Re: Risc-v computer with Fedora on it?

2024-06-22 Thread Philip Rhoades via users

Geoffrey,


On 2024-06-23 14:02, Geoffrey Leach wrote:

On Sun, 23 Jun 2024 01:44:18 -
Ryan Bach via users  wrote:


I can't wait until this is real.
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It's not clear which "this" you're referring to, but, FWIW, Framework
has announced a development-level risc-v mainboard from DeepComputing.
As Fedora40 is one of their supported environments, I would expect that
it will be available there, in due course.

https://frame.work/products/deep-computing-risc-v-mainboard



Yes, I think this will replace my old ZenBook (which has always been 
used for Fedora anyway).


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Re: Risc-v computer with Fedora on it?

2024-06-22 Thread Philip Rhoades via users

Ryan,


On 2024-06-23 11:44, Ryan Bach via users wrote:

I can't wait until this is real.



Me too!

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Re: btrfs send command - why do I get these long times?

2024-06-09 Thread Philip Rhoades via users

George,


On 2024-06-09 20:36, George N. White III wrote:

On Sat, Jun 8, 2024 at 4:35 PM Philip Rhoades via users
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[...]
What I don't understand is that when creating the snapshots
originally,
the time to create them is almost zero but when using btrfs send to
the
other partition the times are _much_ longer.  I guess it makes sense

that the first send of the first snapshot is slow, but why are the
second and third sends not much better?


Creating a snapshot only maniplates meta-data to mark blocks that
should be preserved (so they can be used if you need to roll back
to a snapshot).



Ah - right.



My previous script using rsync for incremental backups of a file
system
/ dir is faster - I can check the times if anyone is interested . .


rsync should be faster: send has to use the metadata to resconstruct
the files
while rsync uses the current filesystem which is highly optimimized to
take advantage of caches and parallel operations.



Right - that all makes sense - thanks!

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btrfs send command - why do I get these long times?

2024-06-08 Thread Philip Rhoades via users

People,

For decades I have been using rsync for all my backup needs - but with 
F40 I finally made the break from extx to btrfs for my workstation which 
introduced me to the concept of btrfs subvolumes and the possibility of 
snapshots.


Since subvolumes don't provide security if the whole partition crashes, 
I have been experimenting with using btrfs "send" the created snapshots 
to another partition - and from there to separate backup drives and 
other computers.  Here I made three snapshots of / on my workstation, 
making trivial changes to /etc/hosts between each snapshot and then 
finally sending all three snapshots to the /home dir ie:


# for subvol in /z_btrfs_ss/*; do time btrfs send $subvol | btrfs 
receive /home/z_btrfs_ss/ ; done

At subvol /z_btrfs_ss/root_20240609_022356
At subvol root_20240609_022356
real14m2.764s
user0m1.405s
sys 0m51.704s

At subvol /z_btrfs_ss/root_20240609_022807
At subvol root_20240609_022807
real8m58.384s
user0m1.499s
sys 0m59.899s

At subvol /z_btrfs_ss/root_20240609_035045
At subvol root_20240609_035045
real5m53.532s
user0m1.472s
sys 1m0.015s

What I don't understand is that when creating the snapshots originally, 
the time to create them is almost zero but when using btrfs send to the 
other partition the times are _much_ longer.  I guess it makes sense 
that the first send of the first snapshot is slow, but why are the 
second and third sends not much better?


My previous script using rsync for incremental backups of a file system 
/ dir is faster - I can check the times if anyone is interested . .


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Re: Installed Rawhide with btrfs; dnf system update to v40 has errors ; re-install from Live USB without affecting a non-root subvolume?

2024-06-03 Thread Philip Rhoades via users

George,


On 2024-06-04 09:37, George N. White III wrote:

On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 4:43 PM Philip Rhoades via users
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People,

A while ago I was in a hurry to start using F40 (Sway) and installed

Rawhide from a live usb to get started.

Everything went pretty well and I had minimal problems up until
after
f40 was release.  However now, when I tried to do a:

dnf system upgrade download --releasever=40

I get a lot of errors - trying to do "dnf --erase" the problem rpms
ends
up making the problem worse.


You need to tell us what errors you encounter. Are they filesystem
problems,
package conflicts, etc.?



I think it will be too much to sort out the errors . .



So, if I try to reinstall from the current f40 live usb - can I do
that
without touching the backup subvolume? ie:

/dev/nvme0n1p3btrfs   1,951,850,496 464,659,184
1,486,438,224
24% /
/dev/nvme0n1p3btrfs   1,951,850,496 464,659,184
1,486,438,224
24% /backup


Unlike earlier filesystems, btrfs doesn't silently ignore bitrot.
Corrupt btrfs filesystems
are often a result of hardware faults.



Hmm . . not good . . this is a new card at least . .



For decades I have just been using a separate partition for /home
with
ext[2|3|4] and this was conveniently not touched if I did a custom
install to upgrade - I want to do something similar for this backup
subvolume.


I would never consider a btrfs subvolume a suitable location for a
backup.  The btrfs
snapshots provide a way to go back in time after data are lost due to
a software
glitch or command-line typo.  Using a subvolume, when the drive fails,
both the original
and backups may be lost.   If a drive is close to failure,  a linux
install often pushes
it over the edge (due to amount of activity), so I like to make sure
backups are good before
an upgrade or install.



OK - things to think about (thanks for that!) - but my immediate 
question has not been answered - is it actually possible to re-install 
from a Live-USB while preserving what is in the /backup subvolume - like 
I used to do with the ext4 /home partition or will the zubvolume get 
zapped?


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Installed Rawhide with btrfs; dnf system update to v40 has errors ; re-install from Live USB without affecting a non-root subvolume?

2024-06-03 Thread Philip Rhoades via users

People,

A while ago I was in a hurry to start using F40 (Sway) and installed 
Rawhide from a live usb to get started.


Everything went pretty well and I had minimal problems up until after 
f40 was release.  However now, when I tried to do a:


  dnf system upgrade download --releasever=40

I get a lot of errors - trying to do "dnf --erase" the problem rpms ends 
up making the problem worse.


So, if I try to reinstall from the current f40 live usb - can I do that 
without touching the backup subvolume? ie:


/dev/nvme0n1p3btrfs   1,951,850,496 464,659,184   1,486,438,224  
 24% /
/dev/nvme0n1p3btrfs   1,951,850,496 464,659,184   1,486,438,224  
 24% /backup


For decades I have just been using a separate partition for /home with 
ext[2|3|4] and this was conveniently not touched if I did a custom 
install to upgrade - I want to do something similar for this backup 
subvolume.


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Phil.
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Can Fedora REPLACE Android on Smart Phones?

