Re: basic issue/question -- renaming in mass a bunch of files

[John Wendel]

On 02/24/2018 08:38 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Sat, 2018-02-24 at 09:03 -0500, bruce wrote:

Hi.

Have a bunch of files with the basic naming of:
ztcloud_nfs_parseztaa_1__WGS_7500_001__parse.dat
ztcloud_nfs_parseztaa_1__WGS_7500_002__parse.dat
etc..

I'd like to simply remove the 1st part ztcloud_nfs_parsezt from the
files, renaming the files to the rest of the filename..

Thought it should be simple using rename

rename 's/ztcloud_nfs_parseztaa/aa/' zt*.dat


Read the man page again. The pattern is just a text string, not a regex
or sed-type command.

poc
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There appears to be 2 different "rename" programs out in the world.  The 
Fedora rename uses a text string for the pattern, but on my Mint box the 
pattern is a sed-like substitution.  Confusing ?

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Re: Bash / Escaping quotes is driving me crazy . .

[John Wendel]

On 02/20/2016 04:05 PM, Philip Rhoades wrote:

People,

This line correctly finds one MP3 but misses two FLACs:

  ssh localhost "find 
/home/phil/music/ambient/RobertGass+OnWingsOfSong/OmNamahaShivaya 
-maxdepth 1 -type f \\( -name "*.mp3" -o -name "*.m4a" -o -name 
"*.flac" \\)"


Adding extra escapes fixes the problem:

  ssh localhost "find 
/home/phil/music/ambient/RobertGass+OnWingsOfSong/OmNamahaShivaya 
-maxdepth 1 -type f \\( -name \"*.mp3\" -o -name \"*.m4a\" -o -name 
\"*.flac\" \\)"


. . but why is there only a problem with the "flac" OR? - all three 
files have at least one space in the filename:


01_Early Morning.mp3
02 Om.flac
01 Om Namaha Shivaya.flac

Thanks,

Phil.
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I usually resort to running "detox" on the file.  Try >man detox.

Regards

John

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Re: How can I sabotage all networking functionality in a fedora system?

[John Wendel]

On 05/04/2014 07:57 AM, Someone wrote:

I'd like to lobotomize a system through soft means such that it has no
way to communicate using any network interfaces. Ideally, in order to
reverse this, one would need the root password, and be required to dig
through obscure configuration files or execute shell commands.

Anyone have thoughts on how one could go about accomplishing this?

Thanks.

Easy, compile a custom kernel without any network functions.

John

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Re: What new security "feature" is screwing me up now?

[John Wendel]

On 01/19/2014 06:48 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 15:16:41 -0500
Tom Horsley wrote:


It is almost like nohup isn't preventing hup and it
is dying in the sleep command before it starts RH.

Gaaah! Well, this turns out to be just totally
obvious. All I need to do is put this line in the
script I background from the udev script:

echo $$ > /sys/fs/cgroup/systemd/user.slice/tasks

Shucks, anyone should have known that!
Intuitively obvious to the casual observer. How did you figure it out? 
What does it do?


John

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Re: Tool to convert a video DVD for YouTube uploading

[John Wendel]

On 12/26/2013 03:11 PM, Paul Smith wrote:

On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 7:38 PM, Tim  wrote:

Allegedly, on or about 26 December 2013, Paul Smith sent:

I have a video DVD with the following structure:

$ dir
AUDIO_TS  VIDEO_TS
$

I would like to upload the video into YouTube. However, it seems that
I have first to convert the video DVD to one of the formats accepted
by YouTube. Could someone please direct me about how to achieve that
in Fedora?

Well, I've not done it for a while, but I've been able to just upload
the VOB files to YouTube, and it handled them by itself.  However,
YouTube has a nasty habit of badly stuffing up sound to picture
synchronisation.

Giving it a different file format to deal with my change that issue,
though.  And, presuming you have a long video, it would sidestep the
issue of DVD video being spread across more than one VOB file.

Thanks, Tim. By uploading the VOB files, the quality of the image is
better compared to the AVI counterparts.

Paul
Give Handbrake a try. It produces mp4 or mkv output with great quality 
and the output will be much smaller than your VOB files.


Regards,

John

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Re: file deletion from usb drive??

[John Wendel]

On 12/23/2013 05:52 AM, bruce wrote:

I tried adding the delete option to Nautilus, as well as running the
rm command from the cmdline

find . -name "*Booklist.html*" | xargs rm -f

I've tried all of this as root with no results.





On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 7:49 AM, Tim  wrote:

Allegedly, on or about 23 December 2013, bruce sent:

I select a few using the mouse, select the "move to trash" menu item,
and after it says it's moving files to the trash, I do a
refresh/reload, and the files are still there!!

So, just how do I delete files from the external drive!

I dunno about that problem (do you own the files you're trying to
delete?), but if you want to delete files, try using a delete command
rather than "move to trash, then empty trash."  Have you done the "empty
trash" step, too?

I always set the option to show an actual delete command in the Nautilus
file browser.  If I actually want to delete files, then messing around
with the trashcan is a timewaster.

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All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point
trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the
public lists.

George Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning against tyranny, not
a set of instructions for supposedly democratic governments.



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Is your disk mounted read-only ?  Can you make new files on it ?

Regards,

John

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Re: usb disk, in reverse?

[John Wendel]

On 12/10/2013 11:11 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:

On Dec 10, 2013, at 3:54 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan  wrote:


On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Tim  wrote:
Chris Murphy:

Offhand I'm not thinking why a TV would need mount media as
read-write.


Patrick O'Callaghan:

In principle, it would allow the TV to flag shows that have already
been seen, or even delete shows under user command. Not that I know of
any that actually do this of course.

Or remember the user-corrected rotation of photos that have been viewed.

Indeed, and no doubt other features would come to mind, e.g. remember current 
position in video so the user can pick it up on another viewing device, 
reorganize videos into folders, configure per-folder sorting criteria, etc. 
etc. We could make TVs as complicated as phones (remember when phones were 
simple?)

Yes, I agree all of those features are good ideas. I'd just expect, due to the 
present state of affairs and past experience with embedded firmware modifying 
FAT16/FAT32/exFAT media, that the device will eventually corrupt the file 
system. And if that happens with exFAT, you're almost certainly SOL. If it 
happens with FAT32, there's a better chance of repairing the file system but it 
also depends how aggressively the device updates both FATs.

Granted, if they're implementing a simple file system this poorly, perhaps 
they'd implement a more sophisticated file system poorly also. But that just 
means the manufacturers are essentially incompetent in this particular area, 
which is my main argument.


The irony is that many of these devices already run Linux under the covers, you 
just can't get to it.

That's interesting. In which case I'd like to think they're using the linux 
kernel's FAT implementation, which shouldn't induce the corruption problems 
I've mentioned. It could become corrupt by removing media while writes are 
still occurring, which is normally in the category of user error. But in the 
context of a consumer device like a TV, in my view it's actually a design flaw 
that a user could induce such corruption. Losing the data that's unwritten is 
understandable, but corrupting the ability to access what was long ago 
successfully written, isn't.

I wonder if any of these linux running products happen to have a kernel with 
other file system support. Documentation might not mention it but maybe ext3 or 
ext4 formatted media would also work (even if not officially supported).


Chris Murphy
My Western Digital Media box exports a CIFS filesystem that I mount on 
my Fedora box, works great, faster than a locally connected USB disk. It 
will also mount a USB disk with ext3 formatted filesystem. I believe 
some people have figured out how to get root on the WD as well (but why 
bother). I like it a lot, it plays almost every video I have.


For reference, here's my F19 box fstab entry for the WD box

//192.168.1.105/WDTVLiveHub /home/jwendel/TVBOX cifs 
user,noauto,credentials=/home/jwendel/bin/samba/credentials,sec=ntlm,uid=1000,file_mode=0644 
0 0


John


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Re: Scrabble??

[John Wendel]

On 11/11/2013 01:35 PM, Beartooth wrote:

 Does anyone know a way to run a Scrabble program on
Fedora? (I realize the obvious existence of Wine and of virtual
machines; but my experience with both has been thoroughly
unsatisfactory; my hope is that a linux-native app may exist.)
   
 There seem to be two proprietary Scrabble programs, one

in which you play against the computer, and one in which you play
against a remote friend. (I don't play Scrabble.)

You might want to check out "Words With Friends", it runs in a browser. 
I don't use it, but my wife keeps a few games going all the time. Might 
require Facebook, not sure.


John

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Re: "Oh no! Something has gone wrong."

[John Wendel]

On 10/30/2013 04:40 PM, Roger wrote:

On 10/31/2013 10:26 AM, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote:


 Hello,

  After a failed attempt to install the manufacturer's nvidia driver, 
my system (Fedora 19, with both Gnome and KDE, on a Lenovo ThinkPad 
T430) does not reach the graphical login screen any more, but instead 
ends up in a white screen with a frowning computer cartoon and the 
message


  "Oh no! Something has gone wrong. A problem occurred and the system 
can't recover. Please contact a system administrator."


  I can still do Ctrl-Alt-F2 to log into text mode. When I try 
startx, I get an empty screen with white or black background and a 
mouse cursor, extending over my two screens (laptop and external). 
When I try startkde it says:


  $DISPLAY is not set or cannot connect to X server.

  The only error in /var/etc/X11.0.log is:

  Failed to load module "nv" (module does not exist, 0)

  In /var/log/messages, there are a bunch of lines like (I'm typing 
by hand):


  gnome-session[2658]: (gnome-shell:2949): Cogl-WARNING **: 
./driver/gl/cogl-framebuffer-gl.c:561: GL error (1282): Invalid 
operation


  Could not find a solution on Google.

  I already reinstalled a bunch of packages, including cogl, gdm, 
gnome-shell, @kde-desktop, xorg-x11-drv-nouveau, kernel, but no change.


  Any advice? Thanks!

 Best,
 Oliver
I remember running into this problem over time with Fedora 16,18 and 
19 so did a fresh install using the standard nouveau driver, then 
when the system was working, followed the instructions on the Fedora 
page to install the nvidia driver.
Apart from a slightly smoother movement of windows and terminals, and 
I usually have quite several open at once, I have seen no real 
benefit from the nvidia video driver.
I believe nvidia has released helpful code to the nouveau devs but 
have no knowledge on the benefits or other.

Roger




The major benefits from the Nvidia driver for me are working power 
management and working vdpau, which lets me play 1080P video smoothly on 
an old Intel core2 cpu. With the nouveau driver, my video card runs 
about 30 degrees hotter, and HD video looks like crap.  Of course, 3D 
rendering is much much faster with the Nvidia driver, but I don't play 
games.


John

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Re: Status of Samsung F2FS support?

[John Wendel]

On 10/13/2013 03:46 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote:

Hi there,

I wonder what is the current status with regards to Samsung F2FS boot 
support. When I first heard about F2FS I thought it'd be a nice 
solution to finally be able to get a full R/W Linux installed on a pen 
drive, without tricks like ram drives...


