Re: Migrating RAID1 to new system
On 11Jul2019 08:17, Alex wrote: However, the RAID arrangement is proprietry and different to mdadm and/or LVM. OTOH, I did once spent an hour on the phone with a very helpful LSI engineer trying to rescue one here. So, using the LSI in JOB (just a bunch of discs) mode, yes? No, I believe it's RAID5 - 8x240GB. I thought you said earlier that it was managed with mdadm, so I took it to be a JBOD in the LSI controlled and a RAID5 in mdadm. I'm planning on replacing those disks with 4x1TB disks, which would work on the onboard controllers. I still can't decide whether to continue to use the LSI controller. Your call. They're a bit more directly visible and manageable under mdadm. If you're not using the LSI controller then the drives can also be physically moved to a machine with no LSI controller should that become necessary (thinking DR here; but you've got backups?) Actually, if I did use the onboard, I could use mdadm, take the system down to perform the initial install, and sync the data from the LSI disks while the system is running, then shut it down briefly to do the final sync after the bulk of the data has transferred. Yes, that would work I think. Which would migrate you off the LSI controller, yes? To pure mdadm with on board SATA? The LSI stuff is pretty good in my experience. Ran them in several IBM boxes and also at home for years. I am inclined to believe it will perform better than mdadm. It should. The OS sees one drive for the raidset and does one I/O for a write; the other I/O to the individual drives is done by the LSI controller. If mdadm manages the RAID it must update each backend drive itself from the OS. It doesn't change the underlying physical drive behaviour, but it moves managing the RAID and the writes requires out of the OS. >Using the LSI makes me nervous - there have been one or two times when >I almost lost the array, but I'll probably keep using it. The important thing is to be able to monitor them. I've some scripts for that - put them in a 5 minute cronjob. Or in your monitoring system eg nagios. Then you will get timely emails if a problem occurs. That sounds awesome. Do you know where I can find those scripts? I forgot they used to be referred to as megaraid. I've attached "mcli" and "nagios-report-mcli". "mcli" invokes the cs.app.megacli python module conveniently. The nagios script wraps mcli and produces a nagios compatible status line. I wrote the cs.app.megacli Python module for this (see PyPI) and have some small auxiliary scripts which wrap it. Can you forward it on? The module is here: https://pypi.org/project/cs.app.megacli/ It is Python 2 specific because historically it needed to run on the native Python of some RHEL4 and RHEL5 machines. I've a TODO to make a Python 3 version. Install is "pip install cs.app.megacli". Or use the python file I've also attached. This is dependent on the LSI MegaRAID Linux software. Which you used to be able to download, but I can't find a download for it any more. I can ship you an RPM or a tarball of the unpacked tree for x86_64 separately. The Python code expects this installed at /opt/MegaRAID. I have another system on the same network with like 7TB of data available. I'm thinking that I sync a copy of the user data to that system, and create a virtual machine on that system with the mail server config that somehow mounts the directory on the host system. You could make a virtual drive for the VM in the usual way (distinct from the VM's OS virtual drive). Copy to it via the VM. You could NFS mount the original system's volume to the VM and do a regular cp-then-rsync. Disable the production system and change the IP of the virtual machine to assume that of the mail server. Maybe allocate a service IP for the mail system instead (just an extra IP _not_ officially assigned to a particular physical machine). _Add_ it to the original system well ahead of the move. Update DNS for the mail to point at the service address (hoping your clients use a logical name like "mail" or "smtp" etc, not the personal hostname of the mail system). Wait for all connections to be using the service address. When the new address is in play, sync your replacement VM. (Of course, get the copy and a mostly-sync underway while this is playing out.) Users will then access this temporary system while I rebuild the production system and transfer back the data. At cutover: down the mail services. Sync latest volume state to the VM (from the VM so that it can be root at the VM end). Drop the service address from the main machine, add it to the VM. Do final sync. Check things, then bring up mail services on the VM. Once the initial bulk transfer has occurred, shut down services on the virtual machine and sync the remaining user data back to the production system. Yep. And move the service address back. Does this sound feasible? I think so. I'd get it all dow
Set system time to 24 hour format (military time)
Hi All; I'm running Fedora 24 (KDE Spin). How can I set the system time format to be 24 hour time? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Filesystem for backup system
On 13Oct2016 14:29, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 10/12/2016 03:57 PM, c...@zip.com.au wrote: Except it the wildest scenarios, XFS fsks at mount, almost immediately. Is that different from fsck.ext4 replaying the journal? Not fundamentally. Go and cat (yes, cat) the fsck.xfs command. OK. I'm not sure what you think I'll learn by doing so. Only that it is a shell script that handles the typically used boot options, but doesn't do anything else. fsck.xfs exists because Linux's "fsck" supports multiple filesystems and Irix's did not. On Irix, fsck was exclusively for EFS. XFS used xfs_check and xfs_repair. When XFS was ported to Linux, the tools were not renamed; instead fsck.xfs was put in place to direct users to the correct tool when they ran "fsck -t xfs". And when they really need a repair that the XFS mount process doesn't accomplish. None of that makes XFS immune to corruption, nor reduce the time or the memory required to fix an XFS filesystem if it's damaged. Of course not, though I have the impression that the repair tool is less memory intensive than the ext4 equivalent. "Never" is indeed not _literally_ true, but it is effectively true, far far far far more than is so with ext4. Ext4 really needs fsck after an unclean unmount, and it is not cheap for large filesystems. With journaling and write barriers in place, I don't know any reason that ext4 would be any more affected by a power loss than XFS would be, and having had to perform recoveries on both, I don't find one to be significantly better than the other. Fair enough. We may be into the realm where a question on an XFS list may be more illuminating about the modern state of play. Thus, my advice remains that users should test both because they do differ in performance in different workloads. If one will be faster under normal operation, 99.95% of the time, and require slightly more down time to recover in the other .05% of the time, then selecting the option which is superior 99.95% of the time is a perfectly rational thing to do. That's especially true of backup systems where down time does not carry the same impact as down time in a production system does. The two are like night and day in the recovery scenario (== xfs pretty much never needs manual recovery, and recover is very fast). That seems subjective. I've personally had to recover more XFS filesystems than I have ext4 filesystems, and I use ext4 filesystems more often. My subjective experience is quite different than yours. Apparently so. I've had very good experiences with XFS, and plan to stick with it at present. Out of interest, how recent was your need to recover XFS, and what were the circumstances that caused it to be necessary? Cheers, Cameron Simpson ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Filesystem for backup system
On 12Oct2016 09:40, Mike Wright wrote: On 10/12/2016 08:53 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote: On 10.10.2016, Gordon Messmer wrote: Ext4 is probably a better option for a filesystem with a large number of small files. XFS continues to be slower for metadata operations. It was, some years ago. This is no longer the case. Given those, would you go so far as to recommend xfs in lieu of ext4 for general usage? Yes. Cameron Simpson ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Filesystem for backup system
On 12Oct2016 08:40, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 10/12/2016 06:40 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: "Never needs fsck"? What crazy alternate reality do you live in? It's only slightly exaggerated. XFS has online fsck, which means that the kernel can fix some errors as it encounters them. Others... well, I *have* seen XFS require an offline fsck on a Linux NAS appliance, so I know "never" isn't literally true. Except it the wildest scenarios, XFS fsks at mount, almost immediately. Go and cat (yes, cat) the fsck.xfs command. Its data processes are reliable and well behaved, and it is extensively tested. "Never" is indeed not _literally_ true, but it is effectively true, far far far far more than is so with ext4. Ext4 really needs fsck after an unclean unmount, and it is not cheap for large filesystems. The two are like night and day in the recovery scenario (== xfs pretty much never needs manual recovery, and recover is very fast). Even mkfs is light night and day with xfs vs ext4. Cheers, Cameron Simpson ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Filesystem for backup system
On 10Oct2016 15:59, Michael Cronenworth wrote: On 10/10/2016 03:50 PM, Alex wrote: Where did you read that? AFAIK the default continues to be ext4. I thought I recalled it being the default during install the last time I performed one. The Fedora Server installation defaults to XFS. Workstation defaults to ext4. For your use case either filesystem will work. Use what you are comfortable with. Both are stable, supported, and will give you full performance from your setup. Use XFS. It is stable; never needs fsck. If ext4 needs to repair it will take days/weeks on a filesystem that size, and need insane amounts of RAM (if the NAS is hosting this, it may not have much RAM). Both will work until you need to fsck (eg power outage or other instant/unclean shutdown). After that, you will wish you were using XFS. Cheers, Cameron Simpson ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: bash/regex question..
On 13Sep2016 14:27, bruce wrote: I'm doing 100s/1000s of these.. Still a smallish number. but.. the othe parts of th operation are longer/more compute expensive.. this is essentially noise in the scheme of things.. and i'm fairly certain the resource usage is a wash as well for the diff approaches If you have speed issues, one thing to keep in mind is that with the shell, fork/exec will often outweigh any compute cost in a regexp. The core deal with interpreted languages (shell, perl, python etc) is that you should try to minimise the cost of the interpretation. So the classic shell example looks like this: # expensive, fires off separate commands per file for f in *.txt do cat "$f" | awk | sed | ... done vs: for f in *.txt do file-specific-awk ... done | generic-sed | ... i.e. a theoretical example where you can run a whole bunch of things though a single sed or whataver outside the loop. Obvious very dependent on your exact problem, but I hope the approach is evident. There are flipsides to this of course; if the code becomes unreadable or unmaintainable then the programmer cost can exceed the actual real world runtime benefit, particularly for once-off tasks. Re the unreadable bit, that is one of my rules of thumb for switching languages: when the task is no longer clearly and succinctly expressed. Cheers, Cameron Simpson -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: OT: what does this expression mean?
On 13Sep2016 16:54, todd zullinger wrote: for f in *.mp4; do ffmpeg -i "$f" -c:a libmp3lame "${f%.mp4}.mp3"; done While we're at it, I might suggest that "${f%.mp4}.mp3" isn't as clear as "${f/.mp4/.mp3}" for this particular for loop. I think that's a little subjective; I personally prefer the former. The pattern substitution method ${parameter/pattern/string} will also look more familiar to anyone who has used s/pattern/subst/ in vim, perl, etc, which is a small bonus. for f in *.mp4; do ffmpeg -i "$f" -c:a libmp3lame "${f/.mp4/.mp3}"; done Yeah, until you try to make it robust. Eg against a filename like "temp4-take9.mp4", which your example will transmute into "temp3-take9.mp4", not quite the plan. Whereas the "f%.mp4" thing will behave correctly because of the greedy match. (And yeah, if we were playing shell golf, it could be shortened to "${f/%4/3}" -- but that's certainly not as legible. Agreed there. Saving those few characters is likely not worth having to remember that /% means "match at the end of the parameter." Although, using the % to anchor the substitution would be the most prudent thing even when using the full extension, in case you had a file with .mp4 elsewhere in the name. ;) Ah, you've thought about this. I tend to feel that glob-based things are better than regexp based things for filename work, most of the time. Globs are simpler (albeit less powerful) patterns and shorter and more readable and often more intuitive. (When they're enough.) Cheers, Cameron Simpson -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: bash/regex question..
