Seem to have screwed my F25......

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Evening all,

I thought it would be a Good Idea to "improve" my Fedora system if I 
added an SDD.

I put it in, plugged it in & it seemed to work - sort of

What I now have is a selection window from grub which has 2 new versions 
of F25 Workstation (on sda), then an F19, also on sda, followed by the 
F25 on sdb (my SDD).


What I would like to do is to remove the 2 new F25s because the one was 
only stated to allow me to boot the system; remove the F19 & put F25 on 
sdb as the default.  I hope that doing something like this would mean 
that (system) updates would be applied to the SDD F25, and that I would 
be able to access all the software I have on /home..


Does anyone have any ideas how I might be able to do this???

Would I need to change any of my SATA cables to make sdb into sda???

Many thanks for any suggestions!

Dave
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Re: XP-332

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On 09/12/16 02:23, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:


This information is from PCLOS, but it may also apply to your setup. It
applies specifically to an Epson WP-4530 all-in-one.  In order to make
the scanner work, there is a
file in /etc/sane.d named dll.conf. That file is a list of all kinds of
scanners, and in that list is epson and #epson2. put a # in front of
epson and remove the # in front of epson2. My information says do this
if the /printer/scanner is on your lan. Also in /etc/sane.d net
autodiscovery should be uncommented.
Don't know if this will apply to Fedora, but it's worth a look.

--doug


Hi Doug

THANK YOU!!

I had to change dll.conf, commenting out all the printer filenames 
except epson2,  and in epson2.conf I added the usb  0x04b8 0x110b & left 
the net autodiscovery as it was.


All now seems to work as I expect!  Xsane now shows 2 posssible scanners.

Again many thanks to you & to Greg for getting me out of the dark brown 
stuff!!


Dave
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Re: Epson XP_332

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On 25/11/16 07:44, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:

From:
Greg Woods 
Date:
Thu, 24 Nov 2016 22:12:53 -0700

To:
freddog...@yahoo.co.uk, Community support for Fedora users




On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 2:42 PM, DB mailto:freddog...@yahoo.co.uk>> wrote:

I've recently bought an Epson all-in-one & am having a pile of
difficulty to get it to work properly.


What driver are you using for it? I have a WF-3620 and WF-3640
all-in-ones, and I discovered that the driver packaged with Fedora
doesn't work. I had to download a driver from Epson instead. This, even
though ostensibly the Fedora driver has a newer version. This latter
fact I didn't discover until I realized that my printer quit working
every time I did an update, so I had to add exclude=epson* to dnf.conf
to keep dnf from replacing the Epson-downloaded driver with the
Fedora-packaged one on each update.

--Greg


Hi Greg,

Thanks for your note.  I'm using a driver I downloaded from Epson's own 
site.  The driver part seems to work ok.  I noticed that I hadn't 
unpacked & installed the scanner "bundle" - one would assume that a 
package for an all-in-one would install all parts.. However, 
following Epson's instructions doesn't seem to do anything.


Wouldn't it be nice if there was a button on a printer which sends a 
"here I am" message to all stations on the LAN?f


Thanks again for your help

Dave
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Epson XP-332

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Good evening all!

I've recently bought an Epson all-in-one & am having a pile of 
difficulty to get it to work properly.


a) Connected via USB, it appears to work.
b) Connected via wifi, it'll print but not scan.
c) operating via Oracle VirtualBox it does not get recognised,

Does anyone have any ideas how one may get the scanner to operate via wifi??

Does anyone know how to get the colour corrected after scanning??

Many thanks for any suggestions

Dave



Fedora 24 4.7.9-200.fc24.x86_64
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Re: Question for Fedora users of Garmin nuvi GPS

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On 07/09/2014 04:58 PM, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:

Subject:
Re: Question for Fedora users of Garmin nuvi GPS
From:
Patrick O'Callaghan 
Date:
Wed, 09 Jul 2014 14:26:05 +0100

To:
users@lists.fedoraproject.org


On Tue, 2014-07-08 at 21:32 -0500, Steven Ulrick wrote:

>Hello, Everyone
>I know that I can just go drive to a computer that has Windows
>installed on it and get this over with, but I shouldn't have to do
>that...
>I have new Garmin nuvi65LM GPS and of course the "GarminExpress"
>updating program that they force you to use only runs on Windows and
>Mac.  I tried installing the Windows version using Wine, with no luck.
>I then successfully installed GarminExpress in a virtual machine of
>Windows 7 that I have installed on Virtual Box.  When it tries to
>detect my device, it says that it can't...

Which version of VirtualBox? The one on the Fedora repos doesn't support
access to USB devices since that requires a non-free license. You need
the free-to-use one from virtualbox.org (they have a repo file you can
install for updates). And of course enable the specific device from the
VB panel.

poc



Hi,

I've got an old Garmin for the car & an eTrex for in my pocket, I update 
them both from Open Street Maps.  The devvices come up without problem & 
the chosen maps are just copied to the SD card.


Dave

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Re: Naughty question: copy Windows XP under Fedora?

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On 01/20/2014 12:44 PM, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:

Subject:
Re: Naughty question: copy Windows XP under Fedora?
From:
Frank Murphy 
Date:
Mon, 20 Jan 2014 10:34:57 +

To:
users@lists.fedoraproject.org
CC:
gayle...@eircom.net


On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 11:29:07 +0100
Timothy Murphy  wrote:



>It struck me that there is probably a simpler way of doing this under
>Linux, and I was wondering if someone not of a fanatical bent might
>help me.
>

Clonezilla:http://clonezilla.org/
It's gui based, not "expert" technical knowledge required to use.

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Frank
www.frankly3d.com



Hi Frank

I backed up my XP (+ its SP2 & SP3) within XP itself using Bartpe.  It 
works!


I also have a (what looks like) MS Backup copy, but I'm no longer sure 
how I did it


Hope that helps!

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Re: Fedora's audience

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On 12/04/2013 11:14 PM, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:

Subject:
Fedora's audience
From:
Beartooth 
Date:
Wed, 4 Dec 2013 18:25:02 + (UTC)


Hi all,

Going on 72, worked with computors(!) before they became computers 
(started 1963) using Fedora since FC6, both on desktop & laptop.


Always good to learn from (wish I still had Computer Literacy's Unix CLI 
card...).


Many thanks to all involved!!

Dave
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screen-lock doesn't appear to work properly F18, F19 KDE

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Good evening all - at least, it is evening here in Austria!

My 2nd machine is a Toshiba Equium A60-692, with a (massive!) 40GB 
harddrive & a (minute!) 750MB RAM.


It used to work fine, then I tried to fedup from F17 to F18..

Most of the time it would work fine, as long as I kept the mouse moving. 
 If I let the mouse stand still for too long, the screen would go black 
& a couple of seconds later the cursor would vanish & I'd have to do a 
power down restart to get the system back.  Same story if I did a 
right-click & lock screen - no wa to get the screen back.


Tried a fresh install of F18, same result; fresh install of F19 same 
result (all with KDE)


Tried a fresh install of XFCE F19 Live,  everything works fine.

Does anyone have any idea what might be stopping screen-lock  from 
working?  Or how to go about finding out what is really happening???


As ever, many thanks for any ideas!!

