () at 
> > /usr/src/debug/python3.12-3.12.0-1.fc39.x86_64/Objects/obmalloc.c:866
> >  #2  _PyObject_Free (ctx=, p=0x56d898a0) at 
> > /usr/src/debug/python3.12-3.12.0-1.fc39.x86_64/Objects/obmalloc.c:1850
> >  #3  0x7fff9e5e292f in sip_api_free (mem=) at 
> > /usr/src/debug/sip-4.19.25-9.fc39.x86_64/siplib/siplib.c:2239
> >  #4  sipOMFinalise (om=0x7fff9e5ff9a0 ) at 
> > /usr/src/debug/sip-4.19.25-9.fc39.x86_64/susr/src/debug/python3.12-3.12.0-1.fc39.x86_64/Python/pylifecycle.c:1977
>
> sip-4.19 is from 2018. The Python folks will probably tell you to
> update to something newer, like sip-6.7. Also see
> .

Thank you for this! I have no idea where sip gets pulled from, because
it was not installed in the system.

So I went ahead and installed sip6 via:

sudo dnf install sip6
 # brings in sip-6.7.12.

I get:

(gdb) run ./test.py statlab.tiff statlab-8-rgb.png 1 5
 Starting program: /usr/bin/python ./test.py statlab.tiff statlab-8-rgb.png 1 5
 Downloading separate debug info for system-supplied DSO at 0x77fc7000
 [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
 Using host libthread_db library "/lib64/libthread_db.so.1".
 [New Thread 0x7fff9c39b6c0 (LWP 6832)]<2-t_��>ý 
v:lua.cmp.utils.feedkeys.call.run(12)
,
 [New Thread 0x7fff9bb9a6c0 (LWP 6833)]
 [New Thread 0x7fff9b3996c0 (LWP 6834)]
 [New Thread 0x7fff91d856c0 (LWP 6835)]
 [New Thread 0x7fff915846c0 (LWP 6836)]
 [New Thread 0x7fff90d836c0 (LWP 6837)]
 [New Thread 0x7fff905826c0 (LWP 6838)]
 0.5003370299685227

 Thread 1 "python" received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
 0x779e4b5b in _PyInterpreterState_GET ()
 at 
/usr/src/debug/python3.12-3.12.0-1.fc39.x86_64/Include/internal/pycore_pystate.h:118
 118 return tstate->interp;

(gdb) p tstate
 $1 = 

(gdb) p tstate->interp
 value has been optimized out

I get:

(gdb) thread apply all bt

 Thread 8 (Thread 0x7fff905826c0 (LWP 6838) "python"):
 #0  futex_wait (val=128, addr=0x55d99b84) at 
../../../libgomp/config/linux/x86/futex.h:97
 #1  do_wait (val=128, addr=) at 
../../../libgomp/config/linux/wait.h:67
 #2  gomp_barrier_wait_end (bar=0x55d99b80, state=128) at 
../../../libgomp/config/linux/bar.c:48
 #3  0x7fffe95cdd28 in gomp_simple_barrier_wait (bar=0x55d99b80) at 
../../../libgomp/config/posix/simple-bar.h:60
 #4  gomp_thread_start (xdata=) at ../../../libgomp/team.c:133
 #5  0x776ac897 in start_thread (arg=) at 
pthread_create.c:444
 #6  0x777336bc in clone3 () at 
../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/clone3.S:78

 Thread 7 (Thread 0x7fff90d836c0 (LWP 6837) "python"):
 #0  futex_wait (val=128, addr=0x55d99b84) at 
../../../libgomp/config/linux/x86/futex.h:97
 #1  do_wait (val=128, addr=) at 
../../../libgomp/config/linux/wait.h:67
 #2  gomp_barrier_wait_end (bar=0x55d99b80, state=128) at 
../../../libgomp/config/linux/bar.c:48
 #3  0x7fffe95cdd28 in gomp_simple_barrier_wait (bar=0x55d99b80) at 
../../../libgomp/config/posix/simple-bar.h:60
 #4  gomp_thread_start (xdata=) at ../../../libgomp/team.c:133
 #5  0x776ac897 in start_thread (arg=) at 
pthread_create.c:444
 #6  0x777336bc in clone3 () at 
../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/clone3.S:78