On 12Sep2016 19:37, bruce wrote: Simple question. Got a basic string.. http://venturacollege.bncollege.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/BNCBHomePage?storeId=78236&campusId=78236&userId=-1002&catalogId=10001&ddkey=http:BNCBMultiCampusPageCmd trying to get the internal sub-string "78236" I can remove the beginning portion, but can't figureout the rest of the regex to remove the subsequent chars.. awk -F': ' '{print $2}' | tail -1 | sed 's/.*storeId=\(.*\).&/\1/' With the URL on stdin: tr '?&' '\012\012' | sed -n 's/^storeId=//p' With the URL in a variable: url='http://venturacollege.bncollege.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/BNCBHomePage?storeId=78236&campusId=78236&userId=-1002&catalogId=10001&ddkey=http:BNCBMultiCampusPageCmd' store_id=$( printf '%s\n' | tr '?&' '\012\012' | sed -n 's/^storeId=//p' ) i.e. break the URL into the right pieces, one per line. Get the appropriate line. Cheers, Cameron Simpson -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: the "ls" command line
On 25Aug2016 21:05, Roberto Ragusa wrote: On 08/24/2016 08:36 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: Remember that the globs ("*") are interpreted by the shell, not ls. In fact, interesting things can happen if you have a file called "-l". (and this is why we have option "--") Very true. And for commands without "--" support, such as ffmpeg, we have the cautious workaround: prefix globs so that they do not look like options, eg: ./* Cheers, Cameron Simpson -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: the "ls" command line
On 23Aug2016 18:00, Markus Schönhaber wrote: what is the difference between these two commands ? ls /* and ls /*/ --- these two commands give me different output: ls -ld /* =--->list all the files inside the directory (both files and subdirectories) ls -ld /*/ =---> give me the list of only the (subdirectory inside the directory) The difference is not caused by ls but rather by the way the shell does the filename expansion. In case it isn't clear, only directories will have stuff inside them (/a/b...) so /*/ will only match directries. BTW: If you're using bash, it will by default show you the expanded list of filenames that match the pattern if you press Ctrl-X * when the cursor is positioned directly after the pattern. And in any shell you can investigate this kind of thing like this: echo /* echo /*/ and see exactly what command is dipatched like this: ( set -x ; ls /* ) ( set -x ; ls /*/ ) Using a subshell here purely so that the "set -x" applies only to the only command. Cheers, Cameron Simpson -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: keycode
On 20Aug2016 14:55, Tom Horsley wrote: On Sat, 20 Aug 2016 20:47:43 +0200 Patrick Dupre wrote: What are the recommendations ? I seem to have luck putting .sh files in the directory /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/ Of course, those files will run for all users (which isn't a problem if there is only one user :-). I think modern X11 honours ~/.xinitrc.d also. Certainly on this Mac (haven't got a handy Linux desktop to test with at present). Be sure to make it an executable script with the #!/bin/sh line at the top. Indeed, if only to make your editor syntax aware. Though I think these files are sourced because you can set environment variables in them and have them stick. Eg source ~/.profile from one. And yes, xmodmap is probably the go, _unless_ you want the key mapping to apply only to one app (eg xterm). To the latter, xterm has key mappings available in its .Xdefaults parameters. For example, my xterm stuff has this at the bottom: XTerm*.VT100.Translations: #override \n\ F1 : string(0x1b) \n \ F10 : secure() \n \ KP_End : scroll-forw(100,page) \n \ KP_Prior : scroll-back(1,halfpage) \n \ KP_Next : scroll-forw(1,halfpage) \n\ End : scroll-forw(100,page) \n \ CtrlUp : scroll-back(1,line) \n \ CtrlDown : scroll-forw(1,line) \n\ Prior: scroll-back(1,halfpage) \n \ Next : scroll-forw(1,halfpage) \n\ Meta : string(0x1b) insert() \n\ Alt : string(0x1b) insert() \n\ BackSpace: string(0x08) \n \ Shift: ignore() \n\ Shift : insert-selection(PRIMARY,CUT_BUFFER0)\n\ : ignore() \n\ : insert-selection(PRIMARY,CUT_BUFFER0)\n\ Shift: ignore() \n\ Shift : string("us ") insert-selection(PRIMARY,CUT_BUFFER0) string("\n") \n\ ~Ctrl ~Meta : ignore()\n\ ~Ctrl ~Meta: ignore()\n ! XTerm*VT100.translations:#override Shift'F1':insert("hi guys") ! XTerm*VT100.translations:#override Ctrl'U':uphalfscreen()\nCtrl'D'downhalfscreen() Note that the last two lines are commented out experiments. Cheers, Cameron Simpson -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: curl - sys env vars in a curl statement
On 08Aug2016 16:36, Joe Zeff wrote: On 08/08/2016 04:32 PM, c...@zip.com.au wrote: On 08Aug2016 16:18, Joe Zeff wrote: On 08/08/2016 04:12 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote: >1aa.lwp on its own. The shell will open and trucate it, then close it, running no command. Thus, an empty file. No. What you will get is this: bash: laa.lwp: command not found What you need is this: touch laa.lwp You must have a very weird shell. I've been doing this literally for decades. Works perfectly. I see the difference: I'd left out the redirection, which made laa.lwp into a command. Thanx for the correction, because that's an elegant way to create an empty file. Also: >>file# safety create file (doesn't truncate it) /dev/rst0# write termination file to tape, then rewind # (convention: empty file indicates end of tape) and of course the "exec" with no command variation for opening files by the current shell and not letting go: exec 3>>logfile # attach fd 3 to a log file from now on ... script stuff ... echo blah >&3 # write to log ... script stuff ... exec 3<&- # close log file etc. Cheers, Cameron Simpson -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: curl - sys env vars in a curl statement
On 08Aug2016 16:18, Joe Zeff wrote: On 08/08/2016 04:12 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote: >1aa.lwp on its own. The shell will open and trucate it, then close it, running no command. Thus, an empty file. No. What you will get is this: bash: laa.lwp: command not found What you need is this: touch laa.lwp You must have a very weird shell. I've been doing this literally for decades. Works perfectly. Cheers, Cameron Simpson -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: OT: grep and regex patterns
On 13Jul2016 22:03, Mike Wright wrote: OK, thanks everybody. Had to use egrep. This works: PATTERN='https?://[^/]*\.in(/.*)*' egrep $PATTERN file.of.links > links.in You need quotes around $PATTERN when you use it, thus: egrep "$PATTERN" file.of.links > links.in You may be getting away with it here, but another pattern may well be broken up by the shell on whitespace. Not to mention globbing (unquoted askerisks and question marks, etc). Covers cases with https and where nothing follows the .in Your: (/.*)* is better written: (/.*)? i.e. it is there or it is not. As it happens the "*" form you used will be matched as efficiently in this case, but there are plenty of patterns where using "*" instead of something more constrained can lead to exponential cost as the regexp engine tries many many more combinations as it attempts to match. Always write these things as pickily/conservatively as possible. The other nit is that you should use $lowercase variable names in the shell instead of $UPPERCASE names for script local variables which you do not intend to export. This is a good practice thing, but quite important for reasons I can explain at length is requested. Cheers, Cameron Simpson -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: ssh again..
On 12Jul2016 17:32, bruce wrote: so on the box1 i have the priv key on box1 i have have ssh-agent on box1 With your private key loaded. "ssh-add -l" will tell you if it is. on box1, in the config file, do i need to have box2 To easily connect, perhaps. To connect with special options by default, yes. But as long as it is in DNS, it can be reached by name. And if it isn't, it can be reached by IP. on box2 I don't need to have the pub key from box1, but i do have to have what??? On box2 you need the public key from box1 in the authorized_keys for whatever user you will be coming in as on box2. The private key: local to box1, used to prove you are who you say you are. The public key: in the authorized_keys file on every target box, used to define who may connect. and then whatever I have on box2, gets replicated on the other boxes in the "chain" Every "target" box needs the _public_ half of the keypair in the .ssh/authorized_keys file for whatever user you come in as. If you have ssh-agent forwarding on, your ssh-agent service will be propagated through every ssh connection. Do this by putting: Host * ForwardAgent yes in the "*" Host clause at the _bottom_ of your .ssh/config file. Assuming you want this on by default, which is a common choice for interactive users. It is off by default, and you can imagine why you might not want to on _by default_ in many circumstances. So that is a security policy decision for you. You might make this decision per host, and only forward the agent to hosts you decide to trust with it. Note also that you need to enable ssh-agent forwarding in the .ssh/config on every host which will expect to forward the agent to the next box. It is consulted by the _local_ "ssh" command to decide these things. Cheers, Cameron Simpson I think I'm seeing part of this... On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 4:13 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 07/12/2016 10:44 AM, Go Canes wrote: No, they don't. Private keys belong on your closest system, on an encrypted volume. Often, you will only need one. If the OP uses ssh to go from system1:user1 to system2:user2, and then wants to use ssh to go from system2:user2 to system3:user3, are you saying that only system1:user requires a public key, and that system2:user2 can ssh out without having *any* public key? No, I said "private key". If you are user1@system1 and you use ssh to log in to user2@system2, and if you also have an ssh agent on system1 and instruct ssh to forward a connection to the user2@system2 session, then you don't need a private key in the user2@system2 home directory to connect to user3@system3. You only need to have the public key which corresponds to the private key available to user1@system1 installed for user3@system3. system3 will request ssh authentication from user2@system2, and that request will be forwarded back to the agent at user1@system1, which will answer it. Using agent forwarding, you only need private keys on your workstation, which you presumably have encrypted and otherwise made very secure against an attacker obtaining your key files (which should, themselves, be encrypted key files within the encrypted filesystem). -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: pcregrep question
On 24Jun2016 10:57, bruce wrote: I've got a test file, with the following lines. Basically, I want a grep/regex to traverse the multiple lines to return the lines. ll_=urllib.quote_plus(simplejson.dumps(b2))+"\n" pathchildcount_filep.write(ll_) I've tried a number of attempts.. I thought something similar to the following should work. (but no luck) pcregrep -Mi ".+urllib.quote_plus(simplejson.dumps(b2))(.+\n).+path" foo.py The test file actually has the "\n" chars as text but the regex/grep can ignore it, to focus on getting the two lines.. Had you thought about sed? Untested: sed -n '/^ll_=urllib.quote_plus(simplejson.dumps/,/^pathchildcount_filep.write/p' foo.py (One line, in case your mail read folds it.) I've simplified the regexps, but I'm sure you get the idea. Cheers, Cameron Simpson -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Par2cmdline with non normal characters.
On 14May2016 22:45, Robin Laing wrote: On 14/05/16 21:55, c...@zip.com.au wrote: However, there is a way out. Get your error message above into your terminal, specificly by running your command again to ensure it is exact. Then use cut/paste in your terminal to effect 4 mv commands. So, like this: mv *.part01.rar '' so you're: - using the shell to match the _current_ first file with *.part01.rar - you are typing a single quote, then pasting the filename from the errormessage, then another single quote Provided the desired filenames' quote _is_ an apostrophe and not an ASCII single quote, you should be ok here. This is because your terminal has transcribed the error string from par2, and hopefully that will be usable. This avoids figuring out how to type a weird filename. [...] Well done Cameron. Thank you. Moving the files did help. I don't know why I didn't try that before. With everything else going on today, it must of slipped my mind. I started going in circles. I know I tried to move the files late last night but not with the paste like you suggested. The advantage of the paste is that par2 has recited the filenames for you to your terminal, so cut/paste gets to pick them up again verbatim in whatever encoding is in play. BTW, with the locale the utf-8 bit is what matters for this: it dictates how character codepoints are encoded when written to your terminal and, for locale aware apps, how they are encoded when filename bytes are generated. It also ditates how things like "ls" decode those bytes and decide what is printable or otherwise. The .en-ca stuff is for higher level conventions like language, regional dictionaries, currency symbols, number separators and so forth. This will go in my notes for future reference if it happens again. It is funny that the par2 program had no problem seeing the repair volume files with the glyph but couldn't see the rar files with the glyph. Is it possible you handed par2 the names of the repair files on the command line, but that par2 was getting the rar filenames from the metadata? Cheers, Cameron Simpson -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Par2cmdline with non normal characters.
On 14May2016 18:25, Robin Laing wrote: I am trying to run par2 to repair an archive that has an apostrophe in the name. Not a single quote. This archive was created on Windows. Is there any reason you can't just rename the file by hand, with "mv"? Or is this to fix some automation? File name should be Joe’s file.part01.rar If I do ls I get Joe?s file.part01.rar ls -b I get Joe\302\222s\ file.part01.rar What are your locale settings? What does the output of "locale" say? The locale settings affect several things; in particular it affects: - what ls will show you, because it affects what "ls" considers a printable character - what your terminal displays for various byte sequences (this is driven by the terminal emulator's idea of your local, not your shell, but they should match) - what your keystrokes mean Running par2 *.par2 runs par2 cmdline but all the files are missing and par2 says all the files are missing. Target: "Joe’s file.part01.rar" - missing. Target: "Joe’s file.part02.rar" - missing. Target: "Joe’s file.part03.rar" - missing. Target: "Joe’s file.part04.rar" - missing. That is very weird. Normally, saying "*.rar" should be a totally robust thing to say. On the other hand, it is possible that those strings above are from inside the archive specification, and that is why they are not found: your files need renaming as you anticipate. No matter... Doesn't see the repair files either. How can I escape these characters or run the program? I have searched for a day to see how to run this program. I have seen others ask the same question as well. Is there a way to use 'exec' or another option? I have tried to change the terminal character set with no luck or just haven't found the correct character set yet. I cannot rename the files as the par2 and repair files look for the original file names. I don't even know how to enter the characters in the terminal. I notice if I look at the file name in a graphics file manager (dolphin), I just get a square with some unreadable code in it. That means it is not decoding the filename into characters for which is has a glyph. That just means that Windows was using some other codeset whn it was saving the filenames into the archive. Windows is a bit of a nightmare in this regard. Same if I try to look at it in a directory listing from a program. Am I missing a font set for this and would that make it work better. No. You've got a character encoding issue. However, there is a way out. Get your error message above into your terminal, specificly by running your command again to ensure it is exact. Then use cut/paste in your terminal to effect 4 mv commands. So, like this: mv *.part01.rar '' so you're: - using the shell to match the _current_ first file with *.part01.rar - you are typing a single quote, then pasting the filename from the error message, then another single quote Provided the desired filenames' quote _is_ an apostrophe and not an ASCII single quote, you should be ok here. This is because your terminal has transcribed the error string from par2, and hopefully that will be usable. This avoids figuring out how to type a weird filename. There are other ways to approach this, but if this work it is probably the easiest. As I cannot confirm the language the file was created in, I may be missing the correct font on my system to work with it as well. This is not a font issue. Try the above and report. Cheers, Cameron Simpson -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: data restore after an upgrade?
