Re: Hey, I know your password is
Take a look at: https://www.grc.com/sqrl/sqrl.htm -- _ ??v?? /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ On 9/2/19 3:53 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote: Hello, Today, I got a message, staring: Hey, I know your password is and asking for money. The password is one of the password that I use. It is not one giving access to important accounts, but I am a bit wondering about other account. I am careful with my accounts and passwords. How can I prevent sort of password steal? Thanks. === Patrick DUPR?? | | email: pdu...@gmx.com Laboratoire interdisciplinaire Carnot de Bourgogne 9 Avenue Alain Savary, BP 47870, 21078 DIJON Cedex FRANCE Tel: +33 (0)380395988 === ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: audacity playback too fast
On 10/23/15 14:18, Frank Elsner wrote: > > Hi Community, > > when recording with audacity and saving as .wav I can play the file with play > (from sox package) without problems. All perfect. > > But when I klick "play" in audacity the recording (or imported .wav) > plays far too fast. I guess 10 times too fast. > > Project Rate is 44100, and with the previously installed Fedora 14 (shame on > me) > I never had this problem. > > How to get the playback in correct speed? > > > Kind regards, Frank Elsner > Take a look at this: http://manual.audacityteam.org/man/Change_Speed Hope it helps. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: [ F21 ] How to remove GNOME
On 03/07/15 16:32, Martin Cigorraga wrote: Hi all, I'm a newcomer to Fedora and still learning its ways so excuse me if my question sounds stupid. Now, I want to remove GNOME from my install as I use i3; from what I saw there's no gnome-group or similar goup available, how should I proceed? Regards, -Martin Hey Martin, It appears that yum may have some hidden groups. http://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks/YumAndRPM#head-b3159dc0594ab59a5ae0c27d86c3815085064419 Perhaps this is what you need to get started. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Need soundcard advice
On 12/29/14 02:07, William W. Austin wrote: My wife composes, and for playback she has used an Audigy2 PCI card in her desktop machine for years. That computer is beyond it's last legs now, and her new one has only PCIE slots. (Yes she uses Linux for her composing and playback.) The problem is that she uses the Midi feature of that card and has sound fonts that she loads (about 126 MB in size) into it. She has given up trying to find one and has asked me to help... but so far I've struck out. Are there ANY PCIE sound which is roughly the equivalent of the Audigy 2 cards? I won't say money is no object, but I'm approaching the point where cost is less important than finding such a card if on exists. Any pointers on this issue will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance - Bill Hey Bill, You might consider appropriating a new motherboard that has whatever slot you require to support the existing card. That might be a less expensive/more easily accomplished goal than replacing your existing special purpose card with an upgraded version. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: eclipse
On 12/29/14 11:37, Angelo Moreschini wrote: Hi, I downloaded Elipse (Gallileo) from the official repository of Fedora with the purpose to develop Java programs,but it doesn't look to be suitable to be used for developing Java programs..(it is not sensitive to the skill used in Java programming, i.e there is not option to create java classes, as also the option of compilation.., etc..). Also I don't find JDK (Java Development Kit) inside the IDE, neither in the menu Window --- Preferences I find a possibility to add the Java capability, as it is wrote on the manuals of Eclipse I don't understand, I used Eclipse on Windows OS.. and there I had not problem to develop Java Programs... I am confused... what it is ? What can I do to use Java in Eclipse in Fedora environment. Regards thank you Angelo Hey Angelo, Eclipse has many plugins and modules for many different programming dialects. You just have to find the appropriate ones for the programming language that you are trying to use. It might take a bit of Googling to find out what you need to install. I use it for C, C++, Perl, and shell script. I had to install various extensions and assorted stuff, especially for Perl, to get it working the way I wanted. Hang in there and don't despair. It might not work out of the box but it will work eventually. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: color display with man pages
On 07/23/14 05:21, Corinna Vinschen wrote: On Jul 22 22:40, Mark LaPierre wrote: On 07/22/14 04:55, Corinna Vinschen wrote: On Jul 22 13:37, Amila Perera wrote: Thank you for your feedback. On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: I tried with bash, it seems to work ... somewhat. I see a yellow status at the bottom, but otherwise I see a regular man page. When I `type man' after defining your function, I get a few colours among the variable definitions (blue, red, and underlined). Well, I only get the yellow status line color and some variables getting bold. I have never tried this with bash, though. Try this additionally to setting the LESS_TERMCAP_xx vars: export GROFF_NO_SGR=yes Hey Corinna, Could you share some more details on how to use the LESS_TERMCAP_xx vars and export GROFF_NO_SGR=yes commands? I'm assuming that you put them in your .bashrc file, no? No, I'm tcsh user, sorry :} I was just curious and experimented with it. For bash you can do something like this: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-unix-colored-man-pages-with-less-command/ and just add the GROFF_NO_SGR setting to it, I guess. Corinna Thanks Corinna. That worked quite well for colored man pages. Now I've got figure out how to extend the concept to other applications. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: color display with man pages
On 07/22/14 04:55, Corinna Vinschen wrote: On Jul 22 13:37, Amila Perera wrote: Thank you for your feedback. On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: I tried with bash, it seems to work ... somewhat. I see a yellow status at the bottom, but otherwise I see a regular man page. When I `type man' after defining your function, I get a few colours among the variable definitions (blue, red, and underlined). Well, I only get the yellow status line color and some variables getting bold. I have never tried this with bash, though. Try this additionally to setting the LESS_TERMCAP_xx vars: export GROFF_NO_SGR=yes Hey Corinna, Could you share some more details on how to use the LESS_TERMCAP_xx vars and export GROFF_NO_SGR=yes commands? I'm assuming that you put them in your .bashrc file, no? -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: why do we use systemd?
On 07/05/14 19:30, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 05 July 2014, Garry T. Williams sent: http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd.html http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd-for-admins-1.html Fails to load, here, does it work for you? I even left the browser attempting it for a few minutes. Nope, I doesn't work for me either. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Samsung ML-2165W printer help
On 06/01/14 12:39, Mike Wright wrote: Hi all, Just bought the Samsung ML-2165W/XAC printer because it advertised Linux support. Downloaded and installed the driver (it claims installation successful). The user manual seems to be flat out wrong. The Linux install directions seem to be for Windows. When the Administrator Login window appears, type root in the Login field and enter the system password. You must log in as a super user (root) to install the machine software. If you are not a super user, ask your system administrator. From the Samsung website, download the Unified Linux Driver package to your computer. Right-click the Unified Linux Driver package and extract the package. Double click cdroot autorun. Note: there is no such named package and their is neither a file named cdroot nor one named autorun. At any rate, when I attempt to print a page the printer's activity light flashes for a long time then stops. CUPS reports completed. This occurs regardless of whether there is paper loaded or not. Cups isn't being very helpful here either. Almost anything administrator related tells me Forbidden, but nowhere can I find a way to Login to it. Part of me says the driver doesn't work and part of me says the printer is DOA. Has anybody else had any success with this particular printer model? Thanks for any help or tips, Mike Wright I have an ML-1740 that works perfectly. I share it out with SAMBA to my wife's Win 7 laptop. Samsung is a bit club handed but they were among the first to support Linux long before it became fashionable. In their early driver package one of the CUP filters was installed with the wrong permissions. When I fixed that all was well. It's probably something simple like that. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: su
On 04/27/14 07:45, Patrick Dupre wrote: Hello, After a fresh installation of fedora 20, I can only log 1 time as a su. After, it is refused for authentification error! Patrick DUPRÉ Maybe a dumb question but, what did you do during the first time that you were logged in as SU? -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: VEry OT Ruby
On 03/04/14 01:58, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 04 March 2014, Roger sent: Changing ISP is not an option. You don't have to use your ISP's webserver. In fact, I'd always advise against it. When you have an independent service, you can have your own domain, and without the extortionate charges that some ISPs demand for that. Once you have your own domain, you can serve it from anywhere. You can also do your own email from anywhere, keep your own email address forever, and not matter what ISP you use. There are plenty of expensive, cheap, and free hosts around the world. Even some of the modest priced ones cost far less than what you pay your ISP for monthly access. For that matter, if having an on-line presence is all you need, having your own domain and site can even be done without you having an ISP, at all. If you'd like to try going down this route, of getting an external host that lets you do what you want, then I'm sure some people can recommend some hosts to try, and some to avoid. I'd avoid hostingbay (with a .net .com or com.au on the end). It's a turnkey service that works reasonably well, *but* nearly always resulted in having to do one or two phone calls to them each year because their automatic renewal service is up the creek. I've used them before, and I have a colleague who still does. I use 1 1 dot com. Inexpensive and reliable. Simple automatic yearly renewal. They support Linux and Windows. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: AM/PM in Thunderbird -
On 02/25/14 03:04, g wrote: On 02/25/14 06:53, Mark LaPierre wrote: On 02/24/14 19:31, g wrote: On 02/24/14 19:13, Ed Greshko wrote: On 02/24/14 20:43, Bob Goodwin wrote: For a long time I have been doing: /etc/locale.confchange:LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 To make Thunderbird list messages with 24 hour time. Can someone suggest a better way to accomplish this? Bob Add export LC_TIME=C to your .bashrc Of course you'll need to logout/login for this to take effect globally in your GUI instead of taking the time needed to logout and login to desktop, i find that opening a terminal and entering; . ~/.bashrc is a faster way to effect new .bashrc entries. That's an effective way to make the change active in the current shell but that does not make the change effective in your current GUI session. It's good practice to try that before you log off just in case you've buggered up your .bashrc bad enough that it won't let you log on again after you log off. did you try it or are you just guessing? :-) No guessing is required. Your current GUI is running in the environment it inherited from it's parent shell when it was started. Changes to .bashrc are not retroactive. Children can not alter the parent environment. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: AM/PM in Thunderbird -
On 02/24/14 19:31, g wrote: On 02/24/14 19:13, Ed Greshko wrote: On 02/24/14 20:43, Bob Goodwin wrote: For a long time I have been doing: /etc/locale.confchange:LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 To make Thunderbird list messages with 24 hour time. Can someone suggest a better way to accomplish this? Bob Add export LC_TIME=C to your .bashrc Of course you'll need to logout/login for this to take effect globally in your GUI instead of taking the time needed to logout and login to desktop, i find that opening a terminal and entering; . ~/.bashrc is a faster way to effect new .bashrc entries. That's an effective way to make the change active in the current shell but that does not make the change effective in your current GUI session. It's good practice to try that before you log off just in case you've buggered up your .bashrc bad enough that it won't let you log on again after you log off. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Using LightScribe on Linux???
On 02/17/2014 04:46 PM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 17 February 2014, Tom Horsley sent: I checked every model HP was selling, and they removed CD/DVD printing from all their new printers, so I abandoned HP. Just recently, I went looking for a printer that could print on discs, more out of curiosity than anything else, and there's none to be found in any of the local shops. I think that, not only has the concept of printing on discs fallen out of favour, but the idea of burning things to disc, too. Blank discs, of any sort, are getting harder to buy, never mind printable ones. Fewer shops stock them, and with fewer options (less brands, less different types of discs). And thanks to changes in media distribution (rental shops dying off, viewing things on-line going up, people exchanging their recorded videos on memory devices instead of DVDs, etc.), I think the mass video piracy that pushed the high volume of blank discs sales, has diminished. I work in legitimate video production, anything from filming sporting matches to stage plays, etc. I have a good reason to buy discs in bulk. Likewise for businesses that do organised back-ups. But I can't really see much need for the average consumer to have to buy 100 blank discs regularly. It's getting to the point where I'm going to need to special order discs, because the shops don't have them, or really crap ones. I did have to go out of my way to buy boxes for the discs. That's another thing that I don't get - shops selling 100 disc tubs of blanks, but no disc boxes or sleeves to put them in. It doesn't make sense. You're right about the jewel box shortage. I've been able to find all I need at Office Depot. I expect that CDs/DVDs and cases will continue to be available at places like Tiger Direct for quite some time. They still carry audio cassettes and they have been long dead for about ten years. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Using LightScribe on Linux???
On 02/16/2014 09:49 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 21:35:25 -0500 Fred Smith wrote: Can anyone point me to a site that may still have it? (or other suitable substitute). I found light scribe labels to be almost utterly invisible and really pitiful looking when I tried it once a long time ago (using the LaCie software which was available at the time). Infinitely better looking labels can be made with inkjet printable media and an inkjet printer that supports media printing (which my Epson Artisan does, though I have to run the software in a virtual windows machine). I use Avery 5692 CD Labels. There are templates available for them suitable for use with OpenOffice/LibreOffice. I print mine on a laser printer, but an Ink Jet approach should work just as well. You will need a guide to get the labels on straight. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Text selection and mouse button sensitivity
On 02/03/2014 01:17 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 02/02/14 21:59, Tim wrote: Or a cordless mouse... The usual wireless ones are a pain, you have to keep on replacing or recharging batteries, and resyncing hardware (the transmitter and receiver pair). Not sure what you mean by the usual wireless ones. FWIW, I've got a Logitech USB keyboard/mouse combo. When I bought them I put a sticker in the battery compartment with the date. I just checked and on Feb 7th it will be one year without changing the batteries in either. Also, neither of the two have any reconnect or resync buttons and I've never had a connection issue. I've also never had to re-solder any connections on any of my mice even though I have one cat that thinks it is hilarious she can maneuver the mouse from anywhere on the desk and toss it to the floor.usually at 3AM. Well you must be a light duty user ;-) -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Text selection and mouse button sensitivity
On 02/01/2014 03:14 PM, g wrote: On 02/01/2014 09:02 AM, Jerry Feldman wrote: While it is very prevalent in Thunderbird, I also had the problem In Firefox and in gnome terminal. Since this occurs across applications, I then installed KDE Plasma to eliminate Gnome. The problems definitely occur in KDE as well as Gnome 3.10.3. Additionally, I'm seeing some similar problems on Konsole. The problem is that in some cases when I try to select text I either cannot select an entire body of text. or sometimes a substitution is done. I also noticed that in Thunderbird sometimes when I left click on a button, it tends to double click. I sometimes run Thunderbird at work via X over IP therough an SSH tunnel to RHEL 5.10, and the problem does not occur so it seems that the issue appears with the local X server. selecting above from you post, presents a question, have you tried using another mouse? That's exactly what I was going to suggest. Over the years I've had many mouse cords go bad right at the point where they enter the mouse body. I usually disassemble the mouse, prune back the cord, and resolder it back together. That fixes the wacky mouse behavior. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Libre office
On 12/12/2013 11:59 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: Is there someone to email to for a suggestion for improving Libre office? It would sure be nice if the program did a grammar check and made suggestions on how to improve one's document. I haven't used MS Word for as long as I've used Linux, and I really miss the grammar-check that it did. There is a mail list: us...@global.libreoffice.org This is their signature line: To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Burning Audio CD with Brasero
On 12/07/2013 08:43 PM, Jim wrote: How does one setup Brasero to burn the name of Songs to CD ? And how does one get Brasero to burn tracks in sequence instead random across CD ? I've found that Brasero burn tracks in the order that they were added to the queue. Add them in the order that you want them to be burned in. Brasero uses the name of the file as it lives on your HD so just name the files the way you want them named on the CD. It may be possible that I don't understand either of your questions so these answers may not apply to your situation. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Service name conflict with system user name
On 11/06/2013 11:08 AM, cheng chen wrote: Hi all, i named a username eirods, than it is already in passwd and group. And i try to install the eirods on this server with rpm -i, Then i get this information. Creating Service Group and Account: eirods at /var/lib/eirods ERROR :: Please delete the existing Service Group eirods before proceeding. is there any solution to fix this? Thanks You must develop a plan to deal with duplicate user names. I've seen this done in several ways. You could add a number to the user name: I.E. eirods01 If you use the person's initials you can build a user name like this: John Alfred Johns = JAJ00 James Albert Jones = JAJ01 If the user has no middle name use the first initial and the first two letters of the last name: Mark LaPierre = MLA03 It's a good plan to make all your user names the same length. It makes managing your system with scripts much easier. Say you adopt a length of six characters. John Alfred Johns = JAJOHN James Albert Jones = JAJONS Mark LaPierre = MLAPIE Se Ta = SETA00 Maybe you might have some direct hires and some contractors on your system. You may want to add an indicator in the user name: John Alfred Johns = JAJC00 Contractor James Albert Jones = JAJC01 Contractor John Alfred Johns = JAJD00 Direct Hire James Albert Jones = JAJD01 Direct Hire It's always good to build in some intelligence into you user names. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Can Fedora count it rpms?