Dave
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Re: Clams

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On 09/09/2012 02:00 PM, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:

Sound advice indeedand slowly but surely I'm getting the hang of
itbut like..what you just described would have been for
me?.a TOTAL re-installation of EVERYTHING!..I wonder if there's
a "manual" with all the commands one might need? And then another
question would be: Are the commands different dependent on the distro
you use?...will the same commands work in Ubuntu.Fedora.Linux
Mint..Mandriva etc? And I guess THIS is the reason a lot of people
won't live Windowsbecause there's just TOO much information to
absorbat times I almost feel like crawling back into my "Regedit" /
"Task Manager" hole and staying there, but after being exposed to Linux
I don't think I could EVER allow myself to fall back into that
ignorant..close-minded state. S..If it means hours upon
hours of studying Linux commands then so be it. Eventually I think I'm
going to pursue a "cert" in Linux...nothing major just a general cert
that can allow me to get my foot in the door,and in doing so I'm
almost 100% certain that I'll need "terminal skills' in order to pass
the exams


EGO II


Hi,

I've just "found" -I guess it wasn't lost, but I didn't know about it - 
"The Linux Command Line" as a .pdf, some 500 pages of (to my mind) 
friendly explanation of the Command Line.  It shows differences between 
distros, & gives lots of "go try this & see what happens".  So far 
(page 120) my system still works


The file name I have is 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/linuxcommand/files/TLCL/09.12/tlcl-09.12.pdf


The book can also be purchased ready printed from:
http://www.lulu.com/content/paperback-book/the-linux-command-line/7594184 
($40-ish)

Hope that helps

Dave


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Problem while upgrading 15--16 with yum

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Hi all,

Hope someone can help me (again!!).

I'm trying to upgrade my desktop from F15 to F16 using

yum --releasever=16  distro-sync (with an added --skip-broken)

(same as I did on my laptop without problems) & after several minutes of 
lists of packages to be updated, the system comes to a screeching halt 
with the following messages:



Error: Protected multilib versions: GConf2-gtk-3.2.0-1.fc16.x86_64 != 
GConf2-gtk-2.32.3-1.fc15.x86_64
Error: Protected multilib versions: libsepol-2.1.1-1.fc16.x86_64 != 
libsepol-2.0.42-2.fc15.x86_64
Error: Protected multilib versions: GConf2-3.2.0-1.fc16.x86_64 != 
GConf2-2.32.3-1.fc15.x86_64
 You could try running: rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest


I tried the suggested rpm line & tried again, but always the same errors 
appear,  I tried to remove the packages with yum but would have ended up 
erasing the whole system


Can anyone please suggest a way round my error situation???


As ever, many thanks in advance!!

Dave
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Re: How do I get half my KDE panel back????

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On 02/05/2012 01:00 PM, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:

Subject:
Re: How do I get half my KDE panel back
From:
Ed Greshko 
Date:
Sun, 05 Feb 2012 18:26:45 +0800

To:
Community support for Fedora users 


On 02/05/2012 06:18 PM, DB wrote:

>  What I'd like, is to move it out of the "lost&  found" back into the
>  "Internet", and for the Orange Firefox icon to come back

Hover your mouse over "Applications" and then right click.  Choose "Edit
Applications" and you will get a gui that should be self explanatory.


Thanks Ed,

It actually required me to hover over the "big K" icon lower left, right 
click, then drag firefox from "lost & found" into "internet".  Success 
#1!!! Then I unlocked the widgets from the same place, went along to the 
"white page" icon clicked "icon settings" & waded through the whole pile 
of possible icons to find the Firefox one.  After a few seconds, it 
transported itself into the "internet2 entry.  After so many tries, it's 
good to have the real icon back!!


Many thanks, Ed,

Dave

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Re: How do I get half my KDE panel back????

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On 02/05/2012 12:16 AM, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:


>  Please can someone tell me a) what this left-hand part of the panel is
>  called

It's called the task manager widget.


Thanks, it's good to know what things are called!!



>  b) how to get it back???

Unlock widgets (if they are locked), open the panel settings (little yellow
thing at the right end), click "add widgets" and then choose task manager
(double-click it to put it on the panel). Drag it with the mouse to the
desired position on the panel. Close panel settings, and optionally lock
widgets.


Great, thank you Marko, I never thought of a panel manager as a 
widget...



>  BTW, if anyone knows where/how to get the proper icon for Firefox back&
>  how to put it back into "Internet" from "Lost&  found", I'd be grateful

I don't understand what "into Internet" means, and where is lost&found. Please
elaborate what is wrong and what you want.


Ahh sorry, thought it was "Quite Clear"!!!  When I click on the Fedora 
Application Launcher in the left-hand corner, I get a list of things to 
start grouped as "recently started", "applications" & "actions". 
Normally(!!) Firefox came up in the "Applications" "Internet" setting, & 
now is only to be found in "Applications""Lost and found""Firefox (Web 
browser)", without an icon.  It appears in the panel as a 'white page' 
icon, rather than its normal orange Firefox icon.


What I'd like, is to move it out of the "lost & found" back into the 
"Internet", and for the Orange Firefox icon to come back


As ever. many thanks!

Dave

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How do I get half my KDE panel back????

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Hi guys & gals,

Sorry to bother you with what must be a dead simple thing, but which is 
bigger than me at the moment!


I'm using F15 KDE, & until a week or so ago I had in the right hand part 
of my Panel the icons for the programs I most use & in the left-hand 
half, were tags (right titlee??) of any running programs.  Somehow, I've 
managed to erase/remove the left-hand part & I can't find out how to get 
it back!!!


Please can someone tell me a) what this left-hand part of the panel is 
called & b) how to get it back???


BTW, if anyone knows where/how to get the proper icon for Firefox back & 
how to put it back into "Internet" from "Lost & found", I'd be grateful


Thanks to you all for any help

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Re: Problems reading files after writing them to DVD

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On 04/14/2011 04:34 PM, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
> Subject:
> Re: Problems reading files after writing them to DVD
> From:
> Burkhard Plache 
>
> I had the same problem (Fedora 14 up-to-date, using Brasero),
> and blamed it on my CD/DVD burner. Hmm.
> - Burkhard
>
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Colin Paul Adams
>   wrote:
>> >  I've just tried archiving some of my photos to DVD. I used Brasero.
>> >
>> >  I tried this using two different DVD drives (the one built into my
>> >  desktop, and a USB device - both have worked fine before). I get the
>> >  same results with each.
>> >

Similar problems trying to copy Video CDs & DVDs to HDD  Thought my 
DVD Player was over the hill...

Dave

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Re: Cannot do KDE Graphic login

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On 04/14/2011 02:00 PM, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
> Subject:
> Re: Cannot do KDE Graphic login
> From:
> Gabriel Ramirez 
> Date:
> Thu, 14 Apr 2011 05:00:36 -0500
> Hi,
>
> My /var/log/yum.log shows:
>
> Feb 21 20:55:53 Updated: xorg-x11-server-common-1.9.4-1.fc14.i686
> Feb 21 20:56:19 Updated: xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.9.4-1.fc14.i686
> Mar 05 00:44:06 Updated:
> xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.13.1-0.4.20100705git37b348059.fc14.i686
> Apr 11 15:01:18 Updated: xorg-x11-server-common-1.9.5-1.fc14.i686
> Apr 11 15:13:38 Updated: xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.9.5-1.fc14.i686
>
> maybe the new xorg server is incompatible at the moment with your ati card,
>
> a possible solution
>
> # grep xorg /var/log/yum.log to find your exact previous version and go to:
>
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=63
>
> and download the rpms to your machine and:
>
> yum --nogpgcheck downgrade fullrpmnames
>
>
> Gabriel
>
Thanks Gabriel,

a) I didn't know these 2 ways of getting at what was installed, they'll 
be a great help in the future!
b) it appears that about the only thing that might have caused problems 
is an install of kernel-2.6.35.12-88.fc14.x86_64 & its associated 
bits... (I'd downloaded the 2 xorg packages on 5 April & as far as I can 
remember I hadn't rebooted since then)
I'd been trying to get "enough stuff" to be able to play Windoze 
compatible CDs & DVDs so maybe something in there bit me!