So far, I haven't seen a Linux distro that allows placing /boot /root 
and /home into a F2FS filesystem.


The ideal scenario would be to boot an install ISO from one pen drive, 
and create a permanent installation on a second pen drive inserted 
into another port, then afterwards boot from that second F2FS 
formatted drive...


Thoughts? Comments? Expletives? ;-)))
FC

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- George Orwell


Build your own kernel with F2FS support built in. Install it on your pen 
drive. Boot.


Regards

John

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Re: External HD and Windows

[John Wendel]

On 09/21/2013 08:45 AM, Geoffrey Leach wrote:

On 09/20/2013 09:14:18 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 09/21/13 12:07, Geoffrey Leach wrote:

I seem to recall that there is a problem with the formatting of some

(all?) external HDs (eSATA and/or USB) that are set up for Windows in
such a way as to make them useless for Linux.

Could someone refresh me? Thanks.

Could you be thinking along the lines of something like this?

Windows makes use of the FAT, NTFS, exFAT and ReFS file systems (the
latter is only supported and usable in Windows Server 2012.

Well, that would be a problem. Of course, my first action would be to format 
the disk for ext3.

Why would you choose ext3 over ext4?

John

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Re: problems in installing Fedora 19

[John Wendel]

On 09/07/2013 03:40 AM, Walter Cazzola wrote:

Dear Fedora experts,
I was going to  install the new Fedora 19 on a old desktop computer but
it hangs after "starting Live Fedora" message. I have tried both x64 and
x32 version without any luck.

My computer is an Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8200 @ 2.66GHz with 2
cores and probably 64bit. 4Gb of RAM and 1Tb of disk. The graphic card
is a nVidia GeForce 9600 GT

Right now the pc is running a old mandriva installation so the hw was
supported at that time.

Any suggestion?

Many thanks in advance.

Walter


I'm running F19 on the exact same hardware configuration, so it does work.
Sorry I can't help with the installation, mine installed without problems.

John

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How to remove nouveau driver without using rpmfusion ?

[John Wendel]

Can someone please post the incantation necessary to remove the nouveau 
driver in Fedora 19. I'd really like to install the driver directly from 
Nvidia, instead of from rpmfusion.


Thanks

John Wendel
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stunnel fails to start

[John Wendel]

Just installed F19, fully updated. Was using F15, successfully.

Now I can't start stunnel. I'm using the stunnel config from my F15 system.

See output below. Any clues will be much appreciated. I really don't get 
the "fingerprint" error, I don't have a fingerprint reader.


Clients allowed=500
stunnel 4.55 on x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu platform
Compiled/running with OpenSSL 1.0.1e-fips 11 Feb 2013
Threading:PTHREAD SSL:+ENGINE+OCSP+FIPS Auth:LIBWRAP Sockets:POLL+IPv6
Reading configuration from file /etc/stunnel/nntp.conf
FIPS_mode_set: 2D06C06E: error:2D06C06E:FIPS 
routines:FIPS_module_mode_set:fingerprint does not match

Line 9: "[nntp]": Failed to initialize SSL
str_stats: 4 block(s), 83 data byte(s), 232 control byte(s)

Thanks,

John Wendel


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Re: Optimization Start Up of Fedora

[John Wendel]

On 01/27/2013 02:58 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 01/27/2013 02:39 PM, carachi diego wrote:


But if I compile the kernel without all unnecessary drivers and packet,
Can I obtain more performance than only disable some service?


You might find this useful: 
http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/blame-game.html


Disabling services you don't need can speed up boot, and is much 
easier in the long run than compiling a customized kernel because you 
only have to do it once.


I run a self-compiled kernel (3.7.4) on my F17 box, I've removed all the 
modules I don't need. I did it because I run Gnome on a 1 GB box and 
need all the memory I can get. I also don't run any services except 
dbus. Gnome still loads a crapload of stuff that I can't remove. My idle 
memory usage (in Gnome) is 130 MB.


It boots at exactly the same speed as the Fedora kernel. Disable all the 
services that you can, and things will boot quicker, but not that much 
quicker. Systemd does a great job of running startup jobs in parallel.  
Because I have an encrypted home, boot time doesn't mean a lot, it takes 
me longer to type the luks password.


John

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Re: howto remove modem-manager ?

[John Wendel]

On 12/20/2012 10:58 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

Hi


On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote:


It is possible to disable modem-manager (but not remove it, if you
need NM). Delete this file:

/usr/share/dbus-1/system-services/org.freedesktop.ModemManager.service


Never do that.  It won't serve the purpose since any update will pull 
it right back in.  If you can't remove a package because of dependency 
but want to be sure to keep it disabled, use systemctl mask 
 instead and in this case, it really shouldn't be 
necessary to do that since it only gets started by NetworkManager if 
you try to establish a new connection using any modem, in-built or 
otherwise. It is also a very small dependency.


Rahul




It doesn't work the way you described on my F17 box, that doesn't have a 
modem or wireless connection. Network-manager always loads modem-manager 
which loads the drivers for every modem and wireless device that it 
knows about (according to the log file). I know it's small, but I'm on a 
1 GB box, and besides, it just bugs me. BTW, systemctl doesn't work with 
modem-manager, so masking it isn't possible.


I finally dumped network-manager and configured the network by hand. 
Much better. Oh well, looking forward to F18 and different triggers for 
my OCD.


Thanks,

John


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Re: howto remove modem-manager ?

[John Wendel]

On 12/20/2012 04:09 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Wed, 2012-12-19 at 20:31 -0800, John Wendel wrote:

On 12/19/2012 07:23 PM, Tim wrote:

On Wed, 2012-12-19 at 17:32 -0800, John Wendel wrote:

Thanks, but in F17, it takes network-manager and anaconda with it. I'm
using network-manager.

Why would anaconda be installed on a system?


Not exactly on topic for my original question. Perhaps you should ask
the person who configured the installer.

I think Tim's point was that you can remove anaconda with no
consequences. In fact my system (F17 fully updated) does not have
anaconda installed, so maybe the OP's system shouldn't have had it in
the first place, IOW it wasn't necessarily placed there by the
installer.

poc

I never installed anaconda, it must have been a dependency for some 
other package I installed,

though I can' imagine what would require it.

But it doesn't matter because I still require network-manager, so I 
can't uninstall modem-manager.


John


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Re: howto remove modem-manager ?

[John Wendel]

On 12/19/2012 07:23 PM, Tim wrote:

On Wed, 2012-12-19 at 17:32 -0800, John Wendel wrote:

Thanks, but in F17, it takes network-manager and anaconda with it. I'm
using network-manager.

Why would anaconda be installed on a system?

Not exactly on topic for my original question. Perhaps you should ask 
the person who configured the installer.


John


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Re: howto remove modem-manager ?

[John Wendel]

On 12/19/2012 05:12 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 12/19/2012 04:37 PM, John Wendel wrote:

Can someone give me an incantation that will make modem-manager go away?
I don't have a modem or wireless network in the box and this thing is
triggering my OCD.



yum provides modem-manager

shows that it's supplied by the package ModemManager.  If you're not 
using it, just have yum remove it.


Thanks, but in F17, it takes network-manager and anaconda with it. I'm 
using network-manager.


John


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howto remove modem-manager ?

[John Wendel]

Can someone give me an incantation that will make modem-manager go away?
I don't have a modem or wireless network in the box and this thing is 
triggering my OCD.


Thanks.

John

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Re: Chromebook?

[John Wendel]

On 12/10/2012 10:09 AM, Charlie Brune wrote:

Has anyone tried to re-load a Chromebook with Fedora?

Does this even make sense?   A $200 Fedora laptop sounds nice. 8-)


The Acer built Chromebook has an Intel processor (celeron I think).

Since Fedora isn't ready for the ARM based models, this looks like the 
way to go.


John


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Re: Multi-Threaded make

[John Wendel]

On 11/28/2012 08:16 PM, JD wrote:


On 11/28/2012 08:21 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote:

On 28Nov2012 15:37, JD  wrote:
| While building the kernel from source RPM, I run
| the command ps -ef | grep make in another terminal,
| and I do see that 4 make processes are running, with
| each one building objects for a different kernel source
| directory.
|
| However, something else seems to be single threaded
| which is causing the huge delay in finishing kernel build.
|
| I found that when I run top to see the upper-most
| cpu consumers, I see only one cc1 process at the top.
|
| So I ran ps again to see how many cc1 processes there
| are.
|
| Always - just one cc1 process.
|
| I would expect to see anywhere from 1 to 4 cc1 processes
| at a time. But that is not the case.
|
| What is forcing only a single instance of cc1 at a time?

Is make running with the "-j 4" (or whatever value) option?

I had already said that after running rpmbuild,
ps -ef shows 4 make processes running.
So, it must be picking up -j4 from somewhere,
perhaps from one of the rpmbuild macros.

But as I also stated, when files are being compiled, one of the stages
of compilation is cc1. Since there are 4 make processes running at a 
time,

with each make process running for one of the dirs containing kernel c
source files, then one woould expect to see anywhere from 1 to cc1
processes running during the build.
I only see a single cc1 process running during the entire kernel build 
duration,

by running ps -ef  | grep cc1
every 5 seconds.

I never see more than a single instance of cc1.



I can't help with this question, but I build a new kernel (from 
kernel.org) whenever they appear.
This never takes more than 5 or 6 minutes on a slow 2-cpu AMD box with 
only 1 GB memory.  I usually

don't specify "-j", so I only have one process running.

I think you're seeing something seriously broken if your builds are 
taking a huge amount of time.


Regards,

John


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Re: mounting one usb interface (from 2 identified)

[John Wendel]

On 11/22/2012 06:41 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:

sudo mount  /dev/sdb /mnt/myusb


The "blkid" command will give you more info about the device

sudo blkid -p /dev/sdb

will show you the partition type ( like PTTYPE="dos" ), if there is one.

sudo blkid -p /dev/sdb1

will show you the filesystem type of partition 1

/dev/sdd1: LABEL="WD1000" UUID="694b6f8b-42e6-49e8-be51-5806e5e315e9" 
SEC_TYPE="ext2" VERSION="1.0" TYPE="ext3" USAGE="filesystem" 
PART_ENTRY_SCHEME="dos" PART_ENTRY_TYPE="0x83" PART_ENTRY_NUMBER="1"


try

sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/myusb

The -t argument takes a filesystem type - "vfat" is very commonly used 
on usb devices, so try


sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /mnt/myusb

But mount should figure this out automagically.

