Re: F19 --> F18 feasible?
# yum abracadabra *poof!* :-P On 10/20/2013 1:16 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: H? I wonder if there's a yum command that will change a i686 system to a x86_64 system of the same release. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: how to start scanner as mortal user
Ranjan, I have no experience with this, but have you tried adding your user to the xsane group? It could be that simple... maybe. On 10/17/2013 9:39 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: Hello, I have an old HP PSC2410 scanner/fax/printer which I have managed to get started all right upon installing hplip hpijs libsane-hpaio hplip-libs hplip-common (some may be superfluous) and using the text-based interactive setup. I also installed xsane. I am most interested in the scanner: I managed to get this working just fine, but only under root (sudo xsane). Is there a way to get this started as a mortal user (little me)? Many thanks, Ranjan -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 16 Beta - Google Account Integration
On 10/16/2011 11:04 PM, D. Marshall Lemcoe Jr. wrote: > In F16 when you go to "Online Accounts" it prompts to authenticate > your Google account, and then gives a list of toggle switches if you > want to "turn on" you calendar, mail, contacts, etc. What happens if you have multiple Google accounts? I have my personal email on Google Apps, Another account for my Android phone (so I don't get tons of email on the phone), and a third @gmail.com for Google+ because Google can't get it's act together and allow Profiles on Google Apps accounts. -- Chris Kloiber -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Results of the voting for the Fedora 17 release name
On 10/10/2011 10:57 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > - Original message - >> Actually, I have to believe this is a joke email if it is true, >> then all I can wonder is if Fedora naming is under the control of 13 >> year olds just learning about wink, wink, nudge, nudge. >> >> It is so wrong ... its actually a bit replusive > I voted a 0 on this name. Did anyone else complaining even vote? There was > low voter turnout. I'm not a developer, therefore no vote. But I sure can have an opinion. Queue the Pr0n-groove music (somewhat safe for work): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLb9jPuDS9Y -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Results of the voting for the Fedora 17 release name
On 10/10/2011 10:41 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > On 10/10/2011 06:58 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: >> I agree >> >> On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 20:40:01 -0500 Chris Kloiber >>wrote: >> >>> Wow... >>> >>> That just sounds wrong on *SO* many levels. >>> >>>>> Beefy Miracle > Actually, I have to believe this is a joke email if it is true, > then all I can wonder is if Fedora naming is under the control of 13 > year olds just learning about wink, wink, nudge, nudge. > > It is so wrong ... its actually a bit replusive Queue up the "Pr0n Groove" soundtrack... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Results of the voting for the Fedora 17 release name
Wow... That just sounds wrong on *SO* many levels. On 10/10/2011 09:05 PM, Jared K. Smith wrote: > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Jared K. Smith > wrote: >> The voting has concluded for the Fedora 16 release name, and the >> results are in! Thank you to the Fedora community members who made >> name suggestions and participated in the voting. >> >> The Fedora 16 release name is: Beefy Miracle > Sorry for the confusion... that's the Fedora 17 name. > > -- > Jared Smith > Fedora Project Leader -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Modern Firefox versions for F14?
After some quick Googling, it's apparent there are 3rd party repos offering more modern Firefox versions for F14 and up. My question is why these packages are not in Fedora proper. I could not find a statement as to why this is the case. I'd have thought this would be a security issue and get fixed. Thanks. -- Chris Kloiber -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Vote to extend F14 security updates
On 9/2/2011 1:17 PM, Wade Hampton wrote: > I agree with those asking to extend F14. Extending > support will allow more time to fix F16 to better address > the GUI issues with Gnome 3, hopefully. > > Cheers, > -- > Wade Hampton H*ll yes! Where can I vote? I absolutely can *NOT* use F15 or F16 as my work computer. I am required to use Windows7 64bit Enterprise on the physical hardware (must run Cisco Agent and vSphere clients that are not going to work on Linux), and the Oracle VirtualBox does not adequately permit 3d to run the "drain bamaged" Gnome3 in a "not going to lock up" manner. -- Chris Kloiber -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: GNOME 2 on Fedora 15
On 08/29/2011 12:38 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 08/29/2011 09:32 PM, Tim wrote: >> On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 15:15 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >>> Note that GNOME 2.x won't get any security updates which might be >>> something you need to keep in mind. This is part of the reason that >>> Fedora along with other distros will have to move to follow GNOME 3.x >>> releases. >> One wonders how this will impact on the various long life distributions, >> where you're expected to keep using Linux version x(not changing).y(not >> changing).z(only part that changes), then? Because they're supposed to >> run for years, *with* security updates, but no large version changes. > Those distros all have maintainers who will backport fixes. > Commercial enterprise distros don't depend on upstream maintainers. > That's part of the value of paying them. > > Rahul There is nothing to backport, as those changes are taken from upstream, which no longer exists. -- Chris Kloiber -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: PDF to text?
You could try something like: # pdf2ps input.pdf postscript.ps # ps2ascii postscript.ps output.txt Good luck. On 08/12/2011 11:10 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: > I have a .pdf file I need to convert to text in order to use > Google translate on it. I tried copy/paste but it won't copy > from a .pdf. > > I don't care about format just need to translate with fair > accuracy from the French. > > Is there a conversion app.?. > > Bob > > > -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Today's GNOME3 funny
On 05/28/2011 05:12 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > I was looking at gnome3.org today, and their FAQ says that "The traditional > GNOME 2 desktop will not disappear overnight, however: releases of GNOME 2 > will > continue to be supported by distributions for years to come." so clearly they > don't imagine everyone will drop all their software and retrain all their > users > overnight. > > Ubuntu doesn't see to have that thought, either. > > I was looking for a way to run fc15 in a VM, which worked in the alpha and > hasn't (for me) since. The FAQ says that's the case, no VM has a powerful > enough > video emulation to handle the worthless eye candy. The Virtualbox people say > much the same, but their spin is that the video could do the job but GNOME > insisted on using some direct to hardware stuff they don't off. I freely > admit I > didn't spend a lot of time deciding anything other than both of them imply the > fault is with the other. > > My fc13 machines are moving to RHEL6.0 or a similar distribution, I'll be able > to keep them secure for a while and see which way the wind blows. > VirtualBox 4.0.8 does enough 3d emulation (after installing the client tools) to start Gnome3. I am having a problem though when I try to access the "System Settings"/"System Info" icon. The window appears to open, but it's completely white. If you dare click anywhere on anything else, (like the "Application" link, the Clock, or your full name) the whole screen turns white, and the font goes to hell. After that the whole desktop becomes unusable. The VM is not hung though, as you can still Ctrl-Shift-F2 to a console, log in as root, and "init 3 && init 5" to restart the desktop. Too bad I need to access some settings in that dialog... Can any one running F15 in the latest VirtualBox confirm this, if so I will bugzilla it. -- Chris Kloiber -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: So where are my workspaces??
