Re: plymouth-quit-wait taking too long

2021-06-24 Thread Christopher Ross



On 24/06/2021 14:05, Jonathan Billings wrote:

On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 01:34:27PM +0100, Christopher Ross wrote:

I should have mentioned that I'm running KDE not Gnome, but at this stage it
hasn't run. The 3½ minutes is the time it takes from power on to bring up
the GDM login screen.

I can't remember the exact message from abrtd. I good follow up question is
probably how can I get more information about the oopses?

Looking in /var/spool/abrt/oops-2021-06-24-09:48:20-3565-0/dmesg

It does seem the first oops was nvidia

...
[   14.920735] intel_rapl_common: RAPL package-0 domain package
locked by BIOS
[   14.956559] pktcdvd: pktcdvd0: writer mapped to sr0
[   15.073374] zram0: detected capacity change from 0 to 16777216
[   15.095100] Adding 8388604k swap on /dev/zram0.  Priority:100
extents:1 across:8388604k SSFS
[   15.374420] [drm] Initialized nvidia-drm 0.0.0 20160202 for
:01:00.0 on minor 1
[   15.684579] nvidia-gpu :01:00.3: i2c timeout error e000
[   15.684583] ucsi_ccg 8-0008: i2c_transfer failed -110
[   15.684585] ucsi_ccg 8-0008: ucsi_ccg_init failed - -110
[   15.684590] ucsi_ccg: probe of 8-0008 failed with error -110
[   40.291071] watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#3 stuck for 26s!
[plymouthd:445]
[   40.291074] Modules linked in: intel_rapl_msr intel_rapl_common
at24 mei_hdcp iTCO_wdt intel_pmc_bxt iTCO_vendor_support ucsi_ccg
typec_ucsi typec pktcdvd x86_pkg_temp_thermal intel_powerclamp
coretemp kvm_intel kvm irqbypass rapl intel_cstate intel_uncore
raid0 eeepc_wmi asus_wmi sparse_keymap rfkill wmi_bmof pcspkr
snd_hda_codec_realtek snd_hda_codec_generic ledtrig_audio
nvidia_drm(POE) joydev snd_hda_codec_hdmi nvidia_modeset(POE)
snd_hda_intel i2c_i801 snd_intel_dspcfg i2c_smbus snd_intel_sdw_acpi
snd_usb_audio apple_mfi_fastcharge snd_hda_codec nvidia_uvm(POE)
snd_usbmidi_lib snd_hda_core snd_rawmidi mc snd_hwdep snd_seq
snd_seq_device lpc_ich snd_pcm nvidia(POE) mei_me snd_timer snd mei
i2c_nvidia_gpu soundcore nfsd auth_rpcgss nfs_acl lockd grace
binfmt_misc sunrpc nfs_ssc zram ip_tables i915 crct10dif_pclmul
crc32_pclmul crc32c_intel cdc_mbim cdc_wdm e1000e mxm_wmi
i2c_algo_bit ghash_clmulni_intel drm_kms_helper cec cdc_ncm
cdc_ether drm usbnet mii wmi video fuse
[   40.291104] CPU: 3 PID: 445 Comm: plymouthd Tainted: P
OE 5.12.11-300.fc34.x86_64 #1
[   40.291106] Hardware name: System manufacturer System Product
Name/MAXIMUS V FORMULA, BIOS 1903 08/19/2013
[   40.291107] RIP: 0010:os_io_read_dword+0x8/0x10 [nvidia]
[   40.291311] Code: 00 00 0f 1f 44 00 00 89 fa ec c3 0f 1f 80 00 00
00 00 0f 1f 44 00 00 89 fa 66 ed c3 66 0f 1f 44 00 00 0f 1f 44 00 00
89 fa ed  0f 1f 80 00 00 00 00 0f 1f 44 00 00 48 85 ff 75 0c 48
8b 05 c7
[   40.291312] RSP: 0018:aeb9c05cf7d8 EFLAGS: 0202
[   40.291313] RAX: 03763580 RBX: 17d3 RCX:
000c
[   40.291314] RDX: e00c RSI: 000c40e4 RDI:
e00c
[   40.291314] RBP: 8c7220e12b10 R08: c2aa5380 R09:
0282
[   40.291315] R10: 0202 R11: 0040 R12:
8c7220e12b3c
[   40.291316] R13: 8c7220e12b38 R14: c000 R15:
c000
[   40.291316] FS:  7f27013a4800() GS:8c790fec()
knlGS:
[   40.291317] CS:  0010 DS:  ES:  CR0: 80050033
[   40.291318] CR2: 7ffca2940078 CR3: 00010a834001 CR4:
001706e0
[   40.291319] Call Trace:
[   40.291321]  _nv041000rm+0x4c/0x70 [nvidia]
[   40.291545]  ? _nv040998rm+0x30/0x30 [nvidia]
[   40.291768]  ? _nv000834rm+0x4f/0x130 [nvidia]

I agree, it looks like a nvidia-related issue.  What kernel arguments
do you have (look at /proc/cmdline or edit the GRUB entry when you're
booting).  Also, it looks like the nvidia modeset driver was running,
which might be having problems with plymouth?

You could try booting without the 'rhgb quiet' arguments in the kernel
line in GRUB, so you can see if disabling plymouth helps, and it will
show you what is actually happening during boot.

I was under the impression that GDM + KDE didn't work well, maybe try
using a KDE-friendly login manager like sddm?



I only recently changed from sddm to gdm because the "switch user" 
functionality has been removed from sddm in Fedora 34. We do share this 
computer.


That change didn't fix the boot issue either.

Regards,
Chris R.
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Re: plymouth-quit-wait taking too long

2021-06-24 Thread Christopher Ross



On 24/06/2021 13:11, Jonathan Billings wrote:

On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 12:15:48PM +0100, Christopher Ross wrote:

Fedora 34 on my i7 with 32G RAM and nvidia RTX2060 card takes minutes to
boot, and when it finally does there are a number of "something went wrong"
notifications. How best can I diagnose and fix this so that it boots quickly
and without errors?

Do you have the RPMFusion nvidia packages installed?  Are you using
any 3rd-party nvidia drivers?  Or are you using the nouveau driver?


Yes, RPMFusion is enabled and nvidia drivers installed.

The nvidia driver might be compiling on boot (dkms) which takes a long
time, and if it fails, will cause GL issues that can break 'nautilus',
and if 'nautilus' crashes, the GNOME session will do the 'Something
went wrong' alert.


It happens every boot, not just when there is a kernel or driver update. 
In that instance it should not need to recompile.


I should have mentioned that I'm running KDE not Gnome, but at this 
stage it hasn't run. The 3½ minutes is the time it takes from power on 
to bring up the GDM login screen.


I can't remember the exact message from abrtd. I good follow up question 
is probably how can I get more information about the oopses?