On 04May2016 16:42, Samuel Sieb wrote: 2) connect one of the old disks to the now new system via a USB to SATA adapter (note the machine only has usb 1.1) mount the disk and copy the data over. That wouldn't be so bad given the amount of data. Even on 1.1? Haven't actually done the math for 25GB of data though. If you can determine which USB ports are on different controllers, you could hook up both drives as RAID and copy faster. Or you could put a USB 2.0 card in the computer. If he's going to do this, put in USB 3.0. It is impressively faster, and if you're upgrading such a component, why not do it properly? It won't make your disc faster, but most drives are well faster than USB 2.0, provided you put them in an suitable enclosure. Cheers, Cameron Simpson -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: SELINUX Problem (Firefox Create access on rawip_socket)
On 05/09/2016 04:36 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 05/09/2016 12:19 PM, CS DBA wrote: Thoughts? Is this a bug? Should I run the setsebool command to allow access? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1230052 What plugins do you have installed? Flash? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org Yes, flash, no other plugins afaik -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: SELINUX Problem (Firefox Create access on rawip_socket)
On 05/09/2016 01:39 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 05/09/2016 12:19 PM, CS DBA wrote: Hi All; I'm running Fedora 23 KDE Spin, After a recent firefox update (I'm now at Firefox 46.0.1) I've been getting these SELINUX alerts: The source process: 57656220436F6E74656E74 Attempted this access: create On this rawip_socket: The alert gives me 2 choices: 1) If I want to use the plugin package: you must turn off SELinux controls on the Firefox plugins. # setsebool -P unconfined_mozilla_plugin_transition 0 2) If I believe that 57656220436F6E74656E74 should be allowed to create access on the Unknown rawip_socket by default: You should report this as a bug. You can generate a local policy module to allow this access. Allow this access for now by executing: # ausearch -c 57656220436F6E74656E74 --raw | audit2allow -M mypol # semodule -i mypol.pp If I click on "Plugin Details" I get this: SELinux is preventing 57656220436F6E74656E74 from create access on the rawip_socket Unknown. Plugin: catchall you want to allow 57656220436F6E74656E74 to have create access on the Unknown rawip_socketIf you believe that 57656220436F6E74656E74 should be allowed create access on the Unknown rawip_socket by default. You should report this as a bug. You can generate a local policy module to allow this access. Allow this access for now by executing: # ausearch -c 57656220436F6E74656E74 --raw | audit2allow -M mypol # semodule -i mypol.pp Thoughts? Is this a bug? Should I run the setsebool command to allow access? Smells fishy. I can't see an Internet website having any legitimate need to open a raw IP socket and I really don't see Firefox needing to do such a thing for normal operations. A web interface to an internal process, perhaps, but not a website. BTW, the digits given, if used as a hex representation of a string, equate to "Web content". Hm. I sure as heck wouldn't enable the boolean or add a policy. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigital ri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 226437340 Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - I haven't lost my mind. It's backed up on tape somewhere, but - - probably not recoverable.- -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org Should I be concerned that my laptop has been compromised? Time to install clamav? Or re-install fedora completely? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
SELINUX Problem (Firefox Create access on rawip_socket)
Hi All; I'm running Fedora 23 KDE Spin, After a recent firefox update (I'm now at Firefox 46.0.1) I've been getting these SELINUX alerts: The source process: 57656220436F6E74656E74 Attempted this access: create On this rawip_socket: The alert gives me 2 choices: 1) If I want to use the plugin package: you must turn off SELinux controls on the Firefox plugins. # setsebool -P unconfined_mozilla_plugin_transition 0 2) If I believe that 57656220436F6E74656E74 should be allowed to create access on the Unknown rawip_socket by default: You should report this as a bug. You can generate a local policy module to allow this access. Allow this access for now by executing: # ausearch -c 57656220436F6E74656E74 --raw | audit2allow -M mypol # semodule -i mypol.pp If I click on "Plugin Details" I get this: SELinux is preventing 57656220436F6E74656E74 from create access on the rawip_socket Unknown. Plugin: catchall you want to allow 57656220436F6E74656E74 to have create access on the Unknown rawip_socketIf you believe that 57656220436F6E74656E74 should be allowed create access on the Unknown rawip_socket by default. You should report this as a bug. You can generate a local policy module to allow this access. Allow this access for now by executing: # ausearch -c 57656220436F6E74656E74 --raw | audit2allow -M mypol # semodule -i mypol.pp Thoughts? Is this a bug? Should I run the setsebool command to allow access? Thanks in advance -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 23 multiple CPU cooling/temp errors every day
On 04/13/2016 10:25 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 8:55 AM, CS DBA wrote: Thanks for the feedback, I've installed thermald, added it to /etc/rc.d/rc.local and so far have not seen a single cpu temp alert. That package installs a systemd unit. It shouldn't be necessary to add it to rc.local. Understood, thanks -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 23 multiple CPU cooling/temp errors every day
On 04/12/2016 04:04 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 3:15 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 2:41 PM, CS DBA wrote: Hi all; Daily I see anywhere from 10 - 50 or more of these alerts via abrt. I'm running Fedora 23 (KDE Spin) fully up to date on a Lenovo X1 carbon 3rd gen. In all the alerts I see that the trip temp was exceeded, and then dropped below the trip temp within 1 second. Below is a sample of the output. Should I be concerned? If not can I disable the popup alert? If so, recommendations? should I consider cleaning & replacing the cpu thermal compound? Thanks in advance The kernel log indicates that hardware errors were detected. System log may have more information. The last 20 mcelog lines of system log are: == Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: Please check your system cooling. Performance will be impacted Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: STATUS 8812080b MCGSTATUS 0 Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: MCGCAP 1000c07 APICID 1 SOCKETID 0 Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: CPUID Vendor Intel Family 6 Model 61 Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: Hardware event. This is not a software error. Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: MCE 0 Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: CPU 1 THERMAL EVENT TSC 134e63eb3c2f Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: TIME 1460493199 Tue Apr 12 14:33:19 2016 Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: Processor 1 below trip temperature. Throttling disabled Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: STATUS 8813080a MCGSTATUS 0 Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: MCGCAP 1000c07 APICID 1 SOCKETID 0 Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: CPUID Vendor Intel Family 6 Model 61 Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: Hardware event. This is not a software error. Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: MCE 1 Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: CPU 0 THERMAL EVENT TSC 134e63eb83f6 Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: TIME 1460493199 Tue Apr 12 14:33:19 2016 Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: Processor 0 below trip temperature. Throttling disabled Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: STATUS 8813080a MCGSTATUS 0 Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: MCGCAP 1000c07 APICID 0 SOCKETID 0 Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: CPUID Vendor Intel Family 6 Model 61 I think any MCE event shoudn't be ignored. There's just no way to know if it's bogus or not. I get these on my machine periodically to no ill effect and there's an upstream kernel bug with no response for years. I thought it should be true that the hardware itself won't allow an overheat, either GPU or CPU, and yet these messages suggest otherwise. What I've been doing is using thermald which you can get from copr. https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/hadrons123/thermald/ However, what I just realized is that it says that 1.5.3 version build has failed, and yet rpm -q shows 1.5.3 is on my system. And 'thermald --version' also shows it's 1.5.3 and it's running. But it doesn't seem to be working or producing the same messages it used to, where it'd throttle the CPU automatically. Hmmm any wonder why it's seems hotter than usual. Crap! Well it appears to be doing something still, if I relaunch it in debug mode. I guess maybe the new build is just not as verbose as the previous build, by default. What I still don't get is how the copr build state is failed, and yet I have that same build installed. Thanks for the feedback, I've installed thermald, added it to /etc/rc.d/rc.local and so far have not seen a single cpu temp alert. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Fedora 23 multiple CPU cooling/temp errors every day
Hi all; Daily I see anywhere from 10 - 50 or more of these alerts via abrt. I'm running Fedora 23 (KDE Spin) fully up to date on a Lenovo X1 carbon 3rd gen. In all the alerts I see that the trip temp was exceeded, and then dropped below the trip temp within 1 second. Below is a sample of the output. Should I be concerned? If not can I disable the popup alert? If so, recommendations? should I consider cleaning & replacing the cpu thermal compound? Thanks in advance The kernel log indicates that hardware errors were detected. System log may have more information. The last 20 mcelog lines of system log are: == Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: Please check your system cooling. Performance will be impacted Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: STATUS 8812080b MCGSTATUS 0 Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: MCGCAP 1000c07 APICID 1 SOCKETID 0 Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: CPUID Vendor Intel Family 6 Model 61 Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: Hardware event. This is not a software error. Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: MCE 0 Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: CPU 1 THERMAL EVENT TSC 134e63eb3c2f Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: TIME 1460493199 Tue Apr 12 14:33:19 2016 Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: Processor 1 below trip temperature. Throttling disabled Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: STATUS 8813080a MCGSTATUS 0 Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: MCGCAP 1000c07 APICID 1 SOCKETID 0 Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: CPUID Vendor Intel Family 6 Model 61 Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: Hardware event. This is not a software error. Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: MCE 1 Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: CPU 0 THERMAL EVENT TSC 134e63eb83f6 Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: TIME 1460493199 Tue Apr 12 14:33:19 2016 Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: Processor 0 below trip temperature. Throttling disabled Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: STATUS 8813080a MCGSTATUS 0 Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: MCGCAP 1000c07 APICID 0 SOCKETID 0 Apr 12 14:33:19 F23-host mcelog: CPUID Vendor Intel Family 6 Model 61 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Can't get amarok to play mp3's via GStreamer backend
On 03/14/2016 11:52 AM, Greg Woods wrote: On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 11:39 AM, CS DBA <mailto:cs_...@consistentstate.com>> wrote: rpm -qa | grep -i gstreamer It's working for me, and here's what I have: gstreamer1-plugins-ugly-1.6.3-1.fc23.x86_64 gstreamer1-1.6.3-1.fc23.x86_64 libnice-gstreamer1-0.1.13-2.fc23.x86_64 phonon-backend-gstreamer-4.8.2-5.fc23.x86_64 gstreamer-tools-0.10.36-13.fc23.x86_64 gstreamer1-plugins-good-1.6.3-1.fc23.x86_64 gstreamer1-plugins-bad-freeworld-1.6.3-1.fc23.x86_64 gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free-1.6.3-1.fc23.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-espeak-0.4.0-7.fc23.x86_64 gstreamer1-plugins-base-1.6.3-1.fc23.x86_64 gstreamer1-libav-1.6.3-1.fc23.x86_64 PackageKit-gstreamer-plugin-1.0.11-1.fc23.x86_64 gstreamer-0.10.36-13.fc23.x86_64 phonon-qt5-backend-gstreamer-4.8.2-5.fc23.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-ugly-0.10.19-18.fc23.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.31-15.fc23.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-bad-0.10.23-7.fc22.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.36-13.fc23.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-bad-free-0.10.23-28.fc23.x86_64 Looks like I have a few more gstreamer1-plugins than you do, but I don't know if that's it. --Greg Thanks... that was it, works now -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Can't get amarok to play mp3's via GStreamer backend
