Re: EXTERNAL: Re: What to do about a GUI application not appearing in Gnome Software?

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On 2/15/21 4:50 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 16/02/2021 05:22, Matti Pulkkinen wrote:
>> I noticed that RStudio doesn't show up in Gnome Software's search on
>> F33 Workstation. My understanding is that graphical applications should
>> be installable through Gnome Software, but I'm not sure whether filing
>> a bug would be the right thing to do here, ot whether there's something
>> else I should do instead.
>
> I don't generally use Gnome/Workstation.
>
> However, I do note that the RStudio software doesn't show up in
> "Software".  A search in that
> application shows nothing.  As you've said.
>
> There is another package management GUI called
> "gnome-packagekit-installer" and it does show up
> in that GUI when you search for it.
>
> So, yes, I'd file a bugzilla against "Gnome Software".  And, then
> either use the alternate GUI or
> use dnf.  FWIW, I don't use the installer GUI for KDE either.  I only
> use dnf from the command line.

same here, and dnf install rstudio appears to work (fwiw)


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Re: EXTERNAL: Re: errors during update.

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here too

On 1/14/21 6:13 PM, sixpack13 wrote:
> same here
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Re: EXTERNAL: Firefox Clear History not clickable / F33

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On 10/28/20 4:38 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> This is with default Fedora 33 Workstation x86_64.
>
> Firefox > History > Clear Recent History > Time range to clear
>
> The combobox can be clicked to show the drop-down list, but none of the
> shown items can be selected with a mouse-click. Using cursor keys is the
> workaround.
>
> Can anyone reproduce that?
On FF 82.0 (on FC 32 workstation x86_64) I observe the same thing
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Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Gnome shell doesn't like my mouse

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On 9/17/20 2:54 PM, George N. White III wrote:
On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 at 13:29, Jerome Lille 
mailto:jerome.li...@ownbay.net>> wrote:
Hi

I've noticed in system log the following message popping up from time
to time.

gnome-shell[4119]: libinput error: event5  - Kingsis mouse: client bug:
event processing lagging behind by 21ms, your system is too slow

>From my somewhat old Microsoft Wheel Mouse Optical 1.1A USB connected
via an older hub:

gnome-shell[11094]: libinput error: event7  - Microsoft Microsoft 3-Button 
Mouse with IntelliEye(TM): client bug: event processing lagging behind by 28ms, 
your system is too slow


What should I do about? What is the actual problem? Is my mouse too old
and needs to be replaced? It is not a bluetooth mouse, but one with a
tail.

It is a feature:
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Libinput-1.16-RC

One comment blames lagging response on too many messages informing you your 
system is lagging.
FWIW, libinput 1.16 (FC32) I get the same messages with my 10 year old MS 
Bluetooth Notebook Mouse 5000

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Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Mouse right-click works intermittently

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On 8/22/20 9:13 AM, Paul Smith wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 2:02 PM Tom Horsley  wrote:
>>> I actually have had the same issue using GNOME for quite some times,
>>> even changed my mouse thinking it was the culprit. So yes maybe it's a
>>> generic issue?
>> I recently switched to a wireless mouse and sometimes see this.
>> I never saw it with my old wired usb mouse. Is everyone else also
>> seeing this with a wireless mouse? Sometimes when I reboot I
>> get errors about unable to properly talk to the usb device
>> which is the wireless mouse dongle and I have to unplug and
>> plug it back in, at which point it works flawlessly.
>>
>> I've been meaning to move the mouse to a windows box and use
>> it for a while to see if the same thing happens there, but
>> haven't worked up the energy to try that yet.
> Thanks, Tom and Frederic. My mouse is a wired (not wireless) one.
>
> Paul

FWIW, I've been using a ten year old Microsoft Wireless Mouse 5000.
All of that time on Linux, most of the time on Fedora & RH.
No problems at all

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Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Fedora Zoom? -

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On 8/3/20 1:28 PM, Richard Shaw wrote:
On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 11:53 AM Kevin Becker 
mailto:ke...@kevinbecker.org>> wrote:
Zoom is available for Fedora as a flatpak via flathub

I've used the rpm zoom provides with good results.
same here, and I use it quite often.