Anyway, thanks for your input, I'm back to a working system again & with 
a number of tricks to keep me going for a while!

Cheers

Dave
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Re: Cannot do KDE Graphic login

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On 04/14/2011 01:30 AM, Chris Smart wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:23 PM, DB  wrote:
>>
>> The nearest I can do to a "normal boot" is to start in init 3 to the cli,
>> which gives in /var/log/Xorg.0.log:
>>
>> Everything is normal down to the last 3 or 4 lines
>> 481.125] (EE) No devices detected
>>  Fatal service error
>>  No screens found
>>
>
> OK, sounds like X.Org isn't happy. If you're sure that you don't have
> an /etc/X11/xorg.conf already, you could try creating one for init 3:
> X -configure
>
> Does that create a config file?
>
> If so, you can follow the instructions to try to run X with it, or
> copy it to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and boot runlevel 5.
>
> -c
>
YEAAAH!

Thanks Chris, that has put me back in business!!

Phew, what a kerfuffle, just for doing an update!  Now all I need to do 
is to try & find out what I (really) did to it...

Thanks again, if ever you're over this way, give us a shout & we'll have 
(at least) a beer together!

Dave
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Re: Cannot do KDE Graphic login

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On 04/13/2011 02:01 PM, Chris Smart wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 9:58 PM, DB  wrote:
>> Answer to both: NO!
>>
>> (MB has an ATI chip onboard)
>>
>
> Hmm... if you boot normally, what does the X log say?
> /var/log/Xorg.0.log
>
> -c
>
Hi Chris

The nearest I can do to a "normal boot" is to start in init 3 to the 
cli, which gives in /var/log/Xorg.0.log:

Everything is normal down to the last 3 or 4 lines
481.125] (EE) No devices detected
  Fatal service error
  No screens found


BTW, during boot, if I press esc, the list of processes(?) started runs 
fine down to (I think) Smartd then hangs on that line & jumps off to the 
CLI..

Thanks for your help!!

Dave
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Cannot do KDE Graphic login

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Hi all,

Yet again a problem!

I've been running F14 64 bit now for about a month, mainly without 
problem... until yesterday afternoon.  I did a yumex update, 
installed a few apps, then poof... stuck!

Firstly, trying to reboot, it shows the F14 blue screen with the acorn 
thingy in the middle, then goes black with a flashing cursor in the top 
left hand corner, the nix - nada - nowt.

So using this F13 installation on anothe HDD, went in and modified 
inittab from 5 to 3, can now boot to a CLI screen & run most 
non-graphical things.

Try to startx but it comes up as "no devices found" waits a few seconds 
then gives me my prompt back. Same is true if I first do an su.

So the question is. how do I get my KDE screen back - preferably 
without reinstalling???

As ever, enormous thanks for any help!!

Dave

F14 64 bit, KDE
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Re: My DVD reader doesn't always load....

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Sorry all, forgot to change the title!  Mea maxima culpa!!

On 03/31/2011 09:09 PM, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
> DB  yahoo.co.uk>  writes:
>
>> >
>> >  Hi all,
>> >
>> >  I appear to have a problem with my DVD reader (Gigabyte Technology 16x16
>> >  DVD rw/r).
> Check if you have a newer firmware for it (manufacturer or reseller site).
>
>> >  When I put a dvd in the tray, sometimes the DVD title comes
>> >  up in the "recent device" window, sometimes nothing.  When "nothing"
>> >  comes up, sometimes the tray is locked&  I can't get the disc out again.
> For every action you take that ends with a faulty/unusual behavior, check:
> # tail /var/log/messages
>
>> >  ...
> JB
>
>
>

Thanks JB,

a) yes there is a newer firmware (came out in 2005, rather than the 2002 
version I'm running!)  B U T. it's a Windoze .exe file  & how does 
one get it to a device in F14 (no floppy, Win XP running on a Virtual 
Machine?  My searches of the 'net have not left me with anything very 
definite.

b) here's the tail output


Dave@Fedora-Blue ~]$ sudo tail /var/log/messages
Apr  3 15:29:11 Fedora-Blue kernel: [83978.355678] sr 4:0:0:0: [sr0] 
CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 1f ff 6a 00 00 02 00
Apr  3 15:29:11 Fedora-Blue kernel: [83978.355694] end_request: I/O 
error, dev sr0, sector 8388008
Apr  3 15:29:11 Fedora-Blue kernel: [83978.355703] Buffer I/O error on 
device sr0, logical block 1048501
Apr  3 15:29:18 Fedora-Blue kernel: [83985.179978] sr 4:0:0:0: [sr0] 
Unhandled sense code
Apr  3 15:29:18 Fedora-Blue kernel: [83985.179986] sr 4:0:0:0: [sr0] 
Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
Apr  3 15:29:18 Fedora-Blue kernel: [83985.179993] sr 4:0:0:0: [sr0] 
Sense Key : Hardware Error [current]
Apr  3 15:29:18 Fedora-Blue kernel: [83985.180008] sr 4:0:0:0: [sr0] 
Add. Sense: Timeout on logical unit
Apr  3 15:29:18 Fedora-Blue kernel: [83985.180017] sr 4:0:0:0: [sr0] 
CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 1f ff 6a 00 00 02 00
Apr  3 15:29:18 Fedora-Blue kernel: [83985.180032] end_request: I/O 
error, dev sr0, sector 8388008
Apr  3 15:29:18 Fedora-Blue kernel: [83985.180041] Buffer I/O error on 
device sr0, logical block 1048501


Basically, tells me SFA!  & when I tried loading a workable DVD, there 
is nothing in /var/log/messages to compare it with...

Thanks for any help anyone can offer!

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My DVD reader doesn't always load....

[DB]

Hi all,

I appear to have a problem with my DVD reader (Gigabyte Technology 16x16 
DVD rw/r).  When I put a dvd in the tray, sometimes the DVD title comes 
up in the "recent device" window, sometimes nothing.  When "nothing" 
comes up, sometimes the tray is locked & I can't get the disc out again. 
  I have a pair of DVDs, produced in Germany, one plays, the other 
doesn't.

If the disc loads, sometimes I can play it with Kaffeine, sometimes I 
have to use Bangarang, because Kaffeine doesn't see any start point on 
the disc.

Then one time, Bangarang plays one disc; when I try to play a second one 
it crashes

Anyone got any suggestions on how to try and debug this little lot?

As ever, many thanks for any help you can give me

Cheers

Dave

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Re: My "swap" space seems to have vanished....

