Re: I want Fedora in my future, but is it possible?
On 03/21/2013 04:51 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: and this is the real problem: you lose the exclusive access to your data you have to believe they are secure, you have to believe they are backuped and if the hopefully existing backups are needed from your service provider you have to pray that their disaster-recovery plan is working in the real life and not only on the paper if i have important and sensitve data they are not for the cloud if i have non-important data i delete them regulary instead waste space no, i do not own a credit card at own because it is a U.S: syndrome to think someone can not live without and i know some online-clearing solutions for payment with them - some are HORRIBLE and that is why we are very careful which we implement for our customers These are good points. The US is definitely built around credit/debit cards; I've tried going cash-only and you have to use a lot more effort to make it work compared to everybody else. :) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: I want Fedora in my future, but is it possible?
On 03/21/2013 04:26 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: and how does SSL help you in the case of intrusion at the cloud-provider? hint: it does NOT SSL/TSL = TRANSPORT layer security as long you are only store ENCRYPTED data in the could while only on your local machine is the private key you are safe but this will not work with cloud based services because they can not do much with encrypted data and so if you are feel scure because SSL you are naive and the target of the cloud-hype Disclaimer: I am not much of a fan of "the cloud" or SaaS at all. I assumed from the OP's use of "sniffing" that what he was thinking of specifically was a man-in-the-middle attack, the threat of which can be minimized with, as you say, TRANSPORT layer security. I was not addressing the security of the data once it's sitting on the server, which as you point out is another can of worms. I'm curious though, do you not use ATMs or the debit card checkout at the grocery store? It seems like those would necessitate a public-facing server of some kind and thus fall under the umbrella (hehe) of "the cloud". -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: I want Fedora in my future, but is it possible?
On 03/21/2013 04:05 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: Question: Clouds are insecure, are they not? Any person with the intent, and a Linux computer, has the ability to sniff passwords and other "private" information, doesn't s/he? Isn't this what made us so good before Microsoft came into the picture. Are Clouds not a "cracker's" - as opposed to hackers who do not have criminal intent - haven? Well, the idea of SSL is that you can capture all the packets you want, but you won't be able to read the information in the packets without the key to decrypt it. Or lots of supercomputers and several centuries of free time. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