Thanks,
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Re: EXTERNAL: Re: printing probblems

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On 4/22/20 8:36 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 2020-04-22 20:30, Angelo Moreschini wrote:
>> Did you install the printer using hp-setup?
>>
>> After I reisnalled cups (using sudo yum install cups)
>> I didn't install the printer (tha it is auto detected)
> Have you considered deleting the printer?
>
> And, since it is an HP printer, using hp-setup to create a new printer?
>
> FWIW, I haven't had any issues with HP printers when using the hplip tools.
nor have I
>

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Re: EXTERNAL: Re: alacarte in fc32

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On 4/7/20 1:25 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 4/7/20 3:08 AM, Saša Janiška wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> what has happened with Alacarte (menu editor for GNOME) in fc32?
>>
>> Will it become available eventually?
>
> No, it was retired.
What takes it's place?
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Re: EXTERNAL: Re: What does mktime return????

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On 12/18/19 10:24 AM, Walter H. wrote:
Hello,

I tried your programme on my system (other linux distribution), and got the 
same result;
even on windows the same results;

but this is interesting

# date --date="Dec 1 00:00:00 2019" +"%s"
1575154800

# date --date="Nov 30 23:59:59 2019" +"%s"
1575154799

there you have this 1 second difference;

I'd say mktime seens to be buggy ...

Walter

On 18.12.2019 15:17, Jouk Jansen wrote:
Hi All,

I'm strugling with the C-function mktime. According to the man-pages it
returns "seconds  since  the Epoch". I tried to use this functions to get
differnces from two date-times , but was could not interpret the result.
When trying to get the diffrence between 30 Nov 2019 23:59:59 and 1 Dec 2019
00:00:00 (see code below) I expected to find 1 second difference but I find:
1577746799 1577833200 -86401
As output of the sample program. (and not 1577833199 1577833200 -1)

How should I read "seconds  since  the Epoch"
Is the output of mktime correct?
  (I also tried 31 Nov and got the expected 1 second)
  (should mktime not give an error for 31 Nov??)



  Regards
 Jouk






Code :


#include
#include

main()
{
struct tm time_str , time_str2;

time_str.tm_sec = 59; //30 Nov 2019 23:59:59
time_str.tm_min = 59;
time_str.tm_hour = 23;
time_str.tm_mday = 30;
time_str.tm_mon = 11;
time_str.tm_year = 119;
time_str.tm_isdst = 0;

time_str2.tm_sec = 0; // 1 Dec 2019 00:00:00
time_str2.tm_min = 0;
time_str2.tm_hour = 0;
time_str2.tm_mday = 1;
time_str2.tm_mon = 12;
time_str2.tm_year = 119;
time_str2.tm_isdst = 0;

printf( "%d %d %d\n" , mktime(&time_str ) , mktime(&time_str2 ) ,
   mktime(&time_str ) - mktime(&time_str2 ) );

}


remember that the month values (tm_mon) go from 0 to 11.

change tm_mon for November to 10 and for December to 11 and you get the 
expected result.



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Re: EXTERNAL: Re: sshd on F31 : strange problem with login with keys's

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On 11/26/19 8:32 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 2019-11-26 20:27, Jouk Jansen wrote:
>> I'm trying to setup an ssh-server on F31 which logs a user in without a
>> password, but with a key-exchange. I generated all the keys and placed them
>> in the right locations. It still asks for the password.
>>
>> Than comes the strange : I stoped the service by "systemctl stop sshd" and
>> did run "as root" /usr/sbin/sshd. And than it just worked. (tried to stop
>> and start with systemctl again made the passwordless login fail again)
>>
>> Question : why does is work with just running "/usr/sbin/sshd" but not with
>> "systemctl start sshd" ?
> One thing you should check is the permissions on the ~/.ssh on the machine 
> you're trying to connect
> to.  If it is not 700 you will get the behavior you cite.
I've seen this on several fedora updates.  Something changes permissions
on ~/.ssh and then what you see happens
>
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Re: EXTERNAL: Re: 24 hour time in Thunderbird -

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On 11/16/19 11:27 AM, Stephen Perkins wrote:

< Well that's another failed attempt at fixing my problem, I am not comfortable 
in French although it does work for me, it changes the theme in places to a 
blavk on white

<  display that I need a magnifier to read? I also need an English spell 
checker running,  am a lousy typist. I'll just deal with the stupid AM/PM time 
display for today.