I've installed a number of the gstreamer rpm's (running Fedora 23) as shown below. However amarok will not play mp3's unless I change the backend to vlc. Anyone know how to get it to work with the GStreamer backend? Thanks in advance... $ rpm -qa | grep -i gstreamer libnice-gstreamer1-0.1.13-2.fc23.x86_64 gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free-1.6.3-3.fc23.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-bad-0.10.23-7.fc22.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-espeak-0.4.0-7.fc23.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-ugly-0.10.19-18.fc23.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-ugly-devel-docs-0.10.19-18.fc23.noarch gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.31-15.fc23.x86_64 gstreamer-devel-0.10.36-13.fc23.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-good-extras-0.10.31-15.fc23.x86_64 gstreamer1-1.6.3-1.fc23.x86_64 gstreamer-tools-0.10.36-13.fc23.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-good-devel-docs-0.10.31-15.fc23.noarch gstreamer-plugins-base-devel-docs-0.10.36-13.fc23.noarch qt-gstreamer-1.2.0-8.fc23.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-bad-free-devel-0.10.23-29.fc23.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-base-tools-0.10.36-13.fc23.x86_64 phonon-qt5-backend-gstreamer-4.8.2-5.fc23.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.36-13.fc23.x86_64 phonon-backend-gstreamer-4.8.2-5.fc23.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-fc-0.2-11.fc23.x86_64 gstreamer1-plugins-base-1.6.3-1.fc23.x86_64 gstreamer-0.10.36-13.fc23.x86_64 PackageKit-gstreamer-plugin-1.0.11-1.fc23.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-bad-free-extras-0.10.23-29.fc23.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-bad-nonfree-0.10.23-3.fc22.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-bad-free-devel-docs-0.10.23-29.fc23.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-bad-free-0.10.23-29.fc23.x86_64 gstreamer1-plugins-good-1.6.3-1.fc23.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-base-devel-0.10.36-13.fc23.x86_64 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Unexpected system error Notifications
On 03/01/2016 03:12 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 03/01/2016 02:06 PM, CS DBA wrote: All; I'm seeing this notification multiple times a day (from 5 - 30 minutes apart): Unexpected system error The system has encountered a problem and recovered. Name:kernel-core Version: 4.4.2.301.fc23.x86_64 Detected: 3 minutes ago Reported: cannot be reported The kernel log indicates that hardware errors were detected. This is most likely not a software problem. I'm running Fedora 23, KDE Plasma Spin with KDE and Cinnamon installed. On a Lenove Thinkpad X1 Carbon (3rd Gen) I wonder if I should be doing something to trap & report? Have a look at the output of dmesg. It may be apparent there what the issue is. Most likely it's some bad memory or possibly some errant firmware--either in the BIOS or a device (e.g. a wifi card or something). If it's not that, it could be your power supply starting to have issues. Wonky power supplies do lots of odd things. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigital ri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 226437340 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - "If you can't fix it...duct tape it!" -- Tim Allen- -- I see lots of these: [ 8521.141831] mce: [Hardware Error]: Machine check events logged [ 8521.141834] CPU0: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 280) [ 8521.141837] mce: [Hardware Error]: Machine check events logged [ 8521.142829] CPU1: Core temperature/speed normal [ 8521.142830] CPU2: Package temperature/speed normal [ 8521.142831] CPU3: Package temperature/speed normal [ 8521.142834] CPU0: Core temperature/speed normal [ 8521.142836] CPU0: Package temperature/speed normal [ 8521.142838] CPU1: Package temperature/speed normal Should I be concerned? Anything I can do? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Unexpected system error Notifications
All; I'm seeing this notification multiple times a day (from 5 - 30 minutes apart): Unexpected system error The system has encountered a problem and recovered. Name:kernel-core Version: 4.4.2.301.fc23.x86_64 Detected: 3 minutes ago Reported: cannot be reported The kernel log indicates that hardware errors were detected. This is most likely not a software problem. I'm running Fedora 23, KDE Plasma Spin with KDE and Cinnamon installed. On a Lenove Thinkpad X1 Carbon (3rd Gen) I wonder if I should be doing something to trap & report? Thoughts? Thanks in advance -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
No second monitor - Fedora23 KDE spin
All; I'm running Fedora 23, KDE spin. I've fully updated my system. several updated back I could plug in a second monitor, go to system settings --> display and click on the second monitor to 'enable' it However a few updates back this functionality stopped working. Now I plug in the HDMI cable, go to system settings --> Display and it only show the laptop screen. I've installed the Cinnamon desktop and it seems to work flawlessly per auto-adding the second monitor as soon as I plug the HDMI cable in. I suspect this confirms that it's a KDE issue and not a Kernel issue, but I'm not 100% sure. Any thoughts on debugging this? I'm running on a Lenovo X1 Carbon 3rd gen, lspci listing below, thanks in advance $ lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Broadwell-U Host Bridge -OPI (rev 09) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Broadwell-U Integrated Graphics (rev 09) 00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Broadwell-U Audio Controller (rev 09) 00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation Wildcat Point-LP USB xHCI Controller (rev 03) 00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation Wildcat Point-LP MEI Controller #1 (rev 03) 00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation Ethernet Connection (3) I218-LM (rev 03) 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Wildcat Point-LP High Definition Audio Controller (rev 03) 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Wildcat Point-LP PCI Express Root Port #2 (rev e3) 00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Wildcat Point-LP PCI Express Root Port #3 (rev e3) 00:1c.5 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Wildcat Point-LP PCI Express Root Port #6 (rev e3) 00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation Wildcat Point-LP USB EHCI Controller (rev 03) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation Wildcat Point-LP LPC Controller (rev 03) 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation Wildcat Point-LP SMBus Controller (rev 03) 00:1f.6 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation Wildcat Point-LP Thermal Management Controller (rev 03) 04:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 7265 (rev 59) 0a:00.0 SATA controller: Samsung Electronics Co Ltd Device a801 (rev 01) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
rpmfusion updates-testing repos enabled in Fedora23
Hi All I recently did a fresh install on Fedora 23 on a laptop (Lenovo Thinkpad X1 Carbon 3rd edition) I followed up the install by installing the rpmfusion repos. I simply ran the command from the rpmfusion site to enable rpmfusion-free-updates and rpmfusion-nonfree-updates However today I noticed that the rpmfusion-free-updates-testing and rpmfusion-nonfree-updates-testing repos are also enabled. I thought the testing repos were for packages still in testing mode, thus if I want a more stable system they should be disabled. Should I leave the testing repos enabled? Has the rpmfusion repos changed such that I should want this? Thanks in advance -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Scale grub resolution on a HiDef screen (Fedora 23)?
On 11/17/2015 08:49 AM, CS DBA wrote: On 11/13/2015 11:46 PM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 13 November 2015, CS DBA sent: GRUB_GFXMODE='1368x768x32; 1368x768x24; 1280x720x32; 1280x720x24; 800x600x32; 800x600x24; auto' Wild guess: Rather than give a list of compatible resolutions, try just listing a low resolution one that gives you a big chunky display. That, or look into if you can specify the font (a big one). Tried multiple resolutions, as well as a bigger font via these steps: |1) grub2-mkfont -s 32 -o /boot/grub2/DejaVuSansMono.pf2 /usr/share/fonts/dejavu/DejaVuSansMono.ttf| 2) Edit the //etc/default/grub/ file adding a line: |GRUB_FONT=/boot/grub2/DejaVuSansMono.pf2 3) |Update GRUB configuration with: |sudo grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg 4) reboot Still no luck... Anyone have any thoughts? | All; I managed to get the grub boot screen to scale like this: 1) made a new font: # grub2-mkfont --output=/boot/grub2/LiberationSerif-Regular.pf2 -s 36 -v /usr/share/fonts/liberation/LiberationSerif-Regular.ttf 2) made my /boot/default/grub file look like this: GRUB_TIMEOUT=5 GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR="$(sed 's, release .*$,,g' /etc/system-release)" GRUB_DEFAULT=saved GRUB_DISABLE_SUBMENU=true GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT="console" GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="rd.lvm.lv=fedora_f23host/root rd.lvm.lv=fedora_f23host/swap rhgb quiet" GRUB_DISABLE_RECOVERY="true" # GRUB_GFXMODE="1440x900x32;1440x900x24;1024x768x32;1024x768x24;auto" GRUB_GFXMODE=auto GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD=keep GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=keep GRUB_FONT=/boot/grub2/LiberationSerif-Regular.pf2 GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=keep GRUB_TERMINAL=gfxterm 3) Deployed the change to my EFI grub config: # grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/efi/EFI/fedora/grub.cfg So now I have a readable font when the laptop boots, per the boot menu. Now I would like to figure out how to force the subsequent boot information to be a readable font. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks in advance -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Scale grub resolution on a HiDef screen (Fedora 23)?
On 11/13/2015 11:46 PM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 13 November 2015, CS DBA sent: GRUB_GFXMODE='1368x768x32; 1368x768x24; 1280x720x32; 1280x720x24; 800x600x32; 800x600x24; auto' Wild guess: Rather than give a list of compatible resolutions, try just listing a low resolution one that gives you a big chunky display. That, or look into if you can specify the font (a big one). Tried multiple resolutions, as well as a bigger font via these steps: |1) grub2-mkfont -s 32 -o /boot/grub2/DejaVuSansMono.pf2 /usr/share/fonts/dejavu/DejaVuSansMono.ttf| 2) Edit the //etc/default/grub/ file adding a line: |GRUB_FONT=/boot/grub2/DejaVuSansMono.pf2 3) |Update GRUB configuration with: |sudo grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg 4) reboot Still no luck... Anyone have any thoughts? | -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Scale grub resolution on a HiDef screen (Fedora 23)?
On 11/13/2015 10:07 AM, CS DBA wrote: Hi All; I just received a new laptop, the Lenovo X1 Carbon with the 2560x1440 IPS screen. I installed the Fedora 23 KDE spin, changed the screen resolution in : System Settings --> Display and Monitor Then I was able to change the login screen resolution by adding an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file with this content: Section "Screen" Identifier "Default Screen" SubSection "Display" Modes "1280x720" EndSubSection EndSection The login screen and the screen once I'm logged in now look wonderful (and readable) The last bit is the grub menu / grub boot screen. The text is practically microscopic. If I ever need to boot into single user mode and need to actually read the text it's going to be a problem. I found this solution : https://ask.fedoraproject.org/en/question/23526/how-can-i-change-boot-menu-screen-resolution-in-grub2/ But it does not seem to work, I changed my /etc/default/grub file to look like this: GRUB_TIMEOUT=5 GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR="$(sed 's, release .*$,,g' /etc/system-release)" GRUB_DEFAULT=saved GRUB_DISABLE_SUBMENU=true GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT="console" GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="rd.lvm.lv=fedora_f23host/root rd.lvm.lv=fedora_f23host/swap rhgb quiet" GRUB_DISABLE_RECOVERY="true" GRUB_GFXMODE='1368x768x32; 1368x768x24; 1280x720x32; 1280x720x24; 800x600x32; 800x600x24; auto' GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD=keep with no luck... Can someone point me to instructions how to change my grub screen resolution? and ensure that resolution stays in place if I ever need to go into single user mode? Thanks in advance Ran this after the above: grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg still no luck, found a post about efi systems, so I ended up doing this: 1) grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/efi/EFI/fedora/grub.cfg 2) ln -sf /boot/efi/EFI/fedora/grub.cfg /etc/grub2-efi.cfg still no change in my boot menu resolution... thoughts? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Scale grub resolution on a HiDef screen (Fedora 23)?
