Re: emacs is hopeless

[George Avrunin]

On 11/12/23 13:19, Ranjan Maitra via users wrote:

> Thank you for this: downgrading emacs for me to 28.3 (F38) gets rid of
> the problem that I was having, and that is, that emacs 29.1 can not load
> a file for me (without emacs -Q).
> 
> With emacs -Q in 29.1 (F39), I can load the file all right, but I do not
> have the correct fonts, and I can not seem to load those.
> 
> I wonder why emacs users have not reported my issue with 29.1 on the emacs
> mailing list.
> 
> Best wishes,
> Ranjan
> 

As a data point, Emacs 29.1 (from emacs-29.1-2.fc39.x86_64) in Fedora 39
is working fine for me.  I had to upgrade a couple of the elisp packages
I use and it seems that the very old auto-insert-tkld package that I've
used for a long time doesn't work anymore, though I did get some
semi-informative error messages.  (For the moment, I've just taken the
auto-insert-tkld stuff out of my .emacs; maybe I'll try to figure that
out later when I have more time, or set up one of the alternatives.)
"emacs -q" worked without problems from the beginning.

Since I'm using Wayland, I had to install wl-clipboard and add some code
in .emacs to get paste with the middle mouse button into emacs to work
(per the Emacs Wiki: https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/CopyAndPaste).  But
everything else I've tried seems to work fine, including AUCTeX, both
with opening new files and editing existing ones.

I'm using KDE with an NVidia card and the driver from rpmfusion on my
desktop and KDE with Intel video on a Dell laptop, also in Fedora 39.
Emacs is ok on both machines.  I haven't tried it in X.

  George

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Re: recommendations, pros/cons for Fedora mail clients supporting OAUTH2 with GMail?

[George Avrunin]

On Mon, 20 Jun 2022 22:51:48 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

> I have a Google Workplace, formerly G Suite, account run by my former
> university (I'm now retired) and access it via Evolution, which does
> fully support OAUTH2.
> 
> poc

That's good to know, thanks.

  George

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Re: recommendations, pros/cons for Fedora mail clients supporting OAUTH2 with GMail?

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On Mon, 20 Jun 2022 14:47:44 -0500, Gabriel Ramirez wrote:

> In june gmail turn off the legacy password access via pop3 in my account,
> 
> but I found turning on 2-step verification in the security section of my 
> gmail account, enabled the app password option, a 16 character password 
> to use instead of the legacy password in my getmail's pop3 download
> 
> thunderbird seems to know how to setup it oauth2 to sending mails via
> gmail
> 
> regards,
> 
> Gabriel  

Thanks.  Unfortunately, my university GMail account is part of GSuites, or
whatever they're calling it now, and even though I can create an app
password, it won't work for logging in to read mail.  This seems to be a
campus-wide setting that the university IT people have made.  They are
requiring OAUTH2, which uses the campus authentication system, so I won't
be able to get claws-mail to work with my university account even with
2-step verification and an app password.

As I mentioned, I can make thunderbird work, but the last time I used it,
I didn't like it very much.  So I was wondering what people think about it
now or what other suggestions people have.  

  George


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Re: recommendations, pros/cons for Fedora mail clients supporting OAUTH2 with GMail?

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On Mon, 20 Jun 2022 15:17:40 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:

> I've always used fetchmail to download all mail from all my accounts
> and stuff it in a local IMAP server for me to read with whatever
> client I like (currently using claws-mail and dovecot as the server).
> That gets me as isolated from silly requirements of "helpful" IT
> departments as possible.
> 
> Unfortunately, I've been waiting years for fetchmail to officially
> support oauth2 (coming soon :-) so I can get google to stop complaining
> about my "insecure" use of IMAP in my gmail account. Maybe it is possible
> to build a beta version of fetchmail 7 that talks oauth2?
> 
> Pointers to possible fetchmail solution here:
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1890076


Thanks.  Aside from having to build a beta, I think that would probably
violate the (expected) policy against moving the mail to another server.
As I understand it, this is mostly based on concerns about student personal
information (covered by the FERPA law, etc.), and I'm probably only going
to teach one more course this fall before being more fully retired.  So
maybe I could get away with it briefly, or at worst wait it out until
December with Thunderbird or something and then use fetchmail this way.
;-) This kind of approach is certainly very tempting if it can be made to
work.

  George

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recommendations, pros/cons for Fedora mail clients supporting OAUTH2 with GMail?

[George Avrunin]

Since the late 1980s when I set up our department Research Computing
Facility, my department has managed its own email servers.  We now have
extremely competent staff (not me!) who do great work dealing with spam,
phishing, etc., and I get much less spam on my math department account
than I do on, say, my account in the CS department, which uses a
commercial spam blocking service. But recently the pressure from
University IT to let them run all mail has increased to the point where
we're basically being forced to shut down our own mail servers and use
theirs, effective around the end of this month.  I do need to continue to
access my university email, both for reading and sending through the
university's servers.

The university has decided not to allow any access to mail except
through Outlook and GMail, where authentication goes through the campus
2FA process, etc.  The university IT people would much prefer that all
faculty and administrators use Outlook (they've generally tried to
outsource as much to Microsoft as they can, especially things with any
security implications--this gives you an idea where they're coming from),
but there's an option for GMail which almost all of our faculty have
chosen. But at least the GMail version requires support for OAUTH2.
According to the university IT people, the only options for accessing our
university mail on GMail without using Windows or Mac OSs will be the web
interface and the Android and IOS GMail apps. They do admit that
Thunderbird works, but they say it's "unsupported and may not continue to
work".

At present, I forward my university email to a department-supported machine
in my office running Fedora, where I run dovecot. I access mail from
various devices with IMAP, mostly using claws-mail on the Linux boxes
(where I mostly run Fedora with KDE) and FairEmail on Android. It looks
like they're going to make it harder (and probably officially forbidden) to
forward mail routinely. I also use claws-mail to read my personal GMail
account (which I don't use much, but need for some purposes), with an app
password on some machines and OAUTH2 on my main desktop.  But using OAUTH2
currently requires setting up claws-mail as a personal development project
(in what Google calls the "testing" phase; the claws-mail code is not
"approved" by Google for "production") and regenerating the authentication
token once a week. I'd be happy to continue doing that and using
claws-mail, but it seems that my university account is locked out of both
app passwords and setting up a project.  As far as I can tell, I won't be
able to continue to use claws-mail for my university email, at least
without forwarding it in explicit violation of policy.

I have made sure that Thunderbird can connect to my university account,
despite the dire warnings from the university IT people.  (And FairEmail
also seems to work fine for this on Android.)  But the last time I tried
Thunderbird, admittedly a fair while ago, I wasn't very happy with
it--heavyweight, oriented toward HTML mail, opened too many links, etc. In
the distant past, I mostly used email within Emacs (rmail and then vm) and
I once looked at Evolution but again wasn't happy with how big it was and
how much it seemed to pull in. I generally have been pretty unhappy with
the web interfaces to email that I've tried, though I haven't spent much
time in the latest incarnation of GMail on the web. 

So I'm looking for other suggestions about what might work, including more
up-to-date views of Thunderbird, Evolution, etc. Thanks for any other ideas
or comments.

  George

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Re: "Restart is required" notification won't go away despite multiple restarts

[George Avrunin]

On Wed, 13 Oct 2021 15:24:13 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:

> try running
> 
> pkcon refresh force

I actually removed PackageKit, which stopped the notifications.  But I'll
keep this in mind in case it gets confused on another machine or I have
some reason to reinstall it on this laptop.  Thanks.

  George




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Re: "Restart is required" notification won't go away despite multiple restarts

[George Avrunin]

On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 07:48:10 -0700, stan via users wrote:

> > How do you do your system updates?  
> 
> From here,
> https://ask.fedoraproject.org/t/why-does-fedora-34-a-reboot-after-every-update/15226
> it seems that kde plasma is now replicating the gnome behavior.  You
> might be able to turn this off, and use direct dnf in a terminal
> or virtual console instead so you would not see this.  You would be
> trading off possible occasional update issues for not needing to reboot
> to update.

Thanks for your suggestions (here and in the previous message) I do the
updates with "sudo dnf upgrade" (with the needs-restarting plugin) in a
terminal, and I've certainly rebooted between the last time I did that,
but I still get the message.   But I think I do have packagekit running on
the laptop--I'll try to see if that's the source of the message.  But even
if it is, it's not noticing that the machine has been rebooted multiple
times.  