[DB]

On 03/18/2011 04:42 PM, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
> Subject:
> Re: My "swap" space seems to have vanished
> From:
> "Michael D. Setzer II" 
> Date:
> Sat, 19 Mar 2011 01:42:33 +1000
>
> To:
> Martin Airs , users@lists.fedoraproject.org
>
>
> On 18 Mar 2011 at 15:34, Martin Airs wrote:
>
> From: Martin Airs
> To:   users@lists.fedoraproject.org
> Subject:  Re: My "swap" space seems to have vanished
> Date sent:Fri, 18 Mar 2011 15:34:10 +
> Send reply to:Martin Airs,
>   Community support for Fedora users
>   <mailto:users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org?subject=unsubscribe>
>   <mailto:users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org?subject=subscribe>
>
>> >  On Friday 18 Mar 2011 14:46:23 DB wrote:
>>> >  > df
>>> >  >  Filesystem   1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
>>> >  >  /dev/sda2 28833848   5518600  23022388  20% /
>>> >  >  tmpfs  1899484  1068   1898416   1% /dev/shm
>>> >  >  /dev/sda1   474440 50462399481  12% /boot
>>> >  >  /dev/sda3288370940  26611056 247111416  10% /home
>>> >  >
>> >
> Your swap is part of the LVM partitions.

I don't have LVM partitions - at least, I never set any up!!!

> cat /proc/partitions
>
> On mine it shows
> major minor  #blocks  name
>
> 80  488386584 sda
> 81 204800 sda1
> 82   32696288 sda2
> 83  455482912 sda3
>   2530   27123712 dm-0
>   25315570560 dm-1
>
> In this case dm-1 is the swap partition.
>
> swapon -s shows the status of the swap.
>
> On my system.
> Filename  TypeSizeUsed  Priority
> /dev/dm-1   partition 5570556 2156 -1

Yes, mine is similar
  swapon -s
Filename   TypeSizeUsedPriority
/dev/sdb5partition   2047996 0   -1

>
>
>
>
>> >  df -h on my system doesn't show swap either
>> >
>> >  [martin@desktop ~]$ df -h
>> >  FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
>> >  /dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_root
>> >  22G   20G  904M  96% /
>> >  tmpfs1005M  3.3M 1001M   1% /dev/shm
>> >  /dev/sda1 194M   62M  123M  34% /boot
>> >  /dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_home
>> >  50G   38G  9.5G  80% /home
>> >  /dev/sdb1 112G   95G   18G  85% /media/disk
>> >
>>> >  >
>>> >  >  Dave
>>> >  >
>>> >  >  uname -ar
>>> >  >  Linux Fedora-Blue 2.6.35.11-83.fc14.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon Feb 7 07:06:44 
>>> > UTC
>>> >  >  2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>> >
>> >  however if i type free -m
>> >  [martin@desktop ~]$ free -m
>> >total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
>> >  Mem:  2008   1759248  0100585
>> >  -/+ buffers/cache:   1073934
>> >  Swap: 3967 16   3951
>> >
>> >  my swap is indeed there, does free show swap on your system??

Indeed:
free -m
 total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
Mem: 3709   2013   1696  0102   1139
-/+ buffers/cache:770   2939
Swap: 1999  0   1999

>> >
>> >  Martin
>> >


Thanks all for the many suggestions!

Strangely, just after I sent my original mail, System Monitor suddenly 
decided, all on its own, to add the 2GB swap partition???  I
think I must have a Gremlin somewhere!

Anyway, things appear to be (back to) "normal"!

Thanks again

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My "swap" space seems to have vanished....

[DB]

Hi All,

Just gone wild & updated my system to a 64 bit monster, installed F14 
without problem

BUT

When I look at SystemManager, it lists that there is no swap space & no 
swap space available...

I remember setting Swap in an extended partition, then df tells me:

  df
Filesystem   1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda2 28833848   5518600  23022388  20% /
tmpfs  1899484  1068   1898416   1% /dev/shm
/dev/sda1   474440 50462399481  12% /boot
/dev/sda3288370940  26611056 247111416  10% /home

Fdisk gives me:

sudo fdisk -l
[sudo] password for Dave:

Disk /dev/sda: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121601 cylinders, total 1953525168 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x000b4b1d

Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *  63  979964  489951   83  Linux
/dev/sda2  9799655956901929294527+  83  Linux
/dev/sda359569020   645507764   292969372+  83  Linux
/dev/sda4   645507765  1953520064   6540061505  Extended
/dev/sda5   645507828   647098199  795186   82  Linux swap / Solaris


Which seems to me to suggest that the swap partition exists.

Anyone got any thoughts on how to get the swap recognised??

As ever, great thanks to you all for your help and support!


Dave

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Re: KRandRtray ??

[DB]

On 02/07/2011 04:42 PM, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
> Subject:
> Re: KRandRtray ??
> From:
> Rex Dieter 
> Date:
> Mon, 07 Feb 2011 09:17:33 -0600
>
> To:
> users@lists.fedoraproject.org
>
>
> DB wrote:
>
>> >  I have the feeling what you are writing is not true (or maybe I've got
>> >  something set wrong on my box.)
> it*is*  true:)  , but not free of bugs.  Sounds like you've found one, if
> you could be so kind as to file one @ bugs.kde.org ?
>
> -- Rex
>
>

Thanks for the reply!

Bug is filed:
Bug 265710 - KRandRtray loses changes at next start

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Re: KRandRtray ??

[DB]

On 02/06/2011 12:23 AM, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
> Subject:
> Re: KRandRtray ??
> From:
> Rex Dieter 
> Date:
> Sat, 05 Feb 2011 16:08:48 -0600
>
> To:
> users@lists.fedoraproject.org
>
>
> Jim wrote:
>
>> >  F14/ KDE-4
>> >
>> >  KRandRTray, how does it work ?
>> >
>> >  As User if you set resolution to the size you want and accept , after
>> >  Logging out of User and then log back in , the resolution setting has
>> >  changed.   How do you as User lock in setting so it will not change.
> right click krandrtray in systray, Configure Display, (do
> tweaking/configuring), click "Save as Default" (and it will restore on next
> login).
>
> -- Rex
>
>
Hi Rex,

I have the feeling what you are writing is not true (or maybe I've got 
something set wrong on my box.)

I have a Geforce 4 MX graphic card which has 2 outputs - one for the 
monitor, one for TV.  In KRandRTray, I switch the TV output to "disable" 
as I don't have anything on it, apply the set-up & save it to default. 
When I do either a restart or a new start, The new set-up has the TV 
output again to the right of the main 1440*900 monitor screen.

Any thoughts what I might be doing wrong??  (Must I use right-click 
rather than opening the window with a left-click???)

Thanks

Dave
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Re: Thoughts of a user

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On 12/26/2010 11:36 AM, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
> Subject:
> Thoughts of a user
>
> 2) Wifi: It may be a sore point, but there is no ease of installing
> (newer) machines with built in wifi cards. While I understand that all
> those things are built for functionality with Windoze, and that many
> manufacturers don't make their own Linux drivers, but even with the
> correct drivers it doesn't often work. I feel it should be on the
> forefront of the developers attention to make wifi work more easily - on
> all machines. Wireless computing is getting more and more popular, and
> is the future for the internet. So if Linux wishes to survive (sorry to
> put it so strongly), it is important that wifi works as easily as when
> installing Windoze. It doesn't; check the forums, check google. Few
> issues are so frequent.
>
> 3) Hardware management: su -, lshw, isn't good enough a hardware manager
> for the average user. A new app should be developed that looks better
> and is interactive. Enable and disable certain hardware should be an
> option. Finding manufacturer's details of driver-less hardware is a
> must. Aida32 springs to mind, XP's Device Manager springs to mind. GUI,
> interactive. This is necessary to appeal to the average user - ie. me.
> And while we're at it, try and make the wifi-card enableable through
> this app; rfkill unblock all doesn't always do it.
>

Hi there,

I agree with Ben on these 2 points

My son just gave his daughter a Netbook & the 2 of us spent a couple of 
hours trying to get it (and his Kindle) to link up to my wireless Lan. 
I used (in the evil dayz of Windoze...) to have McAffee on the system 
with its network manager which would at least draw me a pretty picture 
of what was visible/up/down on the LAN.  Sadly, it could never offer me 
anything like a "logging in check" where it could tell me "Ok, step 1 
works & gives me this result; step 2 gives me No Reply" & so on.  To 
know where I am in a logon scheme would be a great help.