Regards,

John


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Re: mounting one usb interface (from 2 identified)

[John Wendel]

On 11/22/2012 02:38 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:

On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 15:57:46 -0600 Ranjan Maitra
 wrote:


Hi,

Following up on my previous e-mail, I wanted to mention that two usb
interfaces are being recognized. Here is the relevant output of

% usb-devices

T:  Bus=01 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=02 Cnt=01 Dev#= 15 Spd=480 MxCh= 0
D:  Ver= 2.00 Cls=00(>ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs=  1
P:  Vendor=0bb4 ProdID=0c02 Rev=02.22
S:  Manufacturer=ARNOVA 10
S:  Product=ARNOVA 10
S:  SerialNumber=11223344
C:  #Ifs= 2 Cfg#= 1 Atr=e0 MxPwr=256mA
I:  If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 2 Cls=08(stor.) Sub=06 Prot=50
Driver=usb-storage
I:  If#= 1 Alt= 0 #EPs= 2 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=42
Prot=01 Driver=(none)

I want to mount this as a USB storage device, so that i can access the
filesystem.

Question: How do I mount the first interface?

Sorry to add to my e-mail, the output of lsusb -v is as follows:

$ lsusb -v -s 001:024

Bus 001 Device 024: ID 0bb4:0c02 High Tech Computer Corp. Dream /
ADP1 / G1 / Magic / Tattoo (Debug) Couldn't open device, some
information will be missing Device Descriptor:
   bLength18
   bDescriptorType 1
   bcdUSB   2.00
   bDeviceClass0 (Defined at Interface level)
   bDeviceSubClass 0
   bDeviceProtocol 0
   bMaxPacketSize064
   idVendor   0x0bb4 High Tech Computer Corp.
   idProduct  0x0c02 Dream / ADP1 / G1 / Magic / Tattoo (Debug)
   bcdDevice2.22
   iManufacturer   1
   iProduct2
   iSerial 3
   bNumConfigurations  1
   Configuration Descriptor:
 bLength 9
 bDescriptorType 2
 wTotalLength   55
 bNumInterfaces  2
 bConfigurationValue 1
 iConfiguration  0
 bmAttributes 0xe0
   Self Powered
   Remote Wakeup
 MaxPower  256mA
 Interface Descriptor:
   bLength 9
   bDescriptorType 4
   bInterfaceNumber0
   bAlternateSetting   0
   bNumEndpoints   2
   bInterfaceClass 8 Mass Storage
   bInterfaceSubClass  6 SCSI
   bInterfaceProtocol 80 Bulk (Zip)
   iInterface  0
   Endpoint Descriptor:
 bLength 7
 bDescriptorType 5
 bEndpointAddress 0x81  EP 1 IN
 bmAttributes2
   Transfer TypeBulk
   Synch Type   None
   Usage Type   Data
 wMaxPacketSize 0x0200  1x 512 bytes
 bInterval   0
   Endpoint Descriptor:
 bLength 7
 bDescriptorType 5
 bEndpointAddress 0x02  EP 2 OUT
 bmAttributes2
   Transfer TypeBulk
   Synch Type   None
   Usage Type   Data
 wMaxPacketSize 0x0200  1x 512 bytes
 bInterval   1
 Interface Descriptor:
   bLength 9
   bDescriptorType 4
   bInterfaceNumber1
   bAlternateSetting   0
   bNumEndpoints   2
   bInterfaceClass   255 Vendor Specific Class
   bInterfaceSubClass 66
   bInterfaceProtocol  1
   iInterface  0
   Endpoint Descriptor:
 bLength 7
 bDescriptorType 5
 bEndpointAddress 0x83  EP 3 IN
 bmAttributes2
   Transfer TypeBulk
   Synch Type   None
   Usage Type   Data
 wMaxPacketSize 0x0040  1x 64 bytes
 bInterval   0
   Endpoint Descriptor:
 bLength 7
 bDescriptorType 5
 bEndpointAddress 0x04  EP 4 OUT
 bmAttributes2
   Transfer TypeBulk
   Synch Type   None
   Usage Type   Data
 wMaxPacketSize 0x0200  1x 512 bytes
 bInterval   0


And the output of:

$ lsusb -D /dev/bus/usb/001/001
Device: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Couldn't open device, some information will be missing
Device Descriptor:
   bLength18
   bDescriptorType 1
   bcdUSB   2.00
   bDeviceClass9 Hub
   bDeviceSubClass 0 Unused
   bDeviceProtocol 0 Full speed (or root) hub
   bMaxPacketSize064
   idVendor   0x1d6b Linux Foundation
   idProduct  0x0002 2.0 root hub
   bcdDevice3.06
   iManufacturer   3
   iProduct2
   iSerial 1
   bNumConfigurations  1
   Configuration Descriptor:
 bLength 9
 bDescriptorType 2
 wTotalLength   25
 bNumInterfaces  1
 bConfigurationValue 1
 iConfiguration

Re: How to find the definition of a string in /usr/include ?

[John Wendel]

On 11/03/2012 07:38 PM, r...@dwf.com wrote:

How do I find the definition of a string in /usr/include?

OK, there has got to be a better way to do this than with find and
grep (which isnt working).  BUT how does one find the definition
of a string in /usr/include ???

In particular, I KNOW that month is defined SOMEWHERE, but Im
not finding in in the obvious (to me) places.

So how do I find 'Mo' or perhaps better yet 'Mo[' in /usr incude?

Is there a database that contains this information?


cd /usr/include
grep -ri month *

Regards,

John


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Re: a friendly nudge to stay on topic

[John Wendel]

On 10/03/2012 07:23 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:

On 10/03/2012 11:12 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
Hey everyone. While issues about the motivations behind free and open 
source
software are very relevant to Fedora, an extended left/right debate 
isn't.


We're not going to solve that here. Let's stipulate that reasonable 
people

can disagree on the big political issues and leave them aside for this
mailing list, and work together to build and use Fedora regardless of 
our

motivations.

Thanks!

Well said!That being said I have a "stoopid" question: Will 
there ever be a time when vendors will sell "Fedora" equipped laptops 
/ desktops / servers?.just curious is allas opposed to having 
to buy the hardware and then install Fedora yourself that is...



EGO II
ZaReason will sell you one with Fedora 17 installed (or ubuntu, Suse, 
debian, ...). See their web site, zareason.com.


John


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F17 - Sound quit working

[John Wendel]

Fedora 17 with updates from "updates testing".

My sound stopped working with the latest set of updates. The sound 
device files don't get created, except for the "timer", and the sound 
drivers don't get loaded.


The only error message I can find is in the messages log, "udevd[382]: 
Error running install command for snd_pcm".


I fixed the problem by creating the /dev/snd files and running modprobe 
for the kernel modules.


Anyone else seeing this problem? If it isn't just me I'll bugzilla.

Thanks,

John


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Re: Screen resolution

[John Wendel]

On 09/04/2012 05:23 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:

I have what I suspect is a very ignorant question
about the display resolution on my Thinkpad T60 (running Fedora-17/KDE),
which I find too high for my aging eyesight.

When I go to System Settings=>Hardware=>Display and Monitor
on my Thinkpad T60 (Fedora 17/KDE) I am told that the Size is set to
   1680x1050 (Auto)

I see from 
that this setting is WSXGA+
(Widescreen Super Extended Graphics Array Plus)
with aspect ration 16:10.

Am I right in thinking (from the use of the word "Auto")
that this is the hardware resolution of the LCD screen?

And if so, is it best to keep to that resolution
and modify font size to make text on the display more readable?
Or is it equally reasonable to change the display size?

I dont' think 1680 x 1050 is the correct native resolution for your 
display, unless yours has a different resolution from the one I had. 
Mine was 1400 x 1050. Sorry I don't have it any more, so I can't provide 
more details.


You should check your specs and set the resolution to the native screen 
resolution. Then adjust the font size for readability.


Regards,

John


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Re: Fedora NTFS-3G happily writes files with invalid chars in filename?

[John Wendel]

On 09/01/2012 12:20 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 09/01/2012 11:28 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote:

Now I connect the external usb NTFS-formatted drive to my old xpsp3
running netbook and stumble upon a file (a folder actually under
.cache\vlc\art\artistalbum\The Rapture\How Deep is Your Love?
that ABSOLUTELY can´t be removed from WinXP, as windows thinks
question marks are an "invalid character" in a file or folder name.


Of course it's an invalid character for XP, just as it is for Linux. 
The question mark is a wildcard, used to represent one unknown 
character, just as an asterisk is used to represent any number of 
unknown characters.  Thus, test?.txt will match test1.txt or test2.txt 
but not test12.txt.  Have you tried putting quotation marks around the 
name to keep it from being expanded?


Actually, '?' is not "an invalid character" in a Linux filename. Only 
"/" and the NULL character (0) are invalid in filenames.


Regards,

John


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Re: Help with mke2fs

[John Wendel]

On 08/18/2012 05:50 PM, Roger Heflin wrote:

On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 6:51 PM, John Wendel  wrote:

I'm formatting a filesystem on a new 2TB disk. It will be used to store
video, so it will just contain a relatively few large files (200KB to 10GB).
So, worst case, i need 1 inodes.

First I used the option "-i 10", this resulted in 20 million inodes in
the filesystem.
Next I used the option "-N 3", this resulted in 238,000 inodes.

Is the math broken in e2fsck, or am I doing something stupid?


There is a lower limit to how far you can go.

Using -N 3 should have got you there.

The last time I messed with it (5+ years ago) the limit was 4MB/inode
and when you gave it an N value lower than that, you got the 4MB/inode
value.

It sounds like the limit is now 8MB/inode as that would give you about
238k inodes on around 2TB...
Thanks! I can live with it. Just wanted to know if I was getting senile 
or what.


John


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Help with mke2fs

[John Wendel]

I'm formatting a filesystem on a new 2TB disk. It will be used to store 
video, so it will just contain a relatively few large files (200KB to 
10GB). So, worst case, i need 1 inodes.


First I used the option "-i 10", this resulted in 20 million inodes 
in the filesystem.

Next I used the option "-N 3", this resulted in 238,000 inodes.

Is the math broken in e2fsck, or am I doing something stupid?

Thanks,

John

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Re: Moonlight/Silverlight addition for Linux Firefox?

[John Wendel]

On 08/05/2012 07:38 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote:

On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 9:14 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
 wrote:

.Is there a "Made For Linux" version of flash and java stuff?.wasn't
that supposed to be the Moonlight's job?

Why do you mix Java with Microsoft´s propietary crap?. Java is GPL
open source since late 2006 when Sun micro open sourced it. Most
distros nowaday carry OpenJDK, which is the reference implementation
of Java 7 by Oracle...

Moonlight along with Mono are a byproduct of Novell´s love affair with
Redmondia...

FC
I wouldn't call it a "love affair", unless you think that a prostitute 
is motivated by love for their client. It's all about the money.


John

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Re: Linux or GNU/Linux

[John Wendel]

On 07/29/2012 10:09 PM, Junayeed Ahnaf Nirjhor wrote:

Hello all,

Just thought about asking you guys what the actual name is, Linux or 
GNU/Linux (In our Bangladeshi community, we're really divided on this 
issue).