  George




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"Restart is required" notification won't go away despite multiple restarts

[George Avrunin]

I have a Dell XPS 13" with a 3840x2160 screen running a fully updated
Fedora 34 and use KDE with X, not Wayland. I believe this issue started
after I connected the computer to a projector with a much lower screen
resolution and had to fiddle with the display settings, though that could
be a coincidence. Since then, every time I start the computer, I get a blue
notification popup (like the ones saying the network interface is up) that
says 
  "(A) Restart is required.  The system needs to be restarted for the
  updates to take effect."

I have, of course, restarted (and powered down and restarted) the machine
multiple times.   I've even tried changing the main display resolution and
then changing it back.

I've done some web searching and looked in various places on the machine,
and haven't found anything about this.   If I click on the notification,
it goes away until the next time I start the laptop so it's only an
annoyance, but I'd like to get rid of the notification.  I'd be grateful
for any suggestions.

  George



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Re: machine suspending

[George Avrunin]

Following up here.  Based on the discussion on
systemd-de...@lists.freedesktop.org, it seems that this is due to gdm
which imposes some Gnome defaults, including setting the machine to
suspend after 20 minutes of inactivity (for some definition of
inactivity?).  

There's some discussion of this, starting 3 years ago but running through a
couple of months ago, at
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/-/issues/22
That discussion has a couple of suggestions for overriding this, but I
haven't tried them.  I switched to sddm and gsd-power is no longer running
when nobody is logged in (or when I'm logged in remotely or at the console
using KDE).  But I haven't lost the network connection since switching to
sddm, either.  




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Re: machine suspending

[George Avrunin]

On Thu, 12 Aug 2021 07:02:07 -0700, stan via users wrote:

> I recently had a sort of similar problem because the XFCE screen saver
> was active when I didn't have XFCE running.  Perhaps you have more than
> one screen saver, and the one you think isn't running is configured to
> do your unwanted action.

That's certainly possible.  The machine had just been rebooted and, as far
as I know, nobody was logged in at the console.  But, even though I'm using
kde, I'm running gdm (since at some point I had some problems with sddm)
and I see that gsd-power is running.  But I don't know how to check the
settings for gsd-power or change them.   Can anybody point me in the right
direction for this?

I don't think any other screen saver/power managers should be running (and
I don't see anything in the output of "ps -e" that suggests there are).  





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Re: machine suspending

[George Avrunin]

On Wed, 11 Aug 2021 21:37:27 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:

> Yep
> systemd-de...@lists.freedesktop.org

I did post there.  So far, one person says that on his machine (running Leap
15.3), it logs a lot of information when suspending or resuming and
another notes that he sees, for instance, "Lid closed" and "Suspending" in
the logs right before a line like the "hibernation is restricted" line I
see.  But everyone's suggestion is that it's coming from some setting to
suspend when there's no activity, though possibly referring to network
activity of some sort since it often has no activity at the console for
long periods without suspending and the suspend operation came when the
network switch was down.

I looked around (on the web and the machine) and I don't see where that
would be set.  The things I know I've set (e.g., in the KDE power
settings), tell it not to sleep when it's on AC power, which it was in
these cases. Are there some default power settings that I'm not finding?

Thanks,

  George



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Re: machine suspending

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On Mon, 9 Aug 2021 12:15:20 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:

> Yeah I have a bit of a gripe with systemd that it doesn't, by default,
> insert the sleep request in the log. What exactly requested it? User
> hit the power button? User closed the lid? Some service like apcuspd
> requested it? I dunno, seems like an obvious thing that needs to go in
> the log, one line. And for NetworkManager to be the first indication
> that S3 or s2idle was requested is not helpful at all, I see this too
> in cases when I close the lid or the GNOME Shell power save timeout is
> reached (screen dim or whatever it's called).
> 
> I don't know all the different ways sleep can be requested but we need
> the logs to indicate where this request is coming from. I don't know
> for sure but maybe you can boot with systemd.log_level=debug and get
> more detail, probably way too much detail because it's very verbose.
> But I'm not sure how to narrow it down. But either way, I think it's
> worth a thread on systemd-devel@ and ask if a single line of info
> about sleep being initiated can be dumped into the log by default?

Thanks.  I've asked our staff to let me know when they're going to replace
the switch so I can reboot with systemd.log_level=debug and I'll see if I
can get more information then.  

I assume "systemd-devel@" is the list at freedesktop.org?  As soon as I can
find a little time, I'll subscribe and start a thread there.

  George




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machine suspending

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My office workstation, a Dell Precision T1700 running Fedora 34 (mostly
KDE when I'm at the machine), has been suspending itself after a power
outage. This seems to be connected to a networking problem, but I don't
really understand what's going on or where to look.  It seems that the
system tries to put itself to sleep when it can't connect to the network.
I don't understand why this should happen, or what to do about it.  

On Friday, construction equipment cut the main power feed to our part of
campus and there was a roughly half-hour power outage.  I was working at
home, but reading mail on the office system.  The system currently has a
small APC UPS and is running apcupsd with pretty much the default
configuration. At 14:39:50, there are messages from apcupsd saying the
system is running on battery and a mail message to root saying the time
left on battery was 64.9 minutes with a 100 percent charge.   And at 14:44
the system started to suspend.  At about 15:11, it looks like the power
returned and the system brought itself back (though with some complaints
in the logs, like 
Failed to StopUnit service:
GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildExited: Process
org.freedesktop.systemd1 exited with status 1).  However, there were
network problem, both within our department network and at the connection
between the department and the campus backbone.  These were not resolved
until late the next day when the campus IT people finally responded and
reset that connection.  (Our department IT staff is a lot more responsive
and competent than the campus staff...).  But my machine was still not
reachable.

There seem to have also been problems with the switch where my machine
connects to the rest of the department network, and it looks like when my
machine couldn't connect to the network, it put itself to sleep again:
Aug 06 17:47:32 ext.math.umass.edu kernel: Lockdown: systemd-logind:
hibernation is restricted; see man kernel_lockdown.7
Aug 06 17:47:32 ext.math.umass.edu kernel: Lockdown: systemd-logind:
hibernation is restricted; see man kernel_lockdown.7
Aug 06 17:47:32 ext.math.umass.edu NetworkManager[2111]: 
[1628286452.1872] manager: sleep: sleep requested (sleeping: no  enabled: yes)
Aug 06 17:47:32 ext.math.umass.edu NetworkManager[2111]: 
[1628286452.1876] manager: NetworkManager state is now ASLEEP
Aug 06 17:47:32 ext.math.umass.edu ModemManager[1954]: 
[sleep-monitor] system is about to suspend
Aug 06 17:47:32 ext.math.umass.edu gnome-shell[4292]: Screen lock is
locked down, not locking
Aug 06 17:47:32 ext.math.umass.edu systemd[1]: Reached target Sleep.
Aug 06 17:47:32 ext.math.umass.edu systemd[1]: Starting System Suspend...
Aug 06 17:47:32 ext.math.umass.edu systemd-sleep[40504]: Suspending
system...
Aug 06 17:47:32 ext.math.umass.edu kernel: PM: suspend entry (deep)
Aug 07 14:09:22 ext.math.umass.edu kernel: Filesystems sync: 0.379 seconds
Aug 07 14:09:22 ext.math.umass.edu kernel: Freezing user space processes
... (elapsed 0.002 seconds) done.
Aug 07 14:09:22 ext.math.umass.edu kernel: OOM killer disabled.
Aug 07 14:09:22 ext.math.umass.edu kernel: Freezing remaining freezable
tasks ... (elapsed 0.001 seconds) done.
Aug 07 14:09:22 ext.math.umass.edu kernel: printk: Suspending console(s)
(use no_console_suspend to debug)
Aug 07 14:09:22 ext.math.umass.edu kernel: serial 00:06: disabled
Aug 07 14:09:22 ext.math.umass.edu kernel: e1000e: EEE TX LPI TIMER:
0011
Aug 07 14:09:22 ext.math.umass.edu kernel: sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Synchronizing
SCSI cache
Aug 07 14:09:22 ext.math.umass.edu kernel: sd 1:0:0:0: [sdb] Synchronizing
SCSI cache
Aug 07 14:09:22 ext.math.umass.edu kernel: sd 1:0:0:0: [sdb] Stopping disk
Aug 07 14:09:22 ext.math.umass.edu kernel: sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Stopping disk
Aug 07 14:09:22 ext.math.umass.edu kernel: PM: suspend devices took 1.031
seconds
Aug 07 14:09:22 ext.math.umass.edu kernel: ACPI: Preparing to enter system
sleep state S3
Aug 07 14:09:22 ext.math.umass.edu kernel: PM: Saving platform NVS memory
Aug 07 14:09:22 ext.math.umass.edu kernel: Disabling non-boot CPUs ...
lines 835-871
etc.