Looking in /var/spool/abrt/oops-2021-06-24-09:48:20-3565-0/dmesg

It does seem the first oops was nvidia

   ...
   [   14.920735] intel_rapl_common: RAPL package-0 domain package
   locked by BIOS
   [   14.956559] pktcdvd: pktcdvd0: writer mapped to sr0
   [   15.073374] zram0: detected capacity change from 0 to 16777216
   [   15.095100] Adding 8388604k swap on /dev/zram0.  Priority:100
   extents:1 across:8388604k SSFS
   [   15.374420] [drm] Initialized nvidia-drm 0.0.0 20160202 for
   :01:00.0 on minor 1
   [   15.684579] nvidia-gpu :01:00.3: i2c timeout error e000
   [   15.684583] ucsi_ccg 8-0008: i2c_transfer failed -110
   [   15.684585] ucsi_ccg 8-0008: ucsi_ccg_init failed - -110
   [   15.684590] ucsi_ccg: probe of 8-0008 failed with error -110
   [   40.291071] watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#3 stuck for 26s!
   [plymouthd:445]
   [   40.291074] Modules linked in: intel_rapl_msr intel_rapl_common
   at24 mei_hdcp iTCO_wdt intel_pmc_bxt iTCO_vendor_support ucsi_ccg
   typec_ucsi typec pktcdvd x86_pkg_temp_thermal intel_powerclamp
   coretemp kvm_intel kvm irqbypass rapl intel_cstate intel_uncore
   raid0 eeepc_wmi asus_wmi sparse_keymap rfkill wmi_bmof pcspkr
   snd_hda_codec_realtek snd_hda_codec_generic ledtrig_audio
   nvidia_drm(POE) joydev snd_hda_codec_hdmi nvidia_modeset(POE)
   snd_hda_intel i2c_i801 snd_intel_dspcfg i2c_smbus snd_intel_sdw_acpi
   snd_usb_audio apple_mfi_fastcharge snd_hda_codec nvidia_uvm(POE)
   snd_usbmidi_lib snd_hda_core snd_rawmidi mc snd_hwdep snd_seq
   snd_seq_device lpc_ich snd_pcm nvidia(POE) mei_me snd_timer snd mei
   i2c_nvidia_gpu soundcore nfsd auth_rpcgss nfs_acl lockd grace
   binfmt_misc sunrpc nfs_ssc zram ip_tables i915 crct10dif_pclmul
   crc32_pclmul crc32c_intel cdc_mbim cdc_wdm e1000e mxm_wmi
   i2c_algo_bit ghash_clmulni_intel drm_kms_helper cec cdc_ncm
   cdc_ether drm usbnet mii wmi video fuse
   [   40.291104] CPU: 3 PID: 445 Comm: plymouthd Tainted: P  
   OE 5.12.11-300.fc34.x86_64 #1
   [   40.291106] Hardware name: System manufacturer System Product
   Name/MAXIMUS V FORMULA, BIOS 1903 08/19/2013
   [   40.291107] RIP: 0010:os_io_read_dword+0x8/0x10 [nvidia]
   [   40.291311] Code: 00 00 0f 1f 44 00 00 89 fa ec c3 0f 1f 80 00 00
   00 00 0f 1f 44 00 00 89 fa 66 ed c3 66 0f 1f 44 00 00 0f 1f 44 00 00
   89 fa ed  0f 1f 80 00 00 00 00 0f 1f 44 00 00 48 85 ff 75 0c 48
   8b 05 c7
   [   40.291312] RSP: 0018:aeb9c05cf7d8 EFLAGS: 0202
   [   40.291313] RAX: 03763580 RBX: 17d3 RCX:
   000c
   [   40.291314] RDX: e00c RSI: 000c40e4 RDI:
   e00c
   [   40.291314] RBP: 8c7220e12b10 R08: c2aa5380 R09:
   0282
   [   40.291315] R10: 0202 R11: 0040 R12:
   8c7220e12b3c
   [   40.291316] R13: 8c7220e12b38 R14: c000 R15:
   c000
   [   40.291316] FS:  7f27013a4800() GS:8c790fec()
   knlGS:
   [   40.291317] CS:  0010 DS:  ES:  CR0: 80050033
   [   40.291318] CR2: 7ffca2940078 CR3: 00010a834001 CR4:
   001706e0
   [   40.291319] Call Trace:
   [   40.291321]  _nv041000rm+0x4c/0x70 [nvidia]
   [   40.291545]  ? _nv040998rm+0x30/0x30 [nvidia]
   [   40.291768]  ? _nv000834rm+0x4f/0x130 [nvidia]
   ...








The top part of systemd-analyze-blame is

1min 23.232s plymouth-quit-wait.service
  53.077s cs-firewall-bouncer.service
  52.219s dovecot.service
  26.525s crowdsec.service

It appears you're using some sort of 3rd-party firewall driver called
'crowdsec'.  Is that the problem?  It does seem to

Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-24 Thread Christopher Ross



On 24/06/2021 12:20, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Thu, 2021-06-24 at 11:42 +0100, Christopher Ross wrote:


How can I go about diagnosing and fixing that?
In 2021 i7 machines should not be taking literally minutes to boot.
On my system (also an i7) that takes only 5s. Presumably something is
holding it up. Try running 'systemd-analyze plot > trace.svg' followed
by 'eog trace.svg' and look at the resulting chart.



I have started a new thread, per Ed and George's suggestions.

Regards,
Chris R.

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plymouth-quit-wait taking too long

2021-06-24 Thread Christopher Ross


Dear fellow Fedorans,

Fedora 34 on my i7 with 32G RAM and nvidia RTX2060 card takes minutes to 
boot, and when it finally does there are a number of "something went 
wrong" notifications. How best can I diagnose and fix this so that it 
boots quickly and without errors?


CPU: Quad Core Intel Core i7-3770K (-MT MCP-) speed/min/max: 
4324/1600/4400 MHz Kernel: 5.12.11-300.fc34.x86_64 x86_64
Up: 2h 30m Mem: 8717.9/31785.3 MiB (27.4%) Storage: 25.69 TiB (59.7% 
used) Procs: 391 Shell: Bash inxi: 3.3.03



The top part of systemd-analyze-blame is

   1min 23.232s plymouth-quit-wait.service
 53.077s cs-firewall-bouncer.service
 52.219s dovecot.service
 26.525s crowdsec.service
 26.075s libvirtd.service
 25.910s postfix.service
 25.888s vmware.service
 25.870s nfs-server.service
  8.275s network.service
  4.279s abrtd.service
  4.111s smartd.service
  1.921s systemd-udev-settle.service
  1.355s lvm2-monitor.service
  1.309s user@1006.service
  1.188s
   
systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2duuid-d91d02e3\x2dce79\x2d4aa8\x2d9446\x2df531c05ca7a7.service
  1.145s udisks2.service
   711ms akmods.service
   602ms initrd-switch-root.service



Many thanks,
Chris R.


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Re: Long wait for start job

2021-06-24 Thread Christopher Ross



On 12/06/2021 20:45, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 6/12/21 11:54 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

Not my case. I don't have systemd-udev-settle.service. This is a fresh
install of F34.


Ok, you can still use systemd-analyze blame to find out what's causing 
the delay.


On my F34 boot systemd-udev-settle.service takes only 1.921s but the 
real biggie is


    1min 23.232s plymouth-quit-wait.service


How can I go about diagnosing and fixing that?
In 2021 i7 machines should not be taking literally minutes to boot.

Thanks,
Chris R.

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Re: Lutris Currently Uninstallable in F32

2020-12-21 Thread Christopher Ross



On 03/12/2020 11:23, Grumpey wrote:

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 5:38 AM Christopher Ross  wrote:

For days I have been getting the error "nothing provides
python3.8dist(python-magic)" when attempting a DNF update, and from
googling it seems I'm not alone in that. I have now uninstalled lutris
(the culprit) so that the update can proceed. Where should I look for
news on when this might be fixed?