 Thread 6 (Thread 0x7fff915846c0 (LWP 6836) "python"):
 #0  futex_wait (val=128, addr=0x55d99b84) at 
../../../libgomp/config/linux/x86/futex.h:97
 #1  do_wait (val=128, addr=) at 
../../../libgomp/config/linux/wait.h:67
 #2  gomp_barrier_wait_end (bar=0x55d99b80, state=128) at 
../../../libgomp/config/linux/bar.c:48
 #3  0x7fffe95cdd28 in gomp_simple_barrier_wait (bar=0x55d99b80) at 
../../../libgomp/config/posix/simple-bar.h:60
 #4  

Re: Samsung SSD firmware

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sun, 2023-12-03 at 07:22 -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 3, 2023 at 7:16 AM Patrick O'Callaghan
>  wrote:
> > 
> > I have a 2TB Samsung 860 EVO SSD as my main drive. It's working
> > well,
> > but Samsung released updated firmware since I got it, and their
> > update
> > tool only works under Windows.
> > 
> > Any suggestions on how I could update the SSD? (I know, "if it's
> > not
> > broken, don't fix it" :-)
> 
> I understand some of the EVO's need the firmware update. Otherwise
> they die an early death.
> 
> Give this a try. It is part of my "full update" scripts". It updated
> a
> EVO 970 SSD I installed in a laptop in early October.
> 
> if [[ -n $(command -v fwupdmgr 2>/dev/null) ]]; then
>    if [[ -n $(fwupdmgr get-devices 2>&1 | grep 'UEFI ESRT device')
> ]]; then
>    echo "Updating firmware"
>    fwupdmgr refresh 1>/dev/null && fwupdmgr update 1>/dev/null
>    fi
> fi

It told me updates weren't available for the SSD. Now trying the
Samsung ISO suggested by Ralf.

poc
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Re: Samsung SSD firmware

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sun, 2023-12-03 at 14:38 +0100, Ralf Corsépius wrote:
> Am 03.12.23 um 13:16 schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan:
> > I have a 2TB Samsung 860 EVO SSD as my main drive. It's working
> > well,
> > but Samsung released updated firmware since I got it, and their
> > update
> > tool only works under Windows.
> 
> Samsung offers OS-independent firmware ISOs for their consumer SSDs.
> 
> Download the ISO, put it on USB-stick, boot from the stick and
> install 
> the firmware.
> 
> 

I wasn't aware of that, thanks.


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Re: Samsung SSD firmware

[old sixpack13]

> 
> Any suggestions on how I could update the SSD? (I know, "if it's not
> broken, don't fix it" :-)
> 

ventoy => win iso > magician

but check before if the FW fits with your ssd's buildin controller, e.g. for 
970 EVO plus the controller has changed => newer FW, but no update for elder 
970 EVO Plus
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Re: how to remove unwanted old kernels.

[old sixpack13]

> On 12/1/23 17:23, old sixpack13 wrote:
> 
> Not quite.  

Hrmph ...

;-)
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Re: Modern Dual-Boot Setup Prcoedure (Dell XPS)

[George N. White III]

On Sun, Dec 3, 2023 at 8:35 AM Neal Becker  wrote:

>
> About 1 yr back I installed fedora onto my wife's dell laptop with windows
> 10 for
>
dual boot.  Despite significant and lengthy efforts to follow online guides
> to get
>
windows to free up space I never got that to work - windows never gave up
> the
>
space.  In the end installed into a spare 2G partition instead.
>

At work we had a "mission critical" application that was developed on
IRIX64 and
ported to linux and macOS, but not Windows.  Since Windows was the
"enterprise
standard" I've configured many systems for dual boot.  That sometimes
required moving files out of the primary Windows partition to a network
server or
removable drive to allow shrinking the Windows filesystem.   These days,
enterprise
Windows used encrypted drives managed by IT.  The "mission critical"
application
runs in WSL (and users realized that many other applications run faster in
WSL
than they do in Windows).