The staff rebooted the machine again, and the same thing happened.
Finally this morning, they rebooted both the switch and my machine, and
everything seems ok for now, although they are checking the switch and
will probably be replacing it.  But why should the machine suspend itself
when it can't connect to the switch?  This is pretty much the only Fedora
machine in the department and I mostly administer it (we're currently
severely understaffed), so I can't  just leave it to the staff to sort
things out.

I'd very much appreciate any help.

  George








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Re: Is Brave kicking you out too?

[George Avrunin]

On Wed, 2 Sep 2020 13:57:38 -0400, Temlakos wrote:

> I'm using KDE. Brave causes no problems except for breaking maybe one
> Web site in twenty or twenty-five. But that's not a Fedora or KDE problem.
> 
> Temlakos

Also on KDE, Fedora 32, brave-browser-1.13.82-1.x86_64.  No problem with
the URL ToddAndMargo asked about. 

  George




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Re: how to control webcam.

[George Avrunin]

On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 16:42:08 -, home user wrote:

> (f31; gnome)
> 
> I have a Ligitech HD Pro Webcam C920; it connects to the tower via USB
> port.  I have not been able to find anything installed to control it,
> for example to get it to zoom in or out.  I also tried dnf and
> dnfdragora to try to find something to install.
> 
> What is available, preferably via dnf, to give me control of my webcam?

I use guvcview.  It's in the Fedora repo.

  George


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Re: [NOT SOLVED] Audacity can't play audio on Fedora 32

[George Avrunin]

[Sreyan Chakravarty sent the reply directly to me, and apparently not to
the list, but I'm moving the discussion back to the list.]

On Sun, 31 May 2020 20:24:12 +0530, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote:

> On 5/27/20 11:38 PM, George Avrunin wrote:
> > I haven't used audacity in a long time, but on my Fedora 32, in Edit ->
> > Preferences -> Devices, the HOST is set to ALSA and there doesn't seem to
> > be a way to change it.  But Playback Device and Recording Device both have
> > a "pulse option".  Have you tried those?  
> 
> 
> Well its interesting to say that. These are the playback options I have:
> 
> Do you see any PulseAudio ?
> 
> https://imgur.com/a/VPuJyHI

On my main desktop machine (a Dell Precision T1700) I don't do very much
with sound.  In audacity, the Playback Device options I see (with no
webcam or headphones plugged in) are several entries of the form 
"HDA NVidia: HDMI X (hdw:y,z)", for various values of X (0-5), y, and z;
"pulse"; and "default".  For Recording Device, I see "HDA Intel PCH:
ALC3220 Analog (hw:0,0)"; "sysdefault"; "pulse"; and "default".  

> 
> >
> > The Audacity tutorial says
> > (https://ttmanual.audacityteam.org/o/man/tutorial_selecting_your_input.html)
> > that "An audio host is an interface between Audacity and the sound card
> > driver.  ... In Linux there is often only one option: ALSA, other options
> > could be OSS and/or Jack Audio Connection Kit (also known as "Jack" or
> > "Jackd")."  So HOST is not where you'd make any changes.  
> 
> 
> Thats interesting, if ALSA is the only option then where does PulseAudio 
> come in ?
> 

My understanding is that pulseaudio is a sound server, which interacts
with the applications and with the things that directly talk to the
hardware.  (See the comment in the text from the audacity tutorial
above; it's not pulse that is the direct interface to the soundcard
driver.) It seems that you have pulseaudio installed. Is it actually
running?  What does pavucontrol show?

As I said, I haven't used audacity in a long time and on my system
pulseaudio seems to be running and working just fine.  But your
configuration is clearly very different from mine and I don't know enough
to help debug your configuration.  




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Re: [NOT SOLVED] Audacity can't play audio on Fedora 32

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On Wed, 27 May 2020 23:08:39 +0530, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote:

> On 5/27/20 9:52 AM, Tim via users wrote:
> > So my guess would be it's a configuration issue.  Perhaps they're not
> > using pulseaudio, and are trying to use the hardware directly.  
> 
> Its interesting that you should say that because Audacity has 'ALSA' 
> configured and not 'PulseAudio'.
> 
> There is no way to change it in the Audacity GUI.
> 
> This may be what is causing the problem since Audacity is trying to use 
> ALSA directly, but again I don't know for sure.

I haven't used audacity in a long time, but on my Fedora 32, in Edit ->
Preferences -> Devices, the HOST is set to ALSA and there doesn't seem to
be a way to change it.  But Playback Device and Recording Device both have
a "pulse option".  Have you tried those?

The Audacity tutorial says
(https://ttmanual.audacityteam.org/o/man/tutorial_selecting_your_input.html)
that "An audio host is an interface between Audacity and the sound card
driver.  ... In Linux there is often only one option: ALSA, other options
could be OSS and/or Jack Audio Connection Kit (also known as "Jack" or
"Jackd")."  So HOST is not where you'd make any changes.


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Re: "dnf upgrade" crashing machine

[George Avrunin]

On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 15:08:44 +0200, antonio montagnani wrote:

> installed 5.6.7 kernel on F32 machines and I thinkthat bug has been 
> solved. Please check also on your side

Thanks.  I did install 5.6.7 this morning (after switching disk schedulers
to avoid crashing while installing the kernel).  Seems ok so far, but I'll
know more after the next big dnf transaction.

  George




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Re: "dnf upgrade" crashing machine

[George Avrunin]

On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 22:46:58 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

> The capsule summary here is that the system appears to lock up under high  
> I/O; either disk or network I/O. Doing a dnf upgrade puts a heavy load on  
> both disk and network I/O. Network I/O only in the case of the update itself  
> having to go out and download the updates from the repos. If all stuff's  
> already downloaded, it's mostly just disk I/O.

Thanks.  It does seem to be an issue of load, but it looks like the
problem is due to the scheduler bug mentioned in the message from Jerry
James.  So far kernel 5.6.7 seems ok.  (I switched schedulers before
running dnf to install the kernel...)

  George




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Re: "dnf upgrade" crashing machine

[George Avrunin]

On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 21:04:10 -0600, Jerry James wrote:

> Andre Robatino posted a link to this bug awhile ago:
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1826091
> 
> That sounds like the symptoms you are seeing.  It's a bug in the 5.6.6
> kernel.  It should be fixed in the 5.6.7 kernel, which will be
> available soon:
> 
> https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2020-64c805f706

Thanks!  I'll look for 5.6.7 (and be careful when dnf installs it. ;-)

  George




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"dnf upgrade" crashing machine

[George Avrunin]

Fedora 31, fully upgraded (I think...)  Summary: twice in the last
three days (since getting kernel 5.6.6, though I have no idea if that's
related), this machine has hung completely after running "sudo dnf
upgrade" while logged in over ssh. It becomes completely unresponsive to
the network and to the keyboard, mouse, etc., I go to it to reboot. I've
had to use the power button. The only strange things I see in the logs are
long strings of null characters (that show as ^@) in the dnf.log when the
dnf transactions crash the machine. 

Here are more details. This is a Dell Precision T1700 that is my university
office workstation as well as a IMAP server and web server for my use.
Since we're working remotely and discouraged from going on campus, I
hadn't been to the office since March 16, but in addition to reading and
sending mail, I've been putting stuff on my course web pages, etc., as
well as doing regular "sudo dnf upgrade" runs.