I personally prefer Linux , what do you think?
--
Junayeed Ahnaf Nirjhor
Developer, Hulu  & Diaspora 


Twitter - @Nirjhor 


It's possible to have a Linux OS based system that doesn't use any of 
the GNU libraries or apps. In this case, GNU/Linux would be 
inappropriate. Fedora is not such a system.


John


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Re: Missing Something.....

[John Wendel]

On 07/14/2012 08:12 PM, Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I wrote:


On 07/13/2012 06:14 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 07/13/2012 05:18 PM, Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I wrote:
Well in all actuality I "started" off with "Fusion" Linux version 
14but after
upgrading to the "straight" version of FC15I then went to the 
straight version
of FC16...and THAT'S when I started getting the error message with 
telepathy, and
ever since deleting it, which was last night I haven't seen it 
since, and I can
still use Pidgin...so once again thanks...and should I have any more 
puzzling

questions I'll be seeking you o0ut for more Fedora Wisdom!
Yes, the removal will fix that issue.  Still, based on what you've 
said, it may be a

good idea to run yum distro-sync at some point.




Cool! Thanx! I will, I'm also wondering if there's some way to "tidy" 
up my computer in general, I mean I know there's no official 
"defragmenter" for Linux, but what would delete all the unnecessary 
files that are amassed over time? Surely they're not all listed in the 
"tmp" folder!.I apologize for constantly trying to pick your brain 
and all, but I just believe in killing as many birds with the fewest 
stones possible, and I figure since I have you "on the line" then I'd 
give it my best shot!



EGO II


Yum install bleachbit. Be careful what you choose to delete.

John


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Re: Tuesday morning fun (can't get to gdm login prompt)

[John Wendel]

On 07/10/2012 07:05 AM, Brian Johnson wrote:

Happy Tuesday all,

So, an interesting thing happened to me when I came into work this 
morningmy computer was sitting at the password prompt to unencrypt 
my disk so I could continue booting my machine. Apparently we had a 
power outage at work last night.


So, I put in my encrcyption password and continued to watch it boot 
up. It went, and went, and went and right when I thought it was going 
to give me my login prompt, it...stopped. My mouse cursur is just a 
spinning ball of wait. I'm never given the opportunity to log in, it's 
just a black screen with my spinning cursor.


I've tried each of the different kernels on my computer, all PAE -- 
3.4.0-1, 3.4.4-3, and 3.4.4-5, and nothing seems to change.


However, I was just able to boot into runlevel 3, log in as myself, 
and run 'startx' and get in that way. When I do it, though, it runs 
*very* sluggish. Gnome-shell, with nothing but an xterm, is running 
~65% cpu and my load average is running at 2.16.


I can't find anything that might have been updated that would explain 
the issue. I have 3 machines all running Fedora 17, one of which I 
know is completely up to date as my work computer is, and I don't see 
the issue on it (had a power outage at the house this morning, so I 
had to reboot the one at home as well).


Any thoughts greatly appreciated, thanks!

Brian


Starting Gnome from runlevel 3 always results in cpu-hog gnome shell 
here. I submitted a bugzilla report (don't have the id handy).  So far, 
no help. Maybe you could add some comments.


John


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Re: Is it possible to setup read-only root ?

[John Wendel]

On 07/01/2012 12:17 PM, jdow wrote:

[SNIP]



The equivalent is done with live CDs you know.

{^_^}


I think you just supplied the answer! I didn't think of it, but the 
equivalent of a live CD is exactly what I need. Now I just need to 
figure out how to build a live CD like system, minus the compressed 
filesystem stuff and I should be there.


I should have mentioned earlier that this box is going to be a dedicated 
media player, with the compact flash drive as it's only disc. I know I 
should probably just use openelec or geexbox, but that would take all 
the fun out of it. I will try to steal the init system from one of these 
dedicated distributions, but I really want to build the system with 
Fedora packages as much as possible.


Thanks everyone for sharing your knowledge.

John


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Re: Is it possible to setup read-only root ?

[John Wendel]

On 07/01/2012 10:11 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:


Am 01.07.2012 19:08, schrieb Joe Zeff:

On 07/01/2012 10:01 AM, John Wendel wrote:

Is it possible to setup Fedora, using Fedora provided tools/software,
with a read-only root partition?

There's an ancient wiki entry from the FC6 days that indicates that some
work was done, but I would assume that this depended on the SysV init
system. I've haven't seen any mention of read-only root setup with systemd.

Any clues would be greatly appreciated.


If I'm not mistaken, /var needs to be on that partition and needs to be 
writable.

it is not uncommon to have /var on a own partition


If so, then you can't have a
read-only root partition.

it works, but be really carefull


And, just so we all know where we're going here, why would you want to?

in theory more security

imagine a root-exploit changing a system binary
much more difficult if the rootfs is readonly



Extra security is certainly a plus. My main reason for wanting to run a 
read-only root it to avoid wearing out the consumer grade compact flash 
card that I'm using as my root device (yes, I'm cheap).


Regards,

John


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Is it possible to setup read-only root ?

[John Wendel]

Is it possible to setup Fedora, using Fedora provided tools/software, 
with a read-only root partition?


There's an ancient wiki entry from the FC6 days that indicates that some 
work was done, but I would assume that this depended on the SysV init 
system. I've haven't seen any mention of read-only root setup with systemd.


Any clues would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

John
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I need help starting Gnome3 in runlevel 3

[John Wendel]

I like starting by box in runlevel 3 and using startx to get the desktop 
running. I created .xinitrc with the contents being "exec 
gnome-session"; the desktop starts, but gnome-shell loops consuming 145% 
of 2 cpus. Needless to say, the system isn't very usable.


If I run init 5, and go thru gdm, the desktop runs fine, but I'm trying 
to eliminate unnecessary processes, and I really don't want to run gdm.


Can someone share the spell that will get Gnome running correctly using 
startx?


Thanks,

John

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Re: Fedora 17

[John Wendel]

On 06/17/2012 01:43 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote:

On Sun, 2012-06-17 at 13:20 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:

Ed Greshko wrote:


That's a decision you have to make for yourself.  You've read about all
the
"problems" and the "dislikes".

In this fairly long thread,
I haven't seen a single problem or dislike mentioned -
just that there are apparently "lots" of them.


How about these:


[snipped list of problems]

Have you tried the "cinnamon" desktop? I think it addresses all your 
complaints. I'm liking it a lot.



http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/leigh123linux/cinnamon/fedora-17/


Regards,

John



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Re: Modem manager is bugging me

[John Wendel]

On 06/13/2012 09:02 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 06/14/2012 11:12 AM, John Wendel wrote:

Nwtwork manager is also loading a bunch of wireless networking modules, which I
also don't have, but I bitch about that in another post.

Thanks for the reply.

OK  I have an answer for you.

Edit the file

/usr/share/dbus-1/system-services/org.freedesktop.ModemManager.service

And comment out the line

Exec=/usr/sbin/modem-manager

This will stop modem-manager from running and the plugins being loaded.  Please 
note
that this file will probably be replaced on a yum update when/if the 
ModemManager
package is updated.


Thank you very much! I really appreciate the help.

John
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Re: Modem manager is bugging me

[John Wendel]

On 06/13/2012 07:46 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 06/14/2012 10:16 AM, John Wendel wrote:

Anybody know how to tell network manager to not load modem manager?

I don't have a modem, but modem manager and all of its plugin drivers get 
loaded.
I'm trying put this pig on a diet, but not having a lot of luck.



Can we safely assume that you are talking about F17 and ModemManager which is 
part of
KDE?

I really don't know anything about ModemManager.  So, could you enlighten me 
about
what you are seeing?  How do you know the plugins are being loaded and how much
resources they are taking?

Does this mean when you bring up Network Manger and click on "Manage 
Connections"
that the "Mobile Boradband" tab is not grayed out?

Thanks.



Sorry for the lack of detail in the original post.

The system is running F17 with Gnome. Modem manager is a process that 
gets loaded by network manager. In /var/log/messages, I see modem 
manager and  a bunch of plugins (with modem names) being loaded by 
network manager.  I don't know if it consumes any resources (except 
memory) since I don't have a modem for it to manage, but I want it to go 
away.


Nwtwork manager is also loading a bunch of wireless networking modules, 
which I also don't have, but I bitch about that in another post.


Thanks for the reply.

John
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Modem manager is bugging me

[John Wendel]

Anybody know how to tell network manager to not load modem manager?

I don't have a modem, but modem manager and all of its plugin drivers 
get loaded. I'm trying put this pig on a diet, but not having a lot of luck.


Thanks,

John Wendel

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Re: back button in firefox?

[John Wendel]

On 06/13/2012 10:02 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:

Has anyone else noticed that the "back" button in firefox on
fedora 17 rarely if ever does anything the first time you click it?

I seem to always need to click it multiple times before it actually
goes back to the previous page.


I'm running Aurora (FF 15alpha) from the mozilla tarball. I highly 
recommend it, if the extensions you like work.
It's rock solid, very fast, and the back button works fine. And you'll 
be helping mozilla developers.


John

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Re: Moving from 32-bit to 64-bit Fedora

[John Wendel]

On 06/11/2012 03:05 PM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:

Reindl Harald  writes:

the better road would be drop i686 completly over the long

the last 4 years not a single i686 package installed
and the world still turns - i686 was yesterday

I agree fully with the sentiment that no x86_64 capable computer
should be running 32-bit code.  Everybody has more than 1G memory and
according to folks that know these things, that's where the kernel
starts thrashing the page tables.

Unfortunately there still are some 32-bit only mini laptops sold.  A
friend bought one a one or two years ago much to my disgust.  I thought
I was free of maintaining 32-bit system and then this thing shows up
forcing me to keep a second set of install images on hand.  Yuck.

Sadly, before Fedora Smolt went down, it still showed more 32-bit than
64-bit installs.  Fedora doesn't do enough to encourage everyone that
can run to to run it.

-wolfgang

No, everybody doesn't have more than 1G memory.  Sad, me :(

F17 - Gnome 3 - 32-bit runs fine on my 1G memory box, especially after I
replaced the Fedora shipped kernel with 3.4 from kernel.org.

I also have 64-bit Fedora running on another box and I really can't tell 
the difference.


John

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Re: I need help stting up a smart card login

[John Wendel]

On 05/08/2012 08:59 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 05/09/2012 11:42 AM, John Wendel wrote:

F16 with latest updates - Dell smart card reader keyboard

Problem: I can't get smart card login working

I'm pretty sure I have all the pieces installed. The card can be read by several
command line utilities (can't rember their names at the moment).

