Re: scripting Gnome - ?
On 4/14/22 1:52 PM, lejeczek via users wrote: Hi guys. Would you know best, or perhaps just a good way, to script Gnome, Nautilus/Files specifically? I'd like to script "bookmarks", which would if possible get re-created at user login automatically. All notions shared are much appreciated. Put a script in /etc/xdg/autostart or ~/.config/autostart to manipulate the ~/.config/gtk-3.0/bookmarks file as desired. - Mike ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
serial port woes
Hi all, If I install the moserial rpm from the repos, I can communicate with a serial device on /dev/ttyS0 just fine. However, if I remove the rpm, and compile it from source, the program launches and connects to /dev/ttyS0 (as reported by lsof), but data transmission doesn't happen. What could possibly explain the difference between the rpm version and the locally compiled version? Same code, but maybe different build flags? What would affect the serial port? I can communicate with the remote device using minicom or tio (using their rpms). selinux is disabled. - Mike ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
problem with personal default printers?
My F30 systems have recently developed problems... some programs use the "system-wide default printer", instead of the "personal default printer", as set in "Print Settings". Thunderbird and Firefox and LibreOffice have all started (incorrectly) using the system-wide default as the default printer, ignoring the personal override. gedit and gimp correctly use the "personal" default printer. I'm not seeing this in bug reports anywhere... Anyone else run into this? All my printers are accessed through a single cups server. - Mike ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: F26 rsyslog does not start after update
After updating F26: syslog does not start! This fixed it for me: dnf --enablerepo=updates-testing upgrade libfastjson.x86_64 - Mike ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Puppet in Fedora 22 working?
On 07/06/2015 05:30 PM, Trever L. Adams wrote: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1229703 I saw that. I got puppet to pretend to work. However, all of my node definitions are in Hiera. Somehow empty class list is being sent to the puppet clients. I have not been able to figure this out. Did you see anything like this? No, sorry, I don't use Hiera. I get impression that puppet on Fedora is not well-tested before release. - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Puppet in Fedora 22 working?
I was away from my installation for 6 months. I came back and upgraded to Fedora 22 (as Fedora 20/21 was giving me problems with FreeSWITCH and other things). After doing so I find that Puppet does not work. It doesn't seem to find any of the hiera (yaml and json backends) defined nodes get their catalog (they get one, but without the classes they should have) at all. Has anyone seen this? Any suggestions on how to go about remedying the problem? Probably this: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1229703 I have puppet working on F22 after making the hacks noted in the bug comments. - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: gnome-shell: slow logins?
On 03/10/2015 01:00 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: Some users experience login delays on 30-60 seconds after entering their username/passwd in gdm (the "last login" time is shown, so it is not an I've found that delays of this nature are often caused by reverse DNS lookup issues. Have a good looksee at your /etc/resolv.conf files on Thanks for the suggestion. Installing the nscd caching name server seems to cut the delays noticeably, although not entirely. It may be a NIS issue. - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
gnome-shell: slow logins?
I have a variety of F21 users, some with remote home folders (on gluster) and some with local home folders (on desktop SSDs). Some users experience login delays on 30-60 seconds after entering their username/passwd in gdm (the "last login" time is shown, so it is not an authentication delay). The gnome-shell background does not appear during that delay. What causes these delays? How can I debug it? I tried masking the colord daemon, and moving the tracker files out of /etc/xdg/autostart/, but it didn't help. Logouts can be painfully slow too. Some systems are super-quick to load, so it's baffling... Any ideas? - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
onboard NIC not working after upgrade
Hi, My onboard intel ethernet NIC (em1, e1000e driver) in my HP DC7800 no longer works after the upgrade to F21. It worked fine before. Inserting a PCI NIC (p3p1, e1000 driver) restores network functionality. The link lights for the onboard NIC are on during the bios bootup, but go dark very early during the linux boot. I don't really see anything interesting in the logs (I've grepped for e1000 below. Any suggestions? lshw says the onboard nic is "DISABLED". Why? ethtool says there is no link. Debugging stuff: [root@xena ~]# lshw -class network *-network DISABLED description: Ethernet interface product: 82566DM-2 Gigabit Network Connection vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 19 bus info: pci@:00:19.0 logical name: em1 version: 02 serial: 00:0f:fe:d4:f8:8e capacity: 1Gbit/s width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pm msi bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd 1000bt-fd autonegotiation configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=e1000e driverversion=2.3.2-k firmware=1.3-1 latency=0 link=no multicast=yes port=twisted pair resources: irq:26 memory:f020-f021 memory:f0225000-f0225fff ioport:3100(size=32) *-network description: Ethernet interface product: 82541PI Gigabit Ethernet Controller vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: b bus info: pci@:07:0b.0 logical name: p3p1 version: 05 serial: 00:1b:21:20:07:6e size: 1Gbit/s capacity: 1Gbit/s width: 32 bits clock: 66MHz capabilities: pm pcix bus_master cap_list rom ethernet physical tp 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd 1000bt-fd autonegotiation configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=e1000 driverversion=7.3.21-k8-NAPI duplex=full ip=192.168.0.94 latency=32 link=yes mingnt=255 multicast=yes port=twisted pair speed=1Gbit/s resources: irq:22 memory:f030-f031 memory:f032-f033 ioport:2100(size=64) memory:f034-f035 [root@xena ~]# ethtool em1 Settings for em1: Supported ports: [ TP ] Supported link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full 1000baseT/Full Supported pause frame use: No Supports auto-negotiation: Yes Advertised link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full 1000baseT/Full Advertised pause frame use: No Advertised auto-negotiation: Yes Speed: Unknown! Duplex: Unknown! (255) Port: Twisted Pair PHYAD: 1 Transceiver: internal Auto-negotiation: on MDI-X: Unknown (auto) Supports Wake-on: pumbg Wake-on: g Current message level: 0x0007 (7) drv probe link Link detected: no [root@xena ~]# grep e1000 /var/log/messages Jan 8 10:05:46 xena kernel: [1.787026] e1000e: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Driver - 2.3.2-k Jan 8 10:05:46 xena kernel: [1.787027] e1000e: Copyright(c) 1999 - 2014 Intel Corporation. Jan 8 10:05:46 xena kernel: [1.787208] e1000e :00:19.0: Interrupt Throttling Rate (ints/sec) set to dynamic conservative mode Jan 8 10:05:46 xena kernel: [2.088234] e1000e :00:19.0 eth0: (PCI Express:2.5GT/s:Width x1) 00:0f:fe:d4:f8:8e Jan 8 10:05:46 xena kernel: [2.088237] e1000e :00:19.0 eth0: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection Jan 8 10:05:46 xena kernel: [2.088257] e1000e :00:19.0 eth0: MAC: 7, PHY: 6, PBA No: 1062FF-0FF Jan 8 10:05:46 xena kernel: [2.093634] e1000e :00:19.0 em1: renamed from eth0 Jan 8 10:05:46 xena kernel: [ 16.154347] e1000: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Driver - version 7.3.21-k8-NAPI Jan 8 10:05:46 xena kernel: [ 16.154350] e1000: Copyright (c) 1999-2006 Intel Corporation. Jan 8 10:05:46 xena kernel: [ 16.568865] e1000 :07:0b.0 eth0: (PCI:33MHz:32-bit) 00:1b:21:20:07:6e Jan 8 10:05:46 xena kernel: [ 16.568870] e1000 :07:0b.0 eth0: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection Jan 8 10:05:46 xena kernel: [ 17.008937] e1000 :07:0b.0 p3p1: renamed from eth0 Jan 8 10:05:48 xena kernel: [ 21.061834] e1000: p3p1 NIC Link is Up 1000 Mbps Full Duplex, Flow Control: RX/TX -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?
MasterPdfEditor is horribly slow to display my pdfs, which contain matplotlib pdfs with thousands of data points. evince is very fast at this. evince chokes on PDF files with heavy bitmap-image content, like dense city GIS maps. (Probably due to poorly-implemented scaling internally; gtk routines don't do scaling well.) okular handles them fine. You have to pick-and-choose linux PDF readers depending on the application, unfortunately. - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: how to set LC_TIME in gnome?
On 03/12/14 11:01 AM, Ahmad Samir wrote: IIUC, GNOME overrides the system-wide locale settings with it own values, by default it's en_US.utf-8; there are two bits that affect the locale settings in "gnome-control-center -> Region & Language", Language and "Formats"; LC_TIME is affected by the "Formats" setting, which sets the value of the gsettings key 'org.gnome.system.locale region' (note that the same value is set for LC_NUMERIC, LC_TIME, LC_MONETARY, LC_PAPER, LC_MEASUREMENT). You can change the default for all users using the following steps: - Create /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/org.gnome.system.locale.gschema.override and put this in it: [org.gnome.system.locale] region='en_DK.utf8' - As root execute: /usr/bin/glib-compile-schemas /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas Thanks Ahmad, that's very helpful! - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: how to set LC_TIME in gnome?