On 04/30/2011 01:17 PM, James Wilkinson wrote: > Chris Kloiber wrote: >> I run 8 workspaces, 4 across, 2 high. Email on screen 4 (upper right) >> personal stuff on 8 (lower right) and up to 6 different work tickets on >> the others. It's important for me to directly access any of them with a >> click on the panel so I can jump back and forth from ticket to ticket as >> needed. From what I have seen and heard so far, I'm screwed. Please >> prove me wrong. > I understand it is possible: > * to assign keyboard shortcuts to take you to a particular workspace: > (Windows / Super / Menu) plus number has been suggested. > * to use the Windows key to bring up the overview mode, which may be > faster than going to the top left corner then the right-hand side of > the screen. > * to install gnome-shell-extensions-auto-move-windows, which: > Lets you manage your workspaces more easily, assigning a > specific workspace to each application as soon as it creates a > window, in a manner configurable with a GSettings key. > > As other people have indicated, you may find that having as many > workspaces as needed, rather than being artificially limited to six, is > a major bonus. You may also find that the overview graphical preview of > your workspaces is much more useful than the Gnome 2 one, since it will > show you a lot more clearly what is in each workspace. > > Hope this helps, > > James. Thank you, but I'll pass. I have since found that the magic incantation in fallback mode is to use ALT when right clicking on the Gnome-Panel will give me all the old options like adding things, moving things, etc. Now all I need to discover is how to change the system theme to not be what appears to be "black on black" so I can get the colors correct. Then Fallback mode may just be usable. Let Gnome3 simmer for a few releases to see if all the pointy edges (read: painful changes) get fixed. Oh, and I don't do a "Windows" key. My keyboard was made in Feb.1988 for a PC-XT, and has been upgraded to PS/2 or USB as needed. I like the IBM Model-M "clicky" keys, and the idea that it's built solid enough to deflect bullets. (a little bit anyway... B^) BTW- How would "gnome-shell-extensions-auto-move-windows" handle that I want a different Firefox window in practically all of my workspaces, and I want the same Pidgin to show up the "current" workspace, and follow me around? And if I want Thunderbird in workspace #4 before setting up magic workspaces 2 and 3? -- Chris Kloiber -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: So where are my workspaces??
On 04/27/2011 06:58 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 04/28/2011 04:16 AM, Beartooth wrote: >> Well, I did three in that format, and stopped there, meaning to >> ask how I leave a workspace blank; but it got me an error message in >> techtalk over my head about usage. It had to do with schema, path, key, >> and value -- whatever those are ... > Empty workspaces don't make much sense when workspaces are dynamic but > if you want help, you need to give the specific command and output > instead of this vague description > > Rahul I run 8 workspaces, 4 across, 2 high. Email on screen 4 (upper right) personal stuff on 8 (lower right) and up to 6 different work tickets on the others. It's important for me to directly access any of them with a click on the panel so I can jump back and forth from ticket to ticket as needed. From what I have seen and heard so far, I'm screwed. Please prove me wrong. I can't dedicate hardware to try and find workarounds on my own, and Gnome 3 doesn't do Virtualization (yet) so I won't get very far with it. Chris Kloiber. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: IPTABLES rule for separating users
On 03/05/2011 03:58 AM, erikmccaskey64 wrote: I have an OpenWrt 10.03 router [ IP: 192.168.1.1 ], and it has a DHCP server pool: 192.168.1.0/24 - clients are using it through wireless/wired connection. Ok! Here's the catch: I need to separate the users from each other. How i need to do it: by IPTABLES rule [ /etc/firewall.user ]. Ok! "Loud thinking": So i need a rule something like this [on the OpenWrt router]: - DROP where SOURCE: 192.168.1.2-192.168.1.255 and DESTINATION is 192.168.1.2-192.168.1.255 The idea is this. Ok! Questions! - Will i lock out myself if i apply this firewall rule? - Is this a secure method? [ is it easy to do this?: hello, i'm a client, and i say, my IP address is 192.168.1.1! - now it can sniff the unencrypted traffic! :( - because all the clients are in the same subnet! ] - Are there any good methods to find/audit for duplicated IP addresses? - Are the any good methods to find/audit for duplicated MAC addresses? - Are there any good methods to do this IPTALBES rule on Layer2?: `$ wget -q "http://downloads.openwrt.org/backfire/10.03/ar71xx/packages/"; -O - | grep -i ebtables` `$ ` p.s.: The rule would be [is it on a good chain?]: iptables -A FORWARD -m iprange --src-range 192.168.1.2-192.168.1.255 --dst-range 192.168.1.2-192.168.1.255 -j DROP Thank you! On the face of it, it sounds like you want something this on your router: -A INPUT -s 192.168.1.0/24 -d 192.168.1.0/24 -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-host-prohibited -I INPUT 1 -s 192.168.1.2/32 -d 192.168.1.1/32 -j ACCEPT This assumes you have a static IP of 192.168.1.2, and the router is 192.168.1.1. That way you won't lock yourself out of the router's configuration gui or ssh. You can try and test it out anyway. I perfer REJECT rather than drop, it causes less problems. Leave DROP for the bad guys you want to slow down with time-outs. I haven't tried this, so YMMV, and I might be all wet. -- Chris Kloiber smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: [OT Humor] "Obviously designed by morons"
On 03/19/2011 10:43 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 10:36:56 -0400 Genes MailLists wrote: Oh yeah. I like keeping my system spun up all the time in case I want to connect remotely. There doesn't even seem to be an option to never spin down or never suspend/hibernate any more. Surely that cannot be true .. can it ? There is always kill -9 the gnome power manager daemon - I've done things like that before to "tweak" gnome before I was able to track down the obscure files in places like /etc/xinint (or whatever it is called) to turn them off up front. Thanks. -- Chris Kloiber smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: [OT Humor] "Obviously designed by morons"
On 03/19/2011 10:30 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 03/19/2011 05:35 PM, JB wrote: So, I am wondering if Fedora takes into consideration providing GNOME 2 as well (in parallel) with F15 and for some time beyond ? Is there any official statement by Fedora with regard to that ? No plans to provide older versions. You can use one of the following things: * Fallback mode which runs Metacity and GNOME Panel. You can force this setting even if your system is capable of running GNOME Shell. Otherwise it is only enabled in systems which are not capable Let's hope Fallback mode isn't complete yet then. I have never liked the main-menu-at-the-top arrangement with a top and bottom panel (These damn 16:9 screens don't have enough vertical resolution to begin with!), I use a single bottom panel, and I don't mind modifying things to accomplish it. I *do* very much mind having that option removed completely. * Switch to Xfce. Which can be configured to look and feel identical to GNOME 2.x or try KDE or whatever Interesting. I have not looked at Xfce in a very, very long time. * Not upgrade and see if a future revision is more palatable to you It may come to that. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: [OT Humor] "Obviously designed by morons"
On 03/18/2011 05:35 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 03/18/2011 02:15 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: (only 1 panel, Gnome shell-like setup) and have been doing so for over a year now. The first thing I do on any new install is move everything I need to the bottom panel and get rid of the top one. Even with the desktop cube from Compiz, I see no reason to waste screen real estate that way. Ditto! -- Chris Kloiber smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: [OT Humor] "Obviously designed by morons"
On 03/18/2011 03:17 PM, suvayu ali wrote: On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 03/18/2011 11:39 AM, suvayu ali wrote: No need to go that far back in time. I am using linux for 3 years now, and I absolutely detest when new releases take away my ability to tweak. If nothing else, I resent the way they've made it almost impossible to customize your system sounds. ... and the power management madness. :-/ Oh yeah. I like keeping my system spun up all the time in case I want to connect remotely. There doesn't even seem to be an option to never spin down or never suspend/hibernate any more. -- Chris Kloiber smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: [OT Humor] "Obviously designed by morons"
On 03/18/2011 07:46 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Fri, 18 Mar 2011 08:10:16 -0300 Fernando Cassia wrote: This is when she proclaimed that W7 was, "obviously designed by morons". Google is going down the same path Just wait till everyone sees gnome 3 :-). Uh.. yeah. Just did for the first time. It's pretty, I'll give it that. Of course if I wanted a MAC, I'd buy one. Finally got out of it and into the "fallback" mode, and find I still can't use that as it's been gutted. I can't even move the silly gnome-panel to the bottom of the screen, or move items around to my liking. I may have to skip F15, which saddens me. Please Include all of the F14 version/branch of Gnome as the Fallback mode. -- Chris Kloiber smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Firefox error