[1] escd, pcscd running
[2] Smart card works fine in Firefox
[3] GDM doesn't use smart card for login
[4] Running Smart Card Manager throws error dialogs

 dialog 1: Can't get UniversalXPConnect.TypeError:
Components.classes['@redhat.com/rhCoolKey;1'] is undefined
 dialog 2: coolkey.GetAvailableCoolKeys() failed! undefined(undefined)
 dialog 3: e TypeError: Components.classes['@redhat.com/rhTray;1'] is 
undefined

 Smart card manager window opens

 SMART CARD DIAGNOSTICS REPORT

 ***Software Version Information***

  Smart Card Manager Version: null
  System Versions: mozilla/5.0 (x11; linux i686; rv:12.0) gecko/20100101
esc/1.1.0-15

 ***Active Smart Card Details***

   Number of Smart Cards Detected: 0

 ***Smart Card Activity***
 No log file or log file has no data.

 dialog 4: Can't get UniversalXPConnect.TypeError: netkey is undefined

Any help will be greatly appreciated.



I know I'm not being very helpful  But this question never seemed to get an
answer either

http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2012-January/411824.html

But  I did see that plugins for gdm were available for F15  I wonder if 
that
will help?  Maybe get the source and try to compile for F16?

http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/16021715/dir/fedora_15/com/gdm-plugin-smartcard-3.0.4-1.fc15.x86_64.rpm.html

Thanks Ed, I'll give it a try. But since smart card manager doesn't 
work, I think the problem
is at a layer below GDM. The January post mentions opensc, I'll also 
give that a try.


John

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I need help stting up a smart card login

[John Wendel]

F16 with latest updates - Dell smart card reader keyboard

Problem: I can't get smart card login working

I'm pretty sure I have all the pieces installed. The card can be read by 
several command line utilities (can't rember their names at the moment).


[1] escd, pcscd running
[2] Smart card works fine in Firefox
[3] GDM doesn't use smart card for login
[4] Running Smart Card Manager throws error dialogs

dialog 1: Can't get UniversalXPConnect.TypeError: 
Components.classes['@redhat.com/rhCoolKey;1'] is undefined

dialog 2: coolkey.GetAvailableCoolKeys() failed! undefined(undefined)
dialog 3: e TypeError: Components.classes['@redhat.com/rhTray;1'] 
is undefined


Smart card manager window opens

SMART CARD DIAGNOSTICS REPORT

***Software Version Information***

 Smart Card Manager Version: null
 System Versions: mozilla/5.0 (x11; linux i686; rv:12.0) 
gecko/20100101 esc/1.1.0-15


***Active Smart Card Details***

  Number of Smart Cards Detected: 0

***Smart Card Activity***
No log file or log file has no data.

dialog 4: Can't get UniversalXPConnect.TypeError: netkey is undefined

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

John



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Re: off topic: combined output of concurrent processes

[John Wendel]

On 04/14/2012 08:20 AM, Amadeus W.M. wrote:

If you really would like to get output in sequence, write to a pipe, and
have a reader process drain the pipe to a logfile.  It's pretty easy;
look at "mknod" with the 'p' option, or "mkfifo".  I'd still suggest
tagging each output line with an identifier and sequence number.


For the sake of the argument, assume I echo 500 As, 500 Bs and 500 Cs.

I don't care which process the output is coming from. It doesn't matter
which order the As, Bs and Cs are output. All I care about is that I
don't get 349As followed by 245Bs, etc. I want to see blocks of 500 each.

I don't see how echoing into a pipe would change the problem.
Theoretically, if several processes (e.g. echo) are running in the
background, e.g. on a round robin basis, then potentially I could see
random sequences of As, Bs and Cs. It doesn't seem to be the case in
practice though. So which is it?

This has to do with the operating system internals, it's not a trivial
question.


Actually it is semi-non-trivial. :-)

Unix/Linux makes the following guarantee ...

Multiple processes that open the same file for writing each maintain 
their own file positions, so they may overwrite the output of another 
process, unless the processes all open the file with the "O_APPEND" 
option. With the "O_APPEND" option, the system guarantees that the 
entire data from a single write by a process will be written to the end 
of the file as a indivisible block and will not be mixed with the output 
from another process. Without "O_APPEND", data from multiple processes 
may be intermixed in any order, or may seem to "disappear" (is 
overwritten by other data).


Of course, if you didn't write the code that is doing the output, you'll 
have to examine the source to see if it uses the "O_APPEND" open option. 
This may be non-trivial.


Regards,

John

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Re: Fedora 16 killed my eth0 ?

[John Wendel]

On 04/05/2012 01:50 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 22:36:55 +0200
Reindl Harald wrote:


well, but how to act that fedora developers realize
that their "improvements" are often not more and
not less as damage to well working things?

Who know? But at least I have an outlet where
I write up my linux feelings and discoveries:

http://home.comcast.net/~tomhorsley/game/game-of-linux.html

:-).
Nice web site! Your Gnome3 rant made my nose into a coffee volcano. Too 
bad it was the truth.


John

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Re: Can't install nvidia drivers at runlevel3

[John Wendel]

On 03/23/2012 08:31 AM, John Horne wrote:

On Fri, 2012-03-23 at 08:47 -0600, Lawrence Graves wrote:


On 03/23/2012 08:43 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:

Am 23.03.2012 15:40, schrieb Lawrence Graves:

I don't know what happened but I am now unable to install nvidia drivers 
downloaded from nvidia.com. Had no problem
until the latest kernel was introduced. Please advise or help.

in other words this happens since update to kernel 3.3
well, i guess the bvidia drivers are not ready for it

get rid of nvidia graphics

the current intel sandy brdige are working fine out
of the box with 3D effects - do not buy hardware
which depends on third-party drivers or do not use
a bleeding-edge distro if you like BLOB drivers




I agree, I believe it is time for me to scrap my Dell 9400 Inspiron
with its FX2500m graphic video card and invest in a newer model. I am
going to miss her. She has been very dependable.


Likewise (time to scrap...). I can't run the latest F15 kernel because
I'm still waiting on the nvidia drivers, and the 100% CPU problem I have
is happening pretty much whenever I go near a web site (see previous
post about this). At work my F15 PC with Intel graphics has no such
problems.

(Generally my home PC is okay, so I should only need to replace the
graphics card :-) )



John.

I run the latest Nvidia drivers with F15 latest kernel. Since you're on 
F15, updates are going to stop soon, so just get the drivers direct from 
Nvidia. They work great for me.


John

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Re: F16 - Crashtastic

[John Wendel]

On 02/17/2012 01:34 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:

On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 07:32:18 -0600, RM (Ranjan) wrote:


On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 20:24:59 -0800, JW (John) wrote:


My F16 - Gnome box has developed an ugly bug today with the latest
updates (from updates-testing).

Randomly, but very frequently, when I close a window, the windowing
system hangs. I can move the mouse, and ctrl-alt-bksp works to kill X
and restart GDM. Nothing interesting in the X log file. All other window
actions like minimize and maximize work fine.

I'd like to report a bug, but I'm not sure where to point the finger.
Can someone suggest a method of identifying the buggy program so I can
report it?

Too many packages from updates-testing? Or would it be feasible to
"yum history undo…" the latest updates and then reapply them in smaller
groups to narrow it down?
Alternatively, "yum distro-sync --disablerepo=updates-testing" can be
helpful to revert, especially if you believe you cannot reproduce the
problem prior to installing test-updates.
--

HI,

Just to mention, I don't download from the updates-testing repo, so how
will this help?

The original poster, John, mentioned "updates-testing". I replied to his
thread and don't know your particular scenario.

But even if not installing any test updates, you can rollback/uninstall
updates and try to narrow down which one is the culprit. "yum history"
can be helpful.

I backed out all the updates and re-installed them one at a time ( 
thanks Michael ), testing after each one. Of course, now I can't 
reproduce the problem.  Is it possible that I picked up a fixed version 
of GTK3?  Oh well, I'm working again, so I should be happy.


Thanks!

John

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F16 - Crashtastic

[John Wendel]

My F16 - Gnome box has developed an ugly bug today with the latest 
updates (from updates-testing).


Randomly, but very frequently, when I close a window, the windowing 
system hangs. I can move the mouse, and ctrl-alt-bksp works to kill X 
and restart GDM. Nothing interesting in the X log file. All other window 
actions like minimize and maximize work fine.


I'd like to report a bug, but I'm not sure where to point the finger.  
Can someone suggest a method of identifying the buggy program so I can 
report it?


Thanks,

John

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Re: Router help please - Linksys Windows only?

[John Wendel]

On 02/04/2012 04:11 PM, don fisher wrote:

On 02/04/12 17:07, Paul Allen Newell wrote:

On 2/4/2012 4:04 PM, don fisher wrote:

Paul,

It is an E4200. Sorry for not mentioning it. It is described in detail
in the link I referenced.

Don



Don:

Hopefully someone will report a success with 'N' ... or at least a
confirm that there is something not behaving in the E4200

Paul

Paul,

Did you look at stream of emails I referenced? I took that as 
confirmation of the problem. Was that a bad move? Not sure of the 
etiquette here.


Don



Do you really need to use avahi? I always disable it myself, one less 
thing to break.


Regards,

John

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Re: converting base64 emails back to text

[John Wendel]

On 01/09/2012 03:14 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 01/10/2012 06:06 AM, g wrote:

greetings,

now that fedora project has started sending emails as;

}} Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
}} Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64

is there a way to convert emails back to text so that local searching of
emails can be done?

searching on "Subject:" seldom provides a means to find what a post is
actually about.

You may have to do some splitting of the message to separate the encoded
parts...  But the encoded parts can always be un-encoded using something
like the perl MIME::Base64 module.  That module is not part of the
distro, but could be gotten from CPAN.

I've not looked at what they do since I've not had a need, but you can
also investigate these that do come with as part of the distro.

perl-Email-MIME
perl-Email-MIME-Attachment-Stripper
perl-Email-MIME-ContentType
perl-Email-MIME-Encodings




"man base64" should get you going. It's a little easier than the perl stuff.

John

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Re: F15: named using 90+% cpu

[John Wendel]

On 01/07/2012 03:26 PM, sean darcy wrote:

On 01/07/2012 06:07 PM, John Wendel wrote:

On 01/07/2012 10:28 AM, sean darcy wrote:

I've a recursive nameserver under no load taking 90% or more of the
cpu. I've restarted, no joy.

There's an rsync task in the background, but nothing else.

What's going on?

sean

PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
12766 named 20 0 237m 27m 2732 S 90.7 2.8 1352:27 named


[snip]


strace -p , might give you a clue.

John




Here's strace. Left it running for about a minute. What could this mean?

strace  -p 12766
Process 12766 attached - interrupt to quit
rt_sigsuspend([]^C 
Process 12766 detached

sean

Since it isn't making any system calls (which would show up in strace), 
it must be in a tight loop in the code. Time to attach a debugger, but 
to get anything meaningful, you would need to be running a version of 
the program compiled with debugging enabled.  Maybe someone smarter than 
me can offer some more useful advice.