Hi All; I just received a new laptop, the Lenovo X1 Carbon with the 2560x1440 IPS screen. I installed the Fedora 23 KDE spin, changed the screen resolution in : System Settings --> Display and Monitor Then I was able to change the login screen resolution by adding an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file with this content: Section "Screen" Identifier "Default Screen" SubSection "Display" Modes "1280x720" EndSubSection EndSection The login screen and the screen once I'm logged in now look wonderful (and readable) The last bit is the grub menu / grub boot screen. The text is practically microscopic. If I ever need to boot into single user mode and need to actually read the text it's going to be a problem. I found this solution : https://ask.fedoraproject.org/en/question/23526/how-can-i-change-boot-menu-screen-resolution-in-grub2/ But it does not seem to work, I changed my /etc/default/grub file to look like this: GRUB_TIMEOUT=5 GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR="$(sed 's, release .*$,,g' /etc/system-release)" GRUB_DEFAULT=saved GRUB_DISABLE_SUBMENU=true GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT="console" GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="rd.lvm.lv=fedora_f23host/root rd.lvm.lv=fedora_f23host/swap rhgb quiet" GRUB_DISABLE_RECOVERY="true" GRUB_GFXMODE='1368x768x32; 1368x768x24; 1280x720x32; 1280x720x24; 800x600x32; 800x600x24; auto' GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD=keep with no luck... Can someone point me to instructions how to change my grub screen resolution? and ensure that resolution stays in place if I ever need to go into single user mode? Thanks in advance -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Network Manager oddities
All; I'm running Fedora 22 (KDE Spin) on a Lenovo Thinkpad X1 Carbon. Fedora 22 is great, most everything just works out of the box! I owe much gratitude to the Fedora community! There is one issue I have not been able to fix, it's more of an annoyance than a problem. The network manager takes a long time to connect (about 60seconds) and sometimes it just stops stops trying to connect to a wireless network after a minute or so and when I tell it to connect again it connects right away Below is some /var/log/message output that I see when the wireless spins , stops connecting and then connects after I click on the "connect" button again I'm using this wireless card: Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 7265 (rev 59) Thanks in advance - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - *-- Clicked "connect" for the wireless network* - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Nov 4 11:35:00 F22Host NetworkManager[1112]: (wlp4s0): Activation: starting connection 'ATGWiFi' (2ad558e8-7769-4be1-a17d-90bbec6507cf) Nov 4 11:35:00 F22Host NetworkManager[1112]: (wlp4s0): device state change: disconnected -> prepare (reason 'none') [30 40 0] Nov 4 11:35:00 F22Host NetworkManager[1112]: NetworkManager state is now CONNECTING Nov 4 11:35:00 F22Host NetworkManager[1112]: (wlp4s0): device state change: prepare -> config (reason 'none') [40 50 0] Nov 4 11:35:00 F22Host NetworkManager[1112]: (wlp4s0): Activation: (wifi) access point 'ATGWiFi' has security, but secrets are required. Nov 4 11:35:00 F22Host NetworkManager[1112]: (wlp4s0): device state change: config -> need-auth (reason 'none') [50 60 0] Nov 4 11:35:00 F22Host NetworkManager[1112]: Failed to GDBus.Error:fi.w1.wpa_supplicant1.NotConnected: This interface is not connected: disconnect. Nov 4 11:35:00 F22Host org.kde.kwalletd5: Application ' "kded5" ' using kwallet without parent window! Nov 4 11:35:05 F22Host NetworkManager[1112]: (wlp4s0): device state change: need-auth -> prepare (reason 'none') [60 40 0] Nov 4 11:35:05 F22Host NetworkManager[1112]: (wlp4s0): device state change: prepare -> config (reason 'none') [40 50 0] Nov 4 11:35:05 F22Host NetworkManager[1112]: (wlp4s0): Activation: (wifi) connection 'ATGWiFi' has security, and secrets exist. No new secrets needed. Nov 4 11:35:05 F22Host NetworkManager[1112]: Config: added 'ssid' value 'ATGWiFi' Nov 4 11:35:05 F22Host NetworkManager[1112]: Config: added 'scan_ssid' value '1' Nov 4 11:35:05 F22Host NetworkManager[1112]: Config: added 'key_mgmt' value 'WPA-PSK' Nov 4 11:35:05 F22Host NetworkManager[1112]: Config: added 'psk' value '' Nov 4 11:35:05 F22Host NetworkManager[1112]: Config: added 'proto' value 'WPA RSN' Nov 4 11:35:05 F22Host NetworkManager[1112]: Failed to GDBus.Error:fi.w1.wpa_supplicant1.NotConnected: This interface is not connected: disconnect. Nov 4 11:35:05 F22Host NetworkManager[1112]: Config: set interface ap_scan to 1 Nov 4 11:35:13 F22Host audit: pid=1 uid=0 auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 subj=system_u:system_r:init_t:s0 msg='unit=fprintd comm="systemd" exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=? res=success' Nov 4 11:35:30 F22Host NetworkManager[1112]: (wlp4s0): Activation: (wifi) association took too long, failing activation Nov 4 11:35:30 F22Host NetworkManager[1112]: (wlp4s0): device state change: config -> failed (reason 'ssid-not-found') [50 120 53] Nov 4 11:35:30 F22Host NetworkManager[1112]: NetworkManager state is now CONNECTED_LOCAL Nov 4 11:35:30 F22Host NetworkManager[1112]: (wlp4s0): Activation: failed for connection 'ATGWiFi' Nov 4 11:35:30 F22Host NetworkManager[1112]: (wlp4s0): device state change: failed -> disconnected (reason 'none') [120 30 0] Nov 4 11:35:30 F22Host kernel: IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlp4s0: link is not ready Nov 4 11:35:30 F22Host NetworkManager[1112]: (wlp4s0): supplicant interface state: scanning -> disconnected Nov 4 11:35:30 F22Host NetworkManager[1112]: connectivity: check for uri 'http://fedoraproject.org/static/hotspot.txt' failed with 'Error resolving 'fedoraproject.org': No address associated with hostname' Nov 4 11:35:30 F22Host vmnetBridge: RTM_NEWLINK: name:wlp4s0 index:3 flags:0x1003 Nov 4 11:35:30 F22Host vmnet-natd: RTM_NEWLINK: name:wlp4s0 index:3 flags:0x1003 Nov 4 11:35:30 F22Host NetworkManager[1112]: Failed to GDBus.Error:fi.w1.wpa_supplicant1.NotConnected: This interface is not connected: disconnect. Nov 4 11:35:30 F22Host NetworkManager[1112]: (wlp4s0): supplicant interface state: disconnected -> scanning Nov 4 11:35:30 F22Host firewalld: 2015-11-04 11:35:30 ERROR: UNKNOWN_INTERFACE: 'wlp4s0' is not in any zone Nov 4 11:35:32 F22Host NetworkManager[1112]: (wlp4s0): supplicant interface state: scanning -> disconnected - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Re: laptop external monitor
On 10/27/2015 06:20 AM, Paul Cartwright wrote: I am running f22 on a Dell laptop. I have a 23" monitor plugged in and I always use just the external monitor. Everytime I boot it reverts to 1024 X 680 and I have to go to the dispay settings, uncheck the box for both screens the same, turn off the laptop screen & set the external monitor to 1920 X 1080. there is no xorg.conf file. Here is the xrandr outout: $ xrandr Screen 0: minimum 8 x 8, current 1920 x 1080, maximum 32767 x 32767 LVDS1 connected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 1280x800 59.91 + 1024x768 60.00 800x600 60.3256.25 640x480 59.94 640x400 60.00 TV1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) VGA1 connected primary 1920x1080+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 510mm x 287mm 1920x1080 60.00*+ 1280x1024 75.0260.02 1152x864 75.00 1024x768 75.0860.00 800x600 75.0060.32 640x480 75.0060.00 720x400 70.08 VIRTUAL1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) how do I get this to boot into this mode everytime?? My previous laptop had a similar issue with Fedora 21, I solved it like this... I created a script named 99-xrandr.sh, placed it in/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d and made it executable by all (owned by root), the script looked like this: --- #!/bin/bash /bin/xrandr --newmode "1600x900_60.00" 118.25 1600 1696 1856 2112 900 903 908 934 -hsync +vsync /bin/xrandr --addmode eDP1 1600x900_60.00 /bin/xrandr --output eDP1 --mode 1600x900_60.00 --- You would want to set it up to force VGA1 to be 1920x1080 like so: -- run cvt to get the needed string # cvt 1920 1080 Modeline "1920x1080_60.00" 173.00 1920 2048 2248 2576 1080 1083 1088 1120 -hsync +vsync Then create your script: #!/bin/bash /bin/xrandr --newmode "1920x1080_60.00" 173.00 1920 2048 2248 2576 1080 1083 1088 1120 -hsync +vsync /bin/xrandr --addmode VGA1 1920x1080_60.00 /bin/xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 1600x900_60.00 Not sure if this will work since your external monitor may not be connected at boot time, but worth a shot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Fedora 22 - Change login screen resolution?
Hi All; I'm playing around with Fedora 22 (KDE spin) on a macbook pro retina. I can login and change the screen resolution and it stays permanent. However the login screen is still tiny, anyone know how to change / scale the resolution of the login screen? Thanks in advance -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Laptop screen recommendations - Fedora 22 & KDE
Hi all; I'm currently running Fedora 22 on a Lenovo Thinkpad X1 Carbon (3rd gen). Fedora works well on it, my only complaint is that the screen has a built in anti glare filter and seems washed out, I'm not sure if this is the anti glare filter or if it's that Linux support for the Video card (Intel HD Graphics 5500) is not quite there yet. I'm planning to upgrade to a new X1 Carbon with more RAM and a faster CPU, I run the KDE spin. I wonder if anyone has any experience 'scaling' the KDE display with Fedora 22 (KDE 5 I believe) and what might be the best screen to run? Might the higher res screen fix my washed out screen issues? How well would it work with KDE 5? Other comments? My screen options are as follows: 14.0" FHD (1920 x 1080) with WWAN 14.0" QHD (2560x1440) IPS with WWAN 14.0" QHD (2560x1440) IPS Multi-touch with WWAN Thoughts? Thanks in advance... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Linux on a Mac - restoring via rsync produces an unbootable laptop
Hi all; Recently I installed Fedora 21 on a macbook pro, it worked pretty well. I take regular backups via an rsync of the entire system to an external drive. After an update I had an issue I could not easily resolve so I restored the last rsync of the system. On other laptops this simply returns the system to what it was like at the time of the backup, however on the macbook it rendered it un-bootable, it simply booted to a mac error screen Anyone know what I did wrong? Is there a different approach I need to take for backups? Thanks in advance -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: more external display woes... SOLVED (sort of)
On 09/15/2015 11:46 PM, Robin Laing wrote: On 2015-09-11 20:44, CS DBA wrote: F22 works until I update, closing this thread for a more appropriate one, sent a new email: Fedora 22 - no external monitor after kernel update On 09/11/2015 05:16 PM, CS DBA wrote: All; I bought a new Lenovo X1 Carbon 3rd generation, installed Fedora 21 and neither the mini display port or the HDMI port work per an external display. Installed Fedora 22 as well but it has the same issue. Can someone help me debug this? Thanks in advance What video card? If nVidia, it is most likely and Optimus issue. Intel HD Graphics 5500 Also, it turns out the HDMI port works even with the latest kernel. Screen is still a bit washed out but not bad if I run "xgamma gamma .8" in /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/75-set-xgamma.sh -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: more external display woes... SOLVED (sort of)
F22 works until I update, closing this thread for a more appropriate one, sent a new email: Fedora 22 - no external monitor after kernel update On 09/11/2015 05:16 PM, CS DBA wrote: All; I bought a new Lenovo X1 Carbon 3rd generation, installed Fedora 21 and neither the mini display port or the HDMI port work per an external display. Installed Fedora 22 as well but it has the same issue. Can someone help me debug this? Thanks in advance -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Fedora 22 - no external monitor after kernel update
Hi All; I've just installed Fedora 22. The external monitor (Intel HD Graphics 5500) worked fine initially. Then I ran an update of all packages except for the kernel, external monitor still worked. Then I updated the kernel, going from 4.0.4 to 4.1.6 - now the external monitor does not work. Thoughts? Thanks in advance -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
more external display woes...
All; I bought a new Lenovo X1 Carbon 3rd generation, installed Fedora 21 and neither the mini display port or the HDMI port work per an external display. Installed Fedora 22 as well but it has the same issue. Can someone help me debug this? Thanks in advance -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: HD+ LED-backlit LCD screen washed out - found a temporary solution
All, Just an FYI, I created a file: /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/99-xgamma.sh made it executable, and added this content: #!/bin/bash xgamma -gamma .7 It seems that setting overall gamma to 0.7 does wonders for the display On 09/10/2015 03:06 PM, CS DBA wrote: All; So I went ahead and installed F22, no freeze issues so far. the display is somewhat better but still washed out, if I tilt the laptop screen way back closer to 180 degrees than the normal 45 degres then the screen looks great but if I tilt it as you normally do a laptop screen (screen vertical) it looks washed out. Thoughts? Thanks in advance On 09/10/2015 10:32 AM, John Pilkington wrote: On 10/09/15 17:16, CS DBA wrote: Will this fix the screen issue? I'd be a bit cautious. The KDE-fedora list isn't entirely happy with F22 at present. http://www.spinics.net/linux/fedora/fedora-kde/msg15597.html On 09/10/2015 10:02 AM, Zoltan Hoppar wrote: Sure, use Fedora 22 KDE... 2015-09-10 17:40 GMT+02:00 CS DBA : Hi All; I've just installed Fedora 21 (KDE Spin) on a new Lenovo Thinkpad T450s with a HD+ LED-backlit LCD screen with the following video card: Intel HD Graphics 5500 Fedora is running great except the screen is washed out, colors are blah and its borderline hard to read. The following driver is installed: xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.99.916-4.20141117.fc21.x86_64 Anyone have any ideas how to fix it? Thanks in advance -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: HD+ LED-backlit LCD screen washed out
All; So I went ahead and installed F22, no freeze issues so far. the display is somewhat better but still washed out, if I tilt the laptop screen way back closer to 180 degrees than the normal 45 degres then the screen looks great but if I tilt it as you normally do a laptop screen (screen vertical) it looks washed out. Thoughts? Thanks in advance On 09/10/2015 10:32 AM, John Pilkington wrote: On 10/09/15 17:16, CS DBA wrote: Will this fix the screen issue? I'd be a bit cautious. The KDE-fedora list isn't entirely happy with F22 at present. http://www.spinics.net/linux/fedora/fedora-kde/msg15597.html On 09/10/2015 10:02 AM, Zoltan Hoppar wrote: Sure, use Fedora 22 KDE... 2015-09-10 17:40 GMT+02:00 CS DBA : Hi All; I've just installed Fedora 21 (KDE Spin) on a new Lenovo Thinkpad T450s with a HD+ LED-backlit LCD screen with the following video card: Intel HD Graphics 5500 Fedora is running great except the screen is washed out, colors are blah and its borderline hard to read. The following driver is installed: xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.99.916-4.20141117.fc21.x86_64 Anyone have any ideas how to fix it? Thanks in advance -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: HD+ LED-backlit LCD screen washed out
Will this fix the screen issue? On 09/10/2015 10:02 AM, Zoltan Hoppar wrote: Sure, use Fedora 22 KDE... 2015-09-10 17:40 GMT+02:00 CS DBA : Hi All; I've just installed Fedora 21 (KDE Spin) on a new Lenovo Thinkpad T450s with a HD+ LED-backlit LCD screen with the following video card: Intel HD Graphics 5500 Fedora is running great except the screen is washed out, colors are blah and its borderline hard to read. The following driver is installed: xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.99.916-4.20141117.fc21.x86_64 Anyone have any ideas how to fix it? Thanks in advance -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
HD+ LED-backlit LCD screen washed out