Sounds to me that Firefox is "protecting" you from this exploit by preventing the connection. Perhaps it's being a bit over-protective, and should allow you to override it like an expired/self-signed SSL Certificate. The actual problem is most likely the scs.fidelity.com web server however. On 03/06/2011 10:25 PM, les wrote: I am getting the following error on one of my fidelity pages: scs.fidelity.com : server does not support RFC 5746, see CVE-2009-3555 I googled "CVE-2009-3555" which reveled the following: The TLS protocol, and the SSL protocol 3.0 and possibly earlier, as used in Microsoft Internet Information Services (IIS) 7.0, mod_ssl in the Apache HTTP Server 2.2.14 and earlier, OpenSSL before 0.9.8l, GnuTLS 2.8.5 and earlier, Mozilla Network Security Services (NSS) 3.12.4 and earlier, multiple Cisco products, and other products, does not properly associate renegotiation handshakes with an existing connection, which allows man-in-the-middle attackers to insert data into HTTPS sessions, and possibly other types of sessions protected by TLS or SSL, by sending an unauthenticated request that is processed retroactively by a server in a post-renegotiation context, related to a "plaintext injection" attack, aka the "Project Mogul" issue. In my case this means I have a function that will not load from the fidelity website. And from reading this, maybe a "man in the middle" vulnerability. Does anyone know if this has been fixed? This would appear to be SSL or OS related from the description, so Firefox and Mono or Moonlight wouldn't seem to be the correct locations for a bug report, and since it is a "known" hazard, the bug must have already been reported. So my question is what should I do to rectify the situation? Les H -- Chris Kloiber smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora 14 and Nvidia 460 Fermi
Is that using rpmfusion packages, or nVidia's blob installer? The company I work for offers CUDA servers now, and they seem to be running the same nvidia driver version I use on my desktop (without CUDA, obviously). It seems the CUDA libraries aren't packaged by rpmfusion, but may get installed by the blob installer. I would try the nVidia installer from their website, and if that works compare the libraries installed to the rpmfusion packages. Find the differences and bug rpmfusion packagers to package the extra libraries if possible, perhaps as a separate "nvidia-cuda" package? Hope that helps. On 12/30/2010 03:59 PM, Michael Miles wrote: Hello there I just a had a big surprise when I got a shiny new Nvidia 460 GTX for Christmas. I tried to get the Cuda device working under Fedora 14 x86_64 and there is no support out yet for Cuda 3.2 All the Video works ok under the Nvidia 260 driver package but getting Cuda to work is another thing all together. Has anyone out there had similar problems with this card. This is one hot damn card and the only real support is with Windows 7 x64 I am running Windows now and everything works flawlessly but I miss the security under Fedora. I am seeing now that I have to wait for linux drivers and cuda support to become available under fedora 14 Seti at home is where I am having the real problems under Fedora. No matter what I do with Cuda 3.2 under Fedora it just errors out all the cuda workunits With this card under Windows I get 860 gflops / second computation speed with double precision computing. Under Fedora the speed is cut in half and errors out all the Cuda workunits I really miss Fedora Michael -- Chris Kloiber smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: VirtualBox, USB, Droid & F12
On 10/23/2010 01:31 PM, Greg Woods wrote: I'm trying to sync my Droid phone with a Windows application. Doesn't sound like a Fedora issue at first, but read on. I've got two machines with the same motherboard and CPU, but otherwise not identical hardware. Both are running Windows 7 virtual machines under VirtualBox 3.2.10, latest version downloaded from virtualbox.org. Both are running Fedora 12. On one, everything works just fine. On the other, the Motorola USB device is greyed out and I cannot connect it to the virtual machine. The Droid is plugged in while configured for "Charge Only", but on both machines dmesg shows that it is detected as a Mass Storage device and it is configured as a disk (but not actually mounted). On the one that works, I can then select it in the Devices -> USB Devices menu in VirtualBox and it works just fine on the Windows 7 VM. On the other, it is greyed out and listed as Not Available. Obviously, something in the host OS (Fedora 12) has claimed it but I cannot for the life of me figure out what. This situation persists even if I rmmod the usb-storage module. In that case, "usbview" shows the Motorola device in red (meaning it has no driver). But it is still greyed out in VirtualBox. Is there any way to find out what it is that is claiming this device? That is the crucial first step to solving this problem. Thanks, --Greg I think this is something you may have forgotten to do when you installed VirtualBox. IIRC your user has to be a member of the vboxusers group or something like that in order for you to access USB correctly. Worth a Google. BTW, I had successfully used RSDLite within my Win7 guest several times in VirtualBox to flash my DROID (before I discovered sbf_flash, that is). -- Chris Kloiber smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: SELinux
All probably true, but I dread the day they decide to make SELinux mandatory, and take away the ability to disable it (in the name of security). On 08/29/2010 01:44 PM, mike cloaked wrote: With many selinux issues with a bit of effort and help from a few experts the issues can often be resolved - I have been running all my systems with selinux enforcing since F9 - and the additional protection is worth it. There are a few things from outside Fedora (like Crossover) that will only work in f13 with one selinux setting downgrading security but other than that I have no problem with any of the systems. The other thing that is worthwhile it actually reading the selinux guide and understanding how it ticks. That way you can often work around problems yourself with a bit of probing of the files and processes involved in an AVC denial. There are some real experts around on this list and they are often ready to make suggestions from their significant knowledge base that is worthwhile listening to and by responding and working with them then more often than not the issues can be resolved. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: VMWare and Fedora 13
Really? Last I knew it would not even run unless it found particular raid adapters, or a fiber san connection. Must look into it again... On 08/20/2010 11:58 PM, Christopher A. Williams wrote: On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 21:24 -0400, Chris Kloiber wrote: On 08/20/2010 12:15 AM, Christopher A. Williams wrote: Otherwise, you need to just run a Type 1 hypervisor, which leaves you with VMware ESXi Free edition. It's limited in what it can do compared to the full version, but it definitely works, and works well. I haven't looked into that much, but I understand you need some serious hardware to make ESXi boot. Much more than the typical desktop, anyway. Have you gotten this to work on a whitebox (no raid) one random nic??? Yes I have. Compared to an older desktop computer, yes you need a little more serious hardware. This is not a desktop hypervisor. Ideally, you want at least 1 good quad-core processor and 4GB of RAM. Two processors and 8GB will start to give you some real capacity. You also really want plenty of Gig-E NICs (starting with 4), unless you can afford 10G Ethernet - a couple of 10G NICs will hold you for a long time. It then tends to scale up from there, but more so in terms of how many virtual machines you can run as opposed to how fast they run. I have a server in my church with 4GB RAM, 2 Gig-E NICs, and a single Quad-Core CPU. I could realistically run 3 to 4 VMs of average size on it, but would need more RAM to do anything more than that. Ironically, on the lower end of the scale, it's possible, if you have VMware Workstation on a decently powered desktop, to run ESXi in a VM. Virtualizing Hypervisors is done more for training purposes than anything else. It's not fast, but it works well enough to give you a good idea of what a larger system would need. Cheers, Chris smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Recent Mirror Drain Bamage?
That would be a pain for the one box at work, and 1 box at home. I am seeing errors when trying to pull data from either location when it tries some of the mirrors. (Yeah, I'll have to start a list) On 08/19/2010 10:58 PM, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 21:53 -0400, Chris Kloiber wrote: Is it just me, or are the Fedora 13 repos experiencing real problems lately? I have to run yum upgrade as many as 10 times in a row to pull down all the updates as I keep getting what amounts to transient 404 errors (may/may not work the second or third time, probably trying a different mirror). Just wondering... Chris, To minimize my WAN traffic, I rsync the F13 release and update mirrors from //download.fedora.redhat.com to local repos every day, then yum update all my systems using those locals (rather like RHEL's Satellite). I've not seen any difficulties like you describe. (I'd be happy to send you copies of those scripts if you'd like.) --Doc Savage Fairview Heights, IL smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: VMWare and Fedora 13
On 08/20/2010 12:15 AM, Christopher A. Williams wrote: Otherwise, you need to just run a Type 1 hypervisor, which leaves you with VMware ESXi Free edition. It's limited in what it can do compared to the full version, but it definitely works, and works well. I haven't looked into that much, but I understand you need some serious hardware to make ESXi boot. Much more than the typical desktop, anyway. Have you gotten this to work on a whitebox (no raid) one random nic??? smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Recent Mirror Drain Bamage?