Regards,

John

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Re: F15: named using 90+% cpu

[John Wendel]

On 01/07/2012 10:28 AM, sean darcy wrote:
I've a recursive nameserver under no load taking 90% or more of the 
cpu. I've restarted, no joy.


There's an rsync task in the background, but nothing else.

What's going on?

sean

  PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  COMMAND
12766 named 20   0  237m  27m 2732 S 90.7  2.8   1352:27 named


[snip]


strace -p , might give you a clue.

John


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Can I install a 64-bit kernel on a F16 32-bit system

[John Wendel]

I just bought more memory for a box that has F16 32-bit installed. Can I 
install a 64-bit kernel and leave the userland 32-bit?


Thanks,

John

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[OT] Hybrid 64/32 kernel ???

[John Wendel]

Sorry if this is too off topic, but it's bugging me and I can't find it 
on Google ...


I saw a post/web page somewhere (can't find it now) that seemed to say 
that some kernel gods were working on a kernel with a "new" memory model 
(which I didn't understand).  If someone knows anything about this, can 
you post a link.


Thanks,

John

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Re: External drive partitioning problems

[John Wendel]

On 12/11/2011 10:42 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


I have not used fdisk for a LNG time, and could not remember the 
commands, but -l would probably provide a list of what was there, so I 
did that.  'm' for listing the options.  Menu?


Anyway, thanks, o did the trick, I now have a 1Gb EXT4 partition.  
Thing is, after the formatting as EXT4, 50Gb is used with nothing on 
the disk!




So, what options did you use when you ran mke2fs? By default 5% of the 
disk is "reserved for root", totally stupid default. Use tune2fs -m 0 to 
recover this space.


Regards,

John

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Re: Tablet Acer Iconia W500, anyone?

[John Wendel]

On 11/29/2011 11:36 AM, ferna...@lozano.eti.br wrote:

Hi there,

Googling around I found with a little work I can run Fedora on that 
Tablet. Only wish it didn't came with Windows Pro, I could save a few 
bucks if it was Windows Home Basic.


Anyone on the list tried this? Do you think this machine with F15 or 
F16 would be a useable tablet? Andoid is not yet open enough for my 
taste ;-)



[]s, Fernando Lozano



It's my understanding that Google has released the complete source for 
the latest Android. Someone please correct if I'm wrong.


John

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Putting Gnome on a diet

[John Wendel]

Gnome3 starts a lot of daemon processes that I'd like to get rid of. 
Currently, I just chmod 644 the executables in /usr/libexec. Could 
someone please tell me the "correct" way to configure Gnome so it 
doesn't run daemons that I don't want/need.

Thanks,

John

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Re: System hang under F16

[John Wendel]

On 11/18/2011 04:18 PM, Deron Meranda wrote:
>>> today, twice, the system has hung completely as I opened a
>>> new window. The new window was different on the two occasions;
> I have no idea if it is related, but twice with F16 I've had Gnome
> completely lock up. The mouse pointer would move, but otherwise the
> screen was completely unresponsive, not even any of the keyboard hot
> keys would work (Alt-F*, ctrl-alt-del, etc).
>
> However the OS was still running, and I could ssh in from another
> machine. After killing the gnome session processes everything would be
> okay, no reboot needed.
>
> When it locked it up I was usually "playing" pretty hard with the
> gnome interface, opening and closing windows quickly, etc.  I do use
> emacs, but none of my lockups involved interaction with any emacs
> windows.
>
> Using gnome-shell-3.2.1-2.fc16.x86_64
>
I've had a few gnome-shell hangs with f16. In all cases, 
ctrl-alt-backspace worked to kill it and it then restarted.

Regards,

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yum update killed ssh

[John Wendel]

Just a heads up.

I'm pretty sloppy about keeping track of updates, so I don't have the 
details at hand, but the latest update of glibc from updates-testing 
killed ssh and scp.  I guess it happened this morning. Symptom was libc 
reporting ssh freeing bad pointer. Yum downgrade glibc fixed the problem.

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Network manager won't reconnect

[John Wendel]

Fedora 15 - Gnome 3 - on an old Intel based laptop.

I'm having a problem with a wireless network connection. For some 
unknown reason, the connection drops frequently. When this happens, 
network manager prompts for the password (which it has stored correctly) 
and then is unable to reconnect to the network. Rebooting fixes the 
problem, until the next disconnect.

Anybody have a solution?

Thanks,

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Re: Yum ate my ICONS

[John Wendel]

On 10/14/2011 01:09 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:42:46 -0700, JW (John) wrote:
>
>> On 10/14/2011 10:16 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 09:58:44 -0700
>>> John Wendel  wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just used 'yum remove'  to remove Gnome3 from my box, since I'm
>>>> using xfce. Seemed to work OK. But now "thundar" doesn't have any
>>>> icons in its file display.  What do I need to install to get the
>>>> icons back?
>>> That would be "Thunar". ;)
>>>
>>> You likely want:
>>> gnome-icon-theme-legacy
>>>
>>> Or you can go change your icon theme in your preferences, but the other
>>> ones don't have 100% icon coverage, so you will have some missing
>>> icons.
>>>
>>> kevin
>>>
>>>
>> Thanks. I have the gnome-icon-theme-legacy package installed, yum didn't
>> remove it. Still no Thunar icons.
> Have you kept /var/log/yum.log*? Check the list of "Erased" packages
> for icon packages.
>
> This is with a F-16 GNOME Shell default install:
>
> $ rpm -qa|grep \\-icon|sort
> fedora-icon-theme-1.0.0-11.fc15.noarch
> gnome-icon-theme-3.2.0-1.fc16.noarch
> gnome-icon-theme-extras-3.0.0-2.fc16.noarch
> gnome-icon-theme-legacy-3.2.0-1.fc16.noarch
> gnome-icon-theme-symbolic-3.2.0-1.fc16.noarch
> hicolor-icon-theme-0.12-3.fc16.noarch
>
Thanks!!! I installed all the above, and Thunar is happy again (me too).

Regards,

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Re: Yum ate my ICONS

[John Wendel]

On 10/14/2011 10:16 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:

On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 09:58:44 -0700
John Wendel  wrote:


I just used 'yum remove'  to remove Gnome3 from my box, since I'm
using xfce. Seemed to work OK. But now "thundar" doesn't have any
icons in its file display.  What do I need to install to get the
icons back?

That would be "Thunar". ;)

You likely want:
gnome-icon-theme-legacy

Or you can go change your icon theme in your preferences, but the other
ones don't have 100% icon coverage, so you will have some missing
icons.

kevin


Thanks. I have the gnome-icon-theme-legacy package installed, yum didn't 
remove it. Still no Thunar icons.


Regards,

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Yum ate my ICONS

[John Wendel]

I just used 'yum remove'  to remove Gnome3 from my box, since I'm using 
xfce. Seemed to work OK. But now "thundar" doesn't have any icons in its 
file display.  What do I need to install to get the icons back?

Thanks,

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/tmp/at-spi2 full of socket files

[John Wendel]

/tmp/at-spi2 on my F15, Gnome system is accumulating many socket files. 
I clean them out, but a new set seems to be created on each login.

How do I turn off the Gnome accessibility stuff?

Anyone else see this?

Thanks,

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modem-manager annoyance

[John Wendel]

How do I stop network manager from running modem-manager? I don't have a 
modem.

Thanks,

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Re: Fedora 15 is a lot like Windows OS's.. irritating, offensive, difficult to use with ease, nauseating to try...

[John Wendel]

On 09/01/2011 06:04 PM, Mark W. Jeanmougin wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 18:03, Rudolf Kastl  wrote:
>> 2011/9/1 Alan Cox:
>>> If you really want everything to just get out of the way and don't need
>>> the user niceness stuff you might also want to look at Enlightement
>>>
>>> yum search enlightenment
>>>
>>> Alan
>> e17 will be removed from f16 because of a lack of maintainer for it
>> unfortunately (afaik it has been orphaned). because of that id
>> recommend at this point aswell to try xfce and/or lxde for a serious
>> work environment.
> Nooo!
>
> I've been a hard-core Enlightenment user for years. I can't imagine
> having to give it up! I love that it doesn't auto-mount every disk I
> plug in! I love the Ctrl-Alt-Ins to get a new terminal. I love the low
> system resources.
>
> Man, I'm going to miss it...
>
> MJ

I love it too!

http://bodhilinux.com - The best E17 distro

John

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Re: I think we need a discussion

[John Wendel]

On 08/30/2011 09:47 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:26:59 -0500
> Ranjan Maitra wrote:
>
>> Does a linux user really care for a Trash can?
> Not me, especially not one that conforms to the insanely
> cryptic freedesktop.org trash standards.
>
> Personally I use the simple window manager FVWM, and I use
> it with my own, built from scratch, .fvwmrc file that doesn't
> get changed out from under me in every release.
>
> However, on each new release, I am constantly panting around
> after gnome trying to discover what new daemons gnome programs
> rely upon so I can start them in my .xsession file.
>
> (The gnome developers appear to have the philosophy:
> "never call a subroutine when dbus communication with a
> separate daemon can be substituted, and never start a daemon
> on demand when it can be running 24/7 instead even if
> you only need it once a week." :-).
I also would like to see your custom config files.

Thanks,

John

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Re: No Gnome 3 for me

[John Wendel]

On 08/04/2011 08:33 AM, Genes MailLists wrote:
> On 08/04/2011 11:00 AM, John Wendel wrote:
>> On 08/04/2011 04:26 AM, Genes MailLists wrote:
>>> Have you confirmed this is gnome only not a driver or X problem ?
>>> (e.g. do things work with KDE or xfce?)
>>>
>>>
>> I currently running KDE on the box, works fine (but it's boring).
>>
>
>   Ok good - does KDE still work ok if you turn on desktop effects - that
> may tickle the 3D stuff more ... gnome 3 tickles it even more than that
> as I understand - but if 3d effects on KDE is a problem then we know for
> sure its not gnome per se ...
>
>gene
Good catch.  Turning on desktop effects kills KDE (hard lockup).  This 
is with the Nvidia driver. Maybe I've got some bad hardware.