Hi All; I've just installed Fedora 21 (KDE Spin) on a new Lenovo Thinkpad T450s with a HD+ LED-backlit LCD screen with the following video card: Intel HD Graphics 5500 Fedora is running great except the screen is washed out, colors are blah and its borderline hard to read. The following driver is installed: xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.99.916-4.20141117.fc21.x86_64 Anyone have any ideas how to fix it? Thanks in advance -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Kernel 4.1.4 breaks external display
Are you running with kmod-nvidia via rpmfusion? or the native nvidia driver? On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 4:06 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > I am runningthe default F22 kernel. M3800 did not require much tweaking > from what I recall from my install. > > Ranjan > > On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 15:23:52 -0600 CS DBA > wrote: > > > Are you running kmod-nvidia? Bumblebee? > > > > > > On 09/04/2015 02:59 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > > Yes, it is. > > > > > > On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 14:50:09 -0600 CS DBA > wrote: > > > > > >> Is 4.1.6 the latest for Fedora 22? I'm running Fedora 21 and a yum > > >> update gives me 4.1.5 > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> On 09/04/2015 02:44 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > >>> The Dell M3800 works fine for me with kernel 4.1.6. > > >>> > > >>> Ranjan > > >>> > > >>> On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 14:28:00 -0600 CS DBA > wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> I checked that as well, no luck > > >>>> > > >>>> actually I have 2 laptops with the same issue, a Dell M3800 and an > ASUS > > >>>> zenbook, with kernel 4.1.x I have no external monitor capability > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> On 09/04/2015 01:29 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > > >>>>> On 09/05/15 00:08, CS DBA wrote: > > >>>>>> No dice, the display section of the system settings only shows the > > >>>>>> laptop screen > > >>>>> Also, make sure they aren't stacked. Move the screen in the > display to see if the external monitor is below it. I also had that happen > to me. > > >>>>> > > >>>> -- > > >>>> users mailing list > > >>>> users@lists.fedoraproject.org > > >>>> To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > > >>>> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > >>>> Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct > > >>>> Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > > >>>> Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org > > >> -- > > >> users mailing list > > >> users@lists.fedoraproject.org > > >> To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > > >> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > >> Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct > > >> Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > > >> Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org > > > > > > > -- > > users mailing list > > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct > > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > > Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org > > > -- > Important Notice: This mailbox is ignored: e-mails are set to be deleted > on receipt. Please respond to the mailing list if appropriate. For those > needing to send personal or professional e-mail, please use appropriate > addresses. > > > Can't remember your password? Do you need a strong and secure password? > Use Password manager! It stores your passwords & protects your account. > Check it out at http://mysecurelogon.com/password-manager > > > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org > -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Kernel 4.1.4 breaks external display
Are you running kmod-nvidia? Bumblebee? On 09/04/2015 02:59 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > Yes, it is. > > On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 14:50:09 -0600 CS DBA wrote: > >> Is 4.1.6 the latest for Fedora 22? I'm running Fedora 21 and a yum >> update gives me 4.1.5 >> >> >> >> >> On 09/04/2015 02:44 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: >>> The Dell M3800 works fine for me with kernel 4.1.6. >>> >>> Ranjan >>> >>> On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 14:28:00 -0600 CS DBA wrote: >>> >>>> I checked that as well, no luck >>>> >>>> actually I have 2 laptops with the same issue, a Dell M3800 and an ASUS >>>> zenbook, with kernel 4.1.x I have no external monitor capability >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 09/04/2015 01:29 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >>>>> On 09/05/15 00:08, CS DBA wrote: >>>>>> No dice, the display section of the system settings only shows the >>>>>> laptop screen >>>>> Also, make sure they aren't stacked. Move the screen in the display to >>>>> see if the external monitor is below it. I also had that happen to me. >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> users mailing list >>>> users@lists.fedoraproject.org >>>> To unsubscribe or change subscription options: >>>> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>>> Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct >>>> Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >>>> Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org >> -- >> users mailing list >> users@lists.fedoraproject.org >> To unsubscribe or change subscription options: >> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct >> Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >> Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org > -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Kernel 4.1.4 breaks external display
Is 4.1.6 the latest for Fedora 22? I'm running Fedora 21 and a yum update gives me 4.1.5 On 09/04/2015 02:44 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > The Dell M3800 works fine for me with kernel 4.1.6. > > Ranjan > > On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 14:28:00 -0600 CS DBA wrote: > >> I checked that as well, no luck >> >> actually I have 2 laptops with the same issue, a Dell M3800 and an ASUS >> zenbook, with kernel 4.1.x I have no external monitor capability >> >> >> >> >> On 09/04/2015 01:29 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >>> On 09/05/15 00:08, CS DBA wrote: >>>> No dice, the display section of the system settings only shows the >>>> laptop screen >>> Also, make sure they aren't stacked. Move the screen in the display to see >>> if the external monitor is below it. I also had that happen to me. >>> >> -- >> users mailing list >> users@lists.fedoraproject.org >> To unsubscribe or change subscription options: >> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct >> Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >> Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org > -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Kernel 4.1.4 breaks external display
I checked that as well, no luck actually I have 2 laptops with the same issue, a Dell M3800 and an ASUS zenbook, with kernel 4.1.x I have no external monitor capability On 09/04/2015 01:29 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 09/05/15 00:08, CS DBA wrote: >> No dice, the display section of the system settings only shows the >> laptop screen > Also, make sure they aren't stacked. Move the screen in the display to see > if the external monitor is below it. I also had that happen to me. > -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Kernel 4.1.4 breaks external display
On 09/02/2015 08:00 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 09/03/15 09:06, CS DBA wrote: >> On 08/31/2015 08:34 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >>> On 08/21/15 23:41, CS DBA wrote: >>>> I'm running Fedora 21 on a Dell M3800 laptop, been working great. >>>> Updating to the latest kernel however breaks my external display >>>> i.e. I plug the external monitor in and nothing happens, previous to the >>>> update when I plug in the external monitor >>>> the system would auto configure the second screen and I could use both >>>> monitors. >>>> >>>> I've googled the issue but not found anything. >>>> >>>> Thoughts? >>> Several thoughts come to mind... >>> >>> 1. What desktop are you using? GNOME. KDE, xfce, something else >> KDE >> >>> 2. Did you try going back to a working kernel? >> Yes, I had an rsync of the system from before the updae, running now >> with kernel 4.0.8-200 and it works >> >> >>> 3. It seems as if you're saying you've booted without the monitor attached >>> and plug it in later? Yes? If so, have you tried booting with the monitor >>> already attached? Or, attaching the monitor and then logging out/in? >> I've tried all of the above with the updated kernel, no luck. The second >> screen remains blank and I cannot move the mouse past the edge of the >> laptop screen irrespective of if I boot / login with the monitor >> attached or not > OK > > I think I see what is happening as I ran into this a while back myself and > just tested it on an Acer Laptop running F22/KDE > > Bring up "System Settings" and go to "Hardware--->Display and > Monitior-->Display Configuration". Assuming you see both monitors, make > sure they are aligned as they are physically. Position them and hit apply. > > Then move your mouse to the "blank" monitor. If it is want I think it is, > the arrow pointer will "disappear". Then right click and with any luck a > dialog box will appear and you'll be able to select either "Desktop" or > "Folder View" settings an pick a background. Initially, I found that the > background is "black" and it just looks like the display is not working. No dice, the display section of the system settings only shows the laptop screen > > > -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Kernel 4.1.4 breaks external display
On 08/31/2015 08:34 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 08/21/15 23:41, CS DBA wrote: >> I'm running Fedora 21 on a Dell M3800 laptop, been working great. >> Updating to the latest kernel however breaks my external display >> i.e. I plug the external monitor in and nothing happens, previous to the >> update when I plug in the external monitor >> the system would auto configure the second screen and I could use both >> monitors. >> >> I've googled the issue but not found anything. >> >> Thoughts? > Several thoughts come to mind... > > 1. What desktop are you using? GNOME. KDE, xfce, something else KDE > 2. Did you try going back to a working kernel? Yes, I had an rsync of the system from before the updae, running now with kernel 4.0.8-200 and it works > 3. It seems as if you're saying you've booted without the monitor attached > and plug it in later? Yes? If so, have you tried booting with the monitor > already attached? Or, attaching the monitor and then logging out/in? I've tried all of the above with the updated kernel, no luck. The second screen remains blank and I cannot move the mouse past the edge of the laptop screen irrespective of if I boot / login with the monitor attached or not I'm running the nouveau driver and an lspci shows I have this video card: NVIDIA Corporation GK107GLM [Quadro K1100M] (rev a1) > -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Kernel 4.1.4 breaks external display
Still no luck, any advice per debugging this? Thanks in advance On 08/21/2015 09:58 AM, CS DBA wrote: > Update: > > I'm actually updated to kernel 4.1.5-100, as opposed to the 4.1.4 > indicated in my subject line. > > Also when I plug in the external monitor I get this via dmesg: > > [ 49.612966] nouveau E[PBUS][:02:00.0] MMIO write of > 0x0002 FAULT at 0x4188ac [ IBUS ] > > > > > > > On 08/21/2015 09:41 AM, CS DBA wrote: >> Hi All; >> >> I'm running Fedora 21 on a Dell M3800 laptop, been working great. >> Updating to the latest kernel however breaks my external display >> i.e. I plug the external monitor in and nothing happens, previous to the >> update when I plug in the external monitor >> the system would auto configure the second screen and I could use both >> monitors. >> >> I've googled the issue but not found anything. >> >> Thoughts? >> >> Thanks in advance -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Kernel 4.1.4 breaks external display
Update: I'm actually updated to kernel 4.1.5-100, as opposed to the 4.1.4 indicated in my subject line. Also when I plug in the external monitor I get this via dmesg: [ 49.612966] nouveau E[PBUS][:02:00.0] MMIO write of 0x0002 FAULT at 0x4188ac [ IBUS ] On 08/21/2015 09:41 AM, CS DBA wrote: > Hi All; > > I'm running Fedora 21 on a Dell M3800 laptop, been working great. > Updating to the latest kernel however breaks my external display > i.e. I plug the external monitor in and nothing happens, previous to the > update when I plug in the external monitor > the system would auto configure the second screen and I could use both > monitors. > > I've googled the issue but not found anything. > > Thoughts? > > Thanks in advance -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Kernel 4.1.4 breaks external display
Hi All; I'm running Fedora 21 on a Dell M3800 laptop, been working great. Updating to the latest kernel however breaks my external display i.e. I plug the external monitor in and nothing happens, previous to the update when I plug in the external monitor the system would auto configure the second screen and I could use both monitors. I've googled the issue but not found anything. Thoughts? Thanks in advance -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Asus UX303LA - fedora 21 - external monitor via mini display port not recognized
All; I've installed Fedora 21 on an Asus UX303LA. Most everything works great but I cannot get it to recognize an external monitor via the mini display port. I checked dmesg and saw no change when I plug the monitor in. I also booted with the monitor plugged in but still no luck. Thoughts? Thanks in advance -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: installing Fedora 21 or 22 on a MacBook Air 7,1
I installed Fedora 20 on a macbook air like this: 1) burned the KDE live dvd, 2) plugged the dvd player into the mac usb port 3) held down the option button while I boot the macbook 4) when it comes up with the boot options choose the Fedora DVD (it takes a few min before it shows up) 5) boot off the DVD, then do the install to disk as normal On 07/29/2015 06:13 AM, Frederic Muller wrote: > On 07/29/2015 07:01 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 04:41:04PM +0700, Frederic Muller wrote: >>> Hi! >>> >>> I have been struggling installing Fedora on a friend's MBA as the local >>> SSD doesn't seem to be recognized. I found a few posts online with >>> various degrees of luck, unfortunately they never mentioned with MBA is >>> used and that didn't work for me. >> I'm not a Mac user, but knowing what you tried might give others some >> ideas what you could try. >> > Well unfortunately there is not much thing to try as the disk is simply > invisible. So I have tried a lot of web searches for one ;-) and also > other distro install with even less success (screen simply didn't even > display text, so I couldn't get very far - maybe that was a problem with > the intel HD graphics 6000 drivers?). > > And so to directly answer your question: > 1. create USB key to boot from > 2. Boot from EFI disk > 3. Try to find the disk when ask to chose a disk to install: and here it > only sees the USB key. > > Thank you for the follow up.. i feel so :-/ > > Fred -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Fedora 22 KDE spin, no wireless
All; I did a new install of Fedora 22 - the KDE spin on a macbook pro, Fedora 21 worked well on this laptop but with Fedora 22 I cannot get the wireless enabled, when I click the network icon in the system tray I only see the wired connection and it does not show the check box to enable/disable wireless... I installed kmod-wl but when I do a 'modprobe wl' I get this: FATAL: Module wl not found Thoughts? Thanks in advance -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Fedora 21 on mackbook air - no tilde key
Hi All; I've installed Fedora 21 KDE spin on a 2015 Macbook air. I installed the rpmfusion repos and enabled kmod-wl and kernel-devel packages to enable wireless support. At this point most everything works, the screen brightness keys, keyboard backlight keys, keyboard volume keys, etc all work. However if I press the tilde/back tick key I get a les than sign (<) and if I press shift-tilde I get a greater than sign (>) Anyone know how to enable the proper behavior for these keys? Thanks in advance -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Andriod tablet as a second monitor
All; Is it possible to use an andriod tablet as a second monitor? I'm running Fedora 21 on a Dell Precision Workstation 3800 Thanks in advance -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
L2TP over IPSEC ?