I got kernel 5.6.6 on Saturday, April 25.  On Sunday, I did a dnf upgrade
on my home machine, which is almost identically configured to the one in
my office.  That upgraded some git stuff, python3, samba, webkit2gtk3,
etc., a total of 24 packages.  That went fine, so I logged into my office
machine and did dnf upgrade there.  It offered pretty much the same list
of packages, I say "y" and did work in another virtual desktop for a
while.  Then I got an error message saying claws-mail couldn't connect to
the account on my office machine.  It was dead to the network--I logged in
on another machine in our department network and still couldn't connect to
my office one.  Eventually, I went to campus.  The machine was
unresponsive and I had to push the power button to get it to fully shut
down.  It then rebooted apparently normally, and ran fine.   I didn't have
time then to investigate very carefully, but I didn't see anything in the
journalctl output that indicated what the problem was--there was just a
complete gap in entries from the dnf transaction to when I rebooted.

The next day (yesterday) dnf upgrade worked normally and upgraded 6
packages: darktable, libmwaw, libstaroffice, libwps, openvpn, and
python3-click-7.1.1-1.fc31.noarch.

Today, I did an upgrade on the home machine again, successfully, and then
on the office machine.  It offered to upgrade akmods-wireguard, which I
realized I should have removed (since wireguard  is in the 5.6 kernel).
So I removed it and then did the upgrade.  dnf wanted to upgrade
google-chrome-stable, kde-print-manager and kde-print-manager-libs,
libappindicator, libappindicator-gtk3, libuv, some net-snmp stuff, and
python[23]-beautifulsoup4, all of which had been upgraded successfully on
the home machine. I said yes and it did some deltarpm stuff, downloaded a
couple of things, and then apparently froze completely, just like the last
time.  

Again, I had to go in to the office and use the power button to shutdown
and restart. But now it seems ok and the rpms that it was supposedly
upgrading do seem to have been upgraded--they're at the same versions as
on my home machine.

I don't see anything very strange in any of the logs.  Both times, the
basic journalctl output just stops and doesn't start again until I reboot.
However, in the dnf.log file after both of the bad upgrade transactions
started, there are long strings of null characters (150 or so).  These
don't show up in the dnf.log on the home machine that has upgraded fine.

I've run fsck and rpm -V.  There's plenty of disk space available in all
partitions.  

I don't have any idea what's going on and it's very inconvenient (not to
mention strongly discouraged by the powers that be) to have to keep going
on campus to restart the machine.  So I'd be very grateful for suggests
about how to figure this out, or at least stop it from happening again.

Thanks.

  George



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Re: nvidia and zoom problem?

[George Avrunin]

On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 12:21:15 +1030, Tim via users wrote:

> External USB webcam?
>  

Yeah, or just sharing a window from the laptop while reading the Zoom
chat, the files I'm speaking from, etc., from the desktop.There are
definitely workarounds.

Thanks.



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Re: nvidia and zoom problem?

[George Avrunin]

On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 08:00:23 -0300, George N. White III wrote:

> You don't mention if Wayland is involved.
> 
> 

No Wayland, I'm running KDE with X11.

...

> 
> Can you use an external monitor, mouse, and keyboard with the laptop (and
> position
> laptop for best camera placement)?
> 

I probably could, and I can make the laptop a participant in the meeting,
too, and share its screen if necessary while still using the big monitor
on my desktop for most of the work.  I was just hoping someone knew a
magic setting that would solve the problem without having to do
complicated. 

  George





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Re: nvidia and zoom problem?

[George Avrunin]

On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 20:46:05 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote:

> I didn't zoom was available for linux. 

If you go to zoom.us/download, you can get the app for Linux.  The one for
Fedora seems kind of old, though.

> I'm using zoom under windows for 
> interactive meeting  while working from home and screen sharing from 
> other users works fine, I haven't tried it as yet. One thing you 
> mentioned above was that you were using an nvidia card in your laptop, 
> did you by any chance try configuring your bios video settings to nvidia 
> to see if that made any difference?
> 

The laptop doesn't have an nvidia card, just the desktop.  Screen sharing
works fine with the laptop, but the placement of the camera and the size
of the screen make it less useful for teaching on Zoom.  I can, I guess,
login to the meeting with both the desktop and the laptop and share the
laptop's screen when I need to show the students a file.  (I'm also
logging in with an Android tablet to use as a whiteboard.)


> When I was using fedora natively instead of in a vm I was also using the 
> nvidia driver from negativo17 and found it work very well.

Yes, for everything else, the nvidia stuff from negativo17 has been great.

> 
> 
> regards,
> 
> Steve

  George



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nvidia and zoom problem?

[George Avrunin]

Like many universities, we are converting to working from home and
doing only online instruction as of Monday.  (This week is spring break and
faculty get to use it to figure out how to make the online instruction
work.)  The campus has a Zoom license and we are urged to use that for
class sessions.  I've run into a problem and tried the fix suggested by
Zoom support, but it's not working and I'm hoping someone here can help me.
Trying to interact with Zoom support gets a "we're too busy right now"
message

The problem is sharing a window/screen (desktop).  I can share from my
Fedora desktop, but when I stop the sharing Zoom crashes (or, in some
configurations--see below--sharing a window/screen just blacks out the
window/screen being shared).   Zoom support indicates that this is mostly a
problem with something automatically switching from the nvidia card to a
built-in card and suggests running 
   xcompmgr -c -l0 -t0 -r0 -o.00 
With the nvidia driver, this seems to have little or no effect.   It does
seem to work with nouveau, but I'm getting an annoying flashing of (at
least some windows on) the screen with nouveau (and I'm losing some
performance that I'd like to keep for other purposes).


Here are the details:

My home machine is running Fedora 31, fully updated, on a Dell Precision
T1700 with 32 GB of memory.  I have an nvidia card and run the nvidia
driver from negativo-17 (for performance with darktable...).  I use KDE,
and Settings -> Display and Monitor -> Compositor is not set to enable the
compositor on startup.  The backend Renderer is set to OpenGL 3.1, but
I've had the same problem with OpenGL 2.0 (though it did seem to work once
with 2.0; nothing like intermittent buggy behavior...). I did try logging
in with Gnome and still had the problem of stopping Zoom screen sharing
causing Zoom to crash.  When I run the xcompmgr command before starting
Zoom, I'm getting the following kind of message in the konsole I ran it
from when Zoom crashes:
error 138: BadRegion request 137 minor 14 serial 63627
error 138: BadRegion request 137 minor 14 serial 63635

The "BIOS Setup" at startup does have a video option.  It has 3 choices
for "Primary Display": AUTO, INTEL HD Graphics, and NVIDIA HD Graphics, and
it says that when "Auto" is not selected, the onboard graphics device will
be present and enabled.  I tried resetting this from Auto to Intel, and got
very slightly different behavior (sharing a konsole window blacked out the
window on my desktop and the meeting participants screens, and quitting
sharing crashed Zoom on the desktop). So I put it back to Auto. 

I then tried disabling the nvidia driver.  I blacklisted it (and the
associated modules in a file in /etc/modprobe.d) and changed the
/etc/X11/xorg.conf file to list "nouveau" as the driver for Device 0.
(When I rebooted, lsmod doesn't show any nvidia stuff, and does have
nouveau, so I think this worked).  With that, I'm getting some annoying
screen flashing (notably in claws-mail) and sharing a window blacks out the
window , but then running the xcompmgr command unblacks it and stopping
sharing doesn't seem to kill Zoom.  

Between the screen flashing with nouveau and wanting the performance of
the nvidia driver for other things, I'd like to make this work with the
nvidia driver.  

The output of lspci is
[~] 7) lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3 Processor DRAM
Controller (rev 06)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core
Processor PCI Express x16 Controller (rev 06)
00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset
Family USB xHCI (rev 04)
00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series
Chipset Family MEI Controller #1 (rev 04)
00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation Ethernet Connection I217-LM
(rev 04)
00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset
Family USB EHCI #2 (rev 04)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset High
Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family
PCI Express Root Port #1 (rev d4)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family
PCI Express Root Port #2 (rev d4)
00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family
PCI Express Root Port #5 (rev d4)
00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series ChipsetW
Family USB EHCI #1 (rev 04)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation C226 Series Chipset Family Server
Advanced SKU LPC Controller (rev 04)
00:1f.2 RAID bus controller: Intel Corporation SATA Controller [RAID mode]
(rev 04)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family SMBus
Controller (rev 04)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GP107 [GeForce GTX
1050 Ti] (rev a1)
01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GP107GL High Definition Audio
Controller (rev a1)
03:00.0 PCI bridge: Texas Instruments XIO2001 PCI Exp

Re: F29 KDE weirdness

[George Avrunin]

On Sat, 8 Dec 2018 23:29:35 -0500, Robert McBroom via users
 wrote:

> Upgraded to F29. On KDE desktop starting EMACS in a privileged command 
> window locks the system. Starting EMACS with sudo locks the system. On 
> XFCE4 normal EMACS access with privilege.
> 
> Other file managers don't like root but there are times when cli is awkward.