Regards,

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Re: No Gnome 3 for me

[John Wendel]

On 08/04/2011 10:07 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 04, 2011 at 04:39:53PM +0100, Arthur Dent wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 2011-08-03 at 22:32 -0700, John Wendel wrote:
>>> Anybody have a solution for the bug (?) that keeps Gnome 3 from working
>>> with Nvidia 7300 video cards? Specifically, the keyboard and mouse
>>> clicks don't work (but ctrl-alt-backspace does).
>>> It's been a while, I thought this would surely get fixed. I'm running
>>> F15 with the latest updates and the latest Nvidia driver.
>
>> I too am interested in this. I have a Dell Dimension E520 with Nvidia
>> GeForce 7300 LE. I have put off upgrading to F15 on this machine (I have
>> F15 running on a headless server which has no need of Gnomery) because I
>> read these threads:
>> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-June/400091.html
>> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-June/398532.html
>> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-July/401484.html
> I have not tried installing the (latest) Nvidia driver again.
> I suspect it will still give problems with at least the NV46 family
> of Nvidia chips (including the GeForce 7300 (LE)) as Nvidia has
> as far as I know not adressed this problem.
>
> However I can confirm that the Nouveau driver is now functioning
> adequately with the Geforce 7300 LE. I have been using it for the
> past 2 weeks:
> (xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-0.0.16-24.20110324git8378443.fc15.x86_64
>   mesa-xxx-7.11-0.16.20110709.0.fc15.x86_64 and
>   kernel-2.6.40-4.fc15.x86_64)
>
> So if are willing to give up the Nvidia drivers you can comfortably
> run F15+Gnome3 with Nouveau.
>
> Alexander
>
>
Thanks for the reply. When I run the Nouveau driver, I get the Gnome 
"fallback" version. And I see a console message that says that there is 
no 3D hardware acceleration. I've got the same software versions.

Regards,

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Re: No Gnome 3 for me

[John Wendel]

On 08/04/2011 04:26 AM, Genes MailLists wrote:
> On 08/04/2011 01:32 AM, John Wendel wrote:
>> Anybody have a solution for the bug (?) that keeps Gnome 3 from working
>> with Nvidia 7300 video cards? Specifically, the keyboard and mouse
>> clicks don't work (but ctrl-alt-backspace does).
>>
>> It's been a while, I thought this would surely get fixed. I'm running
>> F15 with the latest updates and the latest Nvidia driver.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> John
>>
>Have you confirmed this is gnome only not a driver or X problem ?
> (e.g. do things work with KDE or xfce?)
>
>
I currently running KDE on the box, works fine (but it's boring).

John

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No Gnome 3 for me

[John Wendel]

Anybody have a solution for the bug (?) that keeps Gnome 3 from working 
with Nvidia 7300 video cards? Specifically, the keyboard and mouse 
clicks don't work (but ctrl-alt-backspace does).

It's been a while, I thought this would surely get fixed. I'm running 
F15 with the latest updates and the latest Nvidia driver.

Thanks,

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Re: Unable to create a liveUSB from Fedora-15-i386-DVD.iso

[John Wendel]

On 07/26/2011 09:30 PM, yudi v wrote:


> As I do not have access to a Fedora system, what other method can I
> use to create a liveUSB?
>
https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/

yum install liveusb-creator

Ed, I already mentioned that  I do not have access to a Fedora
system. Secondly,


  Preparing the USB stick

The easiest setup method is to install Fedora's own 
*livecd-iso-to-disk 
* script from 
livecd-tools. Note that the liveusb-creator GUI, however, does not 
support putting the DVD installer on USB. (Unetbootin has worked in 
the past as well, but does not currently work for Fedora 14 and 15.)


taken from https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_and_use_Live_USB

I am curious why the DD command fails?

any guesses.



I just used DD to make a USB using the LIVE CD iso (not DVD). It works 
fine.  Maybe the DVD version is arranged differently (obviously).


Regards,

John

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Re: Software update has bugs

[John Wendel]

On 07/16/2011 08:25 AM, nomnex wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 20:05:35 -0700
> John Wendel  wrote:
>
>> Same bad experience here. All these apps are just a layer of crap
>> spread over yum.  Save yourself some pain and use yum directly.
> I like the Yum extender project. It is not a layer of crap.
>
> https://fedorahosted.org/yumex/
>

Well, I loaded yumex and poked at it. I have to agree, it looks like a 
well crafted, useful tool. I think I'll keep it.

Thanks for the tip.

Regards,

John

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Re: How can I install F15 without a desktop environment

[John Wendel]

On 07/14/2011 08:25 PM, Doug Kuvaas wrote:

Absolutely!

You will probably need to get either the installation DVD or the 
Network install CD, I don't recall seeing package options when 
installing from live media.


http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-all

I would opt for the minimum install and then select "Customize now". 
 From there you can select X and any other packages you may require.


Note that when you install Fedora with no DE, it defaults to runlevel 
3 at bootup.


Do you need to do anything special with X?



Thanks very much for the reply. I've haven't install from a DVD in a 
long time, I've just used the live cds that don't let you choose 
packages.  Nothing special require, just a very small install.


Regards,

John


On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 10:19 PM, John Wendel <mailto:jwende...@comcast.net>> wrote:


I need to install F15 without Gnome, KDE, XFCE, or LXDE.  The
target has
1 GB of flash for the filesystem. So how can I install F15 with X, but
without a DE?

Thanks,

John

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How can I install F15 without a desktop environment

[John Wendel]

I need to install F15 without Gnome, KDE, XFCE, or LXDE.  The target has 
1 GB of flash for the filesystem. So how can I install F15 with X, but 
without a DE?

Thanks,

John

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Re: Software update has bugs

[John Wendel]

On 07/14/2011 01:27 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> Under KDM I asked for software updates and got an option called Get and
> Remove Software. I ran it and chose to add the Content group. I was
> shown the three documents I could add. One on Python, one on Java and
> one on Linux drivers. I chose to install the first and third. Processing
> started until I  was told another  dependency must be installed. I said
> continue and the system asked me for a passwd authorization. I entered
> the only passwds that seemed possibly relevant and both were rejected
>
> Ok, I started again . At the place where it asked me for a passwd
> previously it stated that I had not entered an authorizing passwd and
> quit. So I could not proceed further.
>
> I tried to use Gnome to do the same thing. When I searched for Get or
> Remove .. the only relevant application I was shown was KPackageKit.
> When I ran that I was given the option to Get and Remove Software, which
> I ran, entered the passwd which should work and it did.
>
> Now I pressed my luck and ran another option called Software Update.
> Which attempted it said to find updates but failed. The same option
> under KVM also failed.
>
> However, in Gnome under Software Tools the Software Update application
> succeeds.
>
> Have other people fond the  same bug or am I going crazy again?

Same bad experience here. All these apps are just a layer of crap spread 
over yum.  Save yourself some pain and use yum directly.

Regards,

John

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F15 Gnome 3 + Nvidia Driver = No Keyboard or Mouse buttons

[John Wendel]

I'd really like to run Gnome 3 on an older computer (P4) that has nvidia 
(7300 GS) graphics.

I installed and tried it using the nouveau driver and found it was 
unusable, with terribly slow graphics. So I installed the Nvidia driver, 
using akmod-nvidia. Installed OK. But the mouse buttons didn't work, 
though the mouse pointer moved OK. The Windows key and alt-f2 didn't 
work, but ctrl-alt-bksp worked and killed X.

So I installed KDE and everything works perfectly, with the Nvidia 
driver. But I'd rather use Gnome 3.

Anyone have a fix?

Thanks,

John

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Re: Fedora Security and the Uverse 3800HGV-B router

[john wendel]

On 07/01/2011 08:45 PM, JD wrote:
> I am writing this message with the hope that someone on this
> list has this uverse router.'
> When I use Firefox to browse to this router (192.168.1.254),
> it displays the "Home" machines connected to the network.
> For each machine it displays:
> a tv icon,  it's name, and a link named "Access FIles"
> and another link named "Device Details".
>
> If I click on any machine's "Acess FIles" link, it
> displays my Fedora's  /  directory completely.
>
> I have no ftp daemon running.
> I have no apache running.
> In fact I do not have ANY internet server running.
>
> So how in blazes is the router able to display my
> entire system's files?
>
> If I aim my browser at my own IP address,
> I get
> Unable to connect
> Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at 192.168.1.201.
>
> So how is the router doing it?
> This is a very disconcerting security hole and I have not been
> able to nail it down to any daemon running on my Fedora.
>
> Thanks for your insights.
>
> JD

Your router isn't displaying the files, your browser is, so it doesn't 
need a network connection. Though I must admit, I don't know how it's 
done.  Maybe you should examine the html source.

John

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Re: Anybody else having wireless connection problems with F15 Gnome?

[john wendel]

On 06/22/2011 01:07 AM, Roelof 'Ben' Kusters wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:14:02 +0700,
>   wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately, using F15 Gnome, and NetworkManager, the wireless network
>> won't connect. Or rather, it connects and the immediately disconnects,
>> repeatedly. I have updated the box to the latest (using the wired
>> network), but it's still not working.
>
> I've had a similar issue with a wireless network card attached to a
> desktop. It would recognise all visible networks, but wouldn't connect. I
> bypassed this problem by giving the box a static IP. Good luck.
>

Thanks for the tip. Problem fixed itself, somehow.

Regards,

John

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Re: Removing NetworkManager results in very slow boot [SOLVED]

[john wendel]

On 06/22/2011 09:10 AM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote:
> On 22/06/11 16:04, john wendel wrote:
>> On 06/21/2011 10:13 PM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote:
>>> On 06/22/2011 03:43 AM, john wendel wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I removed the NetworkManager stuff from systemd, since I don't want to
>>>> run it. Now there's a long boot delay while DBUS tries repeatedly to
>>>> talk to NetworkManager.
>>>>
>>>> Obviously, I did something wrong. How should I have stopped NetworkManager?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>
>>> Apologies before saying this, ever tried Windoze? No networkmanager,
>>> just lots of other, (choose your own words). Personally networkmanager
>>> works for me, but as the saying goes, to each their own.
>>>
>>
>> Ever tried not being a moron? If NetworkManager worked for me, I'd be
>> using it. And no, I haven't used Windoze since I installed Linux over my
>> Windows 98 system.
>>
>> John
>>
>
> Snap, I abandoned windoze 98 to Linux as well, and although I have had
> to use windoze for work, I'm not even slightly persuaded to return. By
> the way I've also posted some details of how I managed to configure
> wireless router and networkmanager to work. But as I'm a moron it's
> probably of no use to you.
>
> cpp4ever

I'm sorry for the moron crack, it was totally uncalled for. I guess it 
takes one to know one. This network thing has me totally whacked! I 
appreciate the tip of using a static IP, I'm about to give it a try.

OK, I'M THE MORON

I started the laptop, the network was off (as usual).  I poked the 
nm-applet and turned on the wireless. IT WORKED !  I've tried this at 
least 20 times before and it never worked, now it worked fine.

Maybe it had something to do with removing NetworkManager and then 
reinstalling it. I don't really have a clue.

Thanks to everyone who offered help.