Is it just me, or are the Fedora 13 repos experiencing real problems lately? I have to run yum upgrade as many as 10 times in a row to pull down all the updates as I keep getting what amounts to transient 404 errors (may/may not work the second or third time, probably trying a different mirror). Just wondering... -- Chris Kloiber smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: VMWare and Fedora 13
Use the following repo, and get VirtualBox-3.2. Free as in beer. For me, it works well while VMWare does not support F13 (I could not even run the installer) # cat /etc/yum.repos.d/virtualbox.repo [virtualbox] name=Fedora $releasever - $basearch - VirtualBox baseurl=http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/rpm/fedora/$releasever/$basearch enabled=1 gpgcheck=1 gpgkey=http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian/oracle_vbox.asc # yum install VirtualBox-3.2 On 08/19/2010 08:39 PM, Krosh Ivanov wrote: Hi guys, I've installed VMWare and its dependencies ( kernel-headers ). kernel-devel, kernel-pae-devel and others are installed too, but it keeps asking for kernel-headers. What path should I put in "Location" field for VMWare to work? Thanks smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora can't detect PCI devices
Have you tried the BIOS option that clears or resets "ESCD"? (Sorry, not in front of a machine I can reboot to get the right terminology). I had a similar problem with my Gigabyte board that disavowed all knowledge of one of the onboard NICs and the Firewire UUID was all "...". The "dmidecode" command claimed there was no SMBIOS on the system at all until this option was set once and the system rebooted. Then it all worked just fine. This only affected "virgin" motherboards as I had bought a second that had the same issue, and was pulling what little hair I have left out until I tried it. Chris Kloiber On 08/18/2010 09:02 PM, Brian C. Huffman wrote: I just installed a new motherboard and memory in a machine that was previously working well. Unfortunately now the machine won't detect any of the PCI cards that are installed. The PCI-Express Video card is the exception - that's working fine. The motherboard in question is an Intel DP43BF. I have 3 PCI cards: a PVR250, Maudio Delta DiO, and Fusion HD DVB card. They don't show up in messages or in lspci -v Anyone have any suggestions? I'd rather not return the board, but I've tried various kernel options to no avail. :-( Thanks, Brian smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Recovering a Ghost Image
On 08/11/2010 10:10 AM, Paul F. Johnson wrote: Hi, Just before my old laptop was destroyed by the dog (don't ask), I made a back up from the laptop using Norton Ghost 15 thinking I would be able to use Norton via Wine to recover the archives. Turns out that N15 won't run under Wine and won't boot via another laptop (way too old). Shortly after the backup, my RAID array on the main machine went belly up, so I also lost a pile of stuff from there, but not the stuff from the old laptop (held on a different drive). Is there any way to dearchive a Norton image via qemu or something like that? TTFN Paul I thought Norton Ghost offers a bootable ISO for restoring? -- Chris Kloiber smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Howto script "sudo"?
On 07/18/2010 08:51 AM, Clemens Eisserer wrote: Hello, Is it possible to pass "sudo" the root-password in some way (I would prefer plaintext)? The reason is I use an umts-connection utility which has to run as root, and I don't want to have my parents type a root-password every time they connect to our ISP. For now I simply didn't set a root-password, and choose "run as: root" in KDE, but I really dislike this solution. Thank you in advance, Clemens Add the user to the 'wheel' group, then run visudo and un-comment this line: ## Same thing without a password %wheel ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL That's the easy-lazy way that lets them run anything with the word sudo in front of it. You could get a bit more secure, something like... username localhost=/path/to/command -options NOPASSWD:ALL I have obviously been easy-lazy about this as I am not 100% on the syntax. Enjoy! smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Minimum Required RPM Packages for Running Fedora
I thought F13 has a new "minimal" install option that gives you ~120 or so packages installed. That feature seems to have made it into the RHEL6 beta, too! (Very Cool, IMNSHO) -- Chris Kloiber On 07/14/2010 05:51 AM, siavash ghiasvand wrote: Dear All, For some reasons I want to know what are "Minimum Required RPM Packages" for installing fedora on a PC. At installation time, we can remove all optional packages and after removing them Fedora will install with nearly 200 packages! But, many of these packages are not necessary, for example OpenSSH, WireLess, etc. Then, when I tried to remove those unwanted packages after installation, many many dependencies appeared. So, I have two questions: 1- What are Minimum Required RPM Packages for installing Fedora? (just booting up the system with kernel and then, a simple command line access) 2- How can I reach this minimal system? (As I described above those dependencies make it impossible to remove unwanted packages after installation and also there is no option to remove unwanted packages before installation) Sincerely yours, Siavash Ghiasvand smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Converting DVD copy to AVI
On 07/08/2010 03:08 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 12:01 -0700, jack craig wrote: On 07/08/2010 11:16 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 11:02 -0700, jack craig wrote: On 07/08/2010 10:21 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I have a DVD structure (VIDEO_TS etc. etc.) on my hard disk and would like to convert the main feature to an AVI file, i.e. basically what rippers do but without the physical DVD. I know I can use ffmpeg or transcode to convert individual VOB files, but this seems error prone (e.g. how do I know I got all of the main feature?). Does anyone have a script for this sort of thing? Unfortunately K3B is no good as it insists on there being a physical DVD to rip from. poc you might look at mencoder, it takes .mov, it might take the dvd format too. Good idea. The manpage says it can read DVD structures, VOB files etc. Guess I'll have to invest some time in understanding the gazillion options. poc I recently ripped a DVD we got from a manta ray night dive event and found .vob files. I was surprised that vlc played the .vob out of the box! mplayer will do that too. Its great to see multimedia blossoming in Linux land. Indeed. Also, i got a blurb about a new Fluenda DVD play program for Linux, just fyi... Yes, I got that. $20 or so, no thanks. poc $20? Try $39 EUROS. Ridiculous. You could buy a dedicated DVD player for that. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: USB not working in VirtualBox F13
On 07/06/2010 09:20 AM, Mick M. wrote:
Hi;
Kernel x86_64 x86_64 x86_64
[r...@localhost ~]# rpm -qa VirtualBox*
VirtualBox-3.2-3.2.6_63112_fedora13-1.x86_64
This is the Oracle version, same for the fedora version.
I cannot install the OSE version as "there is no module for this kernel"
My userneme is mick, mick is a member of mick(500), usb(503), vboxusers(504).
I have a line in fstab:
none /proc/bus/usb usbfs devgid=503,devmode=66400
In VirtualBox -> USB All boxes are checked.
It sees "Kingston DataTraveller 2.0 (0200)", is dark text and seems normal.
Top line: Devices -> USB Devices - the Kingston is there but greyed out.
Bottom line hover over USB symbol "NO USB devices attached"
Any Ideas?
Standard guarantee applies - 30 feet or 30 seconds, whichever comes first.
# find / -name "*your base*" -exec chown us:us {} \;
The Oracle VirtualBox creates a group 'vboxusers'. Add yourself to this
group and USB works.
For the kernel module thing, make sure you have the dkms package installed.