I'm now seeing this, too, with F29, kernel 4.19.7, on KDE.  I'm pretty sure
doing this has worked as expected after the upgrade to F29, so it's a recent
change, but I don't know exactly when it started. I'm seeing this with two
different machines (a desktop and a laptop).  This is
emacs-26.1.6.f29.x86_64, in case that matters, and, at the moment,
plasma-workspace-5.14.4-1.fc29.x86_64 which was upgraded to on December 5.

It doesn't actually lock the system.  I can, for instance get to a virtual
terminal and kill the startkde process to get back to roughly where I was.
And I can still see the cursor and move it around (though it becomes invisible 
when it's over the konsole window from which I launched emacs), but except for 
being able to use, e.g., control-F3, to get to a console, I don't seem to be 
able to interact with the open windows or switch to another virtual desktop 
(cursor won't cross the desktop boundary). 

The command "emacs -nw" seems to work fine.

  George


 



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Re: Sticks with not lights

[George Avrunin]

On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 11:07:22 -0800, Paul Allen Newell 
wrote:

> Rick:
> 
> Thanks for reply. I went through a bunch on man pages that do not list 
> the -f option. After getting your email, I went looking for a bunch more 
> and finally found one that had the -f and -d option.
> 
> I note that 'sync --help' only provides 'Usage: sync [OPTION]' without 
> listing what the options are. I have just followed their suggestion of 
> running "info coreutils 'sync invocation'" which gives alot of options.
> 
> Not certain why these options are more readily visible. I probably 
> should have dug deeper but after a bunch of online docs showing no 
> options I just figured there weren't any.
> 
> Paul

On both Fedora 28 and 29 (I don't have any older versions available), "man
sync" describes the -f option and "sync --help" returns the following:

  Usage: sync [OPTION] [FILE]...
  Synchronize cached writes to persistent storage

  If one or more files are specified, sync only them,
  or their containing file systems.

-d, --data sync only file data, no unneeded metadata
-f, --file-system  sync the file systems that contain the files
--help display this help and exit
--version  output version information and exit

  GNU coreutils online help: 
  Full documentation at: 
  or available locally via: info '(coreutils) sync invocation'

The link to the coreutils documentation gives more detail. (The man page also
points to that.)  I'm not sure why you don't think the options are readily
visible, unless you're working on non-Fedora (or even non-Linux) systems.


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Re: Dell laptop for Fedora (XPS 13 or Latitude 7490) or worthier alternatives?

[George Avrunin]

A couple of weeks ago, I got an XPS 13" 9370 with the 8th generation i7 and
the same screen, SSD, and memory as the OP shows.  On our university contract,
I couldn't get the one with Ubuntu and had to take Windows (but Dell adjusted
the price a bit so we didn't pay the full Microsoft tax).  I deleted Windows
and installed Fedora. (It was a bit of a headache; I had to Google how to
reset the way it sees the disk before I could repartition, etc.)  And I have
to switch a lot of things to USB-C now. ;-)

But once I got it configured, the only issue is that the webcam doesn't work
under Linux.  There's a lot of discussion of this on the Dell Linux community
forum
(https://www.dell.com/community/Linux-General/Dell-xps-13-9370-Webcam-support/td-p/6032049).
Apparently, at least on the ones that shipped with Ubuntu, Dell is willing to
come out and replace the whole screen (which downgrades the firmware on the
webcam to something the linux kernel knows about). And it sounds like they
may have an actual software fix very soon.  I hope that they'll release that
upstream and it will get to Fedora quickly...  In any case, the webcam works
in a Windows VM (I'm using VirtualBox; you need to enable USB 2/3 and then
tell it to use the webcam), so it's definitely not a hardware problem.  The
issue seems to involve UVC 1.50 and maybe the infrared camera. (But, at least
for now, I don't have to put a piece of tape over the webcam.)

I don't like the keyboard and trackpad as much as my 5-year-old Lenovo X1 (on
which the battery is dying and keycaps are falling off, but it has real
mouse buttons).  But the battery life on the new Dell is really good, much
better than the X1 ever was.  And the screen is very nice when you do the
appropriate HiDPI scaling. If you carry it around a lot, I would go with the
13" for the weight advantage.

  George






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Re: selinux issue with dovecot after upgrade from F27 to F28

[George Avrunin]

Oops, I forgot to answer the question about the dovecot version: it's
dovecot-2.2.35-2.fc28.x86_64, which is the latest available from the repos for 
F28.  

  George



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Re: selinux issue with dovecot after upgrade from F27 to F28

[George Avrunin]

On Thu, 3 May 2018 20:12:06 +0200, Lukas Vrabec  wrote:

> > 
> > Hi George,
> > 
> > It's bug, What is your version of dovecot? We made some changes in
> > policy to be more tighten, but Bug is on dovecot side.
> >   
> 
> Check following comment:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1560704#c7
> 
> 
> 
> > Lukas.
> > 
> >   

Ah, thanks.  I've added myself to the CC list.  

The sealert popups are frequent enough to be annoying; I guess the best
approach is to create the selinux local policy for now and get rid of it when
the bug is fixed?

  George




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selinux issue with dovecot after upgrade from F27 to F28

[George Avrunin]

I upgraded my office machine from F27 to F28 last night, using dnf
system-upgrade.  In most respects, the upgrade went fine.  (There are
some annoyances with sddm, but once I found out how to get rid of the
user list in gdm, going back to gdm seems to be fine.)

But I'm getting constant notices from selinux about AVC denials that
seem to have to do with dovecot doing indexing.  (I run dovecot on
this machine as an imap server for my personal mail.)  The
setroubleshoot details window has:
--
SELinux is preventing dovecot from using the dac_override capability.

*  Plugin dac_override (91.4 confidence) suggests   **

If you want to help identify if domain needs this access or you have a file 
with the wrong permissions on your system
Then turn on full auditing to get path information about the offending file and 
generate the error again.
Do

Turn on full auditing
# auditctl -w /etc/shadow -p w
Try to recreate AVC. Then execute
# ausearch -m avc -ts recent
If you see PATH record check ownership/permissions on file, and fix it,
otherwise report as a bugzilla.

*  Plugin catchall (9.59 confidence) suggests   **

If you believe that dovecot should have the dac_override capability by default.
Then you should report this as a bug.
You can generate a local policy module to allow this access.
Do
allow this access for now by executing:
# ausearch -c 'dovecot' --raw | audit2allow -M my-dovecot
# semodule -X 300 -i my-dovecot.pp

Additional Information:
Source Contextsystem_u:system_r:dovecot_t:s0
Target Contextsystem_u:system_r:dovecot_t:s0
Target ObjectsUnknown [ capability ]
Sourcedovecot
Source Path   dovecot
Port  
Host  ext.math.umass.edu
Source RPM Packages   
Target RPM Packages   
Policy RPMselinux-policy-3.14.1-24.fc28.noarch
Selinux Enabled   True
Policy Type   targeted
Enforcing ModeEnforcing
Host Name ext.math.umass.edu
Platform  Linux ext.math.umass.edu 4.16.5-300.fc28.x86_64 #1
  SMP Fri Apr 27 17:38:36 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64
Alert Count   122
First Seen2018-05-03 02:21:04 EDT
Last Seen 2018-05-03 12:52:59 EDT
Local ID  019bb172-93a2-4c4c-b0fc-21a2c16e138b

Raw Audit Messages
type=AVC msg=audit(1525366379.312:365): avc:  denied  { dac_override } for  
pid=9354 comm="indexer-worker" capability=1  
scontext=system_u:system_r:dovecot_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:system_r:dovecot_t:s0 
tclass=capability permissive=0


Hash: dovecot,dovecot_t,dovecot_t,capability,dac_override
--
I ran ausearch as suggested but I don't see any mention of specific file.
I haven't found anything about this issue in a web search or on Common
Bugs.  

