/boot too small

2024-05-14 Thread Patrick Dupre via users
Hello,

During an update, I get

Error Summary
-
Disk Requirements:
   At least 7MB more space needed on the /boot filesystem.


How can I fix it without currently resizing /boot?
Thank

drwx--. 5 root root  4096 May 14 08:36 grub2
lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root45 Mar  7 13:24 symvers-6.7.7-100.fc38.x86_64.xz 
-> /lib
/modules/6.7.7-100.fc38.x86_64/symvers.xz
-rw---. 1 root root  81850041 Mar  7 13:24 
initramfs-6.7.7-100.fc38.x86_64.img
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root269378 Mar  1 01:00 config-6.7.7-100.fc38.x86_64
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   8851783 Mar  1 01:00 System.map-6.7.7-100.fc38.x86_64
-rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root  14794568 Mar  1 01:00 vmlinuz-6.7.7-100.fc38.x86_64
lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root45 Feb 13 17:38 symvers-6.7.4-100.fc38.x86_64.xz 
-> /lib
/modules/6.7.4-100.fc38.x86_64/symvers.xz
-rw---. 1 root root  81905180 Feb 13 17:37 
initramfs-6.7.4-100.fc38.x86_64.img
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root269327 Feb  5 01:00 config-6.7.4-100.fc38.x86_64
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   8850577 Feb  5 01:00 System.map-6.7.4-100.fc38.x86_64
-rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root  14806856 Feb  5 01:00 vmlinuz-6.7.4-100.fc38.x86_64
lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root46 Jan 25 13:39 
symvers-6.6.13-100.fc38.x86_64.xz -> /li
b/modules/6.6.13-100.fc38.x86_64/symvers.xz
-rw---. 1 root root  42503616 Jan 25 13:39 
initramfs-6.6.13-100.fc38.x86_64.img
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root266375 Jan 20 01:00 config-6.6.13-100.fc38.x86_64
-rw---. 1 root root   8786049 Jan 20 01:00 System.map-6.6.13-100.fc38.x86_64
-rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root  14676712 Jan 20 01:00 vmlinuz-6.6.13-100.fc38.x86_64
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root147744 Jan  7 01:00 memtest86+x64.bin
drwx--. 4 root root  4096 Jun 20  2023 efi
drwxr-xr-x. 2 root root  4096 Jun 20  2023 extlinux
-rw---. 1 root root 103940590 Jul 21  2022 
initramfs-0-rescue-c60d54440c4d444a9eb5a084a65edf40.img
-rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root  11802352 Jul 21  2022 
vmlinuz-0-rescue-c60d54440c4d444a9eb5a084a65edf40

drwxr-xr-x. 3 root root  4096 Jul 21  2022 loader
drwx--. 2 root root 16384 Jul 21  2022 lost+found


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Re: /boot too small

2024-05-14 Thread Michal Schorm
Hi,

for an immediate workaround, remove the oldest kernel.
Here are the steps together with an example output:


1) List installed kernel-core packages:
# rpm -qa | grep kernel-core | sort
kernel-core-6.8.4-200.fc39.x86_64
kernel-core-6.8.6-200.fc39.x86_64
kernel-core-6.8.7-200.fc39.x86_64


2) Remove the oldest one
# dnf remove 
Dependencies resolved.

 PackageArch Version   Repository  Size

Removing:
 kernel-corex86_64   6.8.4-200.fc39@updates66 M
Removing dependent packages:
 kernel x86_64   6.8.4-200.fc39@updates 0
 kernel-modules x86_64   6.8.4-200.fc39@updates58 M
 kernel-modules-corex86_64   6.8.4-200.fc39@updates32 M
 kernel-modules-extra   x86_64   6.8.4-200.fc39@updates   2.4 M
Transaction Summary

Remove  5 Packages
Freed space: 159 M


3) profit
you have extra ~160 MB now.
System update should have enough space to install the new kernel now.


4)
Once finished, I'd recommend you to try to enlarge your /boot/
partition a bit (e.g. 100 - 500 MB ?) to avoid this problem
permanently.




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Core Services - Databases Team
Red Hat