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Re: Linux Games for Kids
On 07/05/2010 05:12 AM, birger wrote: On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 05:53 -0400, Chris Kloiber wrote: On 07/02/2010 01:08 AM, birger wrote: Ok. Steering Wheel w/linux support? Do tell! Uhmm? Should that be a problem? Seriously, I am amazed at the amount of peripherals that just work with Fedora 13. I use a Logitech steering wheel without any problems. My no-brand 3-axis+tophat USB joystick works just fine. I have not tried the Xbox gamepads with linux yet, but since they work fine with Windows I just expect them to work on Linux as well. Should it be a problem? No. Have I tried a joystick since Red Hat 7.x... No. Did it work then... Not for me. I'm interested for my 4 year old and my 2 year old. Driving with the arrow keys sucks. I'm hoping for an inexpensive wheel I can sacrifice (they're hard on toys) to my kids that is known to work. Doesn't seem that amazing to me. -- Chris Kloiber smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Connection activation failed: Device not managed by NetworkManager
On 07/04/2010 11:26 PM, Larry Brower wrote: Fedora User wrote: On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 21:46:42 -0500 Larry Brower wrote: Fedora User wrote: I have this (WLAN) configured as managed by NM in network configuration. Now what? The magic 8 ball says "Answer Hazy" The whole frigging thing is hazy. And, I am no newbie - going back to RH-7.2. Every friggin time I upgrade Fedora, something changes in NetworkManager. Moreover, the relationship between NM and Network Configuration is obscure at best. Now I am not getting the error message when I restart NM. And what the frig is this? " connection(1) /org/freedesktop/NetworkManagerSettings/1 failed to activate: (2) Device not managed by NetworkManager" If that (/org/freedesktop...)is a path, it neither exists in the file system nor proc. Now I see what you are saying, and honestly I do not have an answer for you. Someone else perhaps might. I tend not to use things like network manager. Just a guess, but that sounds like a "path" in the gconf database. -- Chris Kloiber smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Linux Games for Kids
On 07/04/2010 07:04 AM, Tim wrote: On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 05:53 -0400, Chris Kloiber wrote: Steering Wheel w/linux support? Do tell! I saw a brand-new wheel w/pedals (still in plastic) at a GoodWill the other day for about $8 (US$). But it had a joystick connector which I haven't seen on a PC in a decade or more. Any time I see (alleged) grown ups with those gaming steering wheels, it makes me think of these things: http://www.edb.utexas.edu/ATLab/Clipart/devicepics/activitybox.jpg http://www.handheldmuseum.com/Tomy/Tomy-TurninTurboDashboard.jpg ;-) Or any number of sitcoms where the teenage child is practising learning to drive with mum on the sofa, holding a dinner plate instead a steering wheel. I can't be the only one that thinks that... ;-) Oh, I love how the 'activity box' includes an in-dash cell phone. Guess that toy would be illegal in Georgia now if the device 'supports' texting. -- Chris Kloiber smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Linux Games for Kids
On 07/02/2010 01:08 AM, birger wrote: I have kids in that range myself, and these are the results of the jury: Get a wheel and start with tuxkart. It seems to be the biggest hit for kids that age on my linux game pc (rather old pc with decent graphics card and hi-res 24" screen). Ok. Steering Wheel w/linux support? Do tell! I saw a brand-new wheel w/pedals (still in plastic) at a GoodWill the other day for about $8 (US$). But it had a joystick connector which I haven't seen on a PC in a decade or more. Think I last saw such a port on an ISA sound card. -- Chris Kloiber smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Linux Games for Kids
On 07/01/2010 11:05 AM, Jim wrote: Can anyone give me some advice for game for kids ages 4-8 ? I have to build up a computer for kids to use at. 4-8. What is on the Fedora Repo's. Perhaps my 4 year old is not typical, but he loves playing things like bzflag, frozen-bubble, supertuxkart, tuxracer, AlienArena, AlienBlaster, Battle Tanks, etc. Online he plays things at pbskids.org, and nick.com No, he's not very good at the shooting games, but he knows he's getting creamed, and is trying to get better. He can't read yet, but can now recognize buttons to 'Start' and 'Quit' in most new games he tries. He even knows to try the 'escape' key if he gets stuck before calling for help. -- Chris Kloiber smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: evolution-data-server
Yes, all working for me now. Thank you! -- Chris Kloiber On 06/29/2010 11:54 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 06:43:00 -0400 Chris Kloiber wrote: Why is evolution-data-server still broken after this much time, and is anything being done to correct it? I'm guessing all the dependencies must be rebuilt against the new package. Yes. I think all of them have now been rebuilt and pushed out this morning. As soon as mirrors sync we should be back on track. Hopefully autoqa and critical path setups will be in place before something like this happens again. kevin smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
evolution-data-server
Why is evolution-data-server still broken after this much time, and is anything being done to correct it? I'm guessing all the dependencies must be rebuilt against the new package. So far I get the best results adding to the yum.conf: exclude=evolution* and occasionally un-commenting it to see if it's fixed. ... Resolving Dependencies --> Running transaction check --> Processing Dependency: libedataserver-1.2.so.11 for package: nautilus-sendto-2.28.4-1.fc13.i686 --> Processing Dependency: libedataserver-1.2.so.11 for package: gnome-panel-2.30.0-1.fc13.i686 ---> Package evolution-data-server.i686 0:2.30.2-2.fc13 set to be updated --> Finished Dependency Resolution Error: Package: gnome-panel-2.30.0-1.fc13.i686 (@anaconda-InstallationRepo-201005130056.i386) Requires: libedataserver-1.2.so.11 Removing: evolution-data-server-2.30.1-2.fc13.i686 (@anaconda-InstallationRepo-201005130056.i386) Error: Package: nautilus-sendto-2.28.4-1.fc13.i686 (@anaconda-InstallationRepo-201005130056.i386) Requires: libedataserver-1.2.so.11 Removing: evolution-data-server-2.30.1-2.fc13.i686 (@anaconda-InstallationRepo-201005130056.i386) You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem You could try running: rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest -- Chris Kloiber smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora 12/13 unexpected shut down Please help !!!
2 years huh? Get some canned air, and blow the dust out of the heat-sinks. Kernel compiles can get toasty. -- Chris Kloiber On 06/29/2010 06:18 AM, Onkar Mahajan wrote: I am doing kernel compilation on fedora 13 like this $ make -j2 bzImage modules Strangely, FC12 & FC13 running on AMD x86_64 machine happen to halts uncleanly (as if power goes off ) in the midst of compilation process. I have been using this machine for compilation for over 2 years on other distros such as debain, Suse, but such problem has never occured. Is anybody familiar of such thing happening� in FC12/13 distros. any configuration missing ?? or bug ? Regards, Onkar PS : on i386 machine - FC13 performs normally. but FC12 exhibits this kind of problematic behavior. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Anyone aware of an rdesktop *replacement*?
Why thank you! My gut reaction was remmina was a wrapper for rdesktop, but in it's latest release they have switched to using something called FreeRDP, which I had not heard of. FreeRDP is only a year-old fork of rdesktop, but they are trying to implement the features I am looking for. So while it may not be completely useful yet, I will be watching this. -- Chris Kloiber On 06/22/2010 11:23 AM, Suvayu Ali wrote: On Tuesday 22 June 2010 05:29 AM, Chris Kloiber wrote: Not looking for a wrapper to make it pretty. I need an rdesktop replacement with support for contacting Windows 2008 Datacenter with TLS encryption enabled. I've done a bunch of searching, but came up empty, not even any proprietary applications. I work at a large web hosting provider, and am seeing more and more systems that I have to use a Virtual Windows7 instance to manage. I don't use RDP. But I have used remmina for VNC. And it has support for RDP. You can try that out. Remmina comes as default with the XFCE desktop. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Anyone aware of an rdesktop *replacement*?