2024-05-29 Thread Philip Rhoades via users

People,

I have messed around with Android ROMs in the past - mostly for fun - 
now I would like Fedora running on my old Pixel2XL, which is currently 
running the last available Lineage ROM available for it.


I have been experimenting with proot and chroot - but these things just 
create Fedora containers - has anyone installed Fedora as the host OS on 
phones other than Pine64|Pinephone|Pine64 PinePhone Pro|Pine64 Pinetab 
(1 and 2)|Purism Librem 5|Oneplus 6 ?


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Re: Uh-oh...

2024-03-30 Thread Philip Rhoades via users

Dave, Eddie,

Good to hear your stories! - see inline comments:


On 2024-03-31 10:42, Dave Ihnat wrote:

On 30 Mar at 17:46, Eddie O'Connor  wrote:

...and while I'm not a developer?...I would LOVE to BE
one!...as my son is now college bound and I don't have "babies" to 
tend

to...I work from home...and if I could learn the framework and
languages?..I would SO volunteer, I'm a "spry" 52 yr old...who's been 
in IT

since '99...


I've been a developer since I got out of college ~1976. I don't know 
how

spry I am, but I am 70 and still rockin' as my own consultant.



Beat you both! - now 72 and started using the original RH4 but moved to 
F01 straight away - but I have actually been using Linux since the 
Kernel 0.9 days . .



Actually--I was a full-time developer through around 2004, when I went 
out
on my own. Incorporated my own business as an IT Consultant. 
Specialized

in SMBs (Small/Medium Businesses), since I'd observed they get screwed
by the consulting firms.



Good work!


Since that time, I've done much less software development. Why? How 
many

times can I rewrite the same solution, in different languages, for the
same problems?  That got tiring. I'm not saying that you shouldn't go 
for

it--you *haven't* gone through my decades of development, and it's
amazingly rewarding when you get in the groove.



Yes, I used to love building kernels etc too but after a while you do 
get short of time and resort to just "getting stuff done" as quickly as 
possible . .




I guess we all have fantasy jobs though eh?


Don't just treat it as fantasy. When I went to create my own company at
51, I had a friend who griped, "You can't do that! You're too old!". 
Foo

on him. Go for what you want!



Exactly! +1


Thanks to all the devs and code maintainers who make Fedora a 
possibility

for a dweeb lile me!! You guys and gals ROCK!!



From me too! - have loved this FOSS space for a long time!


I re-wrote "cut" and "paste" and submitted them to Gnu back in the 
'80s. It

was both gratifying and amazingly painful (BTL lawyers were not best
pleased. Fortunately, I did it "by the book"--got permission from my 
BTL
consultant manager, made sure I didn't look at the original source 
code,
etc.) so I ended up clean. Open Source is the way to keep things moving 
and

surviving. If you want to get into it, DO IT!



Good work! - In the early days I helped debug the SCSI controller but 
that was about my limit of "serious" stuff . .


Kudos to all involved with this discovery and fix!

Regards,

Phil.



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Is this possible?: Convert /dev/sdd[1-5] Ext4 => /dev/sdd [btrfs - whole disk] - without losing data in sdd5 (old /home)

2023-12-19 Thread Philip Rhoades via users

People,

I have been using Fedora since Core 1 and still have the old HDs and I 
have kept using ext[234] FSs just for simplicity / consistency up to the 
current time (F39) - but now I want to experiment with btrfs and I was 
thinking I could go through the exercise of converting an old SATA boot 
drive where I am still using /dev/sdd5 (the old /home partition) as one 
of a few backup partitions / drives for current live data from my 
workstation and some small servers.


At first I was thinking I could delete ext4 parts 1-4, replace them with 
a new btrfs partition and then maybe somehow use btrfs-convert to 
integrate the remaining ext4 part 5 into the new part 1? . . but what I 
really want to do is create a new btrfs using the _whole_ of the disk - 
but somehow avoid having to spend a LONG time copying back about 4TB (to 
the 8TB drive) - the only way I could see that possibility working is to 
somehow do a recovery on the rest of the disk after the newly-created 
btrfs only takes up part of the beginning of the disk but leaves the old 
ext4 dirs and files recoverable somehow from near the beginning of the 
disk to just past halfway on the disk . .


This is just an interesting idea for experimenting with - it is not the 
end of the world if it is not possible or if it might be possible but 
difficult and I crash the drive in the experiment . .


Any feedback / comments from HD gurus appreciated!

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Re: Creating a ScreenShot HotKey Script

2023-09-27 Thread Philip Rhoades via users

Jonathan,


On 2023-09-17 04:44, Jonathan Billings wrote:

On Sep 16, 2023, at 10:28, stan via users
 wrote:






On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 22:12:02 +1000
Philip Rhoades via users  wrote:


Is this possible?  Should I be trying to do this from Sway?


I don't have an answer for you, but isn't sway a microsoft product?
Maybe it would be better to ask on a microsoft forum?


Sway is a tiling window manager/compositor for Wayland.
https://swaywm.org/

Not sure what you’re talking about, it certainly isn’t a Microsoft
product.  Sway is a Wayland-based compositor that is a replacement for
i3 (a tiling WM for X11).

For what it’s worth, it does appear that there is an automation tool
for wlroot-based compositors (such as sway): wrlctl (
https://git.sr.ht/~brocellous/wlrctl ). It’s not packaged for fedora
yet, though.



Hmm . . interesting - I usually try to stick to RPMs but will build / 
compile stuff if I have to . . I will have a look at wrlctl .


Thanks!

Phil.



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Re: Creating a ScreenShot HotKey Script

2023-09-27 Thread Philip Rhoades via users

wwp,


On 2023-09-17 07:19, wwp wrote:

Hello Philip,


On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 22:12:02 +1000 Philip Rhoades via users
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I want to scroll through doc pages in a script loop doing a screenshot 
for each page eg the procedure would be:


1. Display the first page of the doc you want to screenshot.

2. Hit CTRL-PrtScrn (say) to start the script loop.

The script does a screenshot of the current screen.
The Right Arrow or PageDn key is sent from the script to advance 
the doc to the next page.

The script continues to loop . .

3. The script is stopped by CTRL-C (say).

Is this possible?  Should I be trying to do this from Sway?


What file format is your document?



A proprietary one which isn't easily convertible.



Couldn't you "just" export pages to
another (image) format?



No.



IOW, why do you want to make *screenshots*?



To OCR them to text to create multi-page PDFs.

Thanks,

Phil.



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Re: startx equivalent for Wayland

2023-09-26 Thread Philip Rhoades via users

George,


On 2023-09-26 23:45, George N. White III wrote:

On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 1:13 AM Dave Close  wrote:


I detest a graphical login and insist on running in multi-user mode
(old runlevel 3). To start an X11 session after login, I can use the
startx command. But I haven't found an equivalent command to start a
Wayland session.