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On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 9:44 AM Patrick Dupre via users
 wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> During an update, I get
>
> Error Summary
> -
> Disk Requirements:
>At least 7MB more space needed on the /boot filesystem.
>
>
> How can I fix it without currently resizing /boot?
> Thank
>
> drwx--. 5 root root  4096 May 14 08:36 grub2
> lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root45 Mar  7 13:24 
> symvers-6.7.7-100.fc38.x86_64.xz -> /lib
> /modules/6.7.7-100.fc38.x86_64/symvers.xz
> -rw---. 1 root root  81850041 Mar  7 13:24 
> initramfs-6.7.7-100.fc38.x86_64.img
> -rw-r--r--. 1 root root269378 Mar  1 01:00 config-6.7.7-100.fc38.x86_64
> -rw-r--r--. 1 root root   8851783 Mar  1 01:00 
> System.map-6.7.7-100.fc38.x86_64
> -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root  14794568 Mar  1 01:00 vmlinuz-6.7.7-100.fc38.x86_64
> lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root45 Feb 13 17:38 
> symvers-6.7.4-100.fc38.x86_64.xz -> /lib
> /modules/6.7.4-100.fc38.x86_64/symvers.xz
> -rw---. 1 root root  81905180 Feb 13 17:37 
> initramfs-6.7.4-100.fc38.x86_64.img
> -rw-r--r--. 1 root root269327 Feb  5 01:00 config-6.7.4-100.fc38.x86_64
> -rw-r--r--. 1 root root   8850577 Feb  5 01:00 
> System.map-6.7.4-100.fc38.x86_64
> -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root  14806856 Feb  5 01:00 vmlinuz-6.7.4-100.fc38.x86_64
> lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root46 Jan 25 13:39 
> symvers-6.6.13-100.fc38.x86_64.xz -> /li
> b/modules/6.6.13-100.fc38.x86_64/symvers.xz
> -rw---. 1 root root  42503616 Jan 25 13:39 
> initramfs-6.6.13-100.fc38.x86_64.img
> -rw-r--r--. 1 root root266375 Jan 20 01:00 config-6.6.13-100.fc38.x86_64
> -rw---. 1 root root   8786049 Jan 20 01:00 
> System.map-6.6.13-100.fc38.x86_64
> -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root  14676712 Jan 20 01:00 vmlinuz-6.6.13-100.fc38.x86_64
> -rw-r--r--. 1 root root147744 Jan  7 01:00 memtest86+x64.bin
> drwx--. 4 root root  4096 Jun 20  2023 efi
> drwxr-xr-x. 2 root root  4096 Jun 20  2023 extlinux
> -rw---. 1 root root 103940590 Jul 21  2022 
> initramfs-0-rescue-c60d54440c4d444a9eb5a084a65edf40.img
> -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root  11802352 Jul 21  2022 
> vmlinuz-0-rescue-c60d54440c4d444a9eb5a084a65edf40
>
> drwxr-xr-x. 3 root root  4096 Jul 21  2022 loader
> drwx--. 2 root root 16384 Jul 21  2022 lost+found
>
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Re: /boot too small

2024-05-14 Thread John Pilkington

On 14/05/2024 08:54, Michal Schorm wrote:

Hi,

for an immediate workaround, remove the oldest kernel.
Here are the steps together with an example output:


1) List installed kernel-core packages:
# rpm -qa | grep kernel-core | sort
kernel-core-6.8.4-200.fc39.x86_64
kernel-core-6.8.6-200.fc39.x86_64
kernel-core-6.8.7-200.fc39.x86_64


2) Remove the oldest one
# dnf remove 
Dependencies resolved.

  PackageArch Version   Repository  Size

Removing:
  kernel-corex86_64   6.8.4-200.fc39@updates66 M
Removing dependent packages:
  kernel x86_64   6.8.4-200.fc39@updates 0
  kernel-modules x86_64   6.8.4-200.fc39@updates58 M
  kernel-modules-corex86_64   6.8.4-200.fc39@updates32 M
  kernel-modules-extra   x86_64   6.8.4-200.fc39@updates   2.4 M
Transaction Summary

Remove  5 Packages
Freed space: 159 M


3) profit
you have extra ~160 MB now.
System update should have enough space to install the new kernel now.


4)
Once finished, I'd recommend you to try to enlarge your /boot/
partition a bit (e.g. 100 - 500 MB ?) to avoid this problem
permanently.




Michal Schorm
Software Engineer
Core Services - Databases Team
Red Hat


I had the same problem a few days ago and did the same.  I
posted this reply but HyperKitty doesn't find it.  So..

But I installed f40 a few days ago, and today "dnf upgrade" installed 
kernel-6.8.8 but *not* vmlinuz-6.8.8, so booting failed.


My /boot partition is 450 GB, and I now have two bootable f40 kernels 
and a recent rescue kernel.  There's no room for another.  You probably 
don't have a "recovery" option.


I now have "installonly_limit=2" in /etc/dnf/dnf.conf, but a new "dnf 
upgrade" after that said there was "nothing to do".  What did work was ( 
while running 6.8.7):


sudo dnf remove kernel-core-6.8.8
sudo dnf upgrade

and then when "systemctl list-jobs" was clear, "sudo systemctl reboot"

I, too, would prefer to have a bigger /boot, but this info might help.

John P



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On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 9:44 AM Patrick Dupre via users
 wrote:


Hello,

During an update, I get

Error Summary
-
Disk Requirements:
At least 7MB more space needed on the /boot filesystem.