Dottore are you saying system wide settings doesn't apply to GNOME? Not sure. Is it normal for locale and localectl to report different values for LC_TIME? [mjc@xena ~]$ localectl System Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LC_TIME=en_DK.UTF-8 VC Keymap: us X11 Layout: us X11 Model: pc105+inet X11 Options: terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp, [mjc@xena ~]$ locale LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8" LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8" LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8" LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8" LC_MONETARY="en_US.UTF-8" LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8" LC_PAPER="en_US.UTF-8" LC_NAME="en_US.UTF-8" LC_ADDRESS="en_US.UTF-8" LC_TELEPHONE="en_US.UTF-8" LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US.UTF-8" LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US.UTF-8" LC_ALL= -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
how to set LC_TIME in gnome?
How can I set LC_TIME=en_DK.UTF-8 for all users, to get a sensible ISO date format in most programs? Setting /etc/locale.conf doesn't help: [mjc@xena ~]$ more /etc/locale.conf LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LC_TIME=en_DK.UTF-8 After rebooting, and launching a terminal in gnome-shell, LC_TIME is stuck at en_US: [mjc@xena ~]$ locale | grep LC_TIME LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8" -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Editor for the gnome3 dash board contents (F20)?
On 08/27/2014 08:14 AM, Joachim Backes wrote: anybody knows how to add entries to the gnome3 activities dash board (screen, left side)? In gnome2 it's possible by alacarte, but this won't do what I need in gnome3: Add an own shell script to the menu entries. You need to create a *.desktop file for the script. Then you can add the activity to your customized list, as you would with any other program. https://developer.gnome.org/desktop-entry-spec/ - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 20 no /var/log/messages file
On 04/29/2014 04:56 PM, Chris Kottaridis wrote: Actually rsyslog is what I needed. Enabled and started it and rebooted and now I see messages and mailog. I don't remember having to do that in F19, but maybe I made slightly different installation choices. Thanks You're welcome. It is a change in F20. It is explained here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NoDefaultSyslog - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 20 no /var/log/messages file
On 04/29/2014 03:59 PM, Chris Kottaridis wrote: I am migrating from a Fedora 19 to a Fedora 20 host. I used the Fedora 20 live disk to install on the new machine. I have most things transferred over and working, but curiously I don't have any messages or mail log files in /var/log as I do in the F19 host: What does "systemctl status syslog" say? If you want syslog, you need to enable it. Otherwise, the new way is to use the journalctl command. - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: An scp question
From machine A (FC17) I can successfully do both of these: scp :/PATH (copy to machine A from B) scp :/PATH/ (copy to machine B from A) BUT from machine B (FC14), both of these fail: scp :/PATH scp :/PATH/ Check the AuthorizedKeysFile setting in /etc/ssh/sshd_config, on both computers. The default value changed at some point. One machine might be using: .ssh/authorized_keys and one might be using .ssh/authorized_keys2 I know I've run into this. They don't have to be the same; but you might not be using the authorized keys file that you expect. - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Updated to f20, but can only boot f19.
On 01/20/2014 04:37 PM, William wrote: This is a Fedora - windows dual-boot system, 64-bit. This afternoon, I updated to Fedora-20 using fedup. But Fedora-20 is not offered in the boot window. Sometimes I've had to update the grub selections manually, using: grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg grub2-install /dev/sda Not for the faint of heart, however. Beware. - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
dbus NetworkManager errors in log - what does it mean?
Can anyone offer some insight on what this endless-repeating log snippet means? Jan 16 09:23:05 potato dbus-daemon: dbus[870]: [system] Rejected send message, 3 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.3726" (uid=42 pid=19267 comm="gnome-shell --mode=gdm ") interface="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager" member="GetPermissions" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager" (uid=0 pid=21486 comm="/usr/sbin/NetworkManager --no-daemon ") - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: what's the point of filing bugs against Fedora?
I filed a bug (1040518) against the Mate desktop, and was told to ask upstream for help because they can help me. I don't understand this. I installed Mate from the Fedora DVD and I therefore expect the Fedora engineers to act as buffer between me and upstream. It should be their responsibility to work with the Mate engineers, not mine. FOSS bug triaging is a slow, time-consuming process that relies on interested VOLUNTEERS. Someone has triaged your bug report, and advised you of the best place to obtain support from the actual developers. Take the advice and report the bug where the developers are most likely to see your report and respond. It is not always clear where the best place to report a particular bug is. Luckily, someone has taken the time to tell you. The fedora bugzilla is generally best for packaging issues (e.g., missing dependencies, version X of foo broke version Y of bar). Upstream bugzillas are better for reports of program flaws. I've done tech support for Linux for many years. Do you know how long I would have lasted if I told one of my customers You aren't a Fedora customer. You are a Fedora user. - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Why some say "rpm hell"
On 11/21/2013 10:29 AM, AP wrote: Well I just heard a couple of guys saying "rpm hell". Now a days, when rpm works very well, still does it lag behind apt in some ways...? yum didn't always exist. yum handles the dependencies between packages. Before that, a lot of prayer was involved if you mixed rpm packages from different sources. - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Thunderbird unread message count
Has anyone else had problems with Thunderbird showing incorrect unread-message counts on IMAP folders since the last TB update (in the past week or so)? I don't see any bugs reported on it in the Fedora bugzilla. I'm using dovecot as the IMAP server. Deleting the TB *.msf files on the client, and the dovecot* index files on the server, did not help. thunderbird-24.0-3.fc19.x86_64 dovecot-2.2.5-1.fc19.x86_64 - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Black Windows in Gnome 3 (suddenly)
Looks a lot like this https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9044 I experienced the same, it worked for me adding the "Option "AccelMethod" "sna" " on my /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf Thanks! That bug was driving me crazy; this seems to fix it. - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: need help printing UPS shipping labels
On 08/14/2013 03:15 PM, Ananda Samaddar wrote: Try using a user agent switcher to fool the site into thinking you're using Windows or IE. I think FF has an add-on for it. Thanks! I should have thought of that; I use the agent switcher with certain government web sites. Setting it to IE7 does seem to "fix" the problem with the UPS label app. - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
need help printing UPS shipping labels
Does anyone here successfully print UPS shipping labels from the UPS online shipping tool? I find that when I try this with Firefox, epiphany, or Chrome on F19, the barcode-containing section of the label is generated as a 728x416 image. If I use Firefox or IE on Windows, the same label is generated as a 1400x800 image. The UPS scanners won't recognize the barcodes in the smaller images, so I have to print from Windows. Any ideas? Is this some odd javascript default-image size setting that differs with OS? - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: can't connect to avahi-daemon? Why not?!
On 07/19/2013 11:42 AM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: Hi all, I'm having a hard time making the new cups server broadcast method work. The avahi-daemon on my print server is not cooperating. It appears to be running, but nothing can access it. Why? Figured it out... avahi-daemon was pegged at 100% CPU. Probably this: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=952193 - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: can't connect to avahi-daemon? Why not?!
On 07/19/2013 12:30 PM, Edward Martinez wrote: On 7/19/2013 8:42 AM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: I'm having a hard time making the new cups server broadcast method work. The avahi-daemon on my print server is not cooperating. It appears to be running, but nothing can access it. Why? Any help most appreciated! Two likely causes come to mind. the messagebus service is not running , try:"service messagebus start" or /var/ ran out of space. Hmm, both look OK: [root@ulmo ~]# df -h /var Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/mapper/luks-26996aa1-560a-4bdd-bf40-64ccd220d687 69G 14G 52G 21% / [root@ulmo ~]# service messagebus status Redirecting to /bin/systemctl status messagebus.service dbus.service - D-Bus System Message Bus Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/dbus.service; static) Active: active (running) since Thu 2013-07-18 18:24:11 EDT; 18h ago Main PID: 477 (dbus-daemon) CGroup: name=systemd:/system/dbus.service ├─477 /bin/dbus-daemon --system --address=systemd: --nofork --nopidfile --systemd-activation └─529 /usr/sbin/modem-manager Jul 19 12:41:26 ulmo setroubleshoot[2600]: load_plugins() plugins.qemu_file_image previously imported Jul 19 12:41:26 ulmo setroubleshoot[2600]: load_plugins() plugins.chrome previously imported Jul 19 12:41:26 ulmo setroubleshoot[2600]: load_plugins() plugins.disable_ipv6 previously imported Jul 19 12:41:26 ulmo setroubleshoot[2600]: load_plugins() plugins.allow_ftpd_use_nfs previously imported Jul 19 12:41:26 ulmo python[2600]: [120B blob data] Jul 19 12:41:36 ulmo setroubleshoot[2600]: received signal=14 Jul 19 12:41:36 ulmo setroubleshoot[2600]: KeyboardInterrupt in RunFaultServer Jul 19 12:41:36 ulmo setroubleshoot[2600]: writing database (/var/lib/setroubleshoot/setroubleshoot_databa...nt=2 Jul 19 12:41:36 ulmo dbus-daemon[477]: Dan Jul 19 12:41:36 ulmo dbus-daemon[477]: Dan -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
can't connect to avahi-daemon? Why not?!