Looks like it's already in testing,
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2020-b43dc41a97



It's still not made it to stable in F32...
root@snoopy 08:41:06 ~ # dnf install lutris
Last metadata expiration check: 0:00:17 ago on Mon 21 Dec 2020 08:41:03 GMT.
Error:
 Problem: cannot install the best candidate for the job
  - nothing provides python3.8dist(python-magic) needed by 
lutris-0.5.8-1.fc32.x86_64
(try to add '--skip-broken' to skip uninstallable packages or '--nobest' 
to use not only best candidate packages)





What could I do to help? I am happy to volunteer some time but I don't 
know who or how.


Thanks,
Chris R.
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Lutris Currently Uninstallable

2020-12-03 Thread Christopher Ross


For days I have been getting the error "nothing provides 
python3.8dist(python-magic)" when attempting a DNF update, and from 
googling it seems I'm not alone in that. I have now uninstalled lutris 
(the culprit) so that the update can proceed. Where should I look for 
news on when this might be fixed?


root@snoopy 10:30:04 ~ # dnf install lutris
Last metadata expiration check: 3:53:50 ago on Thu 03 Dec 2020 06:37:59 GMT.
Error:
 Problem: cannot install the best candidate for the job
  - nothing provides python3.8dist(python-magic) needed by 
lutris-0.5.8-1.fc32.x86_64
(try to add '--skip-broken' to skip uninstallable packages or '--nobest' 
to use not only best candidate packages)



Many thanks,
Chris R.
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Re: F32->F33: Upgrade or reinstall?

2020-11-03 Thread Christopher Ross



On 03/11/2020 07:13, Chris Murphy wrote:

On Mon, Nov 2, 2020 at 5:45 AM Patrick O'Callaghan
  wrote:

I'd normally upgrade, but my /dev/sda uses LVM to handle root, /home
etc. and from what I read this cannot be converted directly to BTRFS,
which I'm interested in using.

ext4 can be converted to Btrfs but I can't strongly recommend it
because you're not going to get the same layout as a default
installation. The conversion won't remove LVM, and it won't add the
subvolume layout we're using where "home" and "root" subvolumes are
assigned to /home and / mountpoints respectively.


What would be the best way to approach this?:

[snip]

2) Do a complete system install and then restore from backups.

I'm guessing that (2) is the simplest answer, but I'd appreciate any
comments, especially from people who have actually done either of
these.

Top choice:
Backup /home. Optionally /etc. And hand it over to the installer for
complete wipe and clean install. From scratch setup. And after going
through initial setup, restore /home (specifically restore the
contents of ~/ for each user). Probably the most straightforward.



Is this the best advice for complicated setups too? My main computer has 
been upgraded again and again since about Fedora 18, with parts being 
changed out as and when. When new disks are added the old ones remain 
until they die; where I have multiple disks of the same size I RAID them 
for performance. My current disk setup looks like this:


root@snoopy 09:22:35 ~ # lsblk --merge
  NAME   MAJ:MIN RM   SIZE RO TYPE  MOUNTPOINT
  sda  8:0    0 111.8G  0 disk
  ├─sda1   8:1    0   500M  0 part  /boot
  ┌┈▶ └─sda2   8:2    0 111.3G  0 part
  ┆   sdb  8:16   0 111.8G  0 disk
  ┆   ├─sdb1   8:17   0    64G  0 part  [SWAP]
  └┬▶ └─sdb2   8:18   0  47.8G  0 part
   └┈┈fedora_snoopy-root 253:0    0 159.1G  0 lvm   /
  sdc  8:32   1  14.6T  0 disk
  └─sdc1   8:33   1  14.6T  0 part  /backup
  sdd  8:48   0 931.5G  0 disk
  ┌┈▶ └─sdd1   8:49   0 931.5G  0 part
  ┆   sde  8:64   0 931.5G  0 disk
  ├┈▶ └─sde1   8:65   0 931.5G  0 part
  ┆   sdf  8:80   1   3.7T  0 disk
   ┌┈▶┆   └─sdf1   8:81   1   3.7T  0 part
   ┆  ┆   sdg  8:96   1   3.7T  0 disk
   └┬▶┆   └─sdg1   8:97   1   3.7T  0 part
┌┈▶ └┈┆┈┈┈md1  9:1    0   7.3T  0 raid0
┆ ┆   sdh  8:112  0 931.5G  0 disk
┆ ├┈▶ └─sdh1   8:113  0 931.5G  0 part
┆ ┆   sdi  8:128  0 931.5G  0 disk
┆ └┬▶ └─sdi1   8:129  0 931.5G  0 part
└┬▶    └┈┈md0  9:0    0   3.7T  0 raid0
 └vg_home-lv_home    253:1    0  10.9T  0 lvm   /home
  sr0 11:0    1 496.7M  0 rom

If I do a clean install of Fedora 33 onto this will it cope? I am hoping 
that BTRFS / Anaconda will spot all those disks and make optimal use of 
them, better even than my manual arrangement. Is that a fair assumption, 
or would I be better just upgrading F32 -> F33 as previously?


Many thanks,
Chris R.
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SOLVED Re: F30 last two updates won't boot, kernel 5.3 can't mount RAID0

2019-10-19 Thread Christopher Ross



OK, after more searching the 'net I have found the answer. It seems 
RAID0 was unintentionally broken since kernel 5.3.1, but there is a 
workaround



On 19/10/2019 08:42, Christopher Ross wrote:


There have been two kernel updates this past week:
kernel-core-5.3.5-200.fc30.x86_64
kernel-core-5.3.6-200.fc30.x86_64

Neither of these will boot for me. I get so far as the Fedora splash 
screen in graphics mode but never the login screen.


Oct 19 07:24:38 snoopy.tebibyte.org systemd[1]: local-fs.target: 
Triggering OnFailure= dependencies.
Oct 19 07:24:38 snoopy.tebibyte.org systemd[1]: local-fs.target: Job 
local-fs.target/start failed with result 'dependency'.
Oct 19 07:24:38 snoopy.tebibyte.org systemd[1]: Dependency failed for 
Local File Systems.

...

Under the last kernel that does boot 
(kernel-core-5.2.18-200.fc30.x86_64), the device it is references 
looks like this :
lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 9 Oct 19 07:30 
"/dev/disk/by-uuid/a1aaca46-f02d-4407-90ab-1067eecea53d" -> "../../md0"


Where md0 is a RAID0 of 4 x 1TiB discs.




Thanks to a not dissimilar query on the ArchLinux lists:

(https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1868823#p1868823)
It's a bug, recently discovered, that caused the raid0 layout to 
change unintentionally a while back, so now they're in a pickle... 
they have two layouts and the metadata doesn't say which is correct.


If they fix the unintentional change, they corrupt all raid0 using the 
unintended new layout; if they don't fix it, they corrupt all raid0 
using the old layout. Both choices are wrong so they decided instead 
to make it "stop working entirely" until the sysadmin decides how they 
want to corrupt their raid0.


so you have to add a kernel paramter: raid0.default_layout=1 for new 
or =2 for old 3.x kernel raid0s





Regards,
Chris R.



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F30 last two updates won't boot, kernel 5.3 can't mount RAID0

2019-10-19 Thread Christopher Ross


There have been two kernel updates this past week:
kernel-core-5.3.5-200.fc30.x86_64
kernel-core-5.3.6-200.fc30.x86_64

Neither of these will boot for me. I get so far as the Fedora splash 
screen in graphics mode but never the login screen.


