Re: statistics on Fedora and RHEL usage

2024-05-12 Thread Tim via users
ToddAndMargo:
>> Anyone know of a source that gives the number of users of
>> Fedora vs CentOS vs RHEL?

George N. White III:
> Anyone can make up numbers.  There may be good numbers for RHEL 
> installations, but not numbers of users (at my former work lots of people 
> had RHEL logins that were rarely used, e.g. updates to a database).  For 
> CentOS and Fedora there can be large numbers of "managed" workstations 
> in a cubicle farm with very little visibility into the OS being used outside 
> the 
> enterprise.

I think you'd need statistics from something that's very commonly used
by (nearly) everybody all over the world.  Such as, everyone who makes
a google search.

Just looking at some of the stats from my website, which isn't going to
be very representative of anything, you can see what OS *some* users
use from the web agent strings.  But, at times, you can also see that
many user agents have obscurred data.  I see that a lot of spiders
crawled the site last week, it seems there's more of them than real
people.

Top 15 of 785 Total User Agents

#  Hits  User   Agent 
1  1652  5.12%  Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Ubuntu; Linux x86_64; rv:72.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/72.0
2  1153  3.57%  Go-http-client/1.1
3  1133  3.51%  Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; AhrefsBot/7.0; 
http://ahrefs.com/robot/)
4   896  2.78%  Mozilla/5.0 AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko; compatible; 
bingbot/2.0; +http://www.bing.com/bingbot.htm) Chrome/116.0.19
5   865  2.68%  Mozilla/5.0 AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko; compatible; 
ClaudeBot/1.0; +claude...@anthropic.com)
6   588  1.82%  Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; Trident/7.0; rv:11.0) like 
Gecko
7   522  1.62%  python-requests/2.31.0
8   502  1.55%  facebookexternalhit/1.1 
(+http://www.facebook.com/externalhit_uatext.php)
9   482  1.49%  FriendlyCrawler/Nutch-1.20-SNAPSHOT
10  455  1.41%  Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Bytespider; 
spider-feedb...@bytedance.com) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) 
Chrome/70.0.0.0 Sa
11  364  1.13%  Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 
(KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/74.0.3729.169 Safari/537.36
12  317  0.98%  Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; 
+http://www.google.com/bot.html)
13  306  0.95%  Googlebot-Image/1.0
14  305  0.94%  Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Barkrowler/0.9; 
+https://babbar.tech/crawler)
15  296  0.92%  Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; Android 11; vivo 1906; wv) 
AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Chrome/87.0.4280.141 Mobile


Another stats analysis program comes up with these visitor results,
with some amusing zeros in places but non-zero further along the line:

Operating Systems  (HTTP accesses)
==

Versions   Pages  Percent  Hits   Percent
=
Macintosh  31515.6 %   85613.5 % 
-
OS X 10.9 Mavericks1  0 %  2  0 %
OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion1  0 %  10 0.1 %
Mac OS X 10.7 Lion 0  0 %  7  0.1 %
Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard 0  0 %  8  0.1 %
Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard  1  0 %  1  0 %
macOS 10.15 Catalina   23211.5 %   69010.9 %
macOS 10.14 Mojave 6  0.2 %6  0 %
macOS 10.13 High Sierra27 1.3 %80 1.2 %
macOS 10.12 Sierra 18 0.8 %19 0.3 %
OS X 10.11 El Capitan  8  0.3 %8  0.1 %
OS X 10.10 Yosemite3  0.1 %3  0 %
Mac OS X others18 0.8 %22 0.3 %


Linux  1296.4 %2,058  32.5 % 

Ubuntu 11 0.5 %1,667  26.3 %
GNU Linux (Unknown)1185.8 %3916.1 %


iOS1195.9 %3465.4 % 
---
iOS (iPhone)   1195.9 %3425.4 %
iOS (iPad) 0  0 %  4  0 %


Windows   1,061   52.7 %   1,638  25.9 % 

Windows XP28  1.3 %85 1.3 %
Windows Vista (LongHorn)  10  0.4 %18 0.2 %
Windows 8.1   15  0.7 %15 0.2 %
Windows 8 6   0.2 %33 0.5 %
Windows 7 117 5.8 %1872.9 %
Windows 2003  1   0 %  1  0 %
Windows 2000  1   0 %  1  0 %
Windows 10883 43.8 %   1,298  20.5 %