An old post on this list suggests using weston-launch. But dnf says
there is no package that includes such a command and I can't find
any
other weston command that looks likely. Surely I can't be the only
one
wanting to start from a command line?

(The target is a system running 64-bit F38 fully updated.)


Yesterday I tried started a session using:

if [[ -z $DISPLAY && $XDG_SESSION_TYPE == tty ]]; then
  MOZ_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1 QT_QPA_PLATFORM=wayland
XDG_SESSION_TYPE=wayland exec dbus-run-session gnome-session
fi

This has been working since yesterday, but today with bright sun I
discovered that the brightness setting isn't
available.  Fortunately this was a problem with some Fedora update and
I have a script that uses ddcutil to
adjust brightness, but nw wonder what other differences may turn up.



I am a bit confused about all this discussion - I routinely boot to 
multi-user mode and if I need a graphical environment I run this 
command:


  sway

- doesn't that do what you want to do?

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Creating a ScreenShot HotKey Script

2023-09-16 Thread Philip Rhoades via users

People,

I want to scroll through doc pages in a script loop doing a screenshot 
for each page eg the procedure would be:


1. Display the first page of the doc you want to screenshot.

2. Hit CTRL-PrtScrn (say) to start the script loop.

   The script does a screenshot of the current screen.
   The Right Arrow or PageDn key is sent from the script to advance the 
doc to the next page.

   The script continues to loop . .

3. The script is stopped by CTRL-C (say).

Is this possible?  Should I be trying to do this from Sway?

Thanks,

Phil.

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Re: Very simple iOS file uploads (JPGs) to a Fedora server? - HTTPS?

2023-08-25 Thread Philip Rhoades via users

People,


On 2023-08-25 07:01, Philip Rhoades via users wrote:

People,

I want remote siblings to be able to upload large numbers of photos
from their iPhones (using my existing ZeroTier network as the
preferred connection mechanism) to my Fedora server or Fedora
workstation - so I can do a lot of processing on them.  I have been
looking around for days for an "idiot proof" iPhone app or other
mechanism but everything I have found so far requires the iOS
uploaders to be technically clued-up to some extent and / or CLIs etc.

Is there a Docker or Podman image around that packages up a simple
upload / cloud mechanism? - maybe via HTTPS? - I am less enthusiastic
about SFTP . .



I have since found this:

  https://crates.io/crates/miniserve

which works quite nicely with:

  Android => F38

but I will check it out with the siblings who have iPhones now . .

P.

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Re: Very simple iOS file uploads (JPGs) to a Fedora server? - HTTPS?

2023-08-24 Thread Philip Rhoades via users

Roger,


On 2023-08-25 09:18, Roger Heflin wrote:

I have piwigo installed on my webserver.  It allows uploads.  I don't
know how well it interacts with Iphones.

It is a full photo management server (uploading and albums).



Ah, OK, I will have a look at that . .

Thanks!

P.



On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 4:06 PM Tim Evans  wrote:


On 8/24/23 17:01, Philip Rhoades via users wrote:
> People,
>
> I want remote siblings to be able to upload large numbers of photos from
> their iPhones (using my existing ZeroTier network as the preferred
> connection mechanism) to my Fedora server or Fedora workstation - so I
> can do a lot of processing on them.  I have been looking around for days
> for an "idiot proof" iPhone app or other mechanism but everything I have
> found so far requires the iOS uploaders to be technically clued-up to
> some extent and / or CLIs etc.
>
> Is there a Docker or Podman image around that packages up a simple
> upload / cloud mechanism? - maybe via HTTPS? - I am less enthusiastic
> about SFTP . .

Have used snapdrop.net for this in the past, but it seems to be down 
at

the moment.
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Re: Very simple iOS file uploads (JPGs) to a Fedora server? - HTTPS?

2023-08-24 Thread Philip Rhoades via users

Tim,


On 2023-08-25 07:05, Tim Evans wrote:

On 8/24/23 17:01, Philip Rhoades via users wrote:

People,

I want remote siblings to be able to upload large numbers of photos 
from their iPhones (using my existing ZeroTier network as the 
preferred connection mechanism) to my Fedora server or Fedora 
workstation - so I can do a lot of processing on them.  I have been 
looking around for days for an "idiot proof" iPhone app or other 
mechanism but everything I have found so far requires the iOS 
uploaders to be technically clued-up to some extent and / or CLIs etc.


Is there a Docker or Podman image around that packages up a simple 
upload / cloud mechanism? - maybe via HTTPS? - I am less enthusiastic 
about SFTP . .


Have used snapdrop.net for this in the past, but it seems to be down
at the moment.



I did try that but it didn't recognise the ZT network . .

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Very simple iOS file uploads (JPGs) to a Fedora server? - HTTPS?

2023-08-24 Thread Philip Rhoades via users

People,

I want remote siblings to be able to upload large numbers of photos from 
their iPhones (using my existing ZeroTier network as the preferred 
connection mechanism) to my Fedora server or Fedora workstation - so I 
can do a lot of processing on them.  I have been looking around for days 
for an "idiot proof" iPhone app or other mechanism but everything I have 
found so far requires the iOS uploaders to be technically clued-up to 
some extent and / or CLIs etc.


Is there a Docker or Podman image around that packages up a simple 
upload / cloud mechanism? - maybe via HTTPS? - I am less enthusiastic 
about SFTP . .


Thanks,

P.
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Re: Anyone got RoundCubeMail installed happily in a host / VM / Podman Container?

2023-07-20 Thread Philip Rhoades via users

suomi,


On 2023-07-21 14:30, fedora wrote:

Hi Phil
I don't think that this is of any help for you, but
here RoundCubeMail 1.5.2 runs flawlessly on Oracle Linux Server
release 8.8, kernel 5.4.17-2136.321.4.el8uek.x86_64.with mysql/mariadb
10.3.35

As far as I remember, the installation was simple (at least painless):
adjust the servers, the Starttls, the directories, the mysql-access
and off you go.



I have had an old version installed from a tar.gz and running for a long 
time through various versions of Fedora but have not had success with 
the RPM so far - I will check it out again soon.




Good luck



Thanks!

Phil.



On 20/07/2023 16.18, phr via users wrote:

People,

I have been battling with this for a while - I have had an old version 
of
RCM working on old Fedoras and occasionally being updated but I 
thought

I would start with a clean install of F38 and the RCM RPM . . I can
sometimes get to the /roundcubemail/installer screen but can never get
the mains screen to display - and none of the logs seem to explain why 
.

. I have used PostgreSQL historically but even the Sqlite attempts
didn't work either . .

Any help appreciated . .

Thanks.

Phil.
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Re: Installed Fedora 38 (sway) / grub2 on a new HD - boots OK but does not have a menuentry item in grub.cfg ?

