Re: Fedora vs openSUSE
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 12:01 AM, g gel...@bellsouth.net wrote: the fedora vs suse vs ubuntu troll is back. new name. same game. I really didn't understand if you are mis understanding something? Which new name and which same game? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Was Fedora vs openSUSE now -exageration extraordinaire
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: There is no one correct distribution. If there was, we would all be using it or do you think we are so stupid we would deliberately choose not to use it? Correct, I came to know this, thanks. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Was Fedora vs openSUSE now -exageration extraordinaire
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 12:46 PM, g gel...@bellsouth.net wrote: as for God blessing me. He has, many times. May God bless all of us, I don't want to come into more debate, you do whatever you wish, its your life. tell Suneeta hello. Don't know what is Suneeta? What is it? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Was Fedora vs openSUSE now -exageration extraordinaire
2011/12/23 夜神 岩男 supergiantpot...@yahoo.co.jp: Its Christmas, so probably lots. +1 And merry Christmas to all, incl. 'g'. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Was Fedora vs openSUSE now -exageration extraordinaire
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 6:32 PM, g gel...@bellsouth.net wrote: a web search thru 3 sites on shows one living in India. Well I am an Indian but I do_not_live_there_right now! Okay? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Was Fedora vs openSUSE now -exageration extraordinaire
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 6:39 PM, g gel...@bellsouth.net wrote: Suneeta is a very common name in India. So John is also a common name, Mathew is also common, so what? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Was Fedora vs openSUSE now -exageration extraordinaire
2011/12/23 夜神 岩男 supergiantpot...@yahoo.co.jp: I'm not sure what's got you riled about my response. I really did write that, not the Indian guy you've a problem with. As far as Christmas goes, it is clearly the season when list goes haywire, so I was only striving to make as much sense as everything else in this thread to date. I've been around for quite a while, too. Someone might be playing games with identities here, but I've never noticed anyone trying to impersonate me on this or any other list. (I *did* catch someone pretending to me me on a blog once or twice, but that was quickly resolved.) I really don't understand what he wanted to say, we should just leave him aside, I was just wishing the Happy Christmas to all including him, but he seems a fool born with the targets of debate and non sense only. And sometimes blaming you of impersonation and other times me, he seems more mad, I guess... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Was Fedora vs openSUSE now -exageration extraordinaire
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 7:58 PM, g gel...@bellsouth.net wrote: yes, john and mathew common 'english' names. as are rameshwar or kr. or sharma, are common names of people of India. except that *Rameshwar Kr. Sharma* is not a common name. so, for the rest of members of this list, go ahead, have it your way and continue to lie. at least you believe what you are saying. And you forgot all things of 'g', really absurd! Liar! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Was Fedora vs openSUSE now -exageration extraordinaire
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 10:44 PM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: George, I think you are unnecessarily harsh and abusive - but my determination was made long before this exchange. That said, you seemingly are incapable of understanding the adage... don't feed the trolls. He is person who is born to debate and talk non sense, most of the time, I have seen this. and so there is no doubt about Rameshwar being a troll, consider... http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-December/410414.html and https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2011-December/255723.html Whether he has other identities on this and the other lists is something I am not going to waste any time speculating upon but it seems that he is just a waste of time and energy. Correct, I did ask in the Ubuntu lists too, but please: for a while think of the time when you too were an absolute beginner and finding your way typical of chosing the correct distribution and then start working for it! Its typical for a newbie to decide for the correct distribution, so that matters a lot and it seems as if someone is a troll, but this is not the case Craig. I hope you would see from my (newbie) perspective too. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Was Fedora vs openSUSE now -exageration extraordinaire
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 11:31 PM, g gel...@bellsouth.net wrote: as always, i do respect your opinion, other than a couple times we have gotten a little sideways, i have tried to maintain my harshness and abusiveness to trolls, and other such ingrates. You are harsh in almost every talk, more of the times, I have seen you being non sense and abusive and talking anything of the persons of any country, like for Americans, if you are from Greek, don't abuse Americans. i agree. some times i just get weak. Not some times, almost, all of the times. true, he has been a great waste of time, both on and off list. You are also a waste bin, do you understand this? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Was Fedora vs openSUSE now -exageration extraordinaire