Hi All; anyone have any info on setting up a L2TP over IPSEC client vpn conection in Fedora 20 or 21? Thanks in advance -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Blank laptop screen after disconnecting projector
The laptop was set to the main display the whole time On 1/22/15 10:58 PM, Eddie O'Connor wrote: Wonder if there's a "Set As Main Display" option? You could then set the laptop to be the primary always whether plugged into a monitor or not..hmmm On Jan 23, 2015 12:18 AM, "CS DBA" <mailto:cs_...@consistentstate.com>> wrote: All; I recently installed Fedora21 (KDE Spin) on a new Dell M3800 Everything was working beautifully, one of the things I do on a regular basis is to rsync my hard drive (skipping the directories created at runtime) to a backup location I have been connecting & disconnection the laptop to/from 2 separate monitors via the mini display port & a mini display port to vga adapter with no issues. earlier tonite I did a presentation to a local users group meeting, all went fine, I plugged their projector into the mini display port and the presentation worked fine. However when I unplugged the projector mu laptop screen went blank, I rebooted and logged into a blank screen, after a reboot I could plug the projector in again and get dual screens (laptop and projector screen), If I unplugged the projector I get a blank screen on the laptop again. I restored a full backup rebooted, same problem... I'm now doing a full re-install of Fedora 21. I'd like to avoid this in the future, any help would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org <mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org> To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Blank laptop screen after disconnecting projector
All; I recently installed Fedora21 (KDE Spin) on a new Dell M3800 Everything was working beautifully, one of the things I do on a regular basis is to rsync my hard drive (skipping the directories created at runtime) to a backup location I have been connecting & disconnection the laptop to/from 2 separate monitors via the mini display port & a mini display port to vga adapter with no issues. earlier tonite I did a presentation to a local users group meeting, all went fine, I plugged their projector into the mini display port and the presentation worked fine. However when I unplugged the projector mu laptop screen went blank, I rebooted and logged into a blank screen, after a reboot I could plug the projector in again and get dual screens (laptop and projector screen), If I unplugged the projector I get a blank screen on the laptop again. I restored a full backup rebooted, same problem... I'm now doing a full re-install of Fedora 21. I'd like to avoid this in the future, any help would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Dell Inspiron 1525: Many Intel Graphics Problems, Resume from Suspend Broken
Maybe this holds some glimmer of hope? https://forums.kali.org/showthread.php?4936-Disable-sleep-when-laptop-lid-is-closed On 01/21/2015 05:12 PM, Gilles-Philippe Morin wrote: > These are the "detailed" system settings. The default GNOME system > settings do not give any option about lid closure. > > On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 7:07 PM, CS DBA > wrote: >> weird, I'm runnng KDE and have several pulldown options for this... >> is there another area of gnome for 'system settings'? >> >> >> >> >> On 01/21/2015 04:35 PM, Gilles-Philippe Morin wrote: >>> Curiously, GNOME Tweak Tool displays a bold "When Laptop Lid Is >>> Closed" in the "Power" section but I don't see anything under it. >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 6:31 PM, CS DBA >>> wrote: >>>> Maybe as a short term fix you could go to the power management >>>> settings and set the 'event' for closing the lid to 'lock screen' >>>> instead of 'sleep' >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 01/12/2015 12:32 PM, Miguel Ángel Pérez wrote: >>>>> Hi Gilles-Philippe, >>>>> >>>>> All of this seems to be the fault of the graphic driver and there >>>>> is no fast solution for this. If you cannot wait for the intel >>>>> guys to fix this in their driver then you could back up your data >>>>> and go back to fedora 20 if it worked on your laptop. >>>>> >>>>> If you can't go back, then filing the bug upstream and waiting is >>>>> the only thing you can do ... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2015-01-12 19:17 GMT+01:00 Gilles-Philippe Morin >>>>> >>>> <mailto:gilles.philippe.mo...@gmail.com>>: >>>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> I am in deep trouble now that I have upgraded to Fedora 21. My >>>>> main >>>>> production computer — a Dell Inspiron 1525 laptop — fails most >>>>> of the >>>>> time to resume from RAM suspend and thus I cannot use it at school >>>>> anymore. >>>>> >>>>> At the same time, this issue is accompanied by many graphical >>>>> issues. >>>>> I do not know if they are linked together. >>>>> >>>>> When I say "suspend from RAM", I mean closing the lid of my >>>>> laptop. >>>>> When I say "resume from suspend", I mean opening that lid. >>>>> When I say "fail to resume", I mean getting a black screen with a >>>>> working cursor and responsive keyboard. The only buttons that >>>>> don't >>>>> work are the brightness buttons and the Prnt Scrn buttons. >>>>> Switching >>>>> to another TTY works. >>>>> >>>>> I made many dmesg outputs, after boot, after a succeeding resume, >>>>> after a failed resume in another TTY. The latter does not >>>>> provide me >>>>> anything meaningful, but the two first ones are filled with >>>>> warnings. >>>>> >>>>> I always get a warning for the i915 GPU DRM: >>>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=962386 >>>>> >>>>> At boot, my kernel gets tainted because of a graphical warning: >>>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1177477 >>>>> >>>>> After a succeeding resume, I get a firmware bug: >>>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1180939 >>>>> >>>>> And finally, the very inconvenient resume fails: >>>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1176645 >>>>> >>>>> I also get graphical glitches from time to time, but I have no >>>>> idea if >>>>> they are related to the above bugs: >>>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1178543 >>>>> >>>>> I get next to no responses in Bugzilla after weeks. The Google+ >>>>> community points me to my own Bugzilla filings. The IRC tells >>>>> me to >>>>> use Google. How can I solve this fast? >>>>> >>>>> Here&
allow ssh / scp to fedora 20 / 21
Hi All; How do I open ports & allow ssh / scp to a fedora 21 workstation ? I added port 22 to the public area but no luck thanks in advance -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 21 wrong IP address when using "Automatic" (DHCP)
On 1/20/15 1:06 PM, CS DBA wrote: Hi All; I have a laptop with a new Fedora 21 install, Our firewall is set to serve up (DHCP) addresses from 192.168.2.100 - 192.168.2.250 When I activate the physical internet (enp0s25) I get an address of 192.168.0.100 this I cannot connect to any other servers due to the subnet difference. I checked the settings and the "Method" in the KDE edit connections (KnetworkManager) is set to "Automatic" Thanks in advance... Update: If I set the IPV4 section to manual and add the appropriate ip, netmask, gateway and dns entries I get a valid (static) ip, however given this is a laptop and I move to other network, the static option is less than ideal If I revert to Automatic again I still get the 192.168.0.100 ip address -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Fedora 21 wrong IP address when using "Automatic" (DHCP)
Hi All; I have a laptop with a new Fedora 21 install, Our firewall is set to serve up (DHCP) addresses from 192.168.2.100 - 192.168.2.250 When I activate the physical internet (enp0s25) I get an address of 192.168.0.100 this I cannot connect to any other servers due to the subnet difference. I checked the settings and the "Method" in the KDE edit connections (KnetworkManager) is set to "Automatic" Thanks in advance... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
display link driver?
All; anyone know how to get a displaylink usb monitor to work with Fedora 21? (Asus MB168B+) Thanks in advance -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Fedora 21 on a GIGABYTE P34Gv2-CF4 (NVIDIA GeForc GTX 860M)
All; I'm thinking about getting a GIGABYTE P34Gv2-CF4 with these specs: - 14.0” FHD 16:9 LED IPS Backlit Wide screen (1920x1080) Anti-Glare Matte Type Screen - 4th Generation Intel® Haswell Core™ i7-4710HQ (2.5GHz - 3.5GHz, 6MB Intel® Smart Cache) - NVIDIA® GeForce™ GTX 860M (4.0GB) GDDR5 PCI-Express DX11 w/ Optimus™ Technology - 16GB DDR3 1866MHz [SKU-444BX] (Crucial Ballistix Sport Dual Channel Memory (2x8GB SODIMMS)) -512GB Crucial M550 Solid State mSATA III (Read 550MB/s - Write 500MB/s) - 1TB Crucial M550 SSD (Read 550MB/s - Write 500MB/s (SATA III)) - Smart Li-ion Battery (4-Cell) Most of the hardware seems compatible enough, I only have 2 concerns: 1) the 512GB Crucial M550 Solid State mSATA III, can I install the OS & boot off this drive? 2) the NVIDIA® GeForce™ GTX 860M (4.0GB) GDDR5, I've seen some posts of folks having issues with this card, will it work with the open source nouveau drivers (even if I get less functionality)? Or with the kmod-nvidia packages? Thoughts? Thanks in advance... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: how to run xrandr command at startup
On 1/2/15 3:44 PM, CS DBA wrote: Hi all; I want to run an xrandr command at startup. I Tried these solutions with no luck: 1) added command it to /etc/rc.d/rc.local (as a script with #!/bin/bash as the first line) created a soft link from /etc/rc.d/rc.local to /etc/rc.local systemctl start rc-local.service 2) added command to /etc/kde/kdm/Xsetup chmod a+x /etc/kde/kdm/Xsetup Neither of the above solutions work I'm running Fedora 21, KDE spin (64bit) Thanks in advance for any help... Update: I've tweaked my /etc/kde/kdm/Xsetup file to look like this: / //#!/bin/sh// // ///bin/xrandr --newmode "1280x800_60.00" 83.50 1280 1352 1480 1680 800 803 809 831 -hsync +vsync// // ///bin/xrandr --addmode eDP1 "1280x800_60.00"// // ///bin/xrandr -s 1280x800// // ///bin/xrandr --output eDP1 --panning 1280x800 --scale 0.633x0.633/ If I login with this the screen is not right, cut off at the sides. If I then login and run the /etc/kde/kdm/Xsetup file as a script then the screen gets set correctly Thoughts? Thanks again in advance -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
how to run xrandr command at startup
Hi all; I want to run an xrandr command at startup. I Tried these solutions with no luck: 1) added command it to /etc/rc.d/rc.local (as a script with #!/bin/bash as the first line) created a soft link from /etc/rc.d/rc.local to /etc/rc.local systemctl start rc-local.service 2) added command to /etc/kde/kdm/Xsetup chmod a+x /etc/kde/kdm/Xsetup Neither of the above solutions work I'm running Fedora 21, KDE spin (64bit) Thanks in advance for any help... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora21 on a macbook pro - willing to pay!!!
On 1/1/15 1:15 PM, CS DBA wrote: All; I want to run Fedora21 on a mid-2014 Macbook pro 13" retina... I can get the install done easy enough but I want all the buttons & such to work such as : - auto setting for the backlit keyboard - the mac keyboard keys for screen brightness - the mac 'show desktop' (F3) key - sound volume keys - etc Can anyone point me in the right direction? If some of these just don't exist I'd be willing to pay for it's development. Thanks in advance... One other note: I want to run KDE as the primary desktop -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Fedora21 on a macbook pro - willing to pay!!!