Managing hardware is IMMHO yeuk!  You plug it in & Most Times It Just 
Works sometimes, it doesn't!  Where do you go from there?  Is there 
anywhere a Helpful, Friendly Piece Of Script that I can access without 
spending days hunting through Gooogle

Yes, Mr Gates Hardware manager, with its enable/disable/uninstall does 
seem to be a long step from that which I, as a not-very-experienced 
Fedorious, can find  BTW, anyone know if Computer Literacy still 
have their Quick Card of 'nix commands?  (Think I gave away my last one 
about 20 years ago)

TTFN

DAve

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Re: About programing, a general question

[DB]

>
> Back in the day, we used paper tape for our NC machinery. Lots of it.
>
> -- cmg
>
& how often did that either break or get snarled up, just coz the 
humidity had dropped  We suggested that Field Engineers should 
inspect all the young lady operators for *nasty* nylon clothing & remove 
it Was never accepted!

Ahh the good old days.  16k of memory took 2 to remove it, 64k (the 
system max) needed 3 extra wardrobes.

Have fun reminiscing

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Re: About programing, a general question

[DB]

On 12/17/2010 01:10 PM, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
> Subject:
> Re: About programing, a general question
> From:
> Parshwa Murdia 
> Date:
> Fri, 17 Dec 2010 17:40:11 +0530
>
> To:
> Community support for Fedora users 
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 4:24 PM,  > wrote:
>
> To avoid religious wars
> The "best" programming language, is the one you feel most
> comfortable with, obviously.
> >
>
> You say correctly, 'The "best" programming language, is the one you feel
> most comfortable with, obviously.' As I am new and starting just, so I
> guess (with all the suggestions I get and from searching too) that
> either Python or C language would be a good start. Pascal is now less
> used. However, I agree with you that programing principles remain the
> same for any language, indeed.
>
>
> --
>
> Regards,
> Parshwa Murdia
>
>
Hi Parshwa,

I've enjoyed reading these many suggestions...  Something I had the good 
fortune (?) to learn about in the 1970s was "Structured Programming", 
particularly the "Methode Wrnier".  (Yeah, I was working in Luxembourg & 
we got sent to Paris to learn M. Warnier's work...)  The one thing 
Warnier did NOT teach was a specific language!  We learnt how to 
structure & analyse:

What the client wants to see as output;
What we have available as input and;
what are the "conversion processes" we are going to need to make.

Particularly important is to recognise what is Always there (ie present 
(1) time), may be Present or Absent (ie is present (0,1) time) and 
something which is present One or More times (ie (n) times).

As you can imagine, if we need a repetitive structure (present (n) 
times) in the output, we must have a repetitive structure in the input & 
must construct a repetitive structure in the processes.  Sounds all so 
gloriously simple!

I can (or could!) write code in Fortran, Pascal, C, Series 32000 
Assembler (anyone remember that) & a couple of other 
machine-oriented codes.  Which one do I use to encode my solution?  The 
one which is either easiest for me to code OR the one which has the best 
set of operators for the problem.

As you (and many of your co-respondents say,) take a simple approach & 
see what you are comfortable with.  Kernighan & Richie is a good place 
to start,  Warnier is an interesting place to understand structure (if 
you can still find copies!!)

Hope it helps

Dave
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Re: F13 & my printer does not work....

[DB]

On 11/30/2010 11:15 AM, Tim Waugh wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-11-30 at 11:00 +0100, DB wrote:
>> Strange thing is that under previous Fedoras, I had to fight to get the
>> scanner recognised, this time, the scanner is recognised&  working, but
>> I can't get any of the print commands to offer me anything but a "write
>> .pdf to file".
>
> Sounds like you don't have a queue set up for the printer.  Did you look
> at System->Administration->Printing?
>
> Tim.
> */
>
Thanks Tim,

Seems like the system is getting s slow!

I'd been through the KDE menus several times before & there was no icon 
for the Epson printer - now there was one, but it couldn't find a 
driver.  Seems like the system detects an Epson DX6000, but then doesn't 
know what to do with it  I've set it up with the DX4850 driver & it 
now seems OK.  Maybe one day(!) someone will make an upgraded driver 
available!

Thanks for you help

Dave
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F13 & my printer does not work....

[DB]

Hi All,

Yet again I'll be very grateful for any help you can give me.

I just upgraded to F13 on my 2 systems & on both of them, I seem to be 
unable to print.  The 2 machines are
  a) my desktop
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UTC 2010 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
which was fresh-installed because preupgrade wouldn't reboot(G)

and b) my laptop which was preupgraded.

The printer is an Epson Stylus DX6050 which "always" worked before

Strange thing is that under previous Fedoras, I had to fight to get the 
scanner recognised, this time, the scanner is recognised & working, but 
I can't get any of the print commands to offer me anything but a "write 
.pdf to file".

Can anyone suggest what I've forgotten to check?

As ever, great thanks for any suggestions!

Dave
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Re: keyboard locale configuration

[DB]

On 23/10/10 15:41, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:

> I use the Irish keyboard in Gnome, and all is well, including when I
> start a terminal.
>
> However if I press CTRL-ALT-Fn to get a console, I get the "wrong"
> keys, for example, if I press '\' I get '<'. These are the contents of
> my /etc/sysconfig/keyboard file:
>
Hi,

I changed the US default to the UK Natural keyboard via the keyboard 
marker at the bottom right of my KDE screen Seems to be OK for me.

Dave
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Re: Help with VirtualBox??????

[DB]

On 30/09/10 00:35, Germán A. Racca wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-09-29 at 15:23 +0200, DB wrote:
>> On 28/09/10 00:49, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
>>> The version of VirtualBox from the fedora repos does not include USB
>>> access.
>>>
>>> 1) Uninstall VirtualBox-OSE.
>>> 2) Then copy the repo from here
>>> http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/rpm/fedora/virtualbox.repo
>>> to yum.repos.d
>>> 3) yum install VirtualBox-3.2
>>>
>>> (seehttp://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads)
>>>
>>
>> Thanks, Steven, that has solved my problem
>>
>> Dave
>
> I've used VirtualBox-OSE (from rpmfusion) and VirtualBox (from the repo
> above) to run the liveCD of Fedora 14 Beta, but it didn't boot in any of
> the two versions of virtualbox. The same happended with the liveCD of
> Fedora 14 Alfa, it didn't boot.
>
> Does it happen to you? Any ideas?
>
> Regards,
> Germán.
>
Hi German,

Nope, once I removed the Fedora repo version & installed the one from 
virtualbox.org everything seems fine.  Had to make sure I didn't try to 
use the USB drive in bothe the vm WinXP and the Fedora host machine, and 
to click on the USB device in the Devices tag of the VM, but other than 
that, no problems.  BUTI am still using F12.

Cheers

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Re: Help with VirtualBox??????