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Re: Python code error in F39, but not in F38

[Jeffrey Walton]

On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 5:21 PM Ranjan Maitra via users
 wrote:
>
> On Wed Nov22'23 09:49:49PM, Barry Scott wrote:
> > [...]
> > > On 22 Nov 2023, at 21:32, Barry Scott  wrote:
> > >
> > >> Any suggestions as to what is going wrong here?
> > >
> > > At this point you need get more information.
> > >
> > > What do the folllowing GDB commands print?
> > >
> > > p tstate
> > > p tstate->interp
> > > thread allow all bt
> > Doh...
> >
> >   thread apply all bt
> >
> > I always type:
> >   t a a bt
> >
> > and typo'ed the expansion.
>
> Thanks, here is what comes out:
>
>  (gdb)  p tstate->interp
>
>  value has been optimized out
>  (gdb) thread apply all bt
>
>  Thread 1 (Thread 0x77ec7740 (LWP 387946) "python"):
>  #0  0x779e4b5b in _PyInterpreterState_GET () at 
> /usr/src/debug/python3.12-3.12.0-1.fc39.x86_64/Include/internal/pycore_pystate.h:118
>  #1  get_state () at 
> /usr/src/debug/python3.12-3.12.0-1.fc39.x86_64/Objects/obmalloc.c:866
>  #2  _PyObject_Free (ctx=, p=0x56d898a0) at 
> /usr/src/debug/python3.12-3.12.0-1.fc39.x86_64/Objects/obmalloc.c:1850
>  #3  0x7fff9e5e292f in sip_api_free (mem=) at 
> /usr/src/debug/sip-4.19.25-9.fc39.x86_64/siplib/siplib.c:2239
>  #4  sipOMFinalise (om=0x7fff9e5ff9a0 ) at 
> /usr/src/debug/sip-4.19.25-9.fc39.x86_64/susr/src/debug/python3.12-3.12.0-1.fc39.x86_64/Python/pylifecycle.c:1977

sip-4.19 is from 2018. The Python folks will probably tell you to
update to something newer, like sip-6.7. Also see
.

>  #8  0x77ab6337 in Py_RunMain () at 
> /usr/src/debug/python3.12-3.12.0-1.fc39.x86_64/Modules/main.c:691
>  #9  0x77a7185c in Py_BytesMain (argc=, 
> argv=) at 
> /usr/src/debug/python3.12-3.12.0-1.fc39.x86_64/Modules/main.c:743
>  #10 0x7764614a in __libc_start_call_main 
> (main=main@entry=0x5160

Interesting... You are missing stack frames 5, 6 and 7. You have 0-4,
and 8-10. That may indicate an issue with GDB.

Jeff
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Re: Python code error in F39, but not in F38

[Barry Scott]

> On 2 Dec 2023, at 15:24, Ranjan Maitra via users 
>  wrote:
> 
> However, the following: 
> /usr/src/debug/python3.12-3.12.0-1.fc39.x86_64/Include/internal/pycore_pystate.h:118
>  file is where the segfault is, and that is in python3-devel. Perhaps  I just 
> report it there and see where that gets me.

That the victim not the cause.

Its in here that you need to report the problem

#3  0x7fff9e5e292f in sip_api_free (mem=) at 
/usr/src/debug/sip-4.19.25-9.fc39.x86_64/siplib/siplib.c:2239
#4  sipOMFinalise (om=0x7fff9e5ff9a0 ) at 
/usr/src/debug/sip-4.19.25-9.fc39.x86_64/susr/src/debug/python3.12-3.12.0-1.fc39.x86_64/Python/pylifecycle.c:1977

It's this "sip" that you need to report against.

Not sure what you mean by it was not installed, its in the back trace.