I've been trying to debug this, and so far the biggest clue I have from 
the system log is the following:



Oct 19 07:24:38 snoopy.tebibyte.org systemd[1]: local-fs.target: 
Triggering OnFailure= dependencies.
Oct 19 07:24:38 snoopy.tebibyte.org systemd[1]: local-fs.target: Job 
local-fs.target/start failed with result 'dependency'.
Oct 19 07:24:38 snoopy.tebibyte.org systemd[1]: Dependency failed for 
Local File Systems.

Oct 19 07:24:38 snoopy.tebibyte.org systemd[1]: Dependency failed for /home.
Oct 19 07:24:38 snoopy.tebibyte.org systemd[1]: Dependency failed for 
File System Check on /dev/disk/by-uuid/a1aaca46-f02d-4407-90ab-1067eecea53d.
Oct 19 07:24:38 snoopy.tebibyte.org systemd[1]: Timed out waiting for 
device /dev/disk/by-uuid/a1aaca46-f02d-4407-90ab-1067eecea53d.
Oct 19 07:24:38 snoopy.tebibyte.org systemd[1]: 
dev-disk-by\x2duuid-a1aaca46\x2df02d\x2d4407\x2d90ab\x2d1067eecea53d.device: 
Job dev-disk-by\x2duuid-a1aaca46\x2df02d\x2d4407\x2d90ab\x2d1067e

ecea53d.device/start timed out.
Oct 19 07:23:35 snoopy.tebibyte.org systemd[1]: Mounted /boot.
Oct 19 07:23:35 snoopy.tebibyte.org kernel: EXT4-fs (sda1): mounted 
filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null)

Oct 19 07:23:35 snoopy.tebibyte.org systemd[1]: Mounting /boot...

Followed by a bunch of errors not unexpected given that one.

Under the last kernel that does boot 
(kernel-core-5.2.18-200.fc30.x86_64), the device it is references looks 
like this :
lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 9 Oct 19 07:30 
"/dev/disk/by-uuid/a1aaca46-f02d-4407-90ab-1067eecea53d" -> "../../md0"


Where md0 is a RAID0 of 4 x 1TiB discs.

Q1 then, is how do I tell DNF not to delete the 5.2.18-200 kernel as it 
is the only one that currently works?
Q2 is what's up with 5.3 kernels and software raid, and what do I need 
to change to get it working again?


Many thanks for any and all help!

Regards,
Chris R.


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Re: fedora 30 kdm busted?

2019-05-03 Thread Christopher Ross



On 03/05/2019 14:36, Tom Horsley wrote:
I tried switching from gdm to kdm and the kdm "login" came up as 
nothing but an apparent password entry field in the top left corner of 
the screen (at least all it did was echo dots when I typed in it). 
Switched to xdm, and that works much better. 


I had exactly he same symptoms with kdm so switched to sddm. That works 
fine for me.


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Re: fedora-upgrade fails with error: unrecognized arguments: --distro-sync

2017-11-16 Thread Christopher Ross

On 16/11/17 14:24, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 11/16/17 22:04, Christopher Ross wrote:



On 16/11/17 12:59, Christopher Ross wrote:

Today I tried upgrading my x86 laptop from Fedora 26 to 27 but it failed with 
the
following...



For info, trying again consistently yields the same results.



Well, the description of the fedora-upgrade package says...

Description  : Upgrade Fedora to next version using dnf upgrade.
  : This is attempt to automatize steps as listed here:
  : 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_package_manager
  :
  : This is an unofficial tool, for official Fedora-supported
  : upgrades please see:
  : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading


So, it seems like a work in progress.

How about just doing the "approved" method found at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DNF_system_upgrade


I get a different error with that!

root@nellie 14:43:37 ~ # dnf system-upgrade download --refresh 
--releasever=27
Before you continue ensure that your system is fully upgraded by running 
"dnf --refresh upgrade". Do you want to continue [y/N]: Y
Adobe Systems Incorporated 
   19 kB/s | 1.9 kB 00:00
negativo17 - Spotify 
   91 kB/s |  15 kB 00:00
Fedora 27 - i386 - Updates 
  4.8 MB/s | 7.9 MB 00:01
Fedora 27 - i386 
  3.3 MB/s |  53 MB 00:16
RPM Fusion for Fedora 27 - Free - Updates 
  284 kB/s |  38 kB 00:00
RPM Fusion for Fedora 27 - Free 
  2.2 MB/s | 614 kB 00:00
RPM Fusion for Fedora 27 - Nonfree - Updates 
  208  B/s | 1.1 kB 00:05
RPM Fusion for Fedora 27 - Nonfree 
  947 kB/s | 151 kB 00:00

Last metadata expiration check: 0:00:00 ago on Thu 16 Nov 2017 14:47:16 GMT.
Error:
 Problem: package grub2-efi-1:2.02-0.40.fc26.i686 requires grub2-tools 
= 1:2.02-0.40.fc26, but none of the providers can be installed
  - grub2-tools-1:2.02-0.40.fc26.i686 does not belong to a distupgrade 
repository

  - problem with installed package grub2-efi-1:2.02-0.40.fc26.i686
root@nellie 14:47:37 ~ #


Regards,
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Re: fedora-upgrade fails with error: unrecognized arguments: --distro-sync

2017-11-16 Thread Christopher Ross



On 16/11/17 12:59, Christopher Ross wrote:
Today I tried upgrading my x86 laptop from Fedora 26 to 27 but it failed 
with the following...



For info, trying again consistently yields the same results.


root@nellie 13:43:45 ~ # fedora-upgrade
Going to upgrade your Fedora to version 27.
You may want to read Release Notes:
  http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/
Hit Enter to continue or Ctrl + C to cancel.

Going to run 'dnf upgrade' before upgrading.
This step is highly recommended, but can be safely skipped.
Hit Enter to continue, Ctrl + C to cancel or S + Enter to skip.
Last metadata expiration check: 0:56:43 ago on Thu 16 Nov 2017 12:47:22 GMT.
Dependencies resolved.
Nothing to do.
Complete!

Going to resolve old .rpmsave and .rpmnew files before upgrading.
This step is highly recommended, but can be safely skipped.
Hit Enter to continue, Ctrl + C to cancel or S + Enter to skip. S
Choose upgrade method
  * offline - this use dnf-plugin-system-upgrade plugin and requires 
two reboots

- this is official upgrade method
  * online  - this use distro-sync and require only one reboot
- this is not offically tested by FedoraQA
For more information see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading

What is your choice? (offline/online)  offline
usage: dnf system-upgrade [-c [config file]] [-q] [-v] [--version]
  [--installroot [path]] [--nodocs] [--noplugins]
  [--enableplugin [plugin]] [--disableplugin 
[plugin]]

  [--releasever RELEASEVER] [--setopt SETOPTS]
  [--skip-broken] [-h] [--allowerasing] [-b] [-C]
  [-R [minutes]] [-d [debug level]] [--debugsolver]
  [--showduplicates] [-e ERRORLEVEL] [--obsoletes]
  [--rpmverbosity [debug level name]] [-y]
  [--assumeno] [--enablerepo [repo]]
  [--disablerepo [repo] | --repo [repo]]
  [-x [package]] [--disableexcludes [repo]]
  [--repofrompath [repo,path]] [--noautoremove]
  [--nogpgcheck] [--color COLOR] [--refresh] 
[-4] [-6]

  [--destdir DESTDIR] [--downloadonly]
  [--comment COMMENT] [--bugfix] [--enhancement]
  [--newpackage] [--security] [--advisory ADVISORY]
  [--bzs BUGZILLA] [--cves CVES]
  [--sec-severity 
{Critical,Important,Moderate,Low}]

  [--forcearch ARCH] [--no-downgrade]
  [--number NUMBER]
  [download|clean|reboot|upgrade|log]
dnf system-upgrade: error: unrecognized arguments: --distro-sync
root@nellie 13:59:51 ~ #

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fedora-upgrade fails with

2017-11-16 Thread Christopher Ross



Today I tried upgrading my x86 laptop from Fedora 26 to 27 but it failed 
with the following...




root@nellie 12:33:40 ~ # fedora-upgrade
Going to upgrade your Fedora to version 27.
You may want to read Release Notes:
  http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/
Hit Enter to continue or Ctrl + C to cancel.