2023-04-22 Thread Philip Rhoades via users

Francis,


On 2023-04-22 17:18, francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote:

Hi.

On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 16:37:53 +1000 Philip Rhoades via users wrote:

- but why is there is not a line like this in /boot/grub2/grub.conf 
for

Fedora 38 Sway?


I can see that the appropriate other Sway files are in the /boot tree 
so
I am guessing that grub2 somehow knows the proper, default boot image 
-

even though the default does not have a menuentry in grub.cfg?


I bet it's related to BootLoaderSpec. If you look at the

  ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###

section of grub.cfg you will see:

  # The blscfg command parses the BootLoaderSpec files stored in
  # /boot/loader/entries and populates the boot menu. Please refer to 
the Boot

  # Loader Specification documentation for the files format:
  # https://systemd.io/BOOT_LOADER_SPECIFICATION/.



Ah - that sounds promising! - I will have a look at that - I would like 
a better understanding of how grub2 operates before I start messing 
around with adding entries to grub.cfg manually . .


Thanks!

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Installed Fedora 38 (sway) / grub2 on a new HD - boots OK but does not have a menuentry item in grub.cfg ?

2023-04-21 Thread Philip Rhoades via users

People,

My Fedora WS has 4 drive bays and I access old boot and other HDs in 
bays 2-4.  I just did a clean install of Fedora Sway to /dev/sda - 
everything is fine and the system boots OK but I am confused:


- cat /etc/os-release

NAME="Fedora Linux"
VERSION="38 (Sway)"
.
PRETTY_NAME="Fedora Linux 38 (Sway)"
ANSI_COLOR="0;38;2;60;110;180"
.
VARIANT="Sway"
VARIANT_ID=sway

- The install picked up old Fedora boot setups which show up in 
/boot/grub2/grub.conf like this:


menuentry 'Fedora Linux 37 (KDE Plasma) (on /dev/sde3)' --class 
gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 
'osprober-gnulinux-/boot/vmlinuz-6.0.7-301.fc37.x86_64--f6f43412-e6ed-4dff-808b-fe013691c3b6' 
{


- but why is there is not a line like this in /boot/grub2/grub.conf for 
Fedora 38 Sway?


I can see that the appropriate other Sway files are in the /boot tree so 
I am guessing that grub2 somehow knows the proper, default boot image - 
even though the default does not have a menuentry in grub.cfg?


A pointer to a link for info would be great . .

Thanks!

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Re: grub-customizer only show OSs on secondary HDs

2023-04-20 Thread Philip Rhoades via users

stan,


On 2023-04-21 01:39, stan wrote:

On Thu, 20 Apr 2023 11:37:39 +1000
Philip Rhoades via users  wrote:


I thought grub-customizer might help me do something but I have
loaded it onto two computers now (F37 KDE WS) and a server (F34 XFCE)
and after I run the program (it takes minutes to get info), the
listing of OSs only shows info for the secondary HDs on each computer
- instead of also the active OS booted from /dev/sda - why is this?


I installed it on F37, and ran it, and got the same behavior as you
did, though it was much faster here, around a minute. I can't say for
sure, since I wasn't aware of grub-customizer until you mentioned it,
but I find an option to boot a selected OS from the list in the General
Settings.  I think the assumption is that you won't want to (re)boot
the system you are already running from grub-customizer, since there
are options to do that from the running system itself.



Yes, I guess that could be correct - thanks for confirming!

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grub-customizer only show OSs on secondary HDs

2023-04-19 Thread Philip Rhoades via users

People,

I thought grub-customizer might help me do something but I have loaded 
it onto two computers now (F37 KDE WS) and a server (F34 XFCE) and after 
I run the program (it takes minutes to get info), the listing of OSs 
only shows info for the secondary HDs on each computer - instead of also 
the active OS booted from /dev/sda - why is this?


Thanks,

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Is there some way of getting interactive access to a Fedora boot menu to a computer on the same LAN?

2023-04-19 Thread Philip Rhoades via users

People,

I am guessing this is not possible since the network is not even running 
yet . . could a mini-network of some kind be possible for the menu?


My next-best alternative is to just a let a normal boot take place, get 
network access, log in and change the default boot order and reboot . .


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Tenacity

2023-02-07 Thread Philip Rhoades via users

People,

Has there been any discussion about getting a Tenacity RPM going for 
Fedora? - I would prefer that to having to use the AppImage version . .


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Re: 1 line null webserver

2022-12-04 Thread Philip Rhoades via users

Mike,

  ruby -run -e httpd . -p 5000

P.


On 2022-12-04 21:01, Barry wrote:
On 3 Dec 2022, at 21:40, Mike Wright  
wrote:


Hi all,

I'm using dnsmasq to create an ad/media blocker.  Whenever it receives 
a request for any listed domain I want to return a specific IP that 
points to a dummy webserver.  That part works.


It's the dummy webserver that has me stumped.  I'd like it to return 0 
bytes, status 200 for every connection to port 80.


nc seems like a good candidate but I can't get it right.

Anybody have a nc one-liner or other alternative that would accomplish 
this?


I Use apache httpd, its very low over head to serve static content.
From memory I recall it used approx. 100k bytes of memory.

Barry


Thanks for any ideas,
Mike Wright
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Trying to install from ISO via grub.cfg - almost there?

2022-08-26 Thread Philip Rhoades via users

People,

My old Zenbook has problems running LiveUSBs so I generally use dnf 
updates but the last update to F36 has caused problems with audio that I 
can't resolve so I want to do a clean install and have been trying to do 
this via running the iso from a grub2 config by adding stuff to 
40_custom:


#!/usr/bin/sh
exec tail -n +3 $0
# This file provides an easy way to add custom menu entries.  Simply 
type the
# menu entries you want to add after this comment.  Be careful not to 
change

# the 'exec tail' line above.

menuentry "Fedora 36" --class fedora --class gnu-linux --class gnu 
--class os {

rmmod tpm
set iso_label="Fedora-36"
set iso_file="Fedora-KDE-Live-x86_64-36-1.5.iso"
loopback loop (hd0,gpt5)/$iso_file  # sda5 is my home partition 
that I preserve between updates

set root=(loop)
linux  /images/pxeboot/vmlinuz iso-scan/filename=$iso_file 
root=live:CDLABEL=$iso_label ro rd.live.image

initrd /images/pxeboot/initrd.img
}

This actually boots but eventually grinds to a halt with:

/run/initramfs/isoscan: unknown file system type 'swap'
dmesg may have more info . .
EXT4-fs (sda5) mounted file system with ordered data mode. Quota mode: 
none.

loop0: detected capacity change from 0 to 4325276

Then lots of:

dracut-initqueue[627]: Warning:  . . .
"
Emergency mode . .

And a suggestion to save and look at:

  /run/initramfs/rdsosreport.txt

Can anyone suggest what the problem is and how to resolve it?