Barry


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Re: Black screen after login to F39

[Barry Scott]

> On 2 Dec 2023, at 09:40, Barry Scott  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On 30 Nov 2023, at 17:36, Michael Eager  wrote:
>> 
>> I upgraded from Fedora 38 to Fedora 39 on an AMD Ryzen 5 5600
>> with Nvidia Geforce RTX 3050 graphics card.  I'm running KDE
>> Plasma-X11, not Wayland.
>> 
>> I tried to install the GPU drivers several ways using repos/RPMs,
>> but was not successful.  I am using the Nvidia proprietary
>> drivers.  They support dual monitors with no problems; I've had
>> problems with the nouveau driver and dual monitors in the past.
>> 
>> I start the system in multi-user (CLI) mode and then run "startx"
>> to start X11 and Plasma.  (I started doing this in F38 because of
>> sddm hanging, which I was not able to resolve.)
>> 
>> When I log in with my user account and run startx, I get a black
>> screen (extending across both monitors) with an X cursor.  The
>> cursor moves in response to the mouse, but neither left or right
>> mouse button do anything. I can get to an alternate console
>> using alt-F3 and kill the login.
>> 
>> I have discovered a bit of a rain dance to get a working system.  I
>> can log in as root, run startx, and get a working KDE Plasma-X11
>> screen.  Then I log out to the sddm screen and log in again with
>> my user account.  After this, everything (or almost everything)
>> works correctly.
>> 
>> I've checked the system logs and the Xorg log for any error
>> or warning messages, but nothing looks incorrect or at all
>> informative.
>> 
>> Does anyone have any suggestions or insights into this problem?
> 
> I was finding that X11 was less stable then wayland recently.
> It seems that some update made plasma unstable.
> There are kde plasma and nvidia update happening at the same time.
> I'm trying to report the issues and figure out which of the nvidia drivers
> and kde is at fault.
> 
> I have downgraded to the 535 nvidia drivers and that sort of helped.
> But what seems to be helping is downgrading kde.
> 
> Do thing improve for you if you do dnf downgrade kde-wayland?
> Yes I noticed you are on X11 - but see if this helps.
> If it does please follow up here. Also report what version of nvidia
> drivers your using please.
> 
> Barry

Following up on this.

The 545 drive is not the problem, it is a change in the last kde update.
dnf downgrade kde-wayland got me back to working.

Barry


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Re: [solved] my function keys for sound up and down do not work, brightness does something else

[Roger Heflin]

On Sun, Dec 3, 2023 at 1:32 AM Frederic Muller  wrote:
>
> On 03/12/2023 14:07, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> > On 12/2/23 20:04, Frederic Muller wrote:
> >> As the title says some of my functions key do not work or not
> >> properly. I checked in keyboard customized shortcuts, media, all are
> >> disabled.
> >
> > I assume only the laptop keyboard has the brightness function. That is
> > usually handled completely differently than through the keyboard
> > interface.  Check the logs and see if there are any messages when you
> > press the brightness keys.
> > --
>
> Actually my laptop just got serviced and the function keys are available
> directly with pressing Fn key first. I used to invert this previously
> which is why it was no longer working.
>

How those keys work is controlled by the bios.  Likely when servicing
they reset to the default bios settings and/or a new bios was
installed and the default changed.

Go into the bios and you should find an option that controls what
action occurs without the fn key and what requires the fn key.
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Re: Samsung SSD firmware

[Ralf Corsépius]

Am 03.12.23 um 13:16 schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan:

I have a 2TB Samsung 860 EVO SSD as my main drive. It's working well,
but Samsung released updated firmware since I got it, and their update
tool only works under Windows.


Samsung offers OS-independent firmware ISOs for their consumer SSDs.

Download the ISO, put it on USB-stick, boot from the stick and install 
the firmware.


https://semiconductor.samsung.com/consumer-storage/support/tools/
(Scroll down to "fireware" and expand the dropdown menu)


Any suggestions on how I could update the SSD? (I know, "if it's not
broken, don't fix it" :-)
You really want to keep your SSD firmware current! There have been 
situations, this had proven essential and vital.


Ralf

P.S: Forget about fwupd. It doesn't support Samsung consumer SSDs and is 
mostly useless on most HW in general.

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Re: NVIDIA RPM DNF Update Issue?

[John Pilkington]

On 03/12/2023 12:37, Michael D. Setzer II wrote:

On 3 Dec 2023 at 10:06, John Pilkington wrote:

Date sent:  Sun, 3 Dec 2023 10:06:32 +
Subject:Re: NVIDIA RPM DNF Update Issue?
From:   John Pilkington 
To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Send reply to:  Community support for Fedora users



On 03/12/2023 09:46, John Pilkington wrote:

On 02/12/2023 23:39, Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote:


Finally got it working, but tried lots of info from different pages,
and would get all kinds of different messages.
Cleared out everything, and tried things until this seems to have
run completely and is now showing the Nvidia GPU being used.



NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-545.29.06.run

That script ran and had no issues, and BOINC is using it, and was
getting stat of 4,000 per day with 6 CPUs, but now with .9 CPU +
GPU is already up to 8,000 and only been about 1/2 day.




So, just a matter of finding right installation process.


So, where did you find it?


My guess is that it's from

https://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Installing_BOINC_on_Fedora

which /does/ refer to Fedora 37...

Site I used??
https://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/216530/en-us/
Gave then

Linux x64 (AMD64/EM64T) Display Driver
  
Version: 	545.29.06

Release Date:   2023.11.22
Operating System:   Linux 64-bit
Language:   English (US)
File Size:  309.67 MB

Just did exact same thing, and gives different link??

Is where I got it after going thru an earlier nvidia page that had
one select OS and card info.

https://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
GeForce
GeForce 10 series
GeForce GTX 1070
Linux 64-bit
Production Branch
English (US)


https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/213194/en-us

Linux x64 (AMD64/EM64T) Display Driver
  
Version: 	535.129.03

Release Date:   2023.10.31
Operating System:   Linux 64-bit
Language:   English (US)
File Size:  325.83 MB

So, not clear why it switched drivers??
Will stick with the newer one that I got earlier??
At moment the statistics was running at 4,000 before, and at
moment is showing current days status at 15,000 so far.
So major improvement in processing speed.



OK, thanks for that info, and I'm glad that SETI is back up to speed for 
you.


But it might be worth noting the contents of (again)

https://rpmfusion.org/Howto/NVIDIA

and specifically the section 'Recover from NVIDIA installer'

which warns that:

The NVIDIA binary driver installer overwrite(s) some configuration and 
libraries.


...which may still be true  :-)

Regards,

John
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Re: Disabling lockscreen in GNOME for specific apps?

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> On Sunday, December 3rd, 2023 at 3:06 AM, Frederic Muller f...@cm17.com wrote:
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> 
> 
> > Hi!
> > 
> > I run a simulator which is just an executable downloaded from the
> > developers website and unfortunately the screen locks after 5 minutes
> > ... forcing to quickly press a key (hoping it won't do anything
> > unexpected with the simulator) and ... usually crash.
> > 
> > Is there a way to disable the lockscreen just for this app under GNOME?
> > 
> > Thank you.
> > 
> > Fred
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> 
> If you can please try
> $ gnome-sessikn-inhibit command-to-run-your-app
> 
gnome-session-inhibit. The command was a typo sorry sent from phone 
> should do the job. If it doesn't work please let us know.
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> 
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Re: NVIDIA RPM DNF Update Issue?

[Michael D. Setzer II via users]

On 3 Dec 2023 at 10:06, John Pilkington wrote:

Date sent:  Sun, 3 Dec 2023 10:06:32 +
Subject:Re: NVIDIA RPM DNF Update Issue?
From:   John Pilkington 
To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Send reply to:  Community support for Fedora users 


> On 03/12/2023 09:46, John Pilkington wrote:
> > On 02/12/2023 23:39, Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote:
> > 
> >> Finally got it working, but tried lots of info from different pages,
> >> and would get all kinds of different messages.
> >> Cleared out everything, and tried things until this seems to have
> >> run completely and is now showing the Nvidia GPU being used.
> > 
> >> NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-545.29.06.run
> >>
> >> That script ran and had no issues, and BOINC is using it, and was
> >> getting stat of 4,000 per day with 6 CPUs, but now with .9 CPU +
> >> GPU is already up to 8,000 and only been about 1/2 day.
> > 
> >>
> >> So, just a matter of finding right installation process.
> > 
> > So, where did you find it?
> 
> My guess is that it's from
> 
> https://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Installing_BOINC_on_Fedora
> 
> which /does/ refer to Fedora 37...
Site I used??
https://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/216530/en-us/
Gave then 

Linux x64 (AMD64/EM64T) Display Driver
 
Version:545.29.06
Release Date:   2023.11.22
Operating System:   Linux 64-bit
Language:   English (US)
File Size:  309.67 MB 

Just did exact same thing, and gives different link??

