Re: old packages

[Kelly Miller]

I don't know about all of them, but I can tell you that the system-config-*
packages are pretty much all obsolete (lvm, boot and firewall definitely
are), and smart has been obsolete on Fedora for a number of versions now (I
used to use it as my package manager, to be honest).  I believe systemd-ui
is as well.

On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 5:36 PM, Patrick Dupre  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I do have a bunch of old pacakges installed.
> Is there any update of ?
> smart
> system-config-lvm
> perl-define
> system-config-boot
> perl-Forest
> perl-Sort-Fields
> SOAPpy
> celt
> systemd-ui
> anaconda-yum-plugins
> createrepo
> aic94xx-firmware
> system-config-firewall
>
> Should I just remove them ?
>
> Thank
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Re: Fedora 21 Install: Stuck at Installing software 12%

[Kelly Miller]

Yeah, I for one noticed that Anaconda frequently has trouble updating the
status message when it's installing.  In fact, you can force it to update
if you quickly go into and then leave the Root Password and/or User
sections.  I thought it was fixed in 21, but maybe I'm thinking of 22.

Kelly Miller

On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 7:26 AM, Steven Ulrick meow8...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello, Everyone
 Just put a new Seagate 2TB hard drive in the computer that I use as a
 media server.  I proceeded to install the KDE spin of Fedora 21 from a
 flash drive.  Everything went fine, but the progress indicator is
 stuck at Installing software 12%  Has been stuck there for about 10
 minutes or more.

 So, I WAS wondering what was wrong...  Then I saw the following at the
 bottom of the screen:
 Fedora is now successfully installed and ready for you to use!
 Go ahead and reboot to start using it!

 In the lower right hand corner is a button that says Quit

 So, I'm going to click that button and see what happens...

 Steven P. Ulrick
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Re: fedup to 22

[Kelly Miller]

Only problem with 22 I've run into so far is that there's something wrong
with NFS.  Otherwise, everything seems to be fine.

On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 9:14 PM, jd1008 jd1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Has anyone run fedup to 22?

 If yes, any problems with f22?

 Thanx.
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Re: Best Way to Handle Packages

[Kelly Miller]

Sorry, I meant the former.  I used to like going through Smart to see what
packages are available, but without the RPM groupings it's harder to do in
Yumex (plus Fedora is phasing them out).

On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote:


 On Thu, 2015-03-05 at 16:58 -0500, Kelly Miller wrote:
  I notice a lot of people mention just using yum/dnf directly, but I'm
  wondering what people normally use to just check out new packages.

 If you mean ones we haven't known about before, I've occasionally
 searched yum for keywords of things that might interest me hoping to
 find something to do a job.

 If you mean information about newly released packages (e.g. updates),
 I'm signed up to the package-announce list.  Any time an update is
 released, I get an email about it.  If the email doesn't provide
 anything particularly descriptive about it (as too many don't), then I
 can look at the packages website, or do a yum info packagename.

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Best Way to Handle Packages

[Kelly Miller]

I've mentioned it here before, but I'm not a huge fan of the current
options for checking out and installing Fedora packages.  I notice a lot of
people mention just using yum/dnf directly, but I'm wondering what people
normally use to just check out new packages.

So how do people on this list normally handle package management?
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Re: Adobe not providing linux flash updates

[Kelly Miller]

Is mentioning third party repositories okay on the users list?

Anyway, AFAICS, you don't need to install Chrome or Chromium to get Pepper
Flash; the RPM for it doesn't seem to have Chromium as a requirement.
Obviously, if you install Google's copy of Chrome, then you get Pepper
Flash with it...

On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 3:29 PM, Stephen Morris samor...@netspace.net.au
wrote:

 On 02/11/2015 12:24 AM, Kelly Miller wrote:

 You could grab the Fresh Player Plugin as well, which allows Firefox to
 use Chrome's Pepper Flash plugin (which is up to date).

 I haven't heard of that before, where would I find it? Am I also correct
 in assuming that for the usage of Chrome's plugin (which I also wasn't
 aware of because I thought flash support was built in to chrome) that
 Chrome must also be installed?


 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com
 mailto:r...@htt-consult.com wrote:

 www.cnn.com http://www.cnn.com is telling me that my version of
 flash-player is out of date with security risks so it won't
 display any video news.  Go and update your flash player.

 On this F21 system I am using:

 adobe-linux-x86_64.repo

 which has in it:

 baseurl=http://linuxdownload.adobe.com/linux/x86_64/

 yum.log shows:

 Jan 19 18:08:31 Updated: flash-plugin-11.2.202.429-release.x86_64
 Jan 26 08:51:24 Updated: flash-plugin-11.2.202.440-release.x86_64

 So supposedly I am current to Jan 26.  But cnn is not a happy
 camper.  There have been a couple other sites complaining as well.
 Even one that said my version of Firefox was out of date, but that
 was only a warning.