On 10/20/2013 11:45 AM, Beartooth wrote: On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 21:36:01 +0100, John Horne wrote: rpm -qa | wc -l Thanks! That told me 2377; does this number seem plausible? I would say yes. This is what I got on my system. [mlapier@mushroom ~]$ rpm -qa | wc -l 1594 [mlapier@mushroom ~]$ name CentOS release 6.4 (Final) Linux mushroom.patch 2.6.32-358.23.2.el6.i686 #1 SMP Wed Oct 16 17:21:31 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F19 -- F18 feasible?
On 10/20/2013 12:04 PM, Beartooth wrote: On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 18:00:11 +0200, Suvayu Ali wrote: On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 05:04:26PM +, Beartooth wrote: Is there a FedDown lurking out there somewhere? You can always try `yum --releasever=18 distro-sync'. But it goes without saying, there are no guarantees whatsover. Well, I ran it once, and it gave me a lot of errors, then suggested the usual rpm command and the --skipbroken command. I ran the rpm command, then yum clean all for good measure; then I arrowed up to the command above, and added --skipbroken to it. Next time I looked, it was racing through its items faster than I've ever seen it do, on and on, and on. I fact, it's still doing it. If anyone had told me all this fifty years ago, I wouldn't've believed a word of it. I think, assuming this succeeds, that it's time to go through the lists in yumex or packagekit, looking for things I know I never use, and uninstalling them on general principles. MUCH LATER (in fact, next day): I left it still running when I went to bed. This morning it had stopped, saying that it had been killed, but not when nor why. I restarted it, and it's still running. H? I wonder if there's a yum command that will change a i686 system to a x86_64 system of the same release. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F19 -- F18 feasible?
On 10/20/2013 02:28 PM, Chris Kloiber wrote: # yum abracadabra *poof!* :-P On 10/20/2013 1:16 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: H? I wonder if there's a yum command that will change a i686 system to a x86_64 system of the same release. LOL!!! -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: yum repo help needed
On 09/21/2013 10:10 PM, PS = Pete Stieber wrote: PS On 9/20/2013 4:04 PM, MW = Mike Wright wrote: PS MW MW = Mike Wright wrote: PS MW MW PS MW How did you do that? What a great way PS MW to follow who is on a thread. PS MW Seems to me to make it more personal. PS MW PS MW Very nice. PS PS I noticed this format on the wxWidgets mailing list. I believe one of PS the main wxWidgets developers automatically generates the format in an PS email client call Mahogany (http://mahogany.sourceforge.net/). I wasn't PS willing to use this email client, but I manually format replies this way PS because I like the flow of the format. PS PS Pete I wonder how long this can go on before it gets out of control? Cool idea though. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Something compatible to MS Office on Fedora?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/06/2013 08:27 AM, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: Hello, On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Andrew Haley a...@redhat.com mailto:a...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/06/2013 01:09 PM, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: I need to be able to collaborate writing documents with colleagues who use MS Office. That is, we send documents back and forth while each party edits them. It used to be that LibreOffice was acceptable, although way from perfect. But recently, it is causing severe headaches. I'm importing and exporting as DOCX in Writer, and I get cases where it crashes persistently when I want to open a document, or in other cases indentation changes to absurd ways, and math formulas get corrupted and in one case simply vanish. Can you tell me which version this is? Version: 4.1.1.2 Build ID: 4.1.1.2-2.fc19 Best, Oliver -- Oliver Ruebenacker IT Project Lead at PanGenX (http://www.pangenx.com) Be always grateful, but never satisfied. Just a suggestion. I've noticed that Version 4 of LO has problems with files generated with LO 3. Maybe if you try LO 3, you can get the earlier version off the LO web site, it might handle the .docx files better than version 4. I installed LO 4 on my wife's computer and tried to open a spread sheet file that was generated with LO 3. Some of the formulas were scrambled. I then installed LO 3 on her computer and the spreadsheets opened just fine. - -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSKiUQAAoJEOKvcl2cb48HoZwIAJuhQrkkIOWjW92E7cq9HYR+ Sr1QAIfMLofZTIj9S7F8E1YbRjAGLNAcr3voa9EbPzb+P+gyw/6gGPTR9TuAd8CK LXxr5qQrJWhhldfcsmZjkhT3TP7JWAvuVleR7rEOFR8WdhdHTIusTWeIFPxrcD5z RPTx+rA0QqBV0TQa2wv6/9UeEWuU0+ZVj/Mgl6zcKE+f4L9QbgSeNFBnD+kzJa1Z yCKD2ndJud8OqNgTDCdfiEMS/uspbvHuOJPWUS93dSh8+aWc3e1Nni4l5uAldOn6 s1QhrdTa0Gv//HK8on1nLGqoLIX1l9oVJpaUMrX63V4luICql5EyHc7F4GjzPtw= =stB9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- 0x9C6F8F07.asc Description: application/pgp-keys -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Can't read DVD
On 08/24/2013 03:17 PM, Doug wrote: On 08/24/2013 03:52 AM, Martin S wrote: I have a set of DVDs - about 6 years old - I wanted to check out what was on them. All but 1-2 produce input/output erros and can't be read. I opened them on my wifes Windows box, and they were read without any problems at all. /snip/ Can something be done? /M I don't mean to be a wise guy, but you wanted to see what was on them, and you opened them in Windows. Now you know. I'm sure you are aware that there are some things that run in Wiondows that cant be run in Linux. This seems to be an example. That's why most of us who use Linux *most* of the time, have Windows machines. --doug -- Blessed are the peacemakers..for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M.Greeley Or at least a Windows virtual machine. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedup from 18 to 19, fingers crossed
On 07/21/2013 09:03 PM, David wrote: On 7/21/2013 8:51 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: Anyone selling I survived fedup t-shirts? Anyway, the saga is over... Had to boot to a F19 install dvd in rescue mode, chrooted into my system, yum didn't work (no libffi.so.6, I assume I had .5). Tried using yum from the DVD w/ --installroot to /mnt/sysimage... yum was there but couldn't import the python module yummain (or whatever it's called) which brings up the point. Isn't a functional yum kinda important as a tool to rescue your system? got libffi installed with rpm -r /mnt/sysimage and a few other things to get a mostly working yum in the chroot... yum update / distro-sync package-cleanup --problems showed a bunch of unsatisfied dependencies but I couldn't find a way to get package-cleanup or yum to handles these automatically (that would be nice) manually installed dependencies or just yum reinstalled the parent app... Problems gone! (mostly) F18 kernel was newer than F19 and caused my system to continuously reboot after partially loading yum erase F18 kernel, yum install F19 kernel Now it works! Whew, I'm glad that's over Richard I am happy for you. I have no idea just why you had these troubles. I did three updates, one desktop machine and two very different laptops, and I had absolute;y no problems. It may be an artifact of people who have trouble being more likely to write to the list, but it seems that people who have Fedup problems seem to outnumber those who have success outright with no problems first try. That's probably not the case though. The issues are probably caused by people who add stuff from foreign repos. How else would you end up with an F18 kernel that was newer than the F19 kernel that you were trying to replace it with? That doesn't happen to all F18 users does it? My money is on NO. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Password In The Clear
On 07/18/2013 11:59 PM, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote: SNIP You can also visit your membership page at https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/options/users/marklapier%40aol.com On your membership page, you can change various delivery options such as your email address and whether you get digests or not. As a reminder, your membership password is Fedora13List If you have any questions or problems, you can contact the list owner at users-ow...@lists.fedoraproject.org Does anyone else question the wisdom of sending out passwords in the clear in unencrypted email? -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Password In The Clear
On 07/19/2013 03:05 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 07/19/2013 11:52 AM, Mark LaPierre wrote: Does anyone else question the wisdom of sending out passwords in the clear in unencrypted email? I'm not going to check, but I do hope that you didn't sent your real password to the entire list. No, I'm not quite that stupid, but I'm trying. My wife says that I'm really trying. I figured that, since mailman sent my password in the clear, I would take the opportunity to change my password. The password in the email was my old password. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Schr?dinger?s Cat
On 07/13/2013 02:13 PM, Doug wrote: On 07/13/2013 10:39 AM, lee wrote: Klaus-Peter Schrage kpschr...@gmx.de writes: Is there any way to tell grub2 to display this somewhat nicer in the menu, like in /etc/fedora-release: Schrödinger’s Cat. Like Schroedingers Cat? ;) There's something about fonts in grub.cfg: /snip/ Schrödinger's Cat is a wallpaper, the default on Korora, and perhaps on Fedora also. ` BTW, why is it Schrödinger's and not Schrödingers? Schrödinger wasn't a cat. Schrödinger was a philosopher who dreamed up a thought experiment involving a theoretical cat. Look up Schödinger's Cat on Google. BTW: It's acceptable to spell the philosopher's name Schroedinger if you don't have any umlauts in you machine. --doug Erwin Schrödinger was a Physicist, not a philosopher. His cat example was a logical explanation of the quantum mechanical principal of uncertainty. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: error: Failed dependencies: (Fedora 14)
On 06/19/2013 03:34 PM, Thomas Tobian wrote: Hallo guys, I need one more dependency but I do not know how to figure out: error: Failed dependencies: freetype = 2.4.2-3.fc14is needed by freetype-devel-2.4.2-3.fc14.x86_64 how could I get this file, in order to complete my installation for freetype-devel-2.4.2-3.fc14.x86_64 if I set using yum i got this error: Error: Package: freetype-devel-2.4.2-3.fc14.x86_64 (fedora) Requires: freetype = 2.4.2-3.fc14 Installed: freetype-2.4.2-4.fc14.i686 (@kambing-updates) freetype = 2.4.2-4.fc14 Available: freetype-2.4.2-3.fc14.i686 (fedora) freetype = 2.4.2-3.fc14 What should I do, how can I disablethe "kambing-updates" repository? I really appreciate for your help. thank you. man yum search for downgrade -- _ v /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: USB printer connection
On 06/15/2013 09:21 AM, Fred Smith wrote: On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 07:43:02PM +0930, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 15 June 2013, Timothy Murphy sent: I have a printer (HP Officejet J4580) which only has a USB interface. What is the simplest way to connect this printer to a WiFi LAN? Simplest is probably through an access point or router that has a USB port on it, specifically for connecting your printer to a WLAN. It's been a while since I've seen one, so I can't offer a recommendation. Asus RT-N16 apparently supports that configuration, though I have no need to use mine for that since my printer is already networked. YMMV. alternatively, if you don't mind spending a little money, you might look around for a HP JetDirect add-on card for your printer. Or, you could plug it into a USB port on your computer and share it with the network with Samba for no money. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Wow did I screw up! How can I fix this?
On 06/02/2013 12:06 AM, Anthony wrote: On 06/01/2013 10:00 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: Anthony wrote: A little while ago, I tried to install Google Earth. It told me there was a file conflict so I forced it. Then, I decided I didn't want it and uninstalled it. Now, my external USB hard disk isn't mounting and I can't make it mount at all. You could try: yum reinstall filesystem (it's the filesystem pkg google earth rpm has conflicts with) Never mind. Just uplugged and replugged the drive and it showed up again. Thanks!! Anthony Hey Anthony, Could you state clearly what you did to resolve this issue? Did you yum reinstall filesystem? Did you just unplug the drive and then plug it back in again? Did you do both? Did you do something else? It would be good if you put (SOLVED) on the end of the subject line so that those who later search the mail archive can more easily find the solution. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Azureus restart script?
On 06/02/2013 03:43 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: F18 Azureus crashes out at times. Usually during middle of the night, an openjdk problem (already bz'd) Is there a simple way to restart an app, auto-magically. Without overkill like monit? You could write a shell script that will check to see if Azureus is running and restart it if it isn't. Call that script every 5 minutes, or whatever interval seems appropriate, from a cron job. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Can anyone recommend a cheap MP3 player?