Not looking for a wrapper to make it pretty. I need an rdesktop replacement with support for contacting Windows 2008 Datacenter with TLS encryption enabled. I've done a bunch of searching, but came up empty, not even any proprietary applications. I work at a large web hosting provider, and am seeing more and more systems that I have to use a Virtual Windows7 instance to manage. Conversely, if anyone knows of patches to do this with rdesktop, I'd like to grab those too (even if they are half-baked patches). -- Chris Kloiber smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F13 new install: can't get ssh pubkey to work
IIRC, you might be having an SELINUX issue. Check to see if SELINUX does not like the labeling on the ~/.ssh/authorized_keys2 file. -- Chris Kloiber On 06/13/2010 01:06 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 06/12/2010 09:33 AM, sean darcy wrote: New install of F13. drwx--. 2 root root 4096 Jun 11 20:22 .ssh ls -l /root/.ssh total 12 -rw---. 1 root root 1006 Jun 11 20:23 authorized_keys The rsa key is in authorized_keys. But when I try to login into root: Jun 11 21:12:39 new-gateway sshd[1786]: debug1: temporarily_use_uid: 0/0 (e=0/0) Jun 11 21:12:39 new-gateway sshd[1786]: debug1: trying public key file /root/.ssh/authorized_keys Jun 11 21:12:39 new-gateway sshd[1786]: debug1: Could not open keyfile '/root/.ssh/authorized_keys': Permission denied /root/.ssh is 700, authorized_keys is 600. I've restarted sshd. I've rebooted. So what's my problem. FWIW, here is the process I just performed and had no problems. 1. Login as root to the F13 system. 2. Run ssh-keygen 3. Since I wanted my user key to allow for root access and since I'd already set that up I simply did "cat /home/egreshko/.ssh/authorized_keys> authorized_keys ; chmod 600 authorized_keys" in /root/.ssh All works fine smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Uninstalling real player (the "real" answer)
Not sure why, but Real has always renamed their rpm files like that. The installed package never has the same name as the package you install. Poor packaging of a proprietary app... Who knows what they are thinking? Fortunately, RealPlayer has become irrelevant. I haven't needed that in ages. -- Chris Kloiber On 06/13/2010 01:20 AM, Erik P. Olsen wrote: On 13/06/10 00:10, Steven P. Ulrick wrote: now the error is: prerm called with unknown argument `0' error: %preun(realplay-11.0.2.1744-1.i386) scriptlet failed, exit status 1 Yeah, that is precisely what I got. I installed RealPlayer11GOLD.rpm and the output in the terminal was as follows: [r...@localhost Downloads]# rpm -Uvh /var/cache/yum/x86_64/13/fedora/packages/*.rpm RealPlayer11GOLD.rpm Preparing...### [100%] 1:libXv ### [ 33%] 2:alsa-lib ### [ 67%] 3:realplay ### [100%] postinst called with unknown argument `1' warning: %post(realplay-11.0.2.1744-1.i386) scriptlet failed, exit status 1 I then ran "rpm -qa | grep -i realplay" I got the following: realplay-11.0.2.1744-1.i386 On my fedora 12 I get when I run "rpm -qa | grep -i realplay": RealPlayer-11.0.2.1744-20091006.i586 I wonder which one is the newest. Mine works OK. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Correct instructions for installing NVidia proprietary driver on Fedora 13?
To the end of the kernel line in grub I remove the "rhgb quiet" and add: nomodeset rdblacklist=nouveau Then (after adding the rpmfusion-free and non-free repos) I run: # yum -y install akmod-nvidia kmod-nvidia And finally reboot. After I get into X I run: # nvidia-settings This lets me set my resolution and second monitor options. -- Chris Kloiber On 05/31/2010 04:40 AM, Steven P. Ulrick wrote: Hi there Did you do a clean install? Yes. Did a clean install from the DVD, entirely wiped out my old Fedora 12 install. If this does not work then try the akmod instead of the kmod akmod will autotrack in newest kernel mod on boot yum list | grep -i akmod: akmod-nvidia.x86_641:195.36.24-1.fc13.5 @rpmfusion-nonfree akmods.noarch 0.3.6-3.fc12 @rpmfusion-free I used akmod on Fedora 12, and it always worked perfectly for me. In fact, everything with the proprietary nVidia driver worked perfectly. Steven P. Ulrick Wow dude... I am really not sure what is going on. From what I hear all people have to do is make sure rpmfusion is in repo and yum update This is the only thread were it has failed like this I guess the only thing left to try is not do it through yum but add/remove software It should not make a bit of difference, but you may want to remove the driver go back to nouveau and try the proprietary driver through add/remove software, as well as the kmod for the kernel version. Then lower protection (selinix) then rdblacklist=nouveau on kernel lines in grub.conf Agreed, it SHOULDN'T make a difference. But I'll give it a shot... 1. "Applications | System | Software Management" (kpackagekit) 2. Search for "kmod-nvidia" 3. Select "akmod-nvidia"& "kmod-nvidia" 4. Install the following packages: nvidia-settings xorg-x11-drv-nvidia nvidia-xconfig xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs kmod-nvidia-2.6.33.4-95.fc13.x86_64 5. "Apply" NOTHING was added to the end of the kernel line in grub.conf. Also, here is the contents of my xorg.conf file as it stands after I installed the above packages: # Xorg configuration created by livna-config-display Section "Files" ModulePath "/usr/lib64/xorg/modules" EndSection Section "ServerFlags" Option "AIGLX" "on" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Videocard0" Driver "vesa" EndSection Section "Extensions" Option "Composite" "Enable" EndSection So, I'm going to delete xorg.conf, add "rdblacklist=nouveau nomodeset" to the kernel line and reboot... I'll get back with you in a few minutes. Well, here's the results: the screen still goes black (and, according to the monitor itself) and goes into power save mode when it should be starting X. For kicks I tried rebooting WITHOUT doing the initramfs/dracut stuff. Things did not go any different than they do when I actually follow the correct instructions. One interesting observation: I am doing "rdblacklist=nouveau" and I do not even seem to have the "nouveau" driver running? my xorg.conf says "Driver "vesa"" Perhaps retrying AFTER WORK, and doing "rdblacklist=vesa"? Anyway, I NEED to get to work. Steven P. Ulrick smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How does F13 work with nvidia hardware ?
nouveau does work fine... If you have one screen, or two screens and like spanning desktops (with the second to the right of the first). If you (like I) prefer separate desktops (so I can put a virtual machine on the second monitor) and the second screen to the left of the first, you are still pretty much out of luck with nouveau. I tried out nouveau recently as I was experiencing "tearing" of the portions of the screen when scrolling firefox with a window partially on top of firefox and was hoping it was the driver. Unfortunately nouveau has the same problem. The spanning desktops were also driving me crazy. I put my virtual machine on the second monitor (to the left and full screen), then try opening firefox. It invariably opens *under* the virtual machine, completely hidden. This alone is enough to drive be back to the nvidia proprietary driver, in all it's glorified ugliness. I do hope some developer can take pity on me and address this shortcoming. -- Chris Kloiber On 05/27/2010 04:41 AM, Andrew Haley wrote: On 05/26/2010 05:37 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Linuxguy123 wrote: I run the proprietary, closed source nvidia driver in F12. What happens when I upgrade to F13 ? The short answer is that you may have to boot in vesafb mode and install the driver using that. If that doesn't work booting in run level three and upgrading your driver from CLI. That's what I used to do, and it worked fine. These days nouveau works so well that I don't bother with the proprietary driver. Andrew. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Would like to configure second local terminal.