Hi all, I'm having a hard time making the new cups server broadcast method work. The avahi-daemon on my print server is not cooperating. It appears to be running, but nothing can access it. Why? Any help most appreciated! Debugging output below... - Mike [root@ulmo ~]# avahi-browse -a Failed to create client object: Daemon not running but ... [root@ulmo ~]# systemctl status avahi-daemon.service avahi-daemon.service - Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Stack Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/avahi-daemon.service; enabled) Active: active (running) since Thu 2013-07-18 18:24:11 EDT; 17h ago Main PID: 474 (avahi-daemon) Status: "Server startup complete. Host name is ulmo.local. Local service cookie is 1758851528." CGroup: name=systemd:/system/avahi-daemon.service ├─474 avahi-daemon: running [ulmo.local] └─478 avahi-daemon: chroot helper Jul 18 22:37:20 ulmo avahi-daemon[474]: Received response from host 192.168.0.43 with 0' Jul 18 23:37:20 ulmo avahi-daemon[474]: Received response from host 192.168.0.43 with 0' Jul 19 00:37:20 ulmo avahi-daemon[474]: Received response from host 192.168.0.43 with 0' Jul 19 01:37:20 ulmo avahi-daemon[474]: Received response from host 192.168.0.43 with 0' Jul 19 02:37:20 ulmo avahi-daemon[474]: Received response from host 192.168.0.43 with 0' Jul 19 03:37:20 ulmo avahi-daemon[474]: Received response from host 192.168.0.43 with 0' Jul 19 04:37:20 ulmo avahi-daemon[474]: Received response from host 192.168.0.43 with 0' Jul 19 05:37:20 ulmo avahi-daemon[474]: Received response from host 192.168.0.43 with 0' Jul 19 06:37:20 ulmo avahi-daemon[474]: Received response from host 192.168.0.43 with 0' Jul 19 07:37:20 ulmo avahi-daemon[474]: Received response from host 192.168.0.43 with 0' Jul 19 08:29:32 ulmo avahi-daemon[474]: Files changed, reloading. Jul 19 08:29:32 ulmo avahi-daemon[474]: Files changed, reloading. Jul 19 08:29:32 ulmo avahi-daemon[474]: Files changed, reloading. Jul 19 08:29:32 ulmo avahi-daemon[474]: Files changed, reloading. Jul 19 08:29:32 ulmo avahi-daemon[474]: Service group file /services/udisks.service ch...ng. Jul 19 08:29:32 ulmo avahi-daemon[474]: Service "ulmo" (/services/udisks.service) succ...ed. Jul 19 08:29:33 ulmo avahi-daemon[474]: Withdrawing address record for 192.168.0.2 on em1. Jul 19 08:29:33 ulmo avahi-daemon[474]: Leaving mDNS multicast group on interface em1.2. Jul 19 08:29:33 ulmo avahi-daemon[474]: Interface em1.IPv4 no longer relevant for mDNS. Jul 19 08:29:33 ulmo avahi-daemon[474]: Joining mDNS multicast group on interface em1.2. Jul 19 08:29:33 ulmo avahi-daemon[474]: New relevant interface em1.IPv4 for mDNS. Jul 19 08:29:33 ulmo avahi-daemon[474]: Registering new address record for 192.168.0.2...v4. selinux and iptables are OK: [root@ulmo ~]# sestatus SELinux status: enabled SELinuxfs mount:/sys/fs/selinux SELinux root directory: /etc/selinux Loaded policy name: targeted Current mode: permissive Mode from config file: permissive Policy MLS status: enabled Policy deny_unknown status: allowed Max kernel policy version: 28 [root@ulmo ~]# iptables -L Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
PCI multi-port serial adapter?
Can anyone recommend a PCI 4 or 8 port serial card with in-kernel drivers, that works "out of the box" with Fedora? - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: retrofitting LUKS encryption on installed system
So, my question(s): -can you do it while being booted into a recovery environment? -if not, is there any way to convert the whole thing that I'm not able to figure out on my own (perhaps I'm having a whole series of senior moments) ??? -Or would it simply be best to do a fresh installation? I think a fresh install is the only practical way. - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
audio in wireshark: how?
I want to play back some recorded voip calls in wireshark, but I get no audio when I press "play". Audio/video playback in firefox works fine. What secret sauce do I need to make this work? [mjc@xena ~]$ wireshark ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.rear ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.center_lfe ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.side jack_client_new: deprecated Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory Cannot connect to server request channel jack server is not running or cannot be started jack_client_new: deprecated Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory Cannot connect to server request channel jack server is not running or cannot be started Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory Cannot connect to server request channel jack server is not running or cannot be started - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F17: How to set up VPN for Android?
I use ssh tunnels to forward Android imap (port 143), smtp (port 25),
and http proxying (port 3128) to my Fedora server, using this app:
What do you use as a proxy on the Fedora server? glype? squid?
On the android you configure a proxy for each browser? Or does SPT just
send all port 80 requests to the server?
Any details on the config would be very helpful.
Install the SPT app & forward local ports 1043, 1125, and 3128 to remote
143 (imap), 25 (smtp), 3128 (squid proxy).
In my case, SPT Forwards =
"L1043=192.168.0.2:143,L1125=192.168.0.2:25,L3128=192.168.0.2:3128"
Here, 192.168.0.2 is the internal address of my server (not its external
IP).
The forwarded local ports need to be > 1024, IIRC.
You point the email client at localhost for the SMTP/IMAP, using the
special local forwarding ports 1043 and 1125.
For web use, I use Firefox, and in about:config set:
network.proxy.type = 2
network.proxy.autoconfig_url = http://www.avtechpulse.com/proxy/avtech.pac
That *.pac file says:
function FindProxyForURL(url, host) {
if (shExpMatch(host, "*.domain.avtechpulse.com"))
{
return "PROXY 127.0.0.1:3128";
}
return "DIRECT";
}
That means squid serves the private intranet pages from the private
squid server, and firefox accesses all other pages in the normal manner
(not through squid).
Firefox is the only browser that handles this proxy trickery well.
Sounds complicated, but works like a charm.
- Mike
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Re: F17: How to set up VPN for Android?
In any event, has anybody using any vpn package been able to set it up for a roaming client? I use ssh tunnels to forward Android imap (port 143), smtp (port 25), and http proxying (port 3128) to my Fedora server, using this app: http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.ayal.SPT The main gotcha is that each tablet needs its own dedicated ssh port, so that the office NAT/firewall/router can keep track of ssh sessions correctly. But that is easy to implement, for a handful of devices. It works quite well for my needs. - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: howto remove modem-manager ?
But it doesn't matter because I still require network-manager, so I can't uninstall modem-manager. It is possible to disable modem-manager (but not remove it, if you need NM). Delete this file: /usr/share/dbus-1/system-services/org.freedesktop.ModemManager.service - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Architectural CAD
On 10/28/2012 01:56 PM, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: Can anyone suggest an architectural CAD package comparable to AutoCAD for use in preparing layered drawings for residential remodeling? No FOSS package approaches AutoCAD, unfortunately, although I've used QCad for minor household renovations. If you need something heavier-duty, these are some non-FOSS but Fedora-runnable options: http://www.varicad.com/en/home/ http://www.bricsys.com/en_INTL/bricscad/ - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
upgrading with preupgrade-cli --vnc
Hi all, What grub2 secret sauce do I need to upgrade remote servers to F17 using vnc? This is the first step, clearly: preupgrade-cli --vnc=apassword --ip=192.168.0.240 --gateway=192.168.0.128 --netmask=255.255.255.0 --dns=192.168.0.2 "Fedora 17 (Beefy Miracle)" However, this installs the upgrade boot menu item as a non-default item. In other words, by default it will boot back into F16 without doing the upgrade. What's the correct way of forcing the upgrade choice in the grub2 menu to be the default, so I don't need a local user at the console? I edited /etc/default/grub, setting grub2_default to "0", and ran: grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg but that wiped out the upgrade choice entirely. Not sure why. I don't think the preupgrade-cli docs have caught up with grub2. - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: After installing F17 I lost access to a specific directory of my external disk
On 05/30/2012 12:24 PM, Jonathan Allen wrote: The reason I'm asking is that Fedora recently changed from starting user ID numbers with 500 to 1000, and there's a chance you might have been bit by it. Where can I configure this? We have a network with a variety of versions of Fedora, and all our user IDs (and on backup CDs and DVDs) start from 200. It's kind of annoying having to click 'other' before beibg able to log in. /etc/login.defs See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/1000SystemAccounts You might want to change your users over to the new scheme. This script will help: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2012-January/412293.html - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: "Power off" is coming back!