On 05/14/2013 07:14 PM, Edward Martinez wrote: On 5/13/2013 3:01 PM, Anthony wrote: Can anyone recommend a good, cheap 8gb MP3 player that will work with Fedora Coby mp3 players works well with Fedora. I am using one as an flash drive and mp3 player. I have two Sansa Clip MP3 players. They work great with Linux. Just plug them in using the supplied USB cable and they appear as an external memory device. Just copy your MP3 files into the appropriate directory. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora vs CentOS -- php/apache and Drupal 7
On 04/16/2013 03:41 AM, Roger wrote: This is a call for understanding because of lack of knowledge. Apologies for the mix of issues in one message but they all relate to the same problem. Firstly, I've been reading the pro's and con's of RHEL and Fedora and am none the wiser. It seems to be around cost of service and lack or availability thereof. The beginning discussion was, I think on stability. It made me start thinking about Fedora vs CentOS because of the problems I'm experiencing with Drupal 7 and php/Apache in Fedora 18 so here goes. I believe that the latest Apache updates of some time ago were flawed or do not correctly interact with php or php updates were flawed and have not been corrected. I have nothing to back up this assertion other than the problems now being experienced and a recommendation to remove php 5.4 and revert to an earlier version. Please don't quote me on this, It's what I've noticed, read and considered. When I use Ruby on Rails I do not have issues because it uses WEBrick. Discussion to date says that CentOS circa 6.n has the Fedora 14 kernel, is rock solid and gets updates every 6 months approx. Fedora 18 has kernel updates every few days or weeks at most. Frankly I enjoy the update cycle. It's interesting to see what gets improved. I have always run latest Fedora versions and have not experienced the current raft of problems. Fedora 18 sudo yum update, updates everything apps, modules, etc that needs security fixes or improvements. CentOS is a server system but can be used for a stable desktop system and has been recommended as an alternative. So what does CentOS 6.n desktop, yum update actually update or does it leave all the apps like cinnamon desktop, skype, gimp, apache, php, libreoffice, python, pulseaudio, gnome, Firefox or chrome as they are first installed, circa Fedora 14ish? One would think that this would leave significant vulnerability. If it runs the latest spate of updates then is it not little different from Fedora 18 but with an old kernel? Further reading implies that the better CentOS installation should be text based as a server only and that I should run all my work on the server not Fedora 18. I am now having significant problems with an already built Drupal 7 site on Fedora 18 after the latest spate of php updates and am perplexed as to what to do to get a quality stable functioning and stay functioning. I've got ubuntu 12.10 but it is now so slow that it's not easy to use. Further, I have 2 gig memory, intel mb, fast dual cpu, 250g hard drives and my desktop fedora 18 uses 55-63 percent memory. I thought this may be affecting php and apache, hence Drupal, but The Dell 1520 laptop has the same internals and memory and uses 25percent of the 2 gig memory, same drupal, same Ruby on Rails. I'm puzzled because after checking ps aux, top, and System Monitor on both they are very similar yet memory usage is markedly different. I do not know what I should be looking at to understand the issues and/or fixes. Is there an app that I can use to track what happens in the browser, apache, php and Drupal when I start the Drupal site on my machine. Help is greatly appreciated thanks in advance Roger Off Topic...Does anyone know of a Rails dev who would be able to help and teach me building a small application? Thanks again Roger Hey Roger, Comparing the two is like comparing apples and oranges. The two are not the same thing. Fedora is a development system with a short life cycle. It provides cutting edge applications. CentOS is an enterprise class system with a 10 year life cycle. It does not support the most recent versions of software for desktop use. Your choice should be driven by your needs. As for security updates, both Fedora and CentOS issue frequent security updates. No need to worry about vulnerability issues with either system. computer consultant Determine what functions you require. Determine what software you need to provide those functions. Determine what OS is required to support that software. Determine what hardware is required to support that OS. /computer consultant As for me, I got tired of having to keep up with the frequent version updates of Fedora. The software that I need runs just fine on CentOS which I use on my desktop. Your mileage my vary. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: driver for a printer connected to a remote computer
On 03/31/2013 05:36 PM, antonio montagnani wrote: A printer connected to a computer on my network is easily discovered but driver is generally a Raw generic driver: therefore I cannot use part of options (i.e. printing multiple pages on a single sheet and so on). If I want to have full functionality I have to install driver by hand using system-config-printer. (I am using a Samsung ML-1610 laser printer) Is this behaviour normal?? Antonio Running Fedora F-18 (Spherical Cow) On my home PcDesktop I suppose the first question would be: How is this printer that is connected to a computer on your network being shared by that computer? Is the machine that the printer is connected to also running F-18? -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Anyone that can Recommend a Laser Printer
On 03/25/2013 11:54 AM, Jim wrote: On 03/24/2013 09:14 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 17960 Mar 1 04:41 rastertosamsungsplc All of the files in /usr/lib/cups/filter has the same owner and permissions as below. -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 132260 Feb 9 2010 rastertosamsungsplc Well I'm fresh out of bright ideas. Do you have selinux enabled? Maybe that's the root of your problems. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Anyone that can Recommend a Laser Printer Samsung Printer Won't Print (Solved)
On 03/25/2013 06:51 PM, Jim wrote: On 03/25/2013 06:33 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: On 03/25/2013 11:54 AM, Jim wrote: On 03/24/2013 09:14 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 17960 Mar 1 04:41 rastertosamsungsplc All of the files in /usr/lib/cups/filter has the same owner and permissions as below. -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 132260 Feb 9 2010 rastertosamsungsplc Well I'm fresh out of bright ideas. Do you have selinux enabled? Maybe that's the root of your problems. Here is the Fix. This website let me download the version 4.00 of the UnifiedLinuxDrive driver which fixed the problem for Fedora 18. But in addition to that I had to goto /usr/lib/cups/filter and do a chmod 755 on some of the files that did not have execute permissions before the driver would work. http://www.bchemnet.com/suldr/ Thanks for your help. ;-) -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Anyone that can Recommend a Laser Printer
On 03/22/2013 07:51 PM, Jim wrote: I'm looking to buy a Laser Printer that will work great in Fedora, in the price range of $200 - $400 price range. any recommendations ? Don't want any more Samsung printers they don't care about Linux support. Hey, don't be so quick to diss on Samsung. They were among the first manufacturers to support Linux, even if they don't do it open source. I've got a Samsung ML-1740 that has worked flawlessly with multiple flavors of Linux, including several Fedora releases. About the only problem I've ever had with it is a cups filter that was installed with incorrect ownership permissions. I'm not sure that was Samsung's fault. I would also recommend that you get and HP printer. They don't support Linux at all, but they do support the HPLip project and they also produce good quality prints. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Anyone that can Recommend a Laser Printer
On 03/24/2013 06:36 PM, Jim wrote: On 03/24/2013 01:28 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: On 03/22/2013 07:51 PM, Jim wrote: I'm looking to buy a Laser Printer that will work great in Fedora, in the price range of $200 - $400 price range. any recommendations ? Don't want any more Samsung printers they don't care about Linux support. Hey, don't be so quick to diss on Samsung. They were among the first manufacturers to support Linux, even if they don't do it open source. I've got a Samsung ML-1740 that has worked flawlessly with multiple flavors of Linux, including several Fedora releases. About the only problem I've ever had with it is a cups filter that was installed with incorrect ownership permissions. I'm not sure that was Samsung's fault. I would also recommend that you get and HP printer. They don't support Linux at all, but they do support the HPLip project and they also produce good quality prints. The thing that is blowing my mind and I just don't understand, Why is this 2009 Samsung driver working on a Asus Mini Laptop w/Fedora 18 and not a Acer and HP PC towers. There has got to be something very Simple going on. Check the cups filter chain for correct ownership and permissions. Set it up in debug mode and look for clues as to what's hanging it up. I fought with it for quite a while on one distribution, I don't remember which one, that had a problem with the filter chain. The issue may have been caused by the distribution, not the Samsung driver. YMMV -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Anyone that can Recommend a Laser Printer
On 03/24/2013 07:11 PM, Jim wrote: On 03/24/2013 06:59 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: On 03/24/2013 06:36 PM, Jim wrote: On 03/24/2013 01:28 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: On 03/22/2013 07:51 PM, Jim wrote: I'm looking to buy a Laser Printer that will work great in Fedora, in the price range of $200 - $400 price range. any recommendations ? Don't want any more Samsung printers they don't care about Linux support. Hey, don't be so quick to diss on Samsung. They were among the first manufacturers to support Linux, even if they don't do it open source. I've got a Samsung ML-1740 that has worked flawlessly with multiple flavors of Linux, including several Fedora releases. About the only problem I've ever had with it is a cups filter that was installed with incorrect ownership permissions. I'm not sure that was Samsung's fault. I would also recommend that you get and HP printer. They don't support Linux at all, but they do support the HPLip project and they also produce good quality prints. The thing that is blowing my mind and I just don't understand, Why is this 2009 Samsung driver working on a Asus Mini Laptop w/Fedora 18 and not a Acer and HP PC towers. There has got to be something very Simple going on. Check the cups filter chain for correct ownership and permissions. Set it up in debug mode and look for clues as to what's hanging it up. I fought with it for quite a while on one distribution, I don't remember which one, that had a problem with the filter chain. The issue may have been caused by the distribution, not the Samsung driver. YMMV How would I run this test, nothing is popping up saying denied permissions . and everything is setup in su - one might go to whatever menu item on your system, maybe system/admin/printing, or something to that effect depending on what desktop you are using. Select the problem printer, try to send a test print to it. When said test print fails to appear then look for a button or check box that says something like, Did the test print work?. Say no it didn't and then look for a place to enable debut mode. It's very unlikely that I have the same desktop DE that you have so I can not be any more specific as the the steps required. Also check the cups logs for clues. [mlapier@mushroom ~]$ locate cups | grep log -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Anyone that can Recommend a Laser Printer
On 03/24/2013 08:54 PM, Jim wrote: The thing that is blowing my mind and I just don't understand, Why is this 2009 Samsung driver working on a Asus Mini Laptop w/Fedora 18 and not a Acer and HP PC towers. There has got to be something very Simple going on. Check the cups filter chain for correct ownership and permissions. Set it up in debug mode and look for clues as to what's hanging it up. I fought with it for quite a while on one distribution, I don't remember which one, that had a problem with the filter chain. The issue may have been caused by the distribution, not the Samsung driver. YMMV var/log/messages Mar 23 13:52:43 michael-Aspire-M3450 kernel: [ 1643.981375] traps: rastertosamsung[1993] general protection ip:4cd237e7 sp:bfbc458c error:0 in libc-2.15.so[4cbe8000+1ab000] Mar 23 13:52:43 michael-Aspire-M3450 abrt[2002]: Saved core dump of pid 1993 (/usr/lib/cups/filter/rastertosamsungsplc) to /var/spool/abrt/ccpp-2013-03-23-13:52:43-1993 (10006528 bytes) Mar 23 13:52:43 michael-Aspire-M3450 abrt[2002]: Saved core dump of pid 1993 (/usr/lib/cups/filter/rastertosamsungsplc) to /var/spool/abrt/ccpp-2013-03-23-13:52:43-1993 (10006528 bytes) Check that rastertosamsungsplc has ownership and permissions similar to other filters in /usr/lib/cups/filter Is should probably be something like: -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 17960 Mar 1 04:41 rastertosamsungsplc -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: OT: Mail system trashes Swedish flag
On 03/20/2013 11:57 AM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: On Wed, 2013-03-20 at 20:05 +1030, Tim wrote: On Tue, 2013-03-19 at 23:41 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: I've just completed the first exercise for using inkscape, which is to draw a Swedish flag. I saved it as a PDF and emailed it to a Swedish friend, but all he got when he viewed the image was an empty rectangle. It seems the trouble is that somewhere in the mail system, Check the MIME type that your mailer is sending it as. It should be a binary one specific to the actual file type. And the file should be not be converted, in any way, at either end. However, if you're mistakenly sending it as a text/plain attachment, mail systems may do whatever they usually do as text files go through them, which can include translating line endings. Likewise, if their end doesn't properly handle the type of attachment that it's receiving. Some systems label PDF files as simply being application/octet-stream, which just means generic non-specific binary, and some systems mishandle such files. When you say you saved it as a PDF, are you actually saving as a PDF filetype, or just tacking PDF onto the end of the filename? Related to that, are you sending a PDF file type without giving it a PDF filename? I'm a little perplexed. Linux doesn't mark files with their type, as Mac systems do. The file has a .pdf extension, and the file command shows it as PDF type. $ file SwedishFlag.pdf SwedishFlag.pdf: PDF document, version 1.5 How did you email it? What mail program did you use? The email program is evolution. I clicked Send. Here is the start of the section of the message containing the attachment in question: Content-Type: application/pdf; name=SwedishFlag.pdf Content-Description: Content-Disposition: inline; filename=SwedishFlag.pdf Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I've attached a copy of SwedishFlag.pdf. Also SwedishFlag.zip, as suggested in an earlier posting. Let's see what the mail system does to them in Linux systems. Thanks - jon Opens and displays correctly in CentOS 6.4 using default document viewer. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: f17, kernel 3.7.x does not work w/ Seymour [AMD Radeon HD 6470M]
On 02/17/2013 09:49 AM, Maurizio Marini wrote: Hello here is an Asus X73B w/ Seymour [AMD Radeon HD 6470M] When I boot with last kernel 3.7: Feb 17 00:33:46 tikal kernel: [0.00] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-3.7.6-102.fc17.x86_64 root=/dev/mapper/vg_tikal-lv_root ro rd.md=0 rd.dm=0 rd.lvm.lv=vg_tikal/lv_swap SYSFONT=True rd.luks=0 rd.lvm.lv=vg_tikal/lv_root KEYTABLE=it LANG=en_US.UTF-8 rhgb quiet Feb 17 00:38:54 tikal kernel: [0.00] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-3.7.3-101.fc17.x86_64 root=/dev/mapper/vg_tikal-lv_root ro rd.md=0 rd.dm=0 rd.lvm.lv=vg_tikal/lv_swap SYSFONT=True rd.luks=0 rd.lvm.lv=vg_tikal/lv_root KEYTABLE=it LANG=en_US.UTF-8 rhgb quiet boot stops with balnk screen, when I boot with vmlinuz-3.6.7-4.fc17.x86_64, all goes ok in messages i find more and more of this lines until I poweroff notebook: Feb 16 22:38:50 tikal kernel: [ 78.004117] radeon :01:00.0: couldn't schedule ib Feb 16 22:38:50 tikal kernel: [ 78.004137] [drm:radeon_cs_ib_chunk] *ERROR* Failed to schedule IB ! -m This sounds quite similar to another string on this same mailing list. The solution was to update the Nvidia driver. Seems the previous version does not work with the current kernel. If you're using the Nouveau driver then just forget I ever suggested this. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Kernel 3.7.x Breaks Video Display
On 02/17/2013 01:23 PM, David Dembrow wrote: Fedora 17 wants to upgrade the kernel (currently 3.6.11-5) to 3.7.x and when I do my dual head display comes up with a single head and a video display that is completely useless - colors are psychedelic and text illegible. I think I have an nVidia card (fedora 17 did not want to play with a matrox card). Is there a way to correct the video for kernel 3.7.x? This sounds quite similar to another string on this same mailing list. The solution was to update the Nvidia driver. Seems the previous version does not work with the current kernel. If you're using the Nouveau driver then just forget I ever suggested this. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Google Earth runs for all users except me
On 02/16/2013 03:29 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 16.02.2013 21:26, schrieb Mark LaPierre: On 02/14/2013 08:03 AM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: I have just installed the proprietary nvidia drivers on an x86_64 system, and have found that google-earth runs correctly when invoked by any user except me (root, guest, etc.), but not when invoked by me (that is jonrysh). The symptom is that when invoked jonrysh everything works correctly (sidebar, top bar, tour guide, etc) EXCEPT for the main window, which is supposed to show the world image; this window is black. When invoked by any other user, google-earth runs exactly as expected. The problem is not bad data in ~/.googleearth; when .googleearth is deleted from my home directory things continue as before. System Details CPU: AMD 64-bits, 4 core Video: GeForce 8400GS OpSys: Fedora 17 with all updates Driver: kmod-nvidia-3.7.3-101.fc17.x86_64-304.64-2.fc17.5.x86_64 Has anyone else seen this? What's the best way to investigate? Thanks - jon Hey Jon, Try this. It worked for me: /etc/fonts/conf.d/65-fonts-persian.conf (a symbolic link to /etc/fonts/conf.avail/65-fonts-persian.conf). Removing that symbolic link, GoogleEarth starts correctly if this really is the reson it shows that i am right to uninstall any not really used package [harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ rpm -qa | wc -l 1509 [harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ rpm -qa | grep font | sort bitmap-console-fonts-0.3-19.fc18.noarch bitmap-fixed-fonts-0.3-19.fc18.noarch bitstream-vera-fonts-common-1.10-21.fc18.noarch bitstream-vera-sans-fonts-1.10-21.fc18.noarch bitstream-vera-sans-mono-fonts-1.10-21.fc18.noarch bitstream-vera-serif-fonts-1.10-21.fc18.noarch dejavu-fonts-common-2.33-4.fc18.noarch dejavu-lgc-sans-fonts-2.33-4.fc18.noarch dejavu-lgc-sans-mono-fonts-2.33-4.fc18.noarch dejavu-sans-fonts-2.33-4.fc18.noarch dejavu-sans-mono-fonts-2.33-4.fc18.noarch dejavu-serif-fonts-2.33-4.fc18.noarch fontconfig-2.10.2-2.fc18.x86_64 fontpackages-filesystem-1.44-5.fc18.noarch ghostscript-fonts-5.50-29.fc18.noarch liberation-fonts-common-1.07.2-12.fc18.noarch liberation-mono-fonts-1.07.2-12.fc18.noarch liberation-sans-fonts-1.07.2-12.fc18.noarch liberation-serif-fonts-1.07.2-12.fc18.noarch libfontenc-1.1.1-2.fc18.x86_64 libreoffice-opensymbol-fonts-3.6.5.2-2.fc18.noarch libXfont-1.4.5-2.fc18.x86_64 msttcorefonts-2.0-6.fc18.20130115.rh.noarch texlive-amsfonts-svn26315.3.0-16.fc18.noarch texlive-fontspec-svn26230.v2.2b-16.fc18.noarch texlive-latex-fonts-svn2.0-16.fc18.noarch urw-fonts-2.4-12.fc18.noarch xorg-x11-fonts-misc-7.5-6.fc18.noarch xorg-x11-font-utils-7.5-10.fc18.x86_64 [harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ rpm -qa | grep font | sort | wc -l 29 [harry My first instinct was to remove the offending package so: yum whatprovides */65-fonts-persian.conf yum erase fontconfig It wanted to Remove 410 Package(s) I decided to pass on that and just: mv 65-fonts-persian.conf to 65-fonts-persian.conf.save Now that I'm thinking about it this is probably not Jon's problem since G Earth starts under other users on his machine but it is a problem that may be stopping other people from starting G Earth on their machines. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: copy full system from old disk to a new one
On 02/16/2013 06:53 PM, Martín Marqués wrote: How can I pass my whole system from an old SATA disk (which is giving me some trouble) to a new disk. I have 4 partitions, all of which I have only passed /home using cp -.a I'm a bit concerned about the root file system, how to change grub, and if I'll have trouble with non-regular files from /var. TIA! http://www.grc.com/intro.htm Look at SpinRight. Also, while you are there, follow the links starting at Shields Up. Millions of internet routers have been produced with UpNP exposed on the internet side. Maybe yours??? -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Google Earth runs for all users except me
On 02/14/2013 08:03 AM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: I have just installed the proprietary nvidia drivers on an x86_64 system, and have found that google-earth runs correctly when invoked by any user except me (root, guest, etc.), but not when invoked by me (that is jonrysh). The symptom is that when invoked jonrysh everything works correctly (sidebar, top bar, tour guide, etc) EXCEPT for the main window, which is supposed to show the world image; this window is black. When invoked by any other user, google-earth runs exactly as expected. The problem is not bad data in ~/.googleearth; when .googleearth is deleted from my home directory things continue as before. System Details CPU: AMD 64-bits, 4 core Video: GeForce 8400GS OpSys: Fedora 17 with all updates Driver: kmod-nvidia-3.7.3-101.fc17.x86_64-304.64-2.fc17.5.x86_64 Has anyone else seen this? What's the best way to investigate? Thanks - jon The problem is some setting in your home environment if it works for all other users. Delete your home and star over. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Samsung laser drivers for Linux - thinking aloud
On 02/14/2013 06:28 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: I have an old system around with F16, which I didnt bother to update to F17 or F18 because I seldom use it (old specs, ancient cpu, low ram ,120GB IDE HD, etc) but XFCE boots and can be used when everything else fails. I decided to plug a Samsung 2165W laser to it through its usb port. The 2165W like many other cheap Samsung lasers are closer to ´winprinters´ because, althought not GDI printers, those use the proprietary Samsung SPL page description language, implemented in Samsung´s windows drivers, -but also as Linux binaries, more on that later-. In other words, these printers don´t enjoy the flexibility of PCL/PCL5 or PostScript printers that are almost ´universal´ and work out of the box with little fiddling around. F16 XFCE showed a nice ´detecting new printer´ dialog on the top-right side of the screen only to conclude 30 seconds later with ´drivers not found´ or a message like that, with a ´search for drivers´ button below. 1. I pressed ´search for drivers´ and the dialog went away, networking leds flickered a bit, then nothing. (??) I decided I had to try again, unplugged and replugged the device, althought this time, after the flickering stopped, it said once again, that no drivers were found, so I choose the option to ´manually point towards driver´ or words to that effect. A file selection dialog asks you to point to a .psd file. 2. Luckily, I had downloaded the Samsung drivers and unpacked those to the hard drive by then, so I pointed it towards ./drivercd/linux/noarch/bin/(something else, I didn´t keep notes) and there was a long list of .psd files, one for each samsung printer model #. I selected 2160 because I know 2160 and 2165 are the same model# family. Cups did its magic and lo and behold I had a printer object with the right cups driver. 3. When I tried to print, obviously, it failed (you saw that coming), the problem ´rasterizer not found´ or words to that effect. It was complaining about a missing package dubbed ´raster2samsungspl´ engine. Obviously Samsung´s idea is for one to run the ´install script´ as root. Apparently it copies binary files around (and libs, like libstdc++) to fixed destination paths and hopes for the best. My idea, on the other hand, was that cups should be (by now) intelligent enought to search for some sort of ´driver description file´ and install the driver from the cups side, not from a manufacturer-provided ugly bash script. I was wrong. apparently the only way to make it work is by running Samsung´s install bash script. So the $1M question is: can´t Samsung design drivers which can be installed via a package manager (rpm), or via a cups install routine, instead of the current method?. I´m sure they can, in theory. Which is the right venue to complain about this? (other than Samsung, which I´m sure couldn´t care less about us Linux users). There was an ´openprinting´ effort... or perhaps the FSF? or the cups project?. One would think that by 2013 distros would have gotten around to design a foolproof way for hardware manufacturers to properly package drivers (even proprietary blobs) which would then be installed semi-automagically by the Linux printing subsystem, no?. Anything wrong with my analysis?. Yeah, I know just run the darn manufacturer-provided bash install script and be grateful it at least works. Yes, that´d be the easy way. I don´t think it´s the right way going forward No, I´m not asking for directions on how to get my printer working. No, please don´t tell me to update to F17 or F18. No, please don´t start a flamewar. My point is about the packaging of Samsung´s drivers and the install method they have chosen. doesn´t it suck? what -if anything- can we do to get it improved?. FC Samsung was among the first to support Linux. We all, those of us on this list, love Linux but even we would not use it if there was no hardware that supported it. It used to be that almost no hardware worked with Linux. Basic stuff like video drivers, printer drivers, even basic IO interface cards, ... If Samsung wants to build bash scripts to install their proprietary drivers I say more power to them. If you want to repackage their stuff in an RPM then I say more power to you. That's the great thing about Linux. You have the choice, unlike that other personal computer operating system we have all come to love so much. NOT! -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Google Earth runs for all users except me
On 02/15/2013 04:00 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 15.02.2013 16:44, schrieb Jonathan Ryshpan: On Thu, 2013-02-14 at 21:49 -0500, Mark LaPierre wrote: On 02/14/2013 08:03 AM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: I have just installed the proprietary nvidia drivers on an x86_64 system, and have found that google-earth runs correctly when invoked by any user except me (root, guest, etc.), but not when invoked by me (that is jonrysh). The symptom is that when invoked jonrysh everything works correctly (sidebar, top bar, tour guide, etc) EXCEPT for the main window, which is supposed to show the world image; this window is black. When invoked by any other user, google-earth runs exactly as expected. The problem is not bad data in ~/.googleearth; when .googleearth is deleted from my home directory things continue as before. System Details CPU: AMD 64-bits, 4 core Video: GeForce 8400GS OpSys: Fedora 17 with all updates Driver: kmod-nvidia-3.7.3-101.fc17.x86_64-304.64-2.fc17.5.x86_64 Has anyone else seen this? What's the best way to investigate? The problem is some setting in your home environment if it works for all other users. Delete your home and star over. So much is obvious. I had hoped to avoid having to recreate my environment, which has taken me a lot of work to get right. ls -lha ~/ if there any google folder? delete this folder kill the whole userhome for one application is an idiotic suggestion - nearly any user application has it's setting in /home/username/.appname and after delete this folder the specific application is reset If you had bothered to read the mail chain you would know that he already removed the .appname directory from his home to now effect. After he makes himself a new home he can copy back his various .appname directories one at a time until G Earth stops working. There are any number of things that he could have set in his environment that could be causing his problem. One of the greatest things about Linux is that you can customize the shit out of it. One of worse things about Linux is that you can customize the shit out of it. Not all customizations are compatible with each other or with all applications. He can either futz around with his environment for hours on end until he happens upon the solution, or he can just wipe the whole thing, get G Earth working, then copy back his .appname directories back in. I'm betting that the latter will involve a lot less pain than the former. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Terminal tabs, how to remove -
On 02/11/2013 05:50 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 02/11/2013 02:21 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: I'm referring to tabs in the terminal as in Firefox tabs! And with 12 work spaces open and then a mix of tabs in each one I will quickly go into cerebral overload! I've already brought tabs up accidentally and it led to confusion for me. Does not seem like a good idea to me ... OK, I can see why you don't want them. Personally, if I need two terminals I open a second one instead of a new tab. I don't think I've ever used tabs in a terminal or seen a reason to want them. I've no objection to the feature, I just don't need it. Oh wow! Terminals with tabs. I just discovered that because of this email chain. I love Unix/Linux. It's just so awesome that you have so many great choices, unlike that other PC OS, that makes you do everything their way. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: How do I write a script to randomly choose a vpn location with NetworkManager?
On 02/10/2013 05:58 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 10.02.2013 23:56, schrieb T.C. Hollingsworth: On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Bill Oliverven...@billoblog.com wrote: I commonly access the net through a vpn service that has multiple locations for me to use. Right now, when I go into KDE with Fedora 18, NetworkManager automatically gets me on the correct wireless net (if I've set the option), but I have to access the vpn by opening the network icon in the desktop panel and clicking on whichever vpn site I want to use. I can click on connect automatically on any one of the vpn options and it will connect. That works fine. But... what I want to do is to *randomly* choose one of the options and connect to it automatically when I boot up. I know how to use bash or python or perl to write a script, but I don't know how to tell it to talk to NetworkManager. Anybody know how to do that, or can point me to a tutorial or such? nmcli con up idconnection name See `nmcli con` for a list of connections and `man nmcli` for more information but RANDOMLY? wtf - a computer is not a gambling machine what sense makes a RANDOM connection? Use random number generator in your script that generates a random number from zero to the number of connections to choose from. You said that you know how to write script. Use a case statement, or similar, to select the appropriate connection to activate. Fire off this script at boot up to make your connection. Be sure to schedule the script to start up after NM has started. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: OT: what's with the 'i'?
On 01/31/2013 10:55 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Way way OT: Just out of interest, why do some people use the non-existent word i, not to mention other violations of capitalization rules when 1) their Shift key is clearly not broken, and 2) they aren't the poet e.e. cummings? I've seen a number of people do this (admittedly a tiny minority) and never understood it. Do they think it's cool? Are they expressing their inner rebel? Were they punished by their English teacher at school? Is hitting Shift too much effort? Enquiring minds want to know. Sorry, this has been bugging me for ages and I had just had to get this off my chest. Feel free to ignore. poc Another irritating colloquial figure of speech is the use of the word and in place of the word to in association with the word try. Example, I will try and work that out. Is the speaker going to try that out, or is the speaker going to work that out, or is the speaker planning on both? What I assume is the speaker meant that the speaker will try to work that out. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: ntp
On 01/24/2013 06:46 PM, Jan Litwiński wrote: I have proglem with ntp service, I did: systemctl enable ntpd.service systemctl start ntpd.service but ntp don't start at boot, starting by hand works. As a solution I created rc.local and add to it systemctl start ntpd.service and it works. I think ntpd starts before NetworkManager, My question is what is correct solution ? TIA Hey Jan, I don't know if F18 has changed the way services start but if there is an /etc/rc.d directory full of: drwxr-xr-x. 2 root root 4096 Jan 12 21:00 init.d -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 2617 Sep 17 05:54 rc drwxr-xr-x. 2 root root 4096 Jan 12 21:01 rc0.d drwxr-xr-x. 2 root root 4096 Jan 12 21:01 rc1.d drwxr-xr-x. 2 root root 4096 Jan 12 21:01 rc2.d drwxr-xr-x. 2 root root 4096 Jan 12 21:01 rc3.d drwxr-xr-x. 2 root root 4096 Jan 12 21:01 rc4.d drwxr-xr-x. 2 root root 4096 Jan 24 01:04 rc5.d drwxr-xr-x. 2 root root 4096 Jan 12 21:01 rc6.d -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 220 Sep 17 05:54 rc.local -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 19370 Sep 17 05:54 rc.sysinit you can set the order of service starts by setting sym-links in the appropriate run level directory. /etc/rc.d/rc5.d [mlapier@mushroom rc5.d]$ ll lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 14 Jan 2 2012 S58ntpd - ../init.d/ntpd [mlapier@mushroom rc5.d]$ There are two link name formats. KnnService SnnService K stands for kill, S stands for start. The two digit number sets the order of action. link ntpd with a number larger than all the network service setups. That should do it. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registerd Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: laptops with 1200 vertical resolution
On 01/05/2013 02:20 PM, Tim wrote: Tim: I don't know about elsewhere, but here in Australia, high resolution TV has been a bit of a flop. R. G. Newbury: HD will come. If you like sports you might hit on your local station to broadcast Oz footie in HD. We had a sports-only HD channel, that eventually caved in and stopped being sports-only. Sports would be a good example for a need for HD, with all that text on the screen, and a tiny ball in a field of players. Unfortunately, most large screen TVs are LCD, and they're crap at fast motion (as a camera pans across the field, the screen is really blurry - some of that's the MPEG compression, a lot of that is technology of an LCD screen). Digital TV has been the decimation of our television stations. It cost an outrageous fortune to replace the transmitter, and all the production equipment, and our local stations have become little more than a relay of Sydney television, just with local adverts and a tabloid excuse for a news service. Two of them have left their studios to shift to mere office space. Having to change to HD, just a few years later, is another expense that the stations don't want. Analogue equipment might last twenty years, and not need endless fiddling. Digital equipment needs replacing every few years, and has required daily management by engineering. If you want to make a disaster, digitise/computerise it. [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Wow Tim, You're still running FC9 on an internet connected device? I can understand why you don't accept email. [mlapier@mushroom ~]$ uname -r 2.6.32-279.19.1.el6.i686 -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registerd Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: many crashes of X server, what should I investigate?
On 01/01/2013 04:42 PM, Frédéric Bron wrote: I run F17 with regular updates. I have many crashes of the X server: - freezing when switching between user - freezing when starting a session Many times, Ctrl+Alt+Backspace does not work, also Ctrl+Alt+F[1-9] does not work either so that I cannot even start a terminal session to see what happens. I find it difficult to justify my choice of linux over windows in front of the familiy... I would like to investigate but I do not know what to look at. Could you help? Are there some logs that I can look at after the crash? I used to run GDM + Gnome sessions. I changed to KDM + Kde but still have issues. Thanks for helping, Regards, Frédéric Hey Frédéric, What kind of machine are you running F17 on? What processor? How much memory? What video card? Do you have it overclocked? Are you using the default video driver that comes with F17 or did you install the proprietary video driver issued by the video chip manufacturer? There are a lot of things that can impact video system performance. Do you have another machine networked to this machine? If you do you can open a terminal session on this machine using ssh. You might find some clues in dmesg $ dmesg | tail You want to set up and test ssh before time so that you will know that it works when you need it. If your machine is hard crashing so that you can't log on through ssh, if the keyboard locks up so that caps lock and number lock don't work, then life gets more difficult when it comes time to diagnose lockups. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registerd Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: need ATI driver
On 12/15/2012 10:17 PM, Gary Kline wrote: I d/loaded a 12.10 ubuntu CD and it installed with the full 19:6 resolution on my dell 3010. so =somebody has hacked the driver code for my graphics card. ubuntu is causing me some grief--things I had forgotten since I ran 12.04 on a bare-bones AMD quad a year ago. --one fault is that here on fedora-17 I have mutt and .muttrc configured to get mail from my registrar, godaddy. f-17 uses sendmail. ubuntu uses postfix. and the files I have here do not work on tao here [ethos] mail is queued in /var/spool/mail/kline. over on my new dell, I dont see how to configure mutt to look in the directory where mutt thinks it should find mail. so I think the Easiest thing would be to buy an nvidia graphics card and drop it into my new dell. then fedora-17 or -18 would give me 1920x1980 and I would be clapping (with one hand:) otherwise, try and see if I can apt-get install sendmail on tao. maybe that will work. gary ps: my KVM switch was not the problem. http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registerd Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: How to use repoquery?
On 12/12/2012 12:29 PM, Sergio wrote: On 12/12/2012 02:46 PM, Neal Becker wrote: $ winword p11-kit: couldn't load module: /usr/lib/pkcs11/gnome-keyring-pkcs11.so: /usr/lib/pkcs11/gnome-keyring-pkcs11.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory $ repoquery --whatprovides /usr/lib/pkcs11/gnome-keyring-pkcs11.so [... silence...] Any ideas? You have to wait until it speaks. It does the database update etc. silently in the background. [mlapier@mushroom ~]$ repoquery --whatprovides */gnome-keyring-pkcs11.so gnome-keyring-0:2.28.2-8.el6_3.i686 gnome-keyring-0:2.28.2-7.el6.i686 [mlapier@mushroom ~]$ -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registerd Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: failing drives or false positives
On 11/22/2012 03:04 PM, Brian West wrote: On 11/22/2012 12:58 PM, JD wrote: On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Brian West bionicfre...@gmail.com mailto:bionicfre...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone yesterday i began receiving messages from one of my drives in my hard drive dock that it could be failing. so i tested my notebooks drive and the docked drive in question both said tests completed without error both short and extended tests were performed is my drive really failing or is this a false positive. logs for each drive are below what really gets me is both of the drives give the exact same output for the most part should i be concerned? Thanks in advance for your time. Brian West You did not append the error messages you say you are getting. I too am having drive errors in the system log. Interested in your log or error messages in /var/log/messages. where do i locate the errors? Didn't you say in your original post that, yesterday i began receiving messages from one of my drives in my hard drive dock that it could be failing.? What are those messages? -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registerd Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Architectural CAD
On 10/28/2012 01:56 PM, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: Can anyone suggest an architectural CAD package comparable to AutoCAD for use in preparing layered drawings for residential remodeling? --Doc Savage Fairview Heights, IL I use Ribbon Soft Qcad. There is a free edition but I use the pro edition. http://www.ribbonsoft.com/en/qcad -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registerd Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Architectural CAD
On 10/28/2012 04:33 PM, Doug wrote: On 10/28/2012 03:06 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: On 10/28/2012 01:56 PM, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: Can anyone suggest an architectural CAD package comparable to AutoCAD for use in preparing layered drawings for residential remodeling? --Doc Savage Fairview Heights, IL I use Ribbon Soft Qcad. There is a free edition but I use the pro edition. http://www.ribbonsoft.com/en/qcad I looked at some of these things, and the free QCad is probably the nearest to AutoCAAD, but it's NOT AutoCAD--some of the commands don't work. And some of the features that you might need are not there. (I couldn't find scale.) It's the same old problem-- any imitation CAD routine will cause you to have to learn all over again. If you have Windows, there are sources of (quite a bit) lower-priced AutoCAD. I won't go into detail but there are! You just can't call Autodesk for help! I will never understand why some of these ultra-high-priced outfits don't make older editions available for a reasonable price. AutoCad could sell the old Light version from 2000 or so for, say, $150, which is probably not much lower than when it was new, and make a nice buck out of people who will never buy the latest four-figure version--or the five-figure full-blown version. --doug Qcad has scale. From the help menu: Menu: Modify - Scale Scale: sz Command: scale Description: Scales entities by a given factor towards a given center. This tool can create single or multiple copies of existing entities. Procedure: After starting the scale tool, the CAD toolbar shows the selection tools. Use them to select the entities you want to scale. Click the right arrow button in the CAD toolbar to continue. Set the center of the scaling with the mouse or enter a coordinate in the command line. The scale dialog is displayed (Figure 52). To scale the entities without keeping the original entities, choose Delete Original, to copy them choose Keep Original. Finally you can create a number of scaled copies at once, by choosing Multiple Copies and entering the number of copies in the text line below. Note that '9' will create 9 copies and keep the original - so there will be 10 instances of the entities in the end. The copies will have the same attributes and be on the same layer as the original entities. To change that default behavior, you can check Use current attributes or Use current layer. Click OK to scale the entities. The selected entities will be deselected automatically. The free community edition does not have all the features found in the Pro edition. You don't get what you don't pay for. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registerd Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Dual boot with Windows question
On 10/27/2012 03:54 PM, Alex wrote: Hi, I'd like to install Windows 7 and fc17 on my laptop that has two disks. I'd like to use one disk for Windows and one for Linux. Should I just install Windows first, then Linux? How do I replace the Windows boot loader with grub and still be able to boot Windows? Thanks, Alex Hey Alex, Install Windows first. Then install Linux. If you try to do it the other way around Windows will wipe the boot loader. Windows has no concept of dual booting. Install Windows on what it sees as the C:/ drive. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registerd Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fwd: F17- Firefox is not rendering correct colours
On 10/21/2012 02:28 PM, antonio montagnani wrote: antonio montagnani ha scritto / said the following il giorno/on 21/10/2012 20:06: Today I shot some pictures with my DSLR, I transferred to my computer and made some work on them by the GIMP. I loaded some images to my facebook account but when I see some image I get some blueish colour. In Shotwell colours are fine, same as in the Gimp: furthermore on a different computer running Ubuntu, colours are fine. Any idea??? Solved!! I disabled the colour management for any image by setting : gfx.color_management.mode 0 instead of 2 Hey Antonio, Where did you find the gfx.color_management.mode setting? Is this on a menu or in some config file somewhere? I looked for it in my preferences menu but couldn't find a place to set it. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registerd Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: how to disable unset HISTORY
On 10/16/2012 02:52 AM, Tiziana Manfroni wrote: Hi, I have some users that delete .history file (in tcsh shell), so I can't see their commands. Can I disable the command unset history? If it is not possible, what can I do? Thanks in advance Tiziana If you are creative with scripting you may be able to use tail -f to build a scraper. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registerd Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: process group display?
On 10/16/2012 12:13 PM, Jack Craig wrote: Hi Folks, Some you may have used the tree cmd to provide an ascii output of a directory/file tree. is anyone aware of a similar tool, but to display a 'tree' of a process group? eg, a process group leader with sub processes display? tia, jackc... you could start with ps axo ppid,pid,comm and build from there. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registerd Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: wget or curl and yousendit.com
On 10/13/2012 08:12 PM, Ian Malone wrote: On 13 October 2012 23:08, JDjd1...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a way to use wget or curl or clive to download files from yousendit.com? Would appreciate some examples. Each file link, when you cright-click it, takes you to the full link of the file, and you can then use that link as an arg to wget. If feeling brave you could script link extraction from the page and a second curl request, alternatively wget's recursive -r option may be what you want: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/applications/145133-get-complete-webpage-wget-curl.html Here's a bit of a guide to build your own script. # GET THE WEB PAGE wget -q -O rundown.php?prgId=2 http://www.npr.org/templates/rundowns/rundown.php?prgId=2prgDate=$DATE; sleep 1 # NOW STRIP OUT THE URLs AND GET THE MP3 FILES for URL in `grep http://pd.npr.org/anon.npr-mp3/npr/atc; rundown.php?prgId=2 | sort | uniq | awk -F\ '{print $4}' | awk -F? '{print $1}'` do wget $URL 2 /dev/null sleep 1 done -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registerd Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: wget or curl and yousendit.com
On 10/14/2012 12:03 AM, JD wrote: On 10/13/2012 06:26 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: Here's a bit of a guide to build your own script. # GET THE WEB PAGE wget -q -O rundown.php?prgId=2 http://www.npr.org/templates/rundowns/rundown.php?prgId=2prgDate=$DATE; sleep 1 # NOW STRIP OUT THE URLs AND GET THE MP3 FILES for URL in `grep http://pd.npr.org/anon.npr-mp3/npr/atc; rundown.php?prgId=2 | sort | uniq | awk -F\ '{print $4}' | awk -F? '{print $1}'` do wget $URL 2 /dev/null sleep 1 done Thank you Mark. After looking into the source page containing all the links, and saw how the URL of each file to download is constructed, I built and ran the following script which worked like a charm. PS: The first URL given to wget came to me in an email message sent to me by yousendit.com because the uploader has me in his distribution list on yousendit.com. #!/bin/bash wget -c -O ysi.txt 'https://www.yousendit.com/dl?phi_action=app/orchestrateDownloadrurl=httpsetc' grep 'directDownload?' ysi.txt | sed -e 's/.*directDownload?/https:\/\/www.yousendit.com\/directDownload?/' -e 's/=bas.*$/=bas/' | sort | uniq urls # so that I can examine this file in case my sed script has an error while read url; do wget -c -ndH $url done urls Thanx for the inspiration Mark. Great minds think alike. ;-) -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registerd Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: wget or curl and yousendit.com
On 10/12/2012 09:50 PM, JD wrote: Is there a way to use wget or curl or clive to download files from yousendit.com? Would appreciate some examples. It looks like you have to log in to yousendit to get access to your file. That would indicate that it is not scriptable with anything like wget. You would have to get the login page and then provide the required credentials. There is almost always a Captcha that you have to read and decode put there just to prevent the kind of thing you want to do. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registerd Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Virtualbox Error
On 10/08/2012 12:15 AM, Junayeed Ahnaf wrote: Getting this error: http://i.imgur.com/5pjLy.png Configuration: AMD FX 6100(5 cores to vbox) , 8 GB DDR3 1067 Mhz (4GB to vbox) Virtualbox installed from oracle repo, fedora 17 64 bit. Trying to boot arch Junayeed Ahnaf Nirjhor Did this installation run previously? If not, what did you do just before it stopped working? -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registerd Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Startup applications
On 10/07/2012 10:54 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Sunday, 7. October 2012. 15.17.02 Timothy Murphy wrote: How can I stop Skype starting up at login on my Fedora-17/KDE laptop? It is not listed in ~/.config/autostart/ or in ~/.kde/Autostart/ or even ~/.kde/share/autostart/ . (In fact all these are empty.) KDE is trying to be session-aware as much as possible, and every program that was running at the logout time will be reactivated on the next login (that's the idea, at least). That's how sessions work and that's why skype gets restarted --- because you didn't explicitly shut it down before login. To prevent it from restarting, go to systemsettings - startup and shutdown - session management, find the field called applications to be excluded from sessions, and put skype in there. Haven't tried it (I happen to want skype to start on login), but it should work. ;-) HTH, :-) Marko I don't use KDE but Gnome used to have System/Preferences/Startup Applications The Option tab on the Startup Applications Preferences dialog box had a checkbox [Automatically remember running applications when logging out]. If you put a check in that box then whatever was running at log out would automatically restart on log in. There was also a button [Remember Currently Running Application] that you would use after you got your desktop set up the way you wanted it to look at log in. It's probably not the best idea to check the [Automatically remember running applications when logging out] box. If you have an application that crashes your session it could get restarted automatically the next time you log in potentially crashing it again. Could get messy. ;-) Like I said, I don't use KDE, but I'll bet there is something similar there. This has been a standard part of most Unix desktops for the last 20 years or more. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registerd Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Why graphics drivers are proprietary
On 10/03/2012 06:27 AM, Alan Cox wrote: On Tue, 02 Oct 2012 20:05:38 -0400 Mark LaPierremarklap...@aol.com wrote: On 10/02/2012 04:18 PM, Alan Evans wrote: On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Roberto Ragusa wrote: So final users would have had the best hardware running the best drivers (open source too). This is something which must not be permitted to happen. :-/ Not if it helps to sell the competitor's hardware. Programmers, and corporations for that matter, have the right to decide how they choose to distribute their property. Software is not property. Corporations are people too Only in some broken countries but you are correct they still have to survive. Companies do open source seriously do it because it suits them for their own purposes. Thats generally a good thing because self interest is a great motivator and far better than the kind of sham token support from many companies. Free market economics sucks at finding optimal behaviour, it's just it sucks less than most of the other models tried 8) Alan If I were to write a book, or paint a picture, or create a poster, or, by any other creative means, produce some product from my efforts it is my right to decide how, when, or if, I choose to distribute, transfer, or share said product. If my employer is paying me to create that product then the product belongs to my employer, under whatever circumstances and conditions set forth by my employer and the conditions of my employment, by the same right. The fruit of my labor is my employers property. Software is no different. Software I write for my employer belongs to my employer to do with as my employer decides. Software I write on my own belongs to me. I retain the rights to said software until I decide how and when to release it. That software is not different, morally or legally, from any other product I produce. If I create a drawing that drawing is my property, no different from that software I wrote, or that book that I wrote, or that airplane that I built. It is my property and it it is my right to dispose of said property at my pleasure. My comments above should not be construed to say that I favor or condone the practice of patenting software. Software is similar to the product of any other creative practice. Books, drawings, photographs, and software property should be protected under copyright. Even the Free Software Foundation agrees with this position by reason of promulgating the practice of licensing software property under open source licensing. Let me restate that. The FSF promotes licensing of software property under open source license. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registerd Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Why graphics drivers are proprietary
On 10/02/2012 04:18 PM, Alan Evans wrote: On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Roberto Ragusa wrote: So final users would have had the best hardware running the best drivers (open source too). This is something which must not be permitted to happen. :-/ Not if it helps to sell the competitor's hardware. Programmers, and corporations for that matter, have the right to decide how they choose to distribute their property. Corporations are people too, that is to say they are people banded together for a common purpose, and they have to eat too. Some choose to release their software in open format and then make their money from support services. That model doesn't work well for hardware manufacturers. People get pissed off if their hardware doesn't work. It's hard to download a new video card if you get my drift. Software can be readily patched and re-installed with little cost aside from the patching. Can't do that with a $BIG price high end video card. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registerd Linux user No #267004 www.counter.li.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: XFCE keyboard and windowing functionality loss
On 08/21/2012 05:16 PM, Geoffrey Leach wrote: On 08/21/2012 09:46:32 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 21:24:05 -0400 (EDT) Max Pyziurp...@brama.com wrote: Greetings, Today, suddenly certain keyboard and windowing functionality stopped. No longer can I cycle through windows on a desktop by using Alt- Tab. Also, the windowing capabilities - maximize/minimize a window disappeared. There are a few other similar abnormalities. I thought that this may have been due to some sort of a software update; but I haven't done any in the last few days. I know that there is an oddity/bug in XFCE that the keyboard stops functioning if you hold down one of the shift keys for too long. But this seems to be something very differt. If anyone has experienced this problem and resolved it, please share your solution. Otherwise, it's into the Gnome 3 world. Sounds like (as several other folks have mentioned) xfwm4 died. If you can get to a terminal, do: xfwm4 --replace If you cannot, you can try clearing your session out and logging in again: rm ~/.cache/sessions/xfce4-sessions* Note that this will clear out things like what applications you had running, etc. Here's a solution to the problem of restarting xfwm4 without a keyboard. Put the command in a launcher. I haven't confirmed this yet, but as there is no keyboard involved, it should work. Except that a launcher only works if the WM is running. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registerd Linux user No #267004 www.counter.li.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: 3.5.[12] won't boot - GeForce GTX 285
On 08/18/2012 11:25 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Does anyone have this NV5x-based video card, and can boot the 3.5.1 and 3.5.2 kernels, with nouveau? The last kernel I can boot is 3.5.0. The two kernels that follow are hanging for me, at the point where everything gets handed over to plymouth and userland. I've waited long enough to be certain that things are really at a screeching halt, and userspace is not coming up, blindly, behind the scenes. I don't really have anything solid that points to the video card as the culprit. It's just a hunch. 849341. [mlapier@mushroom ~]$ name CentOS release 6.3 (Final) Linux mushroom.patch 2.6.32-279.5.1.el6.i686 #1 SMP Tue Aug 14 21:14:52 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux [mlapier@mushroom ~]$ GeForce 7600 GS Boots on nouveau according to dmesg, runs on Nvidia driver in user space. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registerd Linux user No #267004 www.counter.li.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Perl programming related question.
On 08/16/2012 11:28 AM, Lázaro Morales wrote: Hello folks, This question is a bit off-topic but the Fedora Community is awesome. This is the question, How can I from this string: my $url = http://somesite.org/somefile.zip;; # Example URL obtain only this sub-string: my $file = somefile.zip; Thanks very much, Lázaro. * * Este mensaje de correo electrónico ha sido procesado por el * * Servidor de Correo Electrónico de Frioclima y es un correo * * válido para el dominio: frioclima.com.cu * * There's rindex too: my $file =substr($url,rindex($url,/),200); That will work no matter how many sub domains you might have. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registerd Linux user No #267004 www.counter.li.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: crontab 4th Tuesday of month
On 07/29/2012 02:33 PM, Charlie Brune wrote: On 07/28/2012 08:20 AM, Tony Molloy wrote: On Saturday 28 July 2012 12:03:09 Frank Murphy wrote: 15 18 22-28 * 2 /command I thought the last tuesday would be covered by above. But it has run everyday since 22nd. Have googled a bit: http://hintsforums.macworld.com/showthread.php?t=25110 plus other crontab pages. http://hintsforums.macworld.com/member.php?s=2584787478dc5ab0791da9 ba8d650aa5u=28924 15 18 22-28 * * test 'date +\%a' != Tue || /command Am uncertain if above would work ootb. man crontab (22 September 2010) doesn't shed light on this. Try the following eg. this picks out the first sunday of the month 07 03 1-7 * * test `date +\%a` = Sun /usr/local/bin/backup-full So 15 18 22-28 * * test 'date +\%a' = Tue command Tony Not sure if your syntax will work. If it doesn't, here's what has worked for me: 23 1 22-28 * * [ `date +\%a` == Tue ] /usr/local/bin/my-script Charlie If you are firing off a script with this why don't you build the logic into the script? Let cron fire off the script every Tuesday. The script can determine if it's the correct Tuesday and take whatever action you want if it is or exit if it isn't. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registerd Linux user No #267004 www.counter.li.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F16 - Adding a second video card
On 07/15/2012 11:08 PM, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote: On 07/15/2012 10:05 PM, Jeffrey Ross wrote: I have an older motherboard/processor (Intel DG965RY with a Pentium D) the system has an integrated video adapter (82G965) and I'd like to add a second video Card (PCI card ATI RAGE IIC) I'm not looking for fast video but would like to use 2 monitors. I put the ATI card in the machine and an lshw shows the card: -display UNCLAIMED description: VGA compatible controller product: 3D Rage IIC 215IIC [Mach64 GT IIC] vendor: ATI Technologies Inc When I first booted the system with the card, the BIOS made the ATI card the primary and once X started the system went blank, changed the bios to force the integrated card to be primary and everything works as before, however I don't know how to tell X that there is a second video card and to start using it. What's the magic command that I'm unable to find? From the GUI I've checked displays under system settings but I only see my integrated video interface, and detect displays produces nothing but the existing display. You may need to install the Mach64 X driver, and/or force the kernel to load the appropriate drive before X starts. There is a two-level complication to graphics under Linux. Then you may need to generate a real xorg.conf file so that X sees both cards, It has been a while since I did two monitor setups, but I thing X -configure may do most of the work once the kernel module is loaded. HTH Many older MoBos will not support two video cards. When you plug a video card in the expansion slot it disables the integrated one. This is not an issue with Linux but with the MoBo. If you must have dual monitor support you will have to track down a video card that will support dual monitors. Most dual monitor video cards will not be supported by older MoBos either because they require high speed slots that are not available on the older MoBos. You will run into the same problem if you try to install a Gb network card. Not enough band width is available on the older MoBo to support those cards. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registerd Linux user No #267004 www.counter.li.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Motherboards
On 07/11/2012 03:35 AM, Gary Hodder wrote: Hi all, I am wondering what motherboards users are using on there Linux box? I had a Asus m4a79t delux but in corroded under 2 years and failed. Asus blames the customer oxidation and will not give warranty even though it has 3 years warranty. Strange how a old p5 Intel machine beside it is perfectly fine. Asus warranty not worth the paper its written on. Have a Asus crosshair V formula that spent more times being repaired than been used. It still comes up with eprom errors on boot and runs like a dog and Asus will not give money back as they say they do not support Linux. So we have proved that this brand is crap, what else is there? Am looking at the Gigabyte ga-990fxa-d3, does this board play well with Linux as looking at putting it in what was the m4a79t box. Thanks Gary. I have an MSI K9MM-V MoBo in my CentOS 6.2 box. While I had F12/F13 on it I had issues with the HD on the IDE port disappearing at random intervals. To get the drive back I had to reboot the machine. I don't know if this behavior is still the same with CentOS 6.2 because I eventually removed the IDE drive. The built in sound card has line and microphone inputs. I've never been able to get the line input to work. The microphone input did work for a short while. I was never able to make it work again after the first few days. As for Gigabyte Mobos and Gigabyte's Hybrid EFI in connection to Linux you might want to read this web site: http://www.rodsbooks.com/gb-hybrid-efi/ -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registerd Linux user No #267004 www.counter.li.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: And don't let the door hit you on the way out
On 07/03/2012 07:10 PM, Robert Myers wrote: Hello, all, I've been using Red Hat and then Fedora for a long time. The only reason I've stuck with Fedora this long is that I am very grateful to Red Hat for its contribution to the community. HOWEVER. As time has passed, Fedora has become increasingly demanding, idiosyncratic, and user-hostile. I can't keep up with the tick-tock any more, and I'm tired of playing where's waldo so as to figure out how to do the most obvious things, like how to bring up a terminal or how to change the power settings with the latest release of FC-infinity. The precipitating event is actually caused by Windows, which will not accommodate all 24Gb of RAM I have on one machine without my paying blackmail (which I would have to pay over and over again), and Fedora doesn't even aim at being a replacement for Windows. Perhaps I will become just as dissatisified with Ubuntu as I have been with everything else, but maybe I'll die or become senile first. My impression of system professionals has not changed since I first started using computers, which was long before anything resembling x86 was even a gleam in anyone's eye. All I can say is I hope y'all are having fun, because your endless flights of fancy are nothing but a pain for ordinary users. My dream is a bare-metal hypervisor that actually works, so that I can actually switch between one idiosyncratic system and another with the blink of an eye. Fedora will stay on some machines for a while, but I think I can see the last station on the line. I wish I could say it's been fun. Robert Myers. How about something way more stable, like CentOS or Scientific Linux. Both are based on RHEL which is the beneficiary of all the testing that goes on here in Fedora. You do realize that Fedora is the test environment for RHEL no? If you don't want to be a tester than use and enterprise level OS. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registerd Linux user No #267004 www.counter.li.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Red Hat Will Pay Microsoft To Get Past UEFI Restrictions
On 06/02/2012 04:43 PM, Alan Cox wrote: The firmware already has this. Yes, now my mental cobwebs are getting cleaned out. I do recall reading about this, a while ago. Much of it is there for network booting (PXE etc) and in fact a fair bit of it is there in the modern old style BIOS too. Before it boots the OS. Fine UEFI is a powerful enough base to be capable of supporting this. I don't know if anyone has implemented it, but you have a complete chain of keys to verify the request. Should be interesting to see how the great unwashed will accept waiting 2-3 minutes for their PC to boot, while their firmware is trying to grab CRLs over the network. I think firmware people are smarter than this. However there are a whole array of issues with BIOS and other firmware management. For example all those wireless cards that need firmware not in RPM format are completely outside of RPM package management if the firmware is updated to fix a security hole. In the USB case its probably not a big deal but in the PCI case a card with DMA and complex firmware could provide holes. That's also going to be fun if anyone tries to lock down Fedora. There are ways and means but it's pretty ugly trying to sign stuff you can't ship but users need to make their box work. Should also be interesting to see what happens when you put it behind a proxy that drops the packets on the floor. I'm not a great fan of the quality of firmware code but give then some credit 8). Alan Mark's law of corporate governance: Whatever they do, they will do it to you, not for you. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registerd Linux user No #267004 www.counter.li.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: compiling mtpfs ?
On 05/28/2012 04:35 PM, Jim wrote: Fedora 15 [root@BigOne mtpfs-1.1]# ./configure checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c checking whether build environment is sane... yes checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p... /bin/mkdir -p checking for gawk... gawk checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes checking for gcc... gcc checking whether the C compiler works... yes checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out checking for suffix of executables... checking whether we are cross compiling... no checking for suffix of object files... o checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes checking for gcc option to accept ISO C89... none needed checking for style of include used by make... GNU checking dependency style of gcc... gcc3 checking whether gcc and cc understand -c and -o together... yes checking for pkg-config... /usr/bin/pkg-config checking pkg-config is at least version 0.9.0... yes checking for FUSE... yes checking for MTP... no configure: error: Package requirements (libmtp = 1.1.0) were not met: Requested 'libmtp = 1.1.0' but version of libmtp is 1.0.6 Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you installed software in a non-standard prefix. Alternatively, you may set the environment variables MTP_CFLAGS and MTP_LIBS to avoid the need to call pkg-config. See the pkg-config man page for more details. Did you try # yum update libmtp -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registerd Linux user No #267004 www.counter.li.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Printing advice
On 04/30/2012 12:52 AM, Roelof 'Ben' Kusters wrote: Would anyone be able to advise me regarding what printer to buy? Requirements are: - Can print A3 (29.7 x 42 cm, 11.6 x 16.5 inch) (and A4) sized paper. - Scores 'good' on a price/quality ratio; meaning not super-high-professional-quality but good enough for a small office where the primary function is NOT printing; for the office that is, the printer's primary function is obvious... :D - Is supported by Fedora. I have (good) experiences with Epson and HP, but I am hoping for some input from people with (more) experience. I've been using Samsung products for a long time. They were among the first to support Linux. Their products are inexpensive to purchase and their supplies are affordable as well. Some of the more snooty don't like them because the don't issue open source drivers. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registerd Linux user No #267004 www.counter.li.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Does the US Constitution need to be revised?
On 04/18/2012 08:14 PM, Hal wrote: Just a question and request for reasoned comment... Yes but if we did we would, quite probably, only make it worse. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registerd Linux user No #267004 www.counter.li.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Does the US Constitution need to be revised?
On 04/18/2012 08:32 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 04/18/2012 05:14 PM, Hal wrote: Just a question and request for reasoned comment... What in the world does this have to do with Fedora Linux? SOAPA may be a good example of what it might have to do with Linux and Open Source. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registerd Linux user No #267004 www.counter.li.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: how configure systemd for not killing console shells when switching runlevels 3-5?
On 04/09/2012 05:05 PM, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: On F16/systemd-37-17.fc16.i686, when I'm working in runlevel 3 on consoles and then use telinit 5 or systemctl isolate runlevel5.target, then all my console shells and programs there running are killed. As well when I'm working in runlevel 5 on consoles and then switch to runlevel 3 - all console shells are killed too. Is there any solution how fix this systemd crap so that will work as in F14- (i.e. logged consoles will remain running) ? Why are you using telinit? There is no need to do that just to swap from X to a terminal. Just leave your X session running and swap to a terminal with [Ctrl][Alt][F2-6]. Swap back to your X session with [Ctrl][Alt][F7]. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registerd Linux user No #267004 www.counter.li.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Fwd: Re: parallel bash scripts
Hi mark. I have a series of php apps that are async, and modify different tbls within a mysql db. The php apps also perform other tasks as well. The process needs to be able to periodically run the php apps. The shell scripts are used to run the individual php apps. During testing, I wanted to be able to run the apps, in a background manner, as well as display the output for debugging. The system has ~5-10 php apps that will be running. The overall goal for all of this is part of a targeted web crawler, where the php apps perform backend processing to manage the data from the crawling process as it gets stored in the database. So the process should fire up all of the processes, and they should then run every X secs... At least thats the way I ultimately want it to work. But I'm unable to figure out how to do this, and at the same time, display the output for the debugging process... Hopefully I've done a better job of explaining some of what this is for.. On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 10:23 PM, Mark LaPierre marklap...@aol.com wrote: I don't understand what you are trying to do. Do you want to run these commands in series? Run one, wait for it to complete, then start the other? If that's where you want to go then leave off the trailing ampersand but keep the redirection. The output of the first program will appear in the terminal due to the redirection. When the first program ends the second program will start. That one needs redirection of standard out to standard error too so that it's output will appear in the terminal as well. Solution with trailing ampersand is appropriate for endless loops. Solution without trailing ampersand is appropriate for serial operation. I put the loop counter in the demo program just to stop the thing without having to us ps and kill. Without the loop counter they will continue to print inter-twined messages forever. Does the program webservice_setup.sh start programs itself that you are trying to read the output from? Are they correctly redirected to send their standard output to standard error? On 03/27/2012 10:01 PM, bruce wrote: Hi mark. the following is part of what i have tried... and what isn't working. i changed the test shell scripts to no longer have infinite loops. they simply execute the php app one time. however, it still doesn't work. in the initial shell script, it calls a php app that does some mysql processes. the php app has a number of echo/print msgs to track what's going on for testing.. when running as a background process the shell script/php app isn't working. the cmdline sits.. when i select the return key.. the process is diplayed as being stopped... if i remove the background the shell script runs... -- not working /apps/parseapp2/webservice_setup.sh12 -- works /apps/parseapp2/webservice_setup.sh /apps/parseapp2/webservice_setup.sh --- echo starting the osu webservice test mysql -uroot1 -pfoo /apps/parseapp2/setup_tblDb.sql mysql -uroot1 -pfoo /apps/parseapp2/webservice/webservice_tbls.sql /apps/parseapp2/parse_tbl_setup.php echo started the osu webservice test thoughts??? thanks On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Mark LaPierremarklap...@aol.com wrote: Check out the redirection at the end of each command. 12 redirects the standard out of your child command to the standard error which then appears in the parent shell. At the end the last launches your command into a background shell and then moves on to launch the next command. The redirections don't care if the command ever terminates. The result is that both commands are launched and the parent shell terminates leaving the standard error attached to the terminal that the parent was launched in. On 03/27/2012 09:08 PM, bruce wrote: marklap...@aol.com hey mark what you have, appears to be pretty close to what i had... except my tests never ended... the loops are infinite... can i do a fpaste and have you take a look at what i have? -btuce On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Mark LaPierremarklap...@aol.com wrote: On 03/27/2012 05:25 PM, bruce wrote: hi. got a couple of test bash scripts. dog.sh, cat.sh each script runs the underlying php in an endless loop. I'm trying to figure out how to run the scripts in parallel, from the same parent shell script. something like: test.sh where dog.sh would be : while true do pgrep dog if [ $? -ne 0 ] then /dog.php fi sleep 5 done my current tests, run dog.sh, which runs the dog.php ... but the test never gets to run cat.sh thoughts/comments... thanks Hey Bruce, Do you mean to run these subprograms in parallel or in series? cat.sh #! /bin/bash CAT=0 until [ $CAT -eq 10 ] do echo Inside a dog it's too dark to read. $CAT CAT=$[$CAT + 1] sleep 2 done dog.sh #! /bin/bash DOG=0 until [ $DOG -eq 10 ] do echo Next to a dog a book is man's best friend. $DOG DOG=$[$DOG + 1] sleep 2 done test.sh
Re: parallel bash scripts
On 03/27/2012 10:35 PM, bruce wrote: Hi mark. I have a series of php apps that are async, and modify different tbls within a mysql db. The php apps also perform other tasks as well. The process needs to be able to periodically run the php apps. The shell scripts are used to run the individual php apps. During testing, I wanted to be able to run the apps, in a background manner, as well as display the output for debugging. The system has ~5-10 php apps that will be running. The overall goal for all of this is part of a targeted web crawler, where the php apps perform backend processing to manage the data from the crawling process as it gets stored in the database. So the process should fire up all of the processes, and they should then run every X secs... At least thats the way I ultimately want it to work. But I'm unable to figure out how to do this, and at the same time, display the output for the debugging process... Hopefully I've done a better job of explaining some of what this is for.. On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 10:23 PM, Mark LaPierremarklap...@aol.com wrote: I don't understand what you are trying to do. Do you want to run these commands in series? Run one, wait for it to complete, then start the other? If that's where you want to go then leave off the trailing ampersand but keep the redirection. The output of the first program will appear in the terminal due to the redirection. When the first program ends the second program will start. That one needs redirection of standard out to standard error too so that it's output will appear in the terminal as well. Solution with trailing ampersand is appropriate for endless loops. Solution without trailing ampersand is appropriate for serial operation. I put the loop counter in the demo program just to stop the thing without having to us ps and kill. Without the loop counter they will continue to print inter-twined messages forever. Does the program webservice_setup.sh start programs itself that you are trying to read the output from? Are they correctly redirected to send their standard output to standard error? On 03/27/2012 10:01 PM, bruce wrote: Hi mark. the following is part of what i have tried... and what isn't working. i changed the test shell scripts to no longer have infinite loops. they simply execute the php app one time. however, it still doesn't work. in the initial shell script, it calls a php app that does some mysql processes. the php app has a number of echo/print msgs to track what's going on for testing.. when running as a background process the shell script/php app isn't working. the cmdline sits.. when i select the return key.. the process is diplayed as being stopped... if i remove the background the shell script runs... -- not working /apps/parseapp2/webservice_setup.sh12 -- works /apps/parseapp2/webservice_setup.sh /apps/parseapp2/webservice_setup.sh --- echo starting the osu webservice test mysql -uroot1 -pfoo/apps/parseapp2/setup_tblDb.sql mysql -uroot1 -pfoo/apps/parseapp2/webservice/webservice_tbls.sql /apps/parseapp2/parse_tbl_setup.php echo started the osu webservice test thoughts??? thanks On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Mark LaPierremarklap...@aol.comwrote: Check out the redirection at the end of each command. 12 redirects the standard out of your child command to the standard error which then appears in the parent shell. At the end the lastlaunches your command into a background shell and then moves on to launch the next command. The redirections don't care if the command ever terminates. The result is that both commands are launched and the parent shell terminates leaving the standard error attached to the terminal that the parent was launched in. On 03/27/2012 09:08 PM, bruce wrote: marklap...@aol.com hey mark what you have, appears to be pretty close to what i had... except my tests never ended... the loops are infinite... can i do a fpaste and have you take a look at what i have? -btuce On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Mark LaPierremarklap...@aol.com wrote: On 03/27/2012 05:25 PM, bruce wrote: hi. got a couple of test bash scripts. dog.sh, cat.sh each script runs the underlying php in an endless loop. I'm trying to figure out how to run the scripts in parallel, from the same parent shell script. something like: test.sh where dog.sh would be : while true do pgrep dog if [ $? -ne 0 ] then /dog.php fi sleep 5 done my current tests, run dog.sh, which runs the dog.php ... but the test never gets to run cat.sh thoughts/comments... thanks Hey Bruce, Do you mean to run these subprograms in parallel or in series? cat.sh #! /bin/bash CAT=0 until [ $CAT -eq 10 ] do echo Inside a dog it's too dark to read. $CAT CAT=$[$CAT + 1] sleep 2 done dog.sh #! /bin/bash DOG=0 until [ $DOG -eq 10 ] do echo Next to a dog a book is man's best
Re: floppy
On 03/28/2012 11:14 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote: Hello, man I make a mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy -t msdos every thing seems OK (no complain), but it is just not mounted: df does not show it and I can redo the command again and again! mformat A: works fine! Thank for your help. Is this floppy formatted with a DOS FAT partition? You can't mount it if there's no file system. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: [CentOS] parallel bash scripts
I solved a similar problem by installing gnu parallel on my system. It did everything that I wanted, and better than I would have coded. Ali On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 6:37 PM, Mark LaPierre marklap...@aol.com wrote: Check out the redirection at the end of each command. 12 redirects the standard out of your child command to the standard error which then appears in the parent shell. At the end the last launches your command into a background shell and then moves on to launch the next command. The redirections don't care if the command ever terminates. The result is that both commands are launched and the parent shell terminates leaving the standard error attached to the terminal that the parent was launched in. On 03/27/2012 09:08 PM, bruce wrote: marklap...@aol.com hey mark what you have, appears to be pretty close to what i had... except my tests never ended... the loops are infinite... can i do a fpaste and have you take a look at what i have? -btuce On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Mark LaPierremarklap...@aol.com wrote: On 03/27/2012 05:25 PM, bruce wrote: hi. got a couple of test bash scripts. dog.sh, cat.sh each script runs the underlying php in an endless loop. I'm trying to figure out how to run the scripts in parallel, from the same parent shell script. something like: test.sh where dog.sh would be : while true do pgrep dog if [ $? -ne 0 ] then /dog.php fi sleep 5 done my current tests, run dog.sh, which runs the dog.php ... but the test never gets to run cat.sh thoughts/comments... thanks Hey Bruce, Do you mean to run these subprograms in parallel or in series? cat.sh #! /bin/bash CAT=0 until [ $CAT -eq 10 ] do echo Inside a dog it's too dark to read. $CAT CAT=$[$CAT + 1] sleep 2 done dog.sh #! /bin/bash DOG=0 until [ $DOG -eq 10 ] do echo Next to a dog a book is man's best friend. $DOG DOG=$[$DOG + 1] sleep 2 done test.sh #! /bin/sh /home/mlapier/test/dog.sh 12 /home/mlapier/test/cat.sh 12 [mlapier@mushroom test]$ ./test.sh [mlapier@mushroom test]$ Next to a dog a book is man's best friend. 0 Inside a dog it's too dark to read. 0 Next to a dog a book is man's best friend. 1 Inside a dog it's too dark to read. 1 Next to a dog a book is man's best friend. 2 Inside a dog it's too dark to read. 2 Next to a dog a book is man's best friend. 3 Inside a dog it's too dark to read. 3 Next to a dog a book is man's best friend. 4 Inside a dog it's too dark to read. 4 Next to a dog a book is man's best friend. 5 Inside a dog it's too dark to read. 5 Next to a dog a book is man's best friend. 6 Inside a dog it's too dark to read. 6 Next to a dog a book is man's best friend. 7 Inside a dog it's too dark to read. 7 Next to a dog a book is man's best friend. 8 Inside a dog it's too dark to read. 8 Next to a dog a book is man's best friend. 9 Inside a dog it's too dark to read. 9 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org ___ CentOS mailing list cen...@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list cen...@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: parallel bash scripts
On 03/27/2012 05:25 PM, bruce wrote: hi. got a couple of test bash scripts. dog.sh, cat.sh each script runs the underlying php in an endless loop. I'm trying to figure out how to run the scripts in parallel, from the same parent shell script. something like: test.sh where dog.sh would be : while true do pgrep dog if [ $? -ne 0 ] then /dog.php fi sleep 5 done my current tests, run dog.sh, which runs the dog.php ... but the test never gets to run cat.sh thoughts/comments... thanks Hey Bruce, Do you mean to run these subprograms in parallel or in series? cat.sh #! /bin/bash CAT=0 until [ $CAT -eq 10 ] do echo Inside a dog it's too dark to read. $CAT CAT=$[$CAT + 1] sleep 2 done dog.sh #! /bin/bash DOG=0 until [ $DOG -eq 10 ] do echo Next to a dog a book is man's best friend. $DOG DOG=$[$DOG + 1] sleep 2 done test.sh #! /bin/sh /home/mlapier/test/dog.sh 12 /home/mlapier/test/cat.sh 12 [mlapier@mushroom test]$ ./test.sh [mlapier@mushroom test]$ Next to a dog a book is man's best friend. 0 Inside a dog it's too dark to read. 0 Next to a dog a book is man's best friend. 1 Inside a dog it's too dark to read. 1 Next to a dog a book is man's best friend. 2 Inside a dog it's too dark to read. 2 Next to a dog a book is man's best friend. 3 Inside a dog it's too dark to read. 3 Next to a dog a book is man's best friend. 4 Inside a dog it's too dark to read. 4 Next to a dog a book is man's best friend. 5 Inside a dog it's too dark to read. 5 Next to a dog a book is man's best friend. 6 Inside a dog it's too dark to read. 6 Next to a dog a book is man's best friend. 7 Inside a dog it's too dark to read. 7 Next to a dog a book is man's best friend. 8 Inside a dog it's too dark to read. 8 Next to a dog a book is man's best friend. 9 Inside a dog it's too dark to read. 9 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: parallel bash scripts
On 03/27/2012 09:37 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: Check out the redirection at the end of each command. 12 redirects the standard out of your child command to the standard error which then appears in the parent shell. At the end the last launches your command into a background shell and then moves on to launch the next command. The redirections don't care if the command ever terminates. The result is that both commands are launched and the parent shell terminates leaving the standard error attached to the terminal that the parent was launched in. On 03/27/2012 09:08 PM, bruce wrote: marklap...@aol.com hey mark what you have, appears to be pretty close to what i had... except my tests never ended... the loops are infinite... can i do a fpaste and have you take a look at what i have? -btuce On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Mark LaPierremarklap...@aol.com wrote: On 03/27/2012 05:25 PM, bruce wrote: hi. got a couple of test bash scripts. dog.sh, cat.sh each script runs the underlying php in an endless loop. I'm trying to figure out how to run the scripts in parallel, from the same parent shell script. something like: test.sh where dog.sh would be : while true do pgrep dog if [ $? -ne 0 ] then /dog.php fi sleep 5 done my current tests, run dog.sh, which runs the dog.php ... but the test never gets to run cat.sh thoughts/comments... thanks Hey Bruce, Do you mean to run these subprograms in parallel or in series? cat.sh #! /bin/bash CAT=0 until [ $CAT -eq 10 ] do echo Inside a dog it's too dark to read. $CAT CAT=$[$CAT + 1] sleep 2 done dog.sh #! /bin/bash DOG=0 until [ $DOG -eq 10 ] do echo Next to a dog a book is man's best friend. $DOG DOG=$[$DOG + 1] sleep 2 done test.sh #! /bin/sh /home/mlapier/test/dog.sh 12 /home/mlapier/test/cat.sh 12 [mlapier@mushroom test]$ ./test.sh [mlapier@mushroom test]$ Next to a dog a book is man's best friend. 0 Inside a dog it's too dark to read. 0 Next to a dog a book is man's best friend. 1 Inside a dog it's too dark to read. 1 Next to a dog a book is man's best friend. 2 Inside a dog it's too dark to read. 2 Next to a dog a book is man's best friend. 3 Inside a dog it's too dark to read. 3 Next to a dog a book is man's best friend. 4 Inside a dog it's too dark to read. 4 Next to a dog a book is man's best friend. 5 Inside a dog it's too dark to read. 5 Next to a dog a book is man's best friend. 6 Inside a dog it's too dark to read. 6 Next to a dog a book is man's best friend. 7 Inside a dog it's too dark to read. 7 Next to a dog a book is man's best friend. 8 Inside a dog it's too dark to read. 8 Next to a dog a book is man's best friend. 9 Inside a dog it's too dark to read. 9 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: parallel bash scripts
I don't understand what you are trying to do. Do you want to run these commands in series? Run one, wait for it to complete, then start the other? If that's where you want to go then leave off the trailing ampersand but keep the redirection. The output of the first program will appear in the terminal due to the redirection. When the first program ends the second program will start. That one needs redirection of standard out to standard error too so that it's output will appear in the terminal as well. Solution with trailing ampersand is appropriate for endless loops. Solution without trailing ampersand is appropriate for serial operation. I put the loop counter in the demo program just to stop the thing without having to us ps and kill. Without the loop counter they will continue to print inter-twined messages forever. Does the program webservice_setup.sh start programs itself that you are trying to read the output from? Are they correctly redirected to send their standard output to standard error? On 03/27/2012 10:01 PM, bruce wrote: Hi mark. the following is part of what i have tried... and what isn't working. i changed the test shell scripts to no longer have infinite loops. they simply execute the php app one time. however, it still doesn't work. in the initial shell script, it calls a php app that does some mysql processes. the php app has a number of echo/print msgs to track what's going on for testing.. when running as a background process the shell script/php app isn't working. the cmdline sits.. when i select the return key.. the process is diplayed as being stopped... if i remove the background the shell script runs... -- not working /apps/parseapp2/webservice_setup.sh12 -- works /apps/parseapp2/webservice_setup.sh /apps/parseapp2/webservice_setup.sh --- echo starting the osu webservice test mysql -uroot1 -pfoo /apps/parseapp2/setup_tblDb.sql mysql -uroot1 -pfoo /apps/parseapp2/webservice/webservice_tbls.sql /apps/parseapp2/parse_tbl_setup.php echo started the osu webservice test thoughts??? thanks On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Mark LaPierremarklap...@aol.com wrote: Check out the redirection at the end of each command. 12 redirects the standard out of your child command to the standard error which then appears in the parent shell. At the end the last launches your command into a background shell and then moves on to launch the next command. The redirections don't care if the command ever terminates. The result is that both commands are launched and the parent shell terminates leaving the standard error attached to the terminal that the parent was launched in. On 03/27/2012 09:08 PM, bruce wrote: marklap...@aol.com hey mark what you have, appears to be pretty close to what i had... except my tests never ended... the loops are infinite... can i do a fpaste and have you take a look at what i have? -btuce On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Mark LaPierremarklap...@aol.comwrote: On 03/27/2012 05:25 PM, bruce wrote: hi. got a couple of test bash scripts. dog.sh, cat.sh each script runs the underlying php in an endless loop. I'm trying to figure out how to run the scripts in parallel, from the same parent shell script. something like: test.sh where dog.sh would be : while true do pgrep dog if [ $? -ne 0 ] then /dog.php fi sleep 5 done my current tests, run dog.sh, which runs the dog.php ... but the test never gets to run cat.sh thoughts/comments... thanks Hey Bruce, Do you mean to run these subprograms in parallel or in series? cat.sh #! /bin/bash CAT=0 until [ $CAT -eq 10 ] do echo Inside a dog it's too dark to read. $CAT CAT=$[$CAT + 1] sleep 2 done dog.sh #! /bin/bash DOG=0 until [ $DOG -eq 10 ] do echo Next to a dog a book is man's best friend. $DOG DOG=$[$DOG + 1] sleep 2 done test.sh #! /bin/sh /home/mlapier/test/dog.sh 12 /home/mlapier/test/cat.sh 12 [mlapier@mushroom test]$ ./test.sh [mlapier@mushroom test]$ Next to a dog a book is man's best friend. 0 Inside a dog it's too dark to read. 0 Next to a dog a book is man's best friend. 1 Inside a dog it's too dark to read. 1 Next to a dog a book is man's best friend. 2 Inside a dog it's too dark to read. 2 Next to a dog a book is man's best friend. 3 Inside a dog it's too dark to read. 3 Next to a dog a book is man's best friend. 4 Inside a dog it's too dark to read. 4 Next to a dog a book is man's best friend. 5 Inside a dog it's too dark to read. 5 Next to a dog a book is man's best friend. 6 Inside a dog it's too dark to read. 6 Next to a dog a book is man's best friend. 7 Inside a dog it's too dark to read. 7 Next to a dog a book is man's best friend. 8 Inside a dog it's too dark to read. 8 Next to a dog a book is man's best friend. 9 Inside a dog it's too dark to read. 9 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change
Re: flash or firefox?
On 03/10/2012 06:23 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: The weather radar pointed at by the http://www.sun-sentinel.com/ newspaper site stopped fully loading after a flash update a while back. http://content.wdtinc.com/clients/sunsentinel/map.php?MAPID=10995CLIENTID=20421 never seems to completely draw (and sometimes doesn't even get started). I thought the site was busted till I tried it on Windows XP and IE and it still works perfectly there. Has anyone else seen this sort of thing with latest flash? I (naturally) suspect flash, so I made this (probably useless) bug report with adobe: https://bugbase.adobe.com/index.cfm?event=bugid=3134872 I'm running Shockwave Flash 11.1 r102 on Firefox 10.0.1. No problems here. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registerd Linux user No #267004 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Getting Video to work with Netscape (F14)
On 03/03/2012 06:22 PM, r...@dwf.com wrote: OK, Im sure this has been covered a dozen times, but my scans of the listdon't come up with anything. I just recently brought up F14 on one machine. Netscape is there, but when I go to watch a video from Netscape it tells me This CNN feature is optimized for Adobe Flash Player version 10.1 or higher. I push the buttons as requested, and Flash seems to be LOADED, but not connected to Netscape. What do I do??? I remember a screen where you had to set these things 'on' in a previous Netscape, but cant find that screen in the current one. Thanks in advance. May I suggest going to Adobe's download site and installing their repo. Then it's just a matter of yum install flash. That way you will be notified of any flash security issues whenever Adobe updates their rpm packages. Hardly a month goes by without a new security issue being found in Flash. If I were you, I would consider upgrading your system. F14 reached End Of Life back about December 2011. F14 will not get any more security or bug fixes. If you are reluctant to upgrade to F15/16/17 to avoid dealing with Gnome 3 teething pains then consider a different distribution. Scientific Linux and CentOS are both based on RHEL which is itself based on Fedora. Both SL6.2 and Cos6.2 still use the Gnome 2 interface because RHEL 6.2 uses it. Another side benefit to moving to an RHEL based distribution is that they have a 10 year support window instead of the Fedora 18 month window. By the time they reach EOL Gnome 3 should have figured out all the bugs and features that are an issue at the moment. Fedora is awesome, for what it is, which is a test and development bed for RHEL. If you don't need bleeding edge software or if you require a more stable platform over time then Fedora probably isn't your best choice. I've been using Red Hat Linux since when you had to install it from a stack of floppy disks because CD drives had not been invented yet. First Red Hat up to RH9 when they stopped releasing install CDs, then Fedora up to F14, and now CentOS 6.2. YMMV -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registerd Linux user No #267004 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: bootup stops here for 20+ seconds; why?
On 02/20/2012 03:47 PM, Mike Wright wrote: Hi all, First off, I'm using the eol'd f14. In order to build a Xen machine I rolled my own xen-4.1 and kernel 3.0.0 (at the time the fedora kernel didn't have dom0 support built-in). I see that booting pauses at registering tcp NFSv4.1 In dmesg is [19.291388] RPC: Registered tcp NFSv4.1 backchannel transport module. Next timestamp is 21 seconds later. chkconfig --list (nfs|nfslock) both show all runlevels off. I'm still confused about nfs. If I'm not going to provide nfs are there services that shouldn't be started? Can anybody shed and share some light on this? TIA, Mike Wright If you are not using NFS then you shouldn't be starting the service. Turn it off and then disable it so it won't get started again. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registerd Linux user No #267004 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: schroedinger
On 02/07/2012 07:17 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 5:15 PM, david walcroftdwalcr...@bigpond.com wrote: My yum update today updated this program,I cannot find any doc's, only schroedinger's cat on google. Anybody Know what this program does? % rpm -qi schroedinger Name: schroedinger Version : 1.0.11 Release : 1.fc16 Architecture: x86_64 Install Date: Tue 24 Jan 2012 06:24:41 PM MST Group : System Environment/Libraries Size: 899563 License : GPL+ or LGPLv2+ or MIT or MPLv1.1 Signature : RSA/SHA256, Mon 23 Jan 2012 09:10:37 AM MST, Key ID 067f00b6a82ba4b7 Source RPM : schroedinger-1.0.11-1.fc16.src.rpm Build Date : Mon 23 Jan 2012 12:52:02 AM MST Build Host : x86-15.phx2.fedoraproject.org Relocations : (not relocatable) Packager: Fedora Project Vendor : Fedora Project URL : http://www.diracvideo.org/ Summary : Portable libraries for the high quality Dirac video codec Description : The Schrödinger project will implement portable libraries for the high quality Dirac video codec created by BBC Research and Development. Dirac is a free and open source codec producing very high image quality video. The Schrödinger project is a project done by BBC RD and Fluendo in order to create a set of high quality decoder and encoder libraries for the Dirac video codec. Yah, but is it alive? -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registerd Linux user No #267004 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Sound stopped working -
On 02/04/2012 03:42 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: On 03/02/12 23:11, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2012-02-03 at 20:01 -0500, Mark LaPierre wrote: On 02/03/2012 12:26 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: Sound stopped working after I tried a USB Sound Adapter, which only lit its indicator leds. Also, it would be helpful if there was a way to generate a continuous tone or keep aplay looping continuously when messing with cables under the desk, etc. I have not been able to find anything to do that. Suggestions wanted, what do I do next? Bob . while [ 1 0 ] do aplay sound.wav done while true do ... etc. poc Good, this works but how to stop once started? All I found is Ctrl Alt Backspace which is inconvenient. As for the original problem I now suspect hardware, perhaps the headphone jack on the front panel but that's a work in progress. Thanks, Bob Just kill the terminal that it's running in. As long as you haven't started it with it will die when the terminal dies. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registerd Linux user No #267004 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Sound stopped working -
On 02/03/2012 12:26 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: Sound stopped working after I tried a USB Sound Adapter, which only lit its indicator leds. Normally the following should produce sound from the loudspeaker. [root@box6 bobg]# aplay /usr/share/sounds/purple/login.wav ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1018:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave aplay: main:660: audio open error: Device or resource busy It does not, and no sound shows on the PAVC input or output bars. I'm not certain of how signal moves through the sound circuit but it looks like it doesn't get from PA to ALSA input? I can feed a signal into the sound input jack and produce normal indications on the PAVC display and sound at the loudspeaker. Apparently plugging in that USB sound adapter switched something in the logic. Rebooting has not changed things? Is there a default conig. file somewhere? I've tried everything I can think of via the alsamixer display settings. Everything did work normally before this. Also, it would be helpful if there was a way to generate a continuous tone or keep aplay looping continuously when messing with cables under the desk, etc. I have not been able to find anything to do that. Suggestions wanted, what do I do next? Bob . while [ 1 0 ] do aplay sound.wav done -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registerd Linux user No #267004 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Virtual machine = Physical machine - fix screen resolution?
On 01/28/2012 09:01 PM, Philip Rhoades wrote: People, I sent this note to the Fedora virtual list so I thought I might try here . . I installed a Fedora 16 x86_64 virtual machine on a Fedora 14 x86_64 server but used a physical disk (/dev/sdb = /dev/vda) so I could get the new server going almost completely in virtual mode and then when it was ready to go, reboot the machine on the new drive. This process went extremely well (thanks to all the Fedora developers!) but there were a few glitches left to sort out - one of which was the screen resolution for both the console and in X. It seems the default virtual screen is 1024x768 but I need 1280x1024(or 768). I tried adding a vga parameter to the linux line in the grub.cfg file but that only temporarily changed the resolution during bootup. xorg.conf doesn't get used much anymore - do I need to create it for this case? Is there some way to tell Fedora to rediscover the maximum screen resolution somehow? Thanks, Phil. Hey Phil, I'm assuming that you are using a graphical desktop. Can you adjust the resolution with System/Preferences/Display? I know, it sounds like a dumb suggestion, but sometimes it's the simple things that bite you. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registerd Linux user No #267004 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org