How can I fix it without currently resizing /boot?
Thank

drwx--. 5 root root  4096 May 14 08:36 grub2
lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root45 Mar  7 13:24 symvers-6.7.7-100.fc38.x86_64.xz 
-> /lib
/modules/6.7.7-100.fc38.x86_64/symvers.xz
-rw---. 1 root root  81850041 Mar  7 13:24 
initramfs-6.7.7-100.fc38.x86_64.img
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root269378 Mar  1 01:00 config-6.7.7-100.fc38.x86_64
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   8851783 Mar  1 01:00 System.map-6.7.7-100.fc38.x86_64
-rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root  14794568 Mar  1 01:00 vmlinuz-6.7.7-100.fc38.x86_64
lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root45 Feb 13 17:38 symvers-6.7.4-100.fc38.x86_64.xz 
-> /lib
/modules/6.7.4-100.fc38.x86_64/symvers.xz
-rw---. 1 root root  81905180 Feb 13 17:37 
initramfs-6.7.4-100.fc38.x86_64.img
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root269327 Feb  5 01:00 config-6.7.4-100.fc38.x86_64
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   8850577 Feb  5 01:00 System.map-6.7.4-100.fc38.x86_64
-rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root  14806856 Feb  5 01:00 vmlinuz-6.7.4-100.fc38.x86_64
lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root46 Jan 25 13:39 symvers-6.6.13-100.fc38.x86_64.xz 
-> /li
b/modules/6.6.13-100.fc38.x86_64/symvers.xz
-rw---. 1 root root  42503616 Jan 25 13:39 
initramfs-6.6.13-100.fc38.x86_64.img
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root266375 Jan 20 01:00 config-6.6.13-100.fc38.x86_64
-rw---. 1 root root   8786049 Jan 20 01:00 System.map-6.6.13-100.fc38.x86_64
-rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root  14676712 Jan 20 01:00 vmlinuz-6.6.13-100.fc38.x86_64
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root147744 Jan  7 01:00 memtest86+x64.bin
drwx--. 4 root root  4096 Jun 20  2023 efi
drwxr-xr-x. 2 root root  4096 Jun 20  2023 extlinux
-rw---. 1 root root 103940590 Jul 21  2022 
initramfs-0-rescue-c60d54440c4d444a9eb5a084a65edf40.img
-rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root  11802352 Jul 21  2022 
vmlinuz-0-rescue-c60d54440c4d444a9eb5a084a65edf40

drwxr-xr-x. 3 root root  4096 Jul 21  2022 loader
drwx--. 2 root root 16384 Jul 21  2022 lost+found


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Re: /boot too small

2024-05-14 Thread Barry Scott


> On 14 May 2024, at 08:38, Patrick Dupre via users 
>  wrote:
> 
> How can I fix it without currently resizing /boot?


How big is your /boot? What does this report? df -h /boot

If its 1GB then that should be lots of space and its worth checking where the 
space has been used up.
Have a look with ncdu or du to see what directories are taking up the space.
There have been people that reported full /boot and found unexpected backup 
files in there.

Barry

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Re: /boot too small

2024-05-14 Thread Patrick Dupre via users
df -h /boot
Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda6       488M  445M  6.5M  99% /boot
 
 

Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 10:02 AM
From: "Barry Scott" 
To: "Community support for Fedora users" 
Cc: "Patrick Dupre" 
Subject: Re: /boot too small


 
 

On 14 May 2024, at 08:38, Patrick Dupre via users  wrote:
 

How can I fix it without currently resizing /boot?


 

 

How big is your /boot? What does this report? df -h /boot

 

If its 1GB then that should be lots of space and its worth checking where the space has been used up.

Have a look with ncdu or du to see what directories are taking up the space.

There have been people that reported full /boot and found unexpected backup files in there.

 

Barry

 




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Re: /boot too small

2024-05-14 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 3:38 AM Patrick Dupre via users <
users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> During an update, I get
>
> Error Summary
> -
> Disk Requirements:
>At least 7MB more space needed on the /boot filesystem.
>
>
> How can I fix it without currently resizing /boot?
>

Remove old kernels. Something like `dnf remove kernel-*6.6.13-100*` and
`dnf remove kernel-*6.7.4-100*`.

You could also delete the rescue kernel and regenerate it later. Something
like `rm /boot/*rescue*`.