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Re: Interrogating BIOS from CLI? - dmidecode doesn't have the info

2022-08-21 Thread Philip Rhoades via users

ToddAndMargo,


On 2022-08-22 16:11, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

On 8/21/22 21:29, Tim via users wrote:

On Mon, 2022-08-22 at 00:00 +1000, Philip Rhoades via users wrote:
I have a fairly recent ASUS ROG motherboard that I want to 
interrogate
from the CLI - specifically to see which SATA drives are 
hot-swappable

but dmidecode does not supply that information - is there some way of
getting the info without rebooting into the BIOS setup screen?  I am
running F36.


Tangential approach - download the manual for the board.


That won't help.  They could be set either way.



Correct.



I think he is stuck with booting into BIOS



It does look like it . . a bit sad . . would people on the grub list be 
able to tell me how hard it would be to code? - anyone else worth 
asking?  I am guessing that ASUS would not have a Linux tool . .


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Re: Interrogating BIOS from CLI? - dmidecode doesn't have the info

2022-08-21 Thread Philip Rhoades via users

Roger,


On 2022-08-22 06:40, Roger Heflin wrote:
Generally there is no standard for how anything is encoded/decoded in 
the bios.



Ah . .



Each vendor does it a slightly different way even on different bios
versions.  You would need a vendor tool that works for the specific
motherboard.



Right.



And the bios will have no way to know what is hot-swappable as that is
an external case feature/add-on enclosure.



Not sure what you mean - I can set "Hot Swappable" in the BIOS.



If you are asking which sata ports are hot swappable, my experience
has been, pretty much all of them can be hot swapped with the right
external enclosure.



Again - I have to set each drive for that function - I have never tried 
swapping when I hadn't set that function . . I do have have the 
removable enclosures for the drives I want to be able to insert / 
remove.


Thanks,

Phil.



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People,

I have a fairly recent ASUS ROG motherboard that I want to interrogate
from the CLI - specifically to see which SATA drives are hot-swappable
but dmidecode does not supply that information - is there some way of
getting the info without rebooting into the BIOS setup screen?  I am
running F36.

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Interrogating BIOS from CLI? - dmidecode doesn't have the info

2022-08-21 Thread Philip Rhoades via users

People,

I have a fairly recent ASUS ROG motherboard that I want to interrogate 
from the CLI - specifically to see which SATA drives are hot-swappable 
but dmidecode does not supply that information - is there some way of 
getting the info without rebooting into the BIOS setup screen?  I am 
running F36.


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Re: FYI: My book on Podman, preview is available.

2022-05-04 Thread Philip Rhoades via users

Daniel,


On 2022-05-04 21:00, Daniel Walsh wrote:

I have written a book on Podman which is coming out this summer.
Podman in Action for Manning Publishing.

Manning has an early access program where you can read the first few
chapters (4) and is available now.

https://www.manning.com/books/podman-in-action.



Thanks! - I will read the free chapters and see how I go . . I obviously 
prefer Podman to Docker but I am an ordinary user and not a guru so it 
should be interesting . .


Phil.



Manning also sent me a discount code for access, mlwalsh.

Dan Walsh
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Re: Script for making a KVM VM from a kickstart

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On 2022-01-16 10:01, Chris Adams wrote:

I have been building up a script to quickly and easily make CentOS/RHEL
and Fedora VMs from kickstart files for a long time, and thought I'd 
see

if anyone else was interested.  It's especially useful IMHO if you are
working on building kickstarts, because you can fairly rapidly iterate
and test.

I've got it built as an RPM, so if others think this is useful, I might
submit it to Fedora and EPEL.

Let me know what you think!

https://github.com/cmadamsgit/ks-install



Thanks! - will check it out . .

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Re: I have defeated Wayland!

2022-01-04 Thread Philip Rhoades via users

Tom,


On 2022-01-04 23:58, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Tue, 04 Jan 2022 21:37:39 +1100
Philip Rhoades via users wrote:


Would what you have done fix my ZenBook issue?


Don't see how since the mousepad is built in to the hardware.
My gadget works by sitting between the mouse and the computer,
but with a laptop or tablet there is no place for a "between".



Ah . . I misunderstood . .

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Re: I have defeated Wayland!

2022-01-04 Thread Philip Rhoades via users

Grumpey,


On 2022-01-04 23:24, Grumpey wrote:

Hmm - I switched to Wayland and Sway a little while ago on both the
desktop and the ZenBook - I love the environment on the desktop but
since I only occasionally use the ZenBook, I have just been putting
up
with the lack of double-tapping etc on the mousepad.


Tap to click should be configurable.

https://github.com/swaywm/sway/wiki#libinput-config-options

Or am I missing something?



I will check that out . .

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Re: I have defeated Wayland!

2022-01-04 Thread Philip Rhoades via users

Tom,


On 2022-01-04 06:43, Tom Horsley wrote:

https://tomhorsley.com/hardware/mouse-tailor/mouse-tailor.html

My latest silly project adds all the mouse settings to microcode
outside of the operating system so my trackball can be useful
when I'm forced to use Wayland (which seems to have utterly discarded
any useful mouse settings once available under X11).



Hmm - I switched to Wayland and Sway a little while ago on both the 
desktop and the ZenBook - I love the environment on the desktop but 
since I only occasionally use the ZenBook, I have just been putting up 
with the lack of double-tapping etc on the mousepad.  I used to 
routinely install this after an update:


  xorg-x11-drv-synaptics-legacy-1.9.1-3.fc30.x86_64.rpm

Would what you have done fix my ZenBook issue?

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Re: I need a temporary imap client

2021-12-15 Thread Philip Rhoades via users

ToddAndMargo,


On 2021-12-16 11:39, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

Hi All,

Fedora 35
thunderbird-91.3.0-1.fc35.x86_64

Every time I want to see new eMail on my zoho
accounts (3), I need to restart Thunderbird.
It is a pain in the neck.  My gMail account
are unaffected.

This is the bug:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1745668

Anyone have a recommendation for an alternate
imap client whilst I wait for the bug to be fixed?



If you want to go old school . . mutt . .

However, I stopped using TB a long time ago in favour of RoundCubeMail . 
. but I _really_ wanted to use Maildirs and get away from one big file 
for each contact . .


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Re: Message threading on this list

2021-11-23 Thread Philip Rhoades via users

John,


On 2021-11-24 09:06, John Pilkington wrote:

I'm used to reading messages in order of time of arrival.  Threaded
display in Thunderbird, or the presentation of the archive by
Hyperkitty, doesn't do this; the current thread about NVIDIA drivers
is utterly disjointed in both, with recent posts buried at random
partway up the display.  Is there a fix?



I haven't looked at it but if the threading is broken it is because 
people are replying outside of the thread - creating new threads - it is 
annoying but there is not a lot you can do about it . .