All; I want to run Fedora21 on a mid-2014 Macbook pro 13" retina... I can get the install done easy enough but I want all the buttons & such to work such as : - auto setting for the backlit keyboard - the mac keyboard keys for screen brightness - the mac 'show desktop' (F3) key - sound volume keys - etc Can anyone point me in the right direction? If some of these just don't exist I'd be willing to pay for it's development. Thanks in advance... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Help debugging / correcting wireless speed issue
On 3/16/14, 7:50 PM, CS DBA wrote: On 3/16/14, 4:45 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 03/16/2014 03:41 PM, CS DBA wrote: However, the Fedora laptop connected to my local access point shows a download speed of 1.63Mbps, while the mac, running the same test from the same site (http://speedtest.comcast.net) shows a download speed of 26.89Mbps Before worrying about things like that, it helps to get a second opinion. Try this speed test on both machines and see if you get similar results: http://www.abeltronica.com/velocimetro/pt/?idioma=uk&newlang=uk I tried 2 additional sites (the link above never returned): On the Mac: testmy.net: Download: 17.1 Mbps Upload: 9.1 Mbps Speed.io: Download: 25.252 Kbit/s Upload:2.530 Kbis/s speedtest.net: Download: 19.28 Mbps Upload:1.52 Mbps On the Fedora (Lenovo) box: testmy.net: Download: 2.6 Mbps Upload: 2.8 Mbps Speed.io: Download: 2.704 Kbit/s Upload:1.458 Kbis/s speedtest.net: Download: 3.77 Mbps Upload:2.75 Mbps Anyone have any thoughts? Just an FYI: I tried disabling NetworkManager and installed wicd, same results... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Help debugging / correcting wireless speed issue
On 3/16/14, 4:45 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 03/16/2014 03:41 PM, CS DBA wrote: However, the Fedora laptop connected to my local access point shows a download speed of 1.63Mbps, while the mac, running the same test from the same site (http://speedtest.comcast.net) shows a download speed of 26.89Mbps Before worrying about things like that, it helps to get a second opinion. Try this speed test on both machines and see if you get similar results: http://www.abeltronica.com/velocimetro/pt/?idioma=uk&newlang=uk I tried 2 additional sites (the link above never returned): On the Mac: testmy.net: Download: 17.1 Mbps Upload: 9.1 Mbps Speed.io: Download: 25.252 Kbit/s Upload:2.530 Kbis/s speedtest.net: Download: 19.28 Mbps Upload:1.52 Mbps On the Fedora (Lenovo) box: testmy.net: Download: 2.6 Mbps Upload: 2.8 Mbps Speed.io: Download: 2.704 Kbit/s Upload:1.458 Kbis/s speedtest.net: Download: 3.77 Mbps Upload:2.75 Mbps Anyone have any thoughts? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Help debugging / correcting wireless speed issue
Hi All; I'm switching from Mac back to Fedora, my new Fedora laptop is a Lenovo W540 with this card: Intel Dual Band Wireless 7260AC I posted about issues earlier, which I've been able to resolve via a clean install. The wireless and wired connections connect immediately and behave as they should. However, the Fedora laptop connected to my local access point shows a download speed of 1.63Mbps, while the mac, running the same test from the same site (http://speedtest.comcast.net) shows a download speed of 26.89Mbps Both laptops are sitting on the same desk, same distance from the access point I don't expect exact matching speeds but this is a dramatic difference... can anyone help me debug / correct this? Thanks in advance -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Backup question
On 3/16/14, 12:33 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 12:29:16PM -0600, CS DBA wrote: I have an rsync script to backup my entire system each time before I run updates, as versions come & go I try and keep up with which top level directories to backup knowing that some like /proc are virtual... Here's my question: If I simply backup all directories (including ones like /proc & /media, etc) will the following work, or do I need to care about specifically excluding the virtual directories? It might not _hurt_ to back up /proc, /sys, and the like, but it's a waste of time and effort since these are all entirely dynamically generated and you can't possibly restore them. You can use rsync -x to keep rsync from crossing filesystems, and then just do it separately for each real filesystem you want. Alternately, you might want to try the new "Fedora Atomic" -- http://rpm-ostree.cloud.fedoraproject.org/. As the name implies, this lets you do atomic updates and switch back if thereis aproblem. Thanks, where would I find a complete list of the completely dynamic top level directories? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Backup question
Hi All; I have an rsync script to backup my entire system each time before I run updates, as versions come & go I try and keep up with which top level directories to backup knowing that some like /proc are virtual... Here's my question: If I simply backup all directories (including ones like /proc & /media, etc) will the following work, or do I need to care about specifically excluding the virtual directories? 1) run the rsync backup of ALL directories in / 2) boot to a problem (say a boot to a blank screen) 3) boot into single user mode 4) run the rsync based restore (restoring everything from step 1) 5) reboot into the previous system state Thanks in advance -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Fedora 20 network issues
Hi all; I'm setting up Fedora 20 on a Lenovo W540, I'm seeing network issues : - The wireless connections seem unusually slow and I get disconnects often - The wired connection often will not connect at all The wireless card is : Intel Dual Band Wireless 7260AC However I'm not sure why this affects the wired connection Can anyone help me debug this? Thanks in advance -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Screen Brightness Keys Not Working - Thinkpad W540 & Fedora 20
On 3/15/14, 12:16 PM, Digimer wrote: On 15/03/14 01:44 PM, D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote: | From: CS DBA | Just setup a Thinkpad W540, most everything is working well. I hope you are aware that there is a BIOS bug that can cause Linux to brick the machine. As in: once it happens, the motherboard needs to be replaced. See this, for example: <http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/W-Series-ThinkPad-Laptops/HOWTO-Brick-a-W540-in-easy-steps/m-p/1414465/highlight/true#M43530> Google will tell you more. Wow, that's major. Thanks for the heads-up! Just an FYI: I've installed Fedora 20, then Cent OS 6.5 and now Fedora 19 with no BIOS issues whatsoever. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Slow wireless speeds - Fedora 20 - Intel Dual Band Wireless 7260A
Hi All; I have Fedora 20 running on a Thinkpad W540, the wireless works out of the box but seems real slow (less than 2mbps) Can anyone help me debug this or point me to the right package(s) to install? Thanks in advance -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
No Sound keys - fedora 20 & Thinkpad W540
Hi All; Just setup a Thinkpad W540, most everything is working well. The sound keys dont work (Fn-F2 & Fn-F3) Thanks in advance for any tips -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Screen Brightness Keys Not Working - Thinkpad W540 & Fedora 20
Hi All; Just setup a Thinkpad W540, most everything is working well. I did not install any nvidia drivers (kmod-nvidia, nvidia downloaded binaries, etc) just using the default driver - not sure if this has anything to do with it but Fn-F5 / Fn-F6 dont do anything... Thanks in advance -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Nvidia Support
Hi All; My shiny new Thinkpad W540 is due to arrive tomorrow. I'm preparing what I think I might need for the Fedora 20 install. Nvidia support question, the W540 is equipped with this card: NVIDIA Quadro K1100M 2GB Anyone have any thoughts on the best video packages that would support this card? Is the nouveau driver sufficient, or would the kmod-nvidia driver be better? Do I need to download and install the Nvidia binaries? The screen on the laptop is a 1920x1080 Thanks in advance -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: OT: bash question
On 03/05/2014 01:13 PM, Mike Wright wrote: Hi all, I need to extract the name of a parent directory, not the whole path. Combinations of dirname and cut didn't get me anywhere. Given this: (the ... indicates that I don't know the dir depth) /.../mydir/my.file How would I extract this: /.../mydir/my.file ^ TIA to all takers :) Use basename? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Security Chip
On 2/21/14, 11:54 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Fri, 21 Feb 2014, CS DBA wrote: Hi All; I just ordered a Lenovo Thinkpad W540, the specs list this: Security Chip 2 Security Chip Enabled I plan to run Fedora 20 on it. Is this something I should be concerned about? Can it be disabled in the bios? i don't know about that chip, but a few weeks ago, i was down south chatting with some military IT contractors, and they told me that in most sites they work in, *no* *one* is even allowed into the building with a lenovo laptop -- they are considered that insecure/compromised. no idea if this relates to your security chip question, but i thought i'd share that. rday Do you have any details as to why? I plan to run Linux on it, does this change things? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Security Chip
Hi All; I just ordered a Lenovo Thinkpad W540, the specs list this: Security Chip 2 Security Chip Enabled I plan to run Fedora 20 on it. Is this something I should be concerned about? Can it be disabled in the bios? Thanks in advance... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Intel Dual Band Wireless 7260AC with Bluetooth 4.0 with Fedora
Anyone using Fedora with this wireless card: Intel Dual Band Wireless 7260AC with Bluetooth 4.0 Works well? Thanks in advance -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
NVIDIA Quadro K1100M 2GB and Fedora
Anyone running Fedora with this card: NVIDIA Quadro K1100M 2GB Does it work well? any gotcha's? Thanks in advance -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Development question
On 2/7/14, 5:17 PM, Doug wrote: On 02/07/2014 04:54 PM, CS DBA wrote: Hi All; It seems to me that the "marriage" that Microsoft & Apple enjoy per hardware designed for their software gives them a huge advantage. I see that the Linux community is quite good at coming up with drivers, software, etc for hardware after the fact. I wonder, what could be accomplished if a Linux based distro had the same advantage? I'm in the early stages of researching just such a company. We'll be setting up some infrastructure around community involvement and feedback, however I'd be interested in any initial feedback you all have. I'm thinking that the OS would remain fully open source (GPL) and we'd license the hardware specs in the same way. Then we could release laptops & desktops that truly have an advantage. The company would couple a solid Linux distro with it's own tweaks (polish & branding & such) coupled with our own hardware. I suspect that instead of waiting for the current HW vendors to release new hardware and then quickly figure out how to interface with it we can put effort into polish and functionality and quickly become the trend setters for MS and Apple to follow. Thoughts? Thanks in advance Sounds good, but bucking the likes of MS and Apple? And I think it would be difficult to compete hardware-wise, since you wouldn't have the huge base to get the advantage of large quantity hardware buys. Of course, Apple has that, but still charges an arm and a leg for their hardware. . . . If you do pursue this, I hope you don't commit to something like Ubuntu, with its hated interface. Your system should offer some choices. we will be all about choices, thanks for the feedback Good luck! --doug -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Development question
On 2/7/14, 3:27 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 02/07/2014 01:54 PM, CS DBA issued this missive: Hi All; It seems to me that the "marriage" that Microsoft & Apple enjoy per hardware designed for their software gives them a huge advantage. I see that the Linux community is quite good at coming up with drivers, software, etc for hardware after the fact. It's a bit more the other way around. The hardware is designed first, then they share the specs with the software vendors. It's logical in the sense that they'd have a better shot at getting some money out of M$ or Apple than the open-source community. One example of this was with the old TI wireless chips...you _could_ poke a register in the hardware that could cause the chip to transmit at a higher level than the FCC would allow. Obviously, that's sort of illegal so they kept the interface of that chip under tight lock and key and only told Microsoft about it. For several years the only driver that would work was Microsoft's. The chip was discontinued after a couple of years. This continues with the firmware required for certain wireless chips and such...it's only available from M$ or Apple and we've had to create a program that rips the code out of the M$/Apple files and puts it in a format our OS can use. I wonder, what could be accomplished if a Linux based distro had the same advantage? I'm in the early stages of researching just such a company. It's been tried before and didn't work (Linuxware, Linux Hardware, Inc. to name two). The economics of the OSS way of thinking and commercial endeavors don't necessarily mesh well. We'll be setting up some infrastructure around community involvement and feedback, however I'd be interested in any initial feedback you all have. I'm thinking that the OS would remain fully open source (GPL) and we'd license the hardware specs in the same way. Then we could release laptops & desktops that truly have an advantage. The company would couple a solid Linux distro with it's own tweaks (polish & branding & such) coupled with our own hardware. I suspect that instead of waiting for the current HW vendors to release new hardware and then quickly figure out how to interface with it we can put effort into polish and functionality and quickly become the trend setters for MS and Apple to follow. In many cases, if the HW vendors would just release the damned specs to the OSS community, we wouldn't have to reverse-engineer so much stuff. As it stands now, we have to get some other OS that does talk to it, then instrument that and plow through the findings to figure out how to talk to the hardware. Open specs would allow the OSS groups to get started right away without all that rigmarole. There are some vendors (such as nVidia and Intel) that do pretty actively support OSS. I wish the others would. Most peripheral HW vendors (but by no means all) hamstring OSS by only sharing their docs with the "big boys". Part of that is that they aren't likely to realize an immediate return on their investment, but a large part of it is they don't want to have to support fourteen-gazillion derivative operating systems. I've been there and logistically it's a bloody nightmare. I applaud your efforts and hope you'll have better luck than we've seen in the past in such endeavors. Thanks, I think part of the issue is timing. I hope the timing is right, we're seeing a LOT of HW that caters to what the vendors want at the expense of what the end users are asking for That's my theory. I'll keep you posted -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigital ri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - Millihelen (n): The amount of beauty required to launch one ship. - -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Development question
Hi All; It seems to me that the "marriage" that Microsoft & Apple enjoy per hardware designed for their software gives them a huge advantage. I see that the Linux community is quite good at coming up with drivers, software, etc for hardware after the fact. I wonder, what could be accomplished if a Linux based distro had the same advantage? I'm in the early stages of researching just such a company. We'll be setting up some infrastructure around community involvement and feedback, however I'd be interested in any initial feedback you all have. I'm thinking that the OS would remain fully open source (GPL) and we'd license the hardware specs in the same way. Then we could release laptops & desktops that truly have an advantage. The company would couple a solid Linux distro with it's own tweaks (polish & branding & such) coupled with our own hardware. I suspect that instead of waiting for the current HW vendors to release new hardware and then quickly figure out how to interface with it we can put effort into polish and functionality and quickly become the trend setters for MS and Apple to follow. Thoughts? Thanks in advance -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora on a Thinkpad W540
Unfortunately it's web order only... I can send it back if needed but some level of confidence before I pull the trigger would be nice... Thanks for the feedback On 2/7/14, 1:08 AM, poma wrote: Although the best way would be to download and burn a Live CD[1] of your choice, and then walk to the nearest store and try it yourself. Everything else is pure lottery. poma [1] http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/20/Live/x86_64/ http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/ http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/tasks?state=all&view=tree&method=livecd&order=-id -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Fedora on a Thinkpad W540
Hi All; I'm thinking about buying this beast: http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/w-series/w540/#techspecs With these specific options: Video Card: NVIDIA Quadro K1100M 2GB Internal drive: 128 GB Solid State Drive, Serial ATA3 Secondary Drive: 2nd 500GB HDD, 7200rpm with Bay Adapter Wireless: Intel Dual Band Wireless 7260AC with Bluetooth 4.0 Any Ideas if Fedora will run/is compatible with the above? Thanks in advance... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Hi Res Screen help
Hi All; I've installed Fedora 20 on a Dell XPS 15 with a 3200x1800 screen It works well but I need a magnifying glass to see the text. I tried going into system settings for KDE and setting the default dpi which sort of works for appps but I still have a teeny tiny start menu and taskbar (and login screen) If I set the screen resolution to something less than the 3200x1800 I get black lines on the sides... The laptop has an Nvidia graphics card, any thoughts on how to fix this? Thanks in advance -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Possible OT question
Hi All; Our company is hosting an upcoming "Open Data Summit" conference (opendatasummit.com) I've posted to a few relevant mailing lists, such as the PostgreSQL Announce list. Before I post here and potentially step over a line that I shouldn't I wanted to pose the question, would it be ok/appropriate for me to post a "call for speakers" announcement here? or is this simply too far off topic? Thanks in advance /Kevin -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Fedora 20 install - can I revert to the old installer?
Hi All; Is there a way to install Fedora 20 and force it to use the old installer, which gave me more control per installing multiple GUI's, etc? Thanks in advance -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org