Gnome 3 in fallback mode for no apparent reason
Hi all, this morning when turning on my workstation (Fedora 18, 64 bit) it started Gnome 3 in fallback mode. I had shut it down the evening before while running in "full" mode and not made any change to the system: nor (known) configuration changes nor updates installed. Since that's pretty much unusable, I switched to my laptop to get some work done: also Fedora 18, 64 bit, also usually running Gnome3 in full UI. It also booted in fallback mode!? In both systems, which where both running fine the previous day, I can't get it to run in enhanced mode anymore. I tried: - rebooting - reverting last updates using yum history (even though I'm pretty sure these where older than the symptoms) - creating and logging in with a newly created user In both cases I can't get it to run in full mode anymore; any advice? where can I find logs for a possible reason? The only common element I see in the two systems is that both have an NVidia video card and I'm forced to use the proprietary drivers because of other issues, but this worked pretty well so far. I'm very puzzled this problem came out of the blue after it had worked very well on both systems for months, at the same time on two independend systems. -- Sanne -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Gnome 3 in fallback mode for no apparent reason
On 16 March 2013 01:45, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 16.03.2013 02:36, schrieb Sanne Grinovero: >> The only common element I see in the two systems is that both have an >> NVidia video card and I'm forced to use the proprietary drivers >> because of other issues, >> but this worked pretty well so far. > > and you are sure there was no kernel-update which maybe > is incompatible with the closed source crap of nvidia > and due the update the existing one was removed? Yes I'm sure: modules listing, logs and nvidia-settings all confirm I'm running the nvidia module. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Workstation 23 (Beta) locking up
Hi all, I was brave enough to upgrade my primary work laptop - a Lenovo laptop T440s - from Fedora 22 (workstation) to the Beta of version 23. The upgrade was smooth, Gnome 3 is working great, and it's all looking gorgeous but the machine occasionally seems to "freeze" and I have to long-press the power button to force a shut down as it won't react to any other key combination I tried (from ctrl-alt-del to ctrl-alt-F1..F9, ctrl-alt-backspace). Kernel version is 4.2.1-300.fc23.x86_64 (not tainted nor customized). The boot command line is the "vanilla" one: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-4.2.1-300.fc23.x86_64 root=UUID=f12bc342-dcf1-4c72-815f-4d3c0475a9f0 ro rootflags=subvol=root vconsole.font=latarcyrheb-sun16 rhgb quiet Is there anything I can do to help getting this fixed? I guess a good start would be to report it on some issue tracker, but I'm not sure which one, or which component: I probably need some help to narrow it done somewhat? Thanks, Sanne -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Workstation 23 (Beta) locking up
On 5 October 2015 at 13:10, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2015-10-05 at 11:48 +0200, Sanne Grinovero wrote: >> Is there anything I can do to help getting this fixed? > > The first step is to post on the Test list, not on this one. F23 is not > a released version, so the Users list is the wrong place. Thanks! And sorry, I was already having a bad feeling about not having seen much about the 23 Beta on this list ;) Sanne -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Fedora 18 on MacBook Pro
Hello all, while I don't like OsX and have been "linux power user" for over many years, I was offered a new MacBook pro 15" (non-retina) as an upgrade for the old work laptop (edition summer 2012). Using Fedora as main OS I immediately suspected this choice was not ideal, but the build quality and hardware was tempting so I accepted the offer, well aware I'd have to work a bit to get Fedora running on it. Also very rarely I need to test some things on OsX so being able to dual boot in it sounded like a good idea. By following some guides I installed rEFIt and managed to install Fedora 17 initially, but that was a disaster of workarounds needed to apply as kernel parameters and never got it stable, so I ended up installing beta1 of Fedora 18.. much better: after yum updating to the latest kernel packages I noticed I don't even need dirty tricks such as disabling apic: the system is stable for desktop usage. There are still plenty of problems to solve for "on the road" usage: - if I try to suspend it, it can't resume -> have to cold-restart it. - booting up is extremely slow, rEFIt seems to search for a long time before handing over to Grub - when using out of the box parameters, the battery doesn't give you much more than 30 minutes work time All these combined make it damn hard to "quickly check something". After using powertop I can get it to roughly 1,2 hours, better but clearly something is wrong yet. I'm suspecting the NVIDIA card: if I run lspci it reports a single VGA device from NVIDIA; I'm pretty sure that this laptop has an intel one as well and is supposed to activate NVidia only on demand. I don't actually need dynamic switching, I'd like to disable the Nvidia one and use the Intel one only; I'm not even sure what X is using today: /var/log/Xorg.0.log mentions VESA .. looks strange to me as Gnome3 is succesfully working with all effects. My suspicion is that I'm not booting the system with EFI and the damn thing is emulating the BIOS mode as it would do for Windows installations (through