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Re: Adobe not providing linux flash updates

[Kelly Miller]

You could grab the Fresh Player Plugin as well, which allows Firefox to use
Chrome's Pepper Flash plugin (which is up to date).

On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com
wrote:

 www.cnn.com is telling me that my version of flash-player is out of date
 with security risks so it won't display any video news.  Go and update your
 flash player.

 On this F21 system I am using:

 adobe-linux-x86_64.repo

 which has in it:

 baseurl=http://linuxdownload.adobe.com/linux/x86_64/

 yum.log shows:

 Jan 19 18:08:31 Updated: flash-plugin-11.2.202.429-release.x86_64
 Jan 26 08:51:24 Updated: flash-plugin-11.2.202.440-release.x86_64

 So supposedly I am current to Jan 26.  But cnn is not a happy camper.
 There have been a couple other sites complaining as well. Even one that
 said my version of Firefox was out of date, but that was only a warning.


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Re: GUI that uses RPM Groups?

[Kelly Miller]

I tried using yum groups.  The problem is, yum groups only seem to pick up
packages from Fedora proper, not from any other repositories.  So I can't
get anything from RPM Fusion or the like.  And I agree that search is very
useful (it's normally how I install specific packages), but it doesn't help
if I'm trying to go through all the packages in a list, deciding which ones
I could use on my system (I usually do this on a brand new install, which
is why reinstalling Fedora 20 brought this up).  I used to use Smart
Package Manager, which nicely broke down packages by groups, but it's been
broken and appears to be abandoned, so it's no good anymore.

On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 2:01 AM, Robin Laing me...@telusplanet.net wrote:

 On 2014-10-17 20:12, Kelly Miller wrote:

 I've been wondering about this for quite some time, but my recent troubles
 with finding a good GUI installer for Fedora 20 has brought it to the
 forefront.  Why is it that none of the GUI's for yum  dnf support the old
 RPM groups?  Were they left out of yum and PackageKit or something?  And
 can someone suggest a good GUI for installing packages?  I find both Apper
 and Yumex to be lacking in package structure too much to use, in that the
 categories don't show all installable packages and to get all the
 packages,
 you have no choice but to show all packages, with no categorization.  And
 I'm trying to avoid having to either go through the large list of packages
 or trying to pull the list of packages I need out of my memory.




 I use yumex and I have group installs.  At least yum groups.

 Not sure what you are looking for in your groups.

 I see that other repositories are included in the group view so

 Search is very useful when I am looking for something.

 Can you give an example of what you are missing from Group install?



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GUI that uses RPM Groups?

[Kelly Miller]

I've been wondering about this for quite some time, but my recent troubles
with finding a good GUI installer for Fedora 20 has brought it to the
forefront.  Why is it that none of the GUI's for yum  dnf support the old
RPM groups?  Were they left out of yum and PackageKit or something?  And
can someone suggest a good GUI for installing packages?  I find both Apper
and Yumex to be lacking in package structure too much to use, in that the
categories don't show all installable packages and to get all the packages,
you have no choice but to show all packages, with no categorization.  And
I'm trying to avoid having to either go through the large list of packages
or trying to pull the list of packages I need out of my memory.
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Re: is it the future?

[Kelly Miller]

Yeah, they did... and refuted every single point made there, multiple
times.  But people keep dragging it up, over and over again.  See the topic
New Group Calls For Boycotting SystemD.

On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Balint Szigeti balint.s...@gmail.com
wrote:

  On Tue, 2014-09-09 at 08:12 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:

 On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 08:55:02 +0100
 Balint Szigeti wrote:
  What do you think guyes?

 I think these guys have a better plan:
 http://boycottsystemd.org/

  Thank you, that is a good site. I hope head of Fedora project read it as
 well.


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Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out

[Kelly Miller]

On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Robert Myers rbmyers...@gmail.com wrote:

 There is no fundamental difference that I know of between Ubuntu and
 Fedora with regard to virtualization.

 With regard to flash support, Ubuntu supports it more or less
 transparently and, if you want to use it on Fedora, you can spend the
 rest of your life on forums like this one.  You don't really want me
 here forever, do you?

 The difference between Fedora and Ubuntu that really matters, and if
 you don't want to hear it, just stop reading my posts, is that the
 people who use Ubuntu are generally more like the people who use
 Windows and Canonical knows it and caters to them.  Red Hat (along
 with Fedora and its manifestly snotty community) turns up its nose at
 such users.  It doesn't want them.

 Thus, if I need to find the *exact* Ubuntu driver for the very popular
 webcam I actually use, not only can I find it, but I can also find
 people who use it and talk about how to use it.  If there are such
 users in the Fedora community, I have so far not encountered them.
 Red Hat threw its amateur users overboard to maximize shareholder
 value.  A few loyal diehards hung on.  This loyal diehard can no
 longer afford to.

 Robert Myers.


So your REAL issue is that Fedora doesn't include a proprietary program in
either its default install or repository by default, and you feel that
having to look farther than Software Installer is a waste of time?  How
could you possibly survive Windows then?
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