[DB]

On 28/09/10 00:49, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
> The version of VirtualBox from the fedora repos does not include USB
> access.
>
> 1) Uninstall VirtualBox-OSE.
> 2) Then copy the repo from here
> http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/rpm/fedora/virtualbox.repo
> to yum.repos.d
> 3) yum install VirtualBox-3.2
>
> (seehttp://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads)
>

Thanks, Steven, that has solved my problem

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Help with VirtualBox??????

[DB]

Hi All,

Just loaded VirtualBox on my antique system - very pleasantly surprised 
how easily eveything (almost!) seems to have gone must be a problem 
waiting to bite me!

Anyway, reason for going down this path is to be able to use Photbook 
software which runs on everything - so long as it's called Winderz! 
Having got it running, I now need to be able to move photos from my 
Fedora 12 external USB harddrive & there comes Problemo Uno - my virtual 
machine can't see any USB ports.  During installation it kept bubling on 
aabout how I'd got USBFS set up & should change it, but no idea how.

So, question to you smart folks out there HOW do I change the USB 
file system to something it might like?  Or is there a different way to 
share data between the Fedora host & the XP guest machines?

As ever, many thanks fr all the time you spend helping me out of my "Tar 
Baby" situation(s)!

Greetings

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Re: can't set Okular as helper pdf app in Firefox

[DB]

On 02/06/10 14:42, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:

Subject:
can't set Okular as helper pdf app in Firefox
From:
Claude Jones 
Date:
Wed, 2 Jun 2010 08:42:12 -0400

To:
Community support for Fedora users 


This is Fedora 13 with the KDE desktop and all the latest updates:

When I click on a pdf link in Firefox, I get a message saying the helper
application doesn't exist and to change that in preferences. In Firefox
preferences in the Applications tab, the helper app is set to Okular. If I
download a pdf, as opposed to clicking on the link, and then right-click and
select open with Okular, it works fine.

In KDE settings, the file association for pdf's is also set to Okular

Is there another place this has to be set??
   

Hi Claude,

I had this (or something pretty close to it a while back. the 
assembled wisdom of the list put the problem down to the sender program  
not specifying the file type correctly.  Sadly, it's something we have 
to live with.


HTH,

Dave
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Re: Cpu usage by X (with more info) -even more

[DB]

On 04/05/10 21:28, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:

Subject:
Cpu usage by X (with more info)
From:
DB 
Date:
Tue, 04 May 2010 18:34:34 +0200

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Hi All!

Anyone able to give me an idea where to look..

Sometimes when I start my desktop, System Monitor tells me that "X" is 
running at max CPU %-age.  Other times, "X" is 4th or 5th in the list 
(I selected the CPU column to put the highest users on top), using 1 
or 2 %.


So, my question to you all:  What is "X" doing & how can I stop it 
doing whatever & keep my CPU chip cool?  BTW, I have no idea what 
X is!!!  I've tried killing it & that usually kills my desktop; just 
now killing it caused the system to restart.


My system: uname -ar
Linux Fedora-Blue 2.6.30.10-105.2.23.fc11.i586 #1 SMP Thu Feb 11 
06:51:26 UTC 2010 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux


running F11 & kde installed from the F11-KDE-Livecd.

As ever, Thanks for any help!

Dave

Oooops, forgot to put in "top" o/p:


Tasks: 128 total,   3 running, 125 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
Cpu(s): 53.6%us, 45.4%sy,  0.0%ni,  0.0%id,  0.0%wa,  0.7%hi,  
0.3%si,  0.0%st

Mem:510416k total,   451276k used,59140k free,22560k buffers
Swap:  2047992k total, 2140k used,  2045852k free,   199012k cached

  PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  COMMAND
 1922 root  20   0 72224  30m 5748 R 69.5  6.1  15:45.70 X
 2132 Dave  20   0  126m  33m  21m R 24.5  6.7   1:20.48 ksysguard
 2088 Dave  20   0  259m  28m  18m S  2.6  5.6   0:03.76 kwin
 2091 Dave  20   0  297m  24m  14m S  0.7  4.9   0:02.54 knotify4
 2092 Dave  20   0  304m  37m  23m S  0.7  7.4   0:13.00 
plasma-desktop

   48 root  15  -5 000 S  0.3  0.0   0:00.85 scsi_eh_1
 2116 Dave  20   0  274m  26m  17m S  0.3  5.3   0:01.81 krunner
 2351 Dave  20   0 89924  19m  13m S  0.3  3.9   0:04.49 konsole
 2369 Dave  20   0  2536 1076  828 R  0.3  0.2   0:00.48 top
1 root  20   0  2000  716  632 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.72 init
2 root  15  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 kthreadd



& there's another 100 or so processes loafing around.



Hi again,

Here's the output from top when all is running well

top - 22:09:50 up 9 min,  3 users,  load average: 1.29, 0.88, 0.46
Tasks: 128 total,   1 running, 127 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
Cpu(s): 10.6%us,  3.3%sy,  0.0%ni, 86.0%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  
0.0%st

Mem:510416k total,   493592k used,16824k free,25280k buffers
Swap:  2047992k total,  752k used,  2047240k free,   236980k cached

  PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  COMMAND
 1803 Dave  20   0  120m  29m  19m S  7.3  5.9   0:34.66 ksysguard
 1495 root  20   0 70836  30m 5744 S  3.3  6.1   0:32.77 X
 1954 Dave  20   0 90420  21m  14m S  2.3  4.3   0:04.78 konsole
 1764 Dave  20   0  301m  35m  22m S  0.3  7.1   0:08.29 
plasma-desktop

 1807 Dave  20   0  2436 1008  704 S  0.3  0.2   0:00.88 ksysguardd
 1835 Dave  20   0 66580  12m  10m S  0.3  2.6   0:00.22 klipper
 1971 Dave  20   0  2536 1076  828 R  0.3  0.2   0:00.51 top
1 root  20   0  2000  620  564 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.66 init
2 root  15  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 kthreadd
3 root  RT  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 migration/0
4 root  15  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 ksoftirqd/0
5 root  RT  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 watchdog/0
6 root  15  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 events/0
7 root  15  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 cpuset
8 root  15  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 khelper
9 root  15  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 netns
   10 root  15  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 async/mgr
   11 root  15  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 kintegrityd/0
   12 root  15  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.03 kblockd/0
   13 root  15  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 kacpid
   14 root  15  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 kacpi_notify
   15 root  15  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.14 ata/0
 Etc. etc. etc.

At this time ( like in the previous example) I had nothing running.  It 
seems as though when the system starts up, if x gets in first it hogs 
everything, if not everything runs ok, temp of the CPU goes down.  When 
x plays up, it would appear that it carries on "whatever it's doing" 
even while the screen is blanked out cause when I come back the cpu temp 
is up to 59 deg C.


Anything else I can give anyone?

And thanks to those who have already replied!

Dave

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Cpu usage by X (with more info)

[DB]

Hi All!

Anyone able to give me an idea where to look..

Sometimes when I start my desktop, System Monitor tells me that "X" is 
running at max CPU %-age.  Other times, "X" is 4th or 5th in the list (I 
selected the CPU column to put the highest users on top), using 1 or 2 %.

So, my question to you all:  What is "X" doing & how can I stop it doing 
whatever & keep my CPU chip cool?  BTW, I have no idea what X is!!! 
  I've tried killing it & that usually kills my desktop; just now 
killing it caused the system to restart.