Going to run 'dnf upgrade' before upgrading.
This step is highly recommended, but can be safely skipped.
Hit Enter to continue, Ctrl + C to cancel or S + Enter to skip.
Last metadata expiration check: 4:47:19 ago on Thu 16 Nov 2017 07:48:49 GMT.
Dependencies resolved.
Nothing to do.
Complete!

Going to resolve old .rpmsave and .rpmnew files before upgrading.

[... snip ...]

Choose upgrade method
  * offline - this use dnf-plugin-system-upgrade plugin and requires 
two reboots

    - this is official upgrade method
  * online  - this use distro-sync and require only one reboot
    - this is not offically tested by FedoraQA
For more information see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading

What is your choice? (offline/online)  offline
usage: dnf system-upgrade [-c [config file]] [-q] [-v] [--version]
  [--installroot [path]] [--nodocs] [--noplugins]
  [--enableplugin [plugin]] [--disableplugin 
[plugin]]

  [--releasever RELEASEVER] [--setopt SETOPTS]
  [--skip-broken] [-h] [--allowerasing] [-b] [-C]
  [-R [minutes]] [-d [debug level]] [--debugsolver]
  [--showduplicates] [-e ERRORLEVEL] [--obsoletes]
  [--rpmverbosity [debug level name]] [-y]
  [--assumeno] [--enablerepo [repo]]
  [--disablerepo [repo] | --repo [repo]]
  [-x [package]] [--disableexcludes [repo]]
  [--repofrompath [repo,path]] [--noautoremove]
  [--nogpgcheck] [--color COLOR] [--refresh] 
[-4] [-6]

  [--destdir DESTDIR] [--downloadonly]
  [--comment COMMENT] [--bugfix] [--enhancement]
  [--newpackage] [--security] [--advisory ADVISORY]
  [--bzs BUGZILLA] [--cves CVES]
  [--sec-severity 
{Critical,Important,Moderate,Low}]

  [--forcearch ARCH] [--no-downgrade]
  [--number NUMBER]
  [download|clean|reboot|upgrade|log]
dnf system-upgrade: error: unrecognized arguments: --distro-sync

root@nellie 12:47:42 ~ # alias dnf
-bash: alias: dnf: not found




So what gives? Is "fedora-upgrade" no longer a supported method?

Many thanks,
Chris R.

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Re: End of i686 Support

2017-09-07 Thread Christopher Ross

On 06/09/17 12:41, Tim wrote:

Robin Laing
And, is it still feasible to run the OS on old hardware?  On my older
32-bit PCs, the notion of running Gnome or KDE is impossible.  They're
too slow for being fancy with the graphics card.  And, some can't even
run a modern distro, because they can only take 1 gig of RAM.  The
minimum specs for running Fedora have crept up and up over the years.


How old? F26/KDE runs without issues on my "Designed for Windows XP" 
Dell Inspiron 1300, with a 1.5GHz Celeron-M and 2GB of RAM. Albeit as 
slowly as you would expect, though that seems to be mostly due to being 
single core and spinny rust. I have thought about upgrading to an SSD 
but haven't done so yet. It would cost at least as much as the laptop is 
worth!


So, for XP qualified machines, from experience yes you can repurpose 
them to run Fedora w. KDE. There are likely to be many of those about 
now that XP is discontinued and they won't run modern Windows.


Regards,
Chris R.
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Re: End of i686 Support

2017-09-05 Thread Christopher Ross

On 04/09/17 04:07, Robin Laing wrote:

On 03/09/17 09:53, Jeff Backus wrote:
As you may or may not be aware, there is an active discussion on the 
development side as to whether or not we continue to support the x86 
architecture.

...


Is x86 support still important to you? If so, then come join us! We 
need all of the help we can get. Not a developer? No problem! We still 
need people with hardware to help us evaluate software.


Thanks for the heads up; I have just joined the x86 list on your prompting.

For my part I have a lovely, powerful, 64-bit desktop/gaming machine but 
my laptop is an old 32-bit Celeron M with 2G RAM. The latter is mainly 
used for email (this was sent from it) and it is plenty powerful enough 
for everything I use it for. There's no gain in spending money to 
upgrade it so any such spare funds would go to improving the desktop 
machine. A new graphics card perhaps. Nevertheless I greatly value being 
able to run the same distribution (currently F26) on both. If I need to 
change the distribution on the laptop to say, Ubuntu, I'd probably end 
up changing the desktop over too.


I do realise this is of little consequence to the Fedora project, but as 
you asked I thought I'd throw in my 2¢ worth.



Regards,
Chris R.
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Re: Delta RPMs -

2017-08-24 Thread Christopher Ross

On 24/08/17 13:48, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:


The man page for dnf says: "Allow erasing of installed packages to
resolve dependencies" (which is actually not as clear as it might be -
would removing every package on the system resolve dependencies?).

However that is consistent with what it did in your case. It removed FF
because it couldn't update nspr, not "Because dnf wasn't able to update
Firefox to the best version it removed it instead", which is the phrase
I was reacting to.


I disagree. It could not install the updated Firefox because it depends 
on a version of nspr that has not been released yet. Removing the 
currently installed Firefox did not resolve any dependencies at all. At 
best, that would imply that it needed to uninstall Firefox because it 
was blocking the update of something else, which so far as I can tell is 
not the case.


Or, if that is the case, which packages in the current update DO depend 
on the newest version of Firefox, which in turn depends on a package 
that hasn't been released yet? Surely under your interpretation they 
would have been removed too?


Regards,
Chris R.
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Re: Delta RPMs -

2017-08-24 Thread Christopher Ross

On 24/08/17 10:59, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Thu, 2017-08-24 at 09:03 +0100, Christopher Ross wrote:

On 23/08/17 14:27, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 08/23/2017 08:40 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote:

# dnf upgrade
Last metadata expiration check: 0:00:00 ago on Wed Aug 23 04:43:05 2017.
Dependencies resolved.

   Problem: cannot install the best update candidate for package
firefox-55.0.1-1.fc26.x86_64
- nothing provides nspr >= 4.16.0 needed by firefox-55.0.2-1.fc26.x86_64



nspr is still in updates-testing.  If you want you can run "dnf --enablerepo
updates-testing update firefox"


Thank you! I have just done that. Because dnf wasn't able to update
Firefox to the best version it removed it instead! I assume this is a
result of the combination --best --allowerasing which I generally use.
I've never had it just remove things completely leaving no version
installed though :(


That doesn't look right. AFAIK "--allowerasing" will delete a package
that is blocking something else from updating, but not otherwise. It
shouldn't remove a package just because it can't get the latest
version.