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 12:04 AM, David dgbo...@gmail.com wrote: I have been told that the same(??) guy asked the very same question with the very same Subject: line on the Ubuntu list the other day. David, I understand your concern and respect your views but would like to tell you the same: Correct, I did ask in the Ubuntu lists too, but please: for a while think of the time when you too were an absolute beginner and finding your way typical of chosing the correct distribution and then start working for it! Its typical for a newbie to decide for the correct distribution, so that matters a lot and it seems as if someone is a troll, but this is not the case Craig. I hope you would see from my (newbie) perspective too. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Was Fedora vs openSUSE now -exageration extraordinaire
2011/12/22 Christopher Svanefalk christopher.svanef...@gmail.com: Are we not uneccessaily extending a conversion which should end now, like 夜神 岩男 said truly please invoke a zombie thread any more. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Was Fedora vs openSUSE now -exageration extraordinaire
2011/12/22 Rameshwar Kr. Sharma mathsrealwo...@gmail.com: Are we not uneccessaily extending a conversion which should end now, like 夜神 岩男 said truly please invoke a zombie thread any more. Please don't invoke what I meant. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Was Fedora vs openSUSE now -exageration extraordinaire
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 8:51 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: That logic is beyond the scope of my comprehension at the moment. True and so for me, some have habit of debates, better is we should leave it there itself and on its on. With time, it settles, perhaps. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Was Fedora vs openSUSE now -exageration extraordinaire
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 9:30 PM, g gel...@bellsouth.net wrote: True and so for me, some have habit of debates, better is we should leave it there itself and on its on. With time, it settles, perhaps. better to have a habit of debate than a habit of trolling and deceit. Correct, so never troll then. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Was Fedora vs openSUSE now -exageration extraordinaire
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 11:42 PM, g gel...@bellsouth.net wrote: the pot calling the kettle black. very topical of a troll. i am not the one who has been trolling this list. While most the persons here are helpful and suggesting but I have so far, seen only you to come into the war and fight, shame on you! Whether you call yourself 'g' or 'G' (whatever that meant, lol), but you seem to be a foolish person. i have tried to help you, but you got angry. you got angry at another and insulted them. I don't know when you tried to help me, you seem to be equally mad also. in one of your persona's, i suggested you to do something, which you did as yourself. and as yourself, you repeat what you asked in your personae. then as yourself, you are given same answers that where told to your persona's. only difference this round is that you finally agree that what you where told before is good. You need to go to psychiatric, I assume. what makes you even worse, is you use a sockpuppet. I presume that you are disturbed with some personal issues in your life, so saying such things in the list, may God bless you. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora vs openSUSE
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de wrote: http://www.suse.com/company/press/2011/7/microsoft-and-suse-renew-successful-interoperability-agreement.html It's up to you to draw your conclusions. Some people consider this agreement to be the dawn of mankind, SUSE betraying/threatening the freedoms of Linux and SUSE having contracted with the devils of the 'evil empire'. To other people (apparently SUSE itself) it's a valuable feature and valuable advantage SUSE Linux has over its competitors. To most end-users, this contract is not of much practical importance, but is more a political thing. Yes but I have started the torrent download of -- Fedora and Ubuntu (LTS) for this time, after the completion would definitely start for 11.4 openSUSE too and would see from the LIVE CDs which suit me the most, which I assume either Fedora or Ubuntu, but without actually practically seeing I really cannot comments. Thanks to the developers that they created the use of Live CDs without which it seems a more typical kind or thing to judge a distro. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: [OT] Re: Fedora vs openSUSE
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Paul Allen Newell pnew...@cs.cmu.edu wrote: All the best, Thanks Paul. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: [OT] Re: Fedora vs openSUSE
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com wrote: if they really wanted to know, they could check my ip address. :-) Your IP address is not necessarily constant. And if you want to mask it you can use TOR, but we're getting way OT now. +1 And what if he/she might be using some anonymous web surfing tool like 'TOR'? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora vs openSUSE