John


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Re: Removing NetworkManager results in very slow boot

[john wendel]

On 06/21/2011 10:13 PM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote:
> On 06/22/2011 03:43 AM, john wendel wrote:
>>
>> I removed the NetworkManager stuff from systemd, since I don't want to
>> run it. Now there's a long boot delay while DBUS tries repeatedly to
>> talk to NetworkManager.
>>
>> Obviously, I did something wrong. How should I have stopped NetworkManager?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> John
>>
>
> Apologies before saying this, ever tried Windoze? No networkmanager,
> just lots of other, (choose your own words). Personally networkmanager
> works for me, but as the saying goes, to each their own.
>

Ever tried not being a moron? If NetworkManager worked for me, I'd be 
using it. And no, I haven't used Windoze since I installed Linux over my 
Windows 98 system.

John

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Re: Removing NetworkManager results in very slow boot

[john wendel]

On 06/22/2011 03:34 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> john wendel wrote:
>
>> I removed the NetworkManager stuff from systemd, since I don't want to
>> run it. Now there's a long boot delay while DBUS tries repeatedly to
>> talk to NetworkManager.
>
> Couldn't you just have said (as root) "service NetworkManager stop"
> and added "chkconfig NetworkManager off" if you didn't want it
> to come up when booting?
> And maybe "service network start" if you wanted the rival "network".
>
> As it is, I'd "grep -r NetworkManager /etc/rc.d/init.d"
> to see if something is trying to start NM on bootup.
>

Thanks for the reply.

You're correct, I should have used chkconfig to turn it off. But, I 
looked at "chkconfig --list" and didn't see NetworkManager, since it is 
now managed by systemd. So, I did things the hard way (rm the links that 
systemd uses). I now understand that systemd would have been invoked by 
chkconfig.

Just to clarify, NetworkManager is not running (exactly what I want). 
But DBUS wants to talk to NetworkManager, so I get a 60 second wait at 
boot time.

I'll restore the original configuration files, use chkconfig, and see if 
things go better.

Thanks,

John

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Anybody else having wireless connection problems with F15 Gnome?

[john wendel]

I've got an old Acer laptop with Intel ipw2200 wireless network. F15 
LXDE works fine on the box, but I'd rather run Gnome (so I can complain 
about how broken it is).

Unfortunately, using F15 Gnome, and NetworkManager, the wireless network 
won't connect. Or rather, it connects and the immediately disconnects, 
repeatedly. I have updated the box to the latest (using the wired 
network), but it's still not working.

Google hasn't been any help, so I'm asking for your help. Anybody?

Thanks,

John

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Removing NetworkManager results in very slow boot

[john wendel]

I removed the NetworkManager stuff from systemd, since I don't want to 
run it. Now there's a long boot delay while DBUS tries repeatedly to 
talk to NetworkManager.

Obviously, I did something wrong. How should I have stopped NetworkManager?

Thanks,

John

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Re: Firefox 5.0

[john wendel]

On 06/21/2011 11:52 AM, Steven Stern wrote:
> 
>
> Trying to get in the first "What's wrong with Fedora?  It's been 15
> minutes since the Mozilla announcement and Firefox 5 isn't in the repos"
> comment.
>
> 
>



Who cares about 5.0 - I'm running 6a2 and getting several updates a day. 
They haven't broken anything yet. Try it, you'll like it.

John

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Intel wireless broken with F15 Gnome

[john wendel]

Sorry, I'm sure this has been answered before, but I can't find the 
solution.

Old laptop with ipw2200 wireless, works perfectly with F15 LXDE, won't 
connect with F15 Gnome.

Anyone know the secret incantation that will fix this P.O.S.

Thanks,

John

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Re: Adieu, Fedora

[john wendel]

On 06/13/2011 12:21 PM, Kam Leo wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 2:14 AM, Alan Cox  wrote:
>>> The point is, you have to match the distro to the user, not the other
>>> way around.  If the OP isn't happy with Fedora, I hope he finds a distro
>>> he likes better.
>>
>> The primary end user Linux UI is Android. In that sense the argument is
>> over for the moment.
>>
>> Alan
>
>
> I agree. Android is growing and has more eyeballs/users. Due to sheer
> numbers it will become the de facto GUI.


So, how do I get it as my Fedora desktop on my Intel/AMD based PC?

John

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Re: Default browser problem -

[john wendel]

On 06/12/2011 04:16 PM, Tim Evans wrote:
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jun 12, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Steven Stern
> mailto:subscribed-li...@sterndata.com>>
> wrote:
>
>> On 06/12/2011 11:22 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
>>> On 12/06/11 11:11, James McKenzie wrote:
 On 6/12/11 7:51 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
> F-15 and Firefox simply do not work as I want them to so I
> installed Google Chrome to try it.
>
> However when I click on a link in an e-mail message in
> Thunderbird it keeps starting Firefox instead of the default
> browser, Chrome.
 Did you change the hypertext Application from Firefox to Chrome?

 James McKenzie

>>>
>>>
>>> "hypertext Application"
>>>
>>> Where do I find that?
>>>
>>> "Preferred Applications" shows Chrome as the default. I probably
>>> should have mentioned that this is F-15/XFCE although the
>>> problem is with Mozilla Thunderbird so I would not expect the
>>> desktop to cause the problem.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>> .
>>>
>>
>> Something's seriously broken and changing the default apps just doesn't
>> work consistently. This applies throughout the Gnome3 shell. You need
>> to edit ~/.thunderbird/yourprofile/ and edit mimeTypes.rdf:
>>
>> Find and edit the stanzas referencing firefox. The should be for http,
>> https, and ftp.
>>
>>
>> As I noted in the other thread on this topic, this did not resolve my
>> problem. Matter of fact, my laptop running F15 using the very same rdf
>> file fails to open any browser from Thunderbird
>
>

Same problem here, only on F14 with Tbird 5 beta 1.

John

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F15 - Video problems [SEMI-SOLVED]

[john wendel]

I finally found the source of my video problems with F15.

My 1680x1050 monitor was hooked to a Belkin KVM. Somehow, this ended up 
making the system think I had 2 displays, a 1680x1050 and a 1280x1024 
(no, these is no 1280x1024 monitor, I assume the KVM is braindead). Of 
course, KMS used the wrong display info. I discovered this by running 
xrandr with no arguments.

After removing the KVM (which I don't actually need), the video is fine. 
If I needed the KVM, well that would be a problem.

I hope this helps someone.

Regards,

John

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Re: Can't uninstall PackageKit without uninstalling gnome-shell, gdm, etc?

[john wendel]

On 06/05/2011 01:26 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 08:16 +0800, H Xu wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I didn't use PackageKit when I was using Fedora 14. Now it seems that I
>> can't uninstall PackageKit without uninstalling those packages. Is this
>> a package bug? Thanks.
>>
>> Regards,
>> H Xu
>> 06/05/2011
>
> Are you sure you did not use it? Are you saying you ran yum update
> periodically do the updates? How inefficient.

This is sarcasm, right? :)

John
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Re: T-Bird won't open URL

[john wendel]

On 06/04/2011 11:57 AM, JD wrote:
> On 06/04/11 11:07, john wendel wrote:
>> I'm getting the following error when I click on a URL in Tbird.
>>
>> This is the 3.1.10 Tbird from F14 using Aurora browser (yeah I know,
>> it's broken and I get to keep the pieces).
>>
>> Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... "Component returned failure
>> code: 0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE)
>> [nsIExternalProtocolService.loadUrl]"  nsresult: "0x80004005
>> (NS_ERROR_FAILURE)"  location: "JS frame ::
>> chrome://communicator/content/contentAreaClick.js :: openLinkExternally
>> :: line 188"  data: no]
>>
>> Anyone have any words of wisdom?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> John
>>
> Had a similar problem and here is how I
> was clued in to fix it:
> System->Preferences->Preferred Applications
>
> Select your preferred app for each category,
> such as Web Browser, or Mail Reader
> or MultiMedia, or terminal Emulator,...etc

Not a problem with preferred app, I should have mentioned that it was 
working fine until 2 days ago. Looks like an Aurora update has broken 
something.

I just tried it with the Tbird 5 beta, same error.

Looks like I need to report to Firebird/Aurora.

Thanks for the help.

John
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T-Bird won't open URL

[john wendel]

I'm getting the following error when I click on a URL in Tbird.

This is the 3.1.10 Tbird from F14 using Aurora browser (yeah I know, 
it's broken and I get to keep the pieces).

Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... "Component returned failure 
code: 0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE) 
[nsIExternalProtocolService.loadUrl]"  nsresult: "0x80004005 
(NS_ERROR_FAILURE)"  location: "JS frame :: 
chrome://communicator/content/contentAreaClick.js :: openLinkExternally 
:: line 188"  data: no]

Anyone have any words of wisdom?

Thanks,

John

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F15 Firefox crashes after latest update

[john wendel]

Looks like the latest update has broken Firefox, I get a crash every few 
minutes. Previously, I'd never seen a Firefox crash on this system. 
Since there were so many updates, I don't have a clue which piece broke 
things. I straced Firefox until it crashed, but the strace output didn't 
show anything, it just stopped.

How can I report this without knowing who to blame?  Clues appreciated.

Thanks,

John
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Re: /var/log/messages question

[john wendel]

On 05/30/2011 07:07 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 05/30/2011 05:42 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
>> Tom Horsley wrote:
>>
>>> If would be real convenient to have a known string to
>>> search for that always precedes the rest of the messages
>>> in a new boot.
>>
>> I agree.
>> Even a couple of blank lines would help.
>>
>>
>
> Indeed.  Am I the only one on the list that thinks that XYZZY would be
> appropriate?


Nothing happens!

John

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Re: "hald" just won't die

[john wendel]

On 05/30/2011 05:16 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 05/31/2011 08:05 AM, john wendel wrote:
>> I just did an F15 LXDE install on an old laptop (incidently, best
>> install I've ever done, bravo LXDE quys).
>>
>> Now I see 9 processes with "hald" in their name, and 3 processes named
>> "udevd" running. I thought hal was supposed to be gone. I also see
>> udisk-daemon and hald-addon-storage both polling /dev/sr0.
>>
>> This is a really low-end laptop, can I get rid of any of the hal stuff?
>>
>
> I have 3 systems running F15, none of them with LXDE, and none of them
> have the "hal" package installed.  If I were in your shoes I would first
> do "yum erase hal" and see what/if it offers to remove other packages as
> depending on hal.
>
>
>

Good suggestion. I tried it, and it looks like LXDE is still built using 
HAL; yum wanted to erase lxde-common and pcmanfm.  Oh well, I've been 
meaning to try fluxbox, now I have a good excuse.

Thanks for the help.

John

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"hald" just won't die

[john wendel]

I just did an F15 LXDE install on an old laptop (incidently, best 
install I've ever done, bravo LXDE quys).

Now I see 9 processes with "hald" in their name, and 3 processes named 
"udevd" running. I thought hal was supposed to be gone. I also see 
udisk-daemon and hald-addon-storage both polling /dev/sr0.

This is a really low-end laptop, can I get rid of any of the hal stuff?

Thanks

John
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