My system: uname -ar
Linux Fedora-Blue 2.6.30.10-105.2.23.fc11.i586 #1 SMP Thu Feb 11 
06:51:26 UTC 2010 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux

running F11 & kde installed from the F11-KDE-Livecd.

As ever, Thanks for any help!

Dave

Oooops, forgot to put in "top" o/p:

> Tasks: 128 total,   3 running, 125 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
> Cpu(s): 53.6%us, 45.4%sy,  0.0%ni,  0.0%id,  0.0%wa,  0.7%hi,  0.3%si,  0.0%st
> Mem:510416k total,   451276k used,59140k free,22560k buffers
> Swap:  2047992k total, 2140k used,  2045852k free,   199012k cached
>
>   PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  COMMAND
>  1922 root  20   0 72224  30m 5748 R 69.5  6.1  15:45.70 X
>  2132 Dave  20   0  126m  33m  21m R 24.5  6.7   1:20.48 ksysguard
>  2088 Dave  20   0  259m  28m  18m S  2.6  5.6   0:03.76 kwin
>  2091 Dave  20   0  297m  24m  14m S  0.7  4.9   0:02.54 knotify4
>  2092 Dave  20   0  304m  37m  23m S  0.7  7.4   0:13.00 plasma-desktop
>48 root  15  -5 000 S  0.3  0.0   0:00.85 scsi_eh_1
>  2116 Dave  20   0  274m  26m  17m S  0.3  5.3   0:01.81 krunner
>  2351 Dave  20   0 89924  19m  13m S  0.3  3.9   0:04.49 konsole
>  2369 Dave  20   0  2536 1076  828 R  0.3  0.2   0:00.48 top
> 1 root  20   0  2000  716  632 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.72 init
> 2 root  15  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 kthreadd


& there's another 100 or so processes loafing around.
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Cpu usage by X

[DB]

Hi All!

Anyone able to give me an idea where to look..

Sometimes when I start my desktop, System Monitor tells me that "X" is 
running at max CPU %-age.  Other times, "X" is 4th or 5th in the list (I 
selected the CPU column to put the highest users on top), using 1 or 2 %.

So, my question to you all:  What is "X" doing & how can I stop it doing 
whatever & keep my CPU chip cool?  BTW, I have no idea what X is!!!  
I've tried killing it & that usually kills my desktop; just now killing 
it caused the system to restart.

My system: uname -ar
Linux Fedora-Blue 2.6.30.10-105.2.23.fc11.i586 #1 SMP Thu Feb 11 
06:51:26 UTC 2010 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux

running F11 & kde installed from the F11-KDE-Livecd.

As ever, Thanks for any help!

Dave
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Re: Thunderbird & Okular question

[DB]

On 01/31/2010 06:20 PM, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:

On Sun, 2010-01-31 at 12:30 +0100, DB wrote:
   

>  In Thunderbird, I have set my default for pdf attachments to Okular.
>  Everytime I try to open a pdf attachment, I get a dialog asking me if
>  I want to save the attachment.  When I save it, I then have to go to
>  the downloaded file&  open it with Okular.
>  
>  Have I missed something in my preferences?
 

Probably not.  You're probably being sent the attachment with an
incorrect MIME type describing it as "just some kind of binary file,
that I can't be stuffed to identify it properly."

   i.e. application/octet-stream

As done by many broken mail clients and broken operating systems.

Try sending yourself a PDF file, and it'll probably work properly, as
your system will probably identify it correctly when it attaches the
file to the outgoing message.

   

Thanks, Tim,

From the source of the "non-opening" message:

--_=_NextPart_001_01CAA0D0.4EC670B0
Content-Type:*application/octet-stream;*
name="Wochenprogramm 01.02-07.02.10.pdf"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Description: Wochenprogramm 01.02-07.02.10.pdf
Content-Disposition: attachment;
filename="Wochenprogramm 01.02-07.02.10.pdf"

And from one I sent myself (which does open):

--06080701040401020404
Content-Type:*application/pdf;*
 name="BMF_English.pdf"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment;
 filename="BMF_English.pdf"


I assume there is no way to persuade TBird/Okular to play ball with the 
octet-stream?

Cheers

Dave


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Thunderbird & Okular question

[DB]

Afternoon All,

Seeing all the post about not being able to open "latest pdf", I have a 
question.

In Thunderbird, I have set my default for pdf attachments to Okular.  
Everytime I try to open a pdf attachment, I get a dialog asking me if I 
want to save the attachment.  When I save it, I then have to go to the 
downloaded file & open it with Okular.

Have I missed something in my preferences?  I seem to remember "not so 
long ago" that the automatic opening worked.  (Automatic opening 
works for other sort of files, just not for pdf & okular.)

As ever, thanks for any insights!

Dave

 From Help-about Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) 
Gecko/20100120 Fedora/3.0.1-1.fc11 Thunderbird/3.0.1

uname -ar
Linux Fedora-Blue 2.6.30.10-105.2.4.fc11.i586 #1 SMP Tue Jan 19 22:31:48 
UTC 2010 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux

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Subject:,Re: QTParted - normal behaviour or BZ?

[DB]

On 01/31/2010 01:35 AM, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:

Subject:
Re: QTParted - normal behaviour or BZ?
From:
Cameron Simpson 
Date:
Sun, 31 Jan 2010 10:54:52 +1100

To:
freddog...@yahoo.co.uk, Community support for Fedora users 




|
| Question: is it correct/normal behaviour for an app just to vanish,
| rather than to give an error indication?

Only statisticly. Someone's been a bit lazy. Of course it should give an
error indication.


| Should it be BZed?

"BZ"ed?
   

BugZilla-ed!


Subject:
Re: QTParted - normal behaviour or BZ?
From:
Marc Wilson 
Date:
Sat, 30 Jan 2010 16:35:00 -0800

To:
Community support for Fedora users 


On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 2:58 PM, DB  wrote:

   

>  Question: is it correct/normal behaviour for an app just to vanish,
>  rather than to give an error indication?  Should it be BZed?
 

It*does*  give an error message.  Your argument is instead that it
should produce a shiny dialog box that you have to click on, vs a
terse announcement on STDERR.

If it's*supposed*  to produce that shiny dialog box (quick look at
source will tell you), and it doesn't, then it should have a bug filed
against it with Fedora.  If it's not supposed to, and you think it
should, then it's an upstream request.
   
Thanks,  I assume/expect (innocent that I am!) that a GUI would give me 
a GUI indication - even if it was only a redirect of STDERR ; after all, 
it starts off its "looking at the drive" window & then vanishes.  I 
would hope (NOT being a designer/programmer) that it would come back to 
the top window, showing the available drives, so that I had the choice 
of continuing with it.


Thanks to you both for your clarifications, I'll see what I can do next!

Dave


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QTParted - normal behaviour or BZ?

[DB]

Evening All,

Just tried to run QTParted on my F11-KDE desktop.  If I click on the 
internal Linux formatted HDD, all is well.

If I click on my external HDD (still NTFS), QTParted starts to look at 
the drive, then vanishes.  Tried running it from Konsole & got the 
message that QTParted is not yet able to work on NTFS partitions.

Question: is it correct/normal behaviour for an app just to vanish, 
rather than to give an error indication?  Should it be BZed?

Dave
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Re: A question to rsync....