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Antonio Olivares olivares14...@yahoo.com wrote: This is entirely up to you :) You decide. If you like OpenSUSE, use it. Deals of sleeping with the devil by M$ should not discourage you right? If you are on users list at fedoraproject, why not Fedora? This community is for Fedora users, not OpenSUSE. But you decide which version of linux you want to use. Well, the download would be complete within 2-3 hours of Fedora and Ubuntu and sure I am seeing the LIVE CDs first of all the three and then install one and start using, hopefully and at first preference: Fedora. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora vs openSUSE
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 7:37 PM, Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de wrote: a) such deals are not uncommon in the commercial world. It's only that SUSE uses this deal for marketing purposes, while there probably exist similar deals, the public simply never will know about. b) whom to consider the devil is (mostly) a religous matter. c) Times are changing: Though Microsoft and Linux definitely are not close friends, Microsoft's attitude towards Linux has changed at least to some extend. Also, the real threats to Linux and FLOSS is not Microsoft, anymore. There are a lot of answers, I could provide, if I wanted, but I am not interested in yet another flamewar ;) Back to OP's original question: To absolute beginners, from a mere usability POV, I in first place recommend Ubuntu, then openSUSE, then (with larger gap inbetween) followed by Fedora, ... Debian on last place. If freedom of software is your highest aim, then Debian should be your first choice, followed by Fedora, then a gap, then openSUSE, followed by Ubuntu on last place. From a mere technical standpoint, Fedora, Ubuntu and openSUSE all are on comparable levels and stages of development. Very well said, I see. Really came to know the Debian has largest pool of software. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora vs openSUSE
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 8:53 PM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote: Though be aware that Live CDs are a poor demonstration. For one thing, they're a slow medium. So don't be put off trying a proper installation if the demonstration isn't that good. Oh yes, but I can install from Live CD only and then just update the system after installation, is it fine, I guess. Yes, it is a good idea to try more than one distro to see which is better suited for you. But I haven't seen anybody mention the other important thing: See what technical support you can get for each, and which you prefer out of that. e.g. I find this mailing list very good. I haven't thought much of the Ubuntu forums, back when I was looking at it. If you can't use the distro all by yourself, and need help, you want it to be useful to you. Well, important point mentioned. (I guess) all the three have good supporting mailing lists, however, I have not compared. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora vs openSUSE
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Clive Hills discordia...@gmail.com wrote: Can this just stop. What to be stopped? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: [OT] Re: Fedora vs openSUSE
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com wrote: It's a DSLAM (DSL Access Module), i.e. a card stuck into the phone company's switch. Now a ways, router are used more often, some boxy type of thing. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora vs openSUSE
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: conversation is my Delete Message button, applied with gusto. Roger evidently your aim isn't so good and you hit the reply button instead of delete button. +1 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Fedora vs openSUSE
Hello community, This has been a great news for me that I am going switch to Linux from Windows XP, I am bored using it, many viruses and also high cost to maintain. Apart from it, I came to know that there are many linux and more specifically distributions. So really speaking, I am a bit confused between them, want to give try to Fedora but a picture of opensuse comes in mind, then some other distribution...While I know that these are fedora mailing list and anyone is going to give directions for only Fedora, but can one honestly tell me the differences between Fedora and opensuse? I came to know from some people that not to try Ubuntu (I don't know why they said so) and said that most of the people in Ubuntu mailing lists are more of dumbs, so I have claimed this question here only but I am really new -- what you guys think the best, please do tell me Now since my mind has become a little negative for Ubuntu, I just wanted to know the truth (remaining) between opensuse and Fedora, and for rest of the distributions more -- I would really not look for I would be confused more. Thanks a lot in advance. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora vs openSUSE