I guess I can create a policy module to get rid of these, but I wanted
to check on whether there's something wrong with my setup before I do
that.  I did a full relabel (with /.autorelabel and a reboot; it
complained about conflicts between rpms in /var/cache/system-upgrade
and /var/lib/system-upgrade, but seemed to finish ok) and that didn't
help.  This machine has been upgraded through several iterations of
upgrades from about 4 years ago (Fedora 19 or 20?), so there might
well be some issues with the selinux contexts left over somewhere.  I
assume this is the kind of indexing that's reported in the daily
logwatch mail, with something like "dovecot[2441]:
indexer-worker(avrunin): Indexed 2 messages in Department.RCF (UIDs
11991..11992): 1 Time(s)", so that the files causing the problem are
in my home directory under ~/Maildir.  These files have context 
"system_u:object_r:mail_home_rw_t:s0".

Thanks for any suggestions.

  George
  


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Re: keyboard not bringing monitor back up after power management or dpms screen suspend

[George Avrunin]

On Mon, 4 Jul 2016 15:25:27 -0400, Lester Petrie wrote:

> Yes, I see this also. I have a Dell desktop with AMD graphics. I have 
> turned screen blanking off, so that my screen saver runs all the time 
> after my machine goes idle. I hadn't discovered that switching to a VT 
> and back would activate the screen. I will have to give that a try.

It seems to have come with the 4.6 kernel.  I should have thought of
trying this before (thanks to Tom Horsley in a thread on "Really excessive
screen behavior" for reminding me!) but with kernel-4.5.7-300.fc24.x86_64,
this doesn't arise.  So for now I'm just back to booting to the older
kernel.  

This doesn't seem to be the same as any of the other bugs I could find, so
I've entered it as a new one,
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1352719

I entered it for the kernel, though maybe it's really an X11 or driver
bug.  Someone with a lot more knowledge of the internals than I have will
have to decide that. 

  George




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Re: keyboard not bringing monitor back up after power management or dpms screen suspend

[George Avrunin]

Some additional information:

- The same thing happens on a very old Dell Inspiron (I think) desktop,
  also with Intel integrated graphics, that my wife uses.  (But the two
  Precision workstations are less than 1.5 years old and the other machine
  is definitely more than 5 years old.  )

- The problem is independent of the display manager (I'm using sddm, but I
  tried with gdm, too) and, mostly, the desktop.  With Gnome, it comes
  back from the initial screen blanking when a key is pressed, but if it
  sits longer it will reach a state where it's necessary to switch to a VT
  and back to get back to the X display.  

- The machine is seeing other key events, too, but they just don't wake up
  the display. If I leave the focus in, say, a konsole or a Gnome terminal
  and let the machine blank the screen (waiting long enough on Gnome),
  typing ordinary text won't bring back the display but the typed material
  shows up when I switch to a VT and switch back. 

- I tried with a new user, in case this had something to do with settings
  getting upgraded from F23 to F24 or some other misconfiguration in my
  account.  But the same thing happens.  

Is anyone else seeing this?  Should I file a bug?  For X, for the Intel
driver, or something else?

  George


 


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keyboard not bringing monitor back up after power management or dpms screen suspend

[George Avrunin]

After upgrading to F24, I'm having the following problem.  I have KDE
Settings -> Power Management -> Energy Saving set to turn on "screen
energy saving" after 10 minutes.  This blanks the screen after 10 minutes
of inactivity, as expected.  (xset -q shows that DPMS is enabled, too,
of course.)

Previously, hitting the Alt key or clicking the mouse would bring back the
desktop quickly.  Now (on two different machines), it's not coming back.
But the machine is recognizing the keyboard--I've found that if I do
Ctl-Alt-F2 to switch to a virtual terminal, the monitor quickly shows the
login prompt, and I can go back to X on VT-1 and my Plasma desktop is
there. But hitting other keys (Return, Alt, random letters) doesn't seem
to wake it up.  The monitor acts as if there's no input from the
computer.  It's the DPMS Suspend state that's the problem; the display
comes back when it's in the Standby one.  One of the machines has screen
locking turned on but the other doesn't. 

These are both Dell Precision workstations with Intel integrated graphics,
in case that matters (one with a Dell monitor and the other with a Samsung
monitor).  I didn't (intentionally) change the settings until I started
trying to troubleshoot after the problem arose, so these should all have
been the same as under F23.  I did find an very old bug that might have to
do with this, with a comment from March (747162).  

I tried using xset to turn of DPMS; then the screen doesn't blank at all.
And the same sort of thing happens with the KDE settings version turned
off and DPMS on.  Disabling DPMS means the monitor stays on.  So it's
seems like it's really a problem with DPMS, not the KDE settings.  The
workaround of switching to a VT means this isn't urgent, but it is
annoying. What am I missing?

  George






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Re: sagemath problem

[George Avrunin]

On Mon, 01 Feb 2016 21:53:28 +, Timothy Murphy 
wrote:

> Yesterday I dnf-installed sagemath on my Fedora-23/KDE laptop.
> The brought over 200 packages and about 550MB with it.
> Unfortunately when I run it I get the following error:
> --
> [tim@william ~]$ sage
> ┌┐
> │ Sage Version 6.5, Release Date: 2015-02-17 │
> │ Type "notebook()" for the browser-based notebook interface.│
> │ Type "help()" for help.│
> └┘
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/usr/lib64/sagemath/local/bin/sage-ipython", line 6, in 
> from sage.repl.interpreter import SageTerminalApp
> ImportError: No module named sage.repl.interpreter
> --
> 
> I take it this means some python package is missing,
> but I can't work out which one.
> Any suggestions gratefully welcomed.

I just tried "sudo dnf install sagemath\*" on a fully updated Fedora 23
desktop running KDE (but Gnome is installed, too).  Seems to work for me:

[~] 6) sage
┌┐
│ Sage Version 6.5, Release Date: 2015-02-17 │
│ Type "notebook()" for the browser-based notebook interface.│
│ Type "help()" for help.│
└┘
Setting permissions of DOT_SAGE directory so only you can read and write it.
sage: exit
Exiting Sage (CPU time 0m0.01s, Wall time 0m4.07s).





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Re: Fedora 22 and 23 don't (fully) recognize Canon camera; Fedora 20 and 21 did

[George Avrunin]

An addendum:

konqueror (but not dolphin) supports the camera:/ protocol and can see the
camera. And now (though this was definitely not true earlier, at least with
F22--I'm not sure I even tried with F23), digikam can import from the
camera.  But the device notifier doesn't see any device, so it doesn't
prompt to download pictures, and the messages in /var/log/messages about
mtp-probe, etc., are the same.

I had fiddled around with commenting out a like in the libmtp udev ruleset,
but I put it back to the original version, and then I rebooted.  So I'm
not sure why digikam can now import from the camera (though it simply
calls it a "Canon Digital Camera", when I think it used to know the
model). 


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Re: Fedora 22 and 23 don't (fully) recognize Canon camera; Fedora 20 and 21 did

[George Avrunin]

On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 18:53:56 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

> May or may not be related, but I had a similar issue with Gnome and my
> MP3 player after upgrading to F21, not F22. So, it is probably a
> slightly different, but likely a related issue.
> 
> Anyway, my MP3 player is a USB storage device, and after an upgrade to
> F21 something in Gnome-land apparently got the bright idea that it's now
> an MTP device. Hilarity ensued.
> 
> I happened to have a netbook that wasn't beefy enough for Gnome, and I
> had the XFCE spin running on it already. On a lark, I plugged in the MP3
> player, and it came up like nothing has ever happened. Fully functional.
> I switched to XFCE on my main server, and suddenly it could talk to the
> MP3 player again.
> 
> I dutifully opened a bug, included syslog dumps, USB device IDs, etc… It
> was all for nothing, the ticket had no activity after I created it, and
> it's about to be closed together with all other unresolved F21 bugs. I
> don't really care much for it, since all my desktops and laptops are
> running XFCE now.
> 
> So, try switching to XFCE. You may need to create a new user account,  
> though. Even after I had reconfigured my user account for XFCE, for
> some reason it still had a bunch of Gnome stuff refusing to go away.

Thanks.  I tried both XFCE and Gnome, each with a scratch user.  No
change, neither desktop seems to notice a new device. Since the kernel
isn't fully recognizing the camera (doesn't get the model number or the
serial number) and mtp-probe rejects it, my guess is that the problem is
before the desktop.