Mikkel, Bruno, and Dale. Thank you! I will look into this although it does look dated. -- Chris Kloiber On 05/18/2010 11:37 AM, Dale Dellutri wrote: > > > On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 7:37 AM, Chris Kloiber <mailto:ckloi...@ckloiber.com>> wrote: > > I'm a tad short on hardware for a second box at home for the moment. > I do however have enough for 2 complete sets of Keyboard Video and > Mouse, and my system is quadcore with 4GB ram. I'd like to configure > the system to have two completely independent terminals (sound I > don't care about) But I have not found a good way to do this. I have > tried using VirtualBox and assigning a keyboard and mouse to the > guest only, but that only partially worked (mouse only). Any example > xorg.conf files would be appriciated (for nvidia or nouveau w/3d as > my kid likes games such as extremetuxracer and bzflag). Thanks. > > > Here's an article about doing six terminals at once. > > http://linuxgazette.net/124/smith.html > > It's an old article, but probably still applies. > Note the comments under "Problems:" near the end of the > article. > > > -- > Dale Dellutri > -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: First NFS entry in fstab not mounting at boot
Although I am not familiar with nfsv4, for nfsv3 'defaults' could be a pretty major performance problem. I typically use rw,hard,intr,rsize=8192,wsize=8192, In this case you might even want to add _netdev. _netdev The filesystem resides on a device that requires network access (used to prevent the system from attempting to mount these filesystems until the network has been enabled on the system). -- Chris Kloiber On 05/16/2010 04:43 PM, g wrote: BadMagic wrote: Basically, whichever entry goes first, doesn't get mounted. I can manually mount it after I've logged in like: If I repeat the top entry like: are the drives are spun down and at rest when you first try to mount? 'man nfs' for timeout setting info in fstab. are you connecting thru a firewall? anything in firewall rules time related? i recall a similar problem being posted years back, mandrake or redhat related. google did not show with word selections i used. :( No entries/errors are created in any log files to explain what's going on. boot w/o gui to enable your bootup messages to see what is happening. draw back is that partitions are not mounted sequentially so you will have to watch closely for errors. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Would like to configure second local terminal.
I'm a tad short on hardware for a second box at home for the moment. I do however have enough for 2 complete sets of Keyboard Video and Mouse, and my system is quadcore with 4GB ram. I'd like to configure the system to have two completely independent terminals (sound I don't care about) But I have not found a good way to do this. I have tried using VirtualBox and assigning a keyboard and mouse to the guest only, but that only partially worked (mouse only). Any example xorg.conf files would be appriciated (for nvidia or nouveau w/3d as my kid likes games such as extremetuxracer and bzflag). Thanks. -- Chris Kloiber smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Tell me proper URL for yum checking
Yes, and what he told you is that there is no legal URL for a Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4 yum repository. A Red Hat Network subscription (which uses up2date) is required. Now if you happen to have an RHN subscription, up2date can be coerced into using a third party yum repository. See /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources If you don't have an RHN subscription, you can convert your RHEL4 to CentOS4 by replacing the redhat-release with centos-release (IIRC) then use the CentOS4 yum repositories. -- Chris Kloiber On 03/18/2010 04:09 AM, SHIMADA, MAKOTO wrote: Thanks Ed Greshko; Exactly what are you trying to update via yum? No, I routinely use "up2date" to keep my RHEL4 machine up to date. You can't update the base packages of RHELv4 via yum since RH does not support yum at that release level. I know that. However, I need to install another software,which require yum. So, I have to install yum before the installation of the software. What I need is the URL to solve the IOError:. Thanks. Mark smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: dmidecode not working?
On 03/11/2010 11:59 AM, Suvayu Ali wrote: > On 11/03/10 01:06 PM, Chris Kloiber wrote: > >> Let me start by saying this may or may not be a Fedora issue. >> >> I recently purchased two Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P motherboards and am >> running F12 on them. The marketing for these boards say they support >> SMBIOS 2.4 and DMI, yet dmidecode says: >> >> [r...@phoenix ~]# dmidecode >> # dmidecode 2.10 >> # No SMBIOS nor DMI entry point found, sorry. >> >> > I have the exact same Mobo, and so far I have had no issues with either > of the NICs. I have used Fedora 10 and 11 with this board. However I > have not checked the BIOS version with dmidecode. I have done several > BIOS upgrades since I bought the board. Gigabyte provides binary updates > which you can use from a USB drive. Maybe you can try that? > > Sorry I can't help any more as I am 15 hrs away from my system and I > won't be back before next week. Hopefully this was of some help. > > Ok. Odd. I did flash one of the systems. Not to upgrade, but in th hope of correcting possible corruption. Didn't help. -- Chris Kloiber -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
dmidecode not working?
Let me start by saying this may or may not be a Fedora issue. I recently purchased two Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P motherboards and am running F12 on them. The marketing for these boards say they support SMBIOS 2.4 and DMI, yet dmidecode says: [r...@phoenix ~]# dmidecode # dmidecode 2.10 # No SMBIOS nor DMI entry point found, sorry. What could be wrong? I've never seen a system that fails on this command before, and now I have two of them? They also have a problem with the on-board LAN and probably Firewire. Neither onboard NIC is working, the first shows a MAC of ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff. The other looks ok, but fails to work. Disabling the on-board NICs and using an off-board, PCI NIC works. The Firewire controller (granted I don't really use it), also identifies itself oddly: firewire_ohci :06:07.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 23 (level, low) -> IRQ 23 firewire_ohci: Added fw-ohci device :06:07.0, OHCI version 1.10 firewire_core: created device fw0: GUID , S400 I suspect these are all related. Possibly a bad BIOS although both systems are fully updated in that respect. Anyone else have a similar issue? -- Chris Kloiber smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: ssh to my computer behind NAT
Oh. Well forgive me for suggesting a non-open source product, but look into Dropbox: http://www.dropbox.com/ With this, you copy items into the Dropbox on your system, and it's almost instantly accessible both from any other machine you install Dropbox on, or from the https://www.dropbox.com website. Free (as in beer) for up to 2 Gigs space. Not as good as getting into your system remotely, but oh well. -- Chris Kloiber On 03/09/2010 01:41 AM, Hiisi wrote: 2010/3/9 Rick Sewill: On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 00:08 -0600, Rick Sewill wrote: On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 08:40 +0300, Hiisi wrote: 2010/3/9 Rick Sewill: <--SNIP--> Hiisi. Registered Linux User #487982. Be counted at: http://counter.li.org/ -- Spandex is a privilege, not a right. Your explanation of a middle host is good. I didn't understand what you were doing, previously. Your description of NAT is fine. �Your ISP is doing NAT. My first thought is to say, talk to the ISP. The ISP should have a way for you to configure their NAT router to forward the ssh port to your host. I have difficulty thinking why the ISP wouldn't let you configure their NAT router to forward the ssh port to your host...unless. I hadn't thought of it before, but putting customers behind a NAT router, and not letting customers configure the NAT router to forward ports, might be a way to prevent customers running servers. Is this what the ISP is trying to do? �Stop customers running servers? If a customer wants to run a server, even an ssh server, which is what you wish to do, does the ISP wish to charge more money? *YES* If the ISP is deliberately stopping you, I'd say get another ISP. If you can't get another ISP, I don't know what to suggest. I just thought of another possibility the ISP might be doing. Are you, and some other customers of the ISP, sharing the same public IP address? �Doing so would reduce the number of public IP addresses the ISP would need. �I'd be very, very surprised if an ISP did this. I'd be more than surprised. �I'd be shocked. Take a deep breath! Yes, we're!!! I live in a students hostel and I'm unable to change ISP. The only other solution would be to to get a gprs-modem. But I don't want to bay it because prices are wild here in Moscow (and I'd have dynamic IP then, correct?). Before writing on this list I've consulted my ISP. They have no better (free) solution that the one I have at the moment. Alternatively, they can charge me with extra money for so called 'static IP'. I don't need it because I don't want to run WEB-server at home. I just want to access my files at home computer from lab computer to eliminate stresses in case I forgot a USB-drive in a rash to the lab :-) smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: ssh to my computer behind NAT