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 11:01 PM, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: Notably Fedora has some features that may make it not suitable for everyone. Fedora versions are only supported for 13 months, so you will be looking at doing upgrades once (or twice if you don't want to skip releases) a year. Fedora cannot include software covered by patents and hence doesn't come with support for some commonly used codecs. Fedora also doesn't include proprietary drivers. While the open source drivers have gotten better and will be reaching a few important milestones around F17, if you want to get the most out of your video card you are going to want to use proprietary drivers. rpmfusion provides support for many codecs and for proprietary drivers. Using the codecs may or may not be strictly legal in your juristriction. I wouldn't write off using Ubuntu for some use cases. They provide long term support for some of their releases. You could also use their upstream distro, Debian. If you want a Red Hat derived distro without buying support, you can look at CentOS or Scientific Linux. Those have long life cycles that avoid having to do yearly release changes. Also note that using poor security practices under Linux can get your system owned, just like under Windows. Well said, but I just wanted to learn the Linux from the basics - right from the first step. So if Fedora really gives all such issues, should I go to openSUSE? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora vs openSUSE
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Swapnil Bhartiya swapnil.bhart...@gmail.com wrote: Now since my mind has become a little negative for Ubuntu, I just wanted to know the truth (remaining) between opensuse and Fedora, and for rest of the distributions more -- I would really not look for I would be confused more. Why is it negative about Ubuntu? I am OS agnostic run all three on different machines. Fedora may give issues if you have non-free hardware. I gave up on Fedora on my main PC which has Nvidia GTX 470. Tried three fresh installs all failed. Using fedora on laptop and openSUSE and Ubuntu on main PC. It also depends on your level of comfort with GNU/Linux. Ubuntu has some advantages such as PPAs where you can easily install apps. Fedora repository misses some apps such as arista. So, if you are the one who needs a lot of applications, Fedora may not work for you. Also, if you want to learn more about GNU/Linux then go Fedora/openSUSE way. Base of Ubuntu is Debian so, there is no harm as long as you are using Gnome 3 Shell or KDE. Try all and use what works for you. Ok well, my purpose is just to learn linux, and in fact I was really confused. I heard people saying that Fedora is too technical. So okay you are true that one should go with the one is okay. But from openSUSE and ubuntu which according to you should be given preference? Asking since I really don't know, I know I can try both but what your suggestions are? Is openSUSE good for learning Linux? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora vs openSUSE
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 11:04 PM, charles zeitler cfzeit...@gmail.com wrote: Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. Yeah correct but since I was confused and new, so suggestions put a great deal of work for me, after all community members are so much experienced! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora vs openSUSE
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 11:04 PM, charles zeitler cfzeit...@gmail.com wrote: Fedora is not constrained by cooperating with Microsoft... I really didn't understand this sentence and its hidden (may be) meaning. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora vs openSUSE
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 6:35 AM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: fedora is truly not for someone who is oos minded. possibly - but just out of curiosity, do you have any installed from or have enabled rpmfusion-nonfree repo? suse/ubuntu are for simple oos minded users. I think he asked about openSuSE which is a bit different and to be honest, I have never used openSuSE and it's been years since I used SuSE but saying that Ubuntu is for simple oos minded users is a characterization that I just don't agree with. It's just a different Linux distribution and seems reasonably easy to work with - like any Fedora/Red Hat derived system. in other words, if you have to keep asking about the two and do not realize differance yet, go with suse/ubuntu or stay with oos. The real truth is that it's stupid to accept other people's characterizations of one distribution over another since everyone looks for different things and only through first hand experience can one actually know. Really good answers and I see from Live CDs then. I was confused since I was someone told me about openSUSE but I read about its deal with MS. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora vs openSUSE
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 12:02 AM, Antonio Olivares olivares14...@yahoo.com wrote: If you want to learn linux, then go and get Slackware! If you want hand holding and flash + codecs get Mint based on Ubuntu, If you want 2 learn Fedora then stay and use it. If you want to use OpenSUSE you can do it too. If you just want to get a feel for either system get a livecd and run it from each system. Then try to decide for yourself which systems works better for you. OpenSUSE slept with the devil in the M$ deal, but it is a good system and if that does not bother you? You can also go for Arch Linux, Gentoo Linux or other source based distro in which you really get to learn linux and not let the distro creators what they want* and you get to decide what you want*! Fedora is an excellent system but you have to try it on your own and get to like it. Well, thanks for the suggestions, I really would have to see the Live CDs. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora vs openSUSE
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 4:53 AM, charles zeitler cfzeit...@gmail.com wrote:
Fedora is not constrained by cooperating with Microsoft...