Well that is exactly what happened. The command

dnf --refresh --best --allowerasing upgrade

Could not update Firefox because of the missing dependency (nspr) so it 
removed Firefox completely instead. This is not what I expected to 
happen. This is the command I generally use to update the system, pretty 
much daily.


Subsequently entering the command

dnf install firefox

installed firefox.x86_64 54.0-2.fc26, not the 55.0-1 that it removed.

I then followed Ed Greshko's advice (above) to enable the 
updates-testing repository to get the required dependency and that 
worked, so that I now have firefox.x86_64 55.0.2-1.fc26 installed.


Regards,
Chris R.
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Re: Delta RPMs -

2017-08-24 Thread Christopher Ross

On 23/08/17 14:27, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 08/23/2017 08:40 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote:

# dnf upgrade
Last metadata expiration check: 0:00:00 ago on Wed Aug 23 04:43:05 2017.
Dependencies resolved.

  Problem: cannot install the best update candidate for package
firefox-55.0.1-1.fc26.x86_64
   - nothing provides nspr >= 4.16.0 needed by firefox-55.0.2-1.fc26.x86_64



nspr is still in updates-testing.  If you want you can run "dnf --enablerepo
updates-testing update firefox"


Thank you! I have just done that. Because dnf wasn't able to update 
Firefox to the best version it removed it instead! I assume this is a 
result of the combination --best --allowerasing which I generally use. 
I've never had it just remove things completely leaving no version 
installed though :(


Regards,
Chris R.
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F23 rsnapshot log timestamps funny

2016-10-20 Thread Christopher Ross


Since yesterday's update of rsnapshot to
rsnapshot-1.4.2-1.fc23.noarch

The format of the date/time field in the rsnapshot.log has gone funny, 
as per the following examples...


[19/Oct/2016:11:53:42] /usr/bin/rsnapshot daily: completed successfully
[19/Oct/2016:12:04:15] /usr/bin/rsnapshot hourly: completed successfully
[2016-10-19T18:08:11] /usr/bin/rsnapshot hourly: completed successfully
[2016-10-20T00:07:09] /usr/bin/rsnapshot hourly: completed successfully
[2016-10-20T06:06:31] /usr/bin/rsnapshot hourly: completed successfully


Is anyone else seeing this? Is there an easy fix?

Many thanks,
Chris R.

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Re: Finding the date on which a Fedora 23 was installed on a given machine

2016-01-15 Thread Christopher Ross


On 14/01/16 17:43, Kevin Wilson wrote:

Is there a way to find out the date on which a Fedora distro was
installed on a given machine (assuming that the date was set correctly
on the machine when it was installed)?



# rpm -qi fedora-release

Name: fedora-release
Version : 22
Release : 1
Architecture: noarch
Install Date: Tue 26 May 2015 20:34:10 BST
Group   : System Environment/Base
Size: 4235
License : MIT
Signature   : RSA/SHA256, Tue 19 May 2015 19:08:23 BST, Key ID 
11adc0948e1431d5

Source RPM  : fedora-release-22-1.src.rpm
Build Date  : Tue 19 May 2015 15:27:10 BST
Build Host  : arm04-builder06.arm.fedoraproject.org
Relocations : (not relocatable)
Packager: Fedora Project
Vendor  : Fedora Project
URL : http://fedoraproject.org
Summary : Fedora release files
Description :
Fedora release files such as various /etc/ files that define the release.


Hope this helps,
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Re: How can I copy photos from Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge?

2015-11-06 Thread Christopher Ross


On 05/11/15 19:07, Rick Stevens wrote:

And getting a listing of what's mounted there:

 [rick@prophead ~]$ ls -l tstmnt
 total 0
 drwxrwxr-x. 2 rick rick 0 Dec 31  1969 Card
 drwxrwxr-x. 2 rick rick 0 Dec 31  1969 Phone

So, there's a "Card" directory (the SD card in my phone) and a "Phone"
directory (the internal phone storage). I LOVE the fact that the dates
shown are pre-Unix epoch! Cute, eh? (For reference, the Unix epoch
started at 00:00:00.00, January 1, 1970 UTC). I thought Android was
Linux based. :-)


The timestamp will be  (i.e. the Unix epoch) but it's assuming 
UTC whereas your timezone is -0800 hours or something, hence your 
display date is shows the day before.


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Re: updated f22->f23 using dnf system-upgrade, no significant issues

2015-11-04 Thread Christopher Ross

On 03/11/15 14:42, Neal Becker wrote:

A boring update



Not for me it wasn't!

root@nellie 10:27:06 ~ # dnf --best --allowerasing --refresh 
system-upgrade download --releasever=23
Fedora 23 - i386 
655 kB/s |  39 MB 01:01
PostInstallerF-updates 
2.7 kB/s | 3.4 kB 00:01
RPM Fusion for Fedora 23 - Free - Updates 
399 kB/s | 103 kB 00:00
RPM Fusion for Fedora 23 - Nonfree - Updates 
9.8 kB/s | 1.3 kB 00:00
RPM Fusion for Fedora 23 - Free 
1.0 MB/s | 408 kB 00:00
Adobe Systems Incorporated 
6.3 kB/s | 1.8 kB 00:00
PostInstallerF 
137 kB/s | 533 kB 00:03
Fedora 23 - i386 - Updates 
564 kB/s | 3.8 MB 00:06
RPM Fusion for Fedora 23 - Nonfree 
514 kB/s | 129 kB 00:00
Last metadata expiration check performed 0:00:00 ago on Wed Nov  4 
10:30:15 2015.
Error: package kf5-kdesu-5.15.0-2.fc23.i686 requires kf5-filesystem >= 
5.15.0, but none of the providers can be installed




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Re: Q about Environment files of systemd

2015-08-13 Thread Christopher Ross

On 13/08/15 11:17, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Thu, 2015-08-13 at 17:02 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 08/13/15 16:38, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

throws up a whole bunch of of hits which don't include the word
EnvironmentFile.


Oh, I think I parsed your statement wrong.  I should have read it as
"more than EnvironmentFile contains that syntax such as
ExecStartPre".

But that then results in a different question which can be answer in
the same manner which results in finding the same man page and the
following output

ExecStartPre=, ExecStartPost=
Additional commands that are executed before or after the
command in
ExecStart=, respectively. Syntax is the same as for
ExecStart=,
except that multiple command lines are allowed and the
commands are
executed one after the other, serially.

If any of those commands (not prefixed with "-") fail, the
rest are
not executed and the unit is considered failed.


You can argue that if you like, but my point is that on seeing the
examples the natural conclusion is that here is some new syntax I don't
know about, so let me look in the systemd docs for some explanation.
The fact that it's only documented in specific examples makes it much
harder to find. I don't expect the syntax of environment variable
assignments to be explained every time one of them shows up in a man
page.

poc



Well I found it, I just didn't quote that bit. So Ed was right.

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Re: Q about Environment files of systemd

2015-08-13 Thread Christopher Ross

On 13/08/15 08:52, Christopher Ross wrote:

On 13/08/15 01:42, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 08/13/15 08:01, Ed Greshko wrote:

Being that it was a very specific question the 2 words were easy to
divine.