I use a RoundCubeMaill client and when your problem is TOO painful, I do 
switch to time sorted individual mails but that is frequently not a 
great solution either . .


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Jerky scrolling in Chrome, FF, Brave, VimB

2021-10-28 Thread Philip Rhoades via users

People,

I have had a reasonably powerful PC for the last few Fedora versions:

  i7-7700K CPU @ 4.20GHz 8 core
  32GB RAM
  40GB Swap
  50% free on 4TB Seagate drive

and even though the PC seems unloaded according to Glances eg:

  < 40% CPU loading
  < 80 RAM used
  ~ 1% Swap used
  - Disk IO minimal

I still have problems using the up / down cursor keys, PgUp / PgDn keys, 
mouse wheel for moving around on web pages - there is usually a second 
or more delay and then a jump . .


Admittedly I do tend to load up the browsers with multiple windows and 
tabs but if the system still seems unloaded, why is there the jerkiness?


Prior versions of Fedora were XFCE4, current F34 is Wayland and Sway but 
the problem has been there over multiple versions . .


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Re: Debugging USB device issues

2021-10-27 Thread Philip Rhoades via users

Samuel,


On 2021-10-27 19:31, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 2021-10-26 10:10, Philip Rhoades via users wrote:
I am getting nothing recorded in /var/log/messages when I plug in the 
GoPro and push its power button (plugging in any other USB device is 
working of course) so maybe it is the USB port on the camera that is 
the problem? - is there any way to debug that from the Fedora 
workstation?


After seeing Tim's message, I realized what you wrote.  How do you
have /var/log/messages?  Run "sudo journalctl -fa" in a terminal
before plugging in the cable and see if anything shows up.



Interesting - at first I got no response for a couple of the permuations 
I had tried before - so I tried a new permutation of USB port and two 
cables - an extension cable connected to a std USB cable with a micro 
plug - which worked!  Now I am confused about why ALL the other 
permutations worked for ALL the other devices - besides the camera . . 
weird - maybe it is an intermittent cable or camera problem? - hmm . . 
more testing required . . at least I know now that the connection is not 
100% failed . .


Thanks for responding - I appreciate it!

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Re: Debugging USB device issues

2021-10-27 Thread Philip Rhoades via users

Tim,


On 2021-10-27 19:01, Tim via users wrote:

On Wed, 2021-10-27 at 04:10 +1100, Philip Rhoades via users wrote:

I am getting nothing recorded in /var/log/messages when I plug in
the GoPro and push its power button (plugging in any other USB device
is working of course) so maybe it is the USB port on the camera that
is the problem? - is there any way to debug that from the Fedora
workstation?


Before you plug it in, open a command line and run:  dmesg

Open another command line window, plug it in, and run dmesg in the
second window.

Now you can compare the messages at the end of each dump against each
other.



It is simpler to just:  tail -f /var/log/messages




If it recognised the hardware, you should get some information about
it.  If not, a simple first test is to try another USB lead.  You can
have broken data lines, and still have functioning power lines, within
the cable, allowing it to charge.



Right - see next reply to Samuel's post . .

Thanks,

Phil.



By way of example, when I plug in a webcam, it shows all this gubbins:

[3887829.895943] usb 1-12: new high-speed USB device number 51 using 
xhci_hcd

[3887830.123901] usb 1-12: New USB device found, idVendor=0c45,
idProduct=6366, bcdDevice= 1.00
[3887830.123928] usb 1-12: New USB device strings: Mfr=2, Product=1,
SerialNumber=3
[3887830.123936] usb 1-12: Product: CM200
[3887830.123943] usb 1-12: Manufacturer: Sonix Technology Co., Ltd.
[3887830.123949] usb 1-12: SerialNumber: SN0001
[3887830.174819] usb 1-12: 3:1: cannot get freq at ep 0x84
[3887830.395965] Linux video capture interface: v2.00
[3887830.437188] uvcvideo: Found UVC 1.00 device CM200 (0c45:6366)
[3887830.462969] input: CM200 as
/devices/pci:00/:00:14.0/usb1/1-12/1-12:1.0/input/input51
[3887830.463068] usbcore: registered new interface driver uvcvideo
[3887830.463070] USB Video Class driver (1.1.1)
[3887830.921714] usb 1-12: 3:1: cannot get freq at ep 0x84
[3887830.993514] usb 1-12: 3:1: cannot get freq at ep 0x84
[3892705.253593] snd_hda_intel :00:1f.3: Unstable LPIB (352800 >=
176400); disabling LPIB delay counting

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Re: Debugging USB device issues

2021-10-26 Thread Philip Rhoades via users

Samuel,


On 2021-10-27 11:22, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 2021-10-26 10:10, Philip Rhoades via users wrote:
I didn't get a response to my previous Q re an apparent problem with 
getting gphoto2 to work with my GoPro Hero 4 Session camera - I hadn't 
used the camera for a while and I thought maybe the Fedora upgrades 
since then were the cause of the problem - but maybe the problem is 
actually with the USB port on the camera? (gphoto2 used to work).  The 
camera actually charges OK through the port and I can record videos 
and then move them to Fedora by moving the SC card to a card reader, 
mounting the dir and copying video files to the HD so the camera 
itself and device charging seems to be OK.


I am getting nothing recorded in /var/log/messages when I plug in the 
GoPro and push its power button (plugging in any other USB device is 
working of course) so maybe it is the USB port on the camera that is 
the problem? - is there any way to debug that from the Fedora 
workstation?


If there is no message and another USB device shows up if you plug it
in, then the problem is either with the camera or the cable.



And therefore there is no to debug from the computer side . . OK . .

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Debugging USB device issues

2021-10-26 Thread Philip Rhoades via users

People,

I didn't get a response to my previous Q re an apparent problem with 
getting gphoto2 to work with my GoPro Hero 4 Session camera - I hadn't 
used the camera for a while and I thought maybe the Fedora upgrades 
since then were the cause of the problem - but maybe the problem is 
actually with the USB port on the camera? (gphoto2 used to work).  The 
camera actually charges OK through the port and I can record videos and 
then move them to Fedora by moving the SC card to a card reader, 
mounting the dir and copying video files to the HD so the camera itself 
and device charging seems to be OK.


I am getting nothing recorded in /var/log/messages when I plug in the 
GoPro and push its power button (plugging in any other USB device is 
working of course) so maybe it is the USB port on the camera that is the 
problem? - is there any way to debug that from the Fedora workstation?


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F33 => F34 - gphoto2 not working?