> drwx--. 5 root root  4096 May 14 08:36 grub2
> lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root45 Mar  7 13:24
> symvers-6.7.7-100.fc38.x86_64.xz -> /lib
> /modules/6.7.7-100.fc38.x86_64/symvers.xz
> -rw---. 1 root root  81850041 Mar  7 13:24
> initramfs-6.7.7-100.fc38.x86_64.img
> -rw-r--r--. 1 root root269378 Mar  1 01:00 config-6.7.7-100.fc38.x86_64
> -rw-r--r--. 1 root root   8851783 Mar  1 01:00
> System.map-6.7.7-100.fc38.x86_64
> -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root  14794568 Mar  1 01:00
> vmlinuz-6.7.7-100.fc38.x86_64
> lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root45 Feb 13 17:38
> symvers-6.7.4-100.fc38.x86_64.xz -> /lib
> /modules/6.7.4-100.fc38.x86_64/symvers.xz
> -rw---. 1 root root  81905180 Feb 13 17:37
> initramfs-6.7.4-100.fc38.x86_64.img
> -rw-r--r--. 1 root root269327 Feb  5 01:00 config-6.7.4-100.fc38.x86_64
> -rw-r--r--. 1 root root   8850577 Feb  5 01:00
> System.map-6.7.4-100.fc38.x86_64
> -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root  14806856 Feb  5 01:00
> vmlinuz-6.7.4-100.fc38.x86_64
> lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root46 Jan 25 13:39
> symvers-6.6.13-100.fc38.x86_64.xz -> /li
> b/modules/6.6.13-100.fc38.x86_64/symvers.xz
> -rw---. 1 root root  42503616 Jan 25 13:39
> initramfs-6.6.13-100.fc38.x86_64.img
> -rw-r--r--. 1 root root266375 Jan 20 01:00
> config-6.6.13-100.fc38.x86_64
> -rw---. 1 root root   8786049 Jan 20 01:00
> System.map-6.6.13-100.fc38.x86_64
> -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root  14676712 Jan 20 01:00
> vmlinuz-6.6.13-100.fc38.x86_64
> -rw-r--r--. 1 root root147744 Jan  7 01:00 memtest86+x64.bin
> drwx--. 4 root root  4096 Jun 20  2023 efi
> drwxr-xr-x. 2 root root  4096 Jun 20  2023 extlinux
> -rw---. 1 root root 103940590 Jul 21  2022
> initramfs-0-rescue-c60d54440c4d444a9eb5a084a65edf40.img
> -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root  11802352 Jul 21  2022
> vmlinuz-0-rescue-c60d54440c4d444a9eb5a084a65edf40
>
> drwxr-xr-x. 3 root root  4096 Jul 21  2022 loader
> drwx--. 2 root root 16384 Jul 21  2022 lost+found
>

Jeff
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Re: /boot too small

2024-05-14 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
Note sure this with post to list with the Bold marked text, but 
sending it to your email as well. If list rejects it will repost without 
Rich Text, and Perhaps mark lines with (B) that were bold??

Good Luck.

A couple of things I would recommend.
Have an old Lenovo R61 notebook that also has a 500M boot so 
changed the installonly reduced by at least 1 from the default 3.
 
First change /etc/dnf/dnf.conf to have 
installonly_limit=2

Then would remove the rescue kernel files since those are the 
largest and probable least useful. Probable just move them to 
another partition that has space.

Pulled data from email and put in spreadsheet and changed size to 
~MB and name. Would remove or move these files to another 
partition with space. That would leave the latest 2 kernels.

  99
initramfs-0-rescue-c60d54440c4d444a9eb5a084a65edf4

  78
initramfs-6.7.4-100.fc38.x86_64.img

  78
initramfs-6.7.7-100.fc38.x86_64.img

  40
initramfs-6.6.13-100.fc38.x86_64.img

  14
vmlinuz-6.7.4-100.fc38.x86_64

  14
vmlinuz-6.7.7-100.fc38.x86_64

  13
vmlinuz-6.6.13-100.fc38.x86_64

  11
vmlinuz-0-rescue-c60d54440c4d444a9eb5a084a65edf40

   8
System.map-6.7.7-100.fc38.x86_64

   8
System.map-6.7.4-100.fc38.x86_64

   8
System.map-6.6.13-100.fc38.x86_64

   0
config-6.7.7-100.fc38.x86_64

   0
config-6.7.4-100.fc38.x86_64

   0
config-6.6.13-100.fc38.x86_64


That should make lots of space. The recue kernel would probable 
be rebuilt on next kernel update or dnf reinstall kernel-core. 
Unless you have disabled that??



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Can an vsFTP server get swamped?

2024-05-14 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

Hi All,

I have a customer with four Windows workstations that
backup with Cobian Reflector to a local Fedora vsFTP server

vsftpd-3.0.5-6.fc40.x86_64

Every so often, Cobian errors out with:

ERR 2024-05-12 21:38:58 An error occurred while uploading the file 
"C:\Users\accounting\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\boteqaxu.default-1441211636453\storage\default\https+++shop.nordstrom.com\cache\morgue\44\{a7c30849-26e1-400f-9127-3cc779dc912c}.final" 
to "/MyDocsBackup/backup1/Mozilla 2024-05-12 21;31;27 
(Full)/Firefox/Profiles/boteqaxu.default-1441211636453/storage/default/https+++shop.nordstrom.com/cache/morgue/44": 
Only one usage of each socket address (protocol/network address/port) is 
normally permitted 192.168.202.10:10098



But if I re-run the task, it goes through without issue.

By chance if several of the workstations start backing
up at the same time, can the vsFTP server get swamped?

Is there a way to increase vsFTP's sockets?
P
Many thanks,
-T
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Re: Can an vsFTP server get swamped?