I really didn't understand this sentence and its hidden (may be) meaning.
Opensuses' 'agreement' with Microsoft
http://www.suse.com/company/press/2011/7/microsoft-and-suse-renew-successful-interoperability-agreement.html
necessarily imposes limitations (theoretical if not actual) on its development
('intellectual property concerns')
Oh I see, this is really amazing. So should I not use openSUSE because
of this deal? Thanks.
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Re: [OT] Re: Fedora vs openSUSE
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 11:42 AM, g gel...@bellsouth.net wrote: i have never understood why Americans are just Americans with out distinction as to what part. my ancestry is Greek and Scotch-Irish. I guess these are technical lists and anything you say for Americans, this is not the right place, I assume you are a bit more confused with you life, so putting any frustration here itself. Further you are impersonating me to someone else, I don't know what is your intention but I asked the question here to get some good answers like many persons here have suggested, but you seem more to be a troll who is interested in other topics, and starting a debate which serves no purpose to the mailing lists of Fedora, so I hope you please ... Further, please guys, if I am wrong, let me know! Thanks. And God Bless Ram. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora vs openSUSE
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Paul Allen Newell pnew...@cs.cmu.edu wrote: Until you are familiar enough with any version of Linux, this issue is academic as you can't determine whether it applies to you or not. You need to just pick a distro, dive in, swim around, and then take another look at what you should be using. Choice of os is best based on experience rather than theory / advice. Correct, and thanks for this suggestion, reading the whole of the list, I guess I just pick one at random, use it for at least 6 months and then give a try to some other one. You are right that people here have different experiences so they tell accordingly, I guess I have to just pick one at random whether it is Fedora, or openSUSE or Ubuntu. Thanks. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora vs openSUSE
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Paul Allen Newell pnew...@cs.cmu.edu wrote: You need to just pick a distro, dive in, swim around, and then take another look at what you should be using. http://www.suse.com/company/press/2011/7/microsoft-and-suse-renew-successful-interoperability-agreement.html Seeing this, my heart is tilted more towards other distros. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: [OT] Re: Fedora vs openSUSE
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Paul Allen Newell pnew...@cs.cmu.edu wrote: Be careful on your judgments ... this list sometimes goes off-topic without declaring it and it is best to give the benefit of the doubt until a one-on-one offends. I wish the list would stay on focus, but I also wish people would use turn signals when driving and have adjusted to the reality that I am wishing on a star .. and all I care about is not having an accident. Your wish is nice and I really didn't know that off topics run here too, but more of the interest, I got the suggestions. At least more than 50% of the answers (hope I am true) were related with the query ! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora vs openSUSE
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Paul Allen Newell pnew...@cs.cmu.edu wrote: Yes. Pick one now and learn. You'll be surprised at how much better your questions are once you've done the plunge. All three sound good ... just do it rather than try to figure out what is best from a distance. Okay sure, I guess I start the torrent download, and thanks again for the suggestions. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