2021-10-25 Thread Philip Rhoades via users

People,

Upgrading from:

F33 / Xorg / XFCE

to:

F34 / Wayland / Sway

seems to have caused gphoto2 to stop working (it does not discover any 
device plugged into a USB port) when I plug in my GoPro Black 4 now.  I 
can't see why Wayland and Sway would make a difference - what else could 
it be?  I used to be able to plug the camera in, see the red light for 
charging, wait until it was fully charged and the light went out and 
then push the button to get the USB connection.


I am not 100% sure but the little LCD screen seems to be displaying 
something different now - a power plug icon plus the USB icon - I seem 
to remember it was different before but Googling didn't help . .


Any suggestions for debugging would be appreciated!

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Re: Does Chrome, FireFox, Brave etc use the PipeWire server now? - I get mic problems

2021-09-22 Thread Philip Rhoades via users

stan,


On 2021-09-22 23:01, stan wrote:

On Tue, 21 Sep 2021 23:41:04 +1000
Philip Rhoades via users  wrote:


Some told me they thought that browsers talked directly to the
soundcard?


Not for a long, long time.  If you have pulseaudio or pipewire
installed, and are using them as default, then no matter what the
browser thinks, it is talking to pulseaudio or pipewire.



Right.



With upgrading from F33 (X/XFCE4/ALSA) to F34 (Wayland/Sway/PipeWire)
I have been thrashing the system a bit to see how it goes and found
trying to serially record stuff online from three different browsers
and also recording stuff with a number of apps causes me to lose
access to the default mic for ALL inputs . .


This sounds like a bug.  You could look at the list here,
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pipewire/pipewire/-/issues
to see if it is listed.  Otherwise, you could open a new issue.



OK, I will check that out.



Since I don't have any trouble PLAYING from as many sources as I want
to but ONLY recording, I have turned OFF access to the mic for all
the browsers (C, FF, B) and will try to only use stand-alone apps
that need the mic (using default) ie audacity, jisti, obs, zoom,
arecord etc - I will see how that approach goes for a while.


Because play is working everywhere, record should work everywhere.



Why is that so? - one is SNOOP and one is DMIX controlled isn't it?



So,
a bug or possibly a mic misconfiguration error.



Right but how could it be a misconfiguration error if I am just using 
the "default" Mic all the time?




Also, because of problems in the early days with PulseAudio, I got
into the habit of routinely uninstalling it and just using ALSA plus
my .asoundrc file - now I thought PW was going to completely replace
PA but I see there are still a number of RPMs installed:


I think it is hybrid, with pipewire replacing more the higher logic,
and still using the basic plumbing of pulseaudio.



Ah, OK.



Any info on how this stuff is supposed to work / hang together would
be appreciated! - a diagram somewhere would be great!


I'm not aware of anything like that.  Pipewire is still under very
active development, so that is probably taking priority until the fires
are out.



I can believe it . .



At the bottom of this page, there are some links to more information
about pipewire.  Might or might not help you.



Nothing here?

Thanks for that - I appreciate the feedback!

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Does Chrome, FireFox, Brave etc use the PipeWire server now? - I get mic problems

2021-09-21 Thread Philip Rhoades via users

People,

Some told me they thought that browsers talked directly to the 
soundcard?


With upgrading from F33 (X/XFCE4/ALSA) to F34 (Wayland/Sway/PipeWire) I 
have been thrashing the system a bit to see how it goes and found trying 
to serially record stuff online from three different browsers and also 
recording stuff with a number of apps causes me to lose access to the 
default mic for ALL inputs . .


Since I don't have any trouble PLAYING from as many sources as I want to 
but ONLY recording, I have turned OFF access to the mic for all the 
browsers (C, FF, B) and will try to only use stand-alone apps that need 
the mic (using default) ie audacity, jisti, obs, zoom, arecord etc - I 
will see how that approach goes for a while.


Also, because of problems in the early days with PulseAudio, I got into 
the habit of routinely uninstalling it and just using ALSA plus my 
.asoundrc file - now I thought PW was going to completely replace PA but 
I see there are still a number of RPMs installed:


alsa-lib-1.2.5.1-2.fc34.x86_64
alsa-sof-firmware-1.8-1.fc34.noarch
alsa-ucm-1.2.5.1-2.fc34.noarch
alsa-utils-1.2.5.1-1.fc34.x86_64

pipewire-0.3.35-2.fc34.x86_64
pipewire-alsa-0.3.35-2.fc34.x86_64
pipewire-gstreamer-0.3.35-2.fc34.x86_64
pipewire-jack-audio-connection-kit-0.3.35-2.fc34.x86_64
pipewire-libs-0.3.35-2.fc34.x86_64
pipewire-pulseaudio-0.3.35-2.fc34.x86_64
pipewire-utils-0.3.35-2.fc34.x86_64
pipewire0.2-libs-0.2.7-5.fc34.x86_64

pulseaudio-libs-14.2-3.fc34.x86_64
pulseaudio-libs-glib2-14.2-3.fc34.x86_64
pulseaudio-qt-1.2-5.fc34.x86_64
pulseaudio-utils-14.2-3.fc34.x86_64

Any info on how this stuff is supposed to work / hang together would be 
appreciated! - a diagram somewhere would be great!


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Re: /dev/sdb5 = /home => /devsda5 - at login can't chdir to /home/phr -> left in "/" - but then "cd" works ?!

2021-08-11 Thread Philip Rhoades via users

Samuel,


On 2021-08-12 05:49, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 2021-08-11 12:19 p.m., Philip Rhoades via users wrote:
I installed a new disk with F34 and made the old disk with F33 on it 
the backup disk - but I continued to use partition /dev/sdb5 mounted 
on /home while I sorted out stuff.  When I finally rsynced everything 
from /dev/sdb5 to /dev/sda5 and mounted that on /home I got this weird 
problem - I have never seen it before:


When /dev/sdb5 is mounted on /home everything works as expected but 
when I umount that drive and then mount /dev/sda5 on /home and try and 
login as user "phr", I get an "unable to change to dir /home/phr" 
message and end up at "/".  However, if I just type "cd" and enter, I 
end up in /home/phr and everything seems to be working!  The dirs, 
files and permissions on both partitions seem to be identical so I am 
stumped about what is causing this login error . . any ideas?


It's probably an selinux issue.  The labeling won't be correct because
of how you copied the files.  When you have /dev/sda5 mounted on
/home, run "restorecon -rv /home" as root.  See if that fixes the
problem.



Ah yes, that sounds like the problem - thanks!

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/dev/sdb5 = /home => /devsda5 - at login can't chdir to /home/phr -> left in "/" - but then "cd" works ?!