On 05/11/2012 09:09 AM, Darryl L. Pierce wrote: On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 08:52:05AM -0400, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: The "Power off" item is returning to the shell menu. Hurray! There's already a shell extension [1] that enables this now. I know, but I've had issues with it over time. Maybe they're fixed now, but in the past that extension caused the dreaded "Oh no, something has gone wrong" crash on my systems. And the process for enabling extensions has been just plain weird (maybe it is easier now). I avoid extensions now. - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
"Power off" is coming back!
The "Power off" item is returning to the shell menu. Hurray! http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=675802#c9 http://live.gnome.org/GnomeOS/Design/Whiteboards/SystemStopRestart#Design_Updates - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: mtpfs work for you?
On 04/10/2012 09:33 AM, Neal Becker wrote: Trying to mount my galaxy nexus. I built mtpfs, but it doesn't seem to work on F16. It just seems to hang. No, it seems pretty broken. Read more here: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.general/411094 If you just want to transfer photos, switch to PTP mode. If you want to transfer other files, WLAN apps are probably the best bet. - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 16 / gnome3 / ATI Technologies Inc Device 9648 (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]
On 03/28/2012 04:55 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: I am still unable to boot to gnome3 without going to failsafe mode; your help would be appreciated. What happens when you boot from a LiveCD? II my case the live DVD comes up in regular Gnome 3 mode but the i -- installed system does not. See if this helps: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-November/408334.html - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: rc.local not loaded on boot
On 03/27/2012 10:06 PM, David G. Miller wrote: On my machine any systemctl statement that includes rc.local.service returns a statement that rc.local.service does not exist. What do you get from the web site? The thread contains an extensive troubleshooting discussion of how to get rc.local functionality working. There are quite a few things to check and the thread covers most of them. The OP had a typo. He was using "rc.local.service" instead of "rc-local.service". Fixing that fixed his problem. - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: rc.local not loaded on boot
On my machine any systemctl statement that includes rc.local.service returns a statement that rc.local.service does not exist. It should be "rc-local.service", not "rc.local.service". Like this: [root@xena ~]# systemctl -a | grep rc-local rc-local.service loaded active running - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora disimprovements: am I alone?
On 03/23/2012 08:32 AM, Craig White wrote: As TM has been told elsewhere in this thread, this doesn't work for openvpn, because of its need for a pointer to a specific configuration file - you have to make a manual link, or use some other odd syntax. This is definitely a weird quirk that is not handled elegantly by systemd at the current time. sounds like something that should be handled in /etc/sysconfig rather than within the systemd files themselves. Yes, or provide separate openvpn-server.service and openvpn-client.service files, which read /etc/openvpn/server.conf and /etc/openvpn/client.conf respectively. I imagine it will get sorted out one way or another... at the moment, it is a bleeding-edge corner-case oddity. - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora disimprovements: am I alone?
How they were started does not seem to have much to do with chkconfig. The init system used a series of hard-coded numbers in the init scripts to judge which services were to be started in which sequence, which was a horrible mess. You had to make sure the service X's priority of 37 was in between service Y'x priority of 18 and service Z's priority of 56. With systemd, you just say things like: After=syslog.target network.target auditd.service and/or Before=poweroff.service reboot.service halt.service Which is MUCH more concise and easy to understand. The computer figures it all out, instead of the user having to juggle priority levels. Also, all init scripts with priorities > 37 would all have to wait for the "service X" to finish. This is not so with systemd. The service files specify the minimum dependencies. If service Z does not require service X, it can go ahead, even if service X gets delayed. See? - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora disimprovements: am I alone?
On 03/22/2012 04:41 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 03/22/2012 01:26 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: Incidentally, none of the systemctl advocates has answered my query: How do I say "chkconfig openvpn on" in systemctl-speak? I'm not that fond of systemctl, but I can help with this: systemctl enable openvpn.service As TM has been told elsewhere in this thread, this doesn't work for openvpn, because of its need for a pointer to a specific configuration file - you have to make a manual link, or use some other odd syntax. This is definitely a weird quirk that is not handled elegantly by systemd at the current time. For some people, that's proof (PROOF I tell you!) that systemd is horrible and the developers are evil... - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora disimprovements: am I alone?
On 03/22/2012 01:04 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: I'd agree that the systemctl syntax is clumsier. The CLI syntax is different, but the difference is negligible once you are used to it. However, the *.service file syntax is much, MUCH simpler than the old init scripts! An old-style postgrey init script: http://lists.puremagic.com/pipermail/greylist-users/2006-May/001208.html A new-style postgrey service file: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=714430#c10 There is way less wonky bash scripting in the new service file, because it is mostly declarations, rather than code. As an added bonus, the old postgrey init script never worked properly for me (it did not kill cleanly, no idea why), but the new systemd service file works great. For example, if you declare the name of the pid file in the service file, systemd automatically knows to use that pid when stopping the service. It's brilliant. - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora disimprovements: am I alone?
I'd agree that the systemctl syntax is clumsier. But on my machines, the boot time has reduced dramatically. I still haven't discovered the equivalent of "chkconfig openvpn on" under the new dispensation. openvpn has special issues with systemd, but once you know the magic recipe, it works fine. See: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=744244 If your openvpn config file is /etc/openvpn/client.conf, do: ln -s /lib/systemd/system/openvpn\@.service \ /etc/systemd/system/openvpn\@client.service systemctl daemon-reload systemctl start openvpn@client.service systemctl status openvpn@client.service Replace "client" with "server" in each command if the computer is the openvpn server. - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: importing photos from Galaxy Nexus Android phone?
On 03/12/2012 01:22 PM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: Hi all, Has anyone found a successful, reliable recipe for importing photos from a Galaxy Nexus Android phone? Never mind. I've figured out that the Galaxy Nexus does in fact have a PTP mode, which "just works" with gThumb. The default MTP mode seems to be totally broken under linux. For other Galaxy Nexus users: after plugging in the USB cable, "swoosh" the USB notification at the top of the screen. That will let you switch to PTP mode. Obscure UI... - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
importing photos from Galaxy Nexus Android phone?
Hi all, Has anyone found a successful, reliable recipe for importing photos from a Galaxy Nexus Android phone? I find that F16 does not do anything with the phone when it is plugged into the USB port. The kernel recognizes it, and gphoto2 can access it, but nothing happens automatically. I can force gvfs to mount the phone using: gvfs-mount "gphoto2://[usb:001,003]/" (using the usb address shown by lsusb) With it mounted, gThumb sees the device (it relies on gvfs), and it can import the photos. Other cameras work OK, so the gvfs/gphoto2 subsystem is working. My bug report: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=671906 Any clues? - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: split pdf file into two
pdfshuffler works well, except that page previews are currently broken (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=769732). But it does work. - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: systemd broken for key servcies in F16
[root@voyager ~]# systemctl status ntpd.service ntpd.service Loaded: error (Reason: No such file or directory) Active: inactive (dead) [root@voyager ~]# systemctl status spamd.service spamd.service Loaded: error (Reason: No such file or directory) Active: inactive (dead) So what file is missing and why did the package maintainer fail to include it? [root@voyager ~]# yum list installed | grep -e spamassassin -e ntp ntpdate.x86_644.2.6p4-1.fc16 @fedora spamassassin.x86_64 3.3.2-7.fc16 @fedora ntpd.service is provided by the ntp package, which you do not have installed. yum provides "*/ntpd.service" would have told you that. You need: yum install ntp ntpdate is not the same thing. - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Purpose of /etc/passwd- and /etc/shadow- ?
he was speaking about "/etc/shadow-" and NOT "/etc/shadow" and yes i am sure they are backups Whoops, right you are! - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Purpose of /etc/passwd- and /etc/shadow- ?
On 01/12/2012 12:05 AM, Joachim Backes wrote: Hi all, adding a new user with "useradd ..." will create two additional files never removed: /etc/passwd- and /etc/shadow- Question: are these files only created for backup purposes, or is there another reason for this? /etc/passwd is world-readable, and contains the basic account info (id, real name, home folder). /etc/shadow is root-only-readable, and contains the password info. They are separate to improve security. They are not backups. Those are the main files for local authentication. - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 16 instabilities (uid/gid change script)
On 01/11/2012 04:37 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 01/11/2012 12:57 PM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: The perl script for for fixing uid/gid numbering is below. Thanx. I've saved it, and your instructions for future use. I presume that this has to be done as root, although you didn't mention it. Yes, run it as root. (And "chmod u+x script.pl" to make it executable.) - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 16 instabilities (uid/gid change script)
On 01/11/2012 03:45 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 01/11/2012 12:39 PM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote:
Yes it is, but that's easily fixed with a one-time script. I can send
you a sample perl script if you need one.