Running the kio client command, as suggested in the bug report pointed
out by Ian Malone, yields "Canon%20EOS%20100D@usb:004,011", which does
seem to be getting the model number (100D) correctly, but doesn't seem to
make the camera accessible to dolphin or anything else.  Running
kdeinit4 from a konsole and then trying camera:/ in Dolphin just gives
the same "invalid protocol" message. (But the bug Ian cited was for KDE 4,
so I'm not sure it applies in F23.) 

There's a check-ptp-camera script in /lib/udev (which comes from
gphoto2).  It's supposed to exit with code 0 if the device offers a PTP
interface.  When I run that and check the exit code, I'm getting 1. (I
couldn't see who actually calls that in normal operation, but I figured
I'd give it a try.)

I can get pictures off the camera using a card reader, so this isn't
urgent for me, but it's annoying and it seems that other people are
having some related problems.  There's bug 1249283 on this (filed against
the kamera component, but maybe it should be something else?).  



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Re: Fedora 22 and 23 don't (fully) recognize Canon camera; Fedora 20 and 21 did

[George Avrunin]

On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 17:31:54 +, Ian Malone wrote:

> I've also got a Canon not showing up, putting camera:// into the
> dolphin address bar while it's connected works and I haven't got
> around to finding out why it's doing this.

Thanks, Ian.  Just "camera://"?  I tried that just now; when I hit enter,
I got a big red bar with "Invalid protocol".  

But I don't use dolphin in general (or any graphical file manager), so I
could well be doing something wrong.






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Fedora 22 and 23 don't (fully) recognize Canon camera; Fedora 20 and 21 did

[George Avrunin]

I have a Canon EOS SL1 camera (also known as an EOS 100D).  With Fedora
20 and 21, when I connected the camera to a USB port, it was recognized and
the KDE device notifier would ask whether I wanted to open it with the
file manager or download photos with digikam.  Digikam also recognized the
camera when it was connected.  The camera is supported by libghoto2 and
uses the PTP protocol.

But with Fedora 22 and 23, the camera is not fully recognized and I can't
download photos directly from the camera.  (I can use a card reader, of
course.)  In /var/log/messages, I see the following:

Nov 11 11:17:01 g kernel: usb 4-1.4.1: new high-speed USB device number 9
using ehci-pci Nov 11 11:17:02 g kernel: usb 4-1.4.1: New USB device
found, idVendor=04a9, idProduct=3270 
Nov 11 11:17:02 g kernel: usb
4-1.4.1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0 Nov 11
11:17:02 g kernel: usb 4-1.4.1: Product: Canon Digital Camera 
Nov 11 11:17:02 g kernel: usb 4-1.4.1: Manufacturer: Canon Inc. 
Nov 11 11:17:02 g mtp-probe: checking bus 4, device 9:
"/sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1d.0/usb4/4-1/4-1.4/4-1.4.1" 
Nov 11 11:17:02 g mtp-probe: bus: 4, device: 9 was not an MTP device

The device notifier doesn't notice the camera (it says "no devices
available) and digikam can't see it. I've tried other cables and usb
ports (and even another computer). I use KDE, but this doesn't look like
it's a KDE issue.  

The only other camera with a usb connection thta I have at hand right now
is an old Canon Powershot G9, which gets similar messages about not being
an MTP device (but /var/log/messages shows a serial number for the camera).
This also worked with earlier Fedoras.

I'm not sure what changed from F21 to F22.  I was hoping that things would
work again with F23. Any suggestions?   I don't understand udev very
well...  



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Re: digikam problem

[George Avrunin]

On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 12:28:46 +0100, "Patrick O'Callaghan"
 wrote:

> On Tue, 2014-08-19 at 17:51 -0400, George Avrunin wrote:
> > I wrote to the digikam list about this a few days ago, but haven't
> > gotten any response, so I thought I'd check here before filing a bug.
> 
> You might also consider the Fedora-KDE list, which would have a higher
> density of Digikam expertise than the general Users list. See
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde
> 
> poc
> 

Thanks, I'll try that.

  George




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digikam problem

[George Avrunin]

I wrote to the digikam list about this a few days ago, but haven't gotten
any response, so I thought I'd check here before filing a bug.

On a fully updated Fedora 20, I've had the following problems importing
images from a Canon EOS SL1 since the update from digikam 3.5 to 4.0
(which I got July 26):

- The digikam camera window doesn't show thumbnails or previews, just icons
  for RAW and/or JPEG.  I can't seem to preview the images to select the
  ones to import.  Digikam does recognize the camera, it just won't show
  thumbnails or previews of the images on the camera. 

- Digikam gets the date from JPEGs to do renaming as I have specified, but
  it seems to think that all of the RAW files were created on 1969-12-31
  at 19:00:00, at least from the filenames it's generating.  Once the files
  are imported (I just import all of them without doing any selection), the
  "File properties" shows the correct date. (Well, up to time zone issues:
  my camera is set to Eastern Daylight Time, and Digikam seems to be
  interpreting that as Universal Time and then correcting for my
  computer's time zone, so things are off by 4 hours--but this was true
  before the update, too. Is this a configuration problem on my part?)

- I have digikam set to create a new sub-album with the date; so I have
  ///.  I'm importing into the .
  JPEGs are correctly put in a sub-album with the date, but RAW images are
  put into the , not into a sub-album.  I assume this is connected
  to not being able to correctly get the date for the RAW images during the
  import.

All of this (except for the time zone stuff) worked fine with 3.5.  I
tried downloading the bodhi builds of digikam 4.2 for Fedora 20, but I'm
seeing the same issues as with 4.0.  I looked through the digikam mailing
list archives and saw that some other people had problems with previewing
images from the camera with Canon cameras on 4.0, but the only response
was a claim that digikam was using gphoto2, with no details or follow-up.
(I can download the images from the gphoto2 command line, too.  The
problem is not seeing thumbnails in the camera window to decide
what to download, or getting the dates on RAW images.)  Shotwell seems to
be able to generate thumbnails of images in the camera before downloading
and gets the correct dates on RAW images.  

I only started using digikam in early July, so it may well be that this is
pilot error, but I haven't been able to figure it out from the
documentation.  I don't think I changed any digikam settings with the
upgrade from 3.5 to 4.0, and nothing about the camera changed at that
time.  

Thanks for any help.  If nobody's got a solution, should I file it on the
Fedora bugzilla, or upstream?

  George


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Re: BackupPC - a brief rant

[George Avrunin]

On Fri, 20 Jun 2014 19:16:29 +0100, "Patrick O'Callaghan"
 wrote:

> On Fri, 2014-06-20 at 12:13 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> > On Fri, 20 Jun 2014 16:48:38 +0100
> > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > 
> > > AFAIK it's actually an error from rsync (I've seen it in rsnapshot as
> > > well, which is also rsync-based). Google for more.
> > 
> > And apparently, what it actually means is: "Hey! I'm trying to
> > talk to an incompatible version of rsync on the other system."
> > 
> > I got it recently trying to copy a very old system's root
> > to a virtual image and I had to download the source rpm
> > for rsync and build the new rsync on the old system.
> 
> Yes, that sounds about right. I was too lazy to backtrack and look it up
> again :-)
> 
> poc
> 

It can also occur with BackupPC when keyless ssh isn't set up right
and ssh is giving a prompt (e.g., on the first ssh login to a host).  Has
happened to me more than once...

  George




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Re: Installing texlive under Fedora 17.

[George Avrunin]

On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 17:46:15 +0300, Susi Lehtola
 wrote:

> Don't install stuff manually when things have already been packages.  
> Fedora 18 features a complete TeXLive 2012 distribution; you can also  
> get it on Fedora 17 by

Except that I think Fedora installs the versions from the TeX Live svn
repository, so the binary versions you get may not be the same as if you
install from TeX Live 2012.  There have been times when the repository had
broken binaries. I haven't personally had any problems with the Fedora 18
stuff, but I don't run XeTeX, ConTeXt, etc., and if the problem is getting
LaTeX to work on a file that worked previously, this sort of thing might be an
issue.  