2024-05-14 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
On 14 May 2024 at 4:04, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

Date sent:  Tue, 14 May 2024 04:04:46 -0700
To: Community support for Fedora users 

Subject:Can an vsFTP server get swamped?
Send reply to:  Community support for Fedora users 

From:   ToddAndMargo via users 

Copies to:  ToddAndMargo 

> Hi All,
> 
> I have a customer with four Windows workstations that
> backup with Cobian Reflector to a local Fedora vsFTP server
> 
>  vsftpd-3.0.5-6.fc40.x86_64
> 
> Every so often, Cobian errors out with:
> 
> ERR 2024-05-12 21:38:58 An error occurred while uploading the file 
> "C:\Users\accounting\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\boteqaxu.default-1441211636453\storage\default\https+++shop.nordstrom.com\cache\morgue\44\{a7c30849-26e1-400f-9127-3cc779dc912c}.final"
>  
> to "/MyDocsBackup/backup1/Mozilla 2024-05-12 21;31;27 
> (Full)/Firefox/Profiles/boteqaxu.default-1441211636453/storage/default/https+++shop.nordstrom.com/cache/morgue/44":
>  
> Only one usage of each socket address (protocol/network address/port) is 
> normally permitted 192.168.202.10:10098
> 
> 
> But if I re-run the task, it goes through without issue.
> 
> By chance if several of the workstations start backing
> up at the same time, can the vsFTP server get swamped?
> 
> Is there a way to increase vsFTP's sockets?
> P
Note sure if you are talking about passive ports.
check your /etc/vsftpd/vsftpd.config normall at end.

I've set mine up with these settings?

pasv_enable=YES
pasv_min_port=11000
pasv_max_port=11010

Might also need to make sure that these ports are routed to the 
machine if it is behind a router..

Just a thought.


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Re: /boot too small

2024-05-14 Thread richard emberson

Back on 05/03/2024 I posted the question:
  "How to increase size of /boot partition"
I had the same problem.

As was noted by some, I had not upgraded for a long, long time:
  "This type of layout and partition sizes is ancient.  /tmp isn't even a partition 
now."

So, I decided to re-install. I pretty much used the installation default 
partitioning except that I
made /boot 2GB (a little future proofing). This also allowed me to go from ext4 
to btrfs (except /boot
of course).

Richard



On 5/14/24 12:38 AM, Patrick Dupre via users wrote:

Hello,

During an update, I get

Error Summary
-
Disk Requirements:
At least 7MB more space needed on the /boot filesystem.


How can I fix it without currently resizing /boot?
Thank

drwx--. 5 root root  4096 May 14 08:36 grub2
lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root45 Mar  7 13:24 symvers-6.7.7-100.fc38.x86_64.xz 
-> /lib
/modules/6.7.7-100.fc38.x86_64/symvers.xz
-rw---. 1 root root  81850041 Mar  7 13:24 
initramfs-6.7.7-100.fc38.x86_64.img
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root269378 Mar  1 01:00 config-6.7.7-100.fc38.x86_64
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   8851783 Mar  1 01:00 System.map-6.7.7-100.fc38.x86_64
-rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root  14794568 Mar  1 01:00 vmlinuz-6.7.7-100.fc38.x86_64
lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root45 Feb 13 17:38 symvers-6.7.4-100.fc38.x86_64.xz 
-> /lib
/modules/6.7.4-100.fc38.x86_64/symvers.xz
-rw---. 1 root root  81905180 Feb 13 17:37 
initramfs-6.7.4-100.fc38.x86_64.img
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root269327 Feb  5 01:00 config-6.7.4-100.fc38.x86_64
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root   8850577 Feb  5 01:00 System.map-6.7.4-100.fc38.x86_64
-rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root  14806856 Feb  5 01:00 vmlinuz-6.7.4-100.fc38.x86_64
lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root46 Jan 25 13:39 symvers-6.6.13-100.fc38.x86_64.xz 
-> /li
b/modules/6.6.13-100.fc38.x86_64/symvers.xz
-rw---. 1 root root  42503616 Jan 25 13:39 
initramfs-6.6.13-100.fc38.x86_64.img
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root266375 Jan 20 01:00 config-6.6.13-100.fc38.x86_64
-rw---. 1 root root   8786049 Jan 20 01:00 System.map-6.6.13-100.fc38.x86_64
-rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root  14676712 Jan 20 01:00 vmlinuz-6.6.13-100.fc38.x86_64
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root147744 Jan  7 01:00 memtest86+x64.bin
drwx--. 4 root root  4096 Jun 20  2023 efi
drwxr-xr-x. 2 root root  4096 Jun 20  2023 extlinux
-rw---. 1 root root 103940590 Jul 21  2022 
initramfs-0-rescue-c60d54440c4d444a9eb5a084a65edf40.img
-rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root  11802352 Jul 21  2022 
vmlinuz-0-rescue-c60d54440c4d444a9eb5a084a65edf40

drwxr-xr-x. 3 root root  4096 Jul 21  2022 loader
drwx--. 2 root root 16384 Jul 21  2022 lost+found


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qemu guest converted via v2v has no network

2024-05-14 Thread Sbob

Hi;


I have just installed Fedora 40 and all the kvm/qemu/libvirt bits

I can run virt-manager and install a new guest and when I start the 
guest it comes up automatically with a valid network / ip address