Android   143 7.1 %4817.6 % 
---
Google Android 8.x5   0.2 %25 0.3 %
Google Android 7.x15  0.7 %27 0.4 %
Google Android 6.x70  3.4 %73 1.1 %
Google Android 5.x0   0 %  1  0 %
Google Android 4.41   0 %  1  0 %
Google 

Re: Question on $FileCreateMode for imjournal

2024-05-12 Thread Todd Zullinger
Mark C. Allman via users wrote:
> I'm seeing this line in /var/log/messages:
> 
> imjournal: filecreatemode is not set, using default 0644 [v8.2312.0-1.fc40
> try https://www.rsyslog.com/e/2186 ]
> 
> From the page
> https://www.rsyslog.com/doc/configuration/action/rsconf1_filecreatemode.html,
> I see that I need to set $FileCreateMode. OK. Where?

That is for Legacy Configuration Directives.  You're best to
avoid those anytime you can. (But to be fair, I do think the
rsyslog docs are generally a bit of a pain to use.)

>  * I created a conf file in /etc/rsyslog.d/ with "$FileCreateMode 0600." No
> impact.
>  * I edited (temporarily) /etc/rsyslog.conf and inserted the above line both
> before, after and (as a last resort) both before and after the imjournal
> module load. No impact.

That variable doesn't apply to the imjournal plugin (as far
as I know).  Additionally, setting a var in /etc/rsyslog.d/
likely will not apply to all the previous configuration
before it (with plenty of caveats depending on the setting,
of course).

There's an old RHEL bug regarding this and it was fixed in
CentOS Stream 9 not too long ago.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2181552
https://issues.redhat.com/browse/RHEL-949
https://gitlab.com/redhat/centos-stream/rpms/rsyslog/-/commit/129bf49

> Where should this variable be set and what's the correct syntax? I also sent
> this to the rsyslog list but I thought I'd throw it out here as well.

It's best to not post to multiple lists simultaneously, IMO.
You then have to decide which information is the best if you
get replies from both lists.  A reply here _may_ be better
as a Fedora-specific solution while a reply from the rsyslog
list _may_ be better as applied to the stock rsyslog. :)

That said, adding FileCreateMode="0644" to the imjournal
parameters should resolve this harmless log entry, e.g.:

diff --git i/rsyslog.conf w/rsyslog.conf
index f6d3f6a..1396c37 100644
--- i/rsyslog.conf
+++ w/rsyslog.conf
@@ -18,6 +18,7 @@ module(load="imuxsock"# provides support for local 
system logging (e.g. via
SysSock.Use="off") # Turn off message reception via local log 
socket; 
   # local messages are retrieved through imjournal 
now.
 module(load="imjournal" # provides access to the systemd 
journal
+   FileCreateMode="0644"# Set access permissions for the state 
file
StateFile="imjournal.state") # File to store the position in the 
journal
 
 # Include all config files in /etc/rsyslog.d/

This change was made in CentOS Stream and RHEL but has not
be pushed to Fedora, unfortunately.  It would be ideal if
RHEL followed the "upstream first" mantra.

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Re: How to list Apache (httpd) virtual servers

2024-05-12 Thread Mike Wright

On 5/12/24 14:56, Ian Pilcher wrote:

I am trying to list the virtual servers in my Apache httpd configuration
on Fedora 38.  My internet searches keep turning up references to using
either apachectl or apache2ctl with the -S option, but neither one seems
to work on Fedora.

# apachectl -S
apachectl: The "-S" option is not supported.

# dnf provides '*/apache2ctl'
Last metadata expiration check: 3:35:44 ago on Sun 12 May 2024 01:13:05 
PM CDT.

bash-completion-1:2.11-9.fc38.noarch : Programmable completion for Bash
Repo    : fedora
Matched from:
Filename    : /usr/share/bash-completion/completions/apache2ctl

So how is one supposed to do this on Fedora?