  George




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Re: texlive

[George Avrunin]

On Thu, 7 Mar 2013 18:47:52 +, Tethys wrote:

> I tried various
> other options and ended up with ConTeXt, which I'm generally pretty
> happy with. Except that it doesn't work on F17. At all. And yes, I do
> mind migrating. For new projects, it's not so bad. But for already
> published books, if I want to do a second printing, I want to correct
> a few typos, run make and have a fully typeset PDF that I can send off
> the the printers. I can't currently do that, and retypesetting the
> whole thing in an alternative tool simply isn't a viable option.
> 
> Tet
> 

Have you tried installing TeX Live directly from CTAN (e.g., download
install-tl-unx.tar.gz and perhaps update regularly using tlmgr)?  If
there's a problem with the F17 version, it's possible that the actual TeX
Live 2012, updated from CTAN, would solve it.  I don't use ConTeXt (and
I'm on F18 now), so I can't say anything about that.  But on F17 I used
TeX Live from CTAN, not the Fedora rpms, and everything I use worked
fine.  (I haven't had any problems with the one from the rpms on F18 yet
either, but ...)

  George




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no zoom in korganizer?

[George Avrunin]

On a fully-updated F17 x86_64, I decided to try korganizer again after not
using it for a couple of years.  I would like to zoom vertically in the
calendar section to increase the vertical space per hour (mostly in the work
week view, but also in the day view).  From the documentation I can find, I
should be able to go to Views -> Zoom -> In Vertically, but all the options
in Views -> Zoom are grayed out (in/out x horizontal/vertical).

I tried with a scratch user account and got the same result, so it's at
least not obviously an issue with my configuration.  Is the zoom disabled on
F17 or do I have a more subtle problem?  

  George


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Maximum number of (X) clients reached, F17 KDE

[George Avrunin]

I'm running Fedora 17, upgraded (through preupgrade) from 16.  The
installation is fully updated.  I use KDE, with 12 virtual desktops (though I
usually only have things open in 4 or 5 of them).  I have one panel, and the
only widgets running in the root window are the pager and a folder view that
shows only Home and Trash.  (Those are present on all the desktops.)

I've been encountering situations where I hit this error and new windows
refuse to open.  For instance, right now I have a console window with 2 tabs,
a claws-mail window (and the compose message window in which I'm writing
this), a firefox window, 2 emacs windows, and 3 pdf files open in okular.  At
this point, for instance, I can't open another file in okular, getting 
  "Maximum number of clients reachedokular: cannot connect to X server :0"

I did not have this problem with a similar workload on F16.

To run xlsclients, I have to close something; after quitting one of the
okular windows, xlsclients gives:

ext.math.umass.edu  kwin
ext.math.umass.edu  kded4
ext.math.umass.edu  kded4
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/kglobalaccel
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/kglobalaccel
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/kwalletd
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/kwalletd
ext.math.umass.edu  ksmserver
ext.math.umass.edu  ksmserver
ext.math.umass.edu  kwin
ext.math.umass.edu  kwin
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/kactivitymanagerd
ext.math.umass.edu  kwin
ext.math.umass.edu  kwin
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/knotify4
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/knotify4
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/kuiserver
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/kuiserver
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/kaccess
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/krunner
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/krunner
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/krunner
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/krunner
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_feeder
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_feeder
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/akonadi_maildispatcher_agent
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/akonadi_maildispatcher_agent
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/akonadi_mailfilter_agent
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/akonadi_mailfilter_agent
ext.math.umass.edu  kmix
ext.math.umass.edu  kmix
ext.math.umass.edu  kmix
ext.math.umass.edu  kmix
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/nepomukcontroller
ext.math.umass.edu  /usr/bin/nepomukcontroller
ext.math.umass.edu  kmix
ext.math.umass.edu  konsole
ext.math.umass.edu  konsole
ext.math.umass.edu  kmix
ext.math.umass.edu  konsole
ext.math.umass.edu  k

BackupPC problems since upgrade to F17

[George Avrunin]

I used preupgrade to move from F16 to F17.  The installation
hung up (installing Steel Bank Common Lisp; this
seems to be a problem other people have had, e.g.,
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=280318) but when I
restarted, it completed and seems to have been successful.  I did
have to add "namespace inbox {inbox = yes}" to my dovecot.conf to let
claws-mail get my e-mail, but otherwise things seem to mostly be working
fine.

But I'm having some problems with BackupPC.  I use this machine to
backup itself and a couple of other Fedora boxes (still at F16 and
F15) to an external USB disk that I mount under /scratch and then use
a symbolic link to /var/lib/BackupPC.  There were a few minor selinux
issues with contexts, which I seem to have fixed up with a couple of
restorecons.

However, the web interface doesn't seem to be able to get information
about the backups on the hosts.  So, for instance, it shows whether
any backups are running and some of the status information (like the
size of the pool file system), but it claims that none of the hosts
have any backups and it says the pool contains 0 files.  However, I was able
to use the web interface to initiate a full backup of one host and all the log
information indicates that completed successfully (with 847583 files,
117689557865 bytes, 0 xferErrs).  Moreover, although (after a restorecon
suggested by sealert), I can read the logs (e.g., /var/log/BackupPC/LOG and
the older ones) from the web interface, when I go to the page for a specific
host and try to read the LOG file for this host (by clicking in the panel in
the upper left), it tells me "Can't open log file". The backuppc user can
read the file, however.   (The overall LOG file is in /var/log/BackupPC; the
one for the particular host is in /var/lib/BackupPC/pc//.) 

I'm not seeing any audit entries when this happens (and I've tried running
with selinux set to permissive and it doesn't make any difference).  The file
ownership and permissions (up to /var/lib/BackupPC) seem ok to me.  And
backups completed successfully the morning of the day I did the upgrade
(which I checked before doing the upgrade ;-) ).  

The only things I'm seeing in the httpd logs are a lot of "Use of qw(...) as
parentheses is deprecated ...", which apparently is due to the BackupPC perl
code not having been updated to correspond to recent enough Perl version.
But from what I've been able to find, (a) this was happening with F16, and
(b) it's just a warning and shouldn't have anything to do with this
problem.  

Does anyone have any suggestions about what else to look at to sort this out?
Given that it seems to have resulted from the upgrade to F17, I thought I'd
ask here first, before trying the BackupPC list, but I checked that and
don't see any reports of problems with F17.  

Thanks,

  George



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Re: F15 preupgrade seems not to work with /boot on RAID

[George Avrunin]

On Tue, 24 May 2011 22:12:39 -0400, Matthew Saltzman 
wrote:

> All packages downloaded, but preupgrade reported an error on the console
> I ran it from regarding the fact that /boot was on a software RAID
> device.  The GUI, on the other hand, appeared to finish normally and
> reported that the installation would start on reboot.  It didn't.
> 
> So is there a reason preupgrade can't work with /boot on RAID when the
> original (F12, IIRC, upgraded to F14) installation did?  And why doesn't
> the GUI detect the error and fail?
> 

I'm seeing the same problem--GUI doesn't complain, but doesn't work and
preupgrade-cli complains. Any suggestions?

  George



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Change tracking problem with OpenOffice--options settings don't persist

[George Avrunin]

I am running Fedora 12 x86_64, but this problem goes back to earlier
versions.  (In fact, I think I recall some discussion of it on the list
a year or so ago, but I couldn't find that when I searched so maybe I'm
imagining it.)

I have some colleagues who prefer to use Word (even to edit LaTeX source
files!), partly because change tracking sometimes makes it a lot easier to
keep up with what's happening to multi-author manuscripts.  So I need to
use OpenOffice's change tracking and I set Tools -> Options -> Writer
-> Changes to color the changes "by author". That works fine in the
particular session, but once I close OpenOffice, the setting is lost and
I have to redo the setting every time I start OpenOffice.

I asked about this on the Writer forum at OpenOffice.org and was told to
remove my profile (which I had already tried) and, if that didn't work,
to install the rpms from Sun.  I used yum to remove all the OpenOffice
stuff and installed the Sun rpms to see if it made a difference, but
that version keeps crashing when I start it up.  I imagine there's
something I need to reconfigure (I was told on the forum that "there
are several threads here about install under Fedora"), but before I put
in the time to see if I can make the Sun rpms work and then find out
whether they have the change tracking settings problem, I thought I'd ask
here and see if anyone else is having this problem with change tracking or
has a solution with the Fedora rpms.

Thanks,

  George


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