I also converted a fedora 38 vm that has a gui interface and it also 
works fine



However, I have several ALMA 8 VMWare vm's and I am able to convert them 
like this:


# virt-v2v -i vmx /data/vmware/Alma-HA-DR-Data3/Alma-HA-DR-Data3.vmx -o 
libvirt -of qcow2 -os default -n default


where the original VMware folder is at /data/vmware/Alma-HA-DR-Data3

It converts and I can start the guest but it has no network, I see the 
standard network device but it has no ip address, trying to bring it up 
with the following command has no effect:


# ifconfig enp1s0 up


The guest NIC details (in the guest details ) show this:

Network source:  Virtual network 'default' :NAT

Device model:   virtio

Mac address:  00:0c:29:4f:14:c3

IP Address:  Unknown

Link State:  active


The guest NIC details xml tab shows this:


  
  portid="35431ccd-cdd2-4cde-b2ec-8310b912e188" bridge="virbr0"/>

  
  
  
  function="0x0"/>





Thanks in advance for any advice

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Re: /boot too small

2024-05-14 Thread Tim via users
On Tue, 2024-05-14 at 08:27 -0700, richard emberson wrote:
> Back on 05/03/2024 I posted the question:
>    "How to increase size of /boot partition"
> I had the same problem.
> 
> As was noted by some, I had not upgraded for a long, long time:
>    "This type of layout and partition sizes is ancient.  /tmp isn't even a 
> partition now."

Does /boot still need to be its own partition, these days?

/boot/efi has to be, but that's mapped into /boot, already. 


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Re: qemu guest converted via v2v has no network

2024-05-14 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/14/24 10:48 AM, Sbob wrote:
However, I have several ALMA 8 VMWare vm's and I am able to convert them 
like this:


# virt-v2v -i vmx /data/vmware/Alma-HA-DR-Data3/Alma-HA-DR-Data3.vmx -o 
libvirt -of qcow2 -os default -n default


where the original VMware folder is at /data/vmware/Alma-HA-DR-Data3

It converts and I can start the guest but it has no network, I see the 
standard network device but it has no ip address, trying to bring it up 
with the following command has no effect:


# ifconfig enp1s0 up


What do the logs show?


The guest NIC details xml tab shows this:


   
   portid="35431ccd-cdd2-4cde-b2ec-8310b912e188" bridge="virbr0"/>

   
   
   
   function="0x0"/>




That looks ok.  Does the guest support virtio networking?
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Re: qemu guest converted via v2v has no network

2024-05-14 Thread Sbob

Where do I find the logs?


On 5/14/24 2:46 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 5/14/24 10:48 AM, Sbob wrote:
However, I have several ALMA 8 VMWare vm's and I am able to convert 
them like this:


# virt-v2v -i vmx /data/vmware/Alma-HA-DR-Data3/Alma-HA-DR-Data3.vmx 
-o libvirt -of qcow2 -os default -n default


where the original VMware folder is at /data/vmware/Alma-HA-DR-Data3

It converts and I can start the guest but it has no network, I see 
the standard network device but it has no ip address, trying to bring 
it up with the following command has no effect:


# ifconfig enp1s0 up


What do the logs show?


The guest NIC details xml tab shows this:


   
   portid="35431ccd-cdd2-4cde-b2ec-8310b912e188" bridge="virbr0"/>

   
   
   
   function="0x0"/>




That looks ok.  Does the guest support virtio networking?
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Re: /boot too small

2024-05-14 Thread Michal Schorm
On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 8:13 PM Tim via users
 wrote:
> Does /boot still need to be its own partition, these days?
> /boot/efi has to be, but that's mapped into /boot, already.

Definitely not.
And it actually creates all kinds of problems when separated.

The best *trivial* setup and usage should be having everything on
BTRFS (except EFI, as you said),
and maintain some amount of snapshots you can revert to anytime in
case of any issues.

When /boot is on the BTRFS, the snapshot contains the whole system,
and ensures bootability of the snapshots.

When /boot is on a standalone partition, the snapshot contains kernel
modules, but not the actual kernel.
When booting a new kernel (from /boot) with old kernel modules (from
the snapshot), the modules can't be loaded, leaving you with a kind of
crippled system. (bootable, but only partly usable)
Which is far from what people would usually expect.

--

A better, but more complicated setup consists of various snapshots of
various subvolumes which are mounted to various locations. (e.g.
standalone subvolumes for /home, games, backups, ... whatever)
Often managed by some software (snapper, timeshit, ... not sure about
the specific names), rather than the btrfs commands themselves.

--

I managed to craft a setup that changes which snapshot (or which OS)
will boot by changing just a single symlink.
That too would be (likely ?) impossible with /boot on a separate partition.