And, if I had my coffee, I probably would have used "-K" and a single
word before resorting to google.  Recalling, again, this to have been
a very specific question with a very unique word.



I salute your google-fu! It is not at all obvious to me. The Question is
what is the EnviromentFile and what does "=-" mean within it...

root@snoopy 08:46:58 ~ # apropos "=-"
=-: nothing appropriate.

root@snoopy 08:47:06 ~ # apropos "EnvironmentFile"
EnvironmentFile: nothing appropriate.

root@snoopy 08:50:12 ~ # apropos systemd | wc -l
155



Continuing that search then...

root@snoopy 08:50:25 ~ # apropos systemd | grep environment
systemd-detect-virt (1) - Detect execution in a virtualized environment
systemd.exec (5) - Execution environment configuration

root@snoopy 08:53:31 ~ # man systemd.exec


...
   EnvironmentFile=
   Similar to Environment= but reads the environment variables 
from a text file. The text file should contain
   new-line-separated variable assignments. Empty lines and 
lines starting with ; or # will be ignored, which may be
   used for commenting. A line ending with a backslash will be 
concatenated with the following one, allowing multiline
   variable definitions. The parser strips leading and trailing 
whitespace from the values of assignments, unless you

   use double quotes (").



So that's part of the question answered. The above manpage also says 
"See environ(7) for details about environment variables."





root@snoopy 09:07:33 ~ # man 7 environ


Unfortunately that man page makes no reference to "=-" or similar


root@snoopy 09:13:06 ~ # man bash


Neither does the bash manpage. So if your glib statement "The answer you 
seek is in the man pages." is true I cannot find it.


My guess is that the OP example

/usr/lib/systemd/system/irda.service:EnvironmentFile=-/etc/sysconfig/irda
/usr/lib/systemd/system/sshd.service:EnvironmentFile=/etc/sysconfig/sshd

In effect means "don't use that, use this" but I haven't confirmed that 
from the man page.


Regards,
Chris R.

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Re: Q about Environment files of systemd

2015-08-13 Thread Christopher Ross

On 13/08/15 01:42, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 08/13/15 08:01, Ed Greshko wrote:

Being that it was a very specific question the 2 words were easy to divine.


And, if I had my coffee, I probably would have used "-K" and a single word 
before resorting to google.  Recalling, again, this to have been a very specific question 
with a very unique word.



I salute your google-fu! It is not at all obvious to me. The Question is 
what is the EnviromentFile and what does "=-" mean within it...


root@snoopy 08:46:58 ~ # apropos "=-"
=-: nothing appropriate.

root@snoopy 08:47:06 ~ # apropos "EnvironmentFile"
EnvironmentFile: nothing appropriate.

root@snoopy 08:50:12 ~ # apropos systemd | wc -l
155


Regards,
Chris R.

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Re: f21: several warnings from "chkrootkit".

2015-06-04 Thread Christopher Ross

On 03/06/15 22:06, William wrote:

warning, got bogus l2cap line.
warning, got bogus l2cap line.
warning, got bogus l2cap line.
warning, got bogus l2cap line.
warning, got bogus l2cap line.
warning, got bogus l2cap line.
warning, got bogus l2cap line.
warning, got bogus l2cap line.
warning, got bogus l2cap line.
warning, got bogus l2cap line.
warning, got bogus l2cap line.
warning, got bogus l2cap line.
warning, got bogus l2cap line.
warning, got bogus l2cap line.
warning, got bogus l2cap line.
warning, got bogus l2cap line.
warning, got bogus l2cap line.
warning, got bogus l2cap line.
warning, got bogus l2cap line.
warning, got bogus l2cap line.
warning, got bogus l2cap line.
warning, got bogus l2cap line.
warning, got bogus l2cap line.
warning, got bogus l2cap line.
warning, got bogus l2cap line.
warning, got bogus l2cap line.
warning, got bogus l2cap line.
warning, got bogus l2cap line.
warning, got bogus l2cap line.
warning, got bogus l2cap line.
warning, got bogus l2cap line.

[... snip ...]

I've not seen warnings from "chkrootkit" in a while now.  I realize that
these are just warnings.  Still, what's going on?  Is there something
that I should do?

thanks,
Bill.


FWIW, I've also been getting the "Warning, got bogus l2cap line" 
messages since presumably the same recent upgrade. I tried googling it 
but didn't learn anything useful.


Regards,
Chris R.

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Re: F22 KDE How To Remove "Software Updates" Widget? (Solved)

2015-06-01 Thread Christopher Ross

On 30/05/15 06:07, Rex Dieter wrote:

Christopher Ross wrote:


In the Fedora 22 / KDE 5 task bar there is a "Software Updates" widget.
Where is the setting to remove that? It's inappropriate for arbitrary
end users to be be updating the system software on shared machines.


Right click systray ^ =>
   system tray settings =>
 General section, under "Extra Items", uncheck "Software Updates"



Thanks, Rex. Yes, that's exactly what I wanted.

Regards,
Chris R.


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F22 KDE How To Remove "Software Updates" Widget?

2015-05-29 Thread Christopher Ross


In the Fedora 22 / KDE 5 task bar there is a "Software Updates" widget. 
Where is the setting to remove that? It's inappropriate for arbitrary 
end users to be be updating the system software on shared machines.


Many thanks,
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Re: F22 'who' reports 0 users

2015-05-29 Thread Christopher Ross

On 28/05/15 09:52, Christopher Ross wrote:

On 28/05/15 09:15, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 05/28/15 15:44, Christopher Ross wrote:

On 27/05/15 22:29, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 05/27/15 23:18, Christopher Ross wrote:


On the one machine I've updated to Fedora 22 (using fedora-upgrade)
so far I've noticed that uptime/who/w and friends report, wrongly,
that no-one is logged in. Is anyone else seeing this?


[... snip ...]


Are you using the KDE version of F22?


Yes. Although this is upgraded from F21 (using the target "nonproduct").


Yes, that is what you'll see.  Not a bug, a feature.  :-) :-)


How could that possibly be considered a feature?


That's some brokenness, this has worked properly since the '60s!
If this is to be the new normal, what is the proper way now to find out 
whether anyone is currently logged in and using the system? I have a 
number of scripts that rely on this.


A purely practical, real world example has just arisen. On my Fedora 21 
box a yum update has just pulled in a new kernel and nVidia drivers, 
which mean a reboot when convenient. Now is convenient for me, but 
typing "who" reveals that I am not alone, so I should schedule it for later.


Chris R.


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Re: F22 'who' reports 0 users

2015-05-28 Thread Christopher Ross

On 28/05/15 09:15, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 05/28/15 15:44, Christopher Ross wrote:

On 27/05/15 22:29, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 05/27/15 23:18, Christopher Ross wrote:


On the one machine I've updated to Fedora 22 (using fedora-upgrade) so far I've 
noticed that uptime/who/w and friends report, wrongly, that no-one is logged 
in. Is anyone else seeing this?

root@nellie 16:10:27 ~ # w
 16:10:28 up  8:04,  0 users,  load average: 0.21, 0.38, 0.45
USER TTYLOGIN@   IDLE   JCPU   PCPU WHAT
root@nellie 16:10:28 ~ # logout
chris@nellie 16:10:55 ~ $
chris@nellie 16:10:57 ~ $ who
chris@nellie 16:10:58 ~ $ w
 16:11:00 up  8:04,  0 users,  load average: 0.40, 0.40, 0.46
USER TTYLOGIN@   IDLE   JCPU   PCPU WHAT
chris@nellie 16:11:00 ~ $



Are you using the KDE version of F22?