[DB]

On 01/29/2010 02:57 AM, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:

Subject:
Re: A question to rsync
From:
Cameron Simpson 
Date:
Fri, 29 Jan 2010 12:11:23 +1100

To:
Community support for Fedora users 


On 28Jan2010 23:32, DB  wrote:
| If I rsync from my desktop to my laptop, all appears to be well, but if
| I use a script to copy files from desktop to external HDD, the owner&
| group all get changed to 'root'. part of my script follows:

What format is your external drive? If it is, say, a FAT filesystem then
it does not support user and group information.
-- Cameron Simpson  DoD#743 
http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/
Thanks, Cameron, it was an NTFS partition.  It is now an ext3 & 
permissions etc are "as expected"!


Dave
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A question to rsync....

[DB]

Good evening all,

The saga continues!

If I rsync from my desktop to my laptop, all appears to be well, but if 
I use a script to copy files from desktop to external HDD, the owner & 
group all get changed to 'root'. part of my script follows:

> D=`date +%Y_%m_%d`
> M=/media/Fed_Backups_plus/Fed_Backup/"$echoF11_$(hostname)_$D"/home/Dave
>
> rsync -CavzpA  --exclude Junk --exclude Trash --exclude *.log 
> .thunderbird $M
> rsync -CavzpA  --exclude *~ --exclude *.log WGR* $M
> rsync -CavzpA  --exclude *.log .kde $M
As I understand the man pages on rsync, the -a option should do an 
archive transfer, preserving ownership & permissions (and effectively 
include the -p & -A options -- I added them after the first trial gave 
me the root owner & group).  Anyone any idea why rsync is changing the 
owner

Also, kwalletmanagerrc throws an "error" each time I try the copy:

> rsync: send_files failed to open 
> "/home/Dave/.kde/share/config/kwalletmanagerrc": Permission denied (13) 

a) several times on startup I get the message "kwalletmanagerrc cannot 
be written to, contact the administrator" Looking at permissions, only 
the owner (root) can read & write it,
b) if I'm trying to make a backup "in case of emergency", do I need to 
backup this file?
c) if yes, how can I make my script "become root" just for this file?

As ever, thanks for any help & guidance,

Dave
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Re: Boot Issues:

[DB]

On 01/28/2010 04:50 AM, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:

Subject:
Boot Issues:
From:
Jeff Maxwell 
Date:
Wed, 27 Jan 2010 21:23:08 -0500

To:
users@lists.fedoraproject.org


After installing the latest upgrades including Kernel updates, I have
the following message when rebooting:


Fatal could not
load /lib/modules/2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.i686/modules.dep

No root device found

boot has failed, sleeping forever


I am able to boot using the prior version of the Kernel.


Thanks.


   

Hi Jeff,

If you did the update with yumex, there is/hasbeen a problem that it 
doesn't complete the update correctly.  The suggested solution (worked 
for me) is to

a) boot with the old kernel,
b) remove the new kernel with yumex,
c) install the new kernel using yum.

Hope it helps

Dave
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Re: Anyone know how to rsync or ssh to an ftp site? (Follow on to Tar Oddity)

[DB]

On 01/26/2010 06:32 PM, Athmane Madjoudj wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 9:12 PM, DB  wrote:
>
>> Evening All,
>>
>> After many trials&  tribulations, I've finally got my laptop running F12
>> - got caught by the "yumex kernel upgrade" problem - still can't get ark
>> to read consistently from my external disc -even after running cpu test
>> for 2 days&  memtest for 80 hours without error&  getting a clean bill
>> of health from palimpsest for the HDD, -  so tried rsync&  ssh&  finally
>> followed enough "how to"s to copy my /home from F11 to F12.  Thanks to
>> all for the many ideas of how to fix it!
>>
>> Now seeing how brilliant rsync is at updating my /home on the 2
>> machines, I thought it'd be a Good Idea to try and use it to keep a
>> website I look after, up to date.  Problem is - how do I specify the
>> "receiver" address, when I only have an ftp access to the distant system
>> (&  I guess my chances of installing rsync on a provider's system is
>> about as good as..)  All the notes I read on the 'net seem to work
>> with ip addresses, which I don't know how to find for my target...
>>
>> As ever, enormous thanks for any pointers&  pushes in a "good" direction!
>>
>> Dave
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>>  
> lftp* has mirror command built-in.
>
> AFAIK, rsync doesn't support ftp.
>
> [1] http://lftp.yar.ru/
>
>
Thank you!  I'll give it a try.

Dave
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Re: Anyone know how to rsync or ssh to an ftp site? (Follow on to Tar Oddity)

[DB]

On 01/23/2010 01:24 AM, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
As Patrick O'Callaghan has pointed out, the target site must be 
running an rsync daemon for you to connect with your rsync client. 
Fortunately this is usually rather simple to determine:


$ rsyncrsync://ftp.target.site  
 


--or--

$ rsyncrsync://rsync.target.site  
 

The actual DNS name of the rsync site may take some guessing, and you 
can always use an absolute IP address if you now it. If there's an 
rsync daemon running on that site, it should respond with the contents 
of the /etc/rsyncd.conf file following the initialization section. 
Those contents will guide you to wherever the folder(s)/file(s) may be 
that you want to fetch. For example, here locally I can type:


$ rsync rsync://lion
pub entire 1TB array
centos  Centos 5.4 mirror
cygwin  Cygwin mirror
f12 Fedora 12 General Release
f12_updates  Fedora 12 Updates
rawhide Fedora Rawhide / Development
 

To create or update a local mirror of the F12 Updates repository on my 
rsync server "lion" I just type:


$ rsync -acvxzHP --delete rsync://lion/pub/f12_updates/ 
/pub/fedora/linux/updates/12/
 


Hope this helps.




If all the remote site gives you is ftp, you could use either a GUI-
based FTP client locally (such as kasablanca [KDE] or gftp [GTK])
or a command-line batch FTP client (such as ncftp/ncftpput/ncftpget).

rsync would be nice, but in a pinch.
--
- Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ri...@nerd.com -

 Patrick, "Doc", Rick,

Thanks for your suggestions

As Patrick said, it doesn't work - I'd rather hoped there might be a 
sort of "one sided rsync" that would read the destination, do a diff on 
it & upload what was needed.  Ho hum.


So I tried the various rsync suggestions & got a resounding silence as 
response...


Installed Kasablanca & couldn't get it to connect... BUT, it looked so 
much list Krusader (which I'd been using to do manual updates) & found 
it actually has a "directory sync" in one of its menus & this has done 
exactly what I hoped!


Thanks again to you all

Dave

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Anyone know how to rsync or ssh to an ftp site? (Follow on to Tar Oddity)

[DB]

Evening All,

After many trials & tribulations, I've finally got my laptop running F12 
- got caught by the "yumex kernel upgrade" problem - still can't get ark 
to read consistently from my external disc -even after running cpu test 
for 2 days & memtest for 80 hours without error & getting a clean bill 
of health from palimpsest for the HDD, -  so tried rsync & ssh & finally 
followed enough "how to"s to copy my /home from F11 to F12.  Thanks to 
all for the many ideas of how to fix it!

Now seeing how brilliant rsync is at updating my /home on the 2 
machines, I thought it'd be a Good Idea to try and use it to keep a 
website I look after, up to date.  Problem is - how do I specify the 
"receiver" address, when I only have an ftp access to the distant system 
(& I guess my chances of installing rsync on a provider's system is 
about as good as..)  All the notes I read on the 'net seem to work 
with ip addresses, which I don't know how to find for my target...

As ever, enormous thanks for any pointers & pushes in a "good" direction!

Dave
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