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Core Services - Databases Team
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On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 8:13 PM Tim via users
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>
> On Tue, 2024-05-14 at 08:27 -0700, richard emberson wrote:
> > Back on 05/03/2024 I posted the question:
> >"How to increase size of /boot partition"
> > I had the same problem.
> >
> > As was noted by some, I had not upgraded for a long, long time:
> >"This type of layout and partition sizes is ancient.  /tmp isn't even a 
> > partition now."
>
> Does /boot still need to be its own partition, these days?
>
> /boot/efi has to be, but that's mapped into /boot, already.
>
>
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Re: /boot too small

2024-05-14 Thread richard emberson

Poking about I see that the default workstation disk layout:
  https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/workstation-docs/disk-config/
has /boot on a ext4 partition and everything else on btrfs.
Also, the replacement for Anaconda will not happen until Fedora 41:
  
https://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?332111-Fedora-40-will-remain-with-existing-anaconda

So, are you saying that with Fedora 41, it will be the default for the /boot 
partition to use btrfs?
Or, is this something that works for you?

Thanks.
Richard
On 5/14/24 3:38 PM, Michal Schorm wrote:

On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 8:13 PM Tim via users
 wrote:

Does /boot still need to be its own partition, these days?
/boot/efi has to be, but that's mapped into /boot, already.


Definitely not.
And it actually creates all kinds of problems when separated.

The best *trivial* setup and usage should be having everything on
BTRFS (except EFI, as you said),
and maintain some amount of snapshots you can revert to anytime in
case of any issues.

When /boot is on the BTRFS, the snapshot contains the whole system,
and ensures bootability of the snapshots.

When /boot is on a standalone partition, the snapshot contains kernel
modules, but not the actual kernel.
When booting a new kernel (from /boot) with old kernel modules (from
the snapshot), the modules can't be loaded, leaving you with a kind of
crippled system. (bootable, but only partly usable)
Which is far from what people would usually expect.

--

A better, but more complicated setup consists of various snapshots of
various subvolumes which are mounted to various locations. (e.g.
standalone subvolumes for /home, games, backups, ... whatever)
Often managed by some software (snapper, timeshit, ... not sure about
the specific names), rather than the btrfs commands themselves.

--

I managed to craft a setup that changes which snapshot (or which OS)
will boot by changing just a single symlink.
That too would be (likely ?) impossible with /boot on a separate partition.

--

Michal Schorm
Software Engineer
Core Services - Databases Team
Red Hat

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On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 8:13 PM Tim via users
 wrote:


On Tue, 2024-05-14 at 08:27 -0700, richard emberson wrote:

Back on 05/03/2024 I posted the question:
"How to increase size of /boot partition"
I had the same problem.

As was noted by some, I had not upgraded for a long, long time:
"This type of layout and partition sizes is ancient.  /tmp isn't even a 
partition now."


Does /boot still need to be its own partition, these days?

/boot/efi has to be, but that's mapped into /boot, already.


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Re: /boot too small

2024-05-14 Thread Dave Close
Michal Schorm wrote:

>The best *trivial* setup and usage should be having everything on
>BTRFS (except EFI, as you said),
>and maintain some amount of snapshots you can revert to anytime in
>case of any issues.

I look forward to a complete set of instructions for this approach
in the Fedora documentation web site. I'm sure many of us will want
to adopt this approach.
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Re: /boot too small

2024-05-14 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Michal Schorm  said:
> On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 8:13 PM Tim via users
>  wrote:
> > Does /boot still need to be its own partition, these days?
> > /boot/efi has to be, but that's mapped into /boot, already.
> 
> Definitely not.

It does for a variety of cases, such as an encrypted root filesystem.

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Re: qemu guest converted via v2v has no network

2024-05-14 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/14/24 3:06 PM, Sbob wrote:

Where do I find the logs?


The logs from the Linux system that you ran the "ifconfig" on.
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Re: 2 sets of backups with Backups?

2024-05-14 Thread Richard England
You might also take a look at Back In Time 
(https://backintime.readthedocs.io/)


~~R

Defenestrated since 1990

On 5/7/24 22:11, Frederic Muller wrote:

On 30/04/2024 16:54, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Tue, 2024-04-30 at 16:44 +0700, Frederic Muller wrote:

Hi!

I currently do weekly backups with Backups and Duplicity> I was
thinking
to add another batch job of daily backup, faster, for specific files
and
folders that are updated daily.

Unfortunately Backups doesn't seem to give the options for 2 batches,
or
selecting single files. How would you do about that then?

I have a NAS to which I plan to copy those files.

I use Borgmatic, which runs nightly and has a config file for what I
want to backup and how long to keep it. It's also deduplicating and
optionally encrypts.

poc


Thank you very much. I was not aware of this application and will look 
into it.


Fred
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Re: /boot too small

2024-05-14 Thread Michal Schorm
On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 1:29 AM richard emberson
 wrote:
> Poking about I see that the default workstation disk layout:
>https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/workstation-docs/disk-config/
> has /boot on a ext4 partition and everything else on btrfs.
> Also, the replacement for Anaconda will not happen until Fedora 41:
>
> https://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?332111-Fedora-40-will-remain-with-existing-anaconda
>
> So, are you saying that with Fedora 41, it will be the default for the /boot 
> partition to use btrfs?
> Or, is this something that works for you?

It is something that works for me.