Apple's bootcamp), this might explain why the Intel device is "hidden"? Looking at >top I can also see that gnome-shell is burning a hell of CPU, is that how I'm having the full effects experience while running on VESA? I see gnome-shell using around 50% of *each* of my CPUs. In my experiments I also tried to use nuoveau or the Nvidia proprietary drivers, to see if they could improve either CPU or battery. nouveau: it doesn't seem to load the modules. NVidia: system locks up booting from self-built kernel 3.8.0-rc2 (to try newer nouveau): system boots, Gnome3 shows a useless error "something went wrong, contact your sysadmin".. no clue so I abandoned this path (of course this could have failed for other reasons). As resuming from suspend also fails because the screen doesn't turn on again, I hope all these problems are related. Anyone has a clue please? As I'm suspecting it's using the BIOS emulation (how to check??), I'd like to try booting it as a "real EFI" OS but I have no clue of how that would work, and couldn't find much literature on this subject, at least not suitable for my level of skill.. any pointers appreciated, especially to work with Fedora 18! Thanks in advance, Sanne -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Can't stand Gnome3, I think it's time for Fedora to move on
FWIW, I'm absolutely in love with Gnome3. Best thing ever happened to UI. That said, it would be nice indeed if users had a choice during installation, something simple like 3 screenshots to choose from. On 22 November 2013 21:53, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 11/22/2013 01:20 PM, Steven Stern wrote: >> >> I do that now, but this system has been upgraded from F16 through 19 and >> I've been tweaking and tweaking the Gnome settings. Who knows what I've >> broken? > > > The odds are, nothing. If you had broken something, Gnome wouldn't be > working properly. > > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Fedora 32 + nVidia graphic artifacts on resume
Hello all, after resuming from standby, many applications seem to omit repainting or refreshing areas of the screen. The system seems stable overall: applications keep running correctly, but I can't see important areas on the screen. For example, I might be able to open my email inbox, but then I can't archive an email as the area where the control buttons are supposed to be is entirely white (or black, in other applications). Or, someone pings me on IM - I can see the text but I can't reply as the reply area isn't there... you get the idea, it's annoying :) I've seen this happening both when using Gnome and when using i3. Since I'm running the nvidia proprietary drivers I'm assuming this is not related with Wayland, more likely some optimisation of the nvidia driver or how it integrates with X ? Would anyone have a suggestion as to how to debug this further, or a possible workaround? Maybe some nvidia driver option I could pass on the kernel, or in the X config file? I'd highly appreciate solving this, as it's my primary development machine: having to close all applications for frequent reboots has become very inconvenient. Unfortunately I can't easily roll back some update: I had this problem for many weeks, as initially I dismissed it as "just a glitch"; I had not paid enough attention to it and hadn't noticed that it was related to resuming from standby. This is what I'm running today: - linux 5.8.6-201.fc32.x86_64 - nvidia 450.66 Thanks! Sanne ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
No Wayland option after DNF based upgrade?
Hello, on one of my workstations I installed Fedora 24 "clean": wiped the hard drive, new partitions and installed Fedora 24 Workstation from the USB stick. Everything worked fine in this case, and as expected - according to various blogs I've found - when logging in I can choose between: - "Gnome" - "Gnome classic" - "Gnome on Wayland" On some other workstations, I performed a non-destructive upgrade from Fedora 23 using dnf, and in this case the Wayland option is missing. The related packages seems to be installed according to dnf though. (I might be wrong as I'm not entirely sure which packages might control this, but I see several wayland related packages are installed). On one of the workstations which is missing the Wayland option during login I'm having some issues with graphics; like google chrome sometimes showing artifacts, and occasionally my whole graphical environment disappears temporarily, to see the login terminal for some seconds. Nothing bad really happens, I press some CTRL+ALT+F? combinations and the graphical environment reappears (I think it was F2 but I'm not sure). So I'd like to try my luck with Wayland instead.. or maybe I'm running Wayland already? I'm not sure :) Any idea? Thanks, Sanne -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: errors during update.
Noticed this same error in the logs, as I try to figure out if it's related to the nvidia drivers being no longer loaded after yesterday's updates. I'm not sure if it's related, just suspecting it.. On Sat, 16 Jan 2021 at 03:55, Frank McCormick wrote: > > > > On 1/14/21 11:50 PM, Frank McCormick wrote: > > > > > > On 1/14/21 6:30 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > >> Hmmm > >> > >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1908005 > >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1911038 > >> _ > > > > > > Sounds like it has happened before ??? > > > > > > ___ > > >It is happening to a bunch of people. It's being worked on > if you want to follow along check out the link to the second bug 1911038 > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org