Is where I got it after going thru an earlier nvidia page that had 
one select OS and card info.

https://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
GeForce
GeForce 10 series
GeForce GTX 1070
Linux 64-bit
Production Branch
English (US)


https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/213194/en-us

Linux x64 (AMD64/EM64T) Display Driver
 
Version:535.129.03
Release Date:   2023.10.31
Operating System:   Linux 64-bit
Language:   English (US)
File Size:  325.83 MB 

So, not clear why it switched drivers??
Will stick with the newer one that I got earlier??
At moment the statistics was running at 4,000 before, and at 
moment is showing current days status at 15,000 so far.
So major improvement in processing speed.

> 
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Re: Disabling lockscreen in GNOME for specific apps?

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On Sunday, December 3rd, 2023 at 3:06 AM, Frederic Muller  wrote:


> Hi!
> 
> I run a simulator which is just an executable downloaded from the
> developers website and unfortunately the screen locks after 5 minutes
> ... forcing to quickly press a key (hoping it won't do anything
> unexpected with the simulator) and ... usually crash.
> 
> Is there a way to disable the lockscreen just for this app under GNOME?
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Fred
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If you can please try 
$ gnome-sessikn-inhibit command-to-run-your-app

should do the job.  If it doesn't work please let us know.

Best Regards,


Antonio 
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Re: Modern Dual-Boot Setup Prcoedure (Dell XPS)

[Neal Becker]

On Sun, Dec 3, 2023 at 7:00 AM George N. White III  wrote:

> On Sat, Dec 2, 2023 at 4:48 PM Tim Evans  wrote:
>
>> Brand New Dell XPS 15 coming tomorrow, to replace my venerable Lenovo
>> T530.  (Looking forward to something a little lighter to lug around.)
>>
>> It's been 10 years since I set the T530 up to dual-boot Fedora and
>> Windows.
>>
>> I'm sure I can figure out how to reduce the size of the Windows
>> partition to make space for Fedora, but am unsure of the process for
>> current PC BIOS and grub setup for dual boot. Or is the Fedora installer
>> smart enough to handle it for me?
>>
>> Are there docs for this?  Thanks.
>>
>
> You should check the LHWDB  for issues
> encountered by
> linux users (sometimes there are comments suggesting workarounds.
>
> You should use Windows tools to 1) update device firmware and 2) create
> "free space"
> for linux.  Dell has the "SupportAssist" app you should run immediately to
> update
> firmware and verify that everything works properly.   On my Dell I need to
> use F2 to
> get to the "BIOS" configuration, and "F12" to get a list of boot options.
> The problem is
> that the system starts faster than my monitor (using DP to HDMI adapter
> cable) wakes
> up so on cold boot I have to guess about the timing to hit a function
> key.  I usually end
> up in Windows a couple times before I get into the BIOS screen I want.
>
> The Windows tools have changed with recent updates to Windows 11
> as I discovered when installing F39 on a Dell desktop.  I just converted
> an existing linux partition to free space so didn't need to shrink the
> Windows
> partition.  A common mistake is allowing Windows assign a drive letter to
> the free space -- the Fedora installer looks for "free space".
>
> About 1 yr back I installed fedora onto my wife's dell laptop with windows
10 for dual boot.  Despite significant and lengthy efforts to follow online
guides to get windows to free up space I never got that to work - windows
never gave up the space.  In the end installed into a spare 2G partition
instead.
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Re: Samsung SSD firmware

[Jeffrey Walton]

On Sun, Dec 3, 2023 at 7:16 AM Patrick O'Callaghan
 wrote:
>
> I have a 2TB Samsung 860 EVO SSD as my main drive. It's working well,
> but Samsung released updated firmware since I got it, and their update
> tool only works under Windows.
>
> Any suggestions on how I could update the SSD? (I know, "if it's not
> broken, don't fix it" :-)

I understand some of the EVO's need the firmware update. Otherwise
they die an early death.