-
< Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA

A simple solution that worked for me with Thunderbird 68.1.1 on Fedora 30 
(X86_64):

to ~/.bashrc add the line

export LC_TIME="C"

log out and back in and Thunderbird shows 24-hour format.

that worked here, just had to set time formatting back to regional in 
preferences

HTH

Stephen

On Sat, 16 Nov 2019 at 10:05, Bob Goodwin 
mailto:bobgood...@fastmail.us>> wrote:


On 11/16/19 9:22 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:

Le 16/11/2019 à 07:13, Ed Greshko a écrit :
It has moved to "Edit--->Preferences--->Advanced"

.

Well that works, but to my surprise English UK seems to still use AM/PM 12 
hours? French does 24 hour time however I don't know if it will let me use an 
Englsh spell checker, it seems it should ?

If they can have all those language options why notan English 34 hourrs? /get 
frustrated with Thunderbird but it's the only one I've tried that does most of 
what I want, however that advantage seems to shrink wuth each "improvemed" 
version they produce./


,

Well that's another failed attempt at fixing my problem, I am not comfortable 
in French although it does work for me, it changes the theme in places to a 
blavk on white display that I need a magnifier to read? I also need an English 
spell checker running,  am a lousy typist. I'll just deal with the stupid AM/PM 
time display for today.

-
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Re: EXTERNAL: Re: F30: latest kernel no external monitor

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On 9/20/19 4:44 AM, Gianluca Cecchi wrote:
On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 10:30 AM Gianluca Cecchi 
mailto:gianluca.cec...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 1:54 PM Gianluca Cecchi 
mailto:gianluca.cec...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello,
executed "dnf update" after about 15 days of inactivity.
Updates has brought in kernel 5.2.8-200.fc30.x86_64
But after reboot the system is not able to detect (in the sense of no monitor 
connection at all seen) when connecting a 24" Dell monitor using an usb-c to 
hdmi adapter on my laptop and then connecting an HDMI-to-dvi cable to the 
monitor, that I normally used before.
Tried to reboot two times without effect.
As soon as I restart with previous kernel 5.1.20-300.fc30.x86_64, external 
monitor detection and usage is ok again.
This is in default Gnome environment and Wayland.
Eg in gnome terminal I have:
$ loginctl show-session 2 -p Type
Type=wayland
and
$ echo $WAYLAND_DISPLAY
wayland-0

Anyone else with similar problems?
If you point me on how to get related log lines in journal in both working and 
not working configurations, I can get more info.
Seen on several threads that with Xwayland and gnome-shell not so easy to see 
startup log files...



[snip]

In the mean time I opened this bugzilla:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1744905

I see at least two other new messages with problems related to external 
monitors...

Unfortunately the problem still persisted across all kernel updates and also 
with latest kernel installed today: kernel-5.2.15-200.fc30.x86_64
Currently I'm forced to use the latest 5.1 kernel that I downloaded and used 
before updating to 5.2: kernel-5.1.20-300.fc30.x86_64
Verified also on 2 other external monitors with same effect. All 3 were Dell 
Monitors, even if quite different models, I don't know if this can make any 
difference
No feedback on bugzilla page yet and no other posters.. if anyone also has this 
kind of problem is invited to post there so to get more attention
Of course this is with i915 kernel module and possibly other ones, like nouveau 
and what used for Amd gpu, are working ok with external monitors and 5.2 kernels

Thanks,

Gianluca


I can't replicate your case exactly, but

The pc is a thinkpad x280
uname -r: 5.2.9-200.fc30.x86_64
video adapter is usb-c to vga and cable is vga to the monitor's vga input
external monitor is DELL P2214H, 1920x1080

$ loginctl show-session 2 -p Type
Type=wayland
$ echo $WAYLAND_DISPLAY
wayland-0

lspci | grep VGA
VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation UHD Graphics 620 (rev 07)

bootup is just what you want/expect, i.e. both monitors up and useable

I also have 5.2.8 & 5.2.5 kernels.  Results are the same with them

I intend to get a usb-c to hdmi video adapter in the next day or two.
Let me know if it would be useful to repeat these using that.