Not specific to Fedora but the apache2 method is


apache2ctl -t -D DUMP_VHOSTS
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How to list Apache (httpd) virtual servers

2024-05-12 Thread Ian Pilcher

I am trying to list the virtual servers in my Apache httpd configuration
on Fedora 38.  My internet searches keep turning up references to using
either apachectl or apache2ctl with the -S option, but neither one seems
to work on Fedora.

# apachectl -S
apachectl: The "-S" option is not supported.

# dnf provides '*/apache2ctl'
Last metadata expiration check: 3:35:44 ago on Sun 12 May 2024 01:13:05 
PM CDT.

bash-completion-1:2.11-9.fc38.noarch : Programmable completion for Bash
Repo: fedora
Matched from:
Filename: /usr/share/bash-completion/completions/apache2ctl

So how is one supposed to do this on Fedora?

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Re: How to change fail2ban timeout during reboot in F40?

2024-05-12 Thread Frank Bures

On 2024-05-12 16:11, Anthony Messina wrote:

Of course, you'll want to set something suitable for your system's needs


~]# cat /etc/systemd/system/fail2ban.service.d/timeout.conf
[Service]
TimeoutStopSec=5min



Thanks
Frank

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Question on $FileCreateMode for imjournal

2024-05-12 Thread Mark C. Allman via users

I'm seeing this line in /var/log/messages:

imjournal: filecreatemode is not set, using default 0644 
[v8.2312.0-1.fc40 try https://www.rsyslog.com/e/2186 ]


From the page 
https://www.rsyslog.com/doc/configuration/action/rsconf1_filecreatemode.html, 
I see that I need to set $FileCreateMode. OK. Where?
 * I created a conf file in /etc/rsyslog.d/ with "$FileCreateMode 
0600." No impact.
 * I edited (temporarily) /etc/rsyslog.conf and inserted the above line 
both before, after and (as a last resort) both before and after the 
imjournal module load. No impact.


Where should this variable be set and what's the correct syntax? I also 
sent this to the rsyslog list but I thought I'd throw it out here as well.


Thanks,

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Re: How to change fail2ban timeout during reboot in F40?

2024-05-12 Thread Anthony Messina via users
Of course, you'll want to set something suitable for your system's needs


~]# cat /etc/systemd/system/fail2ban.service.d/timeout.conf 
[Service]
TimeoutStopSec=5min

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On Sunday, May 12, 2024 3:02:29 PM CDT Frank Bures wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I was a target of an attack resulting in 1600 banned IP address by
> fail2ban.
 
> When I reboot, f2b tries to unban those IPs but it ultimately times out and
> 
 a large number of IPs becomes orphaned.  They stay in firewalld, but f2b
> does not know about them anymore.
> 
> And indeed
> 
> root@ryzen:/etc/systemd/system# systemctl show fail2ban.service -p 
> TimeoutStopUSec
> 
> TimeoutStopUSec=45s
> 
> How do I increase the 45s timeout to something more suitable?  I was not 
> able to find where in the system is that value set.
> 
> Thanks
> Frank


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How to change fail2ban timeout during reboot in F40?

2024-05-12 Thread Frank Bures

Hi,

I was a target of an attack resulting in 1600 banned IP address by fail2ban.

When I reboot, f2b tries to unban those IPs but it ultimately times out and 
a large number of IPs becomes orphaned.  They stay in firewalld, but f2b 
does not know about them anymore.


And indeed

root@ryzen:/etc/systemd/system# systemctl show fail2ban.service -p 
TimeoutStopUSec


TimeoutStopUSec=45s

How do I increase the 45s timeout to something more suitable?  I was not 
able to find where in the system is that value set.


Thanks
Frank

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My fedora 40 experiences

2024-05-12 Thread Tom Horsley
Things I noticed after installing fedora 40. Nothing too bad,
got everything working OK after a few fixes.

No sound at all, not even any sound devices listed. Poking around in
google I eventually found the advice to do this:

rm -rf ~/.local/state/wireplumber
reboot

That worked. I can watch videos now and hear the soundtrack.