Give this a try. It is part of my "full update" scripts". It updated a
EVO 970 SSD I installed in a laptop in early October.

if [[ -n $(command -v fwupdmgr 2>/dev/null) ]]; then
   if [[ -n $(fwupdmgr get-devices 2>&1 | grep 'UEFI ESRT device') ]]; then
   echo "Updating firmware"
   fwupdmgr refresh 1>/dev/null && fwupdmgr update 1>/dev/null
   fi
fi

Jeff
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Samsung SSD firmware

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

I have a 2TB Samsung 860 EVO SSD as my main drive. It's working well,
but Samsung released updated firmware since I got it, and their update
tool only works under Windows.

Any suggestions on how I could update the SSD? (I know, "if it's not
broken, don't fix it" :-)

poc
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Re: Modern Dual-Boot Setup Prcoedure (Dell XPS)

[George N. White III]

On Sat, Dec 2, 2023 at 4:48 PM Tim Evans  wrote:

> Brand New Dell XPS 15 coming tomorrow, to replace my venerable Lenovo
> T530.  (Looking forward to something a little lighter to lug around.)
>
> It's been 10 years since I set the T530 up to dual-boot Fedora and Windows.
>
> I'm sure I can figure out how to reduce the size of the Windows
> partition to make space for Fedora, but am unsure of the process for
> current PC BIOS and grub setup for dual boot. Or is the Fedora installer
> smart enough to handle it for me?
>
> Are there docs for this?  Thanks.
>

You should check the LHWDB  for issues
encountered by
linux users (sometimes there are comments suggesting workarounds.

You should use Windows tools to 1) update device firmware and 2) create
"free space"
for linux.  Dell has the "SupportAssist" app you should run immediately to
update
firmware and verify that everything works properly.   On my Dell I need to
use F2 to
get to the "BIOS" configuration, and "F12" to get a list of boot options.
The problem is
that the system starts faster than my monitor (using DP to HDMI adapter
cable) wakes
up so on cold boot I have to guess about the timing to hit a function key.
I usually end
up in Windows a couple times before I get into the BIOS screen I want.

The Windows tools have changed with recent updates to Windows 11
as I discovered when installing F39 on a Dell desktop.  I just converted
an existing linux partition to free space so didn't need to shrink the
Windows
partition.  A common mistake is allowing Windows assign a drive letter to
the free space -- the Fedora installer looks for "free space".

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Re: NVIDIA RPM DNF Update Issue?

[John Pilkington]

On 03/12/2023 09:46, John Pilkington wrote:

On 02/12/2023 23:39, Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote:


Finally got it working, but tried lots of info from different pages,
and would get all kinds of different messages.
Cleared out everything, and tried things until this seems to have
run completely and is now showing the Nvidia GPU being used.



NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-545.29.06.run

That script ran and had no issues, and BOINC is using it, and was
getting stat of 4,000 per day with 6 CPUs, but now with .9 CPU +
GPU is already up to 8,000 and only been about 1/2 day.




So, just a matter of finding right installation process.


So, where did you find it?


My guess is that it's from

https://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Installing_BOINC_on_Fedora

which /does/ refer to Fedora 37...





Thanks to all that replied.

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Re: NVIDIA RPM DNF Update Issue?

[John Pilkington]

On 02/12/2023 23:39, Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote:


Finally got it working, but tried lots of info from different pages,
and would get all kinds of different messages.
Cleared out everything, and tried things until this seems to have
run completely and is now showing the Nvidia GPU being used.



NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-545.29.06.run

That script ran and had no issues, and BOINC is using it, and was
getting stat of 4,000 per day with 6 CPUs, but now with .9 CPU +
GPU is already up to 8,000 and only been about 1/2 day.




So, just a matter of finding right installation process.


So, wwhere did you find it?


Thanks to all that replied.

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Disabling lockscreen in GNOME for specific apps?

[Frederic Muller]

Hi!

I run a simulator which is just an executable downloaded from the 
developers website and unfortunately the screen locks after 5 minutes 
... forcing to quickly press a key (hoping it won't do anything 
unexpected with the simulator) and ... usually crash.


Is there a way to disable the lockscreen just for this app under GNOME?

Thank you.

Fred
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