2021-08-11 Thread Philip Rhoades via users

People,

I installed a new disk with F34 and made the old disk with F33 on it the 
backup disk - but I continued to use partition /dev/sdb5 mounted on 
/home while I sorted out stuff.  When I finally rsynced everything from 
/dev/sdb5 to /dev/sda5 and mounted that on /home I got this weird 
problem - I have never seen it before:


When /dev/sdb5 is mounted on /home everything works as expected but when 
I umount that drive and then mount /dev/sda5 on /home and try and login 
as user "phr", I get an "unable to change to dir /home/phr" message and 
end up at "/".  However, if I just type "cd" and enter, I end up in 
/home/phr and everything seems to be working!  The dirs, files and 
permissions on both partitions seem to be identical so I am stumped 
about what is causing this login error . . any ideas?


Thanks,

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Re: F33 Xorg XFCE4 ALSA => F34 Wayland Gnome PipeWire - Issue #1

2021-07-08 Thread Philip Rhoades via users

Kevin,


On 2021-07-08 23:29, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Wed, Jul 07, 2021 at 03:30:41AM +1000, Philip Rhoades via users 
wrote:

People,

There doesn't seem to be a dedicated Fedora Gnome list so I am posting 
here

- I have looked around a lot for info before posting.


You could try the desktop list:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/desk...@lists.fedoraproject.org/



I will repost there if I can't recover some of the lost productivity 
with ideas suggested here - thanks.



In my traditional XFCE4 environment, on the top task bar I have had 
direct
access to everything I need to get to: workspaces and stacked programs 
of
each app eg:  Chrome, FF, Brave, X-Terminals, Kitty Terminals etc.  
Now in

Gnome, not only do I not have direct access to the workspace I want (I
usually have four - each used for different work), but the task bar is 
only
showing ONE stacked app instead of ALL the apps in the current 
workspace -
how do I customise this task bar to look like my usual work 
environment?  I
want to persist with this environment but so far the update / 
changeover has

resulted in a severe downgrade in my productivity . .


You might consider:

Using alt-tab to switch between windows/applications instead of 
clicking
on a taskbar? If the default alt-tab isn't to your liking (by default 
it
lists all applications and windows in those applications seperately) 
you

can change it to do every window instead.



Alt-TAB does not work the same way as in XFCE4 - it looks like I could 
do what I usually do with:


  Alt-TAB Alt-`

but that is a two-step process.



Hit the 'meta' key (the windows key on many keyboards) to go to the
overview and all your apps, workspaces are shown there. You can even 
hit

meta and type the first part of whatever you are looking for is, and if
it's running, it will take you directly to it (ie, 'fire' return, takes
me to my firefox window. more shortcuts at



Very clumsy . .



https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/shell-keyboard-shortcuts.html.en



As mentioned above, I did find that and it helped a little . .



If you have a touchpad you can use gestures to switch to the overview,
between desktops, between apps. See https://forty.gnome.org/ for more
info.



I am on a desktop top and hate having to touch the mouse unnecessarily . 
.




Finally if that doesn't work, you could look at extensions. There's
likely extensions that do what you like. See
https://extensions.gnome.org I would advise trying to adjust your
workflow to use keyboard or overview thought. That way you avoid
extensions that might break and it actually (IMHO) ends up being easier
in the end.



I will check them out - thanks!

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Re: F33 Xorg XFCE4 ALSA => F34 Wayland Gnome PipeWire - Issue #1

2021-07-08 Thread Philip Rhoades via users

Samuel,


On 2021-07-08 16:33, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 7/6/21 10:30 AM, Philip Rhoades via users wrote:
In my traditional XFCE4 environment, on the top task bar I have had 
direct access to everything I need to get to: workspaces and stacked 
programs of each app eg:  Chrome, FF, Brave, X-Terminals, Kitty 
Terminals etc.  Now in Gnome, not only do I not have direct access to 
the workspace I want (I usually have four - each used for different 
work), but the task bar is only showing ONE stacked app instead of ALL 
the apps in the current workspace - how do I customise this task bar 
to look like my usual work environment?  I want to persist with this 
environment but so far the update / changeover has resulted in a 
severe downgrade in my productivity . .


I personally don't see the benefit of it, but you can either install
the Gnome Classic session (gnome-classic-session) and pick that at
login or you can install the Window List extension
(gnome-shell-extension-window-list) and enable it.



I will have a look at those things.

Thanks,

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Re: F33 Xorg XFCE4 ALSA => F34 Wayland Gnome PipeWire - Issue #1

2021-07-07 Thread Philip Rhoades via users

Bob,


On 2021-07-07 09:22, Bob Marcan wrote:

On Wed, 07 Jul 2021 07:11:23 +1000
Philip Rhoades via users  wrote:


Doug,


On 2021-07-07 04:31, Doug H. wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 6, 2021, at 10:30 AM, Philip Rhoades via users wrote:
>> People,
>> >> There doesn't seem to be a dedicated Fedora Gnome list so I am posting
>> here - I have looked around a lot for info before posting.
>> >> In my traditional XFCE4 environment, on the top task bar I have had
>> direct access to everything I need to get to:
>
> Why don't you continue with Xfce4 in F34?


Mostly because I have been wanting to use Wayland for a long time but 
it is not supported by XFCE4 yet . . I will probably look at going 
back to XFCE4 when Wayland is supported . .


P.


Did you consider the opposite?
I'm using fvwm and i'm waiting when Wayland will support emulating X11. 
;-)



Hmm . . interesting . .

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Re: F33 Xorg XFCE4 ALSA => F34 Wayland Gnome PipeWire - Issue #1

2021-07-06 Thread Philip Rhoades via users

Doug,


On 2021-07-07 04:31, Doug H. wrote:

On Tue, Jul 6, 2021, at 10:30 AM, Philip Rhoades via users wrote:

People,

There doesn't seem to be a dedicated Fedora Gnome list so I am posting
here - I have looked around a lot for info before posting.

In my traditional XFCE4 environment, on the top task bar I have had
direct access to everything I need to get to:


Why don't you continue with Xfce4 in F34?



Mostly because I have been wanting to use Wayland for a long time but it 
is not supported by XFCE4 yet . . I will probably look at going back to 
XFCE4 when Wayland is supported . .


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F33 Xorg XFCE4 ALSA => F34 Wayland Gnome PipeWire - Issue #1

2021-07-06 Thread Philip Rhoades via users

People,

There doesn't seem to be a dedicated Fedora Gnome list so I am posting 
here - I have looked around a lot for info before posting.


In my traditional XFCE4 environment, on the top task bar I have had 
direct access to everything I need to get to: workspaces and stacked 
programs of each app eg:  Chrome, FF, Brave, X-Terminals, Kitty 
Terminals etc.  Now in Gnome, not only do I not have direct access to 
the workspace I want (I usually have four - each used for different 
work), but the task bar is only showing ONE stacked app instead of ALL 
the apps in the current workspace - how do I customise this task bar to 
look like my usual work environment?  I want to persist with this 
environment but so far the update / changeover has resulted in a severe 
downgrade in my productivity . .


Thanks,

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