Re: systemd vs. autofs/nfs
On 16/07/28 18:52, Tom Horsley wrote: On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 18:43:09 -0400 bruce wrote: But, the whole systemd/dnf stuff... is that really useful, as opposed to the philosophy of some of the other flavors? There is no other flavor. Systemd will assimilate you. Every distro uses it now (as near as I can tell). DNF is totally separate (so far, though you never know what new piece of linux systemd will engulf). Iirc Gentoo doesn't use it, Devuan (a Debian-fork that got forked to not use systemd) doesn't use it and will never use it, there is Manjaro OpenRC and Arch OpenRC, also Obarun and Slackware and some others. Have a look here: http://systemd-free.org/ Also: if the init-system is really important to you, have a look at *BSD (PC-BSD is quite desktop-friendly). Depending on your needs it might work well for you. Niels -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: keyboard with a numeric keypad which does not work in Fedora
On 16/05/17 11:19, Chris Murphy wrote: Hi, I have a laptop with its own keyboard which lacks a keypad, and a USB keyboard with a keypad. I plug in the keyboard and the keypad doesn't work anywhere in Fedora. So... how do I make that work? I don't care for it to work in the console, I only care if it works in GNOME Calculator really. It might sound silly but does it have a NumLock-key that needs to be pressed? Niels -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Installing fc23 on Mac Desktop
On 16/05/14 12:36, jd1008 wrote: Can older (5-6 years old) mac desktop boot from non-mac optical media, such as windows, any linux distro, ...etc ??? In my case it doe snot boot from any non mac media. Is it a drive problem or a primary bootloader problem? For Windows you just use BootCamp which is a part of OS X (iirc you find it in /Applications/Utilities). For Linux you need something like rEFInd. Have a look here: http://www.howtogeek.com/187410/how-to-install-and-dual-boot-linux-on-a-mac/ Niels -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: OT - but of relevance!! Secret Open Source - Is this legal
On 16/05/03 15:08, Fernando Cassia wrote: On 5/2/16, jd1008 wrote: How does that open up Linux to more viruses? You mean that crackers will suddenly start to use exploiting bugs in Linux-software to break into windows-boxes because a tiny amount of users will install this (after all only command line software runs with the Linux-integration)?You mean that crackers will suddenly start to use exploiting bugs in Linux-software to break into windows-boxes because a tiny amount of users will install this (after all only command line software runs with the Linux-integration)? -- If linux is the guest on windows, there is no guarantee that the virus will not be able to infect the machine emulator. and whatever is running on top of emulator. Afaik it doesn't run in an emulator but more like wine. But I still do not get why that would expose Linux itself to a greater thread? That's still a Windows-machine getting infected. You mean like a virus, worm whatever would be injected into the binaries and then break into Linux-systems and infect them…like in the movies? oO So will Fedora be removing WINE too? Because that allows win32 code to run on Linux... *sarcasm* Hm wine…I wonder what ransomware executed with wine would do… Niels -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: OT - but of relevance!! Secret Open Source - Is this legal
On 16/05/01 18:33, jd1008 wrote: On 05/01/2016 04:04 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 23/04/16 11:42, jd1008 wrote: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/04/21/microsoft_open_source_practice/ Microsoft headhunters seek Linux folk for secret open source unit This may be to do with the new feature Microsoft is implementing in Windows 10. The ability to invoke a Bash Shell from the start menu inside which you can run Ubuntu. This is the method they have developed with their partners Canonical to enable Linux to be run natively inside Windows. Iirc they started the hiring because they need them for some Azure-stuff. For Azure they have their own distro for SDN and I guess they want to start to use Linux for more stuff in their backend. Well, this pretty much opens up linux to viruses, since windows is so easily infected - and thus the windows viruses will be able to infect windows' guest as well. Already people (friends) with windows 10 are coming to me and saying their laptops have frozen. How does that open up Linux to more viruses? You mean that crackers will suddenly start to use exploiting bugs in Linux-software to break into windows-boxes because a tiny amount of users will install this (after all only command line software runs with the Linux-integration)?You mean that crackers will suddenly start to use exploiting bugs in Linux-software to break into windows-boxes because a tiny amount of users will install this (after all only command line software runs with the Linux-integration)? Niels -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: How to rip a DVD?