As I've mentioned elsewhere, when I upgrade my machine I'll move to a 64
bit system and deal with the UID issue. I have three users: myself and
two friends who have ssh access for various reasons. If your script can
handle multiple users without editing, please send me a copy for future
use.
The perl script for for fixing uid/gid numbering is below.
First run:
script.pl --foundonly
and that will display a "dry run" of the bash commands it would execute.
That will not actually write any changes to disk.
To do an actual run, do:
script.pl --foundonly --write
The --foundonly switch limits it to gids and uids actually found in your
/etc/passwd and /etc/group files.
- Mike
#!/usr/bin/perl
use strict;
use Getopt::Long;
my $old_start = 500;
my $max_old_id = 525;
my $new_start = 1000;
my $write = 0;
my $foundonly = 0;
my $start_at = "/";
GetOptions(
'write' => \$write,
'foundonly' => \$foundonly
);
my $delta = $new_start - $old_start;
my %fix_uids = ();
my %fix_gids = ();
print "\n-- update user database \n\n";
# get user info
while ( ( my $name, my $pass, my $uid ) = getpwent() ) {
if ( $uid >= $old_start && $uid < $new_start ) {
$fix_uids{$uid} = 1;
my $new_uid = $uid + $delta;
my $cmd = "/usr/sbin/usermod --uid $new_uid -o $name";
&do_command($cmd);
}
if ( ( $uid >= $new_start ) && $uid < ( $new_start + $delta ) ) {
$fix_uids{ $uid - $delta } = 1;
}
}
print "\n-- update group database ---\n\n";
# get group info
while ( ( my $name, my $passwd, my $gid ) = getgrent() ) {
if ( $gid >= $old_start && $gid < $new_start ) {
$fix_gids{$gid} = 1;
my $new_gid = $gid + $delta;
my $cmd = "/usr/sbin/groupmod --gid $new_gid -o $name";
&do_command($cmd);
}
if ( ( $gid >= $new_start ) && $gid < ( $new_start + $delta ) ) {
$fix_gids{ $gid - $delta } = 1;
}
}
if ( !$foundonly ) {
foreach my $num ( $old_start .. $max_old_id ) {
$fix_uids{$num} = 1;
$fix_gids{$num} = 1;
}
}
print "\n-- update file uid info \n\n";
foreach my $orig_uid ( sort keys %fix_uids ) {
my $new_uid = $orig_uid + $delta;
&do_command( "/bin/find $start_at -uid "
. $orig_uid
. " -print0 | xargs -0 chown "
. $new_uid );
}
print "\n-- update file gid info \n\n";
foreach my $orig_gid ( sort keys %fix_gids ) {
my $new_gid = $orig_gid + $delta;
&do_command( "/bin/find $start_at -gid "
. $orig_gid
. " -print0 | xargs -0 chgrp "
. $new_gid );
}
print "\n-- update NIS database -\n\n";
&do_command("cd /var/yp/; make");
print "\n-- done \n\n";
if ( !$write ) {
print "NO CHANGES were actually made.\n";
print "To actually execute the above commands, run:\n";
print "$0 --write\n\n";
}
sub do_command {
my $arg = $_[0];
print $arg . "\n";
if ($write) {
print `$arg` . "\n";
}
}
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Re: Fedora 16 instabilities
I'm wondering if it was pushed into Fedora too soon. Of course, Fedora's a test-bed for new things, but I'm not sure systemd was ready for such a wide-spread beta test. If anybody happens to have a link to an explanation of what's so much better about systemd I'd be glad to follow it and learn, but it's not urgent enough for me to go hunting and weeding out all of the blind leads. http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/why.html summarizes it pretty well. I found the old style of unit scripts to be a pain in the ass. I'm not sure why people think it was so great. And "systemd-analyze plot > plot.svg; eog plot.svg" is the best tool ever... - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 16 instabilities
- Changing UID's to start at 1000 instead of 500 is just annoying. Yes it is, but that's easily fixed with a one-time script. I can send you a sample perl script if you need one. - With earlier kernels, skype was merely unreliable, sometimes with no microphone, sometimes no sound, sometimes no video. The popup that announces an incoming call fails to appear - sometimes. Despite its non-open status, skype is a critical utility. Some way must be found to support it so it is reliable. Making changes to the kernel that destroy it is not acceptable. Shrug. It's closed source, how can kernel developers possibly support it? If it's closed, only Skype can fix Skype problems, no matter how critical you feel it is... - Some programs fail at random, unpredictible and unrepeatable times. Qtstalker occasionally simply stops working. It's window can be deleted, but a zombie remains. ... - Libreoffice insists on making files inaccessible via nfs. A workaround is to edit /usr/lib64/libreoffice/program/soffice to comment out these two lines: ## SAL_ENABLE_FILE_LOCKING=1 ## export SAL_ENABLE_FILE_LOCKING but this must be redone whenever a new update comes along. That's been an issue for a long time, well before F16 - are you using nfsv3? I think open/libre-office work directly with nfsv4 (could be wrong). However, I found nfsv4 to be unusable as a home-folder-server in F16 - it was a huge source of instability. gluster is problematic too in F16. I've settled on moosefs as a file server. It works extremely well with F15 and F16 clients. Life with Fedora is all about bleeding-edge surprises... - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Openvpn under Fedora-16
On 01/06/2012 09:02 AM, Louis Lagendijk wrote: ln -s /lib/systemd/system/openvpn\@.service \ /etc/systemd/system/openvpn\@client.service This is incorrect: you will have to provide the name of the configuration to start as part of the service name See myprevious mail: openvpn@myconfig.service What? The original poster's config file is "client.conf", so the command that I gave above IS correct (it has "client" in it): ln -s /lib/systemd/system/openvpn\@.service \ /etc/systemd/system/openvpn\@client.service - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Openvpn under Fedora-16
On 01/05/2012 07:10 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: I can start openvpn with [tim@blanche ~]$ sudo systemctl start openvpn@client.service (My openvpn config file is /etc/openvpn/client.conf , which I think is more or less standard.) But I don't know how to turn it on permanently, eg I get [tim@blanche ~]$ sudo systemctl enable openvpn@client.service Failed to issue method call: No such file or directory The whole thing seems to me extraordinarily badly documented, even by Linux standards. Or is it a bug? It is an oddity that isn't handled well by systemd (yet?). For permanent autostart, you need to create a link manually, like this: ln -s /lib/systemd/system/openvpn\@.service \ /etc/systemd/system/openvpn\@client.service Read about it here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=744244 http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?p=1538624 - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: 2 Thunderbird problems. Filters and S-L-O-W downloading.
On 12/15/2011 10:25 AM, linux guy wrote: Thunderbird is working OK, but I have 2 issues. 1. It is taking forever to download the emails from one of my gmail accounts. When I Get Mail on that account, it comes back saying a You can configure TB to only download messages when required. Disable: Edit > Acct Settings > Some Acct > Sync & Storage > Keep Messages on this Computer That will reduce the download requirements, which may or may not be what you want. - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Big email mess ! How do I clean it up ? (Evolution, Thunderbird, maildir, mbox)
I have several thousand maildir emails in about 10 directories in Evolution. I need to get them into existing directories in Thunderbird which uses mbox format. Why don't you keep the maildirs, and serve them up through IMAP using dovecot? Then any decent email client can access them, locally or remotely. No conversion needed. Thunderbird handles IMAP just fine; I use it that way. - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Xerox printer driver installation and related problem
>>> I tried to install the driver downloaded from xerox official website. >>> When i run the command ./xpadmin and setup accordingly and give >>> a test-run; the xerox workcentre 7242 gives somes response, make >>> sound but do not print. I have also setup user account in the setting. >> >> I got this printer working with this driver: "Generic PCL 5c Printer >> Foomatic/hpijs-pcl5c" I'm using a WorkCentre 7120 with the "Generic PCL 6/PCL XL Printer Foomatic/pxlcolor" driver. Seems to work fine. - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F16 and gnome 3.2
On 12/07/2011 09:27 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > As I said somewhere else I have an Intel chip which worked with F15 and > Gnome 3 but does not work with F16 and Gnome 3.2/ Does your /etc/default/grub file have "nomodeset" in it? More details here: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-November/408334.html - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Adventures with Gnome 3.2 fallback
On 11/24/2011 09:59 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > I assume you mean changing the line: > GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="nomodeset rd.md=0 rd.lvm=0 rd.dm=0 KEYTABLE=us > quiet SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 rhgb rd.luks=0 LANG=en_US.UTF-8" > > to: > GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="rd.md=0 rd.lvm=0 rd.dm=0 KEYTABLE=us quiet > SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 rhgb rd.luks=0 LANG=en_US.UTF-8" > > When I do that the system will not boot. If I am wrong about the change > let me know. Yes, that's what I meant. Unfortunately, it seems your system needs "nomodeset" to boot - I guess the installer detected that and put it there on purpose. (On my systems, it was put there, but it wasn't actually needed.) If you want the main gnome-shell mode, you need: 1) A better video driver. or 2) A different video card. or 3) Wait for F17, which is supposed to run gnome-shell on a wider range of video cards - but the performance might be poor. - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Adventures with Gnome 3.2 fallback
On 11/23/2011 05:07 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > My luck was that Gnome3.2 could not fully work on my system so I was > going to be put in fallback mode (I think that is what it is called) By > the way can anyone point me to what lack of resources causes that to > happen? Check your /etc/default/grub file, and make sure that "nomodeset" is not in it. I found this was in some of my /etc/default/grub files, because I had selected a basic text upgrade mode when running anaconda. This made the upgrades run faster, but it disabled the fancy graphics modes than gnome-shell needs. If it is there, try removing the "nomodeset" clause and regenerate your grub files by running: grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Gnome Shell periodically locks up hard in F16
On 11/19/2011 12:36 AM, Deron Meranda wrote: > (Oops, I originally sent this to the wrong list address ... sorry if > anybody sees duplicates) > > Since upgrading to Fedora 16, I have experienced several periodic hard > lock-ups of the Gnome Shell session. I never experienced such > behaviour in F15. I am wondering if anybody else is seeing something > similar or may have advice, or can suggest a better way for me to > gather useful debugging information should it happen again. Are your home folders nfs-mounted? - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: enabling gnome-shell extensions system-wide?