Back when I started poking around BTRFS, going from person to person,
asking tons of questions of what would or would not be possible, which
resulted in un-clogging the pipes that blocked widespread BTRFS
adoption in Fedora, the full system on BTRFS layout was what I was
suggesting.
I'm so glad people were willing to adopt BTRFS (both Fedora developers
allowing that and actually making that happen; and the users alike),
but I feel like the job is half-done.

The biggest obstacle of any change to the default FS layouts is - in
my opinion - GRUB.
The GRUB configuration can be so clean, brief and nice, even for very
complicated setups - when you tailor it exactly to your needs.
However making auto-generated configurations that would work for
everyone, covering most possible configurations is an entirely
different thing - which GRUB doesn't handle well IMO.

Sorrows of dual booting and similar themes are common on
discussion.fedoraproject.org.
Even though I see the BTRFS adoption in Fedora as quite a success.

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On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 1:29 AM richard emberson
 wrote:
>
> Poking about I see that the default workstation disk layout:
>https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/workstation-docs/disk-config/
> has /boot on a ext4 partition and everything else on btrfs.
> Also, the replacement for Anaconda will not happen until Fedora 41:
>
> https://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?332111-Fedora-40-will-remain-with-existing-anaconda
>
> So, are you saying that with Fedora 41, it will be the default for the /boot 
> partition to use btrfs?
> Or, is this something that works for you?
>
> Thanks.
> Richard
> On 5/14/24 3:38 PM, Michal Schorm wrote:
> > On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 8:13 PM Tim via users
> >  wrote:
> >> Does /boot still need to be its own partition, these days?
> >> /boot/efi has to be, but that's mapped into /boot, already.
> >
> > Definitely not.
> > And it actually creates all kinds of problems when separated.
> >
> > The best *trivial* setup and usage should be having everything on
> > BTRFS (except EFI, as you said),
> > and maintain some amount of snapshots you can revert to anytime in
> > case of any issues.
> >
> > When /boot is on the BTRFS, the snapshot contains the whole system,
> > and ensures bootability of the snapshots.
> >
> > When /boot is on a standalone partition, the snapshot contains kernel
> > modules, but not the actual kernel.
> > When booting a new kernel (from /boot) with old kernel modules (from
> > the snapshot), the modules can't be loaded, leaving you with a kind of
> > crippled system. (bootable, but only partly usable)
> > Which is far from what people would usually expect.
> >
> > --
> >
> > A better, but more complicated setup consists of various snapshots of
> > various subvolumes which are mounted to various locations. (e.g.
> > standalone subvolumes for /home, games, backups, ... whatever)
> > Often managed by some software (snapper, timeshit, ... not sure about
> > the specific names), rather than the btrfs commands themselves.
> >
> > --
> >
> > I managed to craft a setup that changes which snapshot (or which OS)
> > will boot by changing just a single symlink.
> > That too would be (likely ?) impossible with /boot on a separate partition.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Michal Schorm
> > Software Engineer
> > Core Services - Databases Team
> > Red Hat
> >
> > --
> >
> > On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 8:13 PM Tim via users
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, 2024-05-14 at 08:27 -0700, richard emberson wrote:
> >>> Back on 05/03/2024 I posted the question:
> >>> "How to increase size of /boot partition"
> >>> I had the same problem.
> >>>
> >>> As was noted by some, I had not upgraded for a long, long time:
> >>> "This type of layout and partition sizes is ancient.  /tmp isn't even 
> >>> a partition now."
> >>
> >> Does /boot still need to be its own partition, these days?
> >>
> >> /boot/efi has to be, but that's mapped into /boot, already.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> NB:  All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted.
> >> I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the list.
> >>
> >> The following system info data is generated fresh for each post:
> >>
> >> uname -rsvp
> >> Linux 6.2.15-100.fc36.x86_64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Thu May 11 16:51:53
> >> UTC 2023 x86_64
> 

Re: /boot too small

2024-05-14 Thread Michal Schorm
On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 1:45 AM Chris Adams  wrote:
> Once upon a time, Michal Schorm  said:
> > On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 8:13 PM Tim via users
> >  wrote:
> > > Does /boot still need to be its own partition, these days?
> > > /boot/efi has to be, but that's mapped into /boot, already.
> >
> > Definitely not.
>
> It does for a variety of cases, such as an encrypted root filesystem.

I do have full disk encryption /boot included.
Or do you want your kernels to be tampered with by anyone that gets
hands onto your computer?

It is a bit more complex, but not that much.
The main trick was to automatically bake an extra decryption key into
the kernel every time it's installed, so you don't need to put it in
twice. (Once for GRUB to find the kernel, second time for kernel to be
able to touch the FS)

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On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 1:45 AM Chris Adams  wrote:
>
> Once upon a time, Michal Schorm  said:
> > On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 8:13 PM Tim via users
> >  wrote:
> > > Does /boot still need to be its own partition, these days?
> > > /boot/efi has to be, but that's mapped into /boot, already.
> >
> > Definitely not.
>
> It does for a variety of cases, such as an encrypted root filesystem.
>
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