Yes. Although this is upgraded from F21 (using the target "nonproduct").



Yes, that is what you'll see.  Not a bug, a feature.  :-) :-)




How could that possibly be considered a feature?


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Re: F22 'who' reports 0 users

2015-05-28 Thread Christopher Ross

On 27/05/15 22:29, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 05/27/15 23:18, Christopher Ross wrote:


On the one machine I've updated to Fedora 22 (using fedora-upgrade) so far I've 
noticed that uptime/who/w and friends report, wrongly, that no-one is logged 
in. Is anyone else seeing this?

   root@nellie 16:10:27 ~ # w
16:10:28 up  8:04,  0 users,  load average: 0.21, 0.38, 0.45
   USER TTYLOGIN@   IDLE   JCPU   PCPU WHAT
   root@nellie 16:10:28 ~ # logout
   chris@nellie 16:10:55 ~ $
   chris@nellie 16:10:57 ~ $ who
   chris@nellie 16:10:58 ~ $ w
16:11:00 up  8:04,  0 users,  load average: 0.40, 0.40, 0.46
   USER TTYLOGIN@   IDLE   JCPU   PCPU WHAT
   chris@nellie 16:11:00 ~ $



Are you using the KDE version of F22?


Yes. Although this is upgraded from F21 (using the target "nonproduct").

Chris R.


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F22 'who' reports 0 users

2015-05-27 Thread Christopher Ross


On the one machine I've updated to Fedora 22 (using fedora-upgrade) so 
far I've noticed that uptime/who/w and friends report, wrongly, that 
no-one is logged in. Is anyone else seeing this?


  root@nellie 16:10:27 ~ # w
   16:10:28 up  8:04,  0 users,  load average: 0.21, 0.38, 0.45
  USER TTYLOGIN@   IDLE   JCPU   PCPU WHAT
  root@nellie 16:10:28 ~ # logout
  chris@nellie 16:10:55 ~ $
  chris@nellie 16:10:57 ~ $ who
  chris@nellie 16:10:58 ~ $ w
   16:11:00 up  8:04,  0 users,  load average: 0.40, 0.40, 0.46
  USER TTYLOGIN@   IDLE   JCPU   PCPU WHAT
  chris@nellie 16:11:00 ~ $


Thanks,
Chris R.
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Re: Audio problems

2014-01-15 Thread Christopher Ross


This could be related to a regression I am seeing on Fedora 20. Pretty 
much every time a user logs in (or switch user) on Fedora 20 with KDE the 
audio output defaults to "headphones" and I have to manually change it to 
"line out", even though there is nothing connected to the headphones 
socket and there is an amplifier connected to the line out socket. If I do 
plug in headphones thereafter, the sound switches to headphones as it 
should. This used to work exactly as you would expect (i.e. defaulting to 
"line out" unless there are headphones plugged in) under Fedora 19 and 18 
before that on exactly the same hardware.


If anyone can point me to a solution I would be grateful.

Regards,
Chris R.


On Wed, 8 Jan 2014, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


Lenovo x120e

Builtin speakers work for a couple minutes after a boot, then typically stop 
working.  Sometimes may work for a bit longer, but always stop.


Headphones (you have to use a combo headphone/mic, like the one from your 
smartphone) works no problem.


The schematic from the manual shows the wires going into the jack component 
and from there to the speaker component.  The bios speaker mute button 
 can tell the difference if a headset is plugged in or not (mute 
headset/speaker); perhaps this is an impedence test.


Can this in anyway be a software issue?  I suppose I could tear into the 
unit.  I have a busted older unit; I cooked the processor board with a coke 
(tm) spill.  I doubt it got the sound subsystem.




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Why can't I find kmod-nvidia for 3.6.10

2012-12-20 Thread Christopher Ross


Hi All,


(Is there a separate rpmfusion list I should ask this on?)


On Sunday, 16th December, yum update brought in a new kernel package
kernel-3.6.10-2.fc17.x86_64

root@snoopy ~ # rpm -qa kernel
kernel-3.6.9-2.fc17.x86_64
kernel-3.6.8-2.fc17.x86_64
kernel-3.6.10-2.fc17.x86_64


To date (20th December) I can't reboot into it because there is no 
corresponding update for the nVidia driver:



root@snoopy ~ # yum update xorg-x11-drv-nvidia xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs.i686 
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs kmod-nvidia
Loaded plugins: langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit
No Packages marked for Update


A yum search confirms this (see below).
I appreciate that it's a volunteer project and there are no guarantees, and 
that the proprietary nvidia module is frowned upon, but generally speaking 
I see kmod updates within a day of the corresponding kernel update so I 
wonder whether I have broken something or am otherwise doing something 
wrong? If it's just a matter of having more patience that's fine too! 
Advice would be appreciated.




root@snoopy ~ # yum search kmod-nvidia
Loaded plugins: langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit
adobe-linux-i386
   |  951 B 00:00
adobe-linux-x86_64  
   |  951 B 00:00
fedora/17/x86_64/metalink   
   |  32 kB 00:00
fedora  
   | 4.2 kB 00:00
rpmfusion-free  
   | 3.3 kB 00:00
rpmfusion-free-updates  
   | 3.3 kB 00:00
rpmfusion-nonfree   
   | 3.3 kB 00:00
rpmfusion-nonfree-updates   
   | 3.3 kB 00:00
steam   
   | 2.9 kB 00:00
updates/17/x86_64/metalink  
   |  19 kB 00:00
updates 
   | 4.7 kB 00:00
(1/3): steam/primary_db 
   |  28 kB 00:01
(2/3): fedora/primary_db
   |  14 MB 01:23
(3/3): updates/primary_db   
   | 7.2 MB 00:49
(1/6): adobe-linux-x86_64/primary   
   | 1.2 kB 00:00
(2/6): adobe-linux-i386/primary 
   |  11 kB 00:00
(3/6): rpmfusion-nonfree/primary_db 
   | 138 kB 00:04
(4/6): rpmfusion-nonfree-updates/primary_db 
   | 127 kB 00:04
(5/6): rpmfusion-free-updates/primary_db
   | 292 kB 00:04
(6/6): rpmfusion-free/primary_db
   | 403 kB 00:05
fedora/group_gz 
   | 434 kB 00:02
rpmfusion-free/group_gz 
   | 1.6 kB 00:00
rpmfusion-free-updates/group_gz 
   | 1.6 kB 00:00
rpmfusion-nonfree/group_gz  
   | 1.0 kB 00:00
rpmfusion-nonfree-updates/group_gz  
   | 1.0 kB 00:00
updates/group_gz
   | 435 kB 00:02
adobe-linux-i386
17/17
adobe-linux-x86_64  
  2/2
updates/pkgtags 
   |  333 B 00:00
== N/S Matched: kmod-nvidia 
==
akmod-nvidia.x86_64 : Akmod package for nvidia kernel module(s)
akmod-nvidia-173xx.x86_64 : Akmod package for nvidia-173xx kernel module(s)
akmod-nvidia-96xx.x