No working printer. Apparently the stuff I've been copying from release
to release no longer works. Had to remove the printer definition completely
and let it notice it and reinstall from scratch. It now works but the
annoying new ipp-usb stuff causes a delay of about 10 seconds between
clicking "print" and hearing the printer power up (it was previously
instantaneous before this "improvement").

Various systemd config files I used to edit to change settings are
now apparently installed as %ghost files, so they don't actually
exist. Eventually created directories /etc/systemd/journald.conf.d/
/etc/systemd/system.conf.d and /etc/systemd/user.conf.d and created
some local .conf files in those directories to just override the
handful of settings I normally changed.

The gcc compiler now defaults to the same fanatical insistence
on proper forward references and such that used to be so sloppy
in old C code, so various C programs I always rebuild didn't
compile till I fixed the source ( I figure there is probably
an option to make gcc as dumb as it used to be, but I might
as well fix the code).

My custom sddm theme didn't work. Had to copy new format theme directory
and make similar customizations.

The bogofilter tool changed format databases. Had to discover
the bogomigrate-berkeley tool in the list of files in the
bogofilter rpm to fix that and salvage years worth of spam
filter training.

Haven't noticed any other problems yet, I seem to be able to use
fedora 40 now just like I used fedora 39.
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Re: statistics on Fedora and RHEL usage

2024-05-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2024-05-12 at 10:31 -0400, Jonathan Billings wrote:
> 
> 
> > On May 12, 2024, at 09:39, Michael D. Setzer II via users
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > https://truelist.co/blog/linux-statistics/
> > Has some info. #18 topic has Ubuntu listed at just under 34%.
> > Debian at 16%, CentOS at 9.3%, RedHat at 0.8%, Gentoo at 0.5%,
> > and then Fedora at 0.2%. But no real clue on how they came up
> > with those numbers, or what kind of users those are.
> 
> Those numbers are based on public web servers running those distros,
> and there are a lot of caveats to even that breakdown, see the
> methodology of the research:
> 
> https://w3techs.com/technologies
> 
> While Fedora can and is used for web services (and is much more
> common in the cattle-not-pets style of container web services), a lot
> of the more traditional server practices requires a stable,
> unchanging web service platform which you see in RHEL and other LTS
> distros. 
> 
> It’s unlikely you’ll ever get good stats on desktop distro usage
> breakdown, if you consider how angry the community got when Fedora
> simply *proposed* tracking. The only thing I can think of: Ubuntu can
> track their snap store because it’s their own proprietary product and
> so there aren’t mirrors or alternate stores to obfuscate results, so
> I imagine they’ll always have ways to track users and post numbers. 

I guess Fedora repo accesses would be one way, though it wouldn't
account for varying IP addresses or VPNs.

poc
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Re: statistics on Fedora and RHEL usage

2024-05-12 Thread Jonathan Billings


> On May 12, 2024, at 09:39, Michael D. Setzer II via users 
>  wrote:
> 
> https://truelist.co/blog/linux-statistics/
> Has some info. #18 topic has Ubuntu listed at just under 34%.
> Debian at 16%, CentOS at 9.3%, RedHat at 0.8%, Gentoo at 0.5%,
> and then Fedora at 0.2%. But no real clue on how they came up
> with those numbers, or what kind of users those are.

Those numbers are based on public web servers running those distros, and there 
are a lot of caveats to even that breakdown, see the methodology of the 
research:

https://w3techs.com/technologies

While Fedora can and is used for web services (and is much more common in the 
cattle-not-pets style of container web services), a lot of the more traditional 
server practices requires a stable, unchanging web service platform which you 
see in RHEL and other LTS distros. 

It’s unlikely you’ll ever get good stats on desktop distro usage breakdown, if 
you consider how angry the community got when Fedora simply *proposed* 
tracking. The only thing I can think of: Ubuntu can track their snap store 
because it’s their own proprietary product and so there aren’t mirrors or 
alternate stores to obfuscate results, so I imagine they’ll always have ways to 
track users and post numbers. 