If that's true (they want to prevent you from running a server) then get a new ISP. -- Chris Kloiber On 03/09/2010 01:08 AM, Rick Sewill wrote: On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 08:40 +0300, Hiisi wrote: 2010/3/9 Rick Sewill: On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 00:49 +0300, Hiisi wrote: Dear list! I would like to be able to ssh to my home computer located behind my ISP' NAT. I know, I can tunnel to it through some middle host and actually I'm doing it at the moment. But I'm fancy is there a better solution? Is there a possibility of not using any computer at the <--SNIP--> If it's a company gateway, we mustn't help you defeat their security. I don't want to discuss whether having a gateway adds to security. Personally, I believe all devices in the internal LAN must be secure. I do not believe security can be done solely at the border of a LAN. Do you control the device that is doing NAT for you or does the ISP? If controlled by the ISP, did the ISP provide a way to configure it? As others have said and will say, one needs to have the NAT device port forward the appropriate port (whatever port you use for ssh) to your host. You and other, thank for your responses. Sorry I didn't make it clear. I don't have any router. I'm connected to Internet via LAN. My IP address is something like 192.168.3.20 and I use ISP' router IP (192.168.0.1) as a gateway (I don't have any access to the router). So, I decided its called NAT. Am I wrong here? I don't know. I know only that I can't reach my computer from the outside of the LAN. So, I did the following: on the target computer I ran: ssh -R 10002:localhost:22 u...@middle.host (it's a computer somewhere and I have ssh access there) Now I can connect to the target computer in a few steps: 1. connect to middle.host: ssh u...@middle.host 2. and from there: ssh hi...@home.computer -p 10002 See, it's not very convenient and I'm not sure whether it's possible to use VNC using this setup (as I would like to). So, is there any better solution? -- Hiisi. Registered Linux User #487982. Be counted at: http://counter.li.org/ -- Spandex is a privilege, not a right. Your explanation of a middle host is good. I didn't understand what you were doing, previously. Your description of NAT is fine. Your ISP is doing NAT. My first thought is to say, talk to the ISP. The ISP should have a way for you to configure their NAT router to forward the ssh port to your host. I have difficulty thinking why the ISP wouldn't let you configure their NAT router to forward the ssh port to your host...unless. I hadn't thought of it before, but putting customers behind a NAT router, and not letting customers configure the NAT router to forward ports, might be a way to prevent customers running servers. Is this what the ISP is trying to do? Stop customers running servers? If a customer wants to run a server, even an ssh server, which is what you wish to do, does the ISP wish to charge more money? If the ISP is deliberately stopping you, I'd say get another ISP. If you can't get another ISP, I don't know what to suggest. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Where is 2.6.32?
Having just been burned with the F13 RC4 Alpha, the new x11 nouveau stuff makes using the nvidia (proprietary) driver temporarily impossible (and the 3d nouveau won't even run extremetuxracer or bzflag, so it's out 'cuz my 3yr old says so!) as you get a need for -ingoreABI for the xinput stuff. The new x11 provides version 9 and the nvidia driver needs "<8" or something like that. In any event, the system dies. Not looking forward to F12 pushing the new x11 bits until Nvidia wakes up to the coming flames. -- Chris Kloiber On 03/06/2010 06:39 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 18:24:48 -0500, Mail Lists wrote: I use nouveau - and I cannot at present run 2.6.33 or 2.6.34 wihout essentially pulling in a lot of X. Tho' according to satisfy linus' complaint, it looks like on ecould compile the nouveau driver and use that - however - it sure would be nice if the nouveau folks made it easier to run both 2.6.32 and also the newer kernels on F12. More likely it will be on the Fedora Project to do this. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora 12 does not work after replacing the motherboard
Well if a kernel is panics, the first thing it typically does is stop disk writing to prevent corruption (I haven't played with kdump yet). More stuff can often get logged, but its lost in memory when the board gets re-powered. If you are logging to serial, that information can sometimes be preserved. -- Chris Kloiber On 03/06/2010 03:40 AM, Andrew Junev wrote: Hello Tim, Saturday, March 6, 2010, 10:19:11 AM, you wrote: If you have the ability, you can try getting the computer to output a log to a serial port, and have another computer monitor it while you crash it. That's one technique to debug a computer that crashes very badly. Thanks for the hint! That's an interesting idea. I do have a "proper" serial port on the motherboard, and I can find another machine with a serial port to monitor it. But... Ask someone else for advise on setting that up, though. It's a very long time since I've played with serial ports, and you probably do need a PC with genuine serial ports to try that. That's the problem. I have no idea on how to configure a machine to output logs to a serial port. And I don't really know what logs should be put there. '/var/log/messages' are being kept on the disk after a reboot, and it doesn't contain anything wrong, in my opinion... smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Hulu.com and 64-bit Problem?
I did try scaling the desktop and it does "work" for varying values of "work". (Thanks Michael!) Although I especially hate the "we're going to start up things with a running trailer for 'Karate Kid 2' before you even get logged in so you can reduce the volume or mute it" tactic. Wonderful for working environments, even if it is your lunch hour^H^H^H^ 42 minutes you want to waste. Have you seen the new error message at Hulu blaming Adobe? It doesn't fly, especially considering the Desktop does work with the same damn plugin. Anyway, I digress and am off-topic. -- Chris Kloiber On 03/04/2010 05:36 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: --- On Thu, 3/4/10, Chris Kloiber wrote: Ah yes, but it's a bitc^H^H^H^H bit difficult to control/find your desired content, and I don't think it will scale to a tiny "always on top" window in the corner of your desktop so you can work while watching, similar to the popout feature. Buckets full of FAIL, IMHO. -- Chris Kloiber I agree. In designing the user interface "coolness" was paramount, not functionality, a bad recipe. That pervasive philosophy coupled with arrogance--consumers really don't know what they want--you end up with crap that looks "cool," but lacks ease and simplicity of operation. KISS is my advice to the designers of Huludesktop. B On 03/02/2010 12:25 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: On 03/01/2010 11:15 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: Thanks for the link.� Read numerous posts and replies.� Several people said by wrapping the 32-bit flash plugin on their 64-bit systems/browsers, they got Hulu to work.� However, I never was happy with the performance of the wrapped flash plugin.� It was worse than the 64-bit Alpha.� Maybe, I'll just install 32-bit Firefox and use it for those times I need it now that I know the problem is not exclusively a 64-bit OS problem.� I already have a few 32-bit apps on my system.� So, another one isn't going to bother me.� (I'm not a 64-bit only fanatic.) Just use huludesktop. It will work fine with the 64-bit plugin. They provide a 64-bit RPM on hulu.com. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Hulu.com and 64-bit Problem?
Ah yes, but it's a bitc^H^H^H^H bit difficult to control/find your desired content, and I don't think it will scale to a tiny "always on top" window in the corner of your desktop so you can work while watching, similar to the popout feature. Buckets full of FAIL, IMHO. -- Chris Kloiber On 03/02/2010 12:25 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: On 03/01/2010 11:15 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: Thanks for the link. Read numerous posts and replies. Several people said by wrapping the 32-bit flash plugin on their 64-bit systems/browsers, they got Hulu to work. However, I never was happy with the performance of the wrapped flash plugin. It was worse than the 64-bit Alpha. Maybe, I'll just install 32-bit Firefox and use it for those times I need it now that I know the problem is not exclusively a 64-bit OS problem. I already have a few 32-bit apps on my system. So, another one isn't going to bother me. (I'm not a 64-bit only fanatic.) Just use huludesktop. It will work fine with the 64-bit plugin. They provide a 64-bit RPM on hulu.com. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