On 16/04/01 09:23, Thomas Cameron wrote: On 03/31/2016 11:23 PM, Niels Kobschaetzki wrote: On 16/03/31 22:02, Thomas Cameron wrote: Does anyone know a way of doing this on Fedora? My Google-fu must not be good, as I've found references to this being copy protected, but am only finding links to closed source Windows software to make copies. http://negativo17.org/handbrake/ Handbrake errors out. Sorry, thought I'd mentioned that is my usual go-to. You need to use MakeMKV from that link and then you use Handbrake for converting from I guess mpeg2/MKV to m4v. MakeMKV ripped until now everything for me incl. those Disney-DVDs which made problems with pretty much anything else. Niels -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: How to rip a DVD?
On 16/03/31 22:02, Thomas Cameron wrote: Does anyone know a way of doing this on Fedora? My Google-fu must not be good, as I've found references to this being copy protected, but am only finding links to closed source Windows software to make copies. http://negativo17.org/handbrake/ Niels -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: anyone (still) using kdm?
On 16/03/11 13:18, Joe Zeff wrote: On 03/11/2016 12:48 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: I am considering finally EOL'ing kdm in time for fedora 24, anyone still interested in keeping it alive? I would think that most people using KDE are using it. How popular is KDE under Fedora? Didn't KDE switch to SDDM or so with Plasma 5? Niels -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Protecting my network from rogue IoT devices.
On 16/02/29 12:24, Javier Perez wrote: Probably Off Topic, but maybe tangentially related to Fedora. I read with interest this forum piece about IoT devices phoning home. https://isc.sans.edu/forums/diary/IoT+The+Rise+of+the+Machines+Guest+Diary/19173/ What caught my attention is the following phrase: " My home network is hardened and any new (unknown) device connected to it receives an IP address from a specific range which has no connectivity with other hosts or the Internet but its packets are logged" I imagine it is done through the Gateway Router at home. Is there any tutorial somewhere to learn how to do this? Out of my head you would need to implement 802.1x with a radius-server and depending on the Mac a device gets into one of two VLANs and then a DHCP-server hands out an IP-address depending on the VLAN. The DHCP-server has one network-device in one VLAN and one in another VLAN, both have different subnets. And then there is an additional firewall (needs probably 3 network devices, one for each VLAN, one for WAN) that manages the traffic between the networks (firewalld, iptables, nftables). The subnet that is in the VLAN for the unknown devices redirects all traffic that should go into the internet through a proxy (squid) which logs everything. The inter-network-traffic can be logged by the firewall. At least that's what I would do with a wired network. I am not sure how you would realize that with WLANs. The only idea I would have is that there are two different WLANs. One for trusted, one for untrusted devices. The one with the untrusted devices routes internet-traffic again through a proxy. And you need a again the firewall for the inter-network-traffic. In both cases a router might be enough, but tbh I am not sure right now. I hope that gives you enough into your hand to be able to get to the right answers in google. That's completely out of my head and I never implemented the 802.1x-part in my networks. If I'd implement something like that from scratch, I would draw a network-diagram first ;) Maybe this is also possible smaller. You can probably integrate a lot of that into one server which handles all the parts given enough network-interfaces. I'd rather use CentOS than Fedora for something like that though because it is more stable. Readers on this list, please correct me if all that is BS but that's the way I'd try to implement something like what was described. Also, what program could one use on FedoraServer or FedoraWorkstation to host the log created by the router ( I imagine some sort of dd-wrt machine). You want now a log-server as well? How about an ELK-stack? But that's huge (Elastic Search, Logstash, Kibana). rsyslog is afaik able to receive remote logs as well. But I use rsyslog only to send logs out, not to receive them (that's what I use Logstash for). That might be enough. I don't know though what could create nice graphs from the logs, there you would need some DB-backend from what something like Grafana or Kibana can get data to draw graphs. Given that journalctl took over syslog duties, could I still use syslogd to receive the data from an external router or do I have to look somewhere else for that? rsyslog still can be used in conjunction with journalctl. Niels -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Can't get Japanese input working