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Re: statistics on Fedora and RHEL usage

2024-05-12 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
On 12 May 2024 at 4:51, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

Date sent:  Sun, 12 May 2024 04:51:11 -0700
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To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Send reply to:  Community support for Fedora users 

From:   ToddAndMargo via users 

Copies to:  ToddAndMargo 

> On 5/12/24 03:36, George N. White III wrote:
> > Fedora has a higher percentage of
> > new to linux users
> 
> Do you know what those numbers are?

https://truelist.co/blog/linux-statistics/
Has some info. #18 topic has Ubuntu listed at just under 34%.
Debian at 16%, CentOS at 9.3%, RedHat at 0.8%, Gentoo at 0.5%, 
and then Fedora at 0.2%. But no real clue on how they came up 
with those numbers, or what kind of users those are.


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Re: statistics on Fedora and RHEL usage

2024-05-12 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

On 5/12/24 03:36, George N. White III wrote:

Fedora has a higher percentage of
new to linux users


Do you know what those numbers are?

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Re: statistics on Fedora and RHEL usage

2024-05-12 Thread George N. White III
On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 6:19 AM Patrick O'Callaghan 
wrote:

> On Sat, 2024-05-11 at 22:55 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> > I am looking for evidence as to why AnyDesk should
> > start officially supporting Fedora.  They already
> > support RHEL and CentOS (I use RHEL's RPM), so it
> > would not be much of a leap.
>
> They might argue that Fedora is much more of a moving target than RHEL
> or Centos, and possibly less likely to be used in corporate settings (I
> don't know if the latter is true of course).
>

I think that is very likely the reason, and would add that a) software that
runs on
CentOS or RHEL needs minimal or zero changes to run on the other OS while
Fedora would often need changes, and b) Fedora has a higher percentage of
new to linux users so tech support requires more "hand-holding".

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Re: What is Castor ? Att.Jonathan Billings.

2024-05-12 Thread Ger van Dijck
Op Sat, 04 May 2024 18:27:48 +0200 schreef Roger Heflin  
:



castor is someplace on your machine defined as the linux node's hostname.

dhcp-client does deliver the defined hostname in the dhcp
requests/responses to the router when it asks for the IP address.

What does 'hostname' report?   and 'hostnamectl' report as the hostname?

Hostname gives castor and hostnamectl gives castor static and a lot of  
information like bios version , type laptop , OS version etc. etc.


On Sat, May 4, 2024 at 10:17 AM Ger van Dijck   
wrote:


Hi,


A bit late Jonathan but here is my answer.


After upgrade to Fedora 40 all runs perfect , but the login prompt looks
as follows :


[root@castor GervanDijck] #


Suddenly the router a Fritz-Box 7490 detects the Name Castor with
IP192.168.178.29 (not connectebel) with a MAC number and the connection
is WLAN.


I just do not understand it : What does it represent ?




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Re: statistics on Fedora and RHEL usage

2024-05-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2024-05-11 at 22:55 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> I am looking for evidence as to why AnyDesk should
> start officially supporting Fedora.  They already
> support RHEL and CentOS (I use RHEL's RPM), so it
> would not be much of a leap.

They might argue that Fedora is much more of a moving target than RHEL
or Centos, and possibly less likely to be used in corporate settings (I
don't know if the latter is true of course).

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Fedore CoreOS and secondary disk

2024-05-12 Thread Earl Ramirez
Good day, all,

I have been trying to add a second disk to CoreOS and can't seem to
figure this out. The secondary disk is specified in the butane config
but the part that I need guidance with is how do I bring up the server
with two disks.


 Sample disk config from butane 
disks:
- device: /dev/disk/by-id/coreos-boot-disk
wipe_table: false
partitions:
- number: 4
label: root
size_mib: 8192
resize: true
- device: /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x50014e2eb507fcdf
wipe_table: true
partitions:
- number: 1
label: var
size_mib: 0
start_mib: 0
type_guid: 0657fd6d-a4ab-43c4-84e5-0933c84b4f4f
filesystems:
- path: /var
device: /dev/disk/by-partlabel/var
format: xfs
wipe_filesystem: false
with_mount_unit: true

## ##

Any suggestions or directions you can point me to be able to get the
secondary disk going for Fedora CoreOS?

Thanks in advance

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2024-05-12T10:02:02 (CEST +0200)



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