HTH




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Re: EXTERNAL: F30, XFCE google-earth-pro problem

[Wells, Roger K. via users]

On 5/20/19 9:28 AM, ja wrote:
> I have a newly installed F30, XFCE system.
>
> google-earth-pro will run from a terminal (user fred) but has a 50 second
> startup and closedown time.

Observing exactly this but on gnome 3.32.2.
It began with an upgrade from F29 to F30 and is observed on either
Wayland or Xorg

>
> Tests have shown that su - fred  and then running google-earth-pro
> avoids the delay.
> env shows greatly fewer environmental variables are set in the "su - fred" 
> case.
>
> This led to an alternative approach of un-setting some environmental 
> variables.
> (without the "su - fred" step)
>
> unset XDG_RUNTIME_DIR; unset DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS; google-earth-pro
> The delay is no longer present and google-earth-pro appears to run OK.
>
> Has anyone any idea what is going on here?
>
> How important are those environmental variables?
>
>
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Re: EXTERNAL: Re: issues with F30 Live USB stick

[Wells, Roger K. via users]

On 5/2/19 1:01 PM, Ulf Volmer wrote:
> On 02.05.19 18:32, Greg Woods wrote:
>
>> Anybody else seen this? Has anyone successfully created an F30 Live USB
>> stick?
> Just use dd to write the iso directly to the USB device. Assuming, you
> USB drive is sdb:
>
> sudo dd if=Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-30-1.2.iso bs=1M of=/dev/sdb
>
> Works for me.
me too
>
> Best regards
> Ulf
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Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Tip: VLC and zero length files

[Wells, Roger K. via users]

On 1/2/19 4:57 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 1/3/19 1:18 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
>> VLC 5.0.3
>> Fedora 29, x64
>> Xfce 4.13
>>
>> Heads up: if you read a zero length *.mp4 file with VLC, the error
>> windows will pop up, start to shimmer, eventually kill VLC,
>> and you will get Logged out -- losing everything you had open.
>> You can log back in, but nothing seems to work quite right until
>> you reboot.
>>
>> I am not reporting it to VLC as they act like such jerks
>> when you do. 
> Where did you get vlc?
>
> Running vlc from rpmfusion.  vlc-3.0.5-4.fc29  and the others the same under 
> a VM
>
> Not able to reproduce.  Get the pop-up and that's it.
>
Same here.
rpm -q vlc
vlc-3.0.5-4.fc29.x86_64
uname -r
4.19.10-300.fc29.x86_64
ls -l zero.rpm
-rw-rw-r--. 1 roger roger 0 Jan  2 17:06 zero.mp4
Get the pop-up and that's it.

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Re: EXTERNAL: Re: printing from thunderbird broken

[Wells, Roger K. via users]

On 9/12/18 4:44 PM, sixpack13 wrote:
> can't confirm.
> printing from TB is as usual.

same here
uname -r
4.17.19-200.fc28.x86_64
thunderbird-60.0-1.fc28.x86_64

> rpm -qa|grep -iE 'thunder|cups'|sort
>
> cups-2.2.6-19.fc28.x86_64
> cups-client-2.2.6-19.fc28.x86_64
> cups-filesystem-2.2.6-19.fc28.noarch
> cups-filters-1.20.0-9.fc28.x86_64
> cups-filters-libs-1.20.0-9.fc28.x86_64
> cups-libs-2.2.6-19.fc28.x86_64
> cups-pk-helper-0.2.6-5.fc28.x86_64
> gutenprint-cups-5.2.14-1.fc28.x86_64
> python3-cups-1.9.72-20.fc28.x86_64
> thunderbird-60.0-1.fc28.x86_64
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