> I don't know how to enable that system wide but I would like to know > what the gsettings command is to enable a shell extension. Would you > mind sharing that info? Details here: http://fusionlinux.org/2011/11/07/installing-and-enabling-gnome-shell-3-2-extensions/ - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
enabling gnome-shell extensions system-wide?
It seems that gnome-shell extensions are not enabled by default in gnome-shell 3.2, even if you install the appropriate rpm. Is there a command-line method of enabling all installed extensions for all users? It's a bit cumbersome to run gsettings commands for every user on every system, or similarly use gnome-tweak-tool. A system-wide switch would be helpful. - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora 15: a NFSv4 to glusterfs migration HOW-TO
On 10/06/2011 06:02 AM, Jan Engelhardt wrote: > >> 3. On the server, edit the volume configuration file >> (/etc/glusterfs/glusterfsd.vol) so that it looks like this: >> >> volume raw >>type storage/posix >>option directory /fileserver >> end-volume >> [...] > > Hm, the setup of volumes is very different from what is done in the > Gluster Administration Guide. The latter does not touch plain files at > all but consistently uses the gluster CLI. There is no need to deal with > "volume raw", "volume brick" or so, and above all there is no > modification to glusterfsd.vol. > Why the deviation? It's simple; it works. I was following various recipes collected from the web. Also, I had a problem starting the management service (which provides the CLI functionality), so I couldn't use the CLI tools. I don't recall the exact problem now. I guess you can configure things "statically" from the config files, or "dynamically" from the CLI. I like the config file approach, personally. - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users
On 09/28/2011 02:26 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: >> But its seems like a lot of people would like Gnome2 back. Why doesn't >> someone, >> who has a problem with it just rebuild and release Gnome2 for F15 (with a >> different package name) ? > > Apparently it is already being done (sorry, forgot the new name of the > fork). However, AFAIK, it is far from straightforward to "rebuild and > release" it. A usable fork of gnome2 will NEVER happen. People who think it will have no idea of the size of the gnome project and related gtk-based projects. Are they going to set up new source code repos? A new bugzilla? New translation teams? A new release team? A new set of core developers actually adding new code? Will other gtk-based projects (like my serial terminal program, moserial) release gtk2 and gtk3 variants? However, gnome-shell is heavily customizable through extensions. If people want a gnome2-ish experience, they would be better off writing extensions to mimic the gnome2 experience. Some already exist, of course. I personally like gnome-shell. I can only conclude that people who don't are bad people. People who kill kittens. Shame on you! - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora14: Very very slow NFS write performance
On 09/26/2011 04:46 PM, Terry Barnaby wrote: > Thanks for the info. Might try that, but I still need NFS for other systems > and having used it for almost 30 years am a bit used to it ! glusterfs and nfs mix nicely - you can use the native glusterfs client (I do), or you can use an nfs client to access the glusterfs server. You can export a folder using both an nfs server and a glusterfs server at the same time, which is nice for a gradual migration. > mounting /home and /data). The only real issue has been performance over > an OpenVPN connection over ADSL, but that is not too surprising > (although an ls -l takes > significantly longer that it really should) and this performance issue > when writing multiple files. I use glusterfs over openvpn + cable modem, and it seems much more responsive than nfs ever was (judged using "ls -l"). But I haven't benchmarked it objectively. > Does gluserfs support client side file and attribute caching > (cachefilesd is used with NFS) ? I'm not sure about that... Anyway... it sure solved a lot of stability problems for me. glusterfs deserves to be better known as a reasonable NFS alternative. - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora14: Very very slow NFS write performance
On 09/25/2011 05:45 AM, Terry Barnaby wrote: > Anyone know why the NFS write performance with Fedora14 may be slow (without > async) ? > I have Gigabit networking which is all working fine and the systems in > question > have been running Fedora in various forms for many years. I found NFSv4 to be completely unusable on my F14 systems. I could never figure out where the problem was. It was unusable on my F14 clients when I had a F13 server, and once I upgraded the server to F14, my F13 clients became unusable... In desperation, I had to move to glusterfs, which fixed all my problems: http://www.mail-archive.com/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/msg40298.html I've been very happy with it since the forced migration! It has a lot fewer oddities than NFS, and it handles sqlite/firefox file-locking just fine, unlike some (all?) NFS variants. - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Need help with a feature request
On 09/21/2011 04:34 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > I'm retired, and I'd like to have Gnucash record my Social Security > payments (direct deposit) automatically. I'm glad you were able to > throw money at your issue and that you understand that not everybody can > afford that. Fair enough. I'm just trying to get people to realize there are ways to help FOSS projects along, even if they don't have great coding skills themselves ... The number of active contributors to projects like gnucash or gthumb is smaller than you might think, which isn't good. - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Need help with a feature request
>> money-wise. (An example: 5 years ago, I wanted gThumb to be able to >> print the full path and filename under a printed photo. $200 got me the >> patch I needed, and I submitted it for inclusion in gThumb. > > How/where do I select that feature in gthumb? I don't see it in > the menus. In current gThumb versions, this is in the "Captions" section of the "Images" tab of the print dialog. Enable the "Full name" checkbox. - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Need help with a feature request
On 09/21/2011 04:03 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > Back in August, I filed a feature request on Gnucash, pointing out that > it's not possible to schedule a transaction for the third Wednesday of > every month, or anything similar: > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=656316 > > I've just gotten the first response to it, and that's a comment that a > previous request for an enhancement of this nature was closed as > WONTFIX. Well, the developers did say they liked the idea, but they didn't have time to work on it... I've run into similar frustrations, but I've had good experiences hiring coders on www.vworker.com to develop patches for not-that-much money-wise. (An example: 5 years ago, I wanted gThumb to be able to print the full path and filename under a printed photo. $200 got me the patch I needed, and I submitted it for inclusion in gThumb. It was accepted. Another $200 got a redeye-removal tool into gThumb.) This came out of a company software budget, which might not apply to you... but if it does, you might want to think about it. - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: DHCP or fixed IPs for servers ????
> Is there a way to statically assign the IP address to the servers and > not have to update the /etc/hosts file on all the machines ?� I know > this is what DNS is supposed to do, but I've never used it that way. If you don't want to use DNS, you can share /etc/hosts using NIS. Look in /etc/nsswitch.conf. I don't think it is any simpler than using DNS, however. You need to set up ypbind/ypserv... however, if you are using NIS to authenticate users already, then it is trivial. - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
keychain/ssh-agent problems
Hi all,
I've been using keychain and ssh-agent for years, but it somehow has
become flaky on F15.
I have this in .bash_profile:
keychain ~/.ssh/id_dsa
. ~/.keychain/${HOSTNAME}-sh
Normally this works fine, except when ssh-agent randomly seems to die,
like this:
[root@server2 ~]# su - webmaster
KeyChain 2.6.8; http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/keychain/
Copyright 2002-2004 Gentoo Foundation; Distributed under the GPL
* Found existing ssh-agent (13894)
* Found existing gpg-agent (13921)
* Adding 1 ssh key(s)...
Could not open a connection to your authentication agent.
* Error: Problem adding; giving up
[webmaster@server2 ~]$ kill 13894
Logging in again (to re-run keychain) works OK after that.
Any ideas what the issue might be?
- Mike
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Re: Fedora 15 is a lot like Windows OS's.. irritating, offensive, difficult to use with ease, nauseating to try...
On 09/02/2011 12:53 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > Joe Zeff wrote: > >> Since when has there been the slightest sign of the Gnome devs giving a >> rats ass about what mere users think? > > They care enormously about what the imaginary user they have > created thinks. Real users, not so much. They can always > imagine overwhelmingly greater numbers of imaginary users > than real users :-). Wow. I hope you guys are just as effusive with your praise to developers for software that you actually like... - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: R: Re: Var/log/messages file are empty
> [root@Acer antonio] > # systemctl enable syslog.service > Couldn't find syslog.service. systemctl enable rsyslog.service (add the "r") - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: GNOME 2 on Fedora 15
> I have FC15 on three machines with different hardware - different CPUs, > different graphics hardware. As installed, all three were kinda OK. > After recent updates all three now take about 5 seconds to change > windows. A warning box popping up is a minimum 10s activity - 5 seconds > to appear, and 5 to dismiss it. I find it hardware to believe I have > three special case machines which all hit the same obscure bug. How can > you call this a productive environment? Are you serving the user folders over NFS, by any chance? - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora 15: a NFSv4 to glusterfs migration HOW-TO
On 08/25/2011 08:59 AM, Marcos Luis Ortiz Valmaseda wrote: > Excellent how to Dr. > Can you add this to the Fedora wiki? If someone wants to stick it in an appropriate place on a Fedora wiki, please go ahead. I'll help maintain and edit it. - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Fedora 15: a NFSv4 to glusterfs migration HOW-TO
As detailed in another thread, we upgraded a few test machines on our LAN to Fedora 15 (with gnome-shell and firefox), with user folders served from a NFSv4 server (F14 originally, then F15). It just didn't work. The F15 desktops would freeze frequently. And worse, this would freeze ALL desktops on the LAN intermittently, as the NFS server struggled with client flakiness. When it did work, Firefox would lose authenticated logins randomly, presumably due to corruption of its cookies.sqlite file. sqlite and NFS seems to be a nightmare, for both NFSv3 and NFSv4. Moving from a NFSv4 server to a glusterfs server solved all of these problems, and sped up boot times significantly too. glusterfs looks intimidating at first, because of all its fancy replicating features and what-not, but it turns out to be trivially easy to set up a simple server than will replace 95% of the NFS installations out there. Luckily, you can easily point both the NFS daemon and the glusterfs daemon at the same export folder, so you can migrate clients slowly over time. This HOW-TO is intended to document the process. There are other similar HOW-TOs out there, but they are all a little out-of-date or don't show how to enable locking correctly, which is critical for Firefox. In this example, we export the server's /fileserver folder, and mount it on /fileserver on the clients. In my server, /fileserver was already being served by the NFSv4 server, which is fine. 1. On the server: - yum install glusterfs-server 2. On each client: - yum install glusterfs-fuse - mkdir /etc/glusterfs/ - mkdir /fileserver 3. On the server, edit the volume configuration file (/etc/glusterfs/glusterfsd.vol) so that it looks like this: volume raw type storage/posix option directory /fileserver end-volume volume brick type features/posix-locks subvolumes raw end-volume volume server type protocol/server option transport-type tcp subvolumes brick option auth.addr.brick.allow * end-volume The first stanza selects the basic folder to export. The second stanza adds file locking to it. This is required to support Firefox, and some other applications. The third stanza authorizes everyone to access this file-locked export over the network. There is also a /etc/glusterfs/glusterfsd.vol file on the system, for configuring the management interface. For this simple installation it does not need to be modified. 4. Restart the server services: - service glusterd restart - service glusterfsd restart I believe the first service is a management service, and the second is the actual file-export service. 5. On the client, create the /etc/glusterfs/glusterfs.vol configuration file, which should look like this: volume client type protocol/client option transport-type tcp option remote-host 192.168.0.3 # use YOUR server IP here option remote-subvolume brick end-volume 6. On the client, add this line to the end of /etc/rc.d/rc.local: mount -t glusterfs /etc/glusterfs/glusterfs.vol /fileserver 7. On the client, reboot, and check /var/log/messages for errors. On one machine, we had an selinux problem that was flagged in the logs. We had to manually create the logging file using: touch /var/log/glusterfs/fileserver.log; reboot 8. On the client, see if you can access the files in /fileserver. If not, read the /var/log/glusterfs/* files on both the client and the server. At this point, everything should work! Weird things and gotchas: A. You need the file-locking option to make Firefox work properly. B. LibreOffice wouldn't start on one system, until we did: rm ~/.libreoffice rm ~/.openoffice.org C. selinux prevented the creation of log files on one client, which prevented the filesystem from mouting. The manual fix noted above fixed that. D. This HOWTO mounts the glusterfs from /etc/rc.d/rc.local, which is the last step in the boot process. In theory, you can mount it from /etc/fstab or using autofs. However, we found that autofs mounting just didn't work - not sure why. fstab mounting didn't work either - I suspect it occurred too early in the boot process. /etc needs to be up and running so glusterfs can read the config file, and I don't think the current init/systemd files handle this correctly. There are some Debian bug reports about this that you can google. I hope this is useful to someone, and that we can finally drive a stake through the heart of NFS... - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fed
Re: [SOLVED] gnome-shell + nfsv4 = problems?!
On 08/22/2011 02:46 PM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: > Hi all, > > I've been testing F15/gnome-shell on my desktop, and it works great... > except when I install it on a second user's desktop, everything slows to > a crawl, sometimes freezing the shells altogether. I can tell when > another gnome-shell system is in use, because mine freezes! OK, gnome-shell + firefox + nfsv4 = JUST DOESN'T WORK. I switched to glusterfs, and with a few tweaks, it rocks! (Tweaks = need "features/posix-locks" in glusterfsd configs, and do the client mounts in /etc/rc.d/rc.local, and not in /etc/fstab.) My firefox freezes are gone. Firefox has stopped losing my authenticated sessions (cookies.sqlite). The system boots much faster. I hope this helps others in a similar situation! - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: gnome-shell + nfsv4 = problems?!
> I've been testing F15/gnome-shell on my desktop, and it works great... > except when I install it on a second user's desktop, everything slows to > a crawl, sometimes freezing the shells altogether. I can tell when > another gnome-shell system is in use, because mine freezes! > > All users have nfsv4-mounted home folders on an F15 server. The systems > are acting like network problems are happening. If I Ctrl+F2 to a text > console, the local system is responsive, but directory listings of > remote folders are sluggish. Maybe I should re-phrase the question... Does anyone have a working network of multiple simultaneous users running gnome-shell and firefox, served from home folders on a nfsv4 server (all F15)? - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: gnome-shell + nfsv4 = problems?!
> I've been testing F15/gnome-shell on my desktop, and it works great... > except when I install it on a second user's desktop, everything slows to > a crawl, sometimes freezing the shells altogether. I can tell when > another gnome-shell system is in use, because mine freezes! > > All users have nfsv4-mounted home folders on an F15 server. The systems > are acting like network problems are happening. If I Ctrl+F2 to a text > console, the local system is responsive, but directory listings of > remote folders are sluggish. > > I don't see useful info in the logs. Well now I do: Aug 22 15:16:55 xena kernel: [ 9303.608663] nfs4_reclaim_open_state: Lock reclaim failed! Aug 22 15:17:05 xena kernel: [ 9313.465224] nfs4_reclaim_open_state: Lock reclaim failed! Aug 22 15:17:05 xena kernel: [ 9313.466475] NFS: v4 server returned a bad sequence-id error on an unconfirmed sequence 8801539f1420! Aug 22 15:17:05 xena kernel: [ 9313.467178] nfs4_reclaim_open_state: unhandled error -10026. Zeroing state Aug 22 15:17:05 xena kernel: [ 9313.467800] NFS: v4 server returned a bad sequence-id error on an unconfirmed sequence 8801129c3e20! Aug 22 15:17:05 xena kernel: [ 9313.468429] nfs4_reclaim_open_state: unhandled error -10026. Zeroing state Aug 22 15:17:05 xena kernel: [ 9313.469037] NFS: v4 server returned a bad sequence-id error on an unconfirmed sequence 8801129c2420! Aug 22 15:17:05 xena kernel: [ 9313.469663] nfs4_reclaim_open_state: unhandled error -10026. Zeroing state Aug 22 15:17:05 xena kernel: [ 9313.470814] nfs4_reclaim_open_state: unhandled error -10026. Zeroing state Aug 22 15:17:05 xena kernel: [ 9313.471429] nfs4_reclaim_open_state: unhandled error -10026. Zeroing state Does that mean anything to anyone? - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: gnome-shell + nfsv4 = problems?!
On 08/22/2011 03:48 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: >> Any bug reports on NFS issues? > > I've never made any bug reports since I don't actually need to use > it that way, I've just noticed the probably when I accidentally > signed on as the wrong user sometimes. > > A bit of searching shows this: > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=596176 I have "no_root_squash" on the nfsv4 server, so it isn't that bug... but thanks for the pointer anyway. - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: gnome-shell + nfsv4 = problems?!
On 08/22/2011 03:20 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: >> Anybody heard of something similar? > > I'm surprised you are merely slow. I can't get gnome to come > up at all on an NFS mounted home. I've always suspected the > annoying gnome filesystem bilge and the special fuse filesystem > mountpoint it tries to put in ~. Any bug reports on NFS issues? - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
gnome-shell + nfsv4 = problems?!
Hi all, I've been testing F15/gnome-shell on my desktop, and it works great... except when I install it on a second user's desktop, everything slows to a crawl, sometimes freezing the shells altogether. I can tell when another gnome-shell system is in use, because mine freezes! All users have nfsv4-mounted home folders on an F15 server. The systems are acting like network problems are happening. If I Ctrl+F2 to a text console, the local system is responsive, but directory listings of remote folders are sluggish. I don't see useful info in the logs. However, ifconfig DOES show dropped RX packets on both systems, as well as the server. All systems use the e1000e driver. The systems are connected through a variety of switches, so I don't think it is a switch issue. The F14 systems seem to work OK. Anybody heard of something similar? - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora15 with kvm and spice
>> Is there any documentation on how to properly configure fc15 to use >> this? Is spice similar to VNC, in that it provides the remote >> emulation and screen updates? >> >> Is there something that needs to be done to modify qemu to work with spice? >> >> I'm currently using the "vga" driver and performance is just horrible. >> What is the proper way to get more reasonable video performance on a >> win7 guest? >> >> Any ideas greatly appreciated. I have a couple of F15 desktops running Windows XP guests. I start them using root cron: @reboot sleep 30; /usr/bin/qemu-kvm -hda /var/lib/libvirt/images/MikeWindows.img -usbdevice tablet -m 2048 -k en-us -vga qxl -spice port=5930,disable-ticketing & I found this was simpler than relying on virt-manager, especially when you want to move images to new machines. Spice is a dramatic improvement over the older vnc-based methods. I love it... - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Growing frustration with Gnome Shell
On 08/11/2011 01:10 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> Maybe try another video card (one that uses a different driver) > > it is simply UNACCEPTABLE writing a linux-desktop where you have > troubles with most video cards. there are enough of them where Luckily, gnome-shell works with most video cards, so you don't have to rewrite the linux desktop. However, if you have more than a few desktops to maintain, it's usually worthwhile have spare video cards (and spare network cards) around. Fedora has the cutting-edge drivers. "Cutting edge" isn't the same as "works every time"... - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Growing frustration with Gnome Shell
On 08/11/2011 12:44 PM, Steven Stern wrote: > I've been using Gnome Shell since the alphas of F15 and I keep hoping > that a few things get fixed. I don't know if they're general problems > or widespread. I've make a point of putting things in Bugzilla. But, my > problems are not going away. Maybe try another video card (one that uses a different driver). I haven't experienced ANY crashes of gnome-shell, on 3 test desktops, so a stable system is possible. - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Paradigm shift going from Gnome2 to Gnome3
> BTW, I've been using linux as my primary desktop for over 10 years. > Gnome3 is ill suited to the work I have to do. Can someone explain to > me the advantage of not being able to minimize an application ? It's > not workable. You can still minimize apps - right-click on the title bar, and click "minimize". (Or use the tweak tool to re-enable the buttons.) However, I use the mouse-swoosh to switch between active windows. It is quite workable, for me, and after a while it seems quite natural. I don't find that it takes any more effort than gnome2-style minimizing and panel-clicking - less, actually. But, use whatever works for you! - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: No Minimize Button
> Also the other need for minimisation to prevent someone seeing what > you're working on is not at all addressed. Possiblities: work > involving confidential information, buying presents, demonstrating to > someone that you're giving them your attention/stopping windows > distracting people during conversaitons. While there's no longer a > panel that things get minimised to, the 'minimise' button is > effectively a hide-window operation that has several roles that aren't > really provided in Gnome3. Unless you put it back of course. You can also right-click on the title bar, and minimize is the first choice. It's "almost" as easy as a dedicated button, once you're aware of it. - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: No Minimize Button
>> But the long and short of it is, if you want the buttons (and more) >> back, just install gnome-tweak-tool and pick the right options to >> re-enable them. ... >> >> I've been using the list archives for almost >> all my troubleshooting.� I am very interested >> in seeing that discussion, but I have not >> been able to find it yet.� Still looking. >> From my perspective I can't imagine anybody >> thinking that is a good idea. I originally thought omitting the minimize button was crazy, but after using gnome3 for a month or so, I don't miss it at all. gnome3 has a different way of doing things; give it time. If you can "swoosh" into the activities area to rapidly select a different window, having a minimize button doesn't really make sense (or at least, it is redundant - and gnome has always opted for simplification over extra flexibility). I also originally hated the default fonts, but I like them now - but I had to enable "Large Text" in the Accessibility button at the top. I'm not sure about the task-switching method, though. I'm having a hard time using the alt+tab / alt+backtick combo naturally. I think it could be improved. My 2 cents. - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Text gets chapped off on top.
On 07/06/2011 03:20 PM, Vinny Onelli wrote: > Hi, > Installed f15 gnome, and since then periodically while using a portion > of text gets chapped off on top. I waited while thanking that it may be > correct through update, but I ham not sure if this problem is know. I > found that I need to reboot in order to correct it. > Any one know how to correct it?. I see text corruption in gnome-shell too, sometimes. I'm not aware of a fix or bug report, though... - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Blinking cursor after reboot with Preupgrade
Richard Shaw wrote: > Since I know I don't have enough ram to do a fresh install I'm trying > to upgrade my old EEEPC 701 from F13 to F15 via Preupgrade. I ran > preupgrade-cli from runlevel 3 to maximize the amount of ram available > at everything appears to run fine prior to the reboot. > > When I try to run the upgrade from GRUB upon reboot nothing happens. I > just get a blinking cursor in the upper left and it sits with no disk > activity. > > Choosing the previous Kernel from GRUB and it boots up fine to F13. > > Any ideas? Wait. Maybe for an hour, or overnight if you can. I gave up on some upgrades, before I realized that the blinking-cursor screen does disappear after ~ 5 minutes (for me), and the upgrade continues just fine. Others have reported longer delays. - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: frozen gnome 3 desktop
>>> After upgraded to fedora 15, most are working well. The gnome 3 >>> desktop are weired. It frequently freeze, not responding to mouse or >>> keyboard. I have to login a virtual term (alt+ctrl+F2) to restart gdm >>> (init 3; init 5). I checked Xorg.0.log file and output of dmesg, I >>> can't spot any hint. >>> >>> Any one experienced this or where is find a fix? thanks I've done 2 desktop upgrades. One worked fine. One had the problems you described (frequent freezes), so I had to downgrade it back to F14. Three server upgrades have gone well, but they don't have gnome3, of course. Not very helpful, but another data point anyway... - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: howto read from serial port?
On 06/20/2011 11:45 AM, Mike Wright wrote: > Hi all, > > This sure feels like a blast from the past :) > > I'm trying to figure out how to use com ports to communicate between two > fedora boxes. I don't know how to do that at the command line, but you could try using moserial instead. http://live.gnome.org/moserial - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: systemd discussion
On 06/15/2011 06:06 PM, JB wrote: > > I am also surprised (have been for long time) by seeing Linux projects > violating > UNIX principles of software development. Linux isn't Unix. It sounds like you'd be happier running, er, Unix - or a BSD - rather than a Linux distro that is considered to be the most cutting-edge one available. > In this particular context, I am disappointed that they, apparently, lack > oversight by management, starting with the design phase. Management? Who's that? FOSS "management" mostly falls to the developers, since they're doing the work. But regardless who you choose to identify as management, you'll probably find that they've been very supportive of systemd, mostly because it solves lots of real-world problems in an elegant way. Sure, there have been glitches (and squabbles about timing - systemd punted from F14), but again, this is a running-with-scissors distro. Personally, I'm hugely impressed with the sped-up boot and shutdown times, and the detailed reporting (did something fail?) provided by systemctl. Fedora is lucky to have flame-proof developers like LP who aren't afraid to try something new... - Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