Hi, I used Japanese input in Fedora23 before but after a reinstall because of an intermittent distribution switch where I used fcitx I get punished for cheating on Fedora. I just can't get ibus with KKC working outside of urxvt. In no GTK- or QT-app it will run. I tried in my .xinitrc, .xprofile, .profile and .bashrc (apparently the last is one is necessary for LibreOffice oO) export GTK_IM_MODULE=ibus export QT_IM_MODULE=ibus export XMODIFIERS=@im=ibus and export GTK_IM_MODULE=xim export QT_IM_MODULE=xim export XMODIFIERS=@im=ibus I grepped the .-files in my $HOME for fcitx and it doesn't seem to be present anymore. I tried i3 and Gnome. My main test-application is Chrome but I also tested it in Firefox, Libreoffice, Skype, Keepass and Kate as a QT-application. Nothing works and I can't find any messages in any log. It would be nice to have Japanese input outside of my terminal available. Any ideas? Niels -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: VLC VideoLAN
On 16/02/21 16:05, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 20 February 2016, Ntlworld sent: Unless you live in cloud cuckoo land (academia?)! You surely cannot have faiked to notice that all business people Top post - which is why most mail clients are set to top post by default - its about time mailing lists did the same!! You miss the point, that you're supposed to participate in a list in the manner that the list has told you to do so. It's in the introductory information, and the list members are telling you to do so, now. In the business world, *you* are top posting because you're conforming to *their* norm. And in my experience most businesses are using Outlook and that makes inline-quoting hard. So people started top-posting. So people top post. People who are using mailing lists, especially on linux-related topics rarely use Outlook, so they can quote inline and thus make everything more readable. Niels -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Looking for "photo" program
On 16/02/13 16:08, Tom Horsley wrote: On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 21:48:43 +0100 Niels Kobschaetzki wrote: Ever thought about a password manager? They generate the passwords for you and you just copy&paste. And later they auto fill. More secure, less to remember, less errors. Yep. I've been using keepassx for a while now. There are versions for linux/windows/android/etc. I've got things setup to rsync copies of the database onto my phone and tablet from the master copy on my desktop. I am using Keepass2 and sync with Bittorrent Sync or Syncthing automatically between my computers and my phone. I am thinking about using pass though. I used LastPass in the past which is the most comfortable way so far but I am a bit concerned about having my passwords in the "cloud". Niels -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Looking for "photo" program
On 16/02/14 07:01, Tim wrote: g: also, have a look at; https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/showhide-passwords/ While I haven't used that plugin, that *kind* of thing is a godsend. When you set a password, you really want to be sure what you're setting. It took me ages, once, to crack a typing error. There were so many combinations that could have gone wrong. The type it in twice things are no guarantee that you won't make to identical errors without noticing. Likewise, they're a sanity-saver when you're typing in one of those passwords with stupid composition rules (must have one or more capitals, alien symbols, and Egyptian hieroglyphics etc.). Geez, if you're going to make strong password rules, be more thoughtful about it. Must be at least so long, but if you type in a long phrase, we'll let you type in normally (see what you type, and not have to type in bloody leet-speak). Ever thought about a password manager? They generate the passwords for you and you just copy&paste. And later they auto fill. More secure, less to remember, less errors. Niels -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Looking for "photo" program
On 16/02/13 19:17, Timothy Murphy wrote: Morne wrote: There seems to be a Firefox extension / add on that is able to do this. See link below. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/scrapbook-x/ Thanks, I've installed that, and will see if I can use it. Let me confess my motivation: In the last month my bank have said 3 or 4 times that I have given the wrong PIN number, and has blocked my account. (I just have to ring them to unblock it, but it is annoying.) I'm 95% sure I gave the correct PIN number, but would like to verify that. Then the following add-on might help: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/unhide-passwords/ It deobfuscates passwords in password-fields. Niels -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Firefox 44 removes privacy feature.
On 16/02/05 02:34, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 04 February 2016, Tom Rivers sent: I do know of a free one that is privacy oriented and it works really well: https://duckduckgo.com/about I can't say that I find them anywhere near as good as Google. Much as it pains me to say it. I have to say that I like Google more as well in terms of search results. But I wonder if the tracking and analysing of its many many users isn't the whole reason why they are so much better. And no, I don't know of a paid search engine as well. I imagine that it is pretty expensive to run a decent one and advertisers usually outbid the potentially paying customers. And you cut into your own flesh if you remove the ads and tracking for some paying customers since your advertising could potentially shrink in negotiations with your major real customer